Definitely for revenge Orlando did it over and over again it's practice even if it's a trained movement and a reaction if ur taking it easy on a smaller guy who's training for a fight Orlando definitely knows how to now hyperextend somebody's arm
Pulling only 25% of the technique thow I'm sure Sean was justifiably upset with the situation but emotional outbursts are no way to handle things 3 strikes your out.
@@danenewport3214 One time? My bad. Two times? Alright, I’ll crank it down a notch. Three times and you have a pattern of BEHAVIOR. Sociology 101, Uncle Chael.
@@chonqmonk does that deserve a fucked up elbow/shoulder before a MAIN EVENT, couldve cost him couple hundred thousand dollars. dont @ me because theres no reason for this behavior before a fight.
yeah my thoughts as well. Chaels ridiculous perception only works if you don't listen to what actually happened. lol Dude never said it was a mistake, he says something along the lines of "what it's just a submission technique" or some shit.
It was proven he did it deliberately because afterwards Orlando says "..you said I didn't belong here" which shows he did it for that reason, thus it was deliberate. Chael is wrong here
Orlando was def in the wrong...he basically admits it himself by saying,"Well you said I dont belong". Makes it seem like it had malicious intent. Sean has a fight coming up and there was NO need for that shit
@@hia5235 since when is underhooking somebody a dirty move? Underhooking is as common in grappling as throwing a jab in striking. So what in the f is your point?
@@hia5235 they brought that guy in to train. A training partner shouldnt be trying to take u out of commission when u have an upcoming fight. Like lets say ur sparring with a better striker who is way better and hits harder. He shouldnt try and knock u out right?
Orlando literally said “what u were saying that i don’t belong here and i do a quick little submission and u get all pissed” so he was doing it on purpose bc he said he didn’t belong there and obviously he doesn’t belong there lmao
sadly a lot of people are like this. so simple minded lol its possible but to say it like its fact is funny to me given that statement lol and I dont even know who these 2 dudes are
the big guy was an asshole, despite you're best efforts to be a contrarian. he clearly had bad intentions and the way he was walking him down proved it. If you wanna de escalate you give someone space.
@@Emolga6274 or he knows the best way to get engagement from his audience is to be blatanly controverisal lol he should put up big signs letting everyone know he is the bad guy or something. . .
I've heard this twice now.. Is it definitely Parillo??.. If so he's a fukn moron... I watched it first time and felt so bad for Strickland (I'm aware he's a grown man) but he was getn the "whaaat... What happened??" treatment... I know fuk all about the lad but he has a fight comin up and this all seems like very bad darts
I learned this lesson when I was 12. My Dad would get all liquored up and run his mouth. We'd end up wrestling, and he would always end up putting me in Lex Luger "Rack"...
@@mikeross111 ah the time old traditions. Me and my younger brother used to get into it all the time and we would be in the front yard rolling around while my pops sat on the porch and gave pointers to whoever was losing lol good times.
Orlando did that shit on purpose and torqued that shit. Orlando being a black belt champ knows exactly what he did and how hard he did it. When your sparring your not suppose do anything with malicous intent. He cranked his arm hard.. Also right after as to admit his guilt he said your the one that said i didnt belong here.
Blows my mind people cannot see this.. I have 3 years in experience on the mats, and even I could see he is trying to hurt him with a explosive move, why not tell him to be careful in a fight keeping his arm there ? DIRTY SANCHEZ !
@@hia5235 its like a joint lock wrist crank shit i dont do bjj or wrestling but he tried to snap that shit, you can do this in grappling training/sparring but give him some time to react and tap, he literally exploded through that "submission" like hes in a real fight. this is like throwing a spinning elbow in sparring
The part that made me think Orlando was a dick wasn’t necessarily the fact that he tried to do it twice already but that his immediate defence was that Strickland was talking shit when they were warming up. Makes it 100% intentional and shows that he was trying to hurt him during the buildup for a pro fight out of ego driven revenge
It’s the equivalent to using an oblique kick on your training partner which can blow their knee out… it’s a malicious move and shouldn’t be used in practice.
"You talk all that shit and say i dont belong here then get mad when i hit a little submission" and there it is... built up animosity can infer malicious intent pretty clearly.
