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I think she killed the boy because he found out what his mother had done to his siblings. That's why he didn't say much when he came home.. And also the apples that are in the bowl or whatever represent five kids being murdered in the bathtub.. It really scared me! It was brilliant
I was half way to that conclusion, like those other children were once hers but being such a clean freak she couldn't stand the sight of dirt and the mailman was probably the father.
9:19 I think this shows the cause of their mother killing them. From left to right, messy eating, kissing a frog, unknown(but im guessing from getting hurt), getting his clothes dirty. There's also clues in what greatly triggers her anger such as messy eating, the frog, the child getting blood in the house, and finally the clothes getting dirty.
That's what I thought after she buried him. It would also explain what they had said about their sister dying after she kissed a frog; the mother for sure would have flipped.
KAY SO HERES MY THEORY: all the children or 'childer' once were the mother's children who she all killed because they were 'dirty.' You can find out how one of the children dies because of the quote, 'my sister kissed a frog once, she's dead now.' this implies that one of the children was killed by the mother after kissing a frog. (i found this out because there were the same amount of children as the number of cabbages in the cabbage patch, and because of the quote, 'Go home. We are home,' and 'It's nearly November, why aren't they dead yet?') when the boy was playing with those same children, they told him what his mother had done to them, which is why he didn't say much of anything once he got home, one the mother realized that he knew, she had to drown him. afterwards, when the woman steps outside, you can hear a quiet humming, which i think was the little boy, who had after his death, had joined the childer. If u have anything to add please leave a comment and tell me what you think of this theory! Edit: So also i have something else to add. i think that the bit where she says 'I'll make u a ghost,' was foreshadowing to when she kills him. so ya not really much of stuff we dont know but i'd figure i'd put it out there
Only issue with the theory, while as sound as it is, is where does she get the children from to begin with. The postman or adoption? May be that she is in limbo haunted by her past life. This would explain the constant greenery appearing, the children coming to haunt her, the postman (possibly the father) coming back, and overwhelming ocd. Constant ocd could mean that she neglected her family, health and passed away. She relives this constant limbo as a reminder to what she neglected in life.
The way she says “I told you not to play with those children” then “I told you not to play with those childer” at the end freaked me out! This was so well done, I love the fact that it doesn’t rely on jump scares, screaming or gore to be scary
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This short was frikkin excellent. If more horror movies could capture the tone and beats of this, I would pay money to sit in a theatre. As it stands horror can't pay me to watch. Thanks for the upload!!!
Kid wants to be a fireman or an astronaut for Halloween... mom wants him to be a ghost. Kind of a cool metaphor for the idea that he’ll never grow up to be anything but a childer ghost haunting the garden. Imagery was awesome. Loved the transition slides.
I like the symbolism of the recurring nightmare that she has that she is being taken by the forest as it represents the children she’s buried exacting revenge on her
Niel Desabille I think the kids were his dead siblings. Because they’re all covered in dirt and only the mom seems to know them. The mom killed them for being dirty. The sister kissed a frog and the mom offed her because she couldn’t cope.
I think mark saying "mommy" means he knew what was going to happen because most people (especially children) are at a loss for words when a traumatic event happens and the fact that mark said mommy shows that he knew, probably because the ghosts of the other kids told him.
Actually, we learned in psychology class that the obsession of dirt and dust is mostly linked to a fear of sex that is seen as something disgusting..that would explain how the mother treats the mailman when he attempts to flirt, and also the metaphor of cabbages (a tale often told to children when they ask about sex, to cover the reality). It's like this mother still sees it as something shameful. Her children (the dead ones and the one alive) are accepted because they came in a "clean, innocent " way : from cabbages. And when she kills the last one, she plants a new cabbage to get a new kid but the boy won't let her, it's like : "you killed enough mum, this gotta stop". Dunno if im going too far?
@@noneofyourbusiness302 Well I can say that even though it seems most people think the "childer" were her kids, I think that's highly doubtful. One thing in particular that I think adds to what you said is the scene where Mark eats the snack. You'll notice his snack is phallic-shaped and is protruding into an egg, a pretty obvious symbol for intercourse/childbirth. The mother looks on disgusted and keeps telling Mark how messy it is, and then when there's a little spill, freaks out.
wow i’m impressed, it’s just why is she so obsessed with that kinda crap and why did she want to kill all of her children for being dirty it’s so stupid. that woman is insane.
"It's nearly November. Why aren't they dead yet?" made me question whether she was talking about the children or the trees (because of the leaves). I like it.
Towards the end she was testing on herself how it feels when she's under water for a longer time and goes breathless .... thinking how she kills them and how they feel and it's not easy to die that way which shows on her face... Very good one Alter.
No, she suffered from OCD, one aspect being adverse to dirt, so she was cleaning herself of dirt and, maybe, trying to wash away the sin of killing her child.
@@chirpysangee No, that's psychopathy, killing her child, an entirely different field from OCD. You could well be correct about her under the bathwater, although I'll stick to my theory. Lol.
This was brilliant story telling and metaphors. The use of representation of the other children being his lost siblings so close but so out of reach for him. The fact that they clearly made the twist clear and hardly up to interpretation was something I can appreciate. I find a lot of short horror is left up to interpretation, which is fine. But having a clear cut twist is refreshing.
@@thelads-sd4108 At the end, the mother saw her child was just too ... dirty. So she employed an orthodox method to fix it (I’m hyping this up way too much, she basically drowned him in the bathtub and buried him in the garden). What the person was trying to say was that the frog was dirty, the sister kissed it, so the mother just had to get rid of her.
I agree . He ' s amazing ! He' s very talented. And a very cute little boy . His best scene was the one where he comes back home after being with " childer" and the bathtub scene after. That was such a good performance ! He looked so genuinely frightened . So convincing ! He realy nailed that scene !
