(SAD) HIDDEN SLAVE CEMETERY IN GEORGIA | PART 1
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- A return trip to the Mahone and Ingram slave and descendants cemetery to further document this lost and abandoned cemetery. First up on this video is another Mosaic Templars of America headstone. Part 1, don't miss new discoveries in part 2.
A lot of history here... an amazing forgotten cemetery. We uncovered so many forgotten graves on this trip. Glad I finally make it back.
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Hi Robert, I noriced that one of the marked areas you were looking at was almost completely covered by what appeared to be boxwood shrub or something like it. The graves I found on my parent's property as a child were marked in the same way. The headstones were crude but we discovered that the shrubs enclosed the entire area. This was a common way to mark graves in lots of Europe including England, so I wonder if the family used it to mark where their loved one was. Thank you Robert, Robert and Cody for knowing that slaves and their graves are just as important as the large tombs that house the rich. We all belong to Mother Earth and are precious in God's sight.
Thanks for the video, you guys should put up bright orange signs in these cemeteries. So folks like that hunter are aware they are using a cemetery for this purpose. Plus after reading georgian law once you remark a cemetery it will be preserved.
@MoonChild just guessing here my friend, but I could hear and see high winds and rain during this video plus a local gun range was firing away at targets. I could hear them fine but the audio was hampered by the weather and gun range activity without question.
Robert, was their a plantation close to where that cemetery? Or what would be left of one
@@shannahuffman4655 I've no idea what Robert found but the lay of the land there says that there was farmland all over the place! Usually that means plantation, sharecroppers or both at some point.
Makes you wonder how many times we walk through a wooded area and didn't know Fieldstone were Graves just astounding
I was just thinking the same thing. I have explored old homesteads so probably a few unknown or forgotten cemeteries as well. Robert's videos are so educational; I will explore with more awareness next time.
Not always but most of the time, the folks burying their loved one will stand a slab stone upright, turn a large stone with a smooth surfaced side up or turn a stone where, even now, it is obviously in an unusual direction that it wouldn't have formed or broken off that way. If that stone has a sunken area attached or close to it, it's probably an old grave. Stones can be covered but don't tend to sink in Georgia because the clay is just too dense. If the stones are scattered and break apart easily, that is shale or slate rock which naturally breaks off into sheets but is too brittle to use as a marker. Quartz, granite and marble, all once plentiful in north Georgia will break into shapes but if you see rub marks, drawn lines or semi circular indentions in these stones then people shaped them at some point in time. Alot of poor family plots in the mountains took pieces of the stone that were blown apart by TVA or road crews to use as head and foot stones too.
I wonder the same thing I live in Beaufort SC and it seems all the land was different plantations but where are the slave graves? Its sad.
An old church in Great Smokey Mt Nat. Park has field stone grave markers at Smokemont.
@@janetprice85 most of the graves before TVA went through the Smokies are marked that way. The families may make indentions in the stone with tools or write on them but most families know exactly where each of their kinfolk are buried! We in the city should have such excellent memorization abilities!
I found Josie Copeland in the census and she had a daughter Loula who married a Hamler. (I think that was one of the headstones that you found before finding Josie's) She was living with the Hamlers at the time of her death. I just found a descendant of Josie who has her in their family tree. I have sent her a message and that you have made a video where her ancestor is shown. Hopefully she will reply and find this video. I really admire what you guys are doing. Your work might eventually preserve some of these historic gravesites.
That is awesome!! And thank you so much!
Angela that is so wonderful... I hope you hear back from her.
My feelings exactly it's a shame it might be nice to find some family members to take care of the graves
Very cool that you would take the time to find someone else's family! I hope they answer and are delighted that you did this. I would be!
@@nancyholcombe8030 Thank you so much! I consider it way to give to the genealogy community. I hope that I get a reply.
Very sad that the Plantation owners couldn't at least provide a simple stone with a name and date. At least give them some dignity in death since they had none in life
If the slave owners gave the slave "dignity" of any kind they would have to view them other than monetary value. People in the slave trade of any kind did not act toward the black man that would cause them to question the sinfulness of slavery.
Slaves weren't considered humans
Something people don’t understand all plantation owners didn’t own the slaves. Land owners owed most of the money to the politicians that owned the slaves.
You expect a Slaveowner to care about someone's dignity ? lol 🤡
How does one become a plantation owner without being a land owner! The plantation was land, and they used slaves to farm the land.
Hooray for Sidestep Adventures!! All these lost souls, and you're the only ones bringing this forward. THANK YOU. 🎃☠️🕸️🕷️
They aren't lost at all.
