Australia's Sex v Gender Case Could Change Women's Rights GLOBALLY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2024
- Australian media are ignoring a landmark fight to reclaim sex based rights and protections
for all women and girls. This constitutional law case is not only relevant to Australia; it could potentially redefine women's rights around the world as it is based on a UN convention to which most countries are signatory.
Our guest on this week's Whittle is Sall Grover, the Australian founder of an independent female-only social media, networking platform and app called ‘Giggle’.
Giggle was created by Sall as a platform centred around women connecting with, and supporting, other women. The purpose was to provide an app that allowed women to safely connect; an important consideration when dealing with strangers. Giggle uses biometric technology to scan faces to ensure the app remains single-sex.
Sall is being taken to court because she wants her Giggle app to remain female-only.
This is a landmark case that is about to go to the Federal Court. If Sall Grover wins the case, it will be a big win for sex-based rights for women across Australia and potentially the world.
To support Sall's case and contribute, please visit Giggles' crowdfunder page: gigglecrowdfund.com/
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Female only spaces. Mixed spaces. Male only spaces.
Even though the whole argument is absurd. It feels that at its origin, Australia wanted to incorporate everyone into the non-discrimination. Maybe if trans-women had gone through the whole surgery and the whole deal, maybe this would have not been a huge issue. It started to become an issue when the bearded lady with a shlong walked into a women's bathroom, and when the entitlement to "be a woman" signified for men to play in women's sports.
These type of people deny reality, avoid facts, simply because they feel insignificant, disgusted with the world. They have simply decided to "create" a world to suit their own disconnection.
Are the prostate gland, bulbo urethral glands, and semineferous tubules all blocked off in transwomen surgeries?
Weird how this person is the one speaking on this topic when she herself created a sexist app for sexist reasons acting as if men being present are a threat and create unsafe environments for women while being wrapped up in the sexist and destructive MeToo movement which has been proven to be mostly false accusations by hateful people trying to cancel men.
Ironic. Sure doesnt like it when the exact same thing is done to her using the exact same idiotic way of thinking only with the target different.
Now listening to the part where she shows he clear sexism towards men at 29:00 in. Wow. Toxic femininity at work and a clear narrow view of reality acting as if only men do the things she brings up after 2 straight decades of women continually invading male only things and in one of the biggest cases worldwide, the utter destruction of the Boy Scouts in America, by girls invading it via social pressures and then denying them funding.
Toxic women are now getting a taste of their own tactics from trans people...and obviously, they dont think its fair. Welcome to being EQUAL to men as now you are getting what you have been giving.
I heard that the Tasmanian state legislature allows parents to choose what sex to put on the birth certificate regardless of the actual sex.
I can't believe just how woke the Ozzy politicians are.
Woke/Marxism is the enemy of all decent societies with proper values.
They want to break down society so they can take over completely.
I find it really ludicrous and infuriating that trans activists try to cancel anything they feel is "trans-phobic." Who is really the bully?
It’s worse than just bullying. Its strategic. They are trying to silence any dissenting voices so they can gain power and control. They are succeeding.
They are autogynophilic predators
Maybe a better question is why did society at large allow this to happen?
@@babysis6.059 ironically enough, I strongly suspect that a lack of men's only spaces has played a big part in it.
@@Engrave.Danger Absolutely. They're getting exactly what they demanded and frankly I'm finding it funny.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
― George Orwell, 1984
omg perfectly quoted
And trans activists are the "Word Police"!!!
One step away from 'Thought Police'
It does seem that increasing numbers of people are using "1984" as an instruction book, rather than a warning.
@peterhuxley8181 Yes they are! George Orwell didn't mention anything about paedophilia becoming legally protected though
@peterhuxley8181 any relation to Aldous? Oh brave new world that has such men.
Sex assigned at conception is immutable.....I am an Australian heterosexual male. Every baby I delivered as a Doctor was from an adult human female.
Les Griffiths
Sex is determined, not assigned at conception and it's observed not assigned at birth.
@@Paul-sj5dbThis is about counting chromosomes. Those are SET at inception.
@@michaelpettersson4919 That's what I said.
Hear Hear Dr Griffth
Sex isn't assigned. It is merely recognized and recorded.
Protecting women's sex-based rights is not transphobic. No other group in history has ever claimed that their rights should supersede another group's rights. Females deserve the right to have safe spaces, shelters, sports, etc. Just because a male identifies as a woman, doesn't mean their feelings should be able to override a woman's sex-based rights. Thank you, Sal, for fighting for the rights of all women.
Please enlighten me what is a Sex based Rights. Woman didn't even have tampons when my mother was having her first menstrual cycle. The 14th speaks to equal protection under the law. If a cis woman may get gender affirming breast implants equally a trans woman is entitled to access to the same gender affirming care.
@@Preciouspink What are you even rambling about? I have no problem with transwomen having access to "gender-affirming care" (even though I think that term is a misnomer). They can do whatever they want with their own bodies. What I do have a problem with is women's single-sex spaces and laws being destroyed. Title IX for example is supposed to protect and segregate sports for females and now you have giant males like Lia Thomas destroying women's sports. You have female-only abuse shelters being invaded by males. You have males SAing women in women's prisons. Instead of destroying women's spaces, transwomen should be lobbying for their own spaces.
@@Preciouspink Implant surgery is no more necessary for the physical health of a woman , born a woman, than trans. Anything that has to do with female born sexual anatomy, sexual organ health, pregnancyl, birth & post partum health, peri- & post menopause, etc., These are some of the obvious female, sex- based rights. Tampons are a modern convenience I personally would not like to be without, I don't even even understand you questioning or conflating convenience & unnecessary surgery, with born female right's to have her health care needs met. Gender affirming care is another matter altogether, whether for trans female or trans male.
