The American Bonapartes, an Updated History Guy Episode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- The largely forgotten saga of the Bonapartes who came to America illustrates the pretensions and complexity of Napoleon's attempts to create a lasting dynasty.
This History Guy episode was originally produced in February 2018. The revised episode contains additional information about Joseph Bonaparte's time in America.
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Good Lord, this one is a tangled Web, Waterloo to the FBI.
I know, now I have a headache trying to figure out all the connections....he needs a graphic ...
I am l....o.....s......t. Getting a glass of wine and an Excedrin.
Going to college in Tallahassee, I was surprised to find that a Bonaparte relative, Achille Murat formerly the Prince of Naples had been an early resident and was buried there. One of his plantation houses still stands, although it was moved, and is open for tours at the Tallahassee Museum. I had no idea so many more of Bonaparte's relatives had lived in the US.
"A final twist in the story"...?
This story has got more twists than a 1950's sock hop.
😂😂😂😂
Truth is Stranger than Fiction!!
slowing down the playback speed helps.
Let's do the Twist?
The twist was not popular until the 1960s. I remember when I was a little kid, my new gorgeous blonde Aunt Joyce teaching all of the Aunts and Uncles and friends the Twist back then. I had to be seven then. My mother was thirty one with five kids, one a baby so I think she just watched.
My dad used to make home made chicken soup that he'd call 'Chicken Napolean'...because he made it from the 'bony parts'.
Honestly, one of the best dad jokes I've ever heard.
@@benoitbvg2888 Groan
@@stevehansen5389 you say that like it's not the exact response Brett's old man was after.
@@Milkmans_Son The first time you hear it you can force a chuckle. After that the best you can do is a muffled groan.
@@stevehansen5389 Now you're getting it.
Bonaparte family lived in Owings Mills , MD married to the Pattersons. We went by there almost every Sunday to Baltimore for 20 yrs.
Great videos! Love what you do Mr History guy!
AStrayProjectMC well merry him
@@methinks1507 I replied with I love what he does.. not that i love him
Another great tale where twists and turns abound. Thanks for another great history lesson.
Good grief, another case where I will have to build a family tree to follow the people and history.
Well done, Sir History Guy!
Respect & Gratitude Professor!!
Proud regular financial sponsor of your program...
Joseph Bonapartes estate was in Bordentown, N. J.. I attended Bordentown Military Institute in the 1960s. Part of the campus was the Bonapartes estate. The old Main Building, as at was called, was Joseph's secretary home. Where Joseph's home had been was a convent at that time, as I remember. I believe his home do not exist at that time in the 1960s. The rumor was that Joseph's mistress' living quarters was in his secretary home in the Main Building of the school. There was reports that there were tunnels on the estate from his home down to the Delaware River in case he needed to escape for some reason. Thanks for the video.
Now I'm thinking of Beef Wellington and hungry. Thanks a lot History Guy!
terry boyer have a Napoleon pastry for dessert.
HG. Another triumph Sir. Bravo! One little off-shoot of American Bonaparte history not addressed here is how two classic old time American folk music tunes, namely "Bonaparte Crossing the Rhine" and "Bonaparte's Retreat" came to be such well known standards. Also, please consider researching an edition on the global spread (and suppression) of the quintessential American musical instrument - the banjo. I think you would be surprised how many people around the globe commune with American history by regularly and enthusiastically failing Mark Twain's definition of a Gentleman.
I loved reading Desiree, the historical novel about Bonapartes first love, Eugene Clary, who later became queen of Sweden (she showed him!). I also saw the movie with Marlon Brando as a convincing Napoleon. It ignited a love of history that has given me great interests and pleasure all my life. I was constantly reprimanded in 4th grade for READING all the time (can you imagine punishing kids for wanting to read today?!).
Luckily, it had no effect on me, and I became a writer so I could continue reading at home all day while telling people I'm busy writing my novel...
Amazing. Fancy that. I avoided history and pursued a career in science. Now past my sell-by-date, I find history to be truly fascinating. Thanks.
Absolutely fascinating story! Thank you so very much for digging it out!
Wellington is my fave because he would make his king laugh at his advisers with his impressions
Wow! I'm going to watch the video again to get the Bonaparte lineage straight. Thanks for the upload.
I need to see the family tree written down to keep them all straight.
@@CallieMasters5000 That's an excellent suggestion!
Thank you History Guy . In The North Country of New York State The was A Bonaparte Brother as a Landowner . Look on the map east Of Watertown , East of Fort Drum on route 3 . The Indian River Flows underground thru a Cave , There is a Legend about Treasure . There is a Bonaparte Lake and a Bonaparte Cave up there . And yes the French Treasure Legend still up there Today .
Glad to see the update included mentioning Point Breeze (in New Jersey) the estate of older brother Joseph. The locals loved him for he was generous and kind. Rumor has it that there was an escape tunnel down to the Delaware River, so if so an enemy came for him he could escape safely away.
Bonapartes are burried in Baltimore's Loudon Park cemetery.
Hopefully in the dysfunctional family section.
