I’m Italian/German in ethnicity, and it’s great to see portraits with this figure type. There is a book called Cut My Cote, which covers the relationship between fabric sizes and materials and how clothes are made.
This was very helpful! I’m new to the SCA and it’s kind of stunning how expensive fabric can be, and not being able to afford wool or linen (much less silks and brocade) makes me super sad. Maybe one day people will pay me to make their clothes and even if I don’t wear it I can still sew with it 🤔
I used the Tudor Tailor kirtle pattern with the v-shaped neck/back. I added boning because it was a practice project and I wanted to try several things out. I also tweaked it to have side lacing on both sides in stead of front or back lacing. I am eagerly awaiting the next Tudor tailor book the Stuart tailor :-) Love this vid btw, it answered a lot of my questions about how to use fabric to stiffen in stead of boning (I see some new kirtle making in my future). I also love the "proto kirtle"! After this I am going to binge the rest of the vids on your channel, lol, allready have the "making buckram" one ready to go :-) Lot's of love from Belgium!
Coming to this party late, obviously but, in addition to the excellent books mentioned in the video Drea Leed's book The Well dress'd Peasant has some excellent information and closer-fitting/supportive shift.
I loved seeing the multi 'cultural' (?) use for the kirtle, I'm so excited to learn/choose which accessories to make to to increase my persona options! I had the great luck to take a Tudor Tailor Kirtle making class last year (right before lockdown) with Harlie Des Roches (Harls Barkley) who graces the cover of the The Typical Tudor, we also got to make the 'cote/coat' from the new book. ~C
This is also the era of the so called Lengburg Bra, but I know breast bags were also spoken, or written, of in this era as well and those who have made versions of these report that they are very comfortable, supportive and give the rounded effect as well.
I really enjoyed your article here but I must ask since you do all these accessories though they're not of the same time period Have You thought of also doing a medieval kirtle hood as part of your dress?
I had a q in the live chat of this that we ran out of time for. Is there a washable alternative for buckram for bodice stiffening that would be suitable for kirtles and for things like stays? Obviously they aren't meant to be washed in the same way historically, but, modern sensibilities 🤷🏽♀️
I would think that there is probably a modern iron-on interfacing that would be a similar weight if you're okay with using that for a historical project where it won't be seen, maybe try making a small piece of buckram as a swatch and then bring that with you to the store to compare to modern weight interfacings in terms of weight. Only thing I know is that what fabric stores generally carry that is labeled as buckram today is millinery buckram, which is NOT the same thing and cannot be used as a substitute for historical buckram. I hope this helps!
I was watching Brave. I decide I "need" Queen Elinor's purple dress she has on in the very beginning. I turn on this video. An ad for Disney+ pops up. Hmmm.....🤔🤣
I love the look of kirtles and would love to make one for myself, but I've only seen them made of wool (which I can't use) would it work made completely out of linen? Was that a thing?
Cathey Hay and Bernadette Banner did a collab video with a contemporary German corset maker, that centered around tailoring. It doesn't get extremely in-depth, but it's a decent jumping off point. If I can find it, I'll edit this post and add a link.
It would be great if you did have a kirtle sew-along.
PLEASE
Yes!!
Definitely!
I have yet to find a sew-along of a supported kirtle without boning - I'd be delighted to see this done and dissected!
Adding my vote to this, one year later!! 😍
Oh my gosh thank you so much for the shout out! A++ video, this was super great!
I’m Italian/German in ethnicity, and it’s great to see portraits with this figure type. There is a book called Cut My Cote, which covers the relationship between fabric sizes and materials and how clothes are made.
Cut my Cote is excellent
German here! Your pronunciation is really good.
So many of these older dresses I noticed make it easy for mothers to nurse.
This was very helpful!
I’m new to the SCA and it’s kind of stunning how expensive fabric can be, and not being able to afford wool or linen (much less silks and brocade) makes me super sad. Maybe one day people will pay me to make their clothes and even if I don’t wear it I can still sew with it 🤔
Matthew Gnagy (The Modern Maker) does an awesome tutorial on padstitching.
