How Canada Could End
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- Three scenarios about the end of Canada. Could the country split apart? Fall into tyranny? Join the United States? Let's discuss!
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man your non politics videos are getting spread crazy. talking to a random person on an unrelated discord server, the first thing he asked when i said i was canadian was "do you watch jj?" also from working in a grocery store, i quite literally have people recommend your videos to me or to a customer in my line/serving once every month or two. and i never hear people recommending other youtubers by word of mouth. Your content has never felt stale, never imagined id see you talking about a whatifalthist video!
1 million is coming soon. Quite happy for JJ. Quality, well thought out content
Its well deserved. Im american and never knew how interesting canada could be
You know what I think? It's because of the impeccable hairstyles. A hair guru for our times.
Just such great videos. Very charismatic with some great editing. I love all the little drawings too. A nice touch.
@@progrockmorelikefrogc0ck157 you've gotta go get slammed in Quebec City or Montreal, Canada if great except when you forget some of the coins are worth like multiple dollars
I didn’t realize the Handmaid’s Tale author was Canadian. Imagine if an American wrote a book about Canada falling into some dystopian postmodernist anarchy and frightened Canadians fleeing to Michigan lol
I knew it was Canadian but didn't realise it sees the US as a dystopia and Canada as the saving grace of the continent. It's been that before in real life (with slavery) but that doesn't stop me thinking it's extremely cringy coming from a Canadian writer in the modern context
@@konstantinopoulos33 well which of the two countries has always had religious extremist, it's currently and has always been the US.
It seems stereotypical that the author is Canadian.
Some conservative author could write it and it would be a staple of left wing commentary channels for years.
who would have thought that the candian author would make canada the good guys and saviors of north america.
0:55 (Scenario #1: Separatism)
17:05 (Scenario # 2: Tyranny)
20:20 (Scenario # 3: Statehood)
Thank you.
@@cringy7-year-old5 no problem.
We had some Canadian citizens who joined the US Army when I was in Germany many years ago when I asked them why they had joined the US Army their answer was "because there was nothing to do in Canada." I suspect that situation still exists today in the US Army.
Not really because you can't get a visa to join the US military anymore. So unless you're aboriginal, married to an American, or a dual citizen, you're out of luck.
I'm Canadian and have never found our politics all that interesting, but man your videos just hook me and teach me a lot of what issues are present right under my nose. Thank you for your work!
It’s what I’m here for!
@@JJMcCullough Honestly doing the lord's work over hear man. It's kind of saddening how much fellow citizen are bored with national politics... We get soooo screwed over by this in a democracy... people get vote baited hard... :'(
I like your perspective as a "francophone de souche", we don't get much national coverage in my province aside from when we need some handouts or get bent over a bit too hard by Ottawa, lol. (Always assumed it was kind of the same in other territories, our federation is so effed!)
Politics are not interesting when politicians do good and thus kept out of the news and also when they do bad because it is kept out of the public eye until it's too late to overturn a bad law and policy. Political parties and nefarious parties (no pun intended) play the long game, sometimes toward a goal decades or centuries from now.
Politics are only interesting in Canada now because we have a CCP dictator in power.
I honestly don't know how I started watching JJ. I'm from texas, and as much as i would love to leave this god awful heat and go to a different yet similar country, I've never gone out of my way to look up facts or history about Canada. Now I look forward to JJ's videos, and thoroughly enjoy them all. He's just a little awkward, but a whole lot of informative and entertaining. Plus great editing. seriously, fantastic editing and greatly researched and well thought out videos. Keep it goin JJ, it somehow works amazingly.
We could trade places, I'm trying to escape this awful cold and ice.
i’m very similar to this
@@VileStorms texas heat (which was like 110 yesterday lol) is unbeatable unless you have a pool in your backyard
As a Canadian I hate Canada, glad I live in Australia
Lmao don’t pretend like you want to leave Texas, or even the US
The prospect of statehood is honestly more palatable than the route the country is headed
As an American I love being subscribed to your channel to hear opinions from another perspective and gain insights into Canadian culture. I’m a huge fan of yours JJ
Proposed Canadian Statehood: ✅
Made fun of the Quebecois: ✅
Slandered the Green Party: ✅
Ticked all the boxes, this is a J. J. McCullough certified classic.
Based
Don’t forget about the false claims about the “mass graves”.
I didn't even notice the green party slander. I thought he was just talking as a sane person should.
Addressed the simple fact that his videos are award winning ✅
@@kylevernon Not very aware of things huh?
Speaking as an American I look forward to Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba becoming our 51st, 52nd, and 53rd states.
Puerto Rico, Guam & Washington, DC be like : Wait a damn minute. that's our title! 🤔🙄🤨
Nah, you should take care of those purposefully unincorporated territories, that your previous governments wanted to conquer but not integrate. Give statehood to Puerto Rico, Guam, DC, American Samoa, the Marianas and the US Virgin Islands.
