Great story.. Love to hear them. i did LP work for a couple years in several grocery stores chains. Being a few years removed from that profession, i still cant shop without noticing everyone and even find myself watching "certain people" for too long, just "to see what they take". i also worked in the wild west times. So many good/bad stories. Made some great friends. And we still have those, "hey remember that one time" phone calls. If the money had been better, would have probably stayed longer.
Glad you’re enjoying them & thanks for watching! I’m the same way. I can’t help it. & yeah, so many lifelong friends made working LP. A bond we carry for life.
I’ve been in loss prevention for 36 years two years as a deputy several years as a private investigator and oh my God dude I’m sure we could all laugh about some of the stories we both have
Wow! Man I am blown away! That is a crazy series of events that just kept escalating into something more. That’s very cool but wild stuff! You seem like a super nice guy too so I’m glad you came out all good at the end. 👍🏻👍🏻
When I first started LP I weighed 175lbs, grew out my hair & didn’t have any tattoos. But back when things were a little rougher, I got thrown around like a rag doll & I got a little sick of it. So I made the change & low & behold, nobody messed with me anymore. Lol But you’re right, we definitely tend to have some similarities. Lol
Great Video! SilverHammer Surveilance i am also currently in The Loss Prevention industry after spending the last 20 plus years as a Uniformed Security Officer and in the Law Enforcement field. I am just getting started in the Loss Prevention industry side of Security after only about three weeks and still being new lol!! wearing a uniform with all the duty gear and a open exposed weapon is such a huge!! difference!! I'd much rather be plainclothes and under cover than being out in the open as I've been all this time! be safe SilverHammer Surveilance i am now a new subscriber to your channel!
@@GeorgeLangabeer Thank you so much!! I am honored and feel very privileged to be a part of this great fraternity of Loss Prevention and investigative professionals!!
Chris, I get where your coming from. I was going to post a general comment on this exact topic SIVERHAMMERSURVEILLANCE. Going from uniform, duty belt/gear for all levels of Defense And Arrest Tactics, training based instict establishing instant determination what level you need to be at via the state's use of force continuum vs. suspects actions and demeanor and had the equipment and training to establish situational awareness and control. Officer safety is out the window its complete opposite in LP and felt so wrong violationg every ofc. Safto make an LP stop or chase susp. LP style...often alone, often outside to car you dont know what or whoUnknown wWisconsin referred to D.A.A.T.
Honestly, that sounded like a bigger crime happening in that apartment. They can't be all related. Hopefully no one has been hurt or human trafficking happening. Peace to you and all involved. Any follow up on this story?
Some follow up…about 10 years later I busted another shoplifter (with a language barrier) & low & behold, guess who came to pick him up (after the cop cited & released him)…the same restaurant owner from this story. So 10 years later, he was still doing the same thing. 🙄
Those people are just trying to make a living and help their families. They probably get paid beans so they try to supplement their income any way they can, but it's not human trafficking. They're here willingly because they make more money than anywhere else.
I really don't understand the choice to make this stop first of all. And secondly, why you ever left the property. It would not have been a bad stop as you had said because you recovered the pointer. I'm just confused by the whole series of events bud
If you watched, you know I said it was the dumbest thing I’ve ever done & explained exactly what you’re asking. It was the wild Wild West back then. & side note, it would have been a bad stop via our company policy, doesn’t matter what the law says.
if you're relatively young and have some savings put away, pick a trade and start an apprenticeship before you apply to any LP openings. the stress ain't worth it, mate
Still... we need more people like you, to even out all the people who wouldn't dare do a lick of good their whole life long. No regrets, your fam raised you right!
I'm at 11 mins wondering how this is gonna turn left 😂 oh boy bahahaha, 13 mins in and holy shit! 😅omg... that was an awesome lil story, shit! That was good! Thank you!
Twenty years ago I remember my company’s civil restitution being $200 or 3 times the amount, whichever is greater (in Ohio). It was still lower than what the state allowed.
Yeah, it was a frustrating process. It especially sucked because the amount collected was part of our performance review. So we were punished simply because the laws were horrible. I ended my career in Iowa and the laws there were much better than Nebraska.
I miss certain aspects. Mostly, the special bond with the people I worked with. But I’m glad I got out when I did. The writing was definitely on the wall. I feel for our LP brothers and sisters still out there keeping up the good fight.
Really interested watch I am a LOP for TKMAX only just started great at the customer service side need to improve on my crime 100% just taking it day by day on my journey to becoming the complete Loss prevention officer just want to say thanks for making it much appreciated keep up the good work pal take care Lee 👍
Fast forward to nowadays, can't even pass the sidewalk to get a license plate. Understandable though. Several thieves and employees have gotten run over and cost the companies a lot more money than whatever they were stealing.
When the police officer decided they were not charging the criminal end of it that is the moment you have to release that person. If they want to sit there in Cold Stone silence there's nothing you can do about it and you have to release that person immediately. If you were to hold them against their will then it is kidnapping. It is like that in several States.
1. It was arranged by law enforcement during a criminal detention. 2. He was willingly with me & let me in. No laws were broken. I broke company policy doing what I did, but I didn’t break any laws.
I would of been fired super quick if I did any of that and my boss got wind of it lmao. Like you said though, safety alone is why LP/AP should never do that type of stuff.
Nowadays, shoplifting is so easy it's unbelievable. Just take what you want, if LP stops you, tell them you're leaving and they're not aloud to touch you or chase you and just walk out. It's easy as that. Who needs to worry about cameras when the people who're watching you can't do anything?
That’s one of the reasons I got out of the loss prevention game. They were starting to restrict us too much. As far as cameras go, they are still a very useful tool in aiding loss prevention. Even if they have to let the shoplifter go initially nowadays, there are still a ton of shoplifters prosecuted everyday because of evidence provided to PD, thanks to the cameras.
LP is absolutely allowed to stop you. Alot of companies don't allow it, but it is not illegal to prevent shoplifters from leaving. My company still let's us go hands on.
Yep. Just depends on the company & their policies. Definitely not illegal. We have a retailer here that not only are they still hands on, but their LPs are also armed. Low & behold, they don’t have nearly the shoplifting problem some of the hands off retailers do.
I can’t even tell you how many habitual shoplifters told me they’d be back at it the next day, because they knew they were just getting a misdemeanor ticket.
WTF were you doing leaving the property? Seriously? I have 20 years+ experience in Security and Loss Prevention. You should have been arrested. Dude... You Don't leave the property. You are lucky YOU didn't get arrested.
You think I’m the only LP that left the property in the last 20 years?! What companies have you worked for?? Lol…It happened all the time back in the day. I’m not saying it was smart, hence the title of the video, but it happened all the time and if you’ve been in it 20+ years, you know I’m not the only one. As far as getting arrested, it was the police officer that sent me over there to meet him! Lol
@@GeorgeLangabeer not to be rude, but I thought you were the one who suggested to the police officer to meet you at the apartment building? Or did I hear that wrong?!
I just meant the police officer fully endorsed what I was doing. I had a long standing relationship with that police officer (and all the officers in that city). He responded to my calls on a daily basis & knew me well. He wasn’t going to arrest me. There was nothing for me to be arrested for. The shoplifter invited me in.
I was only caught shoplifting once. A $5 Sears catalogue with a $5 rebate, so it was worth $0 if I had used the rebate. I've seen so many shoplifters let go with a warning or never even touched. Seems to me, if anyone should have got a warning, it's me. Also, I didn't resist, but if I did I'd likely get away.
First off that's the old days..lol to hear a catalogue is an item is hilarious ( and I do remember ). I just think it all depends on who is making the stop...their mood...the situation at hand is all taken into account.
