Creating this video was really interesting to me. Besides the obvious fact that a tragedy is a tragedy no matter what, do you think female climbers are judged more harshly than male climbers when things go wrong?
I think they're judged for their claims like the vegan climber and not because they're women. I feel she refused to listen to advice from her sherpaas because she had an agenda she wanted to prove.
I think some male climbers are afraid they could be outdone by a female. As long as a climber is fit and properly equipped, the mountain (not the other climbers), will , or at least should, decide who climbs it or not.
Reaching the summit is pointless unless you survive to tell the story. 🤷♀️ Women get more harshly judged when they are involved in ANYTHING that goes wrong... they are ALWAYS singled out as the "weakest link" in some way or other. Even if it is not true, the male dominated/owned media will ensure a WOMAN is blamed where possible. 😢
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I think that too - except when I hear, 'they died doing what they loved most'. Being an artist, I get that (dying doing what you love, being an eternal part of what you love. There's just too much garbage on these magnificent mountains - corpses are an insult to injury. The romance flees when I think of people turning Mt. Everest into a garbage dump and an ego graveyard.
A lot of these stories are filled with false information. You can’t believe anything you hear on line anymore. Most of the time even the truth is shrouded in lies, like these stories
I kinda agree with this. There should be a barrier to entry, some kind of test. People think they can get to the top with pure willpower like Hal Jordan.
@@lf67hh28 would you mind just stfu if you have no clue? Thank you. There are MINIMAL physical testing to get a permit and no testing if you have the necessary skills. But hey nice to boost your ego trying to Sound smart on TH-cam despite not knowing anything, huh?
I have a brother from the Indian Army who summited the Mount Everest.He is the fitest person I know.He told me that his body almost gave up, it felt as the mountain was squeezing the life out of him.He almost gave up until he saw bodis of other dead climbers left as markers..he immediately determined that we will not become another marker....
People with children, male or female, have no business climbing peaks like Everest. Firefighters, police, search and rescue, all risk their lives for good reason. Climbing a mountain just to say you did it, is not a good reason to leave kids with no parent.
Police , firemen, military etc is ok, because you may need them to help you & risking their life for you or your loved one is ok. However, if one risks their own life for their own satisfaction, they shouldn't do it. Pretty narcissistic & shelfish .
People put themselves and others at risk for much less on a daily basis. Statistically climbing Everest is safer than driving in the U.S. with all the drunk and distracted drivers 🤫 might as well live a little before you die
People put themselves and others at risk for much less on a daily basis. Statistically climbing Everest is safer than driving in the U.S. with all the drunk and distracted drivers 🤫 might as well live a little before you die
Shria had no business being on Everest. She didn’t even know how to put on crampons when she got to base camp. So yeah, she can get up the mountain. But that’s not “doing it”. Not making it down, begging for help in her dying hours, and finally being abandoned to a long, terrifyingly slow agonizing death, is proof she could NOT do it.
Most I would be on is at base camp, or at most Camp 1, but no more. Just getting on Everest itself is already something when even a vast majority of people have not even come near it.
@@emptysociety7707well, I can see you are an idiot. Have you ever been a mother? Have you ever been a father? If you haven’t been both, then you can’t compare and you have no idea what you are talking about. Obviously both men and women love their children at different levels. Case in point this mountain climber! Don’t criticize a woman for “not loving her children enough” then saying “mothers love their children more” you are literally contradicting yourself! If women *should* love their children the most I. Their lives, then so *should* men.
@@emptysociety7707😂😂😂😂 my half sister almost suffocated her child. My cousin's wife hurt and neglected her son in favor of her daughter. I grew up with my narcissistic mother who blamed me for everything that went wrong in her life. You are hilariously wrong 😂😂😂😂
Far too many Nepali sherpas have died ensuring that wealthy westerners make it to the summit of Mount Everest, others have died trying to rescue injured climbers too weak to make it down safely unaided. It is not worth losing your life or endangering others' lives to reach the highest point on Earth. It is not worth leaving your children orphaned either.
stop with the victimhood and racism. Firstly, Sherpas do it for money as they make good money doing it and chose to do it. Secondly, people from all over the world climb everest, not just westerners.
stop with the victimhood and racism. Firstly, Sherpas do it for money as they make good money doing it and chose to do it. Secondly, people from all over the world climb everest, not just westerners.
People think that climbing Everest is a sport and not assisting ill climbers in the death zone is somehow an act of brutality. Climbing Everest IS an act of brutality - just ask Mallory or Irvine.
As cruel as it might seem, the reality is its the height of human athletic limits to carry yourself up and down that mountain, its impossible to drag someone else in that death zone.
I have no time or sympathy for modern day explorers and thrill seekers or people who row across the oceans and climb without ropes or high risk climbers .The people who try and rescue them who have families and loved ones of their own are the real hero's. The Sherpas / Coastguards / Pilots / Doctors / Mountain rescue teams / they have my respect .As for the thrill seekers I shed not a single tear for any of them .
Maybe you’d think differently if your Son or Daughter, Grandchildren came to you telling you they had a passion for climbing and wanted to make their dreams come true…..
@@WildScotAurora well it's all about opinions .my issue are all sensible people the kind who make society a good place.If they want to take risks at least do something useful to mankind like Space exploration and pathfinding for the future survival of humans .
There are professional mountaineering like professionals in other sports. But many people today have no experience or business climbing these dangerous mountains.
Frances went up the more difficult route WITHOUT OXYGEN. She started down from the summit on May 22nd but was unable to even reach Camp Four. Sergei died that night. She was alone on the mountain near her dead husband all that night, all the next day. A slow, agonizing decline doesn’t begin to describe her suffering. TWICE she was abandoned by other climbers who left her alone, silently screaming to not be left to die alone, after more than 24 hours of pure agony. THAT is NOT “doing what you love”.
@@qi1gland no one will remember your name since it's been done already. Unless you join the corpses. Then you can get to be another cautionary tale. 👻
I remember seeing a sign that locals put up on the mountain. It basically said, “please stop littering the mountain with your dead bodies.” Enough said.
Brings a whole other issue into play that is raised in the movie GI Jane about whether guys feel culturally obligated to save women... Despite this good on all climbers, male or female, for chasing the mountains.
@johndeer6543 • The even more tragic part of the Fran story, is that they were both, husband and Fran, reunited in a very short span of time. On the other side of life that is to say, in their afterlife. It is very sad indeed. The way the narration was progressing, we as listeners, were invested in Fran, pulling for her to pull through. All the while knowing, we were in fact, listening to what was surely to be Fran's demise. The husband's ill fate was so unexpected it seems like it was casually thrown in the story. It almost seemed like Everest took him as well, as a bonus. That part of the story, for sure, had an astounding shock effect on me.
Imagine living with the fact you left behind your wife and you made it to safety I also would rather die. He should have never separated from her. She was so strong she held out for so long.
The drone video that shows the crowded route to the top and all those cables and ladders dragged up there and installed to make success easier to achieve really brings it home that today's summit is nothing like the mountaineering feat accomplished by Mallory and Irvine who many believe were the first to successfully summit.
@@realityjunky Poor people are like that too. Millions living off the nipple of welfare and food stamps due to sheer narcissism, ego, and hate. But I digress. I get you.
The fact that there's not proper oxygen for us humans up there alone should steer people away... Something's God created are just meant to not touch and just admire
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I think the same opinion applies to underwater cave diving. Especially when the signs say, "Don't go any further. Death awaits." That's a paraphrase, of course, but the image of the grim reaper speaks volumes. Still, there are those who ignore the signs and experience disaster.