@@miyabimiyano9455 i know i already mentioned it above but I really suggest watching Safe Haven. Its the same boy acting the main character. Hes very good
In the beginning when the boy was eating he was actually so clean tho like most kids aren't that good at eating without making a mess😂 also it hurts to see him apologize so frightened at his mother for getting upset about the food because she treated him unfairly
"Go home" "We are home" "Its nearly November why arnt they dead yet?" "My sister kissed a frog once she's dead now" There's so much attention to detail here. I mean the number of cabbage plants is the same as the childern. And the reference of pregnancy and the mail man all fit so well. I believe towards the end of the film she's getting ready for a date with the mailman . I think the childern are vengeful spirits that taunt her
@@IcyLife3956 How is your name William Shakespeare and you don't know one of the most well known story mechanics out there? To answer your question - it's subtle hints to an eventual outcome that don't seem as significant as they are when you hear it the first time. So the mom saying "I'll make you a ghost" is a hint that she will eventually actually make him a ghost, by killing him; it seems obvious in retrospect, but in the moment you hear it, it is not obvious.
oh my god. when i tell you as soon as she grabbed the little boy and he started saying mommy in a scared tone, my heart dropped. like it literally stopped for a second.
@@misanthropicisolation4013 There aren't any. Never heard of psychotics having OCD either, but that's not to say some don't, however, the psychosis would be their primary mental health condition.
So, this doesn't matter but, I think that the other kids out there were killed by her. And maybe she wants everything to be clean because she feels dirty that she killed the children, so she is obsessed with being clean and is willing to do some weird things (vacuuming grass) to keep things clean. This doesn't matter and it's a dumb thought though.
Very effective atmosphere for this one, the claustrophobic but sheltering aspect of the house, the almost agoraphobic behavior of the mother, and the camera angles all played well into telling the story. This was something Sterling-esque, a dread hanging over the whole scene. You had a sense that something terrible was about to happen, then were given the notion that something terrible had already happened, and this was just a repeat. Great perfromances by all involved, especially the young people. Special props to Luke Walford for an effective portrayal of the doomed boy. Thanks for sharing this amazing work.
I wish they had those on for the entire time they were they're, and make up ways they died to represent the animals heads. Fox can be she snuck a dirty fox into his room or something from the forest. Goat was stubborn and disobeyed every thing her mother said. Cat was curious about what was in the forest and went to explore. Bird tried to run away but was returned by a police or something.
My take on this was what everyone else’s was but I was surprised nobody talked about what bobbin for apples also means in Druid history. When you cut open an Apple it has a pentagon(in a sense) and they use to do “bobbing” for apples in a ritualistic way where during Halloween they sacrificed people. I don’t recall what for but it seems the same way in this story. She must’ve killed each kid near Halloween as a sacrifice, but also because their dirty? If you notice on the calendar there’s a cut open Apple where you can see the seeds. 5 seeds. 5 children murdered. Idk the correlation but I found it interesting.
Other people make horror films that depend on gore to be scary, but you never fail to make chills run down my spine with your amazing psychological thriller masterpieces
Its so cool tho remember when that teen kid say "my sisyer once kiss a frog and now she's dead" maybe its one of them and her mom (wich is this mom) killed her
The first terrifying part that made me jump was the fact that she actually bought a kirby. I had to pause it and get a drink to calm myself. And she’s vacuuming the grass no less. I absolutely must keep watching to see if she actually uses the attatchments but excellent so far! 👍🏾😂
This was very well done! I grew up with an OCD parent and it was hell not being able to just "be a kid". I figured out pretty quickly they were her other "dirty" children and when her current child came back "filthy" she got rid of him too.
At the start of the film her son had asked "Where do childer come from?" in which the mother replied with "Children come from the cabbage patch at the bottom of the garden". When the mother drowned her son, she buried him in the cabbage patch. I don't know if anyone else thought this but maybe because of her answer to her son's question she had other children that were murdered and buried there as well. Sorry if this isn't explained well
I don't usually watch horror because of the jump scares but Alter videos gives off an unsettling or whatever it is called just not jump scares that makes me love their short films!
@@lo-fidreamsASMR I am so very sorry! I can only sympathize with what your spouse did to your children. My dearest friend had a horrific and an absolute nightmare experience with her now ex husband and his actions, especially towards other children and not so sure of what happened to her (their) daughter. I hope your children and you are well.
This is what I love about Alter - it’s always unconventional and interesting. Like I was a little tense but the real horror was the mother not the children.
Also, bobbing for apples shows drowning connection. And the egg dipping talking about the teacher having a new baby And him asking "does she eat the baby? "
Some points I noticed: - She doesn’t drink wine or coffee. Could that be because those drinks easily stain what they’re spilled on? - She drowned her last child. Possibly because that would have been because it wouldn’t be as “dirty” as other methods?
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You should do a collaboration with Crypt TV. You both bring cool elements into your videos and I think it'd be neat to see what you could do as a team.
I finally got a theory: so the apples at the bottom of the stairs mean how many kids she had killed there where 4 kids but now after she killed another there was a apple added to the bucket. When she told the 4 kids to go home they said we are home witch means they used to be hers then at the end the boy became one of the kids that’s why you hear him laughing at the very end edit:(another small detail is the frog the 4 kids bring is the frog that died ) also just so you guys know the time line is kinda messed up
and when she said " the kids come from the cabbage patch aka garden and why the kids are covered in dirt. she killed the kids and buried them in the dirt under the cabbage
why does she say its almost November they should've died already . how does she keep getting pregnant...the mailman? why doesnt he notice he knocks her up ? or that kids go missing?
wow.. incredibly interesting seeing it from her perspective because the whole time it leaves you trying to figure out what is wrong until you slowly start to realize that she is absolutely insane
My interpretation: I feel like the children outside, described as 'feral' in the synopsis, were symbolic for her fear of disorganization and overall being unkempt. She couldn't control them, so she viewed them as a threat to her son, whom she could control and keep 'clean.' When he played with them, the mother then viewed him as 'contaminated.' Thus, she kills him; which in my opinion is a sign of weakness, of not being able to handle the thought that her son was unclean. She viewed him as being permanently altered (pun not intended) and the only way she knew how to make the idea go away was to put an end to him, to her intrusive thoughts. At the end, I almost thought that she was going to commit suicide due to her guilty conscience. However, when she didn't, I wondered how many times she had repeated that process. Again, just my interpretation, so who knows knows.
Hey there, I like your interpretation, especially with the symbolism of being unclean. You're a smart 14 year old. Maybe not mention age because there are some scary people out there who now know your name and age.
exactly, and there's alot of possibilities that the mailman COULD be the father of mark, and also the other children. if so, WHY was he not concerned? like WHO are these kids?
