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I was just about to type that too. Oregon is labeled correctly though. No idea how a mistake like that gets made, but my guess is someone was copying text and forgot to change it for TN.
Actually in the 70s, 80s and 90s all the way until mid 2000s, West Virginia voted mostly Democrat while Virginia voted mostly Republican. Until they shifted again in 2008
Right, it's a bit of a misleading statement that adds to the narratives common in PragerU videos which tries to paint the contemporary Republican party as being essentially the same as the Republican party of Lincoln. Otherwise, a quality video.
@DMBisAwesome well it is true that West Virginia was established by anti-slavery Republicans in 1860s. But after WW2, party demographics shifted so that West Virginia will be voting mostly democrat by the rest of the century until very recently
Believe me it was all politics..it wasn't like a line crossed In the state were folks had different morals . And thousands of Virginias in western Virginia now West Virginia still fought for the Confederate's and a lot of rouge Confederate gorilla soldiers and way more than they want to teach in West Virginia history at school. Idk were you live but I live in West Virginia and you still see confederate flags everywhere it's not uncommon at all especially out in the sticks . The politics came most in northern West Virginia were at the time the capital was . West Virginia definitely had quite a few slaves
As a native West Virginian it is worth noting that West Virginia was admitted to the union as a slave state with the provision that it would abolish slavery in the near future. Also to hear non-West Virginians trying to pronounce Kanawha is always good for a laugh. Your attempt at pronouncing it was laughable.
East Tennesseans, led by Unionist leaders like Andrew Johnson and William G. 'Parson' Brownlow, attempted to separate from Tennessee and even sent representatives to the federal government to gain support for their cause. They wanted to form a separate, Union-aligned state, similar to what West Virginia would eventually achieve. However, Tennessee's state government, which was controlled by Confederate sympathizers, quickly suppressed this movement and then imposed martial law to prevent any organized rebellion.
While I understand the many reasons why they broke in 2, doesn’t the U.S. constitution specifically forbid the formation of a new state out of an existing state? So possibly, the formation of West Virginia was unconstitutional. Yes, it happened during the Civil War, with both areas having different allegiances and ideologies, but the SCOTUS could have ordered them back together again when the war ended.
@ Thing is though, I don’t think either Virginia is too keen on any notion of reunification, not in 1865 or even now. Too many differences and circumstances. Two different societies. I’ve heard before that they were always two different states living under one roof before 1863. Somehow, I don’t think a forced re-marriage is viable, no matter how unconstitutional it was during the Civil War. All that did was give them a window of opportunity to get their own statehood,something they’ve wanted for years.
@@VideoHitz2023 First they founded the prounionist Virginia government and West Virginia got permission from the prounionist Virginia to found a new State. The prunionist Virginia capital was Alexandria. Interesting law idea was.
@ I’ve heard it said that the split between the two Virginias was a divorce that was a long time coming. They just couldn’t agree on anything, they were too different, and so parted their separate ways.
YES!👍 I wrote a history paper at county college on this clearly basic topic for which, I believe, I easily made a compelling case that West Virginia’s formation was unconstitutional. Other commenters here are saying ‘it was a divorce that was going to happen anyway’, ‘reuniting them would have been too difficult’, etc. Those concerns are besides the point. It was simply a matter of convenience and benefit to keep the two states separate but it was in no way constitutionally decided.
The Blue Ridge Mountains are a physiographic province of the larger Appalachian Highlands range. The mountain range is located in the Eastern United States and extends 550 miles southwest from southern Pennsylvania through Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia.[1 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ridge_Mountains
Yes, indeed, this video is flawed. The winners write the history. I'm from West Virginia, and many West Virginia counties were stolen. Fake news and government corruption is not new.
@@MarqBarq West Virginia was planned smaller with big % prounionist population, but during the Civil war West Virginia got a lot of proconfederate counties: Greenbrier, Pocahontas, Mercer, Pendleton, Wyoming, Monroe, Jefferson, etc, so the USA Army and Confederate Army soldier numbers were near equal. The original Ohio valley Kanewha state (later centre of nowdays West Virginia) was solid prounionist majority.
@@MarqBarq In the East Pendhandle Morgan county was strong prounionist. Berkley was about 50-50%, Jefferson county was proconfederate majority. East Penhandly was united to West Virginia for the Baltimore & Ohio railroad. Interesting Loudon county was prounionist in Virginia, but it was not united to West Virginia. Some counties in South West (East) Virginia had a few prounist minorities (red strings and Heroes of America) same to the Shenandoa valley.
