The Gadsden purchase

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  • On December 30, 1853, the first draft of a treaty was signed that would complete the borders of the United States “lower 48.” The Gadsden purchase was grounded in the politics and economics of the era, had significant political ramifications on both sides of the border. It is history that deserves to be remembered.
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  • @NanoBurger
    @NanoBurger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    The History Guy goes full Bond Villain. Stroking his cat while discussing world-changing events.

    • @philmenzies2477
      @philmenzies2477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was scrolling the comments while listening to THG. Read this and thought wot? Had to rewatch it to see. Great comment!

    • @carebear8762
      @carebear8762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No Mr. Bond, I expect you to learn.

    • @vinnynj78
      @vinnynj78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Do you expect me to Talk? No, I expect you to subscribe!

    • @p.l.g3190
      @p.l.g3190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I forgot about the Bond villain thing. All I thought was, "awww."

    • @wolski45
      @wolski45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Meow"

  • @whiterabbit-wo7hw
    @whiterabbit-wo7hw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The History Cat makes a cameo!
    Now, that's something that needs to be remembered. 😸

  • @stevedietrich8936
    @stevedietrich8936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    The southern route was a much easier route to construct than the central route. The elevation at the continental divide (just east of Lordsburg, NM) is 4585 feet, and the approaches from east and west are both so gentle that you don't even realize that you are crossing the divide. Also, the route is able to skirt the various mountain ranges that dot southern Arizona.

    • @wintonhudelson2252
      @wintonhudelson2252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, so true and thank you for posting this fact.

    • @jackielinde7568
      @jackielinde7568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "Dot"? Arizona has three Geological Zones, and mountains and mesas make up the top third of the state. It's close to being one huge mountain range. Beautiful country if you get the chance to drive one of our numerous highways. And, yes, the southern third is mostly plains and level ground compared to the northern third.

    • @stevedietrich8936
      @stevedietrich8936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jackielinde7568 Yes, DOT. The Southern Pacific route essentially follows the route of I-10. The various mountain ranges; Dragoon, Chiricauhua, Santa Rita's, Rincons, Tortolitas, Tucson, etc. DOT the landscape, with lots of flat ground between them. That's why they are called Sky Islands. The Southern Pacific route does not travel through the more mountainous northern and eastern part of the State, and I was talking about where the railroad was. PS I live in this State as well.

    • @thomasdupee1440
      @thomasdupee1440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@stevedietrich8936 It's more accurate to say that I-10 follows the route of the SP, which was there long before the interstate highway system was even thought of.

    • @jackielinde7568
      @jackielinde7568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@stevedietrich8936 Um... how do I tell you this? It's impossible for the Southern Pacific line to have followed I-10. You see, the Southern Pacific line was built in the 1870s and 1880s. I-10 was started as part of the highway projects of the 1950s and 1960s, and the final stretch (in Phoenix, for, um... reasons) wasn't completed until the 1990s. So the highway followed the rail line.
      Also, I suspect there were other factors in having the highway following the rail line, like that the US government might still hold a lot of the railway land in trust. Remember the US and the railroads bought the land in that weird checkerboard. Having the rail line near the freeway construction project allowed for materials to be quickly transported to the construction site. And having an interstate freeway running next to the lines meant SP (now Union Pacific) could easily send out repair crews, so SP may have granted land to building the freeway.
      The funny thing is, while southern AZ is relatively flat, there are sections of SP lines that do go through long mountain tunnels elsewhere. Because of it, they had a couple (four I think) cab forward engines built. One survives as a museum piece, but I think it can still be fired up.

  • @brotherbrownstone
    @brotherbrownstone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    KITTTTYY!!!! ... oh, that's right... um, something about Mexican railways in the ... um... garden. Sorry, got distracted by the kitty!

  • @howtubeable
    @howtubeable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:03 Look at that handwriting! Beautiful and legible.

  • @BoldChoice1
    @BoldChoice1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Mr. History Guy, I have a suggestion for a topic for you.
    Here is my pitch (topics titles are in parentheses):
    My home state of Maine has a very interesting and unique history.
    - It was repeatedly attacked by native tubes and French during the colonial period almost every settlement was destroyed at least once (Maine and the colonial wars).
    - One industry it took part in was the colonial “scalp trade”.
    - It was a mass exodus of French settlers from eastern Maine that caused us to call people from Louisiana “Cajun’s” (The Acadian Exodus, 1755).
    - Maine’s first capital of Portland/Falmouth was burnt to the ground by British ships during the war for independence (The burning of Falmouth, 1775).
    - The pine tree state was the only area of the country to STAY a colony after independence was gained in the late 18th Century (Maine: The USA’s First Colony)
    - It was a leading force in the temperance movement in the early to late 1800’s (Neal Dow: The Father of Prohibition/Napoleon of Temperance)
    - It didn’t actually receive its final borders until roughly 20 years AFTER the Missouri Compromise (The Aroostook War).
    - Lastly, it is the home to the “Lion of Bowdoin” Joshua Chamberlain, civil war hero at Gettysburg, college professor and Governor of The state (Joshua Chamberlain: The Lion of Bowdoin”.
    Mainers both in and out of state are fiercely proud of our little corner of the world. I would be incredibly appreciative if you were to shine some light on it. Thank you for your time!