Equal access to procedures falls under equal protection under the law. As An example being.Legislators are crafting laws blocking gender surgeries for only the trans woman particularly if under age 25. This is the unconstitutionality I am talking about.Another example is that cis men may get breast reduction.A trans man cannot have his breasts removed under some of this legislation. The courts have already ruled on these laws are unconstitutional.
@@Preciouspink Where did I say anything in my comment about "gender-affirming care"? I don't care if an adult chooses to take drugs or have cosmetic surgery. It is their body to do what they wish. However, taking cross-sex hormones and getting cosmetic surgery doesn't make you female. Females deserve single-sex spaces for safety reasons. That is what I mean by sex-based rights. The biological definition of woman/female needs to be codified so women can protect their safe spaces.
Aussie here. Please keep fighting. I don’t care who wants to dress up as a woman but don’t legislate to require the rest of us sane people to pay lip service to accept their craziness. Keep science as the bench mark. Stop the emotional blackmail.
American here. I agree with you 100%. The insane are starting to run the asylum.
What ever anty biology logic these people have , they need to deal with it the rest can sympathyse and let them do it, but please don't push it on regular straight people,
Yes, science teaches us that male cells contain XY chromosomes and females have XX chromosomes. This won't change in people, no matter what they believe about their gender.
I am a European living in your country. As I noticed, never was easy to be a real woman in Aus. I am lucky that I can leave Aus and go back to Europe if things become really really bad. Unfortunately, the Western world is all the same. Madness is the new norm everywhere
I don't care what they legislate I will never kowtow to a man playing dress ups
Can't Believe how many MOTHERS & FATHERS are sitting back ALLOWING THIS
🤣 what ever rights the far left grant them will not save them from the wrongs they commit, everyone I know would gladly go to prison to protect their children.
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They are not, they are not even allowed to be told what their children are being taught, and in a recent case in Wales this was backed by a judge when the school was challenged.
And now they are trying to dictate what home educators can teach.
Don't let up, they will soon realise that they have been brainwashed yet again, this is mental abuse of a minor if under the age of 18
As an Australian bloke I am disgusted by the rules and laws shoved upon Australian people without their knowledge.
As another Australian bloke, I am proud that bigots no longer allowed to get away with oppressing others simply for being different. Australia is a much better place to live than when one group of wowsers controlled everything.
@@Illawong I am so sorry that I have interfered with your Kremlin paid Propaganda that is designed to disrupt the unity of Australia and reduce us to infighting over imaginary differences rather than doing whatever we can to prevent the Western Rules lead system from being overrun by vicious Tyrants who's aim is to dominate and destroy. So, Ivan, take your Roubles and bugger off back to the Kremlin, you may identify as an Australian, but you are a Russian propagandist who wants
Roubles.
@@Illawong Oppresses what? Control what? We have discrimination laws for that. I'm some yous treated unfairly but not exaggerated to that extent.
We respect you, you respect us. Just don't put us in jail for misgendering or something ridiculous such as put female pretenders into girls and women sports.
@@Ichi.Capeta No one is going to jail for misgendering anyone. Moral people treat others with respect and will use people's preferred pronouns without it being a legal requirement. Bigots can easily avoid misgendering by avoiding pronouns and simply using people's names. Accidentally misgendering is never penalised. Fines are reserved by deliberately using misgendering to harm others, the same as we have fines for using racist names.
Sport is a difficult area as someone who has gone through male puberty has an advantage over cis women in some sports. It has no relevance for any other aspect of life.
What do you propose? A genital of medical certificate to use the bathroom. In the USA there have been many cases of others making incorrect assumptions. In one case, a cis woman was assaulted because she did not look womanly enough and was assumed to be a trans woman. In another, a trans man used the women's rest room because that is what legislation required and was assaulted and arrested because he was assumed to be a trans woman.
@Illawong Bugger off Ivan, just collect your Roubles from the Kremlin and go. We don't need your divisive propaganda destroying this country also.
What a HEROINE this woman is. I hope she goes down in history for her bravery in the face of evil.
What you talking about, quit making pretend heros out of ordinary citizens. SHE is being sued. She HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO STAND UP.
I am an Australian..... I hereby advise the Australian government....which is EMPLOYED by the Australian people, that the government DOES NOT have the authority to dictate who or what is male or female.
Those members of the population who have this mental health issue are welcome to it.....BUT...none of them have the right to IMPOSE their delusion on ANYONE else!!
💯
Damn straight 👍
I second that!!! Yes leave us out of your confusion.
They don't care. They trampled or constitution during covid. They will do it again.
Unfortunately too many of our countrymen are happy to follow any rule the government makes. So while I agree on principle, Australia is really governed under two basic concepts.
1 the golden rule: that is who controls the gold makes the rules.
2 enforcement by the willing. Those who enforce the rules are completely willing to follow orders of 1 without question.
Until the people are willing to stand up for their basic human rights, and the enforcement is willing to refuse to obey improper orders, we're basically f---ed
"Good men don't go into womens spaces." That describes this entire issue in a nutshell. I really hope JK Rowling is going to do this for Scottish women, who will be facing this crisis from 1st April, owing to unelected first minister, Humza Yousaf and his hate crime law
I agree … if the conversations of women offend transgender individuals then this is not the group where they belong and they should accept that and be decent human beings and not this god-awful cry bullies seeking to ruin others’ lives …
The judges in Australia should state that if the government want to change the constitution they should conduct a referendum. This happened in Eire. In Scotland the legal law should be challenged by using the constitutional law the Bill of Rights Act 1688. This gives the right to freedom of speech. It does not give anyone the right not to be offended.
@johntimbrell it's very hard to have any kind of discussion without offending anyone at all, which is the problem. Whats the issue with being offended anyway. Who gets up on the morning demanding nobody offends them 🤣. And Yousaf is installing 400+ booths where anonymous accusations can be made. He has stated that every accusation will be investigated. And only specific groups will have protected status. A biological white woman will have no protection against hate speech under this law for example
@@vivian9187is that true re white people not being protected under hate speech laws?