Yo Silver Hammer! I am going to be working at a Target as asset protection, and I am “not supposed to touch anyone or chase them”, or apprehend them even I believe. Seeing that, I’m thinking it’s not going to be physical, right? Is there a sizable chance I’ll just get hit in the face or shoved when stopping shop lifters or what? It’s right by a train station that comes from Chicago so lots of crackheads and thugs even though it’s a nice town. I am looking for a job where I will not get hurt, and curious your take
They could turn this into a hollywood movie with jackie chan as the laser thief and it turns into a bruce willis danny glover plot to assassinate president swartzenager. " i would have got away with it if it wasnt for that dam security guard !"
@@GeorgeLangabeer - I had such fun! Only had two people over the years charged with attempted murder of me -- one with a car, another with a gun. The gunshot missed but the car hit and I had a broken arm. With that cast on I caught so many shoplifters as no one suspects a woman with a cast to be a store detective!
I loved hiring females as my investigators. They are always underestimated, have more patience & they are way more level headed than dudes. I always loved watching them outperform the men. Lol
@@GeorgeLangabeer - In pre-camera days when it was almost all floor work, women fit in so much better and drew less notice from shoplifters. Men might as well have signs reading SECURITY when "shopping" in womens departments, accessories, lingerie and such. A women shopping in the mens underwear department never drew attention!
It's just my opinion,buut you know the system is messed up when he says he has to file ah charge/lawsuit for$60.00 OVER A$5 Lazer pointer, now I'm not condoning anyone stealing, even though it's only a inexpensive Lazer pointer, still it's not right no matter what it is!. But how does he not have the power to just take his information and let him no to not come back there at the least,. instead of having to waste time dealing with it and having to waste the courts time to have to deal with it also.. Call me crazy but the whole thing just seems very excessive to me!. (( But I do understand I'm thinking about it in hindsight and no experience with loss prevention tactics and shop lifting..
Yeah, it’s not that simple. Thieves talk. Thieves network. Laser pointer or not, stealing is stealing. You let one go & they tell their other thief friends. If you’re the retailer that “let’s them go” you don’t survive as a retailer. Also the mentality of “it’s just a laser pointer” is exactly how thieves start as amateurs & then graduate to professionals. It’s like the thief’s version of a gateway drug. You start stealing small things & next thing you know you’re stealing thousands of dollars worth of merchandise. So you have to nip it in the bud before it starts. That’s how you change lives for the better. Then there are corporate policies and laws to take into account. If you handle stopping someone for shoplifting improperly, it can turn into false imprisonment. There’s a lot more that goes into it, than you can possibly understand, unless you’ve done the job.
We had a zero tolerance policy for theft. That word gets around. When thieves know they can’t steal from your store and get away with it, they move on to a retailer that they know they can get away with it.
@@GeorgeLangabeer but in that case do you really think that's what would of happened?((him telling his friends that he got caught stealing and the L.P let him go, and told him he was trespassed, so I don't get how him telling his friends would be a bad thing? sence he still got caught and would of been trespassed!? trying to think how he would of,I think it would of had the same outcome.. obviously you disagree,but admitting that you could of handled it different doesn't mean you we're wrong? Iv been in his situation and thy did what I had just said, and I NEVER DID IT AGAIN!!. And honestly if the under cover would of charged me it would of had the same outcome,.for me atleast
As I said, you wouldn’t understand. It was our corporate policy. Once we had someone in our office, we had to follow through. There was no option at that point. If you look at the theme of the video, I said “it was the dumbest thing I’ve ever done”, so clearly I was stating I did something wrong. But there was never an option to just let him go, starting from the moment he stepped foot in my office.
20 years ago in Delaware Walmart I saw somebody get tackled. Nowadays in Delaware outside of Wilmington. If you steal they just say ,awe, l that poor guy or girl must have really needed that, what failures we are as a society to create such poor people that feel they need to steal. Now go hand them some money and tell them how bad you feel that you had the privilege of working your ass off every day for your money and your food and the roof over your head. You could over them a job that usually doesn't work out too well
0:45 so whenever i leave Walmart or wherever and going to my truck, sometimes I'll see 2-3 squad cars parked near front doors, no lights tho. It's that why they're there? I've always thought they were getting paperwork or grabbing something in a hurry. Or to pickup someone actually caught shoplifting. But then I'd imagine they wouldn't shop on duty and would usually park normally. So they must've been called for a potential active shoplifter? ME lol I know I've likely been suspect plenty and once i was taking my time and while on pet isle looking for dog treats all of a sudden a uniformed deputy turned the corner and we actually looked at each other, simply bc she caught my attention. I just figured she was looking for something too. I just continued on and eventually got to self checkout. When i got to register i noticed a small huddle of cops casually talking to each other nearby and thought not too much of it. Then also saw a known asset protection guy about 5 lanes down looking back into the store in women's clothing direction (uhh ok) with his phone camera straight into my direction like he was talking on phone. As i was leaving i realized they were likely there for me hahaha. But wtf, i wasnt stopped, so not sure. Same thing at a grocery store, and as i was leaving i literally walked right past a cop walking in and his squad car was parked in front, then another pulled up behind him. I'm thinking they were there for me again. As i was leaving i stopped edge of parking lot and saw him exit store minutes later with nothing in hand. Hmmm. Were they there to potentially arrest me discourage me, or possibly confront with trespassing warning to not go back? And if either of the times the police actually were there for me, why didn't they stop or arrest me at all? And let's say i did clepto some stuff, does the video or surveillance actually need to witness or prove the theft, and that maybe none were caught in act real time? And did that mean the store called 911 when they saw/recognized me or of the facial recognition pinged me?
I have been applying for lp jobs lately and I was actually thinking of installing babbel translator on my phone for extenuating circumstances like this .
Can someone get a job in loss prevention even if i were suspect in past? If that was case, i could argue experience and mindset of a shoplifter for good help.
Wow if that was the Wild West, what do you call the new flash mob smash and grab thefts ? Why can’t these high end stores figure out how to tie down the expensive hand bags etc, even Apple stores? How about don’t display actual working phones or put trackers on them. These high end stores have the money to pivot and enhance security.
We had the flash mob smash n grabs back then, We just didn’t have a fancy name for it yet. Lol…it was more about what we were allowed to do back then. If you stole from us, we were bringing you in no matter what. Now they have LP’s & AP’s hands so tied, it’s almost impossible to fight all that. But you’re absolutely right about those stores needing more sophisticated measures to fight theft.
@@GeorgeLangabeer How can I reach you ? Retiring in 10 months from a career in somewhat a similar field. 😉😎🤫 would love to explore options related to this in retirement. Thanks. Website ? Called the number didn’t go through, I’m in South Florida
Hmmm. I just tried the number and it worked fine. We are closed today however. Feel free to contact me on Monday. Try the number at the top or bottom of the homepage. Or from the “contact” page of the site.
I just had one of my old partners catch a family of four with 5000 worth of perfume from 4 local pharmacy .come to find out the four are wanted all over Canada for ort the investigation so far has come up with almost 150000 and counting .even better the four only spoke Romanian.
What do you suggest a customer do when they witness shoplifting the local store I go has a problem with people just walking in and grabbing stuff and the cashiers and manager say they can't do anything?! wtf lol.
Yeah, it’s super frustrating the limitations that retailers have now. Sadly, as a customer, I’d let it go. It’s not your job to worry about it & it’s not worth putting your life in danger. Mess with the wrong person & you could be toast.
Lol. Yeah, I was young & dumb and things were way different back then. But it sounds like you’ve also made your share of questionable decisions 😋. I miss it. Pay wasn’t an issue at the retailer I was at. As a LP Manager we made more than our local police officers (which is sad & ridiculous). But I saw the writing on the wall & had to get out. That’s awesome that you love your new gig. Sounds like you’re happier & safer.