Yah he knew what he was doing. He was trying to break his arm. Watch it back again chael. He didnt simply just turn into it. He yanked his arm as hard as he could
He wasnt tryna break anything, hurt him maybe, but if orlando sanchez multiple time heavyweight ADCC contender wanted to take Sean's arm home with him he would have
@@naspointO except it’s not at all like that, the two submission you just name are attacks on the ligaments in your shoulder and knee, which yes would be a duck move since those can pop at any moment. What he did isn’t a shoulder lock, it’s an overextension of the elbow akin to an armbar. You’ll hurt someone like that and maybe even overextend their arm. But he didn’t hold onto that nearly long enough to extend tht arm to the breaking point. If anything it would be like slapping on an armbar real fast, which has a completely different level of danger associated w/ it compared to heel hooks and Americanas. It’s about as much of a “dirty move” as a knee stomp and would have a similar kind of effect on the arm as tht has on the leg
@@naspointO again, as someone who’s train the position I’m telling you there’s not a shoulder lock there. Idk if you know what a straight armbar from side control is but the rotation on the arm doesnt lock the shoulder. When pull an arm diagonally across your hip they tell you to pinch you knees because pulling the arm horizontally away from the hand most easily puts pressure in the elbow joint. Same here, the horizontal motion is to pull the hand he has in his armpit as far away from the rest of the arm as quickly as possible while pushing up on the elbow joint . If your arm is as extended as his is your not gonna get pressure on the shoulder until the arm has completely broken and given way. You can tell the difference in where the pressure is at yourself at home by putting your arms straight out in front of you and rotating them. At first you’ll feel the pressure on your elbow like in this video, it’s not until you completely rotate the arm and try to bring it your thumb back to you shoulder (which is why they teach you to keep the hand as close to the back as possible in keylocks and kimuras) that you’ll feel the pressure on your shoulder. That’s why Sean instantly grabs his elbow and not the shoulder. Not trying to be combative btw genuinely trying to educate
Nah, that second time he did it with some force. That wasn’t habitual, it was purposeful. His “whoa, hey hey” wasn’t to calm him down, it looked like he was half walking him down.
@@dasher964 a BJJ blackbelt with over a hundred pound weight advantage. Remember how Brock became UFC champion with just wrestling at first just having a 30lb advantage? Size matters. Oriando can't beat Black Beast, Francis, Stipe, Ganes, Volkov etc ... but this is a Middleweight we are talking about. He would get a limb broken.
@@LoadedKlip Brock won because he was on every steroid known to men not because of 30 pound weight advantage. Plus he was a wrestler which is MUCH better base than bjj. BJJ is extremely overrated aspect of mma and most black belts doesnt even know proper takedowns. Dude would get murdered by most top middleweights.
@@dasher964 Which is why Strickland kept walking away as Orlando walked towards him even after getting punched in the face and kicked in the stomach right?
Orlando’s demeanor after the incident is all you need to see to tell he did it on purpose, anyone who didn’t mean to do that would apologize and say I’m so sorry, not be defiant about not doing anything wrong
Orlando can be heard saying “ I just hit a quick submission” or something to that effect. A submission is something you can tap from to prevent injury. That’s not what it was. It was a dick move that could have injured a guy before a big fight.
If you hear the back story from Orlando, it sounds like (from his perspective) that Sean was chatting all sorts of shit beforehand… and he did it as a little way to keep Sean in check…
Chael knows damn well... that Orlando dude must be his buddy... or chael doesn’t like Strickland... either way Chael is covering. I mean come on dude is gunning for a injury!!
I have no idea about what's going with Strickland. He is supposed to headline a card, he is out there training with idiots and his trainer is nowhere to be seen to break it up. Just a sad, sad situation.
Sean Strickland comes into the gym, talks shit, insults the guy, challenges him.... then cries when the guy puts some malice in his grappling. Normally I would hate someone being malicious in grappling. But this isn't a friendly roll. It's essentially a Gracie challenge. And it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person (Strickland is a straight up psychopath).
That specific move usually snaps arms if it's ever locked in. He wasn't trying to submit him he was trying to break his arm. Usually they dont have enough time to tap.
This highlights the difference between sparring and real fighting. Counter moves like that, which can break someone's arm. Sparring is only ever practice.
That was a dick move. You develop habits but you can still be aware. I was a powerlifter so I was always well aware of my strength. It's easy to bully people in practice but that doesn't help you or them. It makes to look like a jerk.