@@vivian9187 with respect you have not read or understood my comment. Quote, "Only specific groups are protected". Really? The bill of Rights Act 1688 protects all. Again with respect. Stop believing what the experts tell you. Surely after the Covid and Climate Change propaganda you do not still trust the state. As a start, learn the difference between lawful and legal.
I’m Australian and I really hope you win this legal battle because I feel women are being forced out of every safe space. I won’t go to public toilets or public pools anymore because I don’t want to have a man in there with me. I am 67 and have mobility issues so would be incapable of running out. Women need to fight back or we will lose all of our safe spaces.
How can you BE (as opposed to FEEL) unsafe in an ONLINE "space"? 😂
Women. ☕️
@@Kritikanbringer They quite clearly meant real world bathrooms and changing rooms. Which is perfectly valid. Zero mention of "online" anything because the internet is for all intents and purposes, a safe space thanks in large part to anonymity. A blessing and a curse given how much of this nonsense has spilled out into reality... At least people are able to speak up about it though.
Now you understand why men used videogames as a coping tool then everyone invaded OUR space.
@@rightwing707 Oh is it now, You can still get banned for amost nothing these days?
Sixty-five-year old American male here who is disgusted by these bad men, perverts really, who wish to invade womemen-only spaces.
Keep up the good fight, Sall, you are loved and supported for your strength in truth!
Many thanks sir.
I cannot imagine the stress Sall would be under with this case whilst in the very early and vitally important years of raising her child. My deepest thanks go to her and her team for standing up for females💪🏼❤️
Couldn't have said it better.
That is a very thoughtful comment. Can only come from a woman.
I saw a self professed queer man on a show the other day, telling a biological woman, "You don't get to gatekeep womanhood!" What on earth?
Make gate-keeping great again!
Such a man thing. They do 'woman' better than actual women don't you know?! LOL
Lmao, and my response would always be “yes I can. I’m a biological woman. You are not a biological woman, and never will be.”
For a second I thought you were quoting a trans !?@@MrsHyde1018
😄😄😄 "Sir, That's EXACTLY what REAL biological women not only *CAN* do, it has ALWAYS been *incumbent* upon us to do so." 😁
Aussie here, i accidentally tapped on this n bloody glad i did as i had NO IDEA!! Nothing is being said in MSM nor have the Australian government mentioned anything!! Wishing Sall all the best 👍🏾
Aussie here too. Don't worry it will be all over the News if she loose!
Media never says anything important
@aldob6379 💯 why I stopped watching years ago 😄
@2202frog I hope not! But I also think they don't inform us, just in case she does win?!😉
Please support the case in anyway you can. Especially if you live in Australia!
great show! we are getting clearer here... as a 65 yr old bi/gay American woman, retired kindergarten teacher-this talk outlines my dismay at losing my woman's rights, my lefty-liberal friends, my queer community... and what about the children? the trans agendists are creeping into the innocence of youth!
enormous thanks to this woman for logically articulating what is SO!
I am sorry for her stress, but her truth and poise, grace and grit, will prevail. I will contribute to the cause.
💙 thank you for interviewing her 💙
About 30yrs ago, the late Christopher Hitchens predicted the impact of infantilism on society. How right he was.
He and Dawkins chipped away at western Christianity - which, despite its (mostly minor) faults, was one of the last defenses we had against this madness (and against Islam).
@@jenniferlawrence2701 Sadly he did that too.
@@jenniferlawrence2701"Being make believe" is a pretty major fault. Don't blame other people for your skill issues, bro.
@@TheLongestConfidence
look around you at the state of society (that is biblically prophesied). ALL of your excuses for your wilful blindness are void.
@@jazzman1626if society is failing, you must admit religion has failed as well.
Considering religion is part of society, not the other way around.
As someone who’s followed this issue closely for years, this is one of the most clear, succinct, informative talks about the threat of gender identity. Sall, you’ve done a fantastic job as an advocate and you’ll be remembered as a heroine whatever the outcome of that punitive case. Best of luck.
As an African male i find the decline of the developed nations over the trans agenda alarming. Sall and her team needs all of our financial support as well as help in raising awareness to this potentially landmark litigation. Hopefully reason and logic will prevail.
A South African granny here with a granddaughter in Canada. I agree with you. The attacks on our western way of life, a llife of common drcency, a God fearing life. A life whete TRUTH is paramount, have become overwhelming. We have to speak out. We have to fight for Right. God bless you and your loved ones.
I know a 13 year old girl whose opponent in a sports team was trans.....a male body. Penis cannot be removed surgically until she/he is 18!!!
All women should get behind this amazing woman. She’s fighting for our rights.I have so much respect for her.
why? She was being gr sued, or else you would never have heard of her.
The world has gone mad you can't legislate against women to appease men. Feelings don't count. Biology counts. This poor woman she's pregnant had new baby having to cope with this madness.
Even if feelings did count, why are theirs more important? You can't have a two-tier law.
Why do you think the man was doing this at this time? Jealousy mysogyny and nacissistic arogance. Sadism in short, sgainst real women.
Biological essentialism got discarded when women discarded it for their benefit.
There is nothing wrong with the world, what's wrong is politicians trying to shove their self serving agenda down your throat under trhe color of law. That is tyranny in my book.
@@liamhenry3010ouch. Although I see your point. ..Many reasons of why we are here are because of irrational decisions in the past. At the time though, society thought them worth while endeavors, going against millennia of history. Birth control, changing marriage etc… But that’s where we are…as a studying classicist, I am often astonished looking around me. So much has gone wrong. I don’t see the west lasting much longer if they continue in his direction.