@@GeorgeLangabeer happier - hell yes safer - that's debatable... electricity mixed with sketchy construction contractors can be a mighty dangerous combo!!
What happens when the cashier scans and item or two for some customers yet some customers don't notice until they get home. Aren't they stealing too for Walmart or any store. This has happened to me. And I'm sure many people. But those companies keep your money without having a way of paying it back.some customers don't report it like I said they are home .
Crime has to have ‘intent’, so If a person clearly accidentally gets something, it’s a loss for the store, but not a crime. Now if the person and the cashier are working together to scam the store, that’s a different story.
@@GeorgeLangabeer I've done stupid things in lp to like chase a guy away in a parking lot over some boots but I had to get it together real fast nobody will help you if someone wants to attack or stab you. Or corporate sees. I work at home Depot now and I only go for the big orc groups it's more of a loss anyway. Sad because your on your own in the end you can build relations with police and management
I had a great relationship with Managment and the Police Department. In fact, I built such good relations with Managment, I’m married to my first store manager. Lol
In the 13 years I did that job, I thankfully never got hurt and I thankfully never hurt anyone else. I had countless store employees that always had my back and I’m grateful for them to this day.
Something similar. Back from Iraq Dec 2005, I was going down escalator in a Target store. A group of Muslim folks was at the bottom, I recognized their language. They collected at the end and did not clear out. Not reacting after I announced myself, I walked through them, with their yelling, until I yelled in their language. A HS football guy tried to man up for them, not knowing the story. Teenage boy tried making girl points with police threats using the security guy. Security guy watched too many police movies not realizing having no arrest authority. The store manager called police and went overboard with offenses that did not happen on the recorded video. A State Trooper confirmed I was correct. Store Manager claim to fame failed. It went south when I told them I would have a lawsuit, complete with video. HS hero was put in cuffs and taken to the station as a scare tactic. Security guy was fired for many similar events. I left with a big screen TV as an early Christmas present.
Did you not listen to the story? Lol…he wouldn’t write down the apartment number. That’s the entire point. I knew the address to the apartment building.
Hell no. That’s just straight up not true. Never saw that happen in all my years in LP with any of the people I worked with (and I worked with a lot). There might be a pervert or two out there somewhere, but definitely not “many” and definitely not where I worked. Their ass would be fired in a heartbeat.
Honest question, you seem like a hardworking and dedicated employee, did the company or companies you worked for recognize that and promote and pay you accordingly, or were you risking your life and limb for peanuts and no appreciation?
I totally get why some LPs feel like they are under paid & unappreciated. A lot of people (employees) don’t get how dangerous it can be. As you said, you are risking your life for the company you work for. But for me, I worked for some amazing people and always felt appreciated. As far as the pay, I was always paid fairly. I actually wanted to be a Police Officer when I started LP, but soon stopped that pursuit once I realized how much I could make in LP (plus, make my own schedule). My only complaint (at the company I worked at the longest), was the lack of opportunities to be promoted. There just wasn’t much room to move up unless I wanted to go “main store” and I just didn’t want to leave LP.
@@GeorgeLangabeer wow, i totally understand if you're not at liberty to share what companies treated you so well but i'm very curious. definitely doesn't sound like your run of the mill walmart, target, etc. minimum wage is the going rate, which is 15 an hour in my state of CT which used to be decent but now you could work at any job and get that with zero risk. and like you said promotion and raise opportunities, at least for the companies i see hiring for these jobs in my area, aren't so great. now if you're in it for 5-10 years at one company you might get 18. i made more at a moving company, which was safer and gets you in amazing physical shape, but LP is far more fun. i also wanted to be a cop, but i'm on a prescription that bars me from entering a lot of departments here.
I spent most of my career at ShopKo (a regional retailer). I worked there for 13 years and minus a few corporate leadership regimes, they treated us very well and paid very well. I also worked at Nebraska Furniture Mart (a large chain furniture/electronics store that started here in Nebraska) and they also treated us very well. They treated the LP department more like a mini police department and gave us lots of respect. In the beginning of my career I worked LP for a mom & pop grocery store. There, I didn’t make much, but I always felt respected. But I’ve known a ton of LPs from other companies and just like what you’re saying, I know I was very lucky and not in the majority. It’s a very dangerous and tough job sometimes and when not appreciated for it, it’s very unfortunate.
Risking your life? Bit of a stretch, no? I mean yeah in this story by making the decision to go inside an unknown building is a little sketch (normally this wouldn’t occur) but your life is as much risk as any other employee you work with.
@@jrose7381 depends how serious some people take their job and what they're willing to do as far as confronting certain people. it's not unheard of to have people stabbed and sliced, although i haven't heard of actual deaths but people have gotten pretty fucked up. and that usually happens where they're getting 12 bucks an hour at some walmart in a shitty city
Guns and knives? Yea I hope you had a bulletproof vest , I only did loss prevention in a supermarket in a nice neighborhood and I barely catch people I guess I was lucky but bored.
HARDWARE INDUSTRY HAS COME UP WITH A NEW SYSTEM WERE WHEN YOU BUY A TOOL YOU TAKE IT THROUGH THE CASH .THIS ACTIVATED THE TOOL . SO IF YOU STEAL THE TOOL IT DOES NOT WORK .HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING FOR LP .I KNOW HOMR DEPOT USING THIS SYSTEM.
Dam. Knock down drag back. What if you accidentally... The wrong guy❓ I concealed carry. You could have lost your life. Dam Bro, this is dangerous . If anyone runs up on me..... Fk. This ain't cool. No hands on saves your life with me.
This is how it was back then. Happened all the time. I look back on it and realize how crazy it was, but it wasn’t just me, that’s how it was for all of us in that job (on a daily basis). Nowadays, it’s completely different. Everyone is hands off and scared of lawsuits. It’s still dangerous, but they aren’t put in the situations we were back then (for the most part).
0:57 "cowgirl"? Lol a woman working loss prevention is somehow seems more funny than a woman being a cop... At least cops have more tools, and more leeway to use those tools.
In my experience, females often times did better in the loss prevention world (compared to males). They are generally more level-headed and tend to be smarter on the job. As far as the physicality aspect, it’s all about how you carry yourself. I trained some women that made grown ass men cry for their mom.
Not quite. My employee pulled his badge, but never identified himself as a police officer. The dude with the duffel bag full of stolen CDs almost caused the accident. Not us.
Ha... I ran after a guy that stole OTC products for about 5 blocks... I thought i lost him... Then i hear something in the alley... It was him sitting in a dark corner... I approached him and announced myself as AP... Real dark alley, 5blocks away from the store, with a hype that doesn't want to go to jail... He started to move and look for something... At this point I figured hey, let my flash him my pistol (conceal carry)... He automatically gave back all the OTC products and jetted outta town... As im walking back to the store, I was thinking...FUCK, how am I going to narrate this for my boss without him looking at video of me running after a guy.... So, I took a lost and didnt even report it... Smdh... In retrospect, a lot of things could've gone wrong for me. But like you, I wanted that info for Palmer... But I didn't get the credit or restitution... But I got to catch him properly a out 2weeks later... They always come back. Stay safe fellow AP/LP.
Lol. Damn. & I thought mine was bad. 😂. But trust me, I know how it is when you’re in the thick of it. It gets crazy in a heartbeat. Thanks for sharing!