I feel like the fact that this short is exactly 17: 00 minutes like on the dot is what makes it even freakier like this girl is vacuuming GRASS and I think that the time really adds to it
ALTER I'm not gonna freak out cause you reply, but i'm gonna day that your short films are very good being entertaining and scary all in one. Keep up the good work!
Tr. Da. I think it went something like this WHO DIDN’T FLUSH THE TOILET AFTER THEY HAD A SH*T? mommy it wasn’t me! WELL IT WAS F*CKING ONE OF YAHS!!! *inhales* DISGUSTING was it that one?
@@allygp6834 thanks for explaining. I am still confused though. If the children in the forest are already dead, why is the lady still waiting for them to die again? Thanks
@@websurfer4672 CHILDER comes from the bottom of the cabbage patch. She buried her child there, at at the end he was humming inside the forest. SO they are all dead and she probably killed them.
Stuff that hints to the twist. 1. ''where do childer come from?'' ''children come from the cabbage patch at the bottom of the garden.'' 2. ''go home'' ''we are home'' 3. ''its nearly november. Why aren't they dead yet?'' 4. Constant appearances of frogs, maybe? 5. ''Our sister kissed a frog once, but she's dead now'' 6. Mark acting confused and scared to her mom after returning. 7. Apples in the water bowl. 8. Planting a cabbage patch after her she drowned her son (see point one) Thats all that i noticed atleast
Guys evidence she’s a serial killer: 1. She’s obsessed with being clean (Because of murdering) 2. All of those children where the ones she drowned (You can tell by the number of oranges after she drowns her “son” and the number of cabbages) 3. She’s in the middle of the woods, not many of those in England so she’s obviously hiding 4. She got nerves when the post officer says that the library is called “Bodie in the Library” That’s all folksGuys evidence she’s a serial killer: 1. She’s obsessed with being clean (Because of murdering) 2. All of those children where the ones she drowned (You can tell by the number of oranges after she drowns her “son” and the number of cabbages) 3. She’s in the middle of the woods, not many of those in England so she’s obviously hiding 4. She got nerves when the post officer says that the library is called “Bodie in the Library” That’s all folks
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Did she kill her son????
CHILL
ALTER I love GOOD well thought out horror short films that leave a sense of mystery you’ve earned a sub !
ALTER btw I would love a sequel to this where the children drive her insane a sequel would have so much potential of being really creepy
I only just realized that when she says “I’ll make you a ghost” it’s foreshadowing.
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You son of a bitch I LOVE IT
Yeah no shit
oh shit, that's so true, you smart for noticing that XD
oh NOW I get it
Knew she was crazy the moment she vacuumed grass like c'mon you obviously hand wash grass to get that shine in
Hoshi Yami yeah then you have to add a bit of polish after, glad I ain’t the only one who does this 😂🤣
I always add a bit of polish to the grasses on my lawn, the neighbours love how my lawn shimmers in the sunlight
Agreed good way to get it buffed out
Plus who doesn't love the smell of freshly cleaned grass in the morning
@@znti7364 gotta keep that new grass smell lasting
vacuuming grass is a whole new level of crazy
Cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo
How's vacuuming a garage, not too crazy?
Sara Jimenez I literally paused the video when I saw that and went to the comment section to see if someone was thinking it hat toO
I thought she was cutting the grass, but then i see the vacuum bag and i oop-
I was thinking that must be some vacuum cleaner. How is it not getting all stopped up?
Watched this a few times the past few years and just realized the Post Man saying "Bye now Son" was probably literal.
he made a mess with the blood teeth....dont come anymore
i'm also rewatching
for those nipples toh
Always wondered how she had so many men impregnate her until him
I think she killed the boy because he found out what his mother had done to his siblings. That's why he didn't say much when he came home.. And also the apples that are in the bowl or whatever represent five kids being murdered in the bathtub.. It really scared me! It was brilliant
Oh thx for info. I was confuse what up with the apple bucket
Thnx for telling us I was so confused
Glad someone understood and explained, but this explanation makes tons of sense, thanks
I was half way to that conclusion, like those other children were once hers but being such a clean freak she couldn't stand the sight of dirt and the mailman was probably the father.
Manisha Mahanandia this made my small brain explode omg now i get why she was like don’t play with those kids
The little boy’s acting is fantastic! Especially considering his age!
IKR!
@@xmxteayese6947 LOL SO TRU
Agree! He's in "Safe Haven" too! He did a great job there as well!
And soooo cute omgg🥰🥰🥰
ma che cazzo dici
I always wanted a house near a forest but films like these makes me rethink of my plan
I still do. It'll just take some getting used to...especially at night.
I live right next to a forest and believe me, nothing ever happens (except for the dirt and the leaves and the trees and the animals. Desgostang!)
Same!
Slender man would get you
As long as your mother isn't a psycopath, i think you'll be fine.
9:19 I think this shows the cause of their mother killing them. From left to right, messy eating, kissing a frog, unknown(but im guessing from getting hurt), getting his clothes dirty. There's also clues in what greatly triggers her anger such as messy eating, the frog, the child getting blood in the house, and finally the clothes getting dirty.
Если подобные причины провоцирует убийство собственного ребенка, таким людям нельзя никогда их иметь
I was looking for a comment like this to find out how they all died. Thank you!
theres also the 5 apples in the bucket of water representing the 5 children she has drowned so far
The oldest child (unknown reason) has his shirt untucked, so maybe his reasoning was that he had his shirt untucked/his clothes disorganised.
good point, thanks!
The part I just realized is that when he was in the bath, he was afraid of her because the children told him what she did.
Nikki Brown OmG I just realized that!
what she did?
@@helena0_031 I mean, those kids were her own children she had drowned
@@getraptureready777 SpOoPyYYYyy
She killed all of her kids
"Fine, I''ll be a ghost."
You didn't know how right you were.
*The Cool Kids Club wants to know your location*
Lmao he's a ghost now
rip
ALTER 😂
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Maybe the childrens are her children...and also killed them , so thats why they said "they were home ....