Williamsburg was the first capital of Virginia and the governor’s palace is still there. They moved the capital to Richmond after the attack on Yorktown
Almost Heaven, West Virginia Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River Life is old there, older than the trees Younger than the mountains, growin' like a breeze Country roads, take me home To the place I belong West Virginia, mountain mama Take me home, country roads All my memories gather 'round her Miner's lady, stranger to blue water Dark and dusty, painted on the sky Misty taste of moonshine, teardrop in my eye Country roads, take me home To the place I belong West Virginia, mountain mama Take me home, country roads I hear her voice in the mornin' hour, she calls me The radio reminds me of my home far away Drivin' down the road, I get a feelin' That I should've been home yesterday, yesterday Country roads, take me home To the place I belong West Virginia, mountain mama Take me home, country roads Country roads, take me home To the place I belong West Virginia, mountain mama Take me home, country roads Take me home, (down) country roads Take me home, (down) country roads
I’m so proud of this channel, they finally filled in Oklahoma as a confederate state… Chattel slavery in Indian territory, proved that they also wanted to be part of the confederacy, even though there were union holdings in the state😬
And why were the 2 Eastern Counties so important to be part of West Virginia and the Union? Because the Baltimore & Ohio RR runs through those counties and the Feds wanted control of that railroad.
If somebody looks at the 1860 USA map, she or he will detect the Wheeling penhandle in Virginia, which cuts to almost 2 parts of the North. I think Stephen Douglas looked at the map. The Northern USA was an unviable country. If the North had accepted the Seccession the North would have become 3 countries, as Pacific, Midwest and the East in 25 years. So the War was the only possibility, Stephen Douglas critizied Lincokn for the only 75 000 volounters, because Stephen Douglas would have asked for 200 000 volounters. Luckily the silly Southern politicians wanted to accelerated the seccession with Fort Sumter that the border states could join the Confederacy. West Virgina had long lasting problem with the plantation (East) Virginia (West Virginia had 4.6% slaves and the (East) Virginia had 38.7% slaves), so the State seccession got good support from the North. Lincoln hesitated a little to sign West Virginia state decision, but if I remember well Lincoln would have said something this: " Virginia secceded from the USA so the West Virginia could separate also. BTW the 13th Amendments was made similar law inven in 31 January 1865. The Northern States could say the 11 slave holding states were 11 TRAITOR states so they lost the veto possibilities. The 75% states were for the whole USA abolution. Without the seccession the 75% states were not for any WHOLE USA ABOLUTION Amendment of the Constitution. Virginia was TRAITOR STATE, so any veto against West Virginia foundation was lost. West Virginia, Contraband slaves (general Butler), Emancipation and the ALL SLAVES ABOLUTION according to 13th Amendment of the Constitution originated from the VETO POSSIBILITY LOST of THE TRAITOR STATES! Funny the Republicans and Lincoln thought the whole Country abolution Amendment of the Constitution about 1920 (XXth Century) because the 75 % free states majority would have been that time!
As my mother language is Spanish, i am bot sure if i get this correct. Does the last 20 seconds of the video mean that the current republican party is the antislavery, whereas the confederacy would be the current democrat party ideas?
yes. The current republican party is the same party of lincoln, where as the democratic party of today was the same party that suceeded from the union.
The Shenandoah River and the Blue Ridge Mountains do both run through Jefferson County in the eastern panhandle. So while they are barely in West Virginia, they are however there.
Actually, Virginia was the first fully established English colony. Other Europeans like the Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch already had New World colonies by that time.
Its like asking why Davao break-up into 5 small provinces or why Cotabato divided into 7 mini Provinces and counting of Mindanao island in the Philippines.
Abe Lincoln wasn't against slavery, Maryland and even points north had slaves, he was fine with them. And he never forced West Virginia to abolish slavery as the terms of joining as a new state. He only made abolition an issue under pressure from abolitionist politicians in his party and as a war measure. From the beginning he wanted to prevent slavery from spreading to new territories, which angered the south because that would make the north and free states more powerful than them in Congress. Abe Lincoln also never believed in equality either.
I like your videos but you really need a proofreader. In this video you reversed East and West on the graphic, misspelled secession, labeled Tennessee as Oregon, etc. On a previous video you misspelled Shreveport, etc. Makes me question the accuracy of your research if you can't spell the things you researched.
From what I understand, in 1861 mountain parts of Alabama and Tennessee wanted and trayed to break away from those states and stay with the union but failed.
Yeah that’s never gonna happen. Virginia is a slightly blue leaning state, West Virginia is one of the deepest red states in the country. That’ll turn giant Virginia into a deep red state.