Forrest or Forrester in your tree?
@@susanwilliford4067 Forrest....
@@robertforrest7956 tracking mine, we had a bunch of Forrester
It's sad that somehow some kind of protection for the property could be marked by a Historical Marker...😢🇺🇸
I live in Marietta ga, and I know where a few hidden grave sites are just in the cobb county/ cherokee county area. Georgia is covered in these old cemeteries. Fascinating really, and in many cases, sad too.
Hi from Georgia bartow county
Hello from lee county Georgia. 🖑
Baker Cook was an African-American. Son of Mondy and Ercy Cook. He lived in Talbot County, Georgia in 1880, Milners Cross Roads, Harris County, Georgia in 1910, and Rough Edge, Talbot County, Georgia in 1920.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail, and shape of the stone I knew what it was! BTW the Museum for the Mosaic Templars (pronounced mo-ZAY-ick) and the site of the founding of the group is in Little Rock Arkansas. They have an amazing history! The organization was actually established in 1884 when they got their charter from the state of Arkansas. It was for men and women alike, not a women's organization. They lasted until the years of the depression. People joined it all over the country.
As literacy grew many people actually did know their ages. In this case Jennie was born 30 years after slavery. Most likely her entire family may have had burial policies with Mosaic Templars. (I am originally from Arkansas, which is why I know a little bit about the Mosaic Templars. Her birth year may have been off, but clearly she was not born a slave because the Mosaic Templars was created almost 20 years after slavery ended. Some of the early burials were of people who had been born into slavery, but as years passed, younger members joined as their families had become members of this society.
But note---these stones usually belonged to people who through much work, had worked themselves into a degree of financial stability to afford membership in this benevolent burial society. Not necessarily were they people of "wealth", but who were stable hardworking people who had worked to insure certain benefits for their families.
I am always excited to see such stones which meant that there was also a chapter in that local area in the early 1900s.
Here is more info on the Mosaic Templars: www.mosaictemplarscenter.com/
Thanks for the great info... I did not know details of the MTA stones until I filmed that cemetery over in Alabama a while back - but had seen them before in the case of this one and also Samantha Street.... if you haven’t seen the one on Samantha Street yet I’ll send you the link. It is one of my favorite places - maybe because I got to “know” Samantha’s life story unlike so many places I find.
I also did not know it was for men and women...
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Angela,
Samantha Street and Jennie Horton have not been documented in the MTA members database. Do you know how to get them added? Thanks.
@@rsstrickland9554 I shall find out for you. I have close friends in Little Rock who may be able to assist.
So sad to see field stones marking the graves of so many who toiled under the domination of slavery. Each one marks a life's story. I wish you could tell us more about them. Keep up the good work.
@@laurab1089 The enslaved individuals had no choice in their lives. They didn't toil to build their future. Many of them had their families taken from them and sold. Their existence was anonymous, and marking their grave sites with field stones seems like the final injustice.
Fieldstones were very common. Not all areas had the proper stone masons to create beautiful tombstones and some people were too poor. There are plenty of homemade stones as well. Fieldstone markers are not limited to just black people or poor people. After the Civil War a lot of people lost everything and could've lived in a place where everything was burned down. Formerly wealthy people were buried with only a pile of rocks to mark their graves or field stones.
my wife was years ago in georgie and still saw signs said; white only..so very sad.
I have so much respect for you in bringing light to these forgotten cemeteries & graves, love the work you are & have done for the people of all races. I pray that ones watching will take from what they learn from you & in their states & counties carry on your example. I like the mention of lillies, I think these are irises, my great grandmother who pasted away at the age 102, called these Flags, it's a very old southern name for them. Please continue your work & God Bless You
My grandmother called them flags too.😊
Corena Jones I agree, those are irises. I have them here in Indiana, they spread like crazy.
If the Tree's could talk!
Oh wow! I just learned several new things. I had no idea there was an organization like that for former slaves, which is important. It gives one more piece of information that leads to a better understanding of the time and place, which is something I truly want to understand.
Mam, a lot of black history has been covered up n deleted from the books, especially positive things.... U have 2 continue research 2 discover it.... Marsha.
Leaves of three, let it be.😃
To think the only ones to see that cemetery were deer and a hunter and the hunter was more interested in the deer to even report the cemetery to a church.
I heard the hunters in the background since you all are going into the woods at hunting season you all should were a yellow vest so they can see you better.
Blaze Orange is what people need to wear during hunting/killing season.