That's what I thought after she buried him. It would also explain what they had said about their sister dying after she kissed a frog; the mother for sure would have flipped.
and if u look there were 4 children then after she drowned him there were 5 apples floating in the bin
Plus at the end you hear him humming the same song he had sang before & the children's laugher is heard
I think exatly same
This is a good take. 👀
The five apples floating in the water (symbolising the drowned children) towards the end was a really nice touch.
unfamilar text, good analysation. 6A
My grass is dirty.. might vacuum it later idk
Good idea. You get payed very well for vacuuming other people's grass too
Lmao
Anyone wanna vaccum ours maybe it will get rid of the bugs thatare in the grass
Feeling cute, might go vacuum the lawn
Oi haf tew vocyum me gross naew yeah? Doent bey disgustang luv
ninel basilio LOL
I just realised that when she plants another cabbage it means she’s killed and buried another child
maybe the cabbage patch is where she buries them
I must have missed her planting a cabbage.
We don't want to put their nutrients to waste, do we?
mary may ohhhhhhh
ducktunes they show her doing that
KAY SO HERES MY THEORY:
all the children or 'childer' once were the mother's children who she all killed because they were 'dirty.' You can find out how one of the children dies because of the quote, 'my sister kissed a frog once, she's dead now.' this implies that one of the children was killed by the mother after kissing a frog. (i found this out because there were the same amount of children as the number of cabbages in the cabbage patch, and because of the quote, 'Go home. We are home,' and 'It's nearly November, why aren't they dead yet?') when the boy was playing with those same children, they told him what his mother had done to them, which is why he didn't say much of anything once he got home, one the mother realized that he knew, she had to drown him. afterwards, when the woman steps outside, you can hear a quiet humming, which i think was the little boy, who had after his death, had joined the childer. If u have anything to add please leave a comment and tell me what you think of this theory!
Edit: So also i have something else to add. i think that the bit where she says 'I'll make u a ghost,' was foreshadowing to when she kills him. so ya not really much of stuff we dont know but i'd figure i'd put it out there
Perfectly explained ❤️❤️
That explains why the "childer" were dirty because she killed them because that were dirty
The cabbage seed at the end of the movie could imply that she has another child on the way
so there is both ghosts and she is a murderer..? damn
Only issue with the theory, while as sound as it is, is where does she get the children from to begin with. The postman or adoption? May be that she is in limbo haunted by her past life. This would explain the constant greenery appearing, the children coming to haunt her, the postman (possibly the father) coming back, and overwhelming ocd. Constant ocd could mean that she neglected her family, health and passed away. She relives this constant limbo as a reminder to what she neglected in life.
The way she says “I told you not to play with those children” then “I told you not to play with those childer” at the end freaked me out! This was so well done, I love the fact that it doesn’t rely on jump scares, screaming or gore to be scary
the horror you dont see is the most powerfull in mind...
I must have missed it, what's with 'childer'?
@@hiroibwahI saw another comment saying that it was the word child/murder combined, I didn't really get it until I saw that comment either aha
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This short was frikkin excellent. If more horror movies could capture the tone and beats of this, I would pay money to sit in a theatre. As it stands horror can't pay me to watch. Thanks for the upload!!!
It’s supposed to be a horror movie?
You call this a horror movie?
Very true. While shock and gore have their uses, lazy horror writers use them as a crutch. Subtle horror is much scarier.
Thats supposed to be a horror movie?
Kid wants to be a fireman or an astronaut for Halloween... mom wants him to be a ghost. Kind of a cool metaphor for the idea that he’ll never grow up to be anything but a childer ghost haunting the garden. Imagery was awesome. Loved the transition slides.
Dolce Luxe the mother wanted him to be a ghost because she killed him lol
Agree!
Good point 👍👍👍👍👍
Anyone notice how the title is the words "Children" and "Murder" morphed into one word?
Oh, just me... Ohkay than
Sharp explanation
Whoa
Yeah, and the little boy accidentally said "childer" when the mom said there was children outside
Thank you for pointing that out!
Brilliant
I like the symbolism of the recurring nightmare that she has that she is being taken by the forest as it represents the children she’s buried exacting revenge on her
Wait she killed all of those kids?
@@maddisonstewartYeah, their were her childrens
@@Atthhenea that’s messed up, she killed her own kids, what a messed up bish
@@maddisonstewart just a movie haha calm down sweetheart lol
@@oshayneal4057 lol I know but still 😅
I cried when she tried to force his head under water. Him saying “Mommy” in a frantic tone made it worse
•Lil Fløof• Aw I know it was so sad :(
true
mikulover653 im sorry but..i’m thinking miku miku OOOEEOOO
It was so traumatizing for me stuff like that always gets me😭
Same its so sad a child dead
"Our sister kissed the frog once, but she's dead now."
Me was like: what's the reason of the other children from being killed?
Niel Desabille I think the kids were his dead siblings. Because they’re all covered in dirt and only the mom seems to know them. The mom killed them for being dirty. The sister kissed a frog and the mom offed her because she couldn’t cope.
“No trespassing. No pOst”
Her hand writing looks like how she sounds
MathMan Science DAMN you are holding a grudge for a fictitious character dude, chill please?
I think mark saying "mommy" means he knew what was going to happen because most people (especially children) are at a loss for words when a traumatic event happens and the fact that mark said mommy shows that he knew, probably because the ghosts of the other kids told him.
Dresses her son as a ghost
Children: *are we a joke to you?*
ColourBlind Boi *childer
cholder*
@@re-mo3jq *Bolder
@@re-mo3jq shoulder
*Lobster
“Don’t be rude, I went through a lot of trouble to make this!” *literally just cut two holes out of a sheet and used a sharpie*
seeing that she is a control freak, cutting up and drawing on a perfectly good bed sheet might be too much for her
Cmon now ... it was embroidered. That takes skill.
Michaela Lankford I know lol
I said, “No, you didn’t” out loud.
Actually, we learned in psychology class that the obsession of dirt and dust is mostly linked to a fear of sex that is seen as something disgusting..that would explain how the mother treats the mailman when he attempts to flirt, and also the metaphor of cabbages (a tale often told to children when they ask about sex, to cover the reality). It's like this mother still sees it as something shameful. Her children (the dead ones and the one alive) are accepted because they came in a "clean, innocent " way : from cabbages. And when she kills the last one, she plants a new cabbage to get a new kid but the boy won't let her, it's like : "you killed enough mum, this gotta stop".
Dunno if im going too far?
