Notice how in the third round of the first game Daigo does not jump in at ken even once. He neutral jumps to get over fireballs, and he jumps to setup a wakeup crossup hurricane kick when ken's waking up. Otherwise no jumping. So amazingly good.
Look at the 1st match's 3rd round. Daigo knew that Momochi was gonna ultra like in the 2nd round but what Momochi didn't know was that Daigo knew that Momochi didn't not know.
@ssbbtriforcepit33 - ...not who, what. It's a website that makes image or video based jokes about games and whatever. Halolz is what got me introduced to jokes such as "My friends call me Hadouken because I'm DOWN, RIGHT FIERCE"
@MrSlaughteredu Which Street Fighter game are you playing? In SSFIV, Ryu does have faster fireballs, Kens are faster than in vanilla but are still not as fast as Ryus, and Ryu cant really trade into Ultra anymore, its character specific. So you still have to combo into it.
@TMALATERALUS Ya me too. His heart wasnt in it with Yun man. Anyways, there you go, this is from SSF4 anyways, which 2012 is alot more similar too. Everyone dropping the twins now that they arent the only chars you can play.
@ssbbtriforcepit33 - I know the joke, I just wanted to comment how he really got into playing Ryu (and you discovered the joke from Halolz didn't you?)
@MrSlaughteredu nope ryu's HP hadouken is faster than ken's HP hadouken... my opinion though... but momochi played a really good ken. the vids just search momochi vs tokido its in SF4 not SSF4
@MrSlaughteredu I have also been playing SSFIV since Day one, Ryu is one of my mains and I can tell you, trading to Ultra I, 95.9999% of the time RARELY, if not ever happens. The fireball thing is easy: I'll PM you the link. I'll be waiting for that cash... lol
Counter pickers aren't more skilled than character specialist. They're just smarter. Everyone should always have a second or third character to play with in case of a bad match up.
@topbluffa1 Ooh, I do doubt that. Unless I'm mistaken and I don't think I am, Daigo is one of the best if not /the/ best SF4 players in the world. The reason they spam Hadouken is because the fireball controls a lot of space, which is essential for fighting games. Basically, it's a good move and they don't give a shit about being cheap. :P Not many high tier players do in any game. A move is cheap because it's good, and if you want to beat a cheap move, find a way around it.
Me and my friend main ken and ryu, and our matches' general gameplay are awfully similar to when daigo and momochi plays. I must say Ryu has much better odds against ken as their moves are very similar but ryu's moves have generally better priority with better hit/hurtbox placement. ryu can easily link most of his normals into hardknockdown, links his ultra in many ways and he simply win in the fireball war.
I notice daigo (ryu) never jump towards momochi (ken). And When ever Momochi jumps towards daigo, daigo punishes him with his shoryuken. I think Capcom reduced ken's Hadoken way to low. In sf2 the speed was about the same. I think its sad that Ken's Hadoken is only faster than Dan's and only the female characters.
I main ken but I play ryu also, ken is more fun IMO but ryu is definitely the better character. More solid in almost every major department except mixups.
It's just so unlucky. Momochi is trying but he just can't break Daigo down. Watching it I really can't think of anything I'd do differently. Daigo never comes to you.
Yeah, games like Tekken have more emphasis on target combos. Once you get an opening, the moment change is ridiculous. This is why I like Street Fighter 4's system. More emphasis on strategy outside of combos.
@anthonygamer haven't played or followed sf4 since vanilla and even watching recent high level play (EVO2k11) the majority of players didn't use ken. give me a name of someone who uses ken in ae so i can see what he's capable of
Every creationist/religious person states you can't disprove religion, therefore you can't say "I'm" wrong. The philosophy of religion is simple. Teachings that equal to the value of morals to make sure civilization doesn't stray off the wrong path. Of course it's easier for the drunken man to be happier than a sober one much like a believer and a skeptic. The believer will say it's better to believe because I benefit if it does exist but even if it doesn't, it wont hurt to pray... God damn
in my opinion if momochi used ryu he stood a better chance... ryu has faster fireballs and knocks down on ex hit and more importantly more links to ultra specially in tight situations... when you need to land an ultra for round enders
I'm not stupid and therefore know that a large number of people are Christians. Let me rephrase: The first group to believe him were homeless people who were crazy and believed every bit of crap that spewed from his lips. There are tons of arguments that deny the existence of such an omnipotent being. 1) SCIENCE 2) Christianity in a nutshell - A man came back to life to cleanse the world of sins that are present in society because a rib-woman ate an apple given to her by a snake (seems legit)
I don't understand what the viewers complaining about the game play are expecting to see when watching high level play. Perhaps somebody could enlighten me?