@@georgedoty-williams2085 You said it yourself, they are purposefully unincorporated, so no. You could make an argument for Puerto Rico, but most territories simply don't warrant Statehood.
You can't have our best provinces until you get rid of California and clean up your Northeast.
If Alberta, Saskatchewan & Manitoba will be come US states,
Why not, every countries in this planet as well
Led by American governors with origins fron the place they're leading
(e.g. Japanese American, Germany American, African-American, etc)
Donald J. Trump will be the supreme leader of every human beings
All their military, education, business, etc will be under US departments & institutions
Every continent you go, you're still stepping in American soil, every human beings will sing the star spangled banner & say the pledge of allegiance
Now that's the ultimate desire of every pure American patriot
US-Canada merger is a fascinating topic. One thing I can't decide is which version would be more likely: Canada joining as 1 US state or each province joining individually. The latter would give Canadians more power in the US system due to the Senate, but would erase the very idea of Canada as anything but a historical region. The former would preserve Canada as a unified entity, but would badly limit its power in the Senate (only 2 per state) and the provinces would lose most of their political relevance. Of course some hybrid arrangement is possible, but there are too many options to explore.
personally i think at least ontario would break into multiple states. minimum of two. other provinces may as well. its been discussed even within canada.
@@ChuckADickiner New York would probably encourage an Ontario split, to avoid having such a large and populous neighbor competing in its own back yard. On the other hand, the US as a whole would probably want a direct porting of Canadian provinces to minimize transition costs.
@@dudermcdudeface3674 new York would probably want that, but it's unlikely that if canada did go the state route Ontario likely won't be happy to remain connected. Ontario is roughly the size of Texas, but it is much more divided. Especially in Toronto/Ottawa vs the rest of the province. It would be more blue than New York, the rest of the province would likely revolt if their only chance of getting a voice was taken away.
@@ChuckADickiner Probably some compromise would happen. One biggish state and 2 small ones from the one province; not so big to threaten New York's power, and not so many smalls to dilute the power of rural New England.
@@ChuckADickiner yeah no, a few million is a good size for a state
As an Albertan, I feel safe to say that if Quebec did end up separating, it could start a domino effect of Canada's breakup as Alberta would likely follow second.
A lot of the farmers around here would say, "If Canada was a Cow, the west side does all the feeding while the east gets all the milk." Sure the city folks may have improvements, but the areas outside them have different opinions. Small towns are slowly becoming ghost towns as store buildings are put up for sale and people move away to find new work. Farmers are losing thrice money they make due to the 'taxes' that were demanded. Thats where a bunch of the Conservative politicians, truckers, oil workers, and especially the protesters are truly from. For years they have dealt with that frustration of getting robbed as they try to self sustain themselves with ridiculous taxes.
When Stephen Harper was PM, he was giving them that chance to build and grow their communities, and as the years passed they were developing.
When Justin Trudeau was first elected, Alberta knew that it was the beginning of the end as his 'carbon tax' has literally squeezed the life out of rural areas. And after years of frustration with unemployment and poverty growing, they are starting to have enough with the new lines of bills planned which pretty much targets their whole livelyhoods left and right. They REALLY hate what Justin has done to the province to the point where he is on billboards and photo painted on windows dressed as Castro.
Now as far as the idea of Canada becoming under dictatorship, that will be difficult as there is still A LOT of open land that they would need a lot of numbers to spread out, having plenty of places where any rebels could set up and combat against it. That in turn, would likely draw out a long civil war within. With how Albertans are against the idea of Tyranny in their protests, they will definetly put up a fight where the Authoritarians would classify Alberta as a rebel province. Even if they end up winning, it would be a drawn out civil war.
Anyway, thought I'd share that bit of extra information as someone whose observed it over the years and may be able to give a little bit of insight on why there's THAT much anger by the many Albertans towards our current PM.
Are you saying Alberta would become independent all together, join Quebec as a new country, or try to join the US? I do hope your area improves regardless.
The general lack of provincial freedom is a big cause for the current stress between the people and the government. The west does not want the same specific laws and taxes as the other provinces do and yet due to the current way the system is, we have to simply go along with whatever they want as their way of life is pushed onto us even with our protests that it is unsustainable and will lead to an eventual collapse.
The rural west and urban east are fundamentally different and being forced to act the same all while the west funds and feeds the east while earning next to nothing for it is a recipe for disaster. What with the recent events (Oct 2023) many Canadians are growing more worried for their freedom and tensions grow even more. If things stay on the current course then we can test to see if JJ was correct.
TLDR: The west (Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba) has had enough with Ottawa's shit and many people are genuinely considering leaving the country at this point ( \Oct 2023)
@@fluppet2350 Are taxes not divided into Federal tax, then State/Province Tax, like the US has Federal and State Taxes?