@@Milkmans_Son looks like it🐢
THG, in upstate New York near the town of Harrisville is a Lake Bonaparte named after Nap’s brother Joseph. Joe had a camp there the stone foundation of which is still slightly visible. Apparently he owned the area up there a gift from I forget who. But he so enjoyed that lake that he put his name on it.
Great video, as always. It's really hard to keep track of the "begots" in some of these families.
Minor quibble: it's the New Jersey Pine *Barrens.* Just a slip o' the tongue, I'm sure.
The couple was featured in an episode of Hornblower with Ioan Gruffudd. It tells how Jerome Bonaparte and Betsy were trying to get back to France.
Good series!
Wow! This was informative, but so complicated, I will have o watch it again.
Very interesting and confirms my suspicion. Not too far from my home in northeast Baltimore there are two streets close together with a seemingly suspicious Francophone origin. One is Bonaparte Avenue and the other is Saint Lo Drive. Thank you for your research.
I really appreciate this channel. History is like food to me. I am the 6th great grandson of William Ranger Davidson. Hero of the Revolutionary War in the United States. Would you please consider making an episode about him and his family?
Don't you just love history with twists and turns!
Keep 'em excellent videos coming! 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Now that is history so convoluted, it is pretty hard to remember. Makes some long running US soap operas pale in comparison...
Excellent video that clearly sets out the story of the American Bonopartes. Well done!
Wow... this bit of history had more twists and turns than a Kentucky back road.
I was really nervous there would be no episode today.
Sorry! Got back yesterday and was moving a tad slowly this AM.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel it's good to have you back.
I’m glad you keep the scorecards for the Bonaparte families, I got a headache just thinking about it,
I have a Bon to pick a parte with the History Guy....Yea I need to Beaparte from these Bonapartes...Always interesting stories...good job!!
WOW....Don't know how you got all of that out so very well.....But you did and l might add..It was juST a (BONE...APART) and.Just outstanding....To be sure...Thank's...To be sure...Well we all as humans are just a "bone apart".............!
Every time you tell us about history...... We learn something new. Wow! 🤔
Hey I've been subscribed for about 4 months or around early this year and I love every new video.
Damn, it is amazing how much your stories of History fascinate me.
I’m currently doing research on my family tree, and I find your linkage of the characters FASCINATING! And the origin of the FBI? Wowser!
Another brilliant piece HG!
Wow! What a great and twisted story. Thanks for sharing it.
This episode needs a family tree graphic to keep track of all the players and their relationships
In 1976 and 77 I read electric meters in Philadelphia and there was an elderly black gentleman named Napoleon Bonaparte who's meter I read monthly. He lived across the street from Harold Melvin's mom, from Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes with Teddy Prendergast.
Fascinating story and one I never knew existed! Thanks again.
I didn’t know much about the family of Napoleon Bonaparte. This was fascinating.
Wow! I recently learned that I am related to Betsy Patterson, The Belle of Baltimore, through my maternal grandfather. Thank you, History Guy, for adding some leaves to the family tree!
What became of Betsy?
@@david6532 I don’t know. A cousin, who is the de facto family genealogist, mentioned it to me but didn’t give any details. He probably doesn’t know.
@@jeanettewaverly2590 thanks for the reply if u do find anything out please let me know.
@@david6532 Will do.
Charles Jerome Bonaparte lived in a stately mansion called Bella Vista in the beautiful Glen Arm valley northeast of Baltimore. The building had neither electric or telephone service, as CJB reportedly distrusted such "modern technology". After his death, the estate passed to bootleggers Peter & Michael Kelly, then the Obrecht family. The building burned in January 1933, ironically from an electrical short circuit while being modernized. A somewhat diminished, but still attractive, mansion replaced the original. For 30+ years I commuted past this property without any idea of its historic significance. Thanks for filling in the blanks!
Notre Dame apparently burned due to an electric short circuit while being restored. Same-o, same-o.
That thread was really hard to follow. I think I need to watch this again and take notes next time. I will draw a family tree and a map perhaps. Good stuff! I love history!
Fascinating, as usual!
This was another very interesting video. It seems to incorporate the theme "Six Degrees of Separation."
That was like a roller-coaster ride. Keep going and articulate the connection (genealogical relation) of the British Royal Family to the German Hierarchy.
I am a direct descendant of Sarah Patterson Proudift who was a cousin of Elizabeth Patterson. Her grandson, my distant cousin, was U.S. Attorney General.
Fascinating! Thank you.
Thank you very much .
Reminded me of the convoluted family trees my mother used to relate as to why such and such couldn't possibly marry! My eyes would glaze and I would seek escape.
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Thanks !
Very good job at telling their story
This was very good the only problem I had with it as it seems to be talking too fast and you got me confused on who would win but other than that I found it interesting thank you so much
Great video. Can you cover the Everett massacre? I feel iww history in general is often overlooked.
What a tangled web of heir ship. You need more than a road map to see who’s on first, second or third. Good look at history. Thank you.