Thank you for letting people know about this history.
Loved this first part and yes very sad . Who knows how many are really there? waiting for part 2 Thankyou for sharing it with us
Robert, you have so much respect for the people buried there. Even pointing out indentations in the ground, you are acknowledging the people buried there. We don't know who they are but God knows their souls and treasures each one.
What a blessing you are!
Amen to your words.... well said . God knows ALL THOSE SOULS and wipes all their tears. Hold them tight Heavenly Father🙏
Your videos everywhere today.. loving it. Thanks for video Sir Robert.Stay safe
You should write a book and publish all your photos!
I wonder if the various pieces used as headstones could be ones that may have been broken before ever being used and “scraped” and they were allowed to use them to make the graves? 🤔
Yes exactly. There was a video that should’ve gone up before this one explaining that at another site. Oops.
It's such a shame that these graves have been neglected for soo many years
This information is so helpful for our african americans as far as their genealogy research. To have a name and stone where they could visit would be amazing for them. Thank you for doing this. Awesome stuff. I hope a descendant can find this.
My family is from Southwest Nebraska and there is a tradition of taking treasured Irises from the garden and transplanting them around a person's grave. My grandmother and great-grandmother both have Irises from their own gardens planted around their graves.
I think those lilies might be irises.
I think you are right. Iris.
I agree they are irises
I thought swamp lilies but now I think you're right!
Robert,
I just finished reading many of the replies and it's heartening to find people whose ancestors were discovered by you.
Your site is so diverse, not only cemeteries but historical and not so historical but fascinating locations.
Well done,
Cheers,
Frederick "Rik" Spector
I have ancestors lost forever by the holocaust in Germany, but
even without graves their heritage and these poor peoples heritages will live on with the help of people like you.
You guys are such blessings and a true wonder to watch!
iam from the netherlands and watch it every day..thank you robert and your friends..i learn so much and great to watch..keep doing it!
Thanks for your respect and concern over these long forgotten graves and yes these black lives mattered.
Unfortunately, not according to the BLM movement, since only certain Black Lives Matter to them. I believe that every single life should matter, when they are deceased, colored or not.
Love how you say enslaved & not slaves . Thank you
All those unnamed people, so sad. Good video, Robert
We’re just curious how the 2 Roberts got to know each other. Different generations and similar interests
So sad to see this...I always want to go to these places and clean up
With age comes wisdom, especially when it comes to Poison Ivy... 😬
It does not take long for nature to take over
Karen has a point how many unknown graves have we walked over As always Robert thank you so much for this video
👍Good stuff! Glad I found your channels. Side note; I personally can visualize poison ivy, oak, sumach & it’s oils cling to me w/ instant break-out! I’m an ol KY boy that loves the woods but sure can’t handle the “leaves of three”!
Thx for the videos!
This video was very touching. Keep up the great work! Btw,young Robert looks like he gives great hugs!
Yes, I agree!😊
Those "lilies" are actually IRIS! The big shrub with the base in the middle of it is boxwood, a very slow-growing ornamental shrub that frequently were planted around fine homes in the South.
My grandmother was a Horton. This was so cool to see these cemeteries. Good job!
Was there a Huge Plantation near the graves or a Church??
I wish the Plantation was still there!!
Yes - the plantation. All gone now. Not too close to the grave site though.
You're doing a fantastic job but I wonder if you record the graves you find like on Find A Grave?
Thank you Robert for educating us on these poor men and women who where never recognized for all their hard work. The respect you show while walking through the cemetary with your crew is amazing. Thank you and God bless you!
Leaves of three let them be!
Leaves of three , do not touch
Three leaves shiney not for the hiney
@@marybailey-gates3116 🤣
is that gun shots near ya'll ?
Or thunder? Looks overcast there.
No. You are right, it has to be gun shots.
Sound of freedom... just folks n family target shooting ;)
It's deer season in Va so I am assuming it is in Ga. That sounds more like target shooting.
Yes
Gladly watching all the ads in the video so you can receive your TH-cam money. That's the least I can do is not skip ads. Thank you for your care of our departed ❤
Thank you for honoring ALL our ancestors so respectfully!!
Hallo guys great video thank you much love from Croatia
First awesome video sir
Great video. I believe this is the Shippy cemetery.
How come the black churches don't take care of these old cemeteries?
why don't the slave owners ancestors take care of them ?
I wonder how many ancestors even know the graves are there? Wouldn't it be amazing to find out you have ancestors buried in some forgotten graveyard? I'd love it! I'd be investigating, for sure.