Nice! This adds to my theory nicely as well, thanks.
Unfortunately my theories never actually appeared in the comment thread for some reason...
@@Hijodeganas1 shame really...I would love to know your thoughts. Just please wash up first!
@@noneofyourbusiness302 Well I can say that even though it seems most people think the "childer" were her kids, I think that's highly doubtful. One thing in particular that I think adds to what you said is the scene where Mark eats the snack. You'll notice his snack is phallic-shaped and is protruding into an egg, a pretty obvious symbol for intercourse/childbirth. The mother looks on disgusted and keeps telling Mark how messy it is, and then when there's a little spill, freaks out.
wow i’m impressed, it’s just why is she so obsessed with that kinda crap and why did she want to kill all of her children for being dirty it’s so stupid. that woman is insane.
"It's nearly November. Why aren't they dead yet?" made me question whether she was talking about the children or the trees (because of the leaves). I like it.
that was kind of the point
@@jostockton.And that was kinda the point of the comment
Towards the end she was testing on herself how it feels when she's under water for a longer time and goes breathless .... thinking how she kills them and how they feel and it's not easy to die that way which shows on her face...
Very good one Alter.
No, she suffered from OCD, one aspect being adverse to dirt, so she was cleaning herself of dirt and, maybe, trying to wash away the sin of killing her child.
Extreme OCD then that she went ahead and killed her children ..though I still feel she wanted to feel how long she could sustain under water
@@chirpysangee
No, that's psychopathy, killing her child, an entirely different field from OCD.
You could well be correct about her under the bathwater, although I'll stick to my theory. Lol.
I thought she wanted to drown herself because she didn't want to live like this, but couldn't do it...
Possible.....it must have been a thought. But she could not do it
I don’t understand what her beef with the postman is. He seems lovely.
because she didnt want anyone inside her house cause shes a murderer
He was so lovely! I wanna meet a nice postman who enjoys reading books and book clubs 😍
She killed so many of her children and buried them in her memory that all she does is cleaning the crime scene.
Most bipolar, paranoid schizophrenic killers, always have a beef with someone
I think the postman was the father of her children.
when she said “disgostang” i could think of only one video
and that one video...
Who left a shit on the toilet?! Well this Is disgostang!
Musta been fookin one a yas
SAME XD
Same
This was brilliant story telling and metaphors. The use of representation of the other children being his lost siblings so close but so out of reach for him. The fact that they clearly made the twist clear and hardly up to interpretation was something I can appreciate. I find a lot of short horror is left up to interpretation, which is fine. But having a clear cut twist is refreshing.
Agreed!
Wait I don’t get it
"Our sister once kissed a frog. She's dead now."
I see what you did there.
I don’t get it
Hahaha it dawned on me after watching the whole thing. Obviously kissing a frog is very dirty so the daughter just had to go 😂
@@thelads-sd4108 At the end, the mother saw her child was just too ... dirty. So she employed an orthodox method to fix it (I’m hyping this up way too much, she basically drowned him in the bathtub and buried him in the garden). What the person was trying to say was that the frog was dirty, the sister kissed it, so the mother just had to get rid of her.
@@A_real_Ha_So That very well may be what happened.
@Charles Unleashed 😂😂😂😂this made me laugh ᒪᗰᗩO!
The little boy acting like her son is amazing in acting 👏🏽!
Watch "safe haven", he is so good
i hope he gets casted from famous films, he deserves it!
I agree . He ' s amazing ! He' s very talented. And a very cute little boy . His best scene was the one where he comes back home after being with " childer" and the bathtub scene after. That was such a good performance ! He looked so genuinely frightened . So convincing ! He realy nailed that scene !
@@miyabimiyano9455 i know i already mentioned it above but I really suggest watching Safe Haven. Its the same boy acting the main character. Hes very good
The little kid acting as her son is a really good actor tbh.
He really is
Facts
Ye
In the beginning when the boy was eating he was actually so clean tho like most kids aren't that good at eating without making a mess😂 also it hurts to see him apologize so frightened at his mother for getting upset about the food because she treated him unfairly
Yeah, the mother is clearly nuts and affecting her son.
(Nonexistent) Friend- Wanna come over today?
Me: Sorry my moms making me vacuum the grass, maybe later
Hhh then you would say "yea I know my mom is crazy "
Hhh then you would say "yea I know my mom is crazy "
Vacuuming the driveway is worse
I read that in the most Scottish accent ever
Then the friend replies "Disgusting... You don't wash the grass with soap?"
Mom: "There are some weird children outside."
Also mom: *proceeds to vacuum grass*
Hahahahaha
I know, right?lol
I, too, vacuum the grass.
246 ways to annoy people
@@Phoenix2.5D wait??? what???
Omg it made me cry when I saw the fear on his face he knew what she was about to do HE WAS SO ADORABLE WHYYY 😭😭
He couldve run away
I know right? And also your profile picture is giving me nightmares 😳
ikr????!!!!
IKR
🥺🥺🥺🥺
The little boy Mark, is so cute! What a great actor too!! Awesome plot and characters! Would love to see more from this director/writer!!
*lady buries kid in ground*
me: the heck are you doing?! now hes gonna be dirty forever!
Lol ikr, but I’m still confused tho why did she drown him??
@@lamogetrektlittlekidlol5757 It's because of what she said...
Not funny
Didn't laugh
Why spoil
@@lamogetrektlittlekidlol5757 probably bc the kids told him what she did and she couldn't just leave him. He would've told somebody
"Go home"
"We are home"
"Its nearly November why arnt they dead yet?"
"My sister kissed a frog once she's dead now"
There's so much attention to detail here. I mean the number of cabbage plants is the same as the childern. And the reference of pregnancy and the mail man all fit so well. I believe towards the end of the film she's getting ready for a date with the mailman . I think the childern are vengeful spirits that taunt her
No at the end she drowned her son and buried him in the cabbage patch
@@daughter0fdarkness658 and those apples in the bowl of water represented her drowning all of them
@@leylahkorai6002 Ik I've watched this many times to understand this video.
Does that mean the children in the forest are her past children that she killed and buried and that's why they said they were home?
Xavier and KittyKat yes, please go on about how ur no fun at parties
"Fine. I'll be a ghost"
Well, if that's not foreshadowing...