  • @matthewclark2123
    @matthewclark2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Show idea: Stephan Decatur. Navy hero, ended the Barbary wars.

    • @noneofyourbusiness43
      @noneofyourbusiness43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shot a cannon at the Jersey Devil

    • @blastforth
      @blastforth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No less then Admiral Nelson called Decatur's raid recapture or destroy the Philadelphia, "the most bold and daring act of the age."

    • @jimirsmith6247
      @jimirsmith6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Barbary war was the first time islam and muslims attacked america. They like to say we attacked them first . Its untrue.

    • @mrmoofle
      @mrmoofle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because, don't all good stories involve pirates?

    • @historicalbum
      @historicalbum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Used to pass his grave in philly all the time, buried in same grave yard as the Vice President who's the namesake of Dallas, TX so Decater and Dallas are neighbors;p

  • @mikeddh2018
    @mikeddh2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I haven't watched one of these videos in a really long time. I was expecting the old "Hi. I'm The History Guy. I have a degree in history and I love history." intro. Glad to see you're still putting out great content.
    EDIT: Over 900k subscribers?! Wow congrats!

    • @Silverado138
      @Silverado138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂🤣 it's been a while then, I do miss the old intro, not crazy of the new but it's gown on me.

  • @jackielinde7568
    @jackielinde7568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE EPISODES:
    1. The long (and strange) path for New Mexico and Arizona Statehood. (My understanding is that NM and AZ could have been states in the late 1860s, except that an event in a theater in 1865 derailed those plans.) This does include how the New Mexico territory was divided up.
    2. The "Capitol on Wheels" in Arizona's early history because Flagstaff (miners and loggers) and Tucson (ranchers and farmers) didn't trust each other and wanted the capitol in their city.
    3. More railroad stories (like why specific railroad companies were started, the wonderous Cab Forward engines of the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the engineering challenges of building railways through the Rocky Mountains) because don't all good stories involve a train?
    4. The History of the USAF's areal acrobatics team, The Thunderbirds. (Did you know they got their start at Luke Air Force Base in Glendale, AZ?)

  • @LouisHansell
    @LouisHansell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Camels originated in North America, and migrated across the land bridge when Alaska and Asia were connected. Their feet were adapted to walking in snow. Those feet were well-adapted to walking on sand, and today we associate them with desert travel.

  • @ferengiprofiteer9145
    @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I traveled the southern route by train from San Antonio to Los Angeles in 1959. It took 3 days. I had a coach seat. Missed it being steam driven by a couple of years.
    I flew back to Meacham Field in Fort Worth on a DC 6. It took 5 hours.
    10 years later my sister made the trip from and back to Dallas Love Field on a 747.
    Thanks for tinkling my memory keys History Guy.

  • @drferry
    @drferry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is one more thing the United States got out of the Gadsden Purchase: the Santa Rita, Huachuca, Chiricahua, and Animas Mountain ranges. These are the northern terminus of the Sierra Madre Occidental of Mexico, and therefore supply about 80 species of birds that enter the United States only in southeastern Arizona and southwest New Mexico. Birders come from all over the USA and Canada to pad their life list by seeing these birds. For instance, we more than double our number of hummingbirds because of this area. We also got the Chiricahua National Monument, a spectacular scenic area that looks like Bryce Canyon but with dark brown rocks. All these mountains are wonderful.

    • @enid0mom
      @enid0mom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was a tragic die off of thousands of migratory birds this year. There was no disease involved but all the birds were emaciated as if they left too early and didn’t store enough fat. They think all the fires in the west this year disoriented the birds.

    • @drferry
      @drferry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another possibility is that they had no insects to fatten up on because there was virtually no monsoon. The persistent high pressure that parked over the Southwest prevented the moist gulf air from moving in and creating the usual summer rains. All this is because of La Niña which effected all of the Southwest. My friend who lives in Tucson said they had only one good rain all summer. There was plenty of rain the two previous years with the El Niño condition.

  • @ProfessorKitchen
    @ProfessorKitchen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The History Cat: "Talk less. Scratch more."

  • @enid0mom
    @enid0mom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is a little town a little west of Las Cruses called Mesilla, NM. Within Mesilla, there is an area known as Old Mesilla where there is a town plaza with a church with the ambitious name the Basilica of San Albino at one end. There are numerous gift shops with WONDERFUL Navajo pottery and original art. On one corner of the town plaza, there is a tiny building that was once a jail where Billy the Kid was held and escaped. To the northeast of this area, on West Boutz Road, is a little private museum called the Gadsden Museum. When I was last there, the woman whose family was intimately involved in the Gadsden Purchase operated the museum. She had more information about the minutiae of that era than you would ever find in a book. She has undoubtedly passed on since then, so I can’t say for sure the visit would be as wonderful now as it was then (around 1997) but if I was in the vicinity, I would definitely check it out. There is a Masonic Cemetery in Las Cruses where Pat Garret, who ambushed and killed Billy the Kid in Ft. Sumner, NM, is buried. So is my aunt and my cousin. It is the only cemetery not owned by the international corporation, SCI, in the area (or just about anywhere).

  • @garymckee8857
    @garymckee8857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the postage stamp commentating the Gadsden purchase.