@@GrimReaperNegi they are but the only real difference is the amount you have to pay. (By the way the brackets are insane) most people start out in the western provinces paying ~25%
Most provinces have to give large sums to Ontario and Quebec too
By the recent events in Oct is this referring to something domestic-centered, or Oct 7 and what came after over there and out here? @@fluppet2350
Hey JJ, Newfoundlander here! Massive thing with me and my friends that is never spoken about by people outside of NL is the overall mismanagement of newfoundland since out totally not rigged referendum to join Canada is the fact that the Canadian Government has literally ignored our plentiful resources and overall strategic area for the fact that we were illegally annexed just to prevent us possibly joining the United States.
I mean i doubt newfoundland woudlve just been allowed to join the US, simply because canada is still at least within the commonwealth and thus the sphere of influence of britain. US on the other hand is fully seperate.
@@glowner7878 that’s irrelevant. NFLD could have gone independent and then joined the US.
@@technolibertarian8817 hence why it makes more sense for britain to hand it to canada
Smallwood would have disagreed. He spearheaded the union of Newfoundland with Canada.
i highly doubt canada will join the USA peacefully. the US would have to threaten canada in some way to get canada annexed into a territory or state. countries that make their nation unique will stay independent until military intervention
I say this as a Quebecer, every province should try and milk as much as they can out of the Canadian constitution in terms of autonomy.
Wouldn't that just end up with ever province bickering with each other and voting purely on partisan lines? It would just be national gridlock like south of the border and gridlock means nothing changes which leads to national conservatism and eventually ossification.
@@ElGrandoCaymano Maybe. Also French-Canadian minorities in other provinces were typically federalist in outlook since they considered the federal government the protector of their language rights.
@@ElGrandoCaymano I mean are you seriously arguing its not already like that ?
I think a union between the USA and Canada could be in the economic interest of both parties. I do wonder if an American version of the E.U. would be preferable (pragmatically) to Canada joining the United States. Both parties could retain their own national identity but the system would allow for greater cooperation and integration.
As an Albertan, I can tell you that the odds of that are very slim. Alberta’s representatives have been advocating for things like that for years now, but the socialist British Columbia and liberal Ontario have too much left-leaning nationalism and pride to approve equal economic unions with the US. (The comment above is certainly one of those nationalists).
And British Columbia and Ontario have almost 50% of the political power. As things stand now, the only way that any non-socialist policies get passed is by Alberta (Canada’s biggest conservative state) forming an alliance with Quebec (who simply hate Ontario and want it to stay out its business), alongside Conservative votes from Saskatchewan and Manitoba to JUST gain enough political backing. Quebec has its own form of nationalism though, so there’d need to be something substantial in it for them to be willing to agree to it.
@@emeraldfinder5 In the case of Albertas current fight, Quebec may help them just so they can later try to declare independence as well, they have been trying to decades now.
Canzuk or Anglophone that what most likely to happen
*cough* NAFTA *cough*
you think the rednecks would ever stand anything of the sort?
Thank you for your insights. I hope the more extreme of them do not come to pass. As a U.S. citizen I can appreciate a lot of the possibilities you propose. Here is hoping both the U.S. and Canada continue to progress toward a future focused on Liberty, Fraternity, and Egalitarianism.
Your last three ideological ideas are already an American view of things - which I appreciate, but most Canadians won't.
@@shrekmeharder6983we are facing rising right wing authoritarianism in this country. I’ve considered fleeing to Canada a few times.
@@ZI66640 Your right-wing party wants less government control, where as your left-wing wants more. That is left wing authoritarianism, which is what Canada has. If you're worried about authoritarianism America is much better off. If you just don't like right-wing ideas or liberty and freedom then go to Canada.
@@shrekmeharder6983 so the Jan 6 thing was Freedom on display?
@@rishavkumar1250 Freedom comes from less government abuse, power and corruption.
JJ ur helping fuel a newfound interest in canadian history and politics (as a canadian myself in ottawa) maybe its just one of my adhd fixations but either way, thank you for the interesting and informative videos :)
I’m not even Canadian and it’s interesting
I always watch him. My sister sends me a pic of him when i get to hyoer
@@tylerdruskoff9689 same
woah I’m also from Ottawa and have a canada adhd fixation
Hey JJ, I just want to let you know how much I appreciate your videos and I watch them everyday. Thank you for everything you do and you are one of my favorite TH-camrs!
Preach!
Every day! Wow!!
Hey JJ - I appreciate how you presnet ideas about possibilities as hypotheses rather than as conspiracies, telling folks who might otherwise be too prone to believe one thing or another, hat the future is fluid and subject to many variables.