@@IcyLife3956 it's like spoilers but they foreshadowed it in the past
@@IcyLife3956 How is your name William Shakespeare and you don't know one of the most well known story mechanics out there?
To answer your question - it's subtle hints to an eventual outcome that don't seem as significant as they are when you hear it the first time. So the mom saying "I'll make you a ghost" is a hint that she will eventually actually make him a ghost, by killing him; it seems obvious in retrospect, but in the moment you hear it, it is not obvious.
The other kids were abortions. And she lost it
I love reading a book or watching a movie and picking up on the creepy foreshadowing after it wnds
@@sonicgamer1139 so… foreshadowing?
oh my god. when i tell you as soon as she grabbed the little boy and he started saying mommy in a scared tone, my heart dropped. like it literally stopped for a second.
Same
But poor little guy! His mum was a maniac, she was cleaning grass too! A nightmare that woman.
OCD.
Nearly forgot...do you know why she was so bad?
@@billyandrew Extreme psychotic levels of OCD.
@@misanthropicisolation4013
There aren't any.
Never heard of psychotics having OCD either, but that's not to say some don't, however, the psychosis would be their primary mental health condition.
I'm pretty sure they were joking
So, this doesn't matter but, I think that the other kids out there were killed by her. And maybe she wants everything to be clean because she feels dirty that she killed the children, so she is obsessed with being clean and is willing to do some weird things (vacuuming grass) to keep things clean.
This doesn't matter and it's a dumb thought though.
the dead kids are her kids, the other cabbages represents each of her kids she killed.
@@themoribundapathetic4530 Omg thank u so much for making the whole point of this film. This explains a lot to me!
@@daughter0fdarkness658 np ^^
You're a genius! But why she didn't change Home if there was the "souls" of his childrens?
(I love your nickname 😍🤣)
I agree
Boy: my sister kissed a frog once... she’s dead now
Me: oH
Omgggggg everything makes so much more since
Ohh I didn't even realize what that meant until I saw this comment.
That lady who tends to be a mother is crazy and probably murdered all those kids that kept appearing in the backyard
@@derrickeseer5276 I don get it :/
She probably kissed a poison dart frog
Very effective atmosphere for this one, the claustrophobic but sheltering aspect of the house, the almost agoraphobic behavior of the mother, and the camera angles all played well into telling the story. This was something Sterling-esque, a dread hanging over the whole scene. You had a sense that something terrible was about to happen, then were given the notion that something terrible had already happened, and this was just a repeat. Great perfromances by all involved, especially the young people. Special props to Luke Walford for an effective portrayal of the doomed boy. Thanks for sharing this amazing work.
y'all ever just feel like,,,,,,,
vacuuming
*grass*
Man, this just cracks me up every time I scroll by it! Lmao.
Is it bad if I say Iv done it once 🤭🤭
@@emmaslowe4612
Folk, not understanding why, might find it strange, even funny, but I can't see why any sane person might think of it as bad.
Get the dirt off my dirt.
The Masquerade Of Five funny
"Where do Childer come from?"
"Children come from the cabbage patch at the bottom of the garden."
This is such a well thought out story
We agree! The team really outdid themselves with this one. Major kudos to director Aislinn Clarke as well.
Oof
Lemon Kid Me either
@@AcidicBattery Read I dont really knows comment then the replys to and it will make sense
@@WatchALTER can you pls tell me the song that r at the end of the video
My heart jumped when I saw the kids with the animal heads
I wish they had those on for the entire time they were they're, and make up ways they died to represent the animals heads.
Fox can be she snuck a dirty fox into his room or something from the forest.
Goat was stubborn and disobeyed every thing her mother said.
Cat was curious about what was in the forest and went to explore.
Bird tried to run away but was returned by a police or something.
My take on this was what everyone else’s was but I was surprised nobody talked about what bobbin for apples also means in Druid history. When you cut open an Apple it has a pentagon(in a sense) and they use to do “bobbing” for apples in a ritualistic way where during Halloween they sacrificed people. I don’t recall what for but it seems the same way in this story. She must’ve killed each kid near Halloween as a sacrifice, but also because their dirty? If you notice on the calendar there’s a cut open Apple where you can see the seeds. 5 seeds. 5 children murdered. Idk the correlation but I found it interesting.
this is the type of comment filmmakers love!
Other people make horror films that depend on gore to be scary, but you never fail to make chills run down my spine with your amazing psychological thriller masterpieces
Who didn’t flosh the toilet after they’ve had their SHET?
It wasn’t me
Well it was fokin of of yus!
D I S G U S T A N G
Daddy Gru Oh yeah, Daddy Gru. Did the flexing GRU over you?
Oh my lord, thank you
I freaking laughed for like 2 minutes, I remember that video lmaoo!
I was waiting for this!!
I am avoiding laughing or my brother will rush over to see what happened
It shows 5 apples bobbing in the water, I'm gonna assume that each one represents one of the children she drowned 🤷♀️
you are right. Same with the number of cabbages.
@@JamesParker1998 ohhh cool cool
Its so cool tho remember when that teen kid say "my sisyer once kiss a frog and now she's dead" maybe its one of them and her mom (wich is this mom) killed her
@@doki1641 yeah I picked up on that, because she was a clean freak and would definitely have a fit if one of her kids kissed a FROG 😅
That’s a good theory
The horror starts at the very beggining, cause just the fact that the mother is like this scares me genuinly
The mother:I went through a lot of trouble making you that.
Ummm you just cut two holes and probs used a black sharpie
And wrote, "Boo."
"diy" youtubers as a mom
jkjj9000
Maybe she was referring to the emotional trouble of ruining one of her precious, pristine white sheets?
because it was a dirty job
Mom: Don't go near the children in the forest, they're dirty
Me: Yes, that's what's worrying about the Children in the Forest
😂😂 same
In stead of saying they will prolly kill you xD
this made me cackle
That made me laugh.
😂😂😂😂
Can we all appreciate the production team’s humor and pause at 2:46 to look at what shes signing?
“Wait a minute Mr. Postman”
Great catch
I saw that the first time
Noticed that too😂
@IamPUSHEENtheCAT th-cam.com/video/425GpjTSlS4/w-d-xo.html
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The first terrifying part that made me jump was the fact that she actually bought a kirby. I had to pause it and get a drink to calm myself. And she’s vacuuming the grass no less. I absolutely must keep watching to see if she actually uses the attatchments but excellent so far! 👍🏾😂
When did she buy a Kirby?