What a moron of a judge to let this application go through although it was 200 days out of time. What's the point of having a time limit if the authorities break it? The Australian Human Rights Commission is interfering with the right of the Australian parliament to create legislation.
Judicial activism Aussie style.
The same party in power now, Labor, created this problem, under our first female Prime Minister (a self proclaimed feminist) interestingly, and that party is very identity/gender politics driven, more so now than any regular person would of imagined. The govt. isn't looking to correct it.
If not him, someone else. This needs to go through the courts to set the record straight.
The human rights commission is now t a court. It is a tribunal and basically an ideological capture.
It might have been they them.
Aussie here, this is the first I’ve heard of this case. Absolute radio silence in the media. You need to have the VERY BEST LAWYER POSSIBLE! This case NEEDS to be won! it will set a global precedent one way or another. And I hope, as all other ‘adult human females’ on the planet, you win.
90% of all adult men want her to win as well. It's detrimental to society's survival that delusions can never be precedent to reality. If this case is lost in favor for inclusion and 'discrimination' the can of worms is opened and theres nothing we can not do and get away with it. It'd be discrimination to not accept a perpetrators view.
I only found out about this last night from comedian Isaac Butterfield
As a Canadian, you're right about global implications!
I’m always surprised that so many people are afraid of less then 1% of the worlds population
@@nonwonderful18 *maaaaaaaaaaaaaaassive eyeroll*
Sall Grover speaks brilliantly! She's totally across this topic. A great Australian woman!
She is not a criminal and yet shes treated as one. This is what totalitarianism looks like. Rational people need to resist and push back this should not be allowed. Heinous
No matter what men wearing girls clothes come up with I will always be sane and tell the truth
So will i
I wouldn't right off Labor introducing enforced speech - making a new classification of hate speech. In any regard, I'm not lying for complete strangers, nor should I or anyone be punished for mistaken identity born out of confusion and/or delusion.
I'm in Australia, and this is the first I have heard of this. You would think at least a current affair would report this. Frightening.
@SuperBOOKNUT "I"m in Australia..." The Guardian published a short article a couple of months ago. Can you imagine the pressure Judge Broomwich will be under in writing his Judgment. If Grover wins, I imagine it'll go to the High Court which is now showing an activist instinct eg Love and Thoms - Aboriginal Australians are not “aliens” for the purpose of the constitution and cannot be deported .
I firmly believe that the best way to fight this is to ask "what is a man?" You'll find that men will be far more aggressive in defending themselves
Australian women, we really need to protest in support of Sall. I’ve never protested in my life but my goodness do I feel we need to get our pickets out for this one.
For a lot of women, it’s hard to know where and how to start. I’ve joined as many women’s online groups as possible to start showing support 🇦🇺
Make a donation to her legal fund. Every little helps !
Every now and then I donate AU$10
I think unfortunately women are going to have to use their voices to protest and probably end up in jail in mass to stop this. They want to make it hate speech well consider us all guilty and come arrest us all. It took one woman stepping out IN front of the kings horse and being trampled for women to get women's rights. Maybe women need to stand up to these trans men and just let them beat us in our own bathrooms. They have threaten to do it, let them. Let the world see just who they are.
Not just Australian women but men too. Those who don't go into the women's spaces. But I believe this could be bigger than Australia alone.
WE HAVE to put a stop to this UTTER NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah we’re all with you mate but How? It’s all very well countless people saying that on social media but It seems Impossible by this point to tackle. Woke narcissistic people who go against common sense and Reality seemed to have infiltrated every organisation and company In the West by this point! It may be too late to “put a stop to this Utter Nonsense”!
Go after the politicians that enact these laws, the politicians are the problem, hold them accountable.
Agreed 100000000000%.
you can't, and your children or grandchildren will live beside trans people and the whole world will accept them, and there is nothing you can do about it. every medical institution in the world has already accepted trans people and so have most people in developed countries.
Udder Madness😂
Don't let anyone take our rights away a 65 yr old woman here i fought so hard my whole life for the right to have boundaries.
This woman needs to be supported in every way possible globally to defend women's rights and safe places.
"To the privileged, equality feels like oppression." Myron Gaines
A man saying "I am a woman" is NOT a woman. We don't have Harry Potter magic spells here.
Neither is he if he takes a couple of drugs.
Nor is he if he has some elective surgery.
How someone FEELS does not change what they ARE.
@Avondale.1694 That too. I just mentioned one direction, because that is what is causing most visible problems currently - with men competing in women's sports and wanting to volunteer in women's shelters and rape crisis centers.
To be clear - I have no problem with someone looking, dressing, sounding and behaving how they want. My problem is with people claim that their presentation replaces biological reality.
I have phobias, I'm human. Predators like crocodiles, sharks, scammers, pedophiles, leftist and corrupt politicians, trans people and many others. You know, those things that can destroy you and your family in the twinkling of an eye. Invite them in and you are gone. Would you invite a known thief into your house ?
the same ...obviously.
I'm just glad I grew up in a time where facts were more important than anyone's feelings. And the sooner we get back to that, the better we will all be.
@@MadScientist267🤞being hopeful but fingers crossed this madness ends soon enough.
This opens a can of worms when a trans woman demands that gynecologist treat them. Please tell me how a gynecologist can treat a man? When does the madness end?
I have been aware of the transgender agenda for 20 years or so. Even about 15 years ago, a "transwoman" went to the gynecologist for a pap smear. No amount of "trans" surgery makes a cervix. They are completely out of touch with reality.
They can't even understand that I don't have to try to be a man I just am. It's not something that I even need to identify as because I just am a man.
Love to see one trying to sue the gynocologist for shoving a spetulum up their little friend ...
Transwomen are encouraged by surgeons to see a gynecologist both before and after surgery. Many, but not all of the concerns present for cisgender women are still relevant for transwomen post surgery.