Soo for anyone unfamiliar, the reason the US has 2 layers of government is because the 10th amendment that states anything not explicitly enumerated to the federal government in the constitution is the states' jurisdiction.
It should mean the states and federal government are doing different things, but naturally the federal government has decided *literally everything* falls under the interstate commerce clause because money.
I live in southeast Michigan, USA and we have a lot of Canadians and relations with them here. Even we think of Quebec as the other Canadians. I find this hilarious because in school we usually learn the Quebec dialect of French and not the European version.
What do you use for a language text?
@@RichardAuletta I honestly don't remember the text book title. But the main difference between Euro French and French Canadian dialect is that Canadians create French words for one things. The Euro style tends to adopt words from the original language and frenchize it. Both claim is keeping the language pure. I'm sure there's more differences but I never got far because some teachers try to teach Euro French while the text book is almost always French Canadian.
@@RichardAuletta I don't recall having any language specific texts....BUt yes in American schools and culture we consider French Canadians to speak a different dialect than the French
i sometimes get canadian tourism ads on tv, i guess thats just how close michigan is considered to canada
@@fourviet522 yep. My favorite radio station is a Windsor station. If you talk to older people they'll tell you how trips across the border were once in different than driving over a state line. There are even towns that are on both side of the border out west.
I'm curious how you might see Canada translated into states. Would the provinces just become large states on their own; would they be split up into smaller states, etc.? What do you think?
They would just become states with their present borders. Although maybe the Maritimes would have to merge.
@@JJMcCullough PEI would definitely not survive into statehood
Their populations are to low to split up
I think most would probably stay the same, but maybe Novia Scotia and Prince Edward would be merged into other new "states". Maybe not though, Rhode Island and Connecticut exist, and they are tiny?
@@donnieharper1359 Connecticut and Rhode Island are some of the oldest states, which is why they're so tiny.
One common problem I see across the board in the media when it comes to characterizing statistical information is particularly on display here.
While I find your videos very enlightening and thoughtful on the whole, you've unintentionally illustrated a flaw in thinking that I think most people fall prey to when trying to characterize statistics that fall in the range of about 10-25%. Within the space of a few minutes, you characterize the less than 20% province-primary identification as--I believe the term you used was "minuscule" while in nearly the same breath you use the 25% federal funding for healthcare as evidence that Canada's system is in fact rather centralized, and then reverse again, dismissing separatist sentiments as being "in the 20s at best".
People simply don't know how to think about these numbers, leading often to self-serving conclusions depending upon the position the presenter takes with respect to the thing being measured. A better way to think about these statistics is that numbers in this range should be considered more along the lines of "significant" or "noteworthy". To illustrate the importance of what might appear trivial, I'll cite an example I ran across many years ago: An article, the thrust of which was, "a study finds that only 16% of people have changed their minds as a result of Facebook arguments, so don't bother arguing on Facebook". But this gets it altogether backwards. A 16-point change in opinion, presumably over the span of the existence of Facebook, which was about a decade at the time... That is *very* significant change. That's a 32-point swing in opinions over the last 20 years. Now, we don't know what respondents changed their minds about or how many different things they changed their minds about. But if, for example, they changed their minds about gay marriage or marijuana legalization, then that's enough to account for the dramatic shift we've seen in the culture over that time period.
Think about that; Facebook arguments alone could account for the *entire* shift in public opinion and consequently, public policy on these matters. Conversely, if minds were changed about, say, the use of violence to achieve political ends, then we could have an explanation for the dark turn American conservatism has taken of late. So, that 16% number could explain either of those trends, or *both* (if different people changed their minds on multiple issues), and possibly much more. Long story short, don't underestimate numbers in the teens and low 20s, because the more important question is which direction those changes are moving (props for throwing in an "and shrinking" to your commentary), and how fast.
That’s a really good series of points you brought up, thank you. JJ is an opinion writer, so his points have to be taken with a grain of salt. I took a poli sci course in university last year and we had a lecture on Canadian federalism and my prof’s main point was that it is quite decentralized, simply because of the breadth of provincial jurisdiction on things like labour laws and business regulation, in addition to requiring 2/3 of provinces to consent to any new social spending programs as strong evidence of a decentralized federation. This is, imo evidence of the exact opposite of the claim jj was making. Further, having ~25% of funding for healthcare isn’t really that much. 3 out of every 4 dollars are still coming from the provinces, and since most provinces (except the maritimes and Quebec) are largely self-sufficient, this would allow them to forgo federal funding if they so chose. They just choose to accept federal dollars, as it allows them to spend their money elsewhere. Criminal law is an important jurisdiction, but I wouldn’t place as much emphasis on it as JJ does. I would argue that the administration of social services and the regulation of business and commerce is an equally powerful jurisdiction. During the COVID-19 pandemic, it was the provinces who were most active in announcing new restrictions giving directions to the public and businesses on what they could and could not do. They feds were largely nowhere to be seen, with the exception of handing out relief cheques. From what I know from talking to people, they looked to their provincial capitals and governments for direction, and not so much to the federal government. This, I think is evidence of people seeing the provincial government as the more important government in their day-to-day life and not the feds, which I would point as evidence of both decentralization and provincial identity, both in contrast to JJ’s points.