There’s literally a video of Orlando saying Sean was being an arsehole to everyone and bulllying people He told Orlando he’s going to beat his arse so Orlando taught him a lesson
I'm beginning to think that chair is there tk Kirkland of MMA. For anybody who doesn't know TK Kirkland he's a comedian but he's been around in every and any story and you think this man's line but it's usually come back verified it's so bad that people say he helped Jesus walk on water when Jesus had doubt that's what I believe jail someone is the tea cake of MMA
Orlando 100% was trying to prove a point and was training with ego, he kept saying he'd break it if he wanted to and complained about Sean talking shit earlier. The fact that Sean has a fight coming up is what's really effed up.
Regardless of whether if was automatic or not, it's your responsibility to not hurt your training partners (especially if you've got the credentials and experience that Orlando has). The fact that he attempted a move for which you can't possibly tap in time to prevent injury is totally a scummy move. Has nothing to do with being a "big guy" uncle chael
Chael is a million percent incorrect. Orlando is a black belt world class Gracie barra BJJ guy with a shit ton of experience he should have known how to dial it back even trying to use a under hook
You don’t do that kind of shit when you’re helping a guy prep for a freaking main event… or any fight. He was pissed at Strickland and wanted to make a point.
Chael how could you not know this? I learned this motion in grade 8 wrestling. It forces the guy to get so deep I can throw from it, or it turns them. If they turn it gives you an easy single
Damn chael you trying to justify Orlando’s intent is just flat out dumb watch the video FULLY! Sean had every right to do what he did big fight coming up let’s go Sean!
Chael you've never seen that before? It's basically a standing Mir lock. The difference is, Orlando did it at 110% speed on someone 100 lbs smaller than him with 0 opportunity to tap out. It was a "snap or snap" submission. On top of that, immediately after being accused, he defends himself by saying "you've been talking shit saying I don't belong here!11!!1!" -- he admitted his own motive four seconds after doing it. He didn't do it to get him to remove the arm, there isn't even an opportunity to remove the arm before the move is complete.
I think Orlando did it on purpose. I've watched several real grappling matches of him and never seen him do it in those matches. So if it was a habit and he couldn't help it, he would doing pretty much every match when people go for the Underhook
There's a 3 min video which I believe is the full. I didn't see 4 times, but maybe someone who knows better will see. There was one where its a bad angle when he eventually walks away after.
Why is Sean even grappling with a guy he doesn't know, and has a bad vibe with, weeks before his fight?? Of course Orlando was at fault, but Sean and his team shouldn't put him in situations like that, simple as.
I showed this to the wife who knows very little about martial arts and I never said anything other than “watch this”. and on the first watching of it she said “that was obviously intentional”
Sean put his arm in danger twice. He barely escaped Orlando's first attempt got out but made the same mistake twice literally 10 seconds later...protect yourself at all times.
He didn't "forget he's a big guy" I weigh 245lbs and I'm always aware especially when I'm physical with another person, there's no way he forgot weighing 300lbs. This was physical gas lighting
as a world champion in bjj he knows exactly what hes doing, he even says "well you said i didnt belong here" he got his ego hurt and decided to try and hurt someone. and its even worse on him cause he's "helping" someone train for a upcoming fight and he knows that and he was told not to do it yet kept doing it even if you have a move thats your go to when someone goes for an underhook when someone tells you not to do it in training then dont do it
This happens a lot in boxing sparring. I can take a hit, but issue a warning if they go too hard. After that I’ll either up the power, or trip them and remind them I’m not just a boxer. With my experience, your trying to teach them it’s not power, it’s movement, combos and speed.
It was definitely intentional. If you see the full footage, Orlando said “That’s what you get for saying I don’t belong here” Chael “RUUVKA” Sonnen is the only person that pronounces RVCA.
I got to disagree with you here Uncle Chael, Orlando definitely did that with malicious intent.
As he should, Sean is literally a eugenicist
@@donnyj5805 can you back that up?
@Jack Yl is that like asking for paperwork saying hes a snitch? honest question idk what u guys are even talking about :)
The first time he did it, it looked like an uppercut the second time I noticed he trying to fuck that arm up
I swear to you Chael doesnt even believe half of what he's saying here 😂
He didn’t forget. Orlando was pissed and he is a bully. Period. You heard him say “you told people I don’t belong here”. He was trying to get revenge.