dude daigo is considered to be the best for a reason...he is the most consistent out of all the players in the world, nobody even comes close to what he managed to pull off out of all these years. and since when is using the same character over and over lame? ryu isn't even considered that strong anymore and still daigo manages to make him look OP. oh and you're saying that counter-pickers in tournaments are more skilled than character specialists? you seem to know nothing at all.
lol you cant just "spam" hadoken... if ur litterally just spamming it its so easy to punish daigo knows the spaceing so he knows if he cant get hit why not go for the push damage and make them do something
Either way id rather believe in god and never find out he isnt real if i die believing and cease to exist than to not believe in him and find out he is real when i die.
@phaseisgay Momochi sure as hell "broke Daigo down" when he selects Gouki..... Anyhoo, Momochi has Daigo figured out and vice versa. these matches pretty much boil down to which character is superior, not which player is superior. In my opinion, Momochi trumps Daigo when it comes to shotos. Momochi is a more cunning player
"Ono has stated that this system was incorporated in order to shift the emphasis away from combos and toward a more realistic system he has compared to boxing, in which 'the skill is in reading your opponent's move before he or she starts moving ... We haven't forgotten about combos and linked moves, but focus makes it so that you have to read your opponent.'" Dumbass. Also, Daigo plays Yun just fine. The top tier characters include Cammy, Fei Long, and Adon, none of which have fireballs.
why did you put a religious quote here? its a bit irrelevant seeing as its a gaming vid. stop arguing. And it shouldnt matter what other people think, he shouldnt impose his views on him and you shouldnt impose your views. Im just here to see daigo but i hate these kind of arguments, no one wins and everyone just gets annoyed,
You cant say for certain its false, and no the middle ages are a perfect example of the opposite people fought for their religion like people still do today. There is no cure for cancer so not praying isnt advantageous from your point of view either. There is no amount of action that will rid the world of lunatics because someone will view you as a lunatic for trying. If their wasnt religion people would find something else to fight about. Youre not promised anything in religion, it falls on you
what the fuck options does ken have in this game? has mediocre fbs and i see no other way of closing distance with him.. i know his kara is useful but wtf do you do when you get zoned like this with him?
I'm dont care about this.. and he is one of 5 top players... I'm talking about the boring and spam game. I wanna see one champion playing with E-honda, Zangief or another char without fireballs.... sure that this guy is a top player for me.
Reducing the importance of combos? Dont be dumb kid... every SF games continues emphazing the strategy, combos and tactics.. but one of the 5 top players of the world continues using only hadowken. Tell Daigo if he wanna play with a char without fireball in next champ...
"The only ones that believed him" 33% of the entire world are christian and how could you possibly know that? I had no idea you were alive over 2000 years ago and were intelligent enough to count and remember how many people followed and believed in jesus..Common sense used to be the world was flat but religion still remains to be disproved, there is no argument that will win the intelligence of an omnipotent being is greater than yours and thats why you cant take my faith away.
HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, MEDIUM KICK, HADOUKEN, HADLOUKEN, HADOUKEN, TATSUMAKI, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, MEDIUM KICK, HADOUKEN, SHORYUKEN, HADOUKEN, HADOUCKEN, MEDIUM KICK, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, TATSUMAKI... QUE JUEGO CON ABURRIDO ES STREET FIGHTER.
Dude... I know nothing? ok... I know one thing... the best player create cool combos and strategies.. What strategy of Daigo? How many time he played as another char? Guile once... Yun.. 2 times... Use Counter-pickers and cancel shoriukens to make a special move... and use spam shit hadowkens? Omg... The midia made this virgin guy as the best player in the World.