The American left is more violent then the American right
a little off topic but some small %'s matter, it's said that 6% of people in America are activist far left, but they run Hollywood, Disney, Schools, it's to the point where defending pedos is nearly mainstream with how schools are pushing stuff on kids, in 2020 a lot of cities were effectively destroyed in America, and police defunded due to 6% of people using violence for political ends. IT really just depends on what side the current government is on, in America, the FBI is doing more to go after Elon Musk then they did for Epstien, FTX or many other awful things because they've been politicized..
The amount of people arguing on Facebook/Twitter is a tiny minority of people. You've got Internet-dreamy-eyes.
@@matthewgasparin7000 Good points all. As an American, I'll choose to bow out of interpreting Canadian public opinion, and simply reiterate my commendation of JJ on his overall very thoughtful commentary, even when his opinions may diverge from my own, and even if he sometimes falls prey to the same errors we all fall prey to.
I could definitely see Canada and the US forming a union similar to that of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. They are separate countries, but they are still in a larger overall union.
If Canada fell into tyranny, Canada would face sanctions and the U.S. would cut the country in half. The government would fall and the would be a form of annexation. I'm pretty sure Washington has a plan worked out. I'm sure our P.M. has had a warning in private already.
When Kweebek tries for another referendum then Alberta will put their hat in
No interest in this at all. The provinces want a stronger federal government, not a weaker one.
@@JJMcCulloughHECK YEAH, we are NOT Americans and never will be 💪
@@jimjimmers8571 yes we are.
Very interesting to see your take on the same topic as my video. There were a lot of good points I hadn't thought of, and a lot of this stuff I honestly didn't know since I'm not a Canada expert. Alternately, since you helped me write the other video this seems almost like your ability to propose the opposing argument haha. The day of the rake will come....or maybe not.
Awesome to see one of my favorite TH-camrs here. Could you make a video on pre-Colombian American civilizations? I would really want to know more. Thanks for helping me know more about the world.
you're such a shady character, many of your opinions are nasty
Nice.
Well yeah, maybe don't make a video about something you know nothing about without proper research. You implement a lot of your own right wing biases into your videos, which is obviously not a good thing.
@@theblackswordsman9951 it's pretty obnoxious when he states his opinion as fact
JJ: This was a great, researched video about this topic. I really appreciated the pragmatic, and didn’t take such a dystopian view of the future. 👏
Back around the time of the fall of the Soviet Union and the separatist movement in Quebec I remember my sister-in-law saying how growing up we could never imagine Germany becoming one country and Canada becoming two. Thanks for your videos.
It's just great to see such thoughtful videos make it on TH-cam
I don't think you'll see Canada & the US just up and agree to be one country out of nowhere. It would be precipitated by agreements similar to the EU with a single border & currency, etc. You would be able to see it coming from a mile away
As a non seperatist french canadian who lived outside of Quebec I always had difficulty defining what Canadian culture was. I think that is in great part because culture is tied to language and the 30 million anglo canadians are surrounded by 330 million Anglos from the US. The sheer force of American culture has a deeper penetration in English Canada has it gas in Quebec. Quebec still outputs more movies and music than all the rest of Canada combined and a lot of our shared culture is based around this. This is quickly disappearing and I doubt there will be much seperatism in Quebec 50 years from now.
Canadian culture is American culture. It’s not that hard.
@@JJMcCulloughCanadian culture is NOT American culture. I don't know where you got that idea.
Canada is a culture of dignity, integrity, and honor. We are a peaceful people but when called to war we are terrifying. We are what the U.S.A. wishes it could be. A country that actually has its head on it shoulders and doesn't have a massive perversion of all pillars of our society.
@@randomassname445 I don’t think you have a very deep understanding of what culture is.
The culture of the two countries are nearly, virtually identical to each other, so there’s that.
@@randomassname445 if this were any more exaggeratedly idealistic and naive, I would be convinced it was a sarcastic commentary on laughably stereotypical Canadian attitudes and cultural myths. I'm still not 100% sure - the sheer platitude and conceit of these sentiments strains belief. Also, JJ was being somewhat facetious, there's absolutely no way he believes that Canadian culture is exactly identical to and 100% dependent on American culture.
The formation of city-states is an idea worth looking at. The The urban places exert way to much power because of their greater voting numbers. Happens in almost all states in the USA, and is especially evident in California. The "urban coastal elites" don't give a damn about the treasures of the huge agricultural areas, as long as they can get things at the supermarket and water their lawns.