Definitely for revenge Orlando did it over and over again it's practice even if it's a trained movement and a reaction if ur taking it easy on a smaller guy who's training for a fight Orlando definitely knows how to now hyperextend somebody's arm
Totally agree
Pulling only 25% of the technique thow I'm sure Sean was justifiably upset with the situation but emotional outbursts are no way to handle things 3 strikes your out.
@@naro6477 his response was nothing out of the ordinary his arm was hurt, he's not a robot
@@danenewport3214 One time? My bad. Two times? Alright, I’ll crank it down a notch. Three times and you have a pattern of BEHAVIOR. Sociology 101, Uncle Chael.
Orlando is a weasel and he knows exactly what he was doing. BJJ champ with that much mat time knows better. Now the nation knows he’s a punk…
Or Sean could've stopped going for underhooks.
@@chonqmonk does that deserve a fucked up elbow/shoulder before a MAIN EVENT, couldve cost him couple hundred thousand dollars. dont @ me because theres no reason for this behavior before a fight.
@@chonqmonk We know it is you Orlando. You are not welcomed here.
yeah my thoughts as well. Chaels ridiculous perception only works if you don't listen to what actually happened. lol Dude never said it was a mistake, he says something along the lines of "what it's just a submission technique" or some shit.
It was proven he did it deliberately because afterwards Orlando says "..you said I didn't belong here" which shows he did it for that reason, thus it was deliberate. Chael is wrong here
Based on Uncle Chael predictions im 100% sure the dude wanted to hurt him.
Hahah yeah
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Big ups to the big guy lol
bottom line is that you shouldn't try to hyper extend someones elbow in a workout session before your partner has a big fight.
But it’s ok if he does t have a big fight
especially*** before your partner has a big fight
They are not partners
@@eclipsewrecker they are sparring partners, duhhh
@@oneill765 don’t conflate partnered with being partners
Orlando was def in the wrong...he basically admits it himself by saying,"Well you said I dont belong". Makes it seem like it had malicious intent. Sean has a fight coming up and there was NO need for that shit
good point detective slick silver
Yeah I dont get how Chael didnt bring this up
Thats ok. Sean doesnt need to train for this because he he wont see it in the UFC right? lol
@@hia5235 not against uriah hall, he wont....right?
@@tanerismailoglu9789 thanks
He almost cost that man a paycheck messing around trying to snap his arm
Dont undertook a guy that has 100 lbs on you. Ever.
@@hia5235 Don't try to break someones arm when training? Stop making this same excuse you clown
@@hia5235 since when is underhooking somebody a dirty move? Underhooking is as common in grappling as throwing a jab in striking. So what in the f is your point?
@@hia5235 it’s a training grappling match LOL you never go even 70% against somebody when you’re literally a pylon
@@hia5235 they brought that guy in to train. A training partner shouldnt be trying to take u out of commission when u have an upcoming fight. Like lets say ur sparring with a better striker who is way better and hits harder. He shouldnt try and knock u out right?
Orlando literally said “what u were saying that i don’t belong here and i do a quick little submission and u get all pissed” so he was doing it on purpose bc he said he didn’t belong there and obviously he doesn’t belong there lmao
Lmao right? Like hey way to prove Seans point dumb dumb.
Agreed. That comment confirmed he was pissed and did it on purpose.
And to top it off oralando said that when sean was outside the cage
This! I was literally going to say the same thing! Dude knew he was going to do some weasely shit from the get go.
sadly a lot of people are like this. so simple minded lol its possible but to say it like its fact is funny to me given that statement lol and I dont even know who these 2 dudes are
A guy trying to injure another in sparring is like an NFL coach letting his defensive lineman get his best shot at his own quarterback in practice.
This is a pretty solid analogy.
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Great way of putting into context. 👍🏼👍🏼
It's OK if it's Tom Brady let him be a warrior if he dies he dies
@@waynewilldoit5632 Absolutely.
Sean with the teep be like "I can't let you get close".
the big guy was an asshole, despite you're best efforts to be a contrarian. he clearly had bad intentions and the way he was walking him down proved it. If you wanna de escalate you give someone space.
100% he was just a 300lb grappler closing the distance on muich smaller guy he was mad at :D dunno what the fuck chael sees
Dude was definitely trying to hurt that arm!! No questions
@@SuperSaiyanCj chael is a genius, he doesn’t see things as they are . He sees way beyond
@@Emolga6274 or he knows the best way to get engagement from his audience is to be blatanly controverisal lol he should put up big signs letting everyone know he is the bad guy or something. . .