It's govt property. They should be the ones taking care of it.
@@cynthiagraham6890 LOL, bc 800,000 or more WHITE AMERICAN MEN fought and died to give slaves freedom and rights! Us white folks have given way, way too much to coloreds already, and y’all just need to really stop with the victim hood mentality and start working for things yourselves! And honestly, who cares about their graves??? Nobody is going to give a dang and they will be forgotten.. so get over it!!!
So sad to know that these are unmarked.
Really enjoyed this video. Please hurry with part 2. I even read every comment & the information & stories were awesome
It's a shame that only those with wealth could afford engraved markers. There are so many wonderful people that have been completely forgotten because no marker bearing their name was left for them.
Wonderful work gentlemen. This video is fascinating. We really need to remember these people💜😊
To give these people recognition is a godsend thank u not forgotten
Excellent work today
Well done!
This is awesome that you found this cemetery. I also find it interesting when older folks die on their birthday.
Great Video! It is very interesting that there are some very old Boxwood plantings that have gone wild. It's a "highend" plant.
Am very intrigued by the re-cycled stones Looking forward to the next chapter.
Wonderful camera work. Also, sounded like a shooting range?
The green plants that are scattered around the cemetery look like iris to me, though I've never seen iris spread like that. I also thought I saw daylilies at one point. The big overgrown green shrubs look like boxwood, though it's possible they are some sort of ornamental holly. Boxwoods have a distinctive smell, making them easy to ID. Anyway that's another really interesting cemetery. I really enjoy your adventures.
thank you so juch...sir....atl ga....colored people of atlanta thk you...sincerely....happy fathers day...you rock!!!!
Nice job!! I love old graves and slave history. You managed both. But why the war zone in background?
You’ve used the term “false crypt” in this video. I’m unfamiliar with this term. Can you give me a brief explanation?!! LOVE your videos!
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Hi sidestep. I diidnt catch if this cemetery had a name...or what city it's in. I couldn't find a "find a grave" record for Mr cook (Baker Cook died 1/7/1933) and it's be nice to create one. Does this cemetery have a name?
Any fans find Mr Cook's find-a-grave?
My 2nd ggma was Sarah Horton Sizemore, born 1826 Habersham GA, and was possibly Metis, a term used for half native and half african, but the natives were often mistaken for african, so it is a blocked path for my ancestral search, only found a possibility of her father's name being Abraham.
Ashes to ashes,dust to dust. Those people are just bones now. My grandfather was burried in a box back in the 1950. There's a depression were his grave is. My dad told me that means the coffin has rotted and collapsed. And that's why concreat vaults were invented.
I can hear what sounds like booms or guns? going off in the background. Would be interested to know what it really was, it seemed like it just echoed through the forest as you guys were walking.Thanks for sharing and giving compassionate care to these forgotten places.
am I the only one finding beauty in the trees growing close or right by the unmarked graves and simple flagstone grave markers? It's like "Man didn't give you a proper tombstone, so God/Nature will give you a living one."
Poison Vine l can look at it and break out love your Adventures always appreciate all the hard work you put in to your videos and the History you keep alive
Did Any One Notice That Josie Copeland Passed On Her 20th Birthday?
Hey can you please check this abandon town off Highway 300 Oatfield ,Georgia a few building still standing. the church and cemetery near by is called Friendship baptist church & cemetery. Cordele has lots of historical town buildings would love to see inside of some if save to enter inside.
Glad at least one of you has a brightly colored hat or shirt as I hear gunshots in the background and you may wish to be seen. Having Work gloves and a bright color on is best. So nice you find all these old and neglected graves in forgotten cemeteries.
Down here in the south you can literally feel the souls of slavery the feeling is heavy it's a presence that you know is here all around us my family came from Selma,Al but migrated to Birmingham over the years we have family in Montgomery and mobile ,Al too btw I'm African American Male and I will forever feel indebted to my ancestors and all they've been thru no capp
The used pieces to mark the graves could be rubble pieces from the stone Mason. It could be pieces that didn't work out or pieces that broke during production. The pieces may have been thrown out and / or given to the families.
My grandmother told me that when slaves had funerals, they were always buried at dusk. Any feedback ?
I would have taken that snuff jar!! I understand wanting to be respectful, but here is no indication it had anything to do with the people buried there or that it was intentionally left there. It could have been dropped by anyone over the years, wouldn't an empty snuff jar have been considered trash? It's possible a loved one could have placed it on a grave as a memorial for some reason, but it didn't seem to be close to a marked grave or fieldstone and it's dangerous to leave glass out randomly in the woods. If it breaks it will pose a hazard for wildlife and other people who may eventually wander through. And I think it would be better to have it in a museum or something where it could be seen and appreciated. Great video, tho...i love what you all do!!