You know what i think this a fine example as why people stop doing the right thing along time ago! Just look at the hoops and bullsht you had to go through that even the cops didn't want to be part of they where hoping you drop the case and just move on! I mean is that job going to fire you over a laser point? And if you don't say anything or report it how they gonna find out? You think they gonna find time to go throughout all those cameras to find something that they don't even know is missing? Did they even give a raise or a promotion and how would that go? "Hey everyone we giving this guy a promotion for catching a laser pointer thief who speaks chinese! He went to the police but they did nothing so it was up me! We search his home, his lively and nothing, we almost gave up but finally we get a clue and force the thief for an address that was pulled out the thieves ass!" Sounds Like it was some sort of movie trailer!
Damn. That guy stealing that laser pointer probably got a lot of people in a lot of trouble. Most of those people were probably here illegally and were working for cash, likely to take care of their families. Sad all the way around.
Because there wasn’t a felony crime involved, nothing happened to any of them. As far as I know, those restaurant owners still have all their employees living in that building.
Made more money than I could as a police office, Made my own schedule and didn’t have to shave. I had the chance to be a police office and turned it down. I loved my job and had great passion for it. Not a single regret and had a blast. And now it’s led me to running a very successful business and to having a blossoming and successful TH-cam channel. I bet that’s more than you can say. But hey, thanks for watching and helping my channel with your miserable comment.
@@GeorgeLangabeer Consumer theft is wrong, I personally would never steal and I think it is immoral to steal. If you want something work your butt off and get it. But for me I just find it odd how passionate most of you retail workers are towards consumer theft but not wage theft. The biggest form of theft is wage theft, not consumer theft. Yes I’m sure you thought you earned well, but guess what? Whatever you earned you should have earned more yet most companies would rather pocket millions for themselves and their family than pay their employees what they are worth. You seem like one of the few who actually know how to catch thieves but I have so many incidences where I am followed by an worker or an obvious undercover LP worker and it never not infuriates me because I’m black. Yes because I’m black because I make an effort to dress nice and still get profiled and treated like a criminal. I have had to call numerous managers, confront people politely of course, and take an extra 10-15 minutes to follow them around (yes it’s petty but I don’t care). You’re supposed to observe suspicious behavior. I’m still trying to understand what is so suspicious about my behavior when I’m there to simply shop and get out? I don’t even like grocery shopping. Now makeup stores like Sephora or Ulta? That’s one thing, I can be in there all day. A lot of LP do not know how to do their jobs. They simply stereotype or judge someone due to race and go from there. If they knew what they were doing I wouldn’t be harassed and followed dressing in SKIN TIGHT clothes 99% of the time. My leggings literally don’t even have pockets, and my active wear jacket is skin tight so no big pockets. If I stuffed something in there it would be too obvious. I’m sorry but a lot of retail workers (not you) are plain dumb, so I treat them as such 😂.
I’m glad you think you’re funny. I’d love to hear you tell that story in 2 minutes. How about you start your own TH-cam Channel & you summarize it in 2 minutes. I’ll be the first to critique. Go…
I didn’t realize I was still a security guard. I thought I was a guy that owns a multi million dollar company & a monetized TH-camr. You enjoy collecting your allowance living in your moms basement & I’ll keep doing my thing…
@@GeorgeLangabeer Hey guy, I'm not sure if you're aware but you know that you can turn comments off on your channel LOL.... I'm sorry that you don't have a thick skin and believe that everybody is supposed to just massage your ego and not be allowed to give you any kind of criticism.... Get over yourself or turn your comments off
You don’t know me well enough to call me bro, bro. Get a little more creative with your comments please. Sucks to waste my time responding to such lame ridiculousness. But again. Thanks for the comment and helping my channel…BRO.
Be proactive, be patient & try not to get bored. Remember in the boring times, that you could have the most exciting day of your life at any moment. Always remember, the eyes are the indicator that the hands will steal.
Great story.. Love to hear them. i did LP work for a couple years in several grocery stores chains. Being a few years removed from that profession, i still cant shop without noticing everyone and even find myself watching "certain people" for too long, just "to see what they take". i also worked in the wild west times. So many good/bad stories. Made some great friends. And we still have those, "hey remember that one time" phone calls. If the money had been better, would have probably stayed longer.
Glad you’re enjoying them & thanks for watching! I’m the same way. I can’t help it. & yeah, so many lifelong friends made working LP. A bond we carry for life.
I’ve been in loss prevention for 36 years two years as a deputy several years as a private investigator and oh my God dude I’m sure we could all laugh about some of the stories we both have
Sounds like you’ve had quite the career. I’m sure we could! If you ever want to share a tale or two on the Channel, let me know!
How did you do a fake job for 36 years?
Wow! Man I am blown away! That is a crazy series of events that just kept escalating into something more. That’s very cool but wild stuff! You seem like a super nice guy too so I’m glad you came out all good at the end. 👍🏻👍🏻
Lol. Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
@@GeorgeLangabeer 👍🏻👍🏻
why all LP officers look the same ☠️😭😂
When I first started LP I weighed 175lbs, grew out my hair & didn’t have any tattoos. But back when things were a little rougher, I got thrown around like a rag doll & I got a little sick of it. So I made the change & low & behold, nobody messed with me anymore. Lol
But you’re right, we definitely tend to have some similarities. Lol
Legally required
Thought the laser pointer in the thumbnail was a needle
Lol. Nope. Maybe if a needle was involved, the person would have been worth the effort I put forth in this one. Lol
Same
Whenever I’m shopping I feel like people think I’m acting suspicious and it makes me look even more suspicious
Lol. Same here. I’m always checking everyone out & looking at the cameras.
Great Video! SilverHammer Surveilance i am also currently in The Loss Prevention industry after spending the last 20 plus years as a Uniformed Security Officer and in the Law Enforcement field. I am just getting started in the Loss Prevention industry side of Security after only about three weeks and still being new lol!! wearing a uniform with all the duty gear and a open exposed weapon is such a huge!! difference!! I'd much rather be plainclothes and under cover than being out in the open as I've been all this time! be safe SilverHammer Surveilance i am now a new subscriber to your channel!
Welcome to the LP family! We’re all brothers & sisters for life!
Thanks for watching & thanks for subscribing!
Stay safe as well!
@@GeorgeLangabeer Thank you so much!! I am honored and feel very privileged to be a part of this great fraternity of Loss Prevention and investigative professionals!!
Happy Hunting!
@@GeorgeLangabeer definitely so!! take care and God bless brother!
Chris, I get where your coming from. I was going to post a general comment on this exact topic SIVERHAMMERSURVEILLANCE. Going from uniform, duty belt/gear for all levels of Defense And Arrest Tactics, training based instict establishing instant determination what level you need to be at via the state's use of force continuum vs. suspects actions and demeanor and had the equipment and training to establish situational awareness and control. Officer safety is out the window its complete opposite in LP and felt so wrong violationg every ofc. Safto make an LP stop or chase susp. LP style...often alone, often outside to car you dont know what or whoUnknown wWisconsin referred to D.A.A.T.
back in the good ol days..lots of good memories
whether it was a big or low dollar amount, the adrenaline dump was the same.
Yep. Loved them all!
Honestly, that sounded like a bigger crime happening in that apartment. They can't be all related. Hopefully no one has been hurt or human trafficking happening. Peace to you and all involved. Any follow up on this story?
Some follow up…about 10 years later I busted another shoplifter (with a language barrier) & low & behold, guess who came to pick him up (after the cop cited & released him)…the same restaurant owner from this story. So 10 years later, he was still doing the same thing. 🙄
Those people are just trying to make a living and help their families. They probably get paid beans so they try to supplement their income any way they can, but it's not human trafficking. They're here willingly because they make more money than anywhere else.
Exactly.
I really don't understand the choice to make this stop first of all. And secondly, why you ever left the property. It would not have been a bad stop as you had said because you recovered the pointer. I'm just confused by the whole series of events bud
If you watched, you know I said it was the dumbest thing I’ve ever done & explained exactly what you’re asking. It was the wild Wild West back then. & side note, it would have been a bad stop via our company policy, doesn’t matter what the law says.