  • @MrU4theChillWind
    @MrU4theChillWind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I remembered the term "Gadsden Purchase" from high school but had completely forgotten everything about it.

    • @michaeldougfir9807
      @michaeldougfir9807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was back when American schooling was better and more thorough. I remembered the Gadsden Purchase too. Let's keep bringing up the old issues so the young people can get the sense that contemporary "education" has ripped them off. Will they have the guts to DO SOMETHING about it?

    • @emmitstewart1921
      @emmitstewart1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was because the Gadsden purchase is seldom given more than a paragraph in most history texts. There was no war, no famous battles, no great conflict. Just two countries setting down for peaceful talks to achieve a result that both sides wanted. The US wanted land and Santa Ana wanted money. Santa Ana might have bargained harder if he had known that the land had huge deposits of silver under it.

    • @Xergecuz
      @Xergecuz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emmitstewart1921 5 or 6 years ago Tayikistan gave to China 1000 square kilometers in order to prevent a war, even thou China wanted 28k square kilometers, that was the modern equivalent of Mexico giving the US the Mesilla territory.

    • @LetsTalkAboutPrepping
      @LetsTalkAboutPrepping 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaeldougfir9807 past generations should've done something about it, and also should've raised the younger generation to have the guts to fix the problems theyve been given. Unfortunately, past generations have been asleep at the wheel

    • @jeffwalther3935
      @jeffwalther3935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you bragging or reporting you wasted your and everyone's precious, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to educate yourself? Does this new information change anything significant in your current political/social/historical, political/religious opinions about what's happening now? Could what's happening now be an adverse result of your, (nothing personal, just typical), monumental and continuing irresponsibility and unaccountability regarding citizenship, life, education and knowledge? Do you think that history is nothing but a story, one of among thousands?

  • @spacecoyote6646
    @spacecoyote6646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Because of the camel experiment, many people in the west knew what camels looked like. There is a mountain in the Phoenix area called Camelback Mountain because of it. And yes, it does look like a camel's back

  • @sharonwhiteley6510
    @sharonwhiteley6510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never realized the Gadsden Purchase would lead us to one more our favorite places to visit: TOMBSTONE, AZ.

  • @dorothygale5896
    @dorothygale5896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Re: The camels. The camel driver's tomb is in Quartzite, AZ. He had made the Hadj
    so he was called Hadj Ali or as the people called him, Hi Jolly.
    Too, don't forget Santa Ana's role in bringing chewing gum to the world.

  • @sharonwheat3659
    @sharonwheat3659 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The purchase of Alaska from Russia would make a great episode. Thanks.

  • @bc30cal99
    @bc30cal99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for another interesting video. Love the grey tabby cat too. The camels ended up being sold as surplus and some ended up here in British Columbia being used as pack animals for the Cariboo Gold Rush. They did not however, share the road that well with traditional mules and horses and as a result were set free into the BC interior. The last one "Lady" ended up near present day Grande Prairie and died between 1896 and 1905. Thanks again and all the best in 2021.

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! That was a lot of history for 15 minutes. You were lucky to get a CAT scan done at the end!

  • @Auger3504
    @Auger3504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If I were a history teacher I would use your videos. I'd be the laziest and most effective history teacher ever.

  • @kevinconrad6156
    @kevinconrad6156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Just realized something watching this video. I live in Yuma AZ at the Western side of the Gadsden purchase on the not so mighty now Colorado. The first dams on the river were to prevent flooding in Yuma and provide irrigation water. The only place for those dams is outside the purchase so a Mexican Yuma would not be able to build them. This could really have changed the US without all the crops, including the Imperial valley, no Salton Sea. Interesting alternate history.

    • @ryusantos6145
      @ryusantos6145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just as interesting is that has the Gladsden Purchase gone in a straight line Puerto Penasco would have been a major western U.S. port instead of the major tourist destination it is now.

    • @allenjohnson5536
      @allenjohnson5536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My Great Grandfather settled in the Yuma valley in the 1870s because of the land grab mentioned. An English immigrant, he was in Kansas prior and moved to Yuma to take up farming. My family still farms the area. Yuma’s origin was based on the easiest place to cross the river; a ferry was built from the two rocky bluffs that now are Ft. Yuma and the Territorial Prison.

    • @kevinconrad6156
      @kevinconrad6156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@allenjohnson5536 Ft. Yuma, just over a mile from my home.

  • @henryrodgers1752
    @henryrodgers1752 ปีที่แล้ว

    This presentation was of particular interest to me as a native Texan, born in El Paso. The Treaty was signed in Mesilla, NM, near Las Cruces, where a bronze plaque commemorates the event. I enjoyed the participation of the History Cat especially.

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    There's a place just outside of Las Vegas that people could ride descendants of those original camels. Camel Safari . They have authentic Mongolian tents for the weekend and you have access to 150 miles of Mojave desert to trek through

    • @rockin_john6282
      @rockin_john6282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Something I just learned in recent years: Camels were not native to the old world. They originated in the Americas, and were transplanted to Australia, Asia, Africa and the Middle-east. Then there's the comic movie Hawmps about US cavalry mounted on Camels, staring the triple threat of Slim Pickens, Denver Pile, and Jack Elam.

    • @zoltanposfai3451
      @zoltanposfai3451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rockin_john6282 Not exactly. The goat sized ancestor did live in the Northern American continent but they spread to Asia in a natural way before humans arrived to NA, and went extinct in NA around the same time, so "transplanted" does not fit.

    • @paulmentzer7658
      @paulmentzer7658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Camels were native to Arabia. Camels had evolved in North America, but moved to Asia on their own when Alaska a Siberia were connected.
      The Romans moved camels to North Africa about the time of Christ. Prior to that move, the main animal used on the Carthage to Timbutu route was the horse. By the time of Christ, that area had become to dry for horses, so the Romans imported camels from Arabia for the Carthage to Timbutu route was very profitable. When the Portuguese found out how to sail around the Northern half of Africa, the trade on the Niger River (Timbutu is on that river) shifted from the Carthage to Timbutu route, to the Niger River to present day Nigeria, to the Caribbean then to Europe for that is how the currents and winds blow in the Atlantic. While much longer then the land route from Timbutu to Carthage the ships could carry up to 50 tons by the 1500s and travel 24 hours a day, not the less then a half ton one Camel could carry and Camels needed to rest at night.
      Thus after about 1500 the Carthage to Timbutu route became a local route only, the main trade route was the Atlantic. Camels are still important in that area but for local trade only not trade between Europe and Africa South of the Sahara desert.
      As to Camels in Australia, that is the work of the British who saw the camels as superior is desert and Centra l Australia is desert. That was the plan but from what I have read the plan to use camels failed but enough camels escaped to form herds in that desert.

    • @gerritfridericksohn4627
      @gerritfridericksohn4627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Arc came to rest on Mt. Arahat so that is where the camels came from

    • @constipatedinsincity4424
      @constipatedinsincity4424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gerritfridericksohn4627 Its spelled Mount Ararat! Close though and Ark!

  • @steveb6103
    @steveb6103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    North and South California . There are people who would go for that now!

    • @ryanmarquez9404
      @ryanmarquez9404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea the one side that just lost the election and let over 300k of their own countrymen die to own the libs....

    • @samualcrocket1405
      @samualcrocket1405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ryanmarquez9404 You didn't win anything. The Democrat Party is guilty of election fraud, sedition, and treason.

    • @bernardfinucane2061
      @bernardfinucane2061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Two more senators. They should go for it.

    • @spacemarinechaplain9367
      @spacemarinechaplain9367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ryanmarquez9404 Wanting LA to fuck off into its own state is pretty bipartisan.

    • @russcrawford3310
      @russcrawford3310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LONG LIVE the great STATE of JEFFERSON ...

  • @a.g.marshall2191
    @a.g.marshall2191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Nice cat. Now you're The Bond Villain Guy.

    • @JOESMITH-qs8ue
      @JOESMITH-qs8ue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I half expected his closing to be " hope you enjoyed this video, except you Mister Bond"

  • @wildbillarizona3237
    @wildbillarizona3237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I live in God's own country (Cochise County, Arizona and just a few miles from the site of the famous shootout) and am grateful for the Gadsden Purchase! I own my own little piece of heaven here! I recall reading about the purchase when I was in college. Living here, it was of great interest to me. I read that of the three original proposals, congress rejected the two larger ones (in favor of the smaller one made even smaller) as Northern States feared adding so much new, potentially slave, territory so the compromise was for the least area required for the railroad path. Much like the derision of Seward received (Seward's Folly etc) for the Alaska Purchase, most in Congress felt they were paying too much for a barren, economically worthless piece of land. I wonder how history would have changed had the U.S. purchased the largest option?

  • @brentboswell1294
    @brentboswell1294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My childhood home was in the Gadsden Purchase...I grew up literally right on the Texas/New Mexico border in El Paso. Our house was built on a plot of land that was apparently right in the course of the Rio Grande when the international boundary was established (as a kid, we could cut over a fence and be on the river levee in no time). We were on the west side of town, and were well north of the post-Gadsden Purchase international border. Part of my parents' property was in New Mexico! The surrounding school district in New Mexico was the Gadsden School District. My grandfather was an employee of the Southern Pacific railroad.

  • @dalerobinson8051
    @dalerobinson8051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i grew up in the (land secured by the) Gadsden Purchase. Thanks for highlighting it.

  • @10thleperjohn76
    @10thleperjohn76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Show idea. "The crash at Crush" A promotional stunt of epic failure. Two steam trains traveling at 45 miles per hour at each other. Death and mayhem ensued. One man's bad idea, one spectacular event.

  • @RetiredSailor60
    @RetiredSailor60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Good morning History Guy and everyone watching from Ft Worth TX

    • @dennislogan6781
      @dennislogan6781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in and work for Fort Worth Texas. What a small world.

    • @RetiredSailor60
      @RetiredSailor60 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dennislogan6781 I live in Watauga and work in Dallas

    • @jamesweir139
      @jamesweir139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good morning Fort Worth from Lake Tahoe, CA

    • @MrTruehoustonian
      @MrTruehoustonian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm from further south I'm from Houston, but I'm sure we all love history that why were here.

    • @RetiredSailor60
      @RetiredSailor60 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrTruehoustonian I have a brother in Houston, one in League City, and another on Galveston Island

  • @henrykrecklow817
    @henrykrecklow817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Glad to hear you say Council Bluffs Iowa as the starting point of the central route of the Trans Continental railroad . Lots of people say it was Omaha Neb.

    • @jeffwalther3935
      @jeffwalther3935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that occurred to me too, but its like distinguishing Minneapolis from St.Paul too; a necessary discrimination of our public administration system, perhaps arbitrary and capricious as any boundaries have become that we've developed in our do-it-yourself, innovate as necessary, on-the-fly government.
      The Missouri River separate the two, making up the state border. By just crossing the line into Nebraska, the terms of the contracts of the transcontinental railroad MAY have been met for an entire new state WITHOUT having to immediately traverse the length of the state with track, thus the starting/stopping point for the reasonable purposes of funding, right'-of-way, land grants, etc. being designated for investment purposes as the city just west of the last border state tracked, Council Bluffs, Iowa, just happening to be Omaha, Nebraska, I guess.

    • @henrykrecklow817
      @henrykrecklow817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffwalther3935 There's a book (Dirty, Wicked Town (Omaha) very interesting reading about Omaha Neb.

    • @jeffwalther3935
      @jeffwalther3935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henrykrecklow817 Yes, what's interesting about it? Please just summarize, or say what you want or mean to say without telling me to do something other than think about what you said. We may agree.
      But what in the world is distinctive about Omaha that such disparaging things could be attributed to Omaha especially? I'm getting a regionalist slant on your questions. Please indicate the real source of your irritation?, perception of injustice, (to C.B., IA?) I'm from the area, so know of the inherent, juvenile-based, regional rivalry and competitiveness of the natives too. Grow up.

  • @discerningmind
    @discerningmind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How sweet, the cat in Daddy's arms listening.

  • @markthervguy
    @markthervguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Mesilla New Mexico where the transfer of the land in the Gadsden Purchase took place. Nothing much has changed since then either in Mesilla, New Mexico. Well we do have indoor plumbing and electricity, but it's still a quaint siesta community.

  • @karenharper2266
    @karenharper2266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the History Guy Cat. I came for the history, but am also here for the cat. LOL!

  • @memathews
    @memathews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    This was interesting, I'd forgotten so much about the Gadsden Purchase. Schooling in Oregon focused on the Mexican cession of Alta California on the Oregon Country's southern border in 1846 and the Oregon Treaty setting the 49th Parallel as the boundary with the Columbia District of British North America. Then the Oregon Question that was finally settled with Britain in 1872. Might be an interesting story on how Britain and the U.S. managed the borders without starting a major war even as both sides had major business interests.

    • @michaeldougfir9807
      @michaeldougfir9807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are right. The arrangement of Canada/US border segments IS very interesting. Let's ask HG to address it for us. Including the western part that looks like a giant lawn mower went through the forest.

    • @gotsloco1810
      @gotsloco1810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The world’s most perfect war the “Pig War”

    • @calichekid8897
      @calichekid8897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaeldougfir9807 Was that where "54 40 or fight" came from?

    • @michaeldougfir9807
      @michaeldougfir9807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@calichekid8897
      Presidebtial candidare Polk's primary campaign issue was to expand the United States to include Texas and the Pacific Northwest. Polk's battle cry was "Fifty-four forty or fight," which meant the United States would accept nothing less from the British than all of the Oregon Country, as far north as the border of Alaska.
      (54° 40' North latitude)

    • @michaeldougfir9807
      @michaeldougfir9807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calichekid8897
      Polk's primary campaign issue was to expand the United States to include Texas and the Pacific Northwest. Polk's battle cry was "Fifty-four forty or fight," (latitude) which meant the United States would accept nothing less from the British than all of the Oregon Country, as far north as the border of Alaska.

  • @jerrymiller276
    @jerrymiller276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was ever so much more interesting than the dry facts of the Gadsden Purchase as it was presented in our history books back when I was in school. I think understanding the forces behind the history is much more valuable than merely memorizing dates and who was involved, information which was promply forgotten after the final exam.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Good to see The History Cat again.

  • @michaelroberson2546
    @michaelroberson2546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up in Hayden, Arizona which, without the Gadsden purchase, would be right on the international border of the US with Mexico. That purchase was taught at least 4 times to me in elementary through high school. On a particular travel note, there is in Douglas, Arizona, the Gadsden Hotel. It's a remarkable building with a rich history of its own. Cheers from Arizona HG.

  • @halnywiatr
    @halnywiatr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ 12:44 Cue for Bond villain.

  • @jackfowler6249
    @jackfowler6249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up in what was part of the Gadsden Purchase. Although I never heard about it in school, a visiting aunt (a school teacher) asked if we were in what had been the Gadsden Purchase. Of course I had no idea and didn't until I looked it up some time later.
    I grew up in a town called Sierra Vista, outside an Army base.

  • @CallieMasters5000
    @CallieMasters5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    You look like a James Bond villain with your kitty. 😁

    • @LuckyBaldwin777
      @LuckyBaldwin777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      With the bow tie he could be "Bowfeld" instead of Blofeld.

    • @njpaddler
      @njpaddler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Dr. Yes"

    • @egmccann
      @egmccann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A very polite and knowledgeable one, yes. "This is the last time you will interfere with my plans, Mr. Bond. Plans that involve steam powered cars and go back to 1883, which is history that deserves to be remembered. In 1883..." *wins award for most interesting and detailed monologue ever.*

    • @dirtyblueshirt
      @dirtyblueshirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Do you expect me to talk?"
      "No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to remember history."

    • @alohathaxted
      @alohathaxted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Historically, you will not be remembered Mr. Bond! More Pussy Galore?

  • @jwpipes47
    @jwpipes47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm loving all that Star Trek on screen during the promo haha

  • @kathleenchristian8020
    @kathleenchristian8020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your kitty "historical advisor!!"

  • @davidtucker3729
    @davidtucker3729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Canadian lad we were taught a fair bit of US history back in the 60's and 70's but this never came up at all. Thanks for more "forgotten history" that is rounding out my knowledge of our great southern neighbour.!

  • @danielrhouck
    @danielrhouck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I haven't seen the actual sponsor segment yet, just the introductory "brought to you by NordVPN", but I'm now imagining how you could do it. Blah blah VPNs are this, industry-leading privacy guarantees, "Because your browsing history deserves to be forgotten"

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A great episode, as usual, and the elusive History Cat makes a rare appearance! We need more History Cat, and more of Mrs. History Guy as well!

  • @AAA999XYZ
    @AAA999XYZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm enjoying these new THG intros. I like how it's a bit different each time

  • @DavidWGould
    @DavidWGould 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have been watching for the past couple months. I appreciate your perspective on history. The way you look at what lead up to the event and what the percussions of the event and who was involved. I to love history growing up overseas as a military brat. I got to see history during the Cold War and it impact today. It would be fun to sit down with a drink and talk history from WWI to today. Thanks for your love for history.

  • @krisinsaigon
    @krisinsaigon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    HAPPY NEW YEAR HISTORY GUY

  • @A.J.1489
    @A.J.1489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remembering Global History in college was like going to the DMV with your phone's battery dead and you have three more hours there. This Guy makes it SO much more interesting unlike Professor Ellison with almost the same voice saying, Bueller, Bueller.....lol

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I remember about this treaty was the decision not to include the Baja peninsula because it was thought to be useless. Today Gold, Copper, Tungsten and Manganese are mined there and the main industry is tourism as the peninsula has some of the best beaches in the world. Plus, because it's closer to the equator then Cape Canaveral it would have been a great place to build a spaceport! But poor Mexico, it had the best and the worse neighbor to have: America.

    • @johnb5254
      @johnb5254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes what a mistake that was.

  • @dougstubbs9637
    @dougstubbs9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Factual, clear and brief, and delivered with charm. Excellent episode.

  • @rabbit251
    @rabbit251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your channel! This one was great. I had always wondered about the Gadsen Purchase. I have always loved some of the more obscure or not so obvious reasons for history. Barb Tuchman was great at this. If you haven't read her books you should. They would be a great source for stories. (Her theory of what the British Fleet of the coast of America didn't come to Cornwall's defense was simply that their admiral suffered from gaut (sp???).
    You should do a story on the settling of the northern border with Canada, primarily focus on Dr. Vancouver who actually lived in Oregon City, just outside Portland today. He was a doctor and his office is still a museum in Oregon City today. I had heard that headed to Canada after the deal was struck. Besides Vancouver, British Colombia, there is also a Vancouver, Washington. A city just north of Portland.
    Also interesting was the visit of a sea captain and the exploration of Lewis and Clark which gave US claim to the area. Also of interest is the Oregon Trail and the route that people had to take, including a choice of going over the mountains or going down river which at that time included some rapids of which some settlers didn't survive. While doing road work in Oregon they came across an unmarked grave of someone who had died presumably an explorer from the Trail.

    • @rabbit251
      @rabbit251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had wanted to add that when I was in college, my professor assigned to me a paper on what was Spain's role in the American Revolutionary War. France was our ally, but little known was that Spain too had joined our cause. Directly Spain did little to help us, but they did create a naval battle which they lost to their detriment. But it did draw the British Navy away from the US so indirectly they helped us.

  • @purpleunicornmedia
    @purpleunicornmedia ปีที่แล้ว

    I listened to this whilst cleaning and couldn't understand the constant mention of "rout", but eventually realised it's a US pronunciation of "route"! Made a lot more sense then!

  • @johntabler349
    @johntabler349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tiny little aside, in an episode of Have Gun Will Travel, a major plot point involved the army's camel experiment

  • @Cliff_Dixon_42
    @Cliff_Dixon_42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up in Las Cruces (I've even moved back, as I'm currently IN said city), so the Gadsden Purchase is certainly remembered there.
    One story I learned which DOES involve the Gadsden Purchase: in 1848, when the Mexican-American War ended, US troops entered into the area, near the largest town near the new border -- Doña Ana (currently north of LC, and the namesake for the county). Well, quite a few locals did not LIKE the new "Yankees" and did not LIKE being on the wrong side of the border, so they moved south across the aforementioned border and formed a new village -- Mesilla (currently southwest of LC, and the namesake for the Valley mentioned in the video).
    Five years later, some of those same locals in Mesilla were likely in the village courtyard (which is still there, with a gazebo commemorating the event) watching the "Celebration" (@10:00 of the video with the artist depiction) of the Gadsden Purchase. Some of them may have been thinking, "WHY ME? WHAT DID I DO TO GET THESE YANKEES ON ME AGAIN?"

  • @MasterOfNothing83
    @MasterOfNothing83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Cheese rolling in the UK? I'd love to know the history of that. Cheers!

  • @charlesseymour1482
    @charlesseymour1482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My God what a great short film segment. I am from Texas but attended college in NM. Sister lives in Las Cruces.

  • @mattkaustickomments
    @mattkaustickomments 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first moved to Charleston, SC, I worked on a project for luxury retirement community called Bishop Gadsden. I immediately thought of the Gadsden Purchase, and wondered if there was somehow a connection. Turns out yes, yes there is! Thanks HG!

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    A really great history of the Transcontinental Railroad is "The Empire Express" by David Haward Bain. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in U.S history, the "Old West", or railroads.

  • @brittjohnson2093
    @brittjohnson2093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m from Bisbee AZ born & raised, really enjoyed this knowledge share.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lovely little village. We have some Bisbee topics in the hopper. But the last time we visited, it snowed.

    • @yaztha01
      @yaztha01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel el gobierno de Sonora argumenta un fraude y que es ilegal.eso costo que america matará a casi la mitad de nosotros.que dijo su majestad católica Fernando VII.

  • @TSemasFl
    @TSemasFl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We should have bought that Baha peninsula. Imagine all that nice beachfront realestate?

    • @jjeherrera
      @jjeherrera 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the pollution of the Gulf of Baja California, which is a major marine reserve...

  • @kevinpowell558
    @kevinpowell558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Camel corps ended up at Fort Tejon- just outside the small town of Lebec along the I 5 ( Southern California)in what is called The Grapevine. A few Civil War recreations contain an exhibit from the Docents at Ft Tejon promoting the history of the Camel Corps. Eventually it was disbanded. Camels are waaaaay to ornery for American cowboys to deal with. Legend has it the camels were let loose in the desert where one may come upon their descendants on a dark desert night while camping out. The reality is much more pedestrian. The camels were returned to Arabia from where the originally came.

  • @MegaFortinbras
    @MegaFortinbras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something on the Pig War of 1859 might be interesting. This was a dispute caused by some sloppy wording in the Oregon Treaty, which said that the border between Canada and the United States should go down the center of the navigable channel of the strait between Vancouver Island and the mainland. The problem was that there are two such channels , one east and one west of a group of islands. Both sides claimed the islands. I shall leave it to the History Guy to give the rest of it. I shall just say that the name "Pig War" comes from the sole casualty of the dispute, one pig.

  • @charlesseymour1482
    @charlesseymour1482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that train route as I took the Texas Flyer west a few years back in 2016. Great rail run.

  • @ericbutler2013
    @ericbutler2013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for covering this bit of history. Having relatives in Douglas, AZ and spending some time there - the Gadsden purchase and various landmarks were talked about quite often - including a rumored horseback ride by Pancho Villa up the steps of the Gadsden Hotel in Douglas (which left chips in the marble steps). Thought it was interesting that you mentioned the use of camels - wild camels were still being seen in the desert southwest into the early 20th century.. Great vid.

  • @jamesstrang9483
    @jamesstrang9483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When asked for my location I often say I live in The Gadsden Purchase.

    • @rodritchison1995
      @rodritchison1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet that gets a few curious looks.

    • @zonarider673
      @zonarider673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in the GP, too😄 Thanks for the idea of saying that instead of Tucson🤣👍

  • @williamcarnell2251
    @williamcarnell2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just adding a little factoid about the camel corp that was commanded by General Edward Fitzgerald Beale. Camp Beale, roughly 40 miles north of Sacramento, was an army tank base during world war two and named after Gen. Beale. The camp became Beale Air Force Base after the war and is still in operation today. I spent 3 years during the mid 1970's at Beale A.F.B. working on avionics of several aircraft including SR-71, U-2, T-38 & KC-135. The best years of my life.

    • @loumontcalm3500
      @loumontcalm3500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, “Beale’s Cut”, an early pass dug out of the hills north of the San Fernando Valley. Many old western movies used it as a location. There used to be a stone column with a brass plaque at the trailhead, but thieves stole the plaque for scrap value, and the pullover became a dumping ground for trash. The trailhead is now fenced off, and few know about Beale’s Cut anymore.

    • @williamcarnell2251
      @williamcarnell2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loumontcalm3500 Just in the last month I heard of Beales Cut on one of these sites that explore wild west locations. I assumed it had some relationship to Gen. Beale but failed to Google it like I usually do. I hadn't heard of it beforehand. The guy really got around back then.

  • @handyadams3319
    @handyadams3319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a grey tom myself as well as being another that loves history. Being a Canadian whom history is overwhelmed by the media to our south your bits of this and that are wonderful and let us know that there is more than out there than the oficial line. BRAVO

  • @MadMax-bq6pg
    @MadMax-bq6pg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating as always. I cannot remember which blogger I learned the phrase “I think you’ll find it’s more complicated than that” from, but you always put the historical twists and turns in & it makes the history “real” to me.
    A big hi from downunder 👍

  • @mjdntn
    @mjdntn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a road sign on US-95 in southern Yuma County, Arizona, near the town of Gadsden, that shows the miles to "Old Mexico".

  • @MartinJDavidson
    @MartinJDavidson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the 3-cent commemorative stamp you shared {for the philatelists among us)!

  • @dpault
    @dpault 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Please consider an episode about the "Molly Maguires" in Pennsylvania.

    • @p7sky
      @p7sky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree; it's a fascinating story.

  • @marstondavis
    @marstondavis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vast portions of that land is very fertile farm land today. Tens of millions of dollars of crops are harvested each year.

  • @chrisenglish4380
    @chrisenglish4380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have only been on utube for four years ...History Guy is my one and only favorite

  • @southilgurl2003
    @southilgurl2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Happy New Year History Cat!

  • @HemlockRidge
    @HemlockRidge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy New Year HG, Ms. HG, and History Cat. Glad to see you HC.

  • @franknicholson6108
    @franknicholson6108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting as usual. Polititions, even back then, couldn't get along. WHAT A SURPRISE. Thanks Again.

  • @orcuttnyc
    @orcuttnyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again and a hope for a happy New Year ahead!

  • @dougkippen4971
    @dougkippen4971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New Year!
    Looking forward to learning more history that occurred outside of the USA.

  • @stevenmetzger3385
    @stevenmetzger3385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HAPPY NEW YEAR TO THE HISTORY CAT!!!

  • @philhartman1501
    @philhartman1501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Episode Idea. The history of how to set your table.

  • @fredherfst8148
    @fredherfst8148 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🇨🇦Good episode, full of detail, and yet tells a good story. Really helps to understand the roots of today's US.

  • @eatportchops
    @eatportchops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Southern Pacific reached the sleepy West Texas town of El Paso and things would never be the same again. Mesilla New Mexico where the treaty was signed is still a sleepy little town where Billy the Kid spent some time. Have you done an episode on the Lincoln County War?

  • @BuzzinVideography
    @BuzzinVideography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES! THANK YOU! Continually learning from your videos have helped me grow and control memory loss for years. I’m incredibly grateful that you provide us such amazing history.

  • @ironman1518.
    @ironman1518. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to hear you mention the Mesilla Valley!! I live there, in Las Cruces.!!

  • @SigmaSheepdog
    @SigmaSheepdog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the very interesting video! I lived in Las Cruces NM near Mesilla for many years and I always wondered about the Gadsden Purchase.

  • @scottjohnston8044
    @scottjohnston8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy your channel. With the holidays I am catching up on episodes. So, it amazes me how little people know about history and especially when the subjects are still effecting their daily lives in a very profound way. I have worked for, let's say the majority of existing railroads. I don't want to be called out if I say everyone and someone pulls out one like the small one in Eureka Springs Arkansas. I have done work for many of these companies that do dinner trains and theater, mystery. Most of my work though was for the railroads that deliver pretty much every single product that you use. Not an exaggeration. I owned a right of way clearing and maintenance company. I have worked in every state except Alaska, yes even Hawaii on the islands of Maui and Kauai. I have seen many parts of this great country that probably have not been seen by many people, let alone visited and worked in. I have also had the great pleasure of meeting many wonderful people in my travels. It always struck me in all the conversations that I had and loved. It always caught me by surprise how much the railroads were transparent or invisible to them. When asked what I did, one reaction was at the top. Railroads, really, I didn't think that was really a thing anymore. Not kidding. I really learned a lot of history doing that job and had the best office. I will always recommend a cross country sleeper and be sure to catch one sunrise and sunset in an observation car. Doesn't matter where you are, it's a glorious sight. Peace and prosperity for all in the nee year.

  • @yaragi
    @yaragi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy New Year to THG and Your family!
    Fans from Finland.

  • @xvsj5833
    @xvsj5833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THG Happy New Years, love your channel ❤️

  • @zimmy1958
    @zimmy1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a great video and Happy New Year.

  • @tundramanq
    @tundramanq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The then Southern Pacific line is still the cheapest and fastest line to the Pacific as it needs less locomotive power by evading the Rockies and the mountains around the continental divide. Having to add engines for the slow steep switchback grades and then removing them on the other side.

  • @retriever19golden55
    @retriever19golden55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Closing in a million subscribers! History isn't dead in America after all. Great job!

  • @a.s.3267
    @a.s.3267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your internet experience is one story you don't want to involve pirates. 😆

  • @jliller
    @jliller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew of the Gadsden Purchase and the central reason behind it (Southern Pacific RR) but there was more to the story than I realized.

  • @nilo70
    @nilo70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Lance !

  • @DonaldWMeyers-dwm
    @DonaldWMeyers-dwm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about a piece about the Mormon Batallion, a force that marched through the area of the Gadsden Purchase in what their commander described as one of the most arduous marches undertaken.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Mormon Battalion is certainly on our to do list.

    • @DonaldWMeyers-dwm
      @DonaldWMeyers-dwm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel You'll find there is a link between the batallion and Lewis & Clark's Corps of Discovery.