So im an ACTUAL historian, and im here to tell you how incorrect/inaccurate the video is... The Civil War was NOT about slavery (not at first, until the emancipation proclamation was issued in 1863 and that was also ONLY a political move because Britain was about to join the war on the side of the confederacy)... The South wanted to become independent because of the same rural vs. urbanization issues mentioned in this very video that explains the split between the 2 Virginias... but also because the government was deliberately passing policies that favored the north and urban areas at the expense of the rural areas of the south. Also, most federal government funding and investment/infrastructure went to northern states and not southern ones... Furthermore, Lincoln HIMSELF said that the war was NOT about slavery but to "preserve the union as it currently stands" president obama admitted that the emancipation proclamation was just a political ploy and not a legitimate or even legal document. The fact that Lincoln was in favor of cecession for WV while not allowing cecession for the confederacy was completely hypocritical and was only because it benefits his view. The constitution at the time DIDN'T say cecession was illegal NOR did it say slavery was unconstitutional, so his argument about "cecession against or in favor of the constitution are different" is not valid at all legally speaking. Speaking of Lincoln, the ACTUAL reason the confederacy ceceded was because Lincoln DIDN'T win the popular vote and was only elected because of the electoral college rules... furthermore, Lincoln WASN'T even on the ballot in most states and none of the southern states had him on ballots and yet he still won the election, so they legitimately and fairly believed the election was rigged (because it was). They said in their OFFICIAL (undoctored/uncensored)letter of cecession that "we cecede not because of the issue of slavery but only because the us government treated the south like an independent nation thats under occupation, so we may as well become independent and get rid of the occupation" but of course nobody ever talks about that. They also directly cited the fact that Lincoln won the election illegally because he wasn't actually on any official ballot History is ALWAYS written by the victors, and thus, they ALWAYS skew everything so they look like tne good guys and dismiss any counter arguments as "propaganda or false information " even if it WAS the truth. Everyone believes it was about slavery ONLY because they were raised that way and don't know better, and also because opposition to this view is considered "evil" just because anti slavery is the right thing to do, despite the fact that the truth is that slavery wasn't the reason why the war started it was to eliminate the states ability to govern themselves independently from the central federal government. So states rights WAS the actual reason after all... The reason why Fort sumter was attacked was because immediately after they declared independence, the union immediately invaded, thus starting the war and making attacking the fort valid... but nobody knows this because the government censored the fact that the union actually attacked first (and lost) they also changed the dates on documents to make it look like bull run happened after sumter but it ACTUALLY happened BEFORE it... according to uncensored documents from Britain and outside the US... the south DID agree to not cecede if a recount was done or Lincoln was removed from office because, again, they viewed, rightfully, that he had won illegally because his name wasn't an official candidate nor was he on the OFFICIAL election ballot... his was one of the names written on the extra line that just so happened to get the nomination from the official republican party (only because they were brand new and had no other options for nominees)... everything is true that I've said and i can provide unbiased sources from first hand primary sources from the time period that prove it, and if you don't know that this is all true, then you and your team are NOT REAL researchers or historians, or you are bribed to not discuss it out of fear that your channel will lose viewers or future funding... I don't mean to be so harsh, but i care so much about UNCENSORED/UNBIASED history and about TRUTH that i have to call out the channel for false information if i see it (It's not my fault im better at researching than your team is). Just because everyone says it was because of slavery DOESN'T make it true. It just means they are too afraid to speak the truth because they might get attacked or ostracized for speaking the truth... or it's all about views and funding or looking good in public to "save face" or reputation. ANY real unbiased researcher will tell you exactly what i just said, if they don't its because they either have an agenda or believe the false agenda because they don't know better or use "piggyback" research done by others who have agendas or otherwise benefit from censorship... please do more research before you post videos. Some are great, but most are under researched, and i don't allow "not enough time to research" or "the videos are supposed to be short and theres no room for that information" as a excuses... just postpone the release of videos until you have the proper research done and make them longer to make sure all points are covered...i guarantee you that people will understand, and your channel will improve and grow as a result... otherwise, if you continue to be biased, i will unsubcribe and tell others to do the same on the grounds of inaccurate information being spread.
I think an old reddit user summed it up best for me years ago: The study of the primary cause of the U.S. Civil War goes in three parts: 1. The primary cause of the U.S. Civil War was Slavery. 2. The primary cause of the U.S. Civil War was complex and was not all about Slavery. 3. The primary cause of the U.S. Civil War was Slavery. My advice to anyone who wants to know: go read the primary sources yourself and draw your own conclusions. And ignore literally every last word you read on the comments section of TH-cam. Lol. 😂🎉
There is a little bit of a leap at the end, West V was reliably a democratic state for a good part of the XX century and the opposite was true about VA. Their current partisanship is somewhat recent in historical terms
So the original West Virginia did not include 8 counties on the present Virginia border, but those were added later and were part of a disputed court case because those counties never participated in the vote to join West Virginia because they were controlled by the CSA. So they actually already took more than the realistically could have based on popularity.
West Virginia did not abolish slavery until 1865, in anticipation of the 13th Amendment. What the video is quoting as the abolition of slavery is, I think, the Willey Amendment, which would not have freed slaves until 1867, and provisioned for those under 10 to be freed once they turned 21 and those between the ages of 10-21 to be freed at 25. So that sentence was misleading.
Context needed on that last part about the political alignment. For many years the Democrats dominated West Virginia even after Virginia became more Republican in terms of its political Outlook especially in the 80s and 90s in fact West Virginia did not shift Republican until the Democrats begin their war on coal. Virginia on the other hand has turned a sickening shade of blue but for one reason and one reason only the immediate counties around the District of Columbia which has a lot of federal employees living there especially Fairfax and Loudoun counties the political environment in Virginia is a little more Rocky because the governor is only allowed one term and more recently because of other social issues such as critical race Theory the governor's mansion has gone back to the Republicans and even with Glenn Duncan limited to one term is Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears is a shoe-in for replacing him. Now back to West Virginia of course outgoing Senator Joe manchin had left the Democratic party but he still caucused with them he had been the previous governor of the state several years back when he appointed himself to take over the senate seat after the death of Robert Byrd certainly because of the war on coal the state had already been trending to the red column and a lot of that also accelerated him going independent butt of course the other Senator Shelley Moore Capito took over from Jay Rockefeller in many ways West Virginia is more like another area that used to be part of Virginia that broke away and that is Kentucky because likewise adversely affected by the war on coal both in the Eastern Mountain is part of the state as well as the Western coal fields and much like West Virginia Kentucky is a state that has been slow to embrace Republicans and has periodically in various offices backslid towards the Democrats name me the governor's mansion but it is also not the Democratic party of Happy Chandler anymore. But within my lifetime the governor's mansion both US Senate seats and congressional seat in my home District were all held by democrats end my home county Warren County home of Bowling Green third largest city in the state used to be 10 to 1 Democrat by registration. Now we're about 58% Republican in terms of registration but there's a saying was attributed I believe to Mark Twain and I've heard it said both about Kentucky or West Virginia saying that when the world ends I want to be in either of those because everything happens 20 years late....