This was very well done! I grew up with an OCD parent and it was hell not being able to just "be a kid". I figured out pretty quickly they were her other "dirty" children and when her current child came back "filthy" she got rid of him too.
My mom had ocd, growing up with her was absolute hell. Just being a child was seen as gross and disgusting.
“That’s desgostang! Don’t be desgostang!” 😂 😂 😂
🇮🇪
Lmaoo😂😂😂😂
Dem Oirish are da crack!
That part took me out. Lmaoo. 😂💀😭 "I'm sorry momae...I'm sorry."
😂😂😂😂
At the start of the film her son had asked "Where do childer come from?" in which the mother replied with "Children come from the cabbage patch at the bottom of the garden". When the mother drowned her son, she buried him in the cabbage patch. I don't know if anyone else thought this but maybe because of her answer to her son's question she had other children that were murdered and buried there as well.
Sorry if this isn't explained well
why does he say childer instead of children though ?
@@aWERFRGT6545BGFG It's probably some accent or since he is young a mispronunciation I'm not sure though might have a deeper meaning to it
@@riley9785 I looked it up just then, and its just scottish slang. Ty for the help though
The 5 apples represent each of her children
@@jonahtaylor2175 yo, wut
I don't usually watch horror because of the jump scares but Alter videos gives off an unsettling or whatever it is called just not jump scares that makes me love their short films!
it took me way 2 long to realize that she was vacuuming the grass *facepalm*
yow the moment i seen that i was like oh she crazy
I saw that and I just said, "Who vacuums outside?" or something like that.
Wait you guys don’t vacuum the lawn regularly
NOW I KNOW I WASNT ALONE!!! I thought it was normal for the first felt like 10 seconds until it clicked and I realized *thats not normal*
Same lol
Sad part is theres actually people out there like that
You mean people who kill their children for getting dirty??
@@tasteless8669 yah :(
OCD lvl9999999
Yep. One of my daughter’s first words was “dirty”, no thanks to her dad. Pretty sure this film is about his brain. :/
@@lo-fidreamsASMR I am so very sorry! I can only sympathize with what your spouse did to your children. My dearest friend had a horrific and an absolute nightmare experience with her now ex husband and his actions, especially towards other children and not so sure of what happened to her (their) daughter. I hope your children and you are well.
Mom: not in the house...
Son: **silence**
Mom: **silence**
Frog: ribit
mom : WHERE'S MY KNIFE?!?!...DEGOSTANG!!!!
Kiana - chan me: NO MUM NOOOOO
the sheets were no longer stained when she came back from the woods! It's these little details that make it all. I love it
Surprised he made it to that age.
He must has never blown out a pamper
Lol funny must not
This lady took grounding to another level dang
Literally put them in the ground? 😂
Damn sis it be like that sometimes
She's one little crazy murderer that's why! I am glad I don't have a mother like that ! 😇😄
This is what I love about Alter - it’s always unconventional and interesting. Like I was a little tense but the real horror was the mother not the children.
I don't understand how someone could live by the woods and be that afraid of nature.
shes more afraid of outside influences and literal littering or pollution i think
I loved the visual of the five apples floating in water representing the kids...That's the moment where it clicked for me and I went Ahhhhhh
YES.
Okay i was wondering what what was up with Apple's
That's great
Also, bobbing for apples shows drowning connection.
And the egg dipping talking about the teacher having a new baby
And him asking "does she eat the baby? "
me now: Ahhhhhhh.....thanks for mentioning btw...
Some points I noticed:
- She doesn’t drink wine or coffee. Could that be because those drinks easily stain what they’re spilled on?
- She drowned her last child. Possibly because that would have been because it wouldn’t be as “dirty” as other methods?
Caffeine and red wine are commonly known to cause migraines to ppl who suffer from it.
“Last child”? What you mean her last one?
Too much wine or coffee is bad for pregnant people
She was kinda angry so she kinda had to drown her
Or Maybe she just knows better than to drink alcohol.
I like who she vacuums the grass. A whole new aesthetic mood
The five apples floating represent her five dead kids. There are just so many layers.
We just want to thank all of our fans who watch every film and begin discussing it in the comments. We love nothing more than to see all of the different interpretations and ideas the films provoke.
You're welcome! 👍
Keep up the good work!
You should do a collaboration with Crypt TV. You both bring cool elements into your videos and I think it'd be neat to see what you could do as a team.
ALTER thanx so much! I love this channel!
ALTER we love a bit of audience participation.
I don't watch every video, but every one I watch is amazing!
I finally got a theory: so the apples at the bottom of the stairs mean how many kids she had killed there where 4 kids but now after she killed another there was a apple added to the bucket. When she told the 4 kids to go home they said we are home witch means they used to be hers then at the end the boy became one of the kids that’s why you hear him laughing at the very end edit:(another small detail is the frog the 4 kids bring is the frog that died ) also just so you guys know the time line is kinda messed up
and when she said " the kids come from the cabbage patch aka garden and why the kids are covered in dirt. she killed the kids and buried them in the dirt under the cabbage
thanks buddy!!
Now I finally understand the meaning of this horror short. It becomes creepier thanks to you haha XD
PEACE!
why does she say
its almost November they should've died already .
how does she keep getting pregnant...the mailman? why doesnt he notice he knocks her up ? or that kids go missing?
TY!
@@dustin910721 私全然理解できない！！
i can’t ignore how adorable the son is 🥺😭 .
Fr
Well, you can now. He's dead
same!!!
Well I think he looks kinda ugly
@@BritishEmpire464 whatt :((
wow.. incredibly interesting seeing it from her perspective because the whole time it leaves you trying to figure out what is wrong until you slowly start to realize that she is absolutely insane
“I tOwd yOu nOt To plAy WiTh the ChAldran”
“MUmMy”
And I oop-
Ashes Fallen XD
Isnt that from flamingo?
robaitron fury isn’t what from flamingo?
F
LMAO
When I saw the kids just appear with the animal faces on I yeeted my phone across the room
why?
I do that 2
SAME!