@@psych_girl_8225How so? No uterus no or ovaries = no actual female bits that a gynecologist could help them with. It’s a pantomime to visit the gynecologist with no actual working female organs
About 15+ years ago I was in a women’s group “Lynx”. After accepting one transgender man in who said he was a lesbian, this person was very radical, wanted more transgendered (with or without surgery) in the group, wanted to control an on line profile and so “bossy” that arguments ended up, people walking out every meeting and this group that started years ago, CLOSED.
This feminist is a hypocrite she would not think twice about pushing her way into men's clubs and spaces I think she is just another man hater that wants it all her way in my opinion if the heat is too much for you find an island somewhere and call it no mans land 😅😅😅😅😅
What a bummer. Good example of the need for clear boundaries!
Im so glad this amazing woman isnt afraid to use her voice and stand up and say no. Because no means no. We as women shouldn't have to appease to men just like men shouldn't have to appease women. Get out of our spaces we have enough dangers in the world without this crap being forced on us
The Gender Recognition Act - or more accurately, The Predator's Charter.
Excellent comment
Absolutely
Exactly. Well said.
Always say "Oh you mean the predators charter"
👌
I've been following this case for a while and I want Sall to know she has so much support and we are all rooting for her - she HAS to win this case..!
She won't be allowed to win , corrupt judges working for corrupt government 😢
I live in Adelaide, Australia. I've never heard of this woman or app before. She is right no information is shared properly. The media is so politically sensored the public isn't even aware it's done.
We had a guy at work (not transitioning or anything like that, just a straight up cis man) come into our women’s shower block and stand there perving on one of my female colleagues whilst she was trying to dry herself and get dressed. She reported him. He then claimed he identifies as female. HR gave her “sensitivity training”. I got pulled into the office by my OH&S rep, who was extremely concerned about my safety, who told me what had happened. The OH&S and the union can’t do anything about it due to the current political climate. Now apparently we are expected to go and have our showers and put up with the men coming in and watching us and have no legal right to complain.
This is what these trans extremists are causing. Putting biological women in massive danger. Taking away our rights and safe spaces.
It is a sad state of affairs that to learn about something so important happening in my own country I had to watch an interview happening in a country on the opposite of the world.
Australian media has betrayed its own readers once again
The SUN (U.K. news) sometimes contains the truth about what is happening in the U.S. that we won't hear in the MSM here... Sometimes the BBC has something as well.
the exact same thing is happening in America with out bought and paid for globalist corporate ownded and controlled media. It's all propaganda at this point and it will twist and pervert the minds of the masses and turn them into obedient zombified slaves if this goes on unchecked. Pretty wild time to be alive.
We wanted a challenge and we got one. If we don't stand up and fight back we will get whatever the elite want to shove down our throats. Our children will all be born into this woke insanity and slavery and will be unable to do a damn thing about it. Time to make some noise people!!! Time to exercise our freedom while we sitll have some left!
I’m a man. I fully support this lady every step of the way. We must fight back against this idiocy.
Thank you for saying that. Sally's points: The minute a person says they are a trans woman it means that they are male... the prerequisite is that they are male. The ONLY people benefiting from trans ARE the men pretending to be women. Everyone else is harmed. It totally takes away biological women's rights, safe places, and sports. It's ONLY predators who want to walk into female-only spaces. Women have no more protections.
I'm from Tranada. And I sincerely hope that this brave woman wins her case, because otherwise, we're doomed because of a handful of clowns. Civilization has always been based on reason. And going against basic common sense is what drove the greatest empires to their final doom, History tells us.
I’m Australian. First I’ve heard of this. It hasn’t been covered ANYWHERE.
Gender Identity explained…… “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” Martin Luther, Jr.
There are ZERO cases of sis-women being attacked by trans-women. .. There are cases of sis-men PRETENDING to be transgender!.. Sexual assaults against sis-women are reportedly (1 in 5) ... were as, sexual assaults of Trans-women, is reportedly more than half @ 66% (1 in 2). ... so we should protect the less vulnerable and throw trans-women to the wolves... right? .....Demonize trans-women for the crimes of others.
Great comment from Martin Luther Jr
Exactly right. Everyone knows "what a woman in." It is just the enablers, profiteers and cowards who refuse to acknowledge it. They corrupt language to hide the truth. "Gender Affirmation" is exactly the opposite. The term actually describes Gender Camoflage and an Intervention of Gender Reality Denial. Gender Affirmation, in reality, should be explaining that mammals cannot change sex. Gender 'Transition' is simply the nonsense of Gender Pretending. We all know it.
It's Australia's turn at out Americing America. I'm seriously embarrassed and really annoyed. And to top it right off... Sall had to go overseas to be heard !!!!!!!!
THAT IS EVEN BETTER TO SHAME AUSSIE GOVERNMENT.
She is going to have an international peoples help . GO GO GO GIRL 👏
Women like Sall needs to investigate WHOS financing this trans, gays activists…
This globalists are trying to divid society and put us all against each other .
America is a big country. Thankfully I have the good fortune to live in a less woke (for now) part of the country
Astounding isn't it? Media wide blackout, a Government deciding this without any involvement from the citizenry & Small Grover having to fight this on her own...& As you pointed out, having to go os to be heard by anyone..🤬🤬
Sall Grover is a hero (heroine). All good men support her and commonsense in this case. I will follow it closely as best I can. Good Luck Sall.
A high school student in California spoke out after a trans fight at her school last year. Her message was Epic with millions of views. She was also interviewed by Fox Newsroom. She emphasized "girls down to our DNA, women spaces, etc.". She gave us hope.
I'm in Australia and this was complete news to me. To call the Australian mainstream media and political parties as hostile is accurate allbeit perhaps generous. There's a level of negligence , cowardice and complicit behaviour involved that is a disservice to the Australian community.
Same here. We need to share it around
It's their lack of any comment that makes it obvious that they are too scared to debate the issue.