West Virginia didn’t break away it was carved out of Virginia. This is against the Constitution which states that each State and the area that wants to become a new State must both agree on it.
West Virginia had only 4.6% slaves population. However the planned original smaller West Virginia (Kanawha state) had less slave population than 4.6% slaves. During the Civil War West Virginia got higher slaves populated (PROCONFEDERATE) counties at the East Virginia border. The Federal army occupied them during the Civil War. For example Jefferson 28.2% slaves, Greenbrier 12.7% slaves, Monroe with 10.5% slaves or Hardy 11.2% slaves. In the original smaller West Virgina would have been only the salt producer counties with higher % slaves, the Kanawha valley counties as Kanwha county with 13,7% slaves.
This last nap I’m looking at is little incomplete, although I have not watched the whole program yet because the territories of Arizona and Mexico were also part of the confederate United States, which all aligned with democrat ideals, which New Mexico still is a Democrat state while Arizona when it became a state became republicanArizona is one of the few states where you can stand in one location and see all the flags that flew over it throughout history the Spanish flag the French flag the Mexican flag the confederate flag the United States flag, and of course, Arizona territory and statehood flag
The first successful European settlement in the future USA territory was in Florida. The current States are including lands colonized by different European powers, not just by British
Was a thumbs up until: The deep red of Lincoln's Party. hahahaha and the Democratic Virginia. Knowledgia needs to do a video on the Republican Southern Strategy following the Civil Rights Movements and subsequent laws passed. Inset Lee Atwater quote>>>>>>>>>
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Can you do a video about the Carolinas or Delaware or Maryland
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🎵"West Virginia, mountain mama"🎶
lol I had this in my head during the whole video
🎵..take me home.., country road..🎵
great
It became a state for us to have the awesome song »Country Roads« 👍🏻
@alexandredaubricourt5741 sane here. Ive got a bad case of ear worm now.
Because West Virginians know what's right! Long Live The Republic!
West Virginia entered the Union as a slave state.
West Virginia was an operating slave state in the Union during the civil war. That certainly isn’t right.
It became a state for us to have the amazing song of »Country Roads« 👍🏻
I listen to.that every time I Play Fallout 76.
John D
Fact check: The blue ridge mtns & Shenandoah River are not in WV. ✌️
@Sk8Bettty so then the song is lying?
@ yes. John Denver lies every time that song plays lol The Ohio River is ours tho.
Why does the text on Tennessee say "OR"? Isn't that Oregon?
East Tenneessee wanted to secceedd from Tenneessee by 1861 (same to West Virgina), but the Confederate Army occupied East Tenneessee!
I was just about to type that too. Oregon is labeled correctly though. No idea how a mistake like that gets made, but my guess is someone was copying text and forgot to change it for TN.
@@avenaoatI lived in Elizabethton a few yrs. Wasn’t it part of Franklin? I forget. Beautiful place.
Actually in the 70s, 80s and 90s all the way until mid 2000s, West Virginia voted mostly Democrat while Virginia voted mostly Republican. Until they shifted again in 2008
Right, it's a bit of a misleading statement that adds to the narratives common in PragerU videos which tries to paint the contemporary Republican party as being essentially the same as the Republican party of Lincoln. Otherwise, a quality video.
@DMBisAwesome well it is true that West Virginia was established by anti-slavery Republicans in 1860s. But after WW2, party demographics shifted so that West Virginia will be voting mostly democrat by the rest of the century until very recently
As someone from West Virginia that married a Virginian I love the video. Keep it up.
Very good video
Captivating 👍
Mountain folk don`t hold with slavery.
West Virginia entered the Union as a slave state.
West Virginia still has slavery while being in the Union during the civil war. They certainly held it then.
Then why was West Virginia admitted to the Union in June of 1863 as a slave state six months after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation?
West Virginia was admitted to the Union as a SLAVE state!
Believe me it was all politics..it wasn't like a line crossed In the state were folks had different morals . And thousands of Virginias in western Virginia now West Virginia still fought for the Confederate's and a lot of rouge Confederate gorilla soldiers and way more than they want to teach in West Virginia history at school. Idk were you live but I live in West Virginia and you still see confederate flags everywhere it's not uncommon at all especially out in the sticks . The politics came most in northern West Virginia were at the time the capital was . West Virginia definitely had quite a few slaves
Having had a car break down in the middle of the night in W.Va. I got to say, it sure seemed scary for awhile but I survived.