This is the craziest story, hahahaha! I'm in armed security myself, and looking at some LP openings. Thanks for sharing.
Nice! Good luck in your search & thanks for watching!
if you're relatively young and have some savings put away, pick a trade and start an apprenticeship before you apply to any LP openings. the stress ain't worth it, mate
Still... we need more people like you, to even out all the people who wouldn't dare do a lick of good their whole life long. No regrets, your fam raised you right!
Starting a Macys AP job tomar and im gonn watch this whole vid , wish me luck 💪🏽
Good luck & happy hunting! Thanks for watching!
I'm at 11 mins wondering how this is gonna turn left 😂 oh boy bahahaha, 13 mins in and holy shit! 😅omg... that was an awesome lil story, shit! That was good! Thank you!
😂. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
That WAS crazy! You were one dedicated employee!
That’s one way to put it. Lol
Some people steal cause it's there last hope of desperation. I feel for them. Thanks for the story.
Yes they do. I encountered them quite often. Always sad.
I'm sure it's harder when they risk there freedom for there kids😔
Especially when the risk didn’t pay off & I’d have to sit there & watch their kids get taken away.
@@GeorgeLangabeer sad I'm sure. Happy 4th!
To you as well!
Twenty years ago I remember my company’s civil restitution being $200 or 3 times the amount, whichever is greater (in Ohio). It was still lower than what the state allowed.
Yeah, it was a frustrating process. It especially sucked because the amount collected was part of our performance review. So we were punished simply because the laws were horrible. I ended my career in Iowa and the laws there were much better than Nebraska.
@@GeorgeLangabeer I’m so grateful I no longer work in the industry. 11 years in LP was enough for me.
I miss certain aspects. Mostly, the special bond with the people I worked with. But I’m glad I got out when I did. The writing was definitely on the wall. I feel for our LP brothers and sisters still out there keeping up the good fight.
Really interested watch I am a LOP for TKMAX only just started great at the customer service side need to improve on my crime 100% just taking it day by day on my journey to becoming the complete Loss prevention officer just want to say thanks for making it much appreciated keep up the good work pal take care Lee 👍
Thanks for watching!
Fast forward to nowadays, can't even pass the sidewalk to get a license plate.
Understandable though. Several thieves and employees have gotten run over and cost the companies a lot more money than whatever they were stealing.
Yep. Just a different World nowadays. I understand why they do it, just sucks that the thieves no it too.
Thanks 🙏 for sharing this story.
Thanks for watching!
This story is incredible lmao. Wow, who what’ve thunk it!
Lol. I can’t believe I let it get that far. So crazy.
Damn I have heard some stories but this tops it
The measures this LP guys go to catch a shoplifter 😂😂😂
It was a pretty crazy ride. Lol
I have 3 friends in AP...all 3 have been fired ...different cases...all bullshit....its a tough job now days
Wow, that really sucks. Sorry to hear that. I loved the job, but I’m glad I got out when I did. The writing was on the wall.
>civil restitution
God, I hate our judicial system now.
It can be frustrating for sure. Thanks for the comment.
When the police officer decided they were not charging the criminal end of it that is the moment you have to release that person. If they want to sit there in Cold Stone silence there's nothing you can do about it and you have to release that person immediately. If you were to hold them against their will then it is kidnapping. It is like that in several States.
Isnt that illegal to follow him home just to get his address?
1. It was arranged by law enforcement during a criminal detention. 2. He was willingly with me & let me in. No laws were broken. I broke company policy doing what I did, but I didn’t break any laws.
@@GeorgeLangabeer oh ok well happy you are ok. That was a crazy day for you
I’ve never stole anything before in my whole life and seeing people steal makes me sick to my stomach
As it should be.
@@GeorgeLangabeer are you lauding me or is it the opposite? I can’t really tell from your comment. Thank you
No, I’m saying that’s how it should be.
@@PraveenSrJ01 huh
I would of been fired super quick if I did any of that and my boss got wind of it lmao. Like you said though, safety alone is why LP/AP should never do that type of stuff.
I sound like an 80 year old man when I say this…it was a different time back then. Lol
Damn that's crazy man.
Lol. It was indeed.
Nowadays, shoplifting is so easy it's unbelievable. Just take what you want, if LP stops you, tell them you're leaving and they're not aloud to touch you or chase you and just walk out. It's easy as that. Who needs to worry about cameras when the people who're watching you can't do anything?
That’s one of the reasons I got out of the loss prevention game. They were starting to restrict us too much. As far as cameras go, they are still a very useful tool in aiding loss prevention. Even if they have to let the shoplifter go initially nowadays, there are still a ton of shoplifters prosecuted everyday because of evidence provided to PD, thanks to the cameras.
LP is absolutely allowed to stop you. Alot of companies don't allow it, but it is not illegal to prevent shoplifters from leaving. My company still let's us go hands on.
Yep. Just depends on the company & their policies. Definitely not illegal. We have a retailer here that not only are they still hands on, but their LPs are also armed. Low & behold, they don’t have nearly the shoplifting problem some of the hands off retailers do.
I can’t even tell you how many habitual shoplifters told me they’d be back at it the next day, because they knew they were just getting a misdemeanor ticket.
WTF were you doing leaving the property? Seriously? I have 20 years+ experience in Security and Loss Prevention. You should have been arrested. Dude... You Don't leave the property. You are lucky YOU didn't get arrested.
You think I’m the only LP that left the property in the last 20 years?! What companies have you worked for?? Lol…It happened all the time back in the day. I’m not saying it was smart, hence the title of the video, but it happened all the time and if you’ve been in it 20+ years, you know I’m not the only one. As far as getting arrested, it was the police officer that sent me over there to meet him! Lol
@@GeorgeLangabeer not to be rude, but I thought you were the one who suggested to the police officer to meet you at the apartment building? Or did I hear that wrong?!
I just meant the police officer fully endorsed what I was doing. I had a long standing relationship with that police officer (and all the officers in that city). He responded to my calls on a daily basis & knew me well. He wasn’t going to arrest me. There was nothing for me to be arrested for. The shoplifter invited me in.
@@GeorgeLangabeer ah ok thank you for explaining that ☺️
If a customer is harassing you and you tell your managers and they don't take you seriously, what do you do. 2:00
I was only caught shoplifting once. A $5 Sears catalogue with a $5 rebate, so it was worth $0 if I had used the rebate. I've seen so many shoplifters let go with a warning or never even touched. Seems to me, if anyone should have got a warning, it's me. Also, I didn't resist, but if I did I'd likely get away.
First off that's the old days..lol to hear a catalogue is an item is hilarious ( and I do remember ). I just think it all depends on who is making the stop...their mood...the situation at hand is all taken into account.
Love your energy. Honest and you give a f@@k. Bravo.
Lol. Thanks for that & thanks for watching!
Yo Silver Hammer! I am going to be working at a Target as asset protection, and I am “not supposed to touch anyone or chase them”, or apprehend them even I believe. Seeing that, I’m thinking it’s not going to be physical, right? Is there a sizable chance I’ll just get hit in the face or shoved when stopping shop lifters or what? It’s right by a train station that comes from Chicago so lots of crackheads and thugs even though it’s a nice town. I am looking for a job where I will not get hurt, and curious your take
If you follow their rules, I’m sure you’ll be fine.
They could turn this into a hollywood movie with jackie chan as the laser thief and it turns into a bruce willis danny glover plot to assassinate president swartzenager. " i would have got away with it if it wasnt for that dam security guard !"
Ah, the good old days. I was a store detective starting in 1975 ...
Nice! So you were definitely “old school”.