Notice how in the third round of the first game Daigo does not jump in at ken even once. He neutral jumps to get over fireballs, and he jumps to setup a wakeup crossup hurricane kick when ken's waking up. Otherwise no jumping. So amazingly good.
Thank you TH-cam for recommending classic SF4 magic. SF5 players won't find me here.
@MrSlaughteredu I believe LordAboragine (forgot exact spelling) has alot of them. SF4 era though.
@ssbbtriforcepit33 - In truth, it was actually (apparently) because of Alex Valle that he plays Ryu today.
Look at the 1st match's 3rd round.
Daigo knew that Momochi was gonna ultra like in the 2nd round but what Momochi didn't know was that Daigo knew that Momochi didn't not know.
@ssbbtriforcepit33 - ...not who, what. It's a website that makes image or video based jokes about games and whatever. Halolz is what got me introduced to jokes such as "My friends call me Hadouken because I'm DOWN, RIGHT FIERCE"
@MrSlaughteredu
Which Street Fighter game are you playing? In SSFIV, Ryu does have faster fireballs, Kens are faster than in vanilla but are still not as fast as Ryus, and Ryu cant really trade into Ultra anymore, its character specific. So you still have to combo into it.
Awesome space control and preassure!
This match up is so entertaining, the mental game is really up there
@TMALATERALUS Ya me too. His heart wasnt in it with Yun man. Anyways, there you go, this is from SSF4 anyways, which 2012 is alot more similar too. Everyone dropping the twins now that they arent the only chars you can play.
@MrSlaughteredu well but tokido has beaten momochi in akuma mirror matches in 2 different big japanese tournaments
@Spongink read the instruction book when you buy a game.
also its sf. st is super turbo.
2 Punches or 2 kicks. Example: Ex Hadouken = Hadouken Motion (Down, Front) + 2 Punches, or Ex Tatsumaki = Tatsumaki Motion (Down, Back) + 2 kicks.
that second round was beautifully played on Momochi's part
@Toushirou00 How do you know that he dropped Yun for Ryu?
Let's not forget the large balls of pure plasma summoned at will because of a spoken phrase. ^_^
@Toushirou00 Oh man! Im glad Daigo is using Ryu again
Actually look up RYU DAIGO ae2012 and you can see hes been playing/dominating with ryu again.
Pfffff that is some solid Ryu god damn! How he moves ... it's just ... human :D
@RobCardIV "You're spamming your pawns, stop that"
@ssbbtriforcepit33 - I know the joke, I just wanted to comment how he really got into playing Ryu (and you discovered the joke from Halolz didn't you?)
This is a noob question but how do u block? I just bought ST IV and i dont know how to block ;(
@Spongink press opposite direction where you facin
yes, because martial artists perform real combos where they juggle a person endlessly and hit them when they're down.
2:14 that stutter step was soo godlike.... holy shit i wish i could do that that good.
Oh~ Thank you very much~
@yellowhelloable i'd be surprised. too many bad matchups still
EXCELLENT Spacing by Daigo ...
Yes, I do.
What do mobas have to do with anything?
@MrSlaughteredu nope ryu's HP hadouken is faster than ken's HP hadouken... my opinion though... but momochi played a really good ken. the vids just search momochi vs tokido its in SF4 not SSF4
@MrSlaughteredu
I have also been playing SSFIV since Day one, Ryu is one of my mains and I can tell you, trading to Ultra I, 95.9999% of the time RARELY, if not ever happens. The fireball thing is easy: I'll PM you the link. I'll be waiting for that cash... lol
I wish the timer would stop when someone does an ultra.
Counter pickers aren't more skilled than character specialist. They're just smarter. Everyone should always have a second or third character to play with in case of a bad match up.
@MrSlaughteredu I agree
@topbluffa1 Ooh, I do doubt that. Unless I'm mistaken and I don't think I am, Daigo is one of the best if not /the/ best SF4 players in the world. The reason they spam Hadouken is because the fireball controls a lot of space, which is essential for fighting games. Basically, it's a good move and they don't give a shit about being cheap. :P Not many high tier players do in any game. A move is cheap because it's good, and if you want to beat a cheap move, find a way around it.