I have a feeling, after Quebec leaves, the middle provinces may begin drifting towards the idea of buying into becoming a U.S state. It might take more decades, but I think it's a probability.
The best way to get rid of Quebec is to accuse it daily of all the ills from which Canada suffers. Also, treating Quebecers as racist, xenophobic, stubborn, attached to their French language and culture by legislating on the matter (Law 96), considering themselves as secular to the detriment of religious minorities (Law 21), preferring to export their products and services to Americans and Europeans, rather than their Canadian brothers, refuse to allow Alberta oil to pass through a pipeline on its territory. In other words, Canada, let's deliver ourselves to Quebec bashing and sooner or later, Quebec will slam the door and finally declare itself independent and lead its own destiny, for better or for worse. Good luck Quebec, good riddance!
Never gonna happen. Canada will invade Quebec before that happens.
JJ! Could you do a video on the ‘American Sports Canon’ (football, baseball, basketball) and why those are so popular here in the US and maybe why other countries have different ‘sports canons’ like cricket, rugby, and soccer? I have always wondered this and I know you’re the guy to ask! Love your videos, keep up the great work!!
Planning on it
Brains4breakfast (rip) had a great video on it
@@randommodnar7141 Truly a youtuber that was gone too soon
@@JJMcCullough Will it include the NHL and the weird dual nation identity it has?
Soccer is easy, ad revenue, Soccer has very few breaks to show commercials while a sport like baseball has one every three outs. So what is going to be shown more on ESPN.
As a Texas native, I LOVE the overexaggerated Canadian upspeak, gratuitous use of aboots, been pronounced as "bean" not ben, and the playfully passive-aggressive mentions of Canada's Elite's disdain for the US! We love Canada down here!!
I wonder how the 'bin' vs. 'been' came to be for Americans, considering they tend to pronounce words as spelled (e.g. 'foyer', not 'foyay'.
@@ALuimes Who the hell knows.. There are so many different language influences in modern US English it's unreal. Almost as many different influences as regional accents. TV & Internet changed a lot of that, but some things slipped through to become standard across the board. Here in the south pretty much all of the south "been" is two syllables, nearly a conjunction of "bean" and "bin" (long E, then a short I)
@@ALuimes An even better question is how the hell did most of the Southern US lose its English influence (no R's) when it was nearly 100% British for the longest, only to become fully rhotic.. exaggeratedly so! I know German & Spanish (and Irish expats if we're honest) had some to do with that, but not to the degree it became. That one has bugged me for years
frankly I find it a bit insulting and demeaning, but whatever, it's his character.
@@paddington1670 I can understand that. It's still fun though, same thing we do here when transplants come to Houston.. us natives put on the exaggerated drawl too, they take it serious and I have to explain no we don't sound like extremely irritating Bro Country fake Nashville drawls. But I get it, that's why I love his uber Canuck TH-cam character 😁
As a western Canadian I’d rather be free from the feds than have healthcare.
Our healthcare is trash my unborn child and mother of my kid almost died in the emergency waiting room. Didnt see anyone acting like there wS an emergency after 8 hrs of waiting.
Yup…the Constitution Act, of 1982 was the beginning of the end for Canada as we know it. Ever since, there has been more talk about Provinces not being happy with their voices being heard in Ottawa. I left in CND in 1995 due to never ending growth of socialism & Quebec voting for national independence seceding Canada. Most of the viewers don’t realize Canada almost ceased to exist as we know it today.
Well the real answer is that Canada will collapse when Rogers goes down for more than a day
Lmao
JJ being friends with whatifalthist was not something I was prepared for.
Both are conservatives?
@@domenstrmsek5625 yeah but JJ is nuanced and funny. And actually more moderate than what Americans consider conservatives to be.
@@domenstrmsek5625 No JJ is intelligent while Whatif is just very silly
An Albertans perspective:
There is no popular seperatist movement here. Firstly, many Albertans have moved here from other parts of Canada and have less of a connection to the province itself. There is growing discontent about our lot in the country (namely the carbon tax and equalization payments) but the sentiment that I have observed has been for advocacy towards Albertan issues within the Canadian system.
That being said, Ottawa has seemed deaf to our complaints as of late, and the provincial government seems more willing to show some teeth to combat federal policy. I honestly cant see anything happening without major actions taken against Alberta by the federal government, but that being said nobody likes to be ignored
I live in germany and I really like your great Videos. Great personality too.
When we talk about a U.S. - Canada merge, I feel we often omit the U.S. perspective in all this. I think it’s a tough pill to swallow even for them. They would loose some of their sovereignty if all provinces were given full statehood status. Also, I’m pretty sure the republican side of things would have its doubts in welcoming 30-40 million people who would heavily lean democrat for the vast majority. Maybe like J.J. said it makes more sense to think long term for this scenario.