@@GeorgeLangabeer - I had such fun! Only had two people over the years charged with attempted murder of me -- one with a car, another with a gun. The gunshot missed but the car hit and I had a broken arm. With that cast on I caught so many shoplifters as no one suspects a woman with a cast to be a store detective!
I loved hiring females as my investigators. They are always underestimated, have more patience & they are way more level headed than dudes. I always loved watching them outperform the men. Lol
@@GeorgeLangabeer - In pre-camera days when it was almost all floor work, women fit in so much better and drew less notice from shoplifters. Men might as well have signs reading SECURITY when "shopping" in womens departments, accessories, lingerie and such. A women shopping in the mens underwear department never drew attention!
Lol. I have no doubt it was very beneficial!
It's just my opinion,buut you know the system is messed up when he says he has to file ah charge/lawsuit for$60.00 OVER A$5 Lazer pointer, now I'm not condoning anyone stealing, even though it's only a inexpensive Lazer pointer, still it's not right no matter what it is!. But how does he not have the power to just take his information and let him no to not come back there at the least,. instead of having to waste time dealing with it and having to waste the courts time to have to deal with it also..
Call me crazy but the whole thing just seems very excessive to me!. (( But I do understand I'm thinking about it in hindsight and no experience with loss prevention tactics and shop lifting..
Yeah, it’s not that simple. Thieves talk. Thieves network. Laser pointer or not, stealing is stealing. You let one go & they tell their other thief friends. If you’re the retailer that “let’s them go” you don’t survive as a retailer. Also the mentality of “it’s just a laser pointer” is exactly how thieves start as amateurs & then graduate to professionals. It’s like the thief’s version of a gateway drug. You start stealing small things & next thing you know you’re stealing thousands of dollars worth of merchandise. So you have to nip it in the bud before it starts. That’s how you change lives for the better. Then there are corporate policies and laws to take into account. If you handle stopping someone for shoplifting improperly, it can turn into false imprisonment. There’s a lot more that goes into it, than you can possibly understand, unless you’ve done the job.
We had a zero tolerance policy for theft. That word gets around. When thieves know they can’t steal from your store and get away with it, they move on to a retailer that they know they can get away with it.
@@GeorgeLangabeer but in that case do you really think that's what would of happened?((him telling his friends that he got caught stealing and the L.P let him go, and told him he was trespassed, so I don't get how him telling his friends would be a bad thing? sence he still got caught and would of been trespassed!? trying to think how he would of,I think it would of had the same outcome.. obviously you disagree,but admitting that you could of handled it different doesn't mean you we're wrong? Iv been in his situation and thy did what I had just said, and I NEVER DID IT AGAIN!!. And honestly if the under cover would of charged me it would of had the same outcome,.for me atleast
As I said, you wouldn’t understand. It was our corporate policy. Once we had someone in our office, we had to follow through. There was no option at that point. If you look at the theme of the video, I said “it was the dumbest thing I’ve ever done”, so clearly I was stating I did something wrong. But there was never an option to just let him go, starting from the moment he stepped foot in my office.
I have no regrets actually stopping him though. Stealing is stealing & our job was to detain people stealing.
A big percentage of theft is from employees
Indeed it is.
20 years ago in Delaware Walmart I saw somebody get tackled. Nowadays in Delaware outside of Wilmington. If you steal they just say ,awe, l that poor guy or girl must have really needed that, what failures we are as a society to create such poor people that feel they need to steal. Now go hand them some money and tell them how bad you feel that you had the privilege of working your ass off every day for your money and your food and the roof over your head. You could over them a job that usually doesn't work out too well
The loss prevention game has definitely changed dramatically in the last 20 years.
Damn we can turn this into a scary movie
Lol. It was more like a comedy of errors on my part. Could have gone horror real quick though.
OLD days, You got arrested, no matter what.
So, what should you have done instead..?
I should have called our corporate office and explained why I couldn’t get his information.
0:45 so whenever i leave Walmart or wherever and going to my truck, sometimes I'll see 2-3 squad cars parked near front doors, no lights tho. It's that why they're there? I've always thought they were getting paperwork or grabbing something in a hurry. Or to pickup someone actually caught shoplifting. But then I'd imagine they wouldn't shop on duty and would usually park normally. So they must've been called for a potential active shoplifter? ME lol
I know I've likely been suspect plenty and once i was taking my time and while on pet isle looking for dog treats all of a sudden a uniformed deputy turned the corner and we actually looked at each other, simply bc she caught my attention. I just figured she was looking for something too. I just continued on and eventually got to self checkout. When i got to register i noticed a small huddle of cops casually talking to each other nearby and thought not too much of it. Then also saw a known asset protection guy about 5 lanes down looking back into the store in women's clothing direction (uhh ok) with his phone camera straight into my direction like he was talking on phone. As i was leaving i realized they were likely there for me hahaha. But wtf, i wasnt stopped, so not sure. Same thing at a grocery store, and as i was leaving i literally walked right past a cop walking in and his squad car was parked in front, then another pulled up behind him. I'm thinking they were there for me again. As i was leaving i stopped edge of parking lot and saw him exit store minutes later with nothing in hand. Hmmm. Were they there to potentially arrest me discourage me, or possibly confront with trespassing warning to not go back? And if either of the times the police actually were there for me, why didn't they stop or arrest me at all? And let's say i did clepto some stuff, does the video or surveillance actually need to witness or prove the theft, and that maybe none were caught in act real time? And did that mean the store called 911 when they saw/recognized me or of the facial recognition pinged me?
wtf bro...
yes, yes and yes LOL
I have been applying for lp jobs lately and I was actually thinking of installing babbel translator on my phone for extenuating circumstances like this .
Yeah, Google translate was a thing by the end of my LP career, but not back when this happened. Sure would have come in handy.
$60 dollars is $60 dollars if I get my throat cut in here it is what it is lol
Can someone get a job in loss prevention even if i were suspect in past? If that was case, i could argue experience and mindset of a shoplifter for good help.
Good thing you didn't end up like Christopher Newsom of Knoxville Tennessee
But did you get the $60?
I sure did. lol
@@GeorgeLangabeer did you TH-cam the name Christopher Newsom from Knoxville Tennessee, lp
I did not, but I will ASAP.
Just googled it. Good thing indeed! That’s nuts!
Wow if that was the Wild West, what do you call the new flash mob smash and grab thefts ? Why can’t these high end stores figure out how to tie down the expensive hand bags etc, even Apple stores? How about don’t display actual working phones or put trackers on them. These high end stores have the money to pivot and enhance security.
We had the flash mob smash n grabs back then, We just didn’t have a fancy name for it yet. Lol…it was more about what we were allowed to do back then. If you stole from us, we were bringing you in no matter what. Now they have LP’s & AP’s hands so tied, it’s almost impossible to fight all that. But you’re absolutely right about those stores needing more sophisticated measures to fight theft.
@@GeorgeLangabeer How can I reach you ? Retiring in 10 months from a career in somewhat a similar field. 😉😎🤫 would love to explore options related to this in retirement. Thanks. Website ? Called the number didn’t go through, I’m in South Florida
Hmmm. I just tried the number and it worked fine. We are closed today however. Feel free to contact me on Monday. Try the number at the top or bottom of the homepage. Or from the “contact” page of the site.
I just had one of my old partners catch a family of four with 5000 worth of perfume from 4 local pharmacy .come to find out the four are wanted all over Canada for ort the investigation so far has come up with almost 150000 and counting .even better the four only spoke Romanian.
Damn! That’s a nice chunk of change.
Sounds like Gypsies.
What do you suggest a customer do when they witness shoplifting the local store I go has a problem with people just walking in and grabbing stuff and the cashiers and manager say they can't do anything?! wtf lol.