Haven't heard of it in Australia. Listening to the ABC Radio most of the day, but I haven't heard a thing about this. Hardly surprising. If fiveaa radio heard of this, I'm sure they would have raised it.
@@K-bq3lv I used to listen to the ABC for years. But I don't bother anymore. I call it "g..A..y..B.C' ..every morning they talk about it..I'm over it..
It's gone nuts in the last 5 years in Australia
We are now behind the UK and Scandinavia who are stopping the medicalisation of kids and young adults
Where are the men on this case, let’s start defending the woman’s spaces, do you really want your daughters and your wives living in fear of the predators.
Feminism created this problem. Victim culture, intersectionality, DEI etc are all branches of a tree rooted in the early feminist movement., which itself was perverted by marxism as a long term wedge. Didn't they say women need men like fish need a bicycle? Men have been told for so long that women are powerful, women are girl bosses, women don't need no man and men are the root of all evil, that they just don't even bother when women come begging for help.
I wish it were different, but women got what they wished for. You wanted to be treated equally, well this is it, now almost everyone get's treated like crap apart from a few minority classes at the top of the intersectional stack. Be careful what you wish for I guess.
Who is asking?
The men who would help have been villainized and silenced by radical feminists and the social justice gang. So it’s a tad rich you are asking where the men are on this.
Where the hell do you think “ the men are”. Totally emasculated and suppressed by the feminists. Now the monster they created is coming back to bite them. Where are The Men? Watching…waiting for the women who caused this insanity to be held to account.
It's the speedo files trying to capture the bin lids in schools that is the most important .
Women have all the agency and leverage that men do. Women have got this. Good luck 😊
So lawyers will represent Roxanne even when out of time but no one will represent my kid against the education system for having his head stomped on in school causing constant seizures ruining our lives. I will never accept a man in womens spaces
If alcoholism is a protected disease, if gender disphoria is a protected ailment, how is transphobia not also protected?
I am full blown transphobic, where is my safe space?
Good point. Shouldn't any phobia be a mental health diagnosis.
How utterly appalling that law in Western countries has come to this.
As Helen Joyce keeps saying transgenderism should be regarded as religion not science.
Yes, a sick cult!
No it's an ideology. Religions are tax exempt, don't give them that as well!!
Ah Helen Joyce, who was seen reading HP fanfic porn on the train.
Unfortunately, people saw this coming. We were warned. Redefining marriage was a door to redefining sex. Is feminism its own worst enemy?
I’m wouldn’t call bodily mutilation and mental disease a religion either.
There was a time when women who wanted to play sports were forced to create their own women based sports. Look how well that worked. No one is stopping trans to create their own teams. Why don’t they? It’s the power they want to inflict on women.
As an Australian male I give full support to Sall Grover and to the Giggles app. I hope that the courts see in her favour. This trans movement needs to be stopped.
This is incredibly scary for women! Thank you for fighting this battle !
Our only female Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, flippantly gave away our women's rights when she was PM. Not one PM since, has had the guts to restore them. Sally is a dead set legend, representing women in Australia and the world. She has a lot of support from women here, but not from the media or in fact, our male dominated government. I am so glad she is in London, speaking up for ALL WOMEN, no matter where they live in this world. Love and support Sal, in your upcoming court case to bring back sense and sensabilty to what a woman is and that we wont be silenced or erased, by men in dresses.
What exactly did Julia Gillard do?
@@Celisar1 made changes to the anti discrimination laws to remove mention of sex and replace it with something ambiguous along gender ideology lines.
Gillard, enthusiastically supported by all her ALP cohorts (including numerous women still in power today) passed this country's most misogynistic (& the most misopedic) legislation in our entire history - enacted in law on January 1, 2013. Of course she (& her, still in power female cohorts) is behind destroying our (women) rights & safety today
And I will never forgive her for it..🤬😡
Australians are in complete darkness concerning this issue/story ... the British and the world know more about it ! How come ?
Is there a gofundme. I've had enough of these bullies. True transgender women do not try to eliminate women's rights. So regressive.
Yes there is! I've donated
Crowdfund link in the description.
This is bizarre. I live in Australia and this is the first I've heard of this case.
Sky Australia have covered it.
It’s all over Twitter and women’s groups. Sky Australia as well
Because aside from Sky no mainstream media has covered it - not even the ABC. Like with most of the issues around the erosion of women's sex-based rights there is a media blackout. Many people are still in the dark as a result
You won't hear anything on the ABC that challenges the new religion.
Very few people have heard of it because mainstream media won’t cover it. Tell everyone you can.
Best wishes Sall .. as a Kiwi woman there are many who agree with you 100%. Stay strong and beat these regressive gender attitudes .. so many young lives will be impacted by this court decision.. how can we follow and support you?
It's wrong very wrong. This attack on women is unacceptable. Women must stand against this in unity.
I will never accept these men mocking woman!
Hope you win! I'm an Australian women and am sick of this s hit.
she's forced to spend possibly north of a MILLION to defend herself. what's the cast to the dude that raise the complaint. absolutely ridiculous that a government can do this to the citizens?
Well if a war starts and the government starts calling up young men to fight, I will be advising my sons to become my daughters and just stay at home.
Great to see pushback against this nonsense. Kep fighting the good fight.
The thing with this for Aussies, is that the vast majority of us have not had any say in these changes. I would think that we would stand up for our rights and vote yes and no to these so called laws. If we have to obey them, then we have the right to vote for/against them!
Have you actually seen the guy that's suing Sall? Total AGP creep, no-one in their right mind would think he's in any way a woman in a million years. The entitlement of these men is unbelievable.
it is not about reality, it is about politics, power, control
Kind of sucks because it would be nice if women would just keep him and others like him. We don't want them either.
Her arguments are BS!