@@anettbarta292 bruh did u not see how creepy that shit was
Trixie Soup Hanes ikr
My interpretation:
I feel like the children outside, described as 'feral' in the synopsis, were symbolic for her fear of disorganization and overall being unkempt. She couldn't control them, so she viewed them as a threat to her son, whom she could control and keep 'clean.' When he played with them, the mother then viewed him as 'contaminated.' Thus, she kills him; which in my opinion is a sign of weakness, of not being able to handle the thought that her son was unclean. She viewed him as being permanently altered (pun not intended) and the only way she knew how to make the idea go away was to put an end to him, to her intrusive thoughts. At the end, I almost thought that she was going to commit suicide due to her guilty conscience. However, when she didn't, I wondered how many times she had repeated that process. Again, just my interpretation, so who knows knows.
Hey there, I like your interpretation, especially with the symbolism of being unclean. You're a smart 14 year old. Maybe not mention age because there are some scary people out there who now know your name and age.
@@Muser4Life thank you very much! Also that's a good point, I should probably edit that out.
Should this be on reddit ??😂
@@tasteless8669 perhaps😂
Intend your puns, coward.
My real question is, how did she have so many children? Or were they not her children? that's crazy
exactly, and there's alot of possibilities that the mailman COULD be the father of mark, and also the other children. if so, WHY was he not concerned? like WHO are these kids?
"It's nearly November. Why aren't they dead yet?"
I am ashamed of how loudly I laughed at this.
I read this at the exact time she said that line
hahahahaha never seen you here before actually
@@jillrosecke997 probably because he wanted to know her and her kid better, and living the kind of live she lives, that could only end badly for her.
Thank god I’m not the only one! XD that line is so perfect lol
The line has a hidden meaning 😈
Found the perfect excuse to get off the phone. “Let me call you back i gotta vacuum this grass”
Lol
😂😂😂
Or to turn down an invite for us hermits
Brings new meaning to “ Cabbage Patch kids”
omg! this comment is underrated!
I couldnt understand why those little sprouts kept growing in the house
Oh my god yes
Ikr
Lmbo👄
I feel like the fact that this short is exactly
17: 00 minutes like on the dot is what makes it even freakier like this girl is vacuuming GRASS and I think that the time really adds to it
*A literal crum of food falls on table ... Lady: "D I S C O S T A N"
Not wrong.
ALTER I'm not gonna freak out cause you reply, but i'm gonna day that your short films are very good being entertaining and scary all in one. Keep up the good work!
@@whatthefreak3809 Thank you for watching! Stay ALTERed. 🖤
ALTER they are actually pretty good :)
"D I S C O S T A N"
What?
“Why does somebody not know how to flush a toilet after they’ve had a SHET???!"
D I S G O S T A N G ! ! !
D I S C U S T A N G
3:46
i'm gonna singing cher lloyd by... cher lloyd oooh
Lol!
3:44 Reminds me of that clip with the mean Scottish mom
*”Well, it was fooken one of yaus”* 🤣
Tr. Da. I think it went something like this
WHO DIDN’T FLUSH THE TOILET AFTER THEY HAD A SH*T? mommy it wasn’t me! WELL IT WAS F*CKING ONE OF YAHS!!! *inhales* DISGUSTING
was it that one?
@@justin_seagullshutupmalfoy8111 Yup🤣🤣🤣
Tr. Da. “DESGOSTEN!!!”
@@justin_seagullshutupmalfoy8111 👍
@@justin_seagullshutupmalfoy8111 shet fooken discustang
Why do i always head to the comment section and read the spoilers before watching the short😭
"It's almost November"
"Why aren't they dead yet?"
*Woah ok*
BlueAppleTea she killed her son on October 31. Makes so much more sense now she probably killed all of them before November r
@@allygp6834 thanks for explaining. I am still confused though. If the children in the forest are already dead, why is the lady still waiting for them to die again? Thanks
@@websurfer4672 because when the winter comes the cabbage patch will die
@@Matty80822 thanks for the explaination
@@websurfer4672 CHILDER comes from the bottom of the cabbage patch. She buried her child there, at at the end he was humming inside the forest. SO they are all dead and she probably killed them.
- Where the childer come from?
- Children come from the cabbage patch at the bottom of the garden
Now it all makes sense
George Franklin she buried them?
Bunny Baby yes
Alright fella's! Lets harvest some children after we plant 4 more and come back in 3days
She killed them
OMG
Mom: go and play
Him goes into the backyard and goes: *wOoooOoooOo* in a circle
Boring Life
The mother made me so uncomfortable the whole time. Very well done, Bravo!
Count how many cabbages were in the garden at the beginning, same as how many children in the film :)
Ever scroll through the comments thinking "I wish I wrote that, then maybe I'd get noticed... "?
Every time
yep 😑
Every video
Congrats, you've made it
Stuff that hints to the twist.
1. ''where do childer come from?'' ''children come from the cabbage patch at the bottom of the garden.''
2. ''go home'' ''we are home''
3. ''its nearly november. Why aren't they dead yet?''
4. Constant appearances of frogs, maybe?
5. ''Our sister kissed a frog once, but she's dead now''
6. Mark acting confused and scared to her mom after returning.
7. Apples in the water bowl.
8. Planting a cabbage patch after her she drowned her son (see point one)
Thats all that i noticed atleast
What does it mean the 'November' one, I didn't gei t it
@@glosscloudx yeah same.
Omg I didn't know that thing was cabbage seed lol I thought it was some sort of a ball.
Guys evidence she’s a serial killer:
1. She’s obsessed with being clean (Because of murdering)
2. All of those children where the ones she drowned (You can tell by the number of oranges after she drowns her “son” and the number of cabbages)
3. She’s in the middle of the woods, not many of those in England so she’s obviously hiding
4. She got nerves when the post officer says that the library is called “Bodie in the Library”
That’s all folksGuys evidence she’s a serial killer:
1. She’s obsessed with being clean (Because of murdering)
2. All of those children where the ones she drowned (You can tell by the number of oranges after she drowns her “son” and the number of cabbages)
3. She’s in the middle of the woods, not many of those in England so she’s obviously hiding
4. She got nerves when the post officer says that the library is called “Bodie in the Library”
That’s all folks
@@glosscloudx they come out* during October (since its spooky season) I think:)