Shriya: I want to climb Everest, it' smy dream Sherpas: How much mountaineering experience do you have? Shriya: None, at all. But I run and go to a rock climbing gym Sherpas: Don't go Shriya: I can't keep up the pace Sherpas: Turn around Shriya: No, I can do it Sherpas: You are exhausted, turn around Shriya: No, I can do it Sherpas: You are suffering from altitute sickness, turn around Shriya: No, I can do it Sherpas: You will die if you keep going! Shriya: I DID I TOLD YOU I COULD! Sherpas: But you can barely walk! Shriya's last words: Save me Sherpas: We tried and tried and tried to, you wouldn't listen.
This mountain is meant to be challenged. Just with much more advanced equipment that for one thing fixes the problem of breathing. Not saying it wouldn’t still be perilous.
Everest is a sacred place where you cannot just "conquer" the Mountain gods. They decide if you make it. Local Nepali know this and hence pray for safe passage
Yep! If there's no oxygen getting to the optical nerve, it starts to die and blindness will happen! The body will prioritize which organs need oxygen the most and in a life or death situation, the eyes are not a priority
Yikes, that is bad, Never knew that. Tell me something else that I have so wondered. Do you think they sign a form or some agreement like for instance before the climb, like if you die on Everest, you stay there. Cos no bodies ever get brought down it seems.
@@sandyvanderlinde237 Yes, its explained to all climbers that's its pretty much every man/woman for themselves. Recover of the bodies is covered by the climbers life insurance, however a lot of the missing climbers are never found. Plus the conditions are usually too dangerous for the bodies to actually be brought back.
K2 is far more dangerous of a climb than Everest and claims more lives. I would like to trek to Everest base camp which is over 17,000 ft in elevation but not interested in traversing the Khumbu icefall to go any higher.
K2’s kill ratio is definitely worse than Everest, but Everest has killed more climbers. The reason for that is simple; far more people try to climb Everest.
More climbers may have died on the Matterhorn than any other mountain. It is estimated that over 500 alpinists have died on The Matterhorn, a relatively small mountain at only 14,685ft in the Swiss Alps, making it the deadliest mountain in the world for climbing.
@@johnelliott8630Matterhorn is far more accessible than all the other mountains mentioned here, especially K2, therefore much more people try to climb it, hence the overall higher number of deaths. It's still pretty damn scary though considering how steep it is, that thing is shaped like an harrow 😳
I went to Pikes Peak and suffered vertigo and weakness due to the lack of oxygen at that height. No thanks been there done that and won't be going back.
@@theimaginist3310yeah but if you calculate the percentages k2 is way more deadly for how hard and dangerous it is it’s a very technical climb , one small mistake ends your life. It’s like 1 in 4 chances of death.
When it comes to mount Everest. It doesn't matter how experienced or determined you are, if you can see the warnings. Go back down and you will live to fight another day.
Once again, some punk kid blanket labeling people narcissist's without ACTUALLY knowing the definition or knowing ANYTHING about the people they're labeling....pathetic
1st story: she was practicing, exercising, aclimatizing, eating special diet ... and then she stumbled and fell.... 2nd story:she wanted to prove vegans can trive, but than she died and proved the opposite! 3rd story: she conquered all 7 peaks. And than she died. Before she could even celebrate! 4th story: she thought conquering MtEverest without suplemental oxygen was a big deal. The big deal would be conquering it while holding breath! The consequences would be the same... 5th story... "she wasn't content with the ordinary", so she died on Everest. Content, I hope? Last one... pfffffttttt....she could do it... she could do it... she could do it....untill she couldn't..
I noticed that they all have something to prove. Women can do it. Vegan can do it. Can do it without oxygen tank. Can do it because I feel like I can do it. What's next? A trans-woman can do it? A non-binary person can do it? They all seem very arrogant and wouldn't take "No" for an answer.
German climber Hanalor Schmuts made it to the peak on Everest and almost as soon as she started her decent she sat on her backpack and died. Her body stayed right next to the path to the peak so everyone could see her. She was finally blown off the mountain. It was a truly tragic story. I typed this before Hanalors story so disregard
I remember Marti as being a tram operator at Snowbird, UT. I was in awe of her every time I rode the tram. I also remember the sadness that encompassed the Snowbird community at the time of her loss. May she have had many powder filled turns in the sky as our world passes on.
She’s about to do something very few women have done, die an excruciating death in God forsaken loneliness, silently screaming to be saved and slowly realizing in terror that no help can reach her. Stupid is as stupid does.
The saddest part of Marty Hoey's death is that it was caused by the simplest mistake a climber can make. She did not double buckle her harness belt. The belt did not fail, Marty just made a high altitude mistake. Proof of this is in the video at 6:44 to 6:45 (footage from the original video). You can plainly see Marty's harness is just single buckled with the tail hanging down instead of being threaded back through the buckle.
Everest is not the most challenging 8000 metre mountain in the Himalayas, there are 14 of them of which Annapurna and K2 are considered the most challenging… Everest is simply the highest and not so technically difficult, which is why it attracts so many “tourist” class climbers. That is not to say it is not dangerous or easy to climb. It is obviously a very risky endeavour, there are technically challenging areas, hostile weather and thin air … and hundreds of punters standing in line all roped together (madness imo) and I really pity the porters and Sherpa’s, ill clad and ill equipped in comparison to the paying clients and poorly paid who endure hell incessantly required to climb up and down to fix ropes, erect tents, short rope ill prepared and inept clients and attempt to rescue folk in horrendous weather conditions. Imo, no one should set foot on any mountain unless they are prepared to die there and are actually competent climbers. This is not a day out at a Disney side show.
Nanga Parbat is up there with Annapurna I and K2. The challenge would be to conquer the more difficult mountains (Denali isn't easy either) rather than choosing by height.
Ughhh that last story is just so aggravating. EVEREST was her “life long dream” yet she never went mountain climbing at all let along any of the 8000 meter peaks. But yeah, let’s do Everest! 👍 and she had soooo many signs that said she was not going to do well to the point where the best Sherpa in the group wouldn’t even take her past base camp!! Than she was verbally told to turn around, you don’t got this and she’s says I can it, I can do it. How do you now know your mountaineering limits when you never mountaineered! And the best was when she couldn’t go any further THAN she calls out to others “ help me, help me” THEY BEEN TRYING to help you by telling you you not to go that you showed to many signs that you were not going to make it. NOW she wants there help. 😡 Classic example of thinning the herd right there.
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I have sen many documentaies on the 1996 disaster and had yet to see such a detailed coverage on Yasuko Namba. At most, they say she worked in mail (with an almost implicit "she was just a mailwoman"), the lie that she was inexperienced and that she died by where Beck Weathers almost did. It is nice to know more of her. And to answer you question, at least with the coverage of the 96 disaster, they 100% are harsher to the women. While documentary makers put lots of compassion when talking about Doug (who should have turned back long before the storm), the several guides Andy, Scott or Rob (who were in charge of the main decisions), the implicit blame on Yasuko being supposedly inexperienced for the climb and explicit blame on Sandy Pittmann and the pressure the put on the teams with her book deal, implied spoiled behavior and internet communications (which isn't placed on Krakauwer and his own book) is heartbreaking. Those women there who aren't blamed are ignored, as Lena and Charlotte are almost footnotes on the story. And there's also a bit of iffy blame that to me seems more xenophobia on the lead of the vietnamese team Makalu Gao who kept on after being told of the loss of one of his teammates, painting him as callous; and to Anatoli Boukreev who gets more blame on going up without oxigen than for going out in the storm to find those lost in it several times. The tragedy is heartbreaking, but the way some of the survivors are painted as the guilty in the many documentaries since is downright painful. This people don't deserve the slander
These videos are SUPERBLY produced and the commentator speaks very well. Tragic as these stories are the videos are so well put together that they are a must to watch.