On other matters prostate cancer is a growing problem amoung women😅
Yeah but that's point isn't it? It's not up to women to deal with these creeps. @@rickclark7508
@@rickclark7508maybe u guys could reel your bros in, instead of leaving women to deal with them.
This gutsy woman is to be greatly admired!!
My favorite line so far in this interview… A good man would not even think to go into a women’s only space!
Amen!!!
The judges in Australia should state that if the government want to change the constitution they should conduct a referendum. This happened in Eire.
After Brexit and the Irish referendum Govts don't want referendums.
@@amazer747they hate the idea of real democracy.
Should have added brave girl @ best of luck😊
@@amazer747 they may not, yr probably right, but I thot they had no choice but to give the ppl their say when they wanted to change something as important as a constitution. That is certainly the case in Ireland.
Where is Eire?
I worked in waste disposal, I now realise I’m qualified to treat these people.
What time are we meeting up? ❤️✝️
I am with you
Court is very stressful. Keep your head up Sall as you have a lot of support. We are all proud of you. History will have your name up there alongside Emily Pankhurst.
Bless.
As an Australian man I fully support Sally Grover and sincerely hope she wins this case. We should not be forced to recognise and support another persons delusions.
We've lost our minds. Men can't be women, women can't be men. If we can't get past that fact then how can we function?
We stop playing the game
Sure they can. And you can be any skin color you want, any age you want, any nationality you want, and any social status you want.
Just identify as a black indian woman of age 18 that is a princess. If they don't accept you, they are the horrible people.
@@linusgustafsson2629 insanity rules.
It is incredible how fast and how far you can go, once you abandon God's created categories and purpose for humanity, isn't it?
@@brettschlee7090 As there isn't any categories from that imaginary fairy it is moot.
I'm a bloke and I support Sall Grover and the safe space created for women. You go gurl...
Do you support the re-establishment of private men’s spaces that were taken away from us by law because of women throwing tantrums during the 80s?
@@gmtime5439 Yeah. why not?
@@admincpt5947 finally someone who I agree with on the internet. Bring back mens spaces - cigar rooms, private clubs, men only gyms etc.
@@gmtime5439 yep
@@gmtime5439 Men's clubs weren't 'safe places for men', they were establishments where men excluded women because of their own chauvinistic beliefs. There is a huge difference.
Power to you Sal at Giggle!! You have become a voice for women on the planet and you have us all behind you girl! I agreed with everything you said - especially changing room stuff …I will donate and I shall share this podcast. Blessings on it and have faith you can win. It’s not that women need to win and dominate is it? We are simply wanting our natural boundaries to be respected. Gender - balance and acceptance is what the planet needs to achieve and we will achieve it with string advocates like you!
I am Australian and live in the state of Queensland. We have self ID laws in our State now so any man can stand outside a women's space, declare himself a woman and enter legally. Recently I was travelling through a rural area and stopped to use the public rest rooms at a large truck stop. This was a fairly lonely area so I was already feeling a little nervous about stopping there but what made me feel even worse was that when I walked up to the toilet block there were six toilets and five of them were marked Unisex. One was marked "Male'. One of the Unisex toilets was also marked 'Disabled & Parents". There was not one toilet designated for women only. I could understand if there was only one toilet. But six? Why could they not designate at least one toilet for women when they managed to designate one just for men? Surely it is women who are most vulnerable in this situation? As a woman who was attacked in a public toilet as a teenager, it is very confronting to see women only spaces disappearing and Sall is right; No decent man would enter a woman's space and all of the men I know who are solid, good men, would never dream of doing so. The only men you're going to see there are auto-gynophiles, predators, perverts and misogynists. Happily, I have solid martial arts fighting skills but even with the knowledge that I can competently defend myself and do some grievous damage to an attacker, I am still hyper-aware in public rest rooms knowing that I could find myself alone in an isolated space with a man. God help the women who do not have these skills but hey, as long as we are protecting the feelings of mentally ill perverts, then it's all ok. Too bad for the terror women and children experience when they have to risk their safety, privacy and even their lives by using one of these spaces.
Please list where this place is, so it can be avoided, for public safety. And to allow people to lobby the authorities responsible for those public spaces - so that public pressure can be applied to address this.
Sure @@Janna773 It is a large truck stop around Helidon Spa on the Warrego Highway on the way to Toowoomba. It only happened a few days ago. I am going to write to the Council about it. I think it is the Lockyer Valley Council but I have to confirm that. I was truly shocked. Why do men get a Male toilet and yet women get nothing?? We are being completely erased. Shame on them! Also, I have heard that Redcliffe Council have made all of their toilets Unisex but I have not confirmed this. I will be checking this next time I am in the area.
As a Christian woman in Australia I support you 100%. This whole trans movement is over the top, woman need to feel safe in their own spaces. Best wishes.
There are ZERO cases of sis-women being attacked by trans-women. .. There are cases of sis-men PRETENDING to be transgender!.. Sexual assaults against sis-women are reportedly (1 in 5) ... were as, sexual assaults of Trans-women, is reportedly more than half @ 66% (1 in 2). ... so we should protect the less vulnerable and throw trans-women to the wolves... right? .....Demonize trans-women for the crimes of others.
So was suffrage.
@@lizcollinson2692 thank you!
Please, if you haven’t done so, donate to their Crowdfunding page. They are at about $350k of their $500k target.
@@lizcollinson2692 Not really the same thing, trans women are still men, no laws can change that.
If you can, please donate to this woman. She never asked to be a hero, but here she is all the same.
Sorry, but I'd need to get a lot more info on her. Unfortunately many of these women who are not a victim of marxists, woke bureaucracy, culture-warrior weirdos, sexists, etc. have themselves been that earlier. I'd need to know a lot more about her to know I'm not supporting a man-hating leftist looney against other hate-filled leftist loonies, who will then come after me again when this case is over.