Me and my friend main ken and ryu, and our matches' general gameplay are awfully similar to when daigo and momochi plays. I must say Ryu has much better odds against ken as their moves are very similar but ryu's moves have generally better priority with better hit/hurtbox placement. ryu can easily link most of his normals into hardknockdown, links his ultra in many ways and he simply win in the fireball war.
I notice daigo (ryu) never jump towards momochi (ken). And When ever Momochi jumps towards daigo, daigo punishes him with his shoryuken. I think Capcom reduced ken's Hadoken way to low. In sf2 the speed was about the same. I think its sad that Ken's Hadoken is only faster than Dan's and only the female characters.
@TMALATERALUS That was just the word on SRK.com and in Japan. Dont have a legit source to validate it though. Sorry bud =P
@chocolatedeluca Thats what I heard last night coming from your room... What were you doing BOY!
Thumbs up if you went to close the "add" but it was just the godsgarden bs.
Can anyone teach me how to use Ex Moves for PS3?
Do you know?
Tell me about DOta or LOL... this games you should play.
I main ken but I play ryu also, ken is more fun IMO but ryu is definitely the better character. More solid in almost every major department except mixups.
I think your comment is hilarious, don't worry :)
It's just so unlucky. Momochi is trying but he just can't break Daigo down.
Watching it I really can't think of anything I'd do differently. Daigo never comes to you.
@Toushirou00 are you sure?
Yeah, games like Tekken have more emphasis on target combos. Once you get an opening, the moment change is ridiculous. This is why I like Street Fighter 4's system. More emphasis on strategy outside of combos.
@anthonygamer haven't played or followed sf4 since vanilla and even watching recent high level play (EVO2k11) the majority of players didn't use ken. give me a name of someone who uses ken in ae so i can see what he's capable of
I wonder if daigo thinks hes actually ryu and takes the ryu ken fight extra serious.
But important. Nobody does the basics as well as umehara.
@ryuequalken 那RYU有什么地方是好過KEN?
Every creationist/religious person states you can't disprove religion, therefore you can't say "I'm" wrong. The philosophy of religion is simple. Teachings that equal to the value of morals to make sure civilization doesn't stray off the wrong path. Of course it's easier for the drunken man to be happier than a sober one much like a believer and a skeptic. The believer will say it's better to believe because I benefit if it does exist but even if it doesn't, it wont hurt to pray... God damn
in my opinion if momochi used ryu he stood a better chance... ryu has faster fireballs and knocks down on ex hit and more importantly more links to ultra specially in tight situations... when you need to land an ultra for round enders
marvelus!
Yeah..
tks..
10:00 when the match actually gets interesting.
@wccira bro I was just thinking the samething
Aww that's sweet :)
I'm not stupid and therefore know that a large number of people are Christians. Let me rephrase: The first group to believe him were homeless people who were crazy and believed every bit of crap that spewed from his lips. There are tons of arguments that deny the existence of such an omnipotent being.
1) SCIENCE
2) Christianity in a nutshell - A man came back to life to cleanse the world of sins that are present in society because a rib-woman ate an apple given to her by a snake (seems legit)
I don't understand what the viewers complaining about the game play are expecting to see when watching high level play. Perhaps somebody could enlighten me?
dude daigo is considered to be the best for a reason...he is the most consistent out of all the players in the world, nobody even comes close to what he managed to pull off out of all these years. and since when is using the same character over and over lame? ryu isn't even considered that strong anymore and still daigo manages to make him look OP. oh and you're saying that counter-pickers in tournaments are more skilled than character specialists? you seem to know nothing at all.
lol you cant just "spam" hadoken... if ur litterally just spamming it its so easy to punish daigo knows the spaceing so he knows if he cant get hit why not go for the push damage and make them do something
@came2getbusy Banana Ken.
Japanese commentators get so hype. I love it.
Either way id rather believe in god and never find out he isnt real if i die believing and cease to exist than to not believe in him and find out he is real when i die.
@phaseisgay Momochi sure as hell "broke Daigo down" when he selects Gouki.....
Anyhoo, Momochi has Daigo figured out and vice versa. these matches pretty much boil down to which character is superior, not which player is superior. In my opinion, Momochi trumps Daigo when it comes to shotos. Momochi is a more cunning player
Damn Ken getting zoned like a boss.
the longer you play daigo the worst man, he must have a usb conected to his head.
Daigo already dropped Yun for Ryu in 2012.
I get sick of constantly changing the volume of my mac due to damn presenters' dramatical shouting.
someone should count the number of hadoukens :D
"Ono has stated that this system was incorporated in order to shift the emphasis away from combos and toward a more realistic system he has compared to boxing, in which 'the skill is in reading your opponent's move before he or she starts moving ... We haven't forgotten about combos and linked moves, but focus makes it so that you have to read your opponent.'"
Dumbass.
Also, Daigo plays Yun just fine.
The top tier characters include Cammy, Fei Long, and Adon, none of which have fireballs.
I used to be a Ryu player but then I took an Hadouken to the knee
9:24 HAHAHHA "eru NeEeEe"
momochi should use akuma again.. so much more entertaining
frickin' Daigo
you break my mind
why did you put a religious quote here? its a bit irrelevant seeing as its a gaming vid. stop arguing. And it shouldnt matter what other people think, he shouldnt impose his views on him and you shouldnt impose your views.
Im just here to see daigo but i hate these kind of arguments, no one wins and everyone just gets annoyed,
you so dissapoint me, Momochi-san ((
Look at all that zoning.
RIGHT!
You cant say for certain its false, and no the middle ages are a perfect example of the opposite people fought for their religion like people still do today. There is no cure for cancer so not praying isnt advantageous from your point of view either. There is no amount of action that will rid the world of lunatics because someone will view you as a lunatic for trying. If their wasnt religion people would find something else to fight about. Youre not promised anything in religion, it falls on you
I love Momochi
daigo troll face 8:40
hurr durrr im Canadian prozzz durp
what the fuck options does ken have in this game? has mediocre fbs and i see no other way of closing distance with him.. i know his kara is useful but wtf do you do when you get zoned like this with him?
He play very good with Yun... and I'm talking about use the same player.. i hate this
I'm dont care about this.. and he is one of 5 top players...
I'm talking about the boring and spam game.
I wanna see one champion playing with E-honda, Zangief or another char without fireballs.... sure that this guy is a top player for me.
Ryu runner and spam hadoken
HADOUKEN
Reducing the importance of combos? Dont be dumb kid... every SF games continues emphazing the strategy, combos and tactics.. but one of the 5 top players of the world continues using only hadowken.
Tell Daigo if he wanna play with a char without fireball in next champ...
Who are you to say this about Tekken?
Tekken was based in real combos of real marcial arts too.
Back to your Ben 10 game kid.
daigo running lol
"The only ones that believed him" 33% of the entire world are christian and how could you possibly know that? I had no idea you were alive over 2000 years ago and were intelligent enough to count and remember how many people followed and believed in jesus..Common sense used to be the world was flat but religion still remains to be disproved, there is no argument that will win the intelligence of an omnipotent being is greater than yours and thats why you cant take my faith away.
HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, MEDIUM KICK, HADOUKEN, HADLOUKEN, HADOUKEN, TATSUMAKI, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, MEDIUM KICK, HADOUKEN, SHORYUKEN, HADOUKEN, HADOUCKEN, MEDIUM KICK, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, HADOUKEN, TATSUMAKI... QUE JUEGO CON ABURRIDO ES STREET FIGHTER.
Dude... I know nothing? ok...
I know one thing... the best player create cool combos and strategies..
What strategy of Daigo? How many time he played as another char? Guile once... Yun.. 2 times...
Use Counter-pickers and cancel shoriukens to make a special move... and use spam shit hadowkens?
Omg... The midia made this virgin guy as the best player in the World.
I hate RYU with a Passion
Momochi could win without spam hadouken... Daigo not.
calling someone else kid does not make you an adult, chump.
Only noobs see hadouken spam in this match...