I have been as high as 17,000 feet - I was dizzy and miserable and it is one of the worst memories of my life (Chacaltaya glacier, Bolivia) - I was so dizzy and disoriented and fatigued that I almost slid over a cliff. We lived in La Paz at the time at around 11,000 feet.
I don't feel bad for anyone who died on Everest. I feel bad for all the loved ones they left behind because their suicidal dream was more important to them.
I do not get the attraction to going up a dangerous mountain just to say: “look at me! I made it to the top!” As if it somehow is a notable achievement. Ridiculous.
Fixed it for you...."Maria, driven by selfishness and narcissism ".......... She should never have continued....what an appalling act of utter disregard for others 😢
In my childhood years. I learned that climbing up was relatively easy. The REAL TOUGH Part was climbing back down. Yes, I fell a few feet and was hurt. However, lessons learned from climbing a tree in a public park.🤔
She HAD a wealth of wilderness skills. Skills that were completely useless on Mt. Everest. This is a stupid pursuit and only people who have everything to live for undertake. There is nothing impressive about doing this now that most people who try this pay exorbitant sums of money for the opportunity to do so. Just like everything else in the world, if you have enough money, you don’t need skills or intelligence to achieve that which is reserved for the most capable amongst us.
I cant relate to being prepared to lose your life to fulfill a dream but for some it seems to be worth the cost. Their dreams are more important than their lives. But there's nothing to dream about once you're dead. In the last case, she was only 33 yrs old! I think about her loved ones' heartache her dream also cost.
@@le13579 That's really stupid reasoning; disrespectful to cancer victims in fact. Dying of cancer is not a CHOICE people make; unlike these dangerous situations here.
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Many thanks to Extreme Edge Stories for a tasteful video about some of the women who attempted to climb Everest. Their stories are haunting tales that remind us all how precious and precarious life is. I really appreciate that you did not show any post mortem images of the people who lost their lives on the mountain.
So after watching this informative and touching video, I took it upon myself to check the Google and look at what type of deer is used to climb Mount Everest. I'm absolutely amazed at the gear that's used as some of the best ever made by some of these manufacturers . I just find it amazing that none of that clothing can't stop the cold
True bravery is to conquer evil and injustice in the world, not to climb a wall of ice fall and breaks your neck and pay a fortune for it, a fortune that can feed hungry pepole and pets
@@Hate_Tube_SLime hungry pepole not all of them can get a job, there are very poor countries with very poor people and many homeless kids, not all countries have a proper supportive system to the disabled, I call strays pets because they are supposed to be pets, hungry stray cats and dogs deserve better
Personally, I think its very selfish to do a climb like this...for what?? To say you did it?? If you want to do something monumental, use to money you'd spend on that trip to give someone lifesaving surgery, or build a home for a family, or buy poor seniors dentures!! Do something besides giving your family and friends heartache and leaving another body behind to slowly disintegrate.
I'm glad I don't have any mountaineering ambitions, sure it's nice to overcome Everest but I would rather overcome the mountains in my mind, they are more difficult
Who helps these poor sherpas who have to watch these people die? What kind of emotional help do they get? Do some give up climbing because of these experiences? I know they make really good money, but could any money be worth what this must do to your mind?
I am not trying to take anything away from the last climber (Shria) but I put some of the blame on Nepal. She had never climbed a mountain before that is part of the problem? She not only put her life in danger she put her Sherpas lives in danger. Even if Nepal gave her a permit the company that took her shouldn't have let her climb.
The problem is that the most Sherpas are doing this to get money. They don’t really care about the climbers, who overestimated their skills. We have the same problems with this „climbers“ in Switzerland. They don’t listen to the guides and trying to wander off to do their own thing. Some are lucky to be rescued and others are still lying there after their „great adventure“.
Commercial climbing on Everest should be a big freaking no no. You should have to have serious climbing experience and qualifications before you are allowed to attempt
You hear people say things like “if I die doing _____than at least I’ll die doing what I love” , &/or they say “yes it is” when asked if it’s worth dying for prior to setting off…all too often.🤨 But I just wonder if when they are in the moment and actually dying up there, if you asked them the same things as when they were safe and sound prior…would they still say that it’s worth it? I mean I think some would likely answer the same but im sure many would probably change their answers. Especially someone who’s situation is like the last woman’s, who are quite unexperienced…I wonder if they’d still believe that it’s worth it? I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say NO imo if they knew that they were actually going to die and it isn’t just a hypothetical possibility but instead an eventuality. Cause like seriously tho…if there’s one thing that basically every human being is good at…it’s convincing ourselves that “it won’t happen to me”, as we all do it every day, if we didn’t we’d all be recluses too afraid to leave our houses ffs!😉👍 Btw: I’m by no means, trying to come off like a giant douche here…I think everyone has the right to do what they wish when involving their own lives and I respect whatever endeavors they choose to embark upon. I’m just legitimately curious, that’s all. So sorry (not sorry) if someone else perceives it incorrectly as it’s not on me😅🤷♀️
No need to be a douche to think they probably regret it tbh. The number of people who plead to not be left alone or to be saved says one thing is what you think and hope and another is facing reality and feeling the agony your body is going through as you die.
I can only imagine it’s similar to having a baby! Some women go through agony during childbirth and swear that the pain is so excruciating, they never want to go through that again! And after giving birth, they “forget” about the pain and trauma and want to have another baby! Surviving Everest I think is like that, forgetting, all the trauma and pain and discomfort and wanting to do it again!
Some people claim it's worth it because for them it genuinely is. Others do because they're in love with the idea, not the activity itself. Death is certain the hour is not. I can die doing any number of the sports or activities that are considered high risk that i do. I can also trip down the stairs doing laundry and crack my head in and die that way. I can die being hit by a car (and honestly after the third time I was hit on the damn sidewalk that's more likely) or of my equipment giving out. I can slip and find the fastest way down the mountain or i could choke to death. If death is inevitable then I'd rather go out having lived my life to the max. If that means earlier that I would otherwise so be it. I will not abide living to 100 and having done fuckall with my life though. Sure I'd live longer but can that really be called living? Going through the same shit everyday until you die of sheer boredom. I've had my close calls. I've got enough metal in me now to count as a cyborg. I've had my head caved in by a horse and I've turned around on k2 to watch the group I passed not long ago presumably due to being right in the path get swept away in an avalanche just as I was leaving. But those are the risks. There's also a huge difference between accepting death as an option and accepting the risk of death.
Unless a person has a huge bulldozer and/or stockpile of explosives and flattens Mt. Everest, NOBODY can "conquer" the mountain; the best anybody can hope for is a draw.
This is why I don't feel bad for them. They wouldn't want you to anyway. This is what they wanted to do. They knew the risks and they knew that even if there are other people there, they can't expect anyone to help if they get in a bind due to the risk for their own lives.
Well, obviously none of them were cut out for it regardless of your efforts to eulogize them. Over inflated egos, abilities, and opinions of themselves would be the best summary
Pretty sad when it takes a "stranger" 10 years later but still a stranger is the only one that had a heart and took that woman off the mountain finally❤
It is one thing to die in an accident for from illness, but a totally different thing to do something knowing you have a big chance of dying. Life is too precious and fleeting to deliberately put one's self in that position.
In my opinion, Mt Everest should only be the pros... watching the one with the cleaning up of the camps and how many people were at the summit was insane. Alternatively, limit the number of people that can up. Even better, leave the mountain alone. Maybe she doesn't like all those people climbing all over her.
Accidents happen no matter the skill level. Pro or novice all have passed trying to climb this mountain. Which is entirely unnecessary. People spend tens of thousands of dollars to die on a mountain.