I enjoyed the Betsy/Bonaparte story in the Horacio Hornblower A&E miniseries best. I love your channel!
Omg....this is a tough one to follow lol. I don't even think a road map can keep track of this one😂😂😂😂
Oh good. It's not just me. I thought the sugar from the 7 donuts I ate was making my head spin.
Nicely done!
I believe I could watch this 100 times and still not sort it all out!
What a tangled mess... it takes The History Guy to sort through it all and make a presentation like this that makes perfect sense without giving my feeble mind a clue!
To sum up the ending, which went a little fast, it goes like this. Betsy Patterson Bonaparte (first wife of Jerome Bonaparte) had a sister-in-law, Mary Caton Patterson, from Mary's first marriage to Betsy's brother, Robert. After Robert died, Mary married Englishman Richard Wellesley, 1st Marquess Wellesley, and brother of Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Thus, the two American sisters-in-law from Baltimore, Maryland, Elizabeth Patterson and Mary Caton, were at various times the wives of the brothers of the Duke of Wellington and Napoleon Bonaparte, opponents at the battle of Waterloo.
I will have to watch this several times if I am going to understand the lineages here. Soooo many first cousins here! Like biblical "Begat" tale!
This episode is a wow!
Oh this is so cool. Love it!
Wow! So much of history is so intertwined.
Love you THG!!!
Jerome and Betsy's attempt to land in France was the subject of one of C. S. Forester's _Hornblower_ novels, and portrayed in the third _Hornblower_ series by iTV.
Have been huge fan of The History Guy and have watched every video he's made but for the first time have to admit I got lost the first couple of minutes into this one.
Maybe I'm just getting old?
My head is spinning on this one!
I remember discussing this one when it came out
allways very interesting,thank you 🙂
Great stuff !!!
Very interesting! Do something on Maximilian I of Mexico.
th-cam.com/video/aiRkoEn6me4/w-d-xo.html
thanks again, again.
I'm glad I never studied French History; you need to be a gemology chart expert to keep track of all of these Bonapartes.
FYI, I chose the "easy countries:" Russian, South Asian & Japanese History.
Keep up the great work; I wish I knew you when I was going through University!!!
You need to put a family tree up so confusing but very interesting
Sacre bleu, I heard duelling accordions, playing in the background! Merci, mon ami.
Very well done
Amazing stuff.
My head is spinning on this one!!!!
Wow! Great research, great story. Did I say Wow?!
Good video.👍
Dear THG, any plans for a segment on Civil War, Bloody Kansas, Quantrill’s Raiders? Would love to hear your take on this history that should not be forgotten.
Great History.. This one had many turns.. Still waiting on you to research. Bernado De' Soto..
Great video. Sometimes I get a great laugh as I think of those old Monty Python bits when the do a documentary.
That's a heckuva final twist.
Wow now that just boggled my mind just trying to follow the family tree ! To think that FBI was started by a Bonaparte amazing ! Thank you for another great video and history lesson !
The Jersey Devil lives in The Pine Barrens of central and south New Jersey. I had what I believe was a run in with the Jersey Devil in March 1973 just north of Batsto State Park.
This is a description of Joseph Bonaparte's purported encounter with a Jersey Devil: americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/07/joseph_bonaparte_and_the_jerse.html
Very well presented as always, but it's such a convoluted tale, I'd need a flow chart to really understand it.
Rene Auberjonois of star trek deep space 9 fame is related to the Bonapartes
His maternal grandfather's father was a second cousin of Charles Joseph Bonaparte (1851-1921), Secretary of the Navy (1905-1906), and then United States Attorney General (1906-1909), both in the cabinet of President Theodore Roosevelt.
www.imdb.com/name/nm0041281/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
I do so enjoy your videos; but I hope that you will forgive me if I offer a correction to your French pronunciation. There are no "u"s sounded in "Hougoumont" which sounds, phonetically, more or less as "Hoogoomong". The Guards kept the French out, save for one incursion when all were killed except one little drummer boy who was spared by the Guardsmen and kept safe until the battle was over
In English, too, the title "Marquess" is pronounced "Markwess""
Wow. This is very interesting history. I bet Patterson park in Baltimore is named after William Paterson
That was super crazy! All the twists and turns off the battlefield. Thank you!
European royal family trees don't have near enough branches!
Marry my first cousin? What could go wrong? It's still better than some Romans marrying their siblings.
@@lesliefranklin1870 Romans didn't marry their siblings.
You may be thinking perhaps of the Ptolemies, a Macedonian royal dynasty that ruled over Egypt from the death of Alexander the Great to it's annexation by the Roman Empire. Most of the Ptolemaic kings wed relatives, and in some cases that included siblings. Cleopatra was the most famous ruler of that dynasty.
@@lycaonpictus9662 You're right. Claudius married his niece.
Very interesting story.
You could do a bunch in your exploration series on trying to reach both the nort and south pole. Lots of epic failures in there and kinda unfortunately humanity seams to like that type of stuff especially TH-cam.
Jerome was depicted in an episode of the Hornblower TV series, highly recommended...