Yeah, it’s super frustrating the limitations that retailers have now. Sadly, as a customer, I’d let it go. It’s not your job to worry about it & it’s not worth putting your life in danger. Mess with the wrong person & you could be toast.
what a bizarre set of circumstances...
i could see myself doing something dumb like this... thankfully I never made apprehensions for
Lol. Yeah, I was young & dumb and things were way different back then. But it sounds like you’ve also made your share of questionable decisions 😋. I miss it. Pay wasn’t an issue at the retailer I was at. As a LP Manager we made more than our local police officers (which is sad & ridiculous). But I saw the writing on the wall & had to get out. That’s awesome that you love your new gig. Sounds like you’re happier & safer.
@@GeorgeLangabeer happier - hell yes
safer - that's debatable... electricity mixed with sketchy construction contractors can be a mighty dangerous combo!!
What happens when the cashier scans and item or two for some customers yet some customers don't notice until they get home. Aren't they stealing too for Walmart or any store. This has happened to me. And I'm sure many people. But those companies keep your money without having a way of paying it back.some customers don't report it like I said they are home .
Crime has to have ‘intent’, so If a person clearly accidentally gets something, it’s a loss for the store, but not a crime. Now if the person and the cashier are working together to scam the store, that’s a different story.
Just got the job any advice
Patience is key. Hang in there & don’t get frustrated when you’re bored. Be competitive with your coworkers & make it fun.
You went out of your lane follow policy always
LP was a different game back then, but as I said in the video, it was the dumbest thing I’ve ever done.
@@GeorgeLangabeer I've done stupid things in lp to like chase a guy away in a parking lot over some boots but I had to get it together real fast nobody will help you if someone wants to attack or stab you. Or corporate sees. I work at home Depot now and I only go for the big orc groups it's more of a loss anyway. Sad because your on your own in the end you can build relations with police and management
I had a great relationship with Managment and the Police Department. In fact, I built such good relations with Managment, I’m married to my first store manager. Lol
In the 13 years I did that job, I thankfully never got hurt and I thankfully never hurt anyone else. I had countless store employees that always had my back and I’m grateful for them to this day.
Something similar. Back from Iraq Dec 2005, I was going down escalator in a Target store. A group of Muslim folks was at the bottom, I recognized their language. They collected at the end and did not clear out. Not reacting after I announced myself, I walked through them, with their yelling, until I yelled in their language. A HS football guy tried to man up for them, not knowing the story. Teenage boy tried making girl points with police threats using the security guy. Security guy watched too many police movies not realizing having no arrest authority. The store manager called police and went overboard with offenses that did not happen on the recorded video. A State Trooper confirmed I was correct. Store Manager claim to fame failed. It went south when I told them I would have a lawsuit, complete with video. HS hero was put in cuffs and taken to the station as a scare tactic. Security guy was fired for many similar events. I left with a big screen TV as an early Christmas present.
Why didn't you just look up the apartment complex and use their address on record and have him write the apartment number?
Did you not listen to the story? Lol…he wouldn’t write down the apartment number. That’s the entire point. I knew the address to the apartment building.
I have heard that many LP agents inappropriately touch shoplifters in their private areas. I think that is just wrong. Did you ever do that?
Hell no. That’s just straight up not true. Never saw that happen in all my years in LP with any of the people I worked with (and I worked with a lot). There might be a pervert or two out there somewhere, but definitely not “many” and definitely not where I worked. Their ass would be fired in a heartbeat.
Honest question, you seem like a hardworking and dedicated employee, did the company or companies you worked for recognize that and promote and pay you accordingly, or were you risking your life and limb for peanuts and no appreciation?
I totally get why some LPs feel like they are under paid & unappreciated. A lot of people (employees) don’t get how dangerous it can be. As you said, you are risking your life for the company you work for. But for me, I worked for some amazing people and always felt appreciated. As far as the pay, I was always paid fairly. I actually wanted to be a Police Officer when I started LP, but soon stopped that pursuit once I realized how much I could make in LP (plus, make my own schedule). My only complaint (at the company I worked at the longest), was the lack of opportunities to be promoted. There just wasn’t much room to move up unless I wanted to go “main store” and I just didn’t want to leave LP.
@@GeorgeLangabeer wow, i totally understand if you're not at liberty to share what companies treated you so well but i'm very curious. definitely doesn't sound like your run of the mill walmart, target, etc. minimum wage is the going rate, which is 15 an hour in my state of CT which used to be decent but now you could work at any job and get that with zero risk. and like you said promotion and raise opportunities, at least for the companies i see hiring for these jobs in my area, aren't so great. now if you're in it for 5-10 years at one company you might get 18. i made more at a moving company, which was safer and gets you in amazing physical shape, but LP is far more fun. i also wanted to be a cop, but i'm on a prescription that bars me from entering a lot of departments here.
I spent most of my career at ShopKo (a regional retailer). I worked there for 13 years and minus a few corporate leadership regimes, they treated us very well and paid very well. I also worked at Nebraska Furniture Mart (a large chain furniture/electronics store that started here in Nebraska) and they also treated us very well. They treated the LP department more like a mini police department and gave us lots of respect. In the beginning of my career I worked LP for a mom & pop grocery store. There, I didn’t make much, but I always felt respected. But I’ve known a ton of LPs from other companies and just like what you’re saying, I know I was very lucky and not in the majority. It’s a very dangerous and tough job sometimes and when not appreciated for it, it’s very unfortunate.
Risking your life? Bit of a stretch, no? I mean yeah in this story by making the decision to go inside an unknown building is a little sketch (normally this wouldn’t occur) but your life is as much risk as any other employee you work with.
@@jrose7381 depends how serious some people take their job and what they're willing to do as far as confronting certain people. it's not unheard of to have people stabbed and sliced, although i haven't heard of actual deaths but people have gotten pretty fucked up. and that usually happens where they're getting 12 bucks an hour at some walmart in a shitty city
Guns and knives? Yea I hope you had a bulletproof vest , I only did loss prevention in a supermarket in a nice neighborhood and I barely catch people I guess I was lucky but bored.
I just had my handcuffs & my street smarts. Lol
HARDWARE INDUSTRY HAS COME UP WITH A NEW SYSTEM WERE WHEN YOU BUY A TOOL YOU TAKE IT THROUGH THE CASH .THIS ACTIVATED THE TOOL . SO IF YOU STEAL THE TOOL IT DOES NOT WORK .HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING FOR LP .I KNOW HOMR DEPOT USING THIS SYSTEM.
I have seen it. It’s a great idea.
THAT'S INNOVATIVE
You have to "activate" a tool? Explain please if you could?
@@danmilosevich it has a special tag on it that prevents it from being able to start if it is stolen instead of going through .
@@matthewwright3751 wow. Way out there. So like a screwdriver can't be used if stolen? What is this system called?
There’s never been that serious I’m sorry dude but this is dangerous you could lose your life over a piece of merchandise
It was 20 years ago and I was young and dumb. No way I would do it today.
Yuppp criminals get all the rights!!!! That's one contributor to society crumbling one of them!
Dam. Knock down drag back.
What if you accidentally...
The wrong guy❓
I concealed carry.
You could have lost your life.
Dam Bro, this is dangerous .
If anyone runs up on me.....
Fk. This ain't cool. No hands on saves your life with me.
This is how it was back then. Happened all the time. I look back on it and realize how crazy it was, but it wasn’t just me, that’s how it was for all of us in that job (on a daily basis). Nowadays, it’s completely different. Everyone is hands off and scared of lawsuits. It’s still dangerous, but they aren’t put in the situations we were back then (for the most part).
@@GeorgeLangabeer Thank God.
Oh, Merry Christmas Bro.
Merry Christmas to you as well.