That was on Mount Lenin in the then Soviet Union. Sure, they thought they can prove women could climb that mountain. However, it sadly cost them their lives.
Every corpse you see or pass by on Mt. Everest was once a highly motivated person. Further below, the graveyards are filled with of indispensable people.
Your sacred life, any life, is far more important than anything, especially personal ambition. The warrior's journey in Toltec shamanic wisdom -- You versus death -- in no way leads to Everest.
To ignore ignore the most important thing in the service of life….. is not personal gain…… but it is serving in the service of life….. being a father a mother, a teacher not forfeiting it on private game or gain…! Responsibility in the service of life for life of those that we live with …. Knowing that our families depend upon us not to waste it chasing our own private self streams..
Creating this video was really interesting to me. Besides the obvious fact that a tragedy is a tragedy no matter what, do you think female climbers are judged more harshly than male climbers when things go wrong?
I think more than 90% of these people are mentally ill ..
I think they're judged for their claims like the vegan climber and not because they're women. I feel she refused to listen to advice from her sherpaas because she had an agenda she wanted to prove.
In a way, yes. Women who have children, especially, seem to be judged more harshly than fathers who get into trouble climbing the peaks.
I think some male climbers are afraid they could be outdone by a female. As long as a climber is fit and properly equipped, the mountain (not the other climbers), will , or at least should, decide who climbs it or not.
Reaching the summit is pointless unless you survive to tell the story. 🤷♀️ Women get more harshly judged when they are involved in ANYTHING that goes wrong... they are ALWAYS singled out as the "weakest link" in some way or other. Even if it is not true, the male dominated/owned media will ensure a WOMAN is blamed where possible. 😢
Is Everest worth leaving behind an orphan. I think not.
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I think that too - except when I hear, 'they died doing what they loved most'. Being an artist, I get that (dying doing what you love, being an eternal part of what you love. There's just too much garbage on these magnificent mountains - corpses are an insult to injury. The romance flees when I think of people turning Mt. Everest into a garbage dump and an ego graveyard.
@@Hate_Tube_SLime First of all SHE was brainrotten
@@ColleenLytle-sq8tx....."garbage dump and ego graveyard "....that summarize Everest pretty much
NOPE!
In my opinion, NO, reaching the Mt. Everest summit is not worth losing your life.
Thats why you will never be there
A lot of these stories are filled with false information. You can’t believe anything you hear on line anymore. Most of the time even the truth is shrouded in lies, like these stories
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@@NotDeadYETTTT 👍🏻
Amen. However, there many that do. If they think that their life is worth losing, then so be it.
Whenever I hear the words "mountain climber" and "fearless" in one sentence, the next word in my head is "dead".
agree
They would rather die from it. IDK it's their dream or ego.
. It's simple. They're nuts.
I think of stupid
I hear 'reckless and deluded'.
Desperately ill but still determined to push on. Mountain madness indeed.
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Imagine you prepare yourself and train for years to then be stuck behind someone who has no clue what they are doing. Then you die because of it.
I kinda agree with this. There should be a barrier to entry, some kind of test. People think they can get to the top with pure willpower like Hal Jordan.
It sure happens! The lines of climbers from years past is downright stupid!!
@@MaskedZoo There is intensive physical testing.
@@lf67hh28 would you mind just stfu if you have no clue? Thank you.
There are MINIMAL physical testing to get a permit and no testing if you have the necessary skills.
But hey nice to boost your ego trying to Sound smart on TH-cam despite not knowing anything, huh?
I have a brother from the Indian Army who summited the Mount Everest.He is the fitest person I know.He told me that his body almost gave up, it felt as the mountain was squeezing the life out of him.He almost gave up until he saw bodis of other dead climbers left as markers..he immediately determined that we will not become another marker....
Yep another dumbass indeed, hope he picked up his poop,probably not
Wow..smart too .. condolences to families of all fallen climbers
Good for him. But I never want to climb Everest
These bodies were not left there as markers. It's too dangerous to recover. It could cause more bodies if people tried to recover them
People with children, male or female, have no business climbing peaks like Everest. Firefighters, police, search and rescue, all risk their lives for good reason. Climbing a mountain just to say you did it, is not a good reason to leave kids with no parent.
I absolutely agree
So you are the new Gestapo muller.
Police , firemen, military etc is ok, because you may need them to help you & risking their life for you or your loved one is ok. However, if one risks their own life for their own satisfaction, they shouldn't do it. Pretty narcissistic & shelfish .
People put themselves and others at risk for much less on a daily basis. Statistically climbing Everest is safer than driving in the U.S. with all the drunk and distracted drivers 🤫 might as well live a little before you die
People put themselves and others at risk for much less on a daily basis. Statistically climbing Everest is safer than driving in the U.S. with all the drunk and distracted drivers 🤫 might as well live a little before you die
Shria had no business being on Everest. She didn’t even know how to put on crampons when she got to base camp. So yeah, she can get up the mountain. But that’s not “doing it”. Not making it down, begging for help in her dying hours, and finally being abandoned to a long, terrifyingly slow agonizing death, is proof she could NOT do it.
Right? Just because you tell yourself you can do it, doesn't mean you actually can.
People have got to know their limitations.
Sad but true. She did not belong there.
For anyone to attempt Everest or any equally high mountain and not practice by climbing other peaks is in my mind insanity
Chicks: Once a wild hair crawls up her ass, no amount of reasoning can ever help pull it out.
I can't imagine ever being there for any reason
You must live a very fulfilling life that’s good. I’m sure many have there own reasons
@@Watchthatleftyeah, they’re dumb. Only reason.
Amen.
Me too
Most I would be on is at base camp, or at most Camp 1, but no more. Just getting on Everest itself is already something when even a vast majority of people have not even come near it.
She was "doing what she loved the most"...sad that she didn't love her children the most. She's no hero in my eyes.
Agree!! My question why reproduce...live your life with freedom make that choice if that's ur passion
I hope you say the same about every popsicle father on the mountains.
@@karabeaner2145 not the same,a mother always love her childs more than any father so your comment doesnt make sense at all !
@@emptysociety7707well, I can see you are an idiot. Have you ever been a mother? Have you ever been a father? If you haven’t been both, then you can’t compare and you have no idea what you are talking about.
Obviously both men and women love their children at different levels. Case in point this mountain climber! Don’t criticize a woman for “not loving her children enough” then saying “mothers love their children more” you are literally contradicting yourself!
If women *should* love their children the most I. Their lives, then so *should* men.
@@emptysociety7707😂😂😂😂 my half sister almost suffocated her child. My cousin's wife hurt and neglected her son in favor of her daughter. I grew up with my narcissistic mother who blamed me for everything that went wrong in her life.
You are hilariously wrong 😂😂😂😂
Far too many Nepali sherpas have died ensuring that wealthy westerners make it to the summit of Mount Everest, others have died trying to rescue injured climbers too weak to make it down safely unaided. It is not worth losing your life or endangering others' lives to reach the highest point on Earth. It is not worth leaving your children orphaned either.
stop with the victimhood and racism. Firstly, Sherpas do it for money as they make good money doing it and chose to do it. Secondly, people from all over the world climb everest, not just westerners.
stop with the victimhood and racism. Firstly, Sherpas do it for money as they make good money doing it and chose to do it. Secondly, people from all over the world climb everest, not just westerners.
People think that climbing Everest is a sport and not assisting ill climbers in the death zone is somehow an act of brutality.
Climbing Everest IS an act of brutality - just ask Mallory or Irvine.
You can't help.
As cruel as it might seem, the reality is its the height of human athletic limits to carry yourself up and down that mountain, its impossible to drag someone else in that death zone.