She has all the hallmarks of being a leftist looney being a feminist, being LGBTQwhatever, having lived in L.A., being an 'activist', supporting MeToo, etc.
I support the cause, I also support female-only dating apps etc., but I'd not be prepared to send her money without more assurances.
I watched her go through this in real-time. From being kind to transwomen and thinking they could coexist on Giggle, to realising that she'd stepped on a hornet's nest when the TRAs came after her, to now. I have a huge amount of respect for her for standing strong on this issue.
Please, I can't find the link to donate. I'm not very technical. Can you please put it in response to this comment. 🙏 Thank you
No thanks. She'd probably go off and use it to support some feminist mee too cause.
This probably needs to fail. We have to hit rock bottom before things will get better.
@@1Mutton1 LMAO. She's going to court in a couple of weeks.
You are doing a great service for all real women….thank you for all your hard work …I wish you well and hope you win
What a sensible women.This is very scary for all women.
She had it right when she said good men ie(normal men) would respect female spaces such as bathrooms, changing rooms etc. It is very simple or it certainly should be and has been for most civilized cultures for eons.
No, women had to fight for women's public bathrooms and we've only had this for a short time.
The vast majority of people on Earth know you are right, Sall.
Hello from Costa Rica. This is a major issue in most of Western civilization, and some countries are almost ALMOST lost. But we must never give up fighting for what's right!
Thanks for your work and know that you're not alone! ❣💪❣💪
Never heard of this , geez the mainstream media don’t want anyone to know
What is a woman? - well this lady is! Well done.
a woman is an adult FEMALE , ladyboys do not adhere to this
I know what a woman is......I have no use for any government or politician or law that tries to convince me otherwise.
All we know, is what isn't a woman.
For example breast sizes like A-cup, is a child, not a woman. Breast sizes C-cup and up, are not women but sex objects. Only B-cup women count as women, and that is what they are putting in comics and video games.
A Human Adult Female....thats what a Woman is. 👍
I HAVE DONATED.. It is ESSENTIAL YOU WIN.... We all need to to be VERY AFRAID ... the reason Govs are supporting this can NOT be a GOOD ONE !!!!
You are well spoken and well informed. Thank you for sticking up for real women.
As an Australian man I can’t agree more with this woman! I hope 🤞 she can have every success in her life and her brave exposure of the Australian prison…..Ahem I mean the Australian government and its population and police forces!!!!
Tranada! I love it! Keep up the fight. I have no desire to walk into a woman's bathroom. Canadian here, ashamed.
This is just crazy. She has to be put through this for a guys mental issues and we are all just to accept his factual lie. This is like she said worse than flat earther’s
Worse than flat earthers, flat earthers don't claim you are killing the planet if you fail to validate it as flat.
How could any genitalia be a threat ONLINE? if you believe transwomen not to be women just because they FEEL like they are, then you also must admit that FEELING unsafe doesen't mean that there IS any reasonable factual threat.
Checkmate.
Man and woman. Don't make it complicated. When did people get so crazy?
Basically, this means any man can claim to be a woman just to get on the app. Sick.
I am trans and transitioned in the early 90's and I support Sall Grover to the fullest. I and many others are not activists and just want to live our lives in peace.
I am also Transsexual and support Her 100%, Men need to stay out of Women’s Spaces, the planet fitness photo had me seeing Red! Go shave in the men’s bathroom! 🤷♀️
Thank you, we need your voices as well. Please speak up so that these vital voices get squashed.
"Transition" is not a thing... you play dressup and engage in self mutilation...
Thank you @user…we all need your support in this …to protect all rights.❤
Personally I don't know any trans person but I can still see how harmful it is to the real trans community...you have fought for so much and those egotistical (insert whatever word you prefer right here) are ruining it for people like you... at least that's the way I see it
This lunacy must stop. It's sick and sordid
Go after the politicians that enact these sick laws......they are the problem.
as Spain has been used as an example I feel compelled to give context. from 2004 we have a pack of laws sinergyzing each other over gender violence:
-it only applies when a man agredes his female partner (gay couples and female to male violence get excluded,it's an "author crime")
-the "victim" can sue WITH NO OTHER PROOF THAN HER WORD and only phisical evidences can unprove it
-the "victim" can claim a pack of benefits around a lot of areas in life that have zero relation to the crime (can get a monthly check,a free college tuition,even extra points as if she were disabled when applying for a public bureaucracy job)
-he gets inmediately expelled from the home and can't see his children for years,while paying alemony
-in case of a false accusation,the woman faces nothing,only if the man after years of courts still wants to continue with a countersue,and he has to prove beyond doubt that she was doing it on purpose if he wants her to face charges (in theory the district attorney has to prosecute her,but doesn't,cause she's a poor woman)
-all of the above is paid by the taxpayer,the woman has the right of a free defense (even tho is a free attack)
-women have quotas and advantages towards getting jobs and promotions
-women and lgbtqt54aewi8+ have subsidies for professional projects
and many more things,there are around 500 laws that benefit women,majority of them for no reason. spain is a reverse handmaids tale state.
many of the men that changed gender with the new law made it to go full circle: getting their basic rights back. now they can have a fair trial,they are not guilty until proven inocent,they can have their kids back,they aren't denied a job they are qualified to instead of women who don't pass the phisical exams,and all of it legislated by the same parties that made the hell above a reality. OH THE IRONY
feminists made their bed and now they cry they have to sleep in it
Sounds like Spain is getting things worked out!
Men in India need to learn a thing from you guys!
What you described is the exact ground reality here
- men can't claim to be victim since courts said only men can commit several crimes
- men get arrested and convicted on mere words of women
- men still have to pay despite being the victim
- men get no compensation for false accusations
- men aren't allowed to be a part of several quotas
All while media claims how India is s patriarchal misogynistic country!
Could care less if feminists are being affected by anything, they've made this world a living hell for men and are merely starting to receive the same favour