Robert Wrightbw careful when yo agravate the other Robert it may come back to haunt you! Yeah and I'd be aggravating the R. Wright. You all work hard but can have fun!
I NEVER had a reaction to poison ivy until I was in my 50s . I know I came in contact with it in the past. One day it could catch up with you. Just saying.
Probably will but until then.....
I waded through the stuff as a kid but never had a reaction til in my 20's and boy howdy I had a good case of poison ivy then.
My family were very poor. My great great grandparents graves were marked with a cedar tree at the head of the grave. They now have headstones.
Emily...it took me almost 25 years to get headstones for my parents and sister...
I'm so glad you covered this!
Thank you very much I wish there was headstones but I know why.
I know this is history and my heart hates to see this but my son and I watched the video and he had alot of questions. He was also upset which was understandable. We had a long talk after this. Again thank you for helping homeschool my son.
I wish someone could bring maybe some white crosses or american flags to mark the graves ... Wishful thinking I guess.
I had avoided watching any of the slave cemetery videos until now... those poor people...I don't want to imagine what they must have gone through... may they all rest in peace...
Gov. Stephen Heard grave, Elbert County, Ga. Captured by British and escaped in a cotton basket full of dirty clothes carried by a slave woman who is buried nearby. Ol' Dan Tucker grave not far from here.
I had to Google this for myself! I just couldn't believe! Thank you for such unusual fact!👏👍
I always think of Cemeteries as peaceful places. This one with unmarked graves I find very lonely, very sad. 🌷🌷🌷
Thank you for this video. I am a Mahone from Talbot and Waverly Hall. Which area of Talbot is this? I noticed the road in the video.
I have enjoyed this very much thank you both God bless you 🙏❤️
Most of the time the slaves buried the slaves. They could not read or write, maybe thats why they were not marked. The plantation owners didn't think the slaves had souls so they didn't think they needed a marker. Sad time in our history, but part of our history.
Do you plan on recording the names of the people you found? It would be of great service to those families.
Do you think Robert you could organise a group of people to paint white crosses so that you can put them with the field stones to honour the people and show all very clearly that where you are is a place of rest??
Another great video! Thank you!
All the loudmouth do nothing “ community leaders “ need to see this , put your money where your mouth is and clean and honor this place . These are actual slave graves , clean it up !!!!
Great vlog Robert & Robert. Very fascinating. I just came back from a trip in northern mich. While my sister and i were there we stopped at a cemetery. It was still used and taken care of but i found a very old stone marked 1855. Almost unreadable but i took a pic and studied it. The woman who was buried there has my 1st & 2nd name & died at the age of 65. Scary thing about it I'll be 65 in january. Make me wonder. 🚙🔎😱🔦 it was an amazing trip alot of old history in that cemetery. Be safe
Hi Robert. Good one! Those plants you found are not lily's but iris. I bet they are really old. Iris rhizomes have a tendency to move on there own lol. They are like potato or peanut plants. I have dug some up and planted them at home. It's really cool to see what colors they were. Most are in the shade at cemetery's but once put in the sun (as they originally were) they do really well. No worries about where you take them from. Just be sure to leave some so they can continue to spread naturally.
Love your videos. Thank you thank you for the adventures.
God bless you, I am speechless.God bless all the souls who died during slavery, not just the south, but north and Canada, as dark Americans we couldn't begin to anyone how many of our ancestors died during the period of slavery, now that's sad.
Once these cemeteries are discovered does anyone try to make it protected land. Their struggle was hard enough but no decent burial or respect for how many hey rest. Smh
Just exactly what do you do after this?
Great video, really enjoy watching you find the graves and the added history you include. Look forward to part 2 of this one. Great teamwork and thanks for taking us along !!!
The foot stones with initials on them should be near the headstones. They probably could not afford the larger stone.
If the first word in the title is sad, that’s pretty off-putting, and I don’t think I’ll watch it.
So sad these graves are covered up. Forgotten until now. Thank you for posting again.
I'm thinking that the indentations in the erath where the graves are at is because the person may have been buried in a woodbox and the box caved in after the wood decayed and caved in from the weight of the earth above it.
There must have been a monument company nearby and they were given the broken or discarded pieces. So sad...❤
Thank you for recording them.