Nope! Climbing any mountain is so not worth losing your life but especially if the top of the mountain is in "the death zone".
Death zone is 8,000 meters or more, only 14 mountains have a death zone it’s a race before time to get down because your body is literally dying.
Hearing "death zone" would make me turn back immediately or not go at all!!!
@@brendaduncan4347 me too
These tales demonstrate that Everest doesn't care about ones expertise , experience, determination or dreams !
No thanks I'm fine right here on my warm bed drinking my coffee
All who parished had a lifelong dream to see the summit. Winning the Lotto is my lifelong dream.
*That there ReaLLy IS a GOD, is My LiFeLong Dream!!!!*
So is the IRS's.
Watching TH-cam videos about those who died trying to climb mt Everest is my life long dream😮
Mine too!
@@Hate_Tube_SLimeno, there really isn't 😂
Not worth leaving your children orphaned...
I have no time or sympathy for modern day explorers and thrill seekers or people who row across the oceans and climb without ropes or high risk climbers .The people who try and rescue them who have families and loved ones of their own are the real hero's. The Sherpas / Coastguards / Pilots / Doctors / Mountain rescue teams / they have my respect .As for the thrill seekers I shed not a single tear for any of them .
Maybe you’d think differently if your Son or Daughter, Grandchildren came to you telling you they had a passion for climbing and wanted to make their dreams come true…..
@@WildScotAurora well it's all about opinions .my issue are all sensible people the kind who make society a good place.If they want to take risks at least do something useful to mankind like Space exploration and pathfinding for the future survival of humans .
@@WildScotAurora Very, very unlikely.
Its like naked dark soul run but in real life
There are professional mountaineering like professionals in other sports. But many people today have no experience or business climbing these dangerous mountains.
Frances went up the more difficult route WITHOUT OXYGEN. She started down from the summit on May 22nd but was unable to even reach Camp Four. Sergei died that night. She was alone on the mountain near her dead husband all that night, all the next day. A slow, agonizing decline doesn’t begin to describe her suffering. TWICE she was abandoned by other climbers who left her alone, silently screaming to not be left to die alone, after more than 24 hours of pure agony. THAT is NOT “doing what you love”.
They had no choice but to leave her.
Yes it is.
@@hrvojebartulovic7870if it is, she wouldn’t cry about it and just take it with a smile right? But nah, she wanna be dumb and then cry and beg
@@WSTCOASTDMN regreting for being dumb is part of being dumb!
You confused abandoning for they had to move on or die themselves.
No one can CARRY YOU down Everest. You have to do it yourself.
Francys and her husband were SELFISH. They pretty much willingly orphaned their son, even after he had asked them not to go! So senseless.
U r so very right!
@@Hatikvah1163yes!
That boy not their real son .
Who cares.
Zero empathy… zero. Just like the dudes on the titan submersible. Except for the teenager… rip suleman.
And now they are trying to contaminate the Mariana Trench with human invasion!!! Leave the heights and the debts of nature alone!!
Mountaineers don't care if they have your empathy or not, your opinion isn't that important, but thanks for letting us know lol
@@qi1gland no one will remember your name since it's been done already. Unless you join the corpses. Then you can get to be another cautionary tale. 👻
I know that poor teenager right? 😢
@@I.pray.to.George.Carlin
I believe he did not want to go. But he would probably have been traumatized for life otherwise.
Its a catch 22
I remember seeing a sign that locals put up on the mountain. It basically said, “please stop littering the mountain with your dead bodies.” Enough said.
Not true at all!!!
That's literally not happened.
Also, dead bodies are biodegradable.
Joke🤣
"Getting to the top is optional. Getting down is mandatory."
Ed Viesturs, American mountaineer who has summited all 8000 m peaks.
The most tragic and touching story in this video is the fate of Frances' husband who turned back to search for her and died.
But But they thought they were superhuman. Guess not.
Brings a whole other issue into play that is raised in the movie GI Jane about whether guys feel culturally obligated to save women...
Despite this good on all climbers, male or female, for chasing the mountains.
Unfortunately, those 2 had at least one child that was left orphaned by their actions.
@johndeer6543 •
The even more tragic part of the Fran story, is that they were both, husband and Fran, reunited in a very short span of time. On the other side of life that is to say, in their afterlife. It is very sad indeed. The way the narration was progressing, we as listeners, were invested in Fran, pulling for her to pull through. All the while knowing, we were in fact, listening to what was surely to be Fran's demise. The husband's ill fate was so unexpected it seems like it was casually thrown in the story. It almost seemed like Everest took him as well, as a bonus. That part of the story, for sure, had an astounding shock effect on me.
Imagine living with the fact you left behind your wife and you made it to safety I also would rather die. He should have never separated from her. She was so strong she held out for so long.
The drone video that shows the crowded route to the top and all those cables and ladders dragged up there and installed to make success easier to achieve really brings it home that today's summit is nothing like the mountaineering feat accomplished by Mallory and Irvine who many believe were the first to successfully summit.
You really don't know anything about it, do you?!
This is like deep sea diving vice versa... Too high to low humans were not built to go🫡😏period
Yah, I have no sympathy for them. Rich people problem.
@@realityjunky ohhh god!!!
IF there is a crevice, a hole, a forbidden gate, a high place, a pot,,,,,,some human will try to get in there. We are all usless
@@Wisdom-Nuggets-Tid-Bits Well, you know, self-indulgent, delusional people wasting money.
@@realityjunky Poor people are like that too. Millions living off the nipple of welfare and food stamps due to sheer narcissism, ego, and hate. But I digress. I get you.
The fact that there's not proper oxygen for us humans up there alone should steer people away... Something's God created are just meant to not touch and just admire
*2016, Everest, & Above Camp #4; So, Maria, ALready HAD a ProbLem!!!! Sooo--->*
*Maria & Her RoTTen HusBand Pushed Ahead into the DEATH ZONE, ANYWAY!!!!*
*Maria, DIED!!!! Maria's RoTTen Husband SHOULD have Spent at least 5-yrs. in PriSon for Voluntary WifeMurder!!!*
What a lovely way to describe Everest. ⛰🌨
I think the same opinion applies to underwater cave diving. Especially when the signs say, "Don't go any further. Death awaits." That's a paraphrase, of course, but the image of the grim reaper speaks volumes. Still, there are those who ignore the signs and experience disaster.
No such thing as "god" though 😂😂😂😂
@@ukwhitewitchyou'll soon find out UK WHITE WITCH wtfff
Shriya: I want to climb Everest, it' smy dream
Sherpas: How much mountaineering experience do you have?
Shriya: None, at all. But I run and go to a rock climbing gym
Sherpas: Don't go
Shriya: I can't keep up the pace
Sherpas: Turn around
Shriya: No, I can do it
Sherpas: You are exhausted, turn around
Shriya: No, I can do it
Sherpas: You are suffering from altitute sickness, turn around
Shriya: No, I can do it
Sherpas: You will die if you keep going!
Shriya: I DID I TOLD YOU I COULD!
Sherpas: But you can barely walk!
Shriya's last words: Save me
Sherpas: We tried and tried and tried to, you wouldn't listen.
The difference between becoming a hero and becoming a legend is mostly death…
Everest does not care about gender or lifestyle. Some mountains are not meant to be challenged.
Totally agree with you. What is wrong with people, they just keep on going.
This mountain is meant to be challenged. Just with much more advanced equipment that for one thing fixes the problem of breathing. Not saying it wouldn’t still be perilous.
Everest is a sacred place where you cannot just "conquer" the Mountain gods. They decide if you make it.
Local Nepali know this and hence pray for safe passage
@@jelambertson No it's not. It's human foolishness that brings about the tragedies. No one has any business up in that mountain.
The mountain is based. [double entendre emphasized]
I just discovered last night that one form of altitude sickness is GOING BLIND!
Yep! If there's no oxygen getting to the optical nerve, it starts to die and blindness will happen! The body will prioritize which organs need oxygen the most and in a life or death situation, the eyes are not a priority
Yikes, that is bad, Never knew that. Tell me something else that I have so wondered. Do you think they sign a form or some agreement like for instance before the climb, like if you die on Everest, you stay there. Cos no bodies ever get brought down it seems.
@@sandyvanderlinde237 Yes, its explained to all climbers that's its pretty much every man/woman for themselves. Recover of the bodies is covered by the climbers life insurance, however a lot of the missing climbers are never found. Plus the conditions are usually too dangerous for the bodies to actually be brought back.
I think that happens from touching yourself too much, and they just blame the altitude, to disguise their hobbies.
@@zipperpillow lol
K2 is far more dangerous of a climb than Everest and claims more lives.
I would like to trek to Everest base camp which is over 17,000 ft in elevation but not interested in traversing the Khumbu icefall to go any higher.
K2’s kill ratio is definitely worse than Everest, but Everest has killed more climbers. The reason for that is simple; far more people try to climb Everest.
More climbers may have died on the Matterhorn than any other mountain. It is estimated that over 500 alpinists have died on The Matterhorn, a relatively small mountain at only 14,685ft in the Swiss Alps, making it the deadliest mountain in the world for climbing.
@@johnelliott8630Matterhorn is far more accessible than all the other mountains mentioned here, especially K2, therefore much more people try to climb it, hence the overall higher number of deaths. It's still pretty damn scary though considering how steep it is, that thing is shaped like an harrow 😳
I went to Pikes Peak and suffered vertigo and weakness due to the lack of oxygen at that height. No thanks been there done that and won't be going back.
@@theimaginist3310yeah but if you calculate the percentages k2 is way more deadly for how hard and dangerous it is it’s a very technical climb , one small mistake ends your life. It’s like 1 in 4 chances of death.
When it comes to mount Everest. It doesn't matter how experienced or determined you are, if you can see the warnings. Go back down and you will live to fight another day.
Leave Everest alone!
Bunch of narcissists
Once again, some punk kid blanket labeling people narcissist's without ACTUALLY knowing the definition or knowing ANYTHING about the people they're labeling....pathetic
💯 selfish jerks!
@@mrnice111😂
1st story: she was practicing, exercising, aclimatizing, eating special diet ... and then she stumbled and fell....
2nd story:she wanted to prove vegans can trive, but than she died and proved the opposite!
3rd story: she conquered all 7 peaks. And than she died. Before she could even celebrate!
4th story: she thought conquering MtEverest without suplemental oxygen was a big deal. The big deal would be conquering it while holding breath! The consequences would be the same...
5th story... "she wasn't content with the ordinary", so she died on Everest. Content, I hope?
Last one... pfffffttttt....she could do it... she could do it... she could do it....untill she couldn't..
*THRIVE!!!!!*
*Has AnyOne Ever ToLd you that you are EViL ???*
So glad I'm not the only one here not praising idiots.
Lol
I noticed that they all have something to prove. Women can do it. Vegan can do it. Can do it without oxygen tank. Can do it because I feel like I can do it. What's next? A trans-woman can do it? A non-binary person can do it? They all seem very arrogant and wouldn't take "No" for an answer.
How horrible it must have been to watch Marti and being absolutely helpless.
Rip Marti ❤ 🧗🏽♀️🧗🏽♀️🕊️🕊️💜
Chicks may excell academically, but very few - if any - are born with common sense.
@@NotDeadYETTTTthat obvious by seeing how the human race still exists. If women had common sense they sure as hell wouldn’t bother with a man.
@notdeadyet liking your own comment I see, cool guy you are 🤣
Climbing everest today has to be the dumbest thing anybody can do!
Why? It's a very simple grade climb.
It's nowhere near as complex as K2, for example. 🤷♂️
Of all the brave and noble reasons to sacrifice one's life...a mountain isn't one of them.
German climber Hanalor Schmuts made it to the peak on Everest and almost as soon as she started her decent she sat on her backpack and died. Her body stayed right next to the path to the peak so everyone could see her. She was finally blown off the mountain. It was a truly tragic story. I typed this before Hanalors story so disregard
*Why Don't you Just DeLete the AWFULL Thing???*
It's descent not *decent....duh
Fu mind your business I spell anyway I want ah.
@@melodysmith307 Very nice......I bet you're single 😁
@@Hate_Tube_SLime You mean your brain?
I won’t even climb on my kids bunk beds
That's ridiculous and a shit7y comment
And neither should they!!!!
Hoping to prove vegans can survive the conditions of Everest, risk your life for something no one cares about, good one
Unfortunately, most people now do not spend years training and practicing, they buy an experience that could kill them.
I remember Marti as being a tram operator at Snowbird, UT. I was in awe of her every time I rode the tram. I also remember the sadness that encompassed the Snowbird community at the time of her loss. May she have had many powder filled turns in the sky as our world passes on.
*You CompLeteLy Omitted GOD, who IS UP there!!!! Sept. 14, 2024*
*& since you Live in Utah, you MUST have Heard about the Creator GOD!!!!*
Shes just dead and gone.
@@Hate_Tube_SLimeoh dear, you are sadly delusional 😮
If God wants credit, Gos should have lent a hand and helped her survive!
Can I just say can we have much respect for the AMAZING Sherpa’s who risk their lives for stubborn rich foreigners !
Agree, but it's so sad that this is a main money making job...
She’s about to do something very few women have done, die an excruciating death in God forsaken loneliness, silently screaming to be saved and slowly realizing in terror that no help can reach her. Stupid is as stupid does.
It’s rarely an excruciating death
The saddest part of Marty Hoey's death is that it was caused by the simplest mistake a climber can make. She did not double buckle her harness belt. The belt did not fail, Marty just made a high altitude mistake. Proof of this is in the video at 6:44 to 6:45 (footage from the original video). You can plainly see Marty's harness is just single buckled with the tail hanging down instead of being threaded back through the buckle.
That's the same way Americans wear motorbike helmets and then wonder why they don't stay on.
Her technique was hooey?
Everest is not the most challenging 8000 metre mountain in the Himalayas, there are 14 of them of which Annapurna and K2 are considered the most challenging… Everest is simply the highest and not so technically difficult, which is why it attracts so many “tourist” class climbers.
That is not to say it is not dangerous or easy to climb. It is obviously a very risky endeavour, there are technically challenging areas, hostile weather and thin air … and hundreds of punters standing in line all roped together (madness imo) and I really pity the porters and Sherpa’s, ill clad and ill equipped in comparison to the paying clients and poorly paid who endure hell incessantly required to climb up and down to fix ropes, erect tents, short rope ill prepared and inept clients and attempt to rescue folk in horrendous weather conditions.
Imo, no one should set foot on any mountain unless they are prepared to die there and are actually competent climbers. This is not a day out at a Disney side show.
*26,000 FEET!!!! I'm Trying to Lean & ReMember this!!!!*
Nanga Parbat is up there with Annapurna I and K2. The challenge would be to conquer the more difficult mountains (Denali isn't easy either) rather than choosing by height.
Ughhh that last story is just so aggravating. EVEREST was her “life long dream” yet she never went mountain climbing at all let along any of the 8000 meter peaks. But yeah, let’s do Everest! 👍 and she had soooo many signs that said she was not going to do well to the point where the best Sherpa in the group wouldn’t even take her past base camp!! Than she was verbally told to turn around, you don’t got this and she’s says I can it, I can do it. How do you now know your mountaineering limits when you never mountaineered! And the best was when she couldn’t go any further THAN she calls out to others “ help me, help me” THEY BEEN TRYING to help you by telling you you not to go that you showed to many signs that you were not going to make it. NOW she wants there help. 😡
Classic example of thinning the herd right there.
Frances Aresentiev was foolish to climb without Oxygen tanks.The arrogance of humans knows no bounds. She made he summit but.........oh well. RIP
Luckily no one forced them to climb
*2016, Everest, & Above Camp #4; So, Maria, ALready HAD a ProbLem!!!! Sooo--->*
*Maria & Her RoTTen HusBand Pushed Ahead into the DEATH ZONE, ANYWAY!!!!*
*Maria, DIED!!!! Maria's RoTTen Husband SHOULD have Spent at least 5-yrs. in PriSon for Voluntary WifeMurder!!!*
Stupidity and selfishness combined with a huge ego. Something all climbers of Everest have in common.
I have sen many documentaies on the 1996 disaster and had yet to see such a detailed coverage on Yasuko Namba. At most, they say she worked in mail (with an almost implicit "she was just a mailwoman"), the lie that she was inexperienced and that she died by where Beck Weathers almost did. It is nice to know more of her. And to answer you question, at least with the coverage of the 96 disaster, they 100% are harsher to the women.
While documentary makers put lots of compassion when talking about Doug (who should have turned back long before the storm), the several guides Andy, Scott or Rob (who were in charge of the main decisions), the implicit blame on Yasuko being supposedly inexperienced for the climb and explicit blame on Sandy Pittmann and the pressure the put on the teams with her book deal, implied spoiled behavior and internet communications (which isn't placed on Krakauwer and his own book) is heartbreaking. Those women there who aren't blamed are ignored, as Lena and Charlotte are almost footnotes on the story. And there's also a bit of iffy blame that to me seems more xenophobia on the lead of the vietnamese team Makalu Gao who kept on after being told of the loss of one of his teammates, painting him as callous; and to Anatoli Boukreev who gets more blame on going up without oxigen than for going out in the storm to find those lost in it several times.
The tragedy is heartbreaking, but the way some of the survivors are painted as the guilty in the many documentaries since is downright painful. This people don't deserve the slander
That and the mess on this mountain now covered in garbage as well as the dead
11:44 “… As they pushed further into the death zone…“ DEATH ZONE! OK, I’m out! Good luck up there!
These videos are SUPERBLY produced and the commentator speaks very well. Tragic as these stories are the videos are so well put together that they are a must to watch.
The narrator sounds a bit like Clint Eastwood. 😄
Climbing Mt Everest is almost fulfilling a death wish! A shallow achievement that often costs your life.
“Pride comes before a Fall”
"Pride goeth before destruction and an haughty spirit before a fall" Proverbs 16:18 KJV
I have been as high as 17,000 feet - I was dizzy and miserable and it is one of the worst memories of my life (Chacaltaya glacier, Bolivia) - I was so dizzy and disoriented and fatigued that I almost slid over a cliff. We lived in La Paz at the time at around 11,000 feet.
I don't feel bad for anyone who died on Everest. I feel bad for all the loved ones they left behind because their suicidal dream was more important to them.
I do not get the attraction to going up a dangerous mountain just to say: “look at me! I made it to the top!” As if it somehow is a notable achievement. Ridiculous.
Fixed it for you...."Maria, driven by selfishness and narcissism "..........
She should never have continued....what an appalling act of utter disregard for others 😢
I don't care if you're a man or a woman. If you think you can conquer Mount Everest, it will conquer you.
You may not die, but your body is DAMAGED.
INSIDE. Your quality of life is also very important!!
Tell that to the tens of thousands who have summitted it and some many times over. I think it is a miserable way to spend a vacation.
90% of people who set out to conquer Mount Everest conquer it successfully. Only 1% die.
@@GenelleSmay True! Look at Beck Weathers.
In my childhood years. I learned that climbing up was relatively easy. The REAL TOUGH Part was climbing back down. Yes, I fell a few feet and was hurt. However, lessons learned from climbing a tree in a public park.🤔
Marty Hoey was one of my instructors on my very first course at NOLS. A natural rock jock, she was also a wealth of wilderness skills.
She HAD a wealth of wilderness skills. Skills that were completely useless on Mt. Everest. This is a stupid pursuit and only people who have everything to live for undertake. There is nothing impressive about doing this now that most people who try this pay exorbitant sums of money for the opportunity to do so. Just like everything else in the world, if you have enough money, you don’t need skills or intelligence to achieve that which is reserved for the most capable amongst us.
Imagine seeing these bodies, well preserved. An image that will surely remain with those that witness.
To climb the Everest: what an extremely stupid and totally useless dream!
Yes. People should have safer sports like cave diving in Plura, Norway.
@@herkko61 Cave diving is as dangerous. If I understand you correctly, the solution to losing the right foot is to lose the left foot...
@@herkko61*
USELESS is right. Doesn’t benefit the person or anyone around them.
I cannot think of a more miserable way to spend a vacation. I would rather run a marathon on Hawaii.
I cant relate to being prepared to lose your life to fulfill a dream but for some it seems to be worth the cost. Their dreams are more important than their lives. But there's nothing to dream about once you're dead. In the last case, she was only 33 yrs old! I think about her loved ones' heartache her dream also cost.
I don't have dreams about doing something that can take my life. There is so much more out there.
Or she could have not done it and got cancer at 34.
@@le13579 That's really stupid reasoning; disrespectful to cancer victims in fact. Dying of cancer is not a CHOICE people make; unlike these dangerous situations here.
The Ego is the risk taker. Mr Common Sense doesnt stand a chance against Mr Ego
@@le13579you sound ignorant and dumb
You're a good storyteller sir not a bunch of hogwash in between just straight out of story facts this is good
Thank you! I really appreciate your feedback. I aim to keep things clear and engaging, so it’s great to hear that resonated with you. If you have any more thoughts or questions, feel free to share!
Many thanks to Extreme Edge Stories for a tasteful video about some of the women who attempted to climb Everest. Their stories are haunting tales that remind us all how precious and precarious life is.
I really appreciate that you did not show any post mortem images of the people who lost their lives on the mountain.
So after watching this informative and touching video, I took it upon myself to check the Google and look at what type of deer is used to climb Mount Everest. I'm absolutely amazed at the gear that's used as some of the best ever made by some of these manufacturers . I just find it amazing that none of that clothing can't stop the cold
True bravery is to conquer evil and injustice in the world, not to climb a wall of ice fall and breaks your neck and pay a fortune for it, a fortune that can feed hungry pepole and pets
*Why Don't those Hungry PeoPLe Get a Job???? I do FeLL SoRRy for their Pets!!!!*
@@Hate_Tube_SLime hungry pepole not all of them can get a job, there are very poor countries with very poor people and many homeless kids, not all countries have a proper supportive system to the disabled, I call strays pets because they are supposed to be pets, hungry stray cats and dogs deserve better
@@Hate_Tube_SLimestupid douchebag.
Personally, I think its very selfish to do a climb like this...for what?? To say you did it?? If you want to do something monumental, use to money you'd spend on that trip to give someone lifesaving surgery, or build a home for a family, or buy poor seniors dentures!! Do something besides giving your family and friends heartache and leaving another body behind to slowly disintegrate.
Yes 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I'm glad I don't have any mountaineering ambitions, sure it's nice to overcome Everest but I would rather overcome the mountains in my mind, they are more difficult
Lives cut short for no real reason.....insanity.
Who helps these poor sherpas who have to watch these people die? What kind of emotional help do they get? Do some give up climbing because of these experiences? I know they make really good money, but could any money be worth what this must do to your mind?
I am not trying to take anything away from the last climber (Shria) but I put some of the blame on Nepal. She had never climbed a mountain before that is part of the problem? She not only put her life in danger she put her Sherpas lives in danger. Even if Nepal gave her a permit the company that took her shouldn't have let her climb.
The problem is that the most Sherpas are doing this to get money. They don’t really care about the climbers, who overestimated their skills. We have the same problems with this „climbers“ in Switzerland. They don’t listen to the guides and trying to wander off to do their own thing. Some are lucky to be rescued and others are still lying there after their „great adventure“.
But the gov makes a shit ton of money
An "actual photo" in an "actual video" that I'm actually watching with actual eyes! Count me in!
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@@891Henry Honestly, somehow 65 now I am turning into my Dad but thank God some positive replies. Am a proofreader and got nailed for that, too!
@@CoalCreekCroft I'm 69 and turned into both my parents a long time ago. 🤓
@@891Henry But like you I bet, thank God for that and the times in which WE grew up vs today. Cheers. Now git off my lawn!
Commercial climbing on Everest should be a big freaking no no. You should have to have serious climbing experience and qualifications before you are allowed to attempt
You hear people say things like “if I die doing _____than at least I’ll die doing what I love” , &/or they say “yes it is” when asked if it’s worth dying for prior to setting off…all too often.🤨
But I just wonder if when they are in the moment and actually dying up there, if you asked them the same things as when they were safe and sound prior…would they still say that it’s worth it? I mean I think some would likely answer the same but im sure many would probably change their answers.
Especially someone who’s situation is like the last woman’s, who are quite unexperienced…I wonder if they’d still believe that it’s worth it? I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say NO imo if they knew that they were actually going to die and it isn’t just a hypothetical possibility but instead an eventuality.
Cause like seriously tho…if there’s one thing that basically every human being is good at…it’s convincing ourselves that “it won’t happen to me”, as we all do it every day, if we didn’t we’d all be recluses too afraid to leave our houses ffs!😉👍
Btw: I’m by no means, trying to come off like a giant douche here…I think everyone has the right to do what they wish when involving their own lives and I respect whatever endeavors they choose to embark upon. I’m just legitimately curious, that’s all. So sorry (not sorry) if someone else perceives it incorrectly as it’s not on me😅🤷♀️
No need to be a douche to think they probably regret it tbh. The number of people who plead to not be left alone or to be saved says one thing is what you think and hope and another is facing reality and feeling the agony your body is going through as you die.
I can only imagine it’s similar to having a baby! Some women go through agony during childbirth and swear that the pain is so excruciating, they never want to go through that again! And after giving birth, they “forget” about the pain and trauma and want to have another baby!
Surviving Everest I think is like that, forgetting, all the trauma and pain and discomfort and wanting to do it again!
*GiantDouche*
@@marybarry2230 Having babies is WAAAYYYY overrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some people claim it's worth it because for them it genuinely is. Others do because they're in love with the idea, not the activity itself.
Death is certain the hour is not. I can die doing any number of the sports or activities that are considered high risk that i do. I can also trip down the stairs doing laundry and crack my head in and die that way. I can die being hit by a car (and honestly after the third time I was hit on the damn sidewalk that's more likely) or of my equipment giving out. I can slip and find the fastest way down the mountain or i could choke to death.
If death is inevitable then I'd rather go out having lived my life to the max. If that means earlier that I would otherwise so be it. I will not abide living to 100 and having done fuckall with my life though. Sure I'd live longer but can that really be called living? Going through the same shit everyday until you die of sheer boredom.
I've had my close calls. I've got enough metal in me now to count as a cyborg. I've had my head caved in by a horse and I've turned around on k2 to watch the group I passed not long ago presumably due to being right in the path get swept away in an avalanche just as I was leaving. But those are the risks.
There's also a huge difference between accepting death as an option and accepting the risk of death.
I wouldn't even climb a hill let alone a mountain. I have nothing to prove to anyone.
Unless a person has a huge bulldozer and/or stockpile of explosives and flattens Mt. Everest, NOBODY can "conquer" the mountain; the best anybody can hope for is a draw.
I think I remember hearing that you are twice (or more?) as likely to die on the descent as opposed to the ascent
*& just wut do you mean, by NEVER UKraine????*
@@Hate_Tube_SLime wtf are you? Some sort of broken fake bot?
This is why I don't feel bad for them. They wouldn't want you to anyway. This is what they wanted to do. They knew the risks and they knew that even if there are other people there, they can't expect anyone to help if they get in a bind due to the risk for their own lives.
there is one word for them suicidal
I think most of them, except for Shriya, were very well aware of it's dangers and at least they died doing what they wanted the most.
This bunch of fools get no respect from me..🤨
Well, obviously none of them were cut out for it regardless of your efforts to eulogize them. Over inflated egos, abilities, and opinions of themselves would be the best summary
Please!! THey were human beings!!!!!!! How soulless of you
Marty Hoey. She captured me. I’ve never climbed a high mountain. I can still hear her name.
Yup, ridiculous and narcissistic
Pretty sad when it takes a "stranger" 10 years later but still a stranger is the only one that had a heart and took that woman off the mountain finally❤
Should have left her body to remind people how stupid it is to climb to that extent.
It is one thing to die in an accident for from illness, but a totally different thing to do something knowing you have a big chance of dying. Life is too precious and fleeting to deliberately put one's self in that position.
In my opinion, Mt Everest should only be the pros... watching the one with the cleaning up of the camps and how many people were at the summit was insane. Alternatively, limit the number of people that can up. Even better, leave the mountain alone. Maybe she doesn't like all those people climbing all over her.
Well that nice but Mt Everest is not in your country. I love how everyone is telling Nepal what they should do with there land.
As I stated.. my opinion...
@@JAM661 *NO YOU DON'T Love IT!!!!*
*#9531** ; Everest is NOT a She!!!*
Accidents happen no matter the skill level. Pro or novice all have passed trying to climb this mountain. Which is entirely unnecessary. People spend tens of thousands of dollars to die on a mountain.
Did any of these "trail blazers" give a thought to the trash they were leaving behind?
*Why, ShouLd They ???*
As is becoming increasingly evident, MANY human beings are disgustingly selfish.
Don’t forget about the 8 Russian women who died as a group trying to prove women could do it
That was on Mount Lenin in the then Soviet Union. Sure, they thought they can prove women could climb that mountain. However, it sadly cost them their lives.
Annapurna 1978 was a successful ascent by all female + male Sherpas.
@@le13579plus males. They wouldn’t have done it by themselves
Wasn't there a Ukrainian woman's team on that trip too, who made the top?
I was thinking that. There is a video of that story here somewhere.
Climbing Mt. Everest - how utterly stupid is that? I appreciate the amazing stamina & skill, but what a stupid thing to waste them on.
Every corpse you see or pass by on Mt. Everest was once a highly motivated person. Further below, the graveyards are filled with of indispensable people.
Your sacred life, any life, is far more important than anything, especially personal ambition. The warrior's journey in Toltec shamanic wisdom -- You versus death -- in no way leads to Everest.
The stupidity of risking your life for a thrill only. Too many people have died so it’s a real risk.
To ignore ignore the most important thing in the service of life….. is not personal gain…… but it is serving in the service of life….. being a father a mother, a teacher not forfeiting it on private game or gain…!
Responsibility in the service of life for life of those that we live with …. Knowing that our families depend upon us not to waste it chasing our own private self streams..
eh????
They all wound up more famous as a corpse.
But don't go where a human isn't meant to.
Egos come into play
Everest is a graveyard for narcissists
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