Why is this even a thought though? Do Canadians as a whole lack such self esteem that they would want to join the Uunited States? (Serious Question)
I couldn’t imagine any significant portion of Americans deciding to want to join Canada (no offense) but I’m just fascinated by JJ and this underlying theme in his videos that being Canadian is somehow inadequate or at the very least something void of personal pride that wanting to join another independent culture wholeheartedly is welcomed.
Well, those people would all be up in Canada. The federal system means that their influence would be contained in their various new states. They would end up having a lot of influence by popular representation, of course, but collectively they're not much bigger than California. It would be like adding a new California, but a California split up into over a dozen states. Hardly a threat, except maybe to the balance of power in the Senate.
@@barstar888 I will give you what I think is a quick but convincing argument why Canada might not have a future. First of all, Canada is extremely similar to the US in government and culture. More than 90% of Canadians live withing 100 miles of the US and a majority live within 50. The main differences are French bilingualism, the monarchy and, as JJ explained in the video, overemphasized differences in policy between the two countries. Let's tackle all three:
1) Bilingualism - Quebec has been playing the long game, entrenchign their "right" to Francophone legal overrepresentation in the country. Quebec has also legally limited immigration, English in public and requested various concessions from the rest of the country to do so, so much so that most Canadians would actually be kind of happy if Quebec leaves. Secession is becoming popular even outside of it. Every single Anglo-Canadian that I've spoken to, whether right or left, has shown a clear stance against Quebec, in favor of it leaving in a "good riddance" sort of way, an apathey towards it and zero interest of ever learning French. It's notable that more than 80% of the country is English speaking. Quebec is also the biggest tax-drain for wealth-producing provinces like Alberta. The 1995 referendum was unbelievably close, within a point and much closer than that of 1980, where it was barely within 20 points. Since then nationalism has been on a massive rise. In all likelyhood, another referendum, that will come sooner or later, would be a clear majority in favor of leaving. The BQ haven't done it yet because they want to milk Canada further.
2) The monarchy. The monarchy is another thing that is increasingly unpopular and irrelevant. None of the parties challenge it because they are afraid of disrupting the status quo, but very few Canadians agree with the status quo and even less with that reasoning. The country's population is increasingly alienated from the monarchy and foreign institutions in the country. Canada is simply a lot "less British" and "more American" than in the past, which leads me to the next point.
3) The differences with the US are greatly exaggerated. First of all, after the monarchy is no longer recognized as legitimate, the constitution allows for a president to fill the role of the monarch, making it a semi-presidential republic where the president is head of state and prime minister is head of government, like it is in my country (Bulgaria) and much of Eastern Europe. Being a republic with a president will make it even more similar to the US. It would also require a reform of the senate, possibly making it less arbitrary and more in line with the US senate. The main things that (left-wing) Canadian nationalists claim to separate their country from the US are: gun gontrol, healthcare policies, support for the availability of abortions, trade protectionism (mainly from America) and, in recent years, compliance with COVID regulations. Trudeau, who champions all of those, has completely collapsed in the polls to under 30%, which I believe makes him the most unpopular prime minister ever in the country. His opponent, Pierre Poilievre, is beating him handedly in all polls and that's even with the PPC on the rise, rivaling the CPC. Pierre's list of proposed policy positions includes: repealing Trudeau's gun control and loosening the laws further, privatizing healthcare, at least partially to increase competition and medical innovation, repealing all pandemic measures and making them illegal for future governments to impose ever again, having a more free market economy with lower taxes and regulations, repealing trade protectionist policies and cooperating and trading increasingly with the US, etc. A Poilievre administration, which according to polls is the overwhelming likelyhood two years from now, would spit in the face of left-wing Canadian nationalism and make it more like America, including close economic cooperation, which is historically a prelude to allowing free movement, which is itself a prelude to mergers. The division between the young, tax-generating, monetarily and resource rich, conservative western provinces and the old, tax-draining, monetarily and resource poor, liberal easter provinces will continue to increase in the coming decades. The system is rigged so that the Conservatives get far less seats despite winning the popular vote, which will also get worse as the blue districts become bluer and the red districts become redder. This may make places like Alberta, Saskatchewan and even Manitoba try to play the Quebec game, given how malluable Canada's constitution is. If Quebec leaves, which I concluded is an inevitability, this will embolden them to do the same. The US federal system is set up so that states with below-average GDP per capita receive more money by the federal government than they collect and pay to it. The same is true with Canada. The main market for Alberta oild is also the US, so not having import/export taxes would be great. The praire provinces joining the US would be benefitial for both sides, just not eastern Canada. A Republican administration in the US would gladly accept three new states if they had information that they would become solid red states, giving representatives and 6 senators. Once this happens, Canada will be geographically split and economically weakened. Joining the US would be a huge economic boost for the maritime provinces and the territories, which are very poor by American standards.