@@DirtSpud bingo
Not sure how you could get this so wrong. It was clearly malicious. His comment about Sean saying he doesn't belong in his gym only adds to his motiv.
Yeah I’m telling you bro, Chael is slow. He’s not that smart
@@Vega_Sports or there are behind the scenes stuff like that monster energy we don't know about
It bothered me that Parillo was just laughing about it, as a coach in the cage, knowing the guy had a fight coming up.
Drinking beer and filming like a highschool kid. This guy is really a head MMA coach? Clown shit
I've heard this twice now.. Is it definitely Parillo??.. If so he's a fukn moron... I watched it first time and felt so bad for Strickland (I'm aware he's a grown man) but he was getn the "whaaat... What happened??" treatment... I know fuk all about the lad but he has a fight comin up and this all seems like very bad darts
Ya parillo is such a terrible coach everyone that comes to him gets better .
Orlando definitely meant to do it, but that's why we love Chael Sonnen, he just never gets anything right (Mastertroll)
Those guys were talking shit right before sparring, if your chemistry is off with someone don't spar them, they will hurt you eventually
I learned this lesson when I was 12. My Dad would get all liquored up and run his mouth. We'd end up wrestling, and he would always end up putting me in Lex Luger "Rack"...
@@mikeross111 lmfao
@@mikeross111 ah the time old traditions. Me and my younger brother used to get into it all the time and we would be in the front yard rolling around while my pops sat on the porch and gave pointers to whoever was losing lol good times.
@@mikeross111 We need a rematch now
Orlando did that shit on purpose and torqued that shit. Orlando being a black belt champ knows exactly what he did and how hard he did it. When your sparring your not suppose do anything with malicous intent. He cranked his arm hard.. Also right after as to admit his guilt he said your the one that said i didnt belong here.
Blows my mind people cannot see this.. I have 3 years in experience on the mats, and even I could see he is trying to hurt him with a explosive move, why not tell him to be careful in a fight keeping his arm there ? DIRTY SANCHEZ !
ArmCrank is a BJJ move. Correct?
@@hia5235 they were in a standing clinch and it's not really a submission, but it could be, like Orlando did it with his entire 400 fucking pounds
@@hia5235 its like a joint lock wrist crank shit i dont do bjj or wrestling but he tried to snap that shit, you can do this in grappling training/sparring but give him some time to react and tap, he literally exploded through that "submission" like hes in a real fight. this is like throwing a spinning elbow in sparring
@@Macmathews1 Spot on
Ah, the old Rousimar Palhares defense. “He doesn’t know any better.”
He is 100% wrong here.
The part that made me think Orlando was a dick wasn’t necessarily the fact that he tried to do it twice already but that his immediate defence was that Strickland was talking shit when they were warming up. Makes it 100% intentional and shows that he was trying to hurt him during the buildup for a pro fight out of ego driven revenge
It’s the equivalent to using an oblique kick on your training partner which can blow their knee out… it’s a malicious move and shouldn’t be used in practice.
Small child goes for a hug
Orlando: I can't let you get close. *snaps elbow*
Strickland has a mouth on him and obviously hurt poor Orlando's feelings so he tried to snap his arm. Typical bully move.
Talking about bullies, Sean loves to beat the shit out of newcomers for fun
hoojiiiii source? Or it’s nothing
So someone talking shit then someone going hard on them is a bully?
"You talk all that shit and say i dont belong here then get mad when i hit a little submission" and there it is... built up animosity can infer malicious intent pretty clearly.
Its kind of unreal that there is ANY other interpretation of this. He gave his motive, then did it.