Much obliged for this video
As a native West Virginian it is worth noting that West Virginia was admitted to the union as a slave state with the provision that it would abolish slavery in the near future. Also to hear non-West Virginians trying to pronounce Kanawha is always good for a laugh. Your attempt at pronouncing it was laughable.
Ka-naw
East Tennesseans, led by Unionist leaders like Andrew Johnson and William G. 'Parson' Brownlow, attempted to separate from Tennessee and even sent representatives to the federal government to gain support for their cause. They wanted to form a separate, Union-aligned state, similar to what West Virginia would eventually achieve. However, Tennessee's state government, which was controlled by Confederate sympathizers, quickly suppressed this movement and then imposed martial law to prevent any organized rebellion.
BTW 5 prounionist counties were in West Tenneessee too and 1 prounionist county in Middle Tenneessee (Macon).
West Virginia exists because the people there love their country
The Blue Ridge Mountains and the Shenandoah River are in Virginia not West Virginia. It goes in WV for like half a mile.
West Virginia had to pay Virginia the equivalent of 700,000,000 dollars to become a state
While I understand the many reasons why they broke in 2, doesn’t the U.S. constitution specifically forbid the formation of a new state out of an existing state? So possibly, the formation of West Virginia was unconstitutional. Yes, it happened during the Civil War, with both areas having different allegiances and ideologies, but the SCOTUS could have ordered them back together again when the war ended.
It absolutely WAS unconstitutional.
@ Thing is though, I don’t think either Virginia is too keen on any notion of reunification, not in 1865 or even now. Too many differences and circumstances. Two different societies. I’ve heard before that they were always two different states living under one roof before 1863. Somehow, I don’t think a forced re-marriage is viable, no matter how unconstitutional it was during the Civil War. All that did was give them a window of opportunity to get their own statehood,something they’ve wanted for years.
@@VideoHitz2023 First they founded the prounionist Virginia government and West Virginia got permission from the prounionist Virginia to found a new State. The prunionist Virginia capital was Alexandria. Interesting law idea was.
@ I’ve heard it said that the split between the two Virginias was a divorce that was a long time coming. They just couldn’t agree on anything, they were too different, and so parted their separate ways.
YES!👍
I wrote a history paper at county college on this clearly basic topic for which, I believe, I easily made a compelling case that West Virginia’s formation was unconstitutional.
Other commenters here are saying ‘it was a divorce that was going to happen anyway’, ‘reuniting them would have been too difficult’, etc.
Those concerns are besides the point. It was simply a matter of convenience and benefit to keep the two states separate but it was in no way constitutionally decided.
A video on some of the crazy stuff of Arizona would be nice
Blue ridge mountains are NOT in west virginia. They are in Virginia. John Denver got it wrong too.
The Blue Ridge Mountains are a physiographic province of the larger Appalachian Highlands range. The mountain range is located in the Eastern United States and extends 550 miles southwest from southern Pennsylvania through Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia.[1
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ridge_Mountains
Union soldiers with guns at the polling locations sure does help that vote to leave Virginia.
Yes, indeed, this video is flawed. The winners write the history. I'm from West Virginia, and many West Virginia counties were stolen. Fake news and government corruption is not new.
WV residents here. Also helped that many men that could vote had left to join the confederacy and therefore didn’t vote.
@@MarqBarq West Virginia was planned smaller with big % prounionist population, but during the Civil war West Virginia got a lot of proconfederate counties: Greenbrier, Pocahontas, Mercer, Pendleton, Wyoming, Monroe, Jefferson, etc, so the USA Army and Confederate Army soldier numbers were near equal. The original Ohio valley Kanewha state (later centre of nowdays West Virginia) was solid prounionist majority.
@@avenaoatoh I know. I live in one of those added later. What is called the Eastern Panhandle today.
@@MarqBarq In the East Pendhandle Morgan county was strong prounionist. Berkley was about 50-50%, Jefferson county was proconfederate majority.
East Penhandly was united to West Virginia for the Baltimore & Ohio railroad.
Interesting Loudon county was prounionist in Virginia, but it was not united to West Virginia. Some counties in South West (East) Virginia had a few prounist minorities (red strings and Heroes of America) same to the Shenandoa valley.
WV has the hardest origin story
4:37 why is the state of Tennessee abbreviated as OR?
It should be Tn. OR is Oregon.
@@Sj430 Yeah, indeed.
There seem to be a lot of little quality-control problems like that in their videos.