This was great! Loved the questions, conversation, and seeing the different fabrics being handled
Thank you. Great program. I have used the Tudor Tailor patterns. I did bone my kirtle but that was a personal choice. Thanks
I used the Tudor Tailor kirtle pattern with the v-shaped neck/back. I added boning because it was a practice project and I wanted to try several things out. I also tweaked it to have side lacing on both sides in stead of front or back lacing. I am eagerly awaiting the next Tudor tailor book the Stuart tailor :-) Love this vid btw, it answered a lot of my questions about how to use fabric to stiffen in stead of boning (I see some new kirtle making in my future). I also love the "proto kirtle"! After this I am going to binge the rest of the vids on your channel, lol, allready have the "making buckram" one ready to go :-) Lot's of love from Belgium!
Thank you!
Thank you for this! In the well endowed camp and needing something that isnt elastic for clothing support.
Fantastic presentation! Thank you, Brittany, Angela, Christina and the Renaissance experts who added info!!
Thank you for such an in-depth look at kirtles and accessories. I've never made one but am now considering it because of you!
Coming to this party late, obviously but, in addition to the excellent books mentioned in the video Drea Leed's book The Well dress'd Peasant has some excellent information and closer-fitting/supportive shift.
Yes thank you!
Such fun!!!!!!! I'm fired up after today's presentation!
I loved seeing the multi 'cultural' (?) use for the kirtle, I'm so excited to learn/choose which accessories to make to to increase my persona options! I had the great luck to take a Tudor Tailor Kirtle making class last year (right before lockdown) with Harlie Des Roches (Harls Barkley) who graces the cover of the The Typical Tudor, we also got to make the 'cote/coat' from the new book. ~C
How wonderful!
Thank you so much for this. Very informative.
I love my madder color kersey. I can’t wait to make a 13th century kirtle so with it.
This is also the era of the so called Lengburg Bra, but I know breast bags were also spoken, or written, of in this era as well and those who have made versions of these report that they are very comfortable, supportive and give the rounded effect as well.
I really enjoyed your article here but I must ask since you do all these accessories though they're not of the same time period Have You thought of also doing a medieval kirtle hood as part of your dress?
Incredible information
Just a note on wool. The robes of the nomadic tribes of North Africa were historically made of wool. It is actually a very versatile fabric.
Thank you for sharing!
I need a sewing tutorial now !! bras are the devil built in suports sounds lovely!
Love the video, does anyone have the link to that supportive shift blog post?
Yes here is the blog www.neulakko.net/
I had a q in the live chat of this that we ran out of time for. Is there a washable alternative for buckram for bodice stiffening that would be suitable for kirtles and for things like stays? Obviously they aren't meant to be washed in the same way historically, but, modern sensibilities 🤷🏽♀️
Possibly synthetic buckram? TBH we have never used anything but linen
@@BurnleyandTrowbridge thanks for replying! what's the difference between synthetic buckram and normal?
@@nicolemulready6329 actually a quick search and I can only find drapery buckram that is washable. Most buckrams say dry clean only unfortunately
@@BurnleyandTrowbridge I appreciate you taking the time to look! I'll have to pick up some buckram to compare it to other fabrics I think
I would think that there is probably a modern iron-on interfacing that would be a similar weight if you're okay with using that for a historical project where it won't be seen, maybe try making a small piece of buckram as a swatch and then bring that with you to the store to compare to modern weight interfacings in terms of weight. Only thing I know is that what fabric stores generally carry that is labeled as buckram today is millinery buckram, which is NOT the same thing and cannot be used as a substitute for historical buckram. I hope this helps!
Schleier is pronounced SHLAY-ER. Thank you for the interesting video.
Thanks for the info!
I was watching Brave. I decide I "need" Queen Elinor's purple dress she has on in the very beginning. I turn on this video. An ad for Disney+ pops up. Hmmm.....🤔🤣
Are you wearing a Wool& dress? It looks like the Maggie to me, but they no longer have that color.
Everything worn by Britney was sewn by her.
I love the look of kirtles and would love to make one for myself, but I've only seen them made of wool (which I can't use) would it work made completely out of linen? Was that a thing?
Yes you can use linen although I think typically they were wool
Cathey Hay and Bernadette Banner did a collab video with a contemporary German corset maker, that centered around tailoring. It doesn't get extremely in-depth, but it's a decent jumping off point. If I can find it, I'll edit this post and add a link.
Tenterhooks? Ouch!!!!!