Yah he knew what he was doing. He was trying to break his arm. Watch it back again chael. He didnt simply just turn into it. He yanked his arm as hard as he could
He wasnt tryna break anything, hurt him maybe, but if orlando sanchez multiple time heavyweight ADCC contender wanted to take Sean's arm home with him he would have
As hard as he could. Lol........ false
@@fallingcloud1 watch his face. It shows exertion
@@naspointO except it’s not at all like that, the two submission you just name are attacks on the ligaments in your shoulder and knee, which yes would be a duck move since those can pop at any moment. What he did isn’t a shoulder lock, it’s an overextension of the elbow akin to an armbar. You’ll hurt someone like that and maybe even overextend their arm. But he didn’t hold onto that nearly long enough to extend tht arm to the breaking point. If anything it would be like slapping on an armbar real fast, which has a completely different level of danger associated w/ it compared to heel hooks and Americanas. It’s about as much of a “dirty move” as a knee stomp and would have a similar kind of effect on the arm as tht has on the leg
@@naspointO again, as someone who’s train the position I’m telling you there’s not a shoulder lock there. Idk if you know what a straight armbar from side control is but the rotation on the arm doesnt lock the shoulder. When pull an arm diagonally across your hip they tell you to pinch you knees because pulling the arm horizontally away from the hand most easily puts pressure in the elbow joint. Same here, the horizontal motion is to pull the hand he has in his armpit as far away from the rest of the arm as quickly as possible while pushing up on the elbow joint . If your arm is as extended as his is your not gonna get pressure on the shoulder until the arm has completely broken and given way. You can tell the difference in where the pressure is at yourself at home by putting your arms straight out in front of you and rotating them. At first you’ll feel the pressure on your elbow like in this video, it’s not until you completely rotate the arm and try to bring it your thumb back to you shoulder (which is why they teach you to keep the hand as close to the back as possible in keylocks and kimuras) that you’ll feel the pressure on your shoulder. That’s why Sean instantly grabs his elbow and not the shoulder. Not trying to be combative btw genuinely trying to educate
I love how Chael never ever lets the truth get in the way of a good story 😂😂
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If he can't not do it he shouldnt be sparring with a smaller guy who's preparing for a fight
Orlando is giving the underhook on purpose so he can crank on the arm it's so obvious the second time.
Nah, that second time he did it with some force. That wasn’t habitual, it was purposeful. His “whoa, hey hey” wasn’t to calm him down, it looked like he was half walking him down.
Shouldve aimed the kick to the chin
Me: RVCA is pronounced “Roo-Ka” or “R-V-C-A”
Chael: “Ruhv-ka”
Me: Ruhv-Ka. Got it. Thanks.
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The new one ☝🏻 and it looks great 👍 is it easy
Strickland vs Orlando is the fight to make, book it Dana
Catch weight of 263 lbs. Make it happen!
@@ameermohammad9143 how he is bjj blackbelt. He would get fucked in mma
@@dasher964 a BJJ blackbelt with over a hundred pound weight advantage. Remember how Brock became UFC champion with just wrestling at first just having a 30lb advantage? Size matters.
Oriando can't beat Black Beast, Francis, Stipe, Ganes, Volkov etc ... but this is a Middleweight we are talking about. He would get a limb broken.
@@LoadedKlip Brock won because he was on every steroid known to men not because of 30 pound weight advantage. Plus he was a wrestler which is MUCH better base than bjj.
BJJ is extremely overrated aspect of mma and most black belts doesnt even know proper takedowns.
Dude would get murdered by most top middleweights.
@@dasher964 Which is why Strickland kept walking away as Orlando walked towards him even after getting punched in the face and kicked in the stomach right?
Orlando’s demeanor after the incident is all you need to see to tell he did it on purpose, anyone who didn’t mean to do that would apologize and say I’m so sorry, not be defiant about not doing anything wrong
Your right
Absolutely he was not apologetic at all
Orlando can be heard saying “ I just hit a quick submission” or something to that effect. A submission is something you can tap from to prevent injury. That’s not what it was. It was a dick move that could have injured a guy before a big fight.
If you hear the back story from Orlando, it sounds like (from his perspective) that Sean was chatting all sorts of shit beforehand… and he did it as a little way to keep Sean in check…
Chael knows damn well... that Orlando dude must be his buddy... or chael doesn’t like Strickland... either way Chael is covering. I mean come on dude is gunning for a injury!!
Chael is scared of Orlando.
I have no idea about what's going with Strickland. He is supposed to headline a card, he is out there training with idiots and his trainer is nowhere to be seen to break it up. Just a sad, sad situation.
Orlando did that 100% on purpose. He even says “you don’t think I belong here.” He had a beef with Strickland
Sean Strickland comes into the gym, talks shit, insults the guy, challenges him.... then cries when the guy puts some malice in his grappling.
Normally I would hate someone being malicious in grappling. But this isn't a friendly roll. It's essentially a Gracie challenge. And it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person (Strickland is a straight up psychopath).