EDIT: I forgot to follow up on the abortion issue, even though - or maybe because - it's not that relevant. Pierre hasn't talked about it as far as I know, but given that he was born from a teenage highschooler mom, who made the right decision even if the law allowed otherwise and peer pressure pushed otherwise, and was given up for adoption and adopted, I would assume he is thoroughly pro-life, at least on a personal level. Much like Roe v Wade, R v Morgentaler was bullshit and a massive stretch of a "constitutional" ruling, so it will likely be overturned eventually. Every conservative leader prior to O'Toole was pro-life, and younger generations are more pro-life than ever before and becoming more so with age, so needless to say this is also an area where Canada will become more like the US in over time.
Well, as a US citizen, I think a merger could also mean compromise on both sides - it wouldn't necessarily have to mean Canadians would be forced to join a rigidly unchanged US. I think lots of Americans are disillusioned with the current two-party system, both of which are increasingly dominated by their more extremist elements. Many people vote for one or the other more out of more distaste for the opposition, rather than strong allegiance to the other side, and there's no third or fourth choice. I think most people in the US are moderate and reasonable, and even in the US, the trend is towards a more liberal set of values over time. I would welcome a multi-party system in the US, as I think the current two-party system is old and past its shelf life for many people, and doesn't serve to represent us well.
I think another possibility is if the US balkanizes -- either in to two parts (red/blue split) or into regional pieces. Say if Washington and Oregon (with or without California) split to become "Cascadia". Would BC be tempted to join that? Or if a "simple" US red/blue split, would some provinces jump on that?
I think it would be seen as an American thing
I think the union breaking up would probably the best thing for that nation. California and Texas can become countries.
NYC can be a city state like Singapore.
Florida and the rest of the inbred states can recreate the Confederation.
New England can remain the United States.
Everything in the middle, including Alberta, can become a free Wild West they seem to want to be. No federal government, no laws, just homesteads.
For the red and blue state stuff. Both nations are still superpowers and would probably still project power around the world. For a more extreme American balkanizing, may I recommend Matthew White’s very old Balkanized America page. Although a lot of numbers have change for example Mexico is now more populated than the rump United States, California and not the south is the 2nd largest economy and in general more people have moved into the south and west since the 90s.
@@Paden-k7f the red state blue state seems to be more of a urban-rural split which is also a thing in canada now.
The problem there is that even very blue states like Oregon or Washington are very red rurally - specifically Oregon. Look at a voter map of Oregon. You've got 3-4 solid blue districts in major population centers, a couple very moderately blue, and the entire rest of the state very red. Good luck subduing the sparsely populated but very well-armed and subsistent portions of a state with an unwelcome union. Separating the defined boundaries forcefully like that is a terrible idea. Just look at the Balkans you reference.
you are afraid of truth yourself but you will see that truth will smash into your face one day
This is an excellent video. All fact-focused, no bias. He is good in his delivery of the subject matter but can go around in circles sometimes. He needs to be more straight to the point, but I can understand that this is not easy with the highly complex subject matter that he is discussing.
Can we just appreciate the sunflower shirt that JJ is rocking? :) it is so wonderfully divergent with the dire subject it provides a happy escape in the midst of the chaos. Kinda like JJ :) Honestly, I think so many people are just exhausted with all of the division and corruption of politicians on all sides. There are so many things we all have in common, the quickest way to destroy that is to continue down the compartmentalization rabbit hole that we are on. It seems like we are on a tenuous slope in the US as well with talk of places like Texas seceding but to JJ's point, the downsides of that economically would be so dire that it would be tough to swallow. We of course will see as I am rarely surprised by the insanity that seems to prevail in the world today. Hang in there and Happy Saturday everyone!!
I nearly lost what is left of my mind when I saw the shirt. Its pattern is almost exactly the same as the one on my Dollar-and-a-quarter Tree sandwich plate. Found it very difficult to concentrate on the video due to this.
I'm Canadian and I have been watching your videos for a while, and honestly I love them. I am going to recommend this channel to as many people as possible, because you deserve the 1 million subscriber play button.
The idea of the USA becoming a dictatorship before Canada is so stupid, considering the Federal Govnerment of the USA is characterized by a lack of laws, while the Canadian one is characterized by having too many laws
JJ, I was very happy to hear your point about statehood and the idea of just talking about it more. I'm 20, maybe a little young for these ideas, but I genuinely feel like statehood is within my lifetime. The biggest problem I run into talking about it isn't the fact that it's not impossible (if anything it's much easier for the US and Canada to unite then any other two nations in the world), its just the fact that people don't really hear the idea thