Sunderland was there and Monmouth did accuse him, at least according to several of the Duke's biographers. Sunderland reputedly replied (or words to this effect): "If that is all the Duke can do to save his life, it will do him little good!" Apparently during the Exclusion Crisis of 1679 - 81, Sunderland, ever the pragmatist/opportunist, had offered Monmouth his services if the future James II was excluded from the throne or if Monmouth was successful in his attempted rebellion. By 1685, Monmouth seems to have been desperate enough to have taken Sunderland at his word, and he might have launched his Rebellion on the supposition the Earl would have joined him at the most opportune moment. It didn't happen as King James had done nothing to alienate his subjects at this stage in his reign. Monmouth might have done better to wait, but his finances were too questionable to delay his uprising, so he invaded, was soundly defeated and executed...James II was turfed out by his nephew/son-in-law, William of Orange some three years later.
In three years James II would run away like a little girl.
I know this meeting really took place but was Sunderland really there and did Momouth accuse him?
I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised; Monmouth seems to have been grasping at any possibility of survival.
Sunderland was there and Monmouth did accuse him, at least according to several of the Duke's biographers. Sunderland reputedly replied (or words to this effect): "If that is all the Duke can do to save his life, it will do him little good!" Apparently during the Exclusion Crisis of 1679 - 81, Sunderland, ever the pragmatist/opportunist, had offered Monmouth his services if the future James II was excluded from the throne or if Monmouth was successful in his attempted rebellion. By 1685, Monmouth seems to have been desperate enough to have taken Sunderland at his word, and he might have launched his Rebellion on the supposition the Earl would have joined him at the most opportune moment. It didn't happen as King James had done nothing to alienate his subjects at this stage in his reign. Monmouth might have done better to wait, but his finances were too questionable to delay his uprising, so he invaded, was soundly defeated and executed...James II was turfed out by his nephew/son-in-law, William of Orange some three years later.
James II would be subsequently tossed out in the Glorious Revolution of 1683.
1688
@@edwardtodd9734 Those time-travelling Dutch!
The Queen was Italian and would have had an Italian accent.
Very likely she would have.