Wrong! He knew he would pop his elbow doing the move that ruff and fast. It’s like not giving someone time to tap on a heel hook.
That specific move usually snaps arms if it's ever locked in. He wasn't trying to submit him he was trying to break his arm. Usually they dont have enough time to tap.
That guy had ill intent. He missed it the first time and Strickland popped his elbow out. He hit it the 2nd time. He was trying to break his arm.
Chael Will forever defend the side that nobody agrees with
Undefeated and Undisputed
Sean's a bully anyways. He was smack talking Orlando and big boy while they were training, minding their own business.
It was the amount of torque Orlando was using trying to hit the crank. It was dirty! They was drilling half speed
This highlights the difference between sparring and real fighting. Counter moves like that, which can break someone's arm. Sparring is only ever practice.
That was a dick move. You develop habits but you can still be aware. I was a powerlifter so I was always well aware of my strength. It's easy to bully people in practice but that doesn't help you or them. It makes to look like a jerk.
Jason parillo should of seen that and been more vocal in the argument
He was drinking beers the whole time did you see the extended version. I was shocked seemed unprofessional and laughing at it.
Don’t forget he said it was a “submission”
Chael would make a good defense attorney, gotta be able to argue anything
Orlando definitely knew what he was doing. Especially after his comment about "oh you said I don't belong here". He was being an asshole.
There’s literally a video of Orlando saying Sean was being an arsehole to everyone and bulllying people
He told Orlando he’s going to beat his arse so Orlando taught him a lesson
He 100% knew what he was doing. That’s how you get your elbow popped
When Orlando said "Bro if I wanted to fuckin break it it'd be broken" I knew he did that shit on purpose
I just seen this on IG and now chael is blessing us with the TRUE story
Ahahahahah omg ur so funny . R u a comedian ?
I'm beginning to think that chair is there tk Kirkland of MMA. For anybody who doesn't know TK Kirkland he's a comedian but he's been around in every and any story and you think this man's line but it's usually come back verified it's so bad that people say he helped Jesus walk on water when Jesus had doubt that's what I believe jail someone is the tea cake of MMA
Saw*
Bisping killed Rockhold in an intense sparring session.
I was there. We all 👑 him the new middle weight champion on the mat.
Its ok to kick someones ass in a sparring session but not OK to attempt an injury
Sean Strickland "I can't let you get close"
He clearly was trying to hurt the guy. You could even see it on his face afterwards. He had the “play dumb but smile because I know what I did” look
I am confused on how it's a "submission" when he's throwing the technique like a hook lol
It’s one that is put on immediate ther is no control aspect to it. In a real situation you do it for a quick break.
Orlando 100% was trying to prove a point and was training with ego, he kept saying he'd break it if he wanted to and complained about Sean talking shit earlier. The fact that Sean has a fight coming up is what's really effed up.
Regardless of whether if was automatic or not, it's your responsibility to not hurt your training partners (especially if you've got the credentials and experience that Orlando has). The fact that he attempted a move for which you can't possibly tap in time to prevent injury is totally a scummy move. Has nothing to do with being a "big guy" uncle chael
Chael is a million percent incorrect. Orlando is a black belt world class Gracie barra BJJ guy with a shit ton of experience he should have known how to dial it back even trying to use a under hook
Chael you’ll beat them all up!
You don’t do that kind of shit when you’re helping a guy prep for a freaking main event… or any fight. He was pissed at Strickland and wanted to make a point.
when everyone goes right chael just has to go left
Yep...that cte is starting to kick in Chael buddy
I’ve never heard of RVCA called rivka
Orlando said Shawn was walking around talking mad shit acting like a bully before that so yea, he meant to do it.
Chael: Roovka Training Center
It's pronounced "Rooka" uncle 😂🤣
Shut your pie hole, ringworm.
@@MrDarrencurry Less of the jibber jabber , Rat boy
100% of 70% is my new favorite uncle Chael quote
"You hurt my feelings!" - then goes from 0 to 100 trying to submit him
Orlando was mad cause Sean said he didn't belong there, all he did was prove him right
It’s pronounce Rooka 😂 Chael charming as ever
I didn’t know that 🤷🏻♂️😂
I didn't know that either
@@KZ_MMA-KZ he’s referring to the interview about the Nogeuira brothers w Ariel.
sorry to correct you but is Hooka not Rooka
Orlando tries that with Chael
Chael: I can’t let you get close
Strickland is going to beat the crap out of the biggest bust in ultimate fighter history, uriah "not so primetime" hall
I think so too, Sean is a complete savage. I'm happy that asshole didnt injure him before his fight
Chael how could you not know this? I learned this motion in grade 8 wrestling. It forces the guy to get so deep I can throw from it, or it turns them. If they turn it gives you an easy single
I sometimes forget Chael is a Troll.. and he's real good a trolling us, casual 🤦😅
The teep to Orlando’s hulk abs was funny.
I can’t let you get close -Sean Strickland 😂😂
Damn chael you trying to justify Orlando’s intent is just flat out dumb watch the video FULLY! Sean had every right to do what he did big fight coming up let’s go Sean!
Did you watch this full video..lol chael says that after finding out the guy attempted it 5 times..He knows he was doing it on purpose....
Chael you've never seen that before? It's basically a standing Mir lock. The difference is, Orlando did it at 110% speed on someone 100 lbs smaller than him with 0 opportunity to tap out. It was a "snap or snap" submission. On top of that, immediately after being accused, he defends himself by saying "you've been talking shit saying I don't belong here!11!!1!" -- he admitted his own motive four seconds after doing it.
He didn't do it to get him to remove the arm, there isn't even an opportunity to remove the arm before the move is complete.
Wtf that’s not how it went at all Chael lol sometimes I wonder how serious he’s being lol
I really hope he's trolling us
I think Orlando did it on purpose. I've watched several real grappling matches of him and never seen him do it in those matches. So if it was a habit and he couldn't help it, he would doing pretty much every match when people go for the Underhook
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Hard to believe a bjj champ didn’t know what he was doing... 4 or 5 times, especially.
There’s certain grappling moves you don’t use during training. That overhook/arm wrench/ short armbar is definitely one of those moves.
I only ever remember seeing him do it once, did he do it 4 times? Is there a longer vid before the strikes and Yelp?
MMA Central’s channel has the full video
There's a 3 min video which I believe is the full. I didn't see 4 times, but maybe someone who knows better will see. There was one where its a bad angle when he eventually walks away after.
Why is Sean even grappling with a guy he doesn't know, and has a bad vibe with, weeks before his fight??
Of course Orlando was at fault, but Sean and his team shouldn't put him in situations like that, simple as.
Did you really say that Orlando can’t help himself? That’s just instincts? What is he a fucking robot?
I showed this to the wife who knows very little about martial arts and I never said anything other than “watch this”. and on the first watching of it she said “that was obviously intentional”
Sean put his arm in danger twice. He barely escaped Orlando's first attempt got out but made the same mistake twice literally 10 seconds later...protect yourself at all times.
I'm so glad uncle Chael decided to make a video about this
I do that under hook arm twist alot but slowly and no ones ever gotten mad..... Dangerous move to just go full speed crank
He didn't "forget he's a big guy" I weigh 245lbs and I'm always aware especially when I'm physical with another person, there's no way he forgot weighing 300lbs. This was physical gas lighting
He forgot he was a big guy on fentanyl and meth…
as a world champion in bjj he knows exactly what hes doing, he even says "well you said i didnt belong here" he got his ego hurt and decided to try and hurt someone. and its even worse on him cause he's "helping" someone train for a upcoming fight and he knows that and he was told not to do it yet kept doing it even if you have a move thats your go to when someone goes for an underhook when someone tells you not to do it in training then dont do it
Jon Jones did something like this to Glover when he fought, it popped Glover's shoulder...
Almost picked him up with it
That was a hard torque on the arm for light sparring. Ouch indeed
This happens a lot in boxing sparring. I can take a hit, but issue a warning if they go too hard.
After that I’ll either up the power, or trip them and remind them I’m not just a boxer. With my experience, your trying to teach them it’s not power, it’s movement, combos and speed.
Nah nah, Orlando knew exactly what he was doing. You could see Orlando setting it up to catch dudes elbow.
It was the way he was punching/slamming it each time and not just turning the elbow where he could react when he feels the pressure
Is that perry saturn?🤔
It was definitely intentional. If you see the full footage, Orlando said “That’s what you get for saying I don’t belong here”
Chael “RUUVKA” Sonnen is the only person that pronounces RVCA.