Williamsburg was the first capital of Virginia and the governor’s palace is still there. They moved the capital to Richmond after the attack on Yorktown
Almost Heaven, West Virginia
Blue Ridge Mountains, Shenandoah River
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, growin' like a breeze
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
All my memories gather 'round her
Miner's lady, stranger to blue water
Dark and dusty, painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine, teardrop in my eye
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
I hear her voice in the mornin' hour, she calls me
The radio reminds me of my home far away
Drivin' down the road, I get a feelin'
That I should've been home yesterday, yesterday
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Take me home, (down) country roads
Take me home, (down) country roads
I love how the Supreme Court is basically saying to Virginia, "You started it and lost, now deal with it." 😂😂😂
The colonies declared independence in 1776, not 1775
I’m so proud of this channel, they finally filled in Oklahoma as a confederate state… Chattel slavery in Indian territory, proved that they also wanted to be part of the confederacy, even though there were union holdings in the state😬
blue ridge mountains are at no point ever in west virginia, it’s in virginia
but overall good video
why did Bourbon county break away from VA? better known as KY.
Completely distracted by TN being labeled OR. Idk what you even said
And why were the 2 Eastern Counties so important to be part of West Virginia and the Union? Because the Baltimore & Ohio RR runs through those counties and the Feds wanted control of that railroad.
If somebody looks at the 1860 USA map, she or he will detect the Wheeling penhandle in Virginia, which cuts to almost 2 parts of the North.
I think Stephen Douglas looked at the map. The Northern USA was an unviable country. If the North had accepted the Seccession the North would have become 3 countries, as Pacific, Midwest and the East in 25 years. So the War was the only possibility, Stephen Douglas critizied Lincokn for the only 75 000 volounters, because Stephen Douglas would have asked for 200 000 volounters. Luckily the silly Southern politicians wanted to accelerated the seccession with Fort Sumter that the border states could join the Confederacy. West Virgina had long lasting problem with the plantation (East) Virginia (West Virginia had 4.6% slaves and the (East) Virginia had 38.7% slaves), so the State seccession got good support from the North.
Lincoln hesitated a little to sign West Virginia state decision, but if I remember well Lincoln would have said something this: " Virginia secceded from the USA so the West Virginia could separate also.
BTW the 13th Amendments was made similar law inven in 31 January 1865. The Northern States could say the 11 slave holding states were 11 TRAITOR states so they lost the veto possibilities. The 75% states were for the whole USA abolution. Without the seccession the 75% states were not for any WHOLE USA ABOLUTION Amendment of the Constitution.
Virginia was TRAITOR STATE, so any veto against West Virginia foundation was lost. West Virginia, Contraband slaves (general Butler), Emancipation and the ALL SLAVES ABOLUTION according to 13th Amendment of the Constitution originated from the VETO POSSIBILITY LOST of THE TRAITOR STATES!
Funny the Republicans and Lincoln thought the whole Country abolution Amendment of the Constitution about 1920 (XXth Century) because the 75 % free states majority would have been that time!
Interesting video
As my mother language is Spanish, i am bot sure if i get this correct. Does the last 20 seconds of the video mean that the current republican party is the antislavery, whereas the confederacy would be the current democrat party ideas?
Yes that is largely correct. The Republican Party started as an anti- slavery party.
before the Great Depression and the New Deal yes, after it's sort of complicated.
@@Zach476 now it does were witnessing a major realignment of party affiliation this decade
@@Zach476 more minorities and immigrants voting republican
yes. The current republican party is the same party of lincoln, where as the democratic party of today was the same party that suceeded from the union.
Neither the Shenandoah River or the Blue Ridge Mountains are in WV
The Shenandoah River and the Blue Ridge Mountains do both run through Jefferson County in the eastern panhandle. So while they are barely in West Virginia, they are however there.
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very good video even though I already knew the answer
Please make a video on kentucky's history!
2:30 - It seems you mixed western Virginia and Eastern Virginia. Quality control, guys... quality control.
Actually, Virginia was the first fully established English colony. Other Europeans like the Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch already had New World colonies by that time.
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Its like asking why Davao break-up into 5 small provinces or why Cotabato divided into 7 mini Provinces and counting of Mindanao island in the Philippines.
For a future video idea. Why not explain why Maine broke away from Massachusetts.
Abe Lincoln wasn't against slavery, Maryland and even points north had slaves, he was fine with them. And he never forced West Virginia to abolish slavery as the terms of joining as a new state. He only made abolition an issue under pressure from abolitionist politicians in his party and as a war measure. From the beginning he wanted to prevent slavery from spreading to new territories, which angered the south because that would make the north and free states more powerful than them in Congress. Abe Lincoln also never believed in equality either.
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I like your videos but you really need a proofreader. In this video you reversed East and West on the graphic, misspelled secession, labeled Tennessee as Oregon, etc. On a previous video you misspelled Shreveport, etc. Makes me question the accuracy of your research if you can't spell the things you researched.
Why is there north and south Carolina and north and south Dakota
From what I understand, in 1861 mountain parts of Alabama and Tennessee wanted and trayed to break away from those states and stay with the union but failed.
West And East Virginia will one day become one giant Virginia.
EDIT: Think some people missed the Joke tbh
Yeah that’s never gonna happen. Virginia is a slightly blue leaning state, West Virginia is one of the deepest red states in the country. That’ll turn giant Virginia into a deep red state.
nope thats why they voted trump in and harris out, to independent
East Virginia is liberal, West Virginia is conservative. They wouldn’t get along
Don’t you mean Best Virginia
Harpers Ferry was in Virginia at the time of John Browns raid.
So im an ACTUAL historian, and im here to tell you how incorrect/inaccurate the video is...
The Civil War was NOT about slavery (not at first, until the emancipation proclamation was issued in 1863 and that was also ONLY a political move because Britain was about to join the war on the side of the confederacy)...
The South wanted to become independent because of the same rural vs. urbanization issues mentioned in this very video that explains the split between the 2 Virginias... but also because the government was deliberately passing policies that favored the north and urban areas at the expense of the rural areas of the south. Also, most federal government funding and investment/infrastructure went to northern states and not southern ones... Furthermore, Lincoln HIMSELF said that the war was NOT about slavery but to "preserve the union as it currently stands" president obama admitted that the emancipation proclamation was just a political ploy and not a legitimate or even legal document.
The fact that Lincoln was in favor of cecession for WV while not allowing cecession for the confederacy was completely hypocritical and was only because it benefits his view. The constitution at the time DIDN'T say cecession was illegal NOR did it say slavery was unconstitutional, so his argument about "cecession against or in favor of the constitution are different" is not valid at all legally speaking.
Speaking of Lincoln, the ACTUAL reason the confederacy ceceded was because Lincoln DIDN'T win the popular vote and was only elected because of the electoral college rules... furthermore, Lincoln WASN'T even on the ballot in most states and none of the southern states had him on ballots and yet he still won the election, so they legitimately and fairly believed the election was rigged (because it was).
They said in their OFFICIAL (undoctored/uncensored)letter of cecession that "we cecede not because of the issue of slavery but only because the us government treated the south like an independent nation thats under occupation, so we may as well become independent and get rid of the occupation" but of course nobody ever talks about that. They also directly cited the fact that Lincoln won the election illegally because he wasn't actually on any official ballot
History is ALWAYS written by the victors, and thus, they ALWAYS skew everything so they look like tne good guys and dismiss any counter arguments as "propaganda or false information " even if it WAS the truth. Everyone believes it was about slavery ONLY because they were raised that way and don't know better, and also because opposition to this view is considered "evil" just because anti slavery is the right thing to do, despite the fact that the truth is that slavery wasn't the reason why the war started it was to eliminate the states ability to govern themselves independently from the central federal government. So states rights WAS the actual reason after all...
The reason why Fort sumter was attacked was because immediately after they declared independence, the union immediately invaded, thus starting the war and making attacking the fort valid... but nobody knows this because the government censored the fact that the union actually attacked first (and lost) they also changed the dates on documents to make it look like bull run happened after sumter but it ACTUALLY happened BEFORE it... according to uncensored documents from Britain and outside the US... the south DID agree to not cecede if a recount was done or Lincoln was removed from office because, again, they viewed, rightfully, that he had won illegally because his name wasn't an official candidate nor was he on the OFFICIAL election ballot... his was one of the names written on the extra line that just so happened to get the nomination from the official republican party (only because they were brand new and had no other options for nominees)...
everything is true that I've said and i can provide unbiased sources from first hand primary sources from the time period that prove it, and if you don't know that this is all true, then you and your team are NOT REAL researchers or historians, or you are bribed to not discuss it out of fear that your channel will lose viewers or future funding... I don't mean to be so harsh, but i care so much about UNCENSORED/UNBIASED history and about TRUTH that i have to call out the channel for false information if i see it (It's not my fault im better at researching than your team is). Just because everyone says it was because of slavery DOESN'T make it true. It just means they are too afraid to speak the truth because they might get attacked or ostracized for speaking the truth... or it's all about views and funding or looking good in public to "save face" or reputation. ANY real unbiased researcher will tell you exactly what i just said, if they don't its because they either have an agenda or believe the false agenda because they don't know better or use "piggyback" research done by others who have agendas or otherwise benefit from censorship... please do more research before you post videos. Some are great, but most are under researched, and i don't allow "not enough time to research" or "the videos are supposed to be short and theres no room for that information" as a excuses... just postpone the release of videos until you have the proper research done and make them longer to make sure all points are covered...i guarantee you that people will understand, and your channel will improve and grow as a result... otherwise, if you continue to be biased, i will unsubcribe and tell others to do the same on the grounds of inaccurate information being spread.
I think an old reddit user summed it up best for me years ago:
The study of the primary cause of the U.S. Civil War goes in three parts:
1. The primary cause of the U.S. Civil War was Slavery.
2. The primary cause of the U.S. Civil War was complex and was not all about Slavery.
3. The primary cause of the U.S. Civil War was Slavery.
My advice to anyone who wants to know: go read the primary sources yourself and draw your own conclusions. And ignore literally every last word you read on the comments section of TH-cam. Lol. 😂🎉
There is a little bit of a leap at the end, West V was reliably a democratic state for a good part of the XX century and the opposite was true about VA. Their current partisanship is somewhat recent in historical terms
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Interesting
The blue ridge mountains are NOT in WV. Nor is the Shenandoah River. Those are across the border in ole V’ginny
Kanawha is pronounced Kuh-naw.
I'm wondering why the appalachian counties of virginia didn't join west virginia ? Can anybody shed some light on that ?
So the original West Virginia did not include 8 counties on the present Virginia border, but those were added later and were part of a disputed court case because those counties never participated in the vote to join West Virginia because they were controlled by the CSA.
So they actually already took more than the realistically could have based on popularity.
Nothing about the origins of Kentucky? The Great Compromise? There weren’t only two states that originated from the Virginia colony.
Now West Virginians fly Confederate flags.
It's not too late to fix the OR in TN thing. It's distracting
Yall got Norfolk in the wrong location lol
West Virginia did not abolish slavery until 1865, in anticipation of the 13th Amendment. What the video is quoting as the abolition of slavery is, I think, the Willey Amendment, which would not have freed slaves until 1867, and provisioned for those under 10 to be freed once they turned 21 and those between the ages of 10-21 to be freed at 25. So that sentence was misleading.
Context needed on that last part about the political alignment. For many years the Democrats dominated West Virginia even after Virginia became more Republican in terms of its political Outlook especially in the 80s and 90s in fact West Virginia did not shift Republican until the Democrats begin their war on coal. Virginia on the other hand has turned a sickening shade of blue but for one reason and one reason only the immediate counties around the District of Columbia which has a lot of federal employees living there especially Fairfax and Loudoun counties the political environment in Virginia is a little more Rocky because the governor is only allowed one term and more recently because of other social issues such as critical race Theory the governor's mansion has gone back to the Republicans and even with Glenn Duncan limited to one term is Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears is a shoe-in for replacing him. Now back to West Virginia of course outgoing Senator Joe manchin had left the Democratic party but he still caucused with them he had been the previous governor of the state several years back when he appointed himself to take over the senate seat after the death of Robert Byrd certainly because of the war on coal the state had already been trending to the red column and a lot of that also accelerated him going independent butt of course the other Senator Shelley Moore Capito took over from Jay Rockefeller in many ways West Virginia is more like another area that used to be part of Virginia that broke away and that is Kentucky because likewise adversely affected by the war on coal both in the Eastern Mountain is part of the state as well as the Western coal fields and much like West Virginia Kentucky is a state that has been slow to embrace Republicans and has periodically in various offices backslid towards the Democrats name me the governor's mansion but it is also not the Democratic party of Happy Chandler anymore. But within my lifetime the governor's mansion both US Senate seats and congressional seat in my home District were all held by democrats end my home county Warren County home of Bowling Green third largest city in the state used to be 10 to 1 Democrat by registration. Now we're about 58% Republican in terms of registration but there's a saying was attributed I believe to Mark Twain and I've heard it said both about Kentucky or West Virginia saying that when the world ends I want to be in either of those because everything happens 20 years late....
Great example of why California needs to be split up.
West Virginia didn’t break away it was carved out of Virginia. This is against the Constitution which states that each State and the area that wants to become a new State must both agree on it.
Kentucky please!!!
The very last line might be correct because of the names of the parties but the actual politics are very different
West Virginia had only 4.6% slaves population. However the planned original smaller West Virginia (Kanawha state) had less slave population than 4.6% slaves. During the Civil War West Virginia got higher slaves populated (PROCONFEDERATE) counties at the East Virginia border. The Federal army occupied them during the Civil War. For example Jefferson 28.2% slaves, Greenbrier 12.7% slaves, Monroe with 10.5% slaves or Hardy 11.2% slaves. In the original smaller West Virgina would have been only the salt producer counties with higher % slaves, the Kanawha valley counties as Kanwha county with 13,7% slaves.
Most mountain West Virginians didn't have slaves.
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Kanawha is pronounced Ka-naw
Sorry, but all the scene and camera movement are irritating.
TN > OR
This last nap I’m looking at is little incomplete, although I have not watched the whole program yet because the territories of Arizona and Mexico were also part of the confederate United States, which all aligned with democrat ideals, which New Mexico still is a Democrat state while Arizona when it became a state became republicanArizona is one of the few states where you can stand in one location and see all the flags that flew over it throughout history the Spanish flag the French flag the Mexican flag the confederate flag the United States flag, and of course, Arizona territory and statehood flag
How Come USA Has To Virginias
West America and east America
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Hey WV still gets very little money for development and infrastructure. Not much has changed 😂
For 5 seconds you put west Virginia on the east side, and east Virginia on the west 😅
Only some wannabe be from North Carolina would include North Carolina as a part of Virginia
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I think it was to marry first cousins.
The first successful European settlement in the future USA territory was in Florida. The current States are including lands colonized by different European powers, not just by British
Technically it was Puerto Rico, which is part of the US but not the mainland.
Lost cause is REAL and JUSTIFIED . btw.
West Virginia shouldn’t have been made a state
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tl;dr:
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Poorly done, and you left out a lot of history.
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I hate that song
West by God! The marrow of the world!
Was a thumbs up until: The deep red of Lincoln's Party. hahahaha
and the Democratic Virginia. Knowledgia needs to do a video on the Republican Southern Strategy following the Civil Rights Movements and subsequent laws passed. Inset Lee Atwater quote>>>>>>>>>
Slavery. Next question
Because they knew Northern VA would become (unfortunately) woke.
Lady, this is an educational video lol. Go be a Karen somewhere else
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Yup! Nailed it!
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