0:57 "cowgirl"? Lol a woman working loss prevention is somehow seems more funny than a woman being a cop... At least cops have more tools, and more leeway to use those tools.
In my experience, females often times did better in the loss prevention world (compared to males). They are generally more level-headed and tend to be smarter on the job. As far as the physicality aspect, it’s all about how you carry yourself. I trained some women that made grown ass men cry for their mom.
@@GeorgeLangabeerthat is really cool and I definitely respect ✊ that and respect women
Question, I'm 14 and love shoplifting from Walmart if back in the day you caught me would you still press charges ??
100% yes.
So you try to impersonate a cop , almost get 12 people ran over 10:59 ?
Not quite. My employee pulled his badge, but never identified himself as a police officer. The dude with the duffel bag full of stolen CDs almost caused the accident. Not us.
😂😂😂 an asset protection agent is not even supposed to leave the store.. this dude was at his house 🤦♀️😂wtf
As I said in the video…not the smartest thing I’ve ever done.
Ha... I ran after a guy that stole OTC products for about 5 blocks... I thought i lost him... Then i hear something in the alley... It was him sitting in a dark corner... I approached him and announced myself as AP... Real dark alley, 5blocks away from the store, with a hype that doesn't want to go to jail... He started to move and look for something... At this point I figured hey, let my flash him my pistol (conceal carry)... He automatically gave back all the OTC products and jetted outta town... As im walking back to the store, I was thinking...FUCK, how am I going to narrate this for my boss without him looking at video of me running after a guy.... So, I took a lost and didnt even report it... Smdh... In retrospect, a lot of things could've gone wrong for me. But like you, I wanted that info for Palmer... But I didn't get the credit or restitution... But I got to catch him properly a out 2weeks later... They always come back. Stay safe fellow AP/LP.
Lol. Damn. & I thought mine was bad. 😂. But trust me, I know how it is when you’re in the thick of it. It gets crazy in a heartbeat.
Thanks for sharing!
You never know what someone is going through. Times are tough and people have to survive.
Very true.
You discovered a slavery crime ring.
You know what i think this a fine example as why people stop doing the right thing along time ago! Just look at the hoops and bullsht you had to go through that even the cops didn't want to be part of they where hoping you drop the case and just move on! I mean is that job going to fire you over a laser point? And if you don't say anything or report it how they gonna find out? You think they gonna find time to go throughout all those cameras to find something that they don't even know is missing? Did they even give a raise or a promotion and how would that go? "Hey everyone we giving this guy a promotion for catching a laser pointer thief who speaks chinese! He went to the police but they did nothing so it was up me! We search his home, his lively and nothing, we almost gave up but finally we get a clue and force the thief for an address that was pulled out the thieves ass!" Sounds Like it was some sort of movie trailer!
8:20 you can't just ask for a wallet, or pull yours out to show "give me your id". ?? ( end of the story I get why he wasn't giving you info, wow )
He didn’t have ID. I had a badge on when I stopped him & the cop was in uniform. He knew what was going on.
@@GeorgeLangabeer word. thanks for being involved with comments : )
Damn. That guy stealing that laser pointer probably got a lot of people in a lot of trouble. Most of those people were probably here illegally and were working for cash, likely to take care of their families. Sad all the way around.
Because there wasn’t a felony crime involved, nothing happened to any of them. As far as I know, those restaurant owners still have all their employees living in that building.
If try hard was a person
Hope he feels like a real man stopping a mother for providing for her children.
Lol. A mother? This story had nothing to do with a mother.
Wow! Karen
The idea of LPs having a badge is a farce 😂
I’m glad you think you’re funny. I think your comment is a farce.
Couldn't make it as a real police officer.
Made more money than I could as a police office, Made my own schedule and didn’t have to shave. I had the chance to be a police office and turned it down. I loved my job and had great passion for it. Not a single regret and had a blast. And now it’s led me to running a very successful business and to having a blossoming and successful TH-cam channel. I bet that’s more than you can say.
But hey, thanks for watching and helping my channel with your miserable comment.
I thought for sure that was going to be an immigration thing
Nope. Immigration wouldn’t touch it unless there was a felony crime involved.
Now days you get stabbed
I’m lucky I didn’t back then.
You guys are wack bad cop was so annoyed waste this time with a laser pointer
So you think stealing something is ok and not illegal, as long as it’s just something small like a laser pointer?
@@GeorgeLangabeer stealing is never okay
No, it’s not.
@@GeorgeLangabeer Consumer theft is wrong, I personally would never steal and I think it is immoral to steal. If you want something work your butt off and get it. But for me I just find it odd how passionate most of you retail workers are towards consumer theft but not wage theft. The biggest form of theft is wage theft, not consumer theft. Yes I’m sure you thought you earned well, but guess what? Whatever you earned you should have earned more yet most companies would rather pocket millions for themselves and their family than pay their employees what they are worth. You seem like one of the few who actually know how to catch thieves but I have so many incidences where I am followed by an worker or an obvious undercover LP worker and it never not infuriates me because I’m black. Yes because I’m black because I make an effort to dress nice and still get profiled and treated like a criminal. I have had to call numerous managers, confront people politely of course, and take an extra 10-15 minutes to follow them around (yes it’s petty but I don’t care). You’re supposed to observe suspicious behavior. I’m still trying to understand what is so suspicious about my behavior when I’m there to simply shop and get out? I don’t even like grocery shopping. Now makeup stores like Sephora or Ulta? That’s one thing, I can be in there all day. A lot of LP do not know how to do their jobs. They simply stereotype or judge someone due to race and go from there. If they knew what they were doing I wouldn’t be harassed and followed dressing in SKIN TIGHT clothes 99% of the time. My leggings literally don’t even have pockets, and my active wear jacket is skin tight so no big pockets. If I stuffed something in there it would be too obvious. I’m sorry but a lot of retail workers (not you) are plain dumb, so I treat them as such 😂.
When a 2-minute story takes 20 LOL
I’m glad you think you’re funny. I’d love to hear you tell that story in 2 minutes. How about you start your own TH-cam Channel & you summarize it in 2 minutes. I’ll be the first to critique. Go…
@@GeorgeLangabeer oh wow that was supposed to be pretty tongue-in-cheek I didn't realize you were such a sensitive security guard LOL.....
@@GeorgeLangabeer now before you tell me that your daddy can beat up my daddy just let it go guy it's TH-cam
I didn’t realize I was still a security guard. I thought I was a guy that owns a multi million dollar company & a monetized TH-camr. You enjoy collecting your allowance living in your moms basement & I’ll keep doing my thing…
@@GeorgeLangabeer Hey guy, I'm not sure if you're aware but you know that you can turn comments off on your channel LOL.... I'm sorry that you don't have a thick skin and believe that everybody is supposed to just massage your ego and not be allowed to give you any kind of criticism.... Get over yourself or turn your comments off
This is a stupid story
But yet you still watched it. Thanks for all that positivity & thanks for the view. 🙄
Have a lovely day.
Are you for real bro
You don’t know me well enough to call me bro, bro. Get a little more creative with your comments please. Sucks to waste my time responding to such lame ridiculousness.
But again. Thanks for the comment and helping my channel…BRO.
Boring af
But yet you watched it anyway? 😂. Sorry you were so dissatisfied.
Thanks for watching & thanks for the comment?? Lol 🙄
I bet you’re a thrill a minute.
@@GeorgeLangabeer lol 😂
Any tips for a new LP at a Walmart in Texas?
Be proactive, be patient & try not to get bored. Remember in the boring times, that you could have the most exciting day of your life at any moment.
Always remember, the eyes are the indicator that the hands will steal.
Get another job
I loved my job. Wouldn’t trade the 15 years I did LP for anything.