The sound reminds me of sleeping over at my grandmother's house so long ago and listening to the train whistle in the distance as I was lying in bad late at night. Awesome memory.
0:52 or so, YISH! The amount of cars following 4014! As one UP exec said, "This thing is like the Beatles of the steam world!" And he's absolutely right!
Even over here in Sri Lanka, old steam locomotives are repaired and brought back into service to haul a few old fashioned carriages as a tourist attraction. However, just like in your case, there is a diesel engine attached (at the end of the train) as well. There is also a a carriage in which technicians / repair crews travel , in case to attend to any repairs on the way.
LOL! You can also just HEAR the pleading from 4014, **AHEM!!! In Yakko's voice from the Animaniacs** "Pretty please, could you like, put another 180 cars loaded with coal behind me?!?!?!? I ain't breaking a sweat here!!! Wha? No more coal?!?!?!? UMMM.....I know, fill 'em with wheat, grain and whatever you got!!! I want to stretch out my work out legs here!!!"
Unfortunately FRA does not allow this. The diesel electric provides the modern componets to railroading mainly th dynamic brakes. Without it the train would be almost impossible to stop in the event of an emergency.
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This video shows the Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 doing one of the things that it was originally designed to do. I counted 21 freight style cars behind the heritage fleet cars. This locomotive was originally designed to pull long freight trains over mountain passes.
For your information David, when the Big Boy was built the heaviest freight car capacity in tonnage was 50 tons. Those hoppers in this video have a 100 ton capacity. If these cars were loaded they would have been about 100 tons each.
@@ernestyeagley512 yes however they would have been a bit more resistant as most were still friction bearings so it would have evened it out a little and remember the harder you work a steamer the more it makes of its rated horsepower from the draft provided to combustion as well as using shorter cut off to fully use the expansion of the steam before its pushed out up the stack, even 50 hoppers fully loaded would just be starting make a steamer like this sweat, they were some of the highest hp ever built, onlything with more hp were the allegheny h8 class, perhaps the q2, and the s1 though some debate that the s1 put out 7000 hp, and around the nw class a's on raw dyno mesured hp. in a word they are the big 5 I would say,
I've noticed that #4014 seems to consistently burn cleaner than #3985 ever did, and both were converted to run oil. I know the Big Boy has a larger fire grate than the Challenger, but did they improve the injectors for the bunker fuel in this latest project to burn more efficiently? Or are they deliberately firing #4014 more leanly for a deliberately lighter exhaust? Perhaps they were constantly dumping extra fuel into #3985 to get the massive coal--black stack clouds for the photo ops that everyone wanted back then?
LouisXXVdeFrance yeah part of the reason it burns cleaner is because they learned from the challenger and improved it but the other half of it is that the boiler had so much scale in the boiler that they had to give challenger a bigger fire to keep boiler pressure.
Great Video. Such a treat to have a cameraman who: 1. is content to take a fixed shot and let the train stream towards you as it would appear in real life rather than the current vogue to freeze the loco and let the landscape move. 2. Uses a medium zoom so the train appears to be running at a realistic speed rather than the ludicrous effect of a loco thrashing like mad to do a snails pace. 3. Actually uses a tripod. Pity the tracking shot was on the shadow side of the loco but there was nothing you could do about that.
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions Might as well, the only thing the diesel's good for is running the grease compressor, heating the water for the crew's shower, running the galley and providing the power for the lights, computers, TVs and such.
Apparently this was a last minute change of plans. While 4014 was preparing to depart for Nebraska, UP officials called the steam crew and informed them that they had a local freight for North Platte needing to be moved and were upgrading their priority. The result was this very rare sight for us steam fans!
I don't think they would have ever run an FEF3 in doubleheader with a Big Boy, although possibly they might have worked together in pusher service at some point. But the Big Boys were designed to handle the trains without a pusher, so probably not.
The diesel is there for air compressor, electrical power for the coaches, as well as emergency motive power. But, since 4014 is primarily a PR tool, why are they hauling the grainers at all?
I don't know but for some reason 4014 doesn't sound like it's operating at Full Steam something sounds off compared to many other steam engines I've heard there's a big clanking noise 2 I could be wrong, I still love 4014 and 844
I'm a blind man so I didn't see the video I just listen to it, what's 4014 by itself pulling all those cars plus the diesel or was 844 behind 4014 I couldn't see it
Well, I'm drifting and I'm drifting, like a ship out on the sea Drifting and I'm drifting, like a ship out on the sea Well, I ain't got 'nuff freight cars baby, to make a decent load for me.
The Schedule can be found at the union pacific steam schedule which is this link www.up.com/heritage/steam/schedule/index.htm but unfortunately, I don't think it's coming anywhere near Connecticut.
Finally he's doing what he's happy doing, pulling freight. I know they cannot ditch the GE because of rule and regulations but we dont need those coaches on it.. Add a respectable string of intermodal cars and put that bad ass machine to work.. Make some of the money back it took to raise him from the dead.
I suspect they are easing into it. They don't want to max it out until they are happy everything in the locomotive has seated properly. This is still very much running it in. I'm sure they will do some impressive stuff with it once they are confident.
When this thing was designed in WWII, it was designed to haul at least 150-200 FULLY LOADED coal cars up Donner pass up a 2% grade no less all by itself at a speed of no less than 35MPH! On a flat terrain it's rated as much as 80MPH I heard although Ed Dicken, the curator and head of UP's Steam program said the best it can do right now is up to 60MPH....But being a little anal (Ummm.....Can you really blame him?!?!?!? 4014 is like....ummm.....I don't know....Only one of its kind here!) the max he'll run it is 55MPH.......Even if its barely at quarter power and barely breaking a sweat!
@@StryderK There is so much dis-information about these engines. Big Boys were not designed to haul anything over Donner Pass. The 25 Big Boy locomotives were built to haul freight over the Wasatch mountains between Ogden, Utah, and Green River, Wyoming. In the late 1940s, they were reassigned to Cheyenne, Wyoming, where they hauled freight over Sherman Hill to Laramie, Wyoming. That is the only place they were used. Over a ruling grade of 1.14% the 4-8-8-4s could move 4,000 tons (3,636 tonnes) of freight at 20-25 mph (32-40.25 km/h). When the ruling grade between Ogden, Utah and Green River, Wyoming (176 miles/283 km) was reduced to 0.82%, the tonnage rating climbed to 5,360 tons (4,873 tonnes). At 45 mph (72.5 km/h), these engines developed 6,000 drawbar horsepower (4,476 kW). Among their many abilities was the flexibility to move around curves of 20 deg.
Not exactly. The two yellow cars are actually giant water cars. They carry additional water so they don't have to water up the tender constantly if I understand it correctly.
@@AutismTakesOn Don't know for sure. It might be because 4014 (and in years past, 3985) use a lot more water on long trips than 844. 3985 is shown pulling two in many pictures of its trips.
The two extra tenders are since none of the water tanks that used to be on this route are there anymore this means that they need to carry their water so they don't have to stop often to get the tender filled. When they get to the final stop of the day they re-water all the tenders with a fire hydrant near to where they are.
@@zethmoreland2017 The reason they aren't pulling a longer train yet is because they are still testing the big boy and making sure it functions properly. I'm sure once they are confident in the big boy's ability they will pull a longer train
No. An ES44AC is rated at 183,000 pounds-force starting tractive effort and 166,000 pounds-force continuous tractive effort whereas the Big Boy is rated at just over 135,000 pounds-force tractive effort. Modern diesel locomotives have much better performance than any steamer.
Hopefully they can get the trackway fixed. I remember during the Golden Spike westbound run they were stopped for a couple of days by track repair work ongoing. Good to see they're staying safe with that flood stuff.
The sound reminds me of sleeping over at my grandmother's house so long ago and listening to the train whistle in the distance as I was lying in bad late at night. Awesome memory.
Thank you so much for the great video.
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0:52 or so, YISH! The amount of cars following 4014! As one UP exec said, "This thing is like the Beatles of the steam world!" And he's absolutely right!
Even over here in Sri Lanka, old steam locomotives are repaired and brought back into service to haul a few old fashioned carriages as a tourist attraction. However, just like in your case, there is a diesel engine attached (at the end of the train) as well. There is also a a carriage in which technicians / repair crews travel , in case to attend to any repairs on the way.
4014 whistle sounds great thanks for the update
Hello from France wonderful video thank you for posting ^^
Love seeing Big Boy #4014 pulling some freight! You know the tree huggers, and the new green deal cronies, just hate seeing this marvelous time piece!
LOL! You can also just HEAR the pleading from 4014, **AHEM!!! In Yakko's voice from the Animaniacs** "Pretty please, could you like, put another 180 cars loaded with coal behind me?!?!?!? I ain't breaking a sweat here!!! Wha? No more coal?!?!?!? UMMM.....I know, fill 'em with wheat, grain and whatever you got!!! I want to stretch out my work out legs here!!!"
Great video! Hope to see more from you and too see this channel grow!
Excellent video footage
I wish 4014 was put used on a hotshot mainline mixed freight to North Plate without the diesel now that would be a amazing sight.
yeah that would be amazing
Unfortunately FRA does not allow this. The diesel electric provides the modern componets to railroading mainly th dynamic brakes. Without it the train would be almost impossible to stop in the event of an emergency.
@@Elfnetdesigns It would still stop in an emergency, just further down the line. But I do get that Big Boy doesn't meet the modern requirements.
Bigboy wont pull any hotshots i.e. the challenge intermodal gig... Its too slow was never meant for fast freight... 50 MPH or so is max for it...
@@chrisjohnson4666 Bigboy is rated for 80MPh. the operators do not want to run it that fast.
Those covered hoppers look like the same ones that were in the train that hauled the dead 4014 out of California.
Kickass rock and roll rock and roll
First video I've heard of 4014 where I can actually hear it working, love that engine
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That Thing Is Loud And And Huge
agreed
It's nice to see pulling freight car's.
This video shows the Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 doing one of the things that it was originally designed to do. I counted 21 freight style cars behind the heritage fleet cars. This locomotive was originally designed to pull long freight trains over mountain passes.
For your information David, when the Big Boy was built the heaviest freight car capacity in tonnage was 50 tons. Those hoppers in this video have a 100 ton capacity. If these cars were loaded they would have been about 100 tons each.
@@ernestyeagley512 yes however they would have been a bit more resistant as most were still friction bearings so it would have evened it out a little and remember the harder you work a steamer the more it makes of its rated horsepower from the draft provided to combustion as well as using shorter cut off to fully use the expansion of the steam before its pushed out up the stack, even 50 hoppers fully loaded would just be starting make a steamer like this sweat, they were some of the highest hp ever built, onlything with more hp were the allegheny h8 class, perhaps the q2, and the s1 though some debate that the s1 put out 7000 hp, and around the nw class a's on raw dyno mesured hp. in a word they are the big 5 I would say,
I've noticed that #4014 seems to consistently burn cleaner than #3985 ever did, and both were converted to run oil. I know the Big Boy has a larger fire grate than the Challenger, but did they improve the injectors for the bunker fuel in this latest project to burn more efficiently? Or are they deliberately firing #4014 more leanly for a deliberately lighter exhaust? Perhaps they were constantly dumping extra fuel into #3985 to get the massive coal--black stack clouds for the photo ops that everyone wanted back then?
LouisXXVdeFrance yeah part of the reason it burns cleaner is because they learned from the challenger and improved it but the other half of it is that the boiler had so much scale in the boiler that they had to give challenger a bigger fire to keep boiler pressure.
Great Video. Such a treat to have a cameraman who:
1. is content to take a fixed shot and let the train stream towards you as it would appear in real life rather than the current vogue to freeze the loco and let the landscape move.
2. Uses a medium zoom so the train appears to be running at a realistic speed rather than the ludicrous effect of a loco thrashing like mad to do a snails pace.
3. Actually uses a tripod.
Pity the tracking shot was on the shadow side of the loco but there was nothing you could do about that.
Thats good to know I'm not the only one who enjoys shots like this
I definitely like that too.
This still got it made
Der Big Boy, ohne 844, einfach Geil.
Einverstanden
I wonder what they've got in the grain hopper for weight? The heavier the load, the better 4014 will run, she's made to haul loads.
I Think they just had grain in the hoppers but they were using the dynamic brakes on the diesel to give more resistance to the big boy
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions Might as well, the only thing the diesel's good for is running the grease compressor, heating the water for the crew's shower, running the galley and providing the power for the lights, computers, TVs and such.
@@Chuck59ish, It doesn't,t even give the power that's what the power to the train cars that is what the Howard Fogg power car is for
They need to give it about 200 freight cars!
Big boy is pulling freight on only its 3rd run since returning to steam! 21 hoppers is better than just the five support cars!
Heavy hoppers too supposedly full of portland cement...
At 1.2(?) million pounds 4014 needs that extra braking capacity to get stopped from 70 mph. That's why all the hopper cars.
Apparently this was a last minute change of plans. While 4014 was preparing to depart for Nebraska, UP officials called the steam crew and informed them that they had a local freight for North Platte needing to be moved and were upgrading their priority. The result was this very rare sight for us steam fans!
which generation did the bigboy sing anymore than 1941 or current 2019? but the current gift is for the steam world
Not trying to aggravate fans of the 844 and 4014 combo but I hate it. I like big boy on its own tbh. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.
I don't think they would have ever run an FEF3 in doubleheader with a Big Boy, although possibly they might have worked together in pusher service at some point. But the Big Boys were designed to handle the trains without a pusher, so probably not.
The diesel is there for air compressor, electrical power for the coaches, as well as emergency motive power. But, since 4014 is primarily a PR tool, why are they hauling the grainers at all?
I don't know
I just thought of this, They just put new cylinder packing in the cylinders and to set the packing you have to use a heavy load
I don't know but for some reason 4014 doesn't sound like it's operating at Full Steam something sounds off compared to many other steam engines I've heard there's a big clanking noise 2 I could be wrong, I still love 4014 and 844
I'm a blind man so I didn't see the video I just listen to it, what's 4014 by itself pulling all those cars plus the diesel or was 844 behind 4014 I couldn't see it
@@gregbates703 4014 was by itself in this video. Aside from having a diesel in tow along with all of the cars.
Well, I'm drifting and I'm drifting, like a ship out on the sea
Drifting and I'm drifting, like a ship out on the sea
Well, I ain't got 'nuff freight cars baby,
to make a decent load for me.
Is this marvelous steam train coming anywhere near connecticut??? Any help with schedule would be greatly appreciated.
George.
The Schedule can be found at the union pacific steam schedule which is this link www.up.com/heritage/steam/schedule/index.htm but unfortunately, I don't think it's coming anywhere near Connecticut.
It's unlikely. It's tour is supposed to be limited to UP trackage only.
Thank you folks, and I'm happy for the ones of you who have had the privilege of seeing this beauty.
sweet, to bad they didn't have a caboose as well
Finally he's doing what he's happy doing, pulling freight. I know they cannot ditch the GE because of rule and regulations but we dont need those coaches on it.. Add a respectable string of intermodal cars and put that bad ass machine to work.. Make some of the money back it took to raise him from the dead.
I think those are for the maintenance crew.
@@MusingMageofDisney This be true. but in the perfect world they would not be needed.
Im mad because it wasent longer
I suspect they are easing into it. They don't want to max it out until they are happy everything in the locomotive has seated properly. This is still very much running it in. I'm sure they will do some impressive stuff with it once they are confident.
Hey, I have a favor to ask.
What is it
Wait, How Many Cars Can The Big Boy Pull? The Strength Of A Diesel Engine?
Big boys can pull about a 150 car train on a steep hill but I'm sure it can pull more in flat terrain. So it is not pulling as many cars as it could.
ColoradoRailroadProductions Oh I See
When this thing was designed in WWII, it was designed to haul at least 150-200 FULLY LOADED coal cars up Donner pass up a 2% grade no less all by itself at a speed of no less than 35MPH! On a flat terrain it's rated as much as 80MPH I heard although Ed Dicken, the curator and head of UP's Steam program said the best it can do right now is up to 60MPH....But being a little anal (Ummm.....Can you really blame him?!?!?!? 4014 is like....ummm.....I don't know....Only one of its kind here!) the max he'll run it is 55MPH.......Even if its barely at quarter power and barely breaking a sweat!
@@StryderK There is so much dis-information about these engines. Big Boys were not designed to haul anything over Donner Pass. The 25 Big Boy locomotives were built to haul freight over the Wasatch mountains between Ogden, Utah, and Green River, Wyoming. In the late 1940s, they were reassigned to Cheyenne, Wyoming, where they hauled freight over Sherman Hill to Laramie, Wyoming. That is the only place they were used. Over a ruling grade of 1.14% the 4-8-8-4s could move 4,000 tons (3,636 tonnes) of freight at 20-25 mph (32-40.25 km/h). When the ruling grade between Ogden, Utah and Green River, Wyoming (176 miles/283 km) was reduced to 0.82%, the tonnage rating climbed to 5,360 tons (4,873 tonnes). At 45 mph (72.5 km/h), these engines developed 6,000 drawbar horsepower (4,476 kW). Among their many abilities was the flexibility to move around curves of 20 deg.
Okay, this is really bugging me. Does Big Boy 4014 really have 3 tenders?
Not exactly. The two yellow cars are actually giant water cars. They carry additional water so they don't have to water up the tender constantly if I understand it correctly.
Water cars, tenders, they're the same thing to me, water tenders. But Why are there two water cars? Isn't one enough?
@@AutismTakesOn Don't know for sure. It might be because 4014 (and in years past, 3985) use a lot more water on long trips than 844. 3985 is shown pulling two in many pictures of its trips.
Oh, thanks, Hawkeye Ten. You're a credit to TH-cam, really.
The two extra tenders are since none of the water tanks that used to be on this route are there anymore this means that they
need to carry their water so they don't have to stop often to get the tender filled. When they get to the final stop of the day they re-water all the tenders with a fire hydrant near to where they are.
Can the big boy pull more than the diesel locomotive that was assisting it
Yeah it can pull about twice the diesel
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions but how come UP won't test how much the big boy can pull, I heard it can pull a train 5 miles long on level track
@@zethmoreland2017 The reason they aren't pulling a longer train yet is because they are still testing the big boy and making sure it functions properly. I'm sure once they are confident in the big boy's ability they will pull a longer train
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions And open up the throttle more, too.
No. An ES44AC is rated at 183,000 pounds-force starting tractive effort and 166,000 pounds-force continuous tractive effort whereas the Big Boy is rated at just over 135,000 pounds-force tractive effort. Modern diesel locomotives have much better performance than any steamer.
Why is there hopper cars
Ryan Kranz the hopper cars are for braking requirements
Unfortunately the flooding will halt Big Boy until further notice.
Hopefully they can get the trackway fixed. I remember during the Golden Spike westbound run they were stopped for a couple of days by track repair work ongoing. Good to see they're staying safe with that flood stuff.
Because of the rain.
yeah i heard that to it's too bad
@@ColoradoRailroadProductions Definitely better to be safe though. The tour is still on, just a few days late now. Absolutely the right decision.
yeah I also agree with their decision
UP 9014...40 cigarettes per day, cough cough every picture SMOKE, UP 844 is a vaper in comparison
my friends idea on the diesel and what its saying i hate this job i hate this pushing job lol
More like braking job.. It's on there for dynamic braking control to keep the train managed better.
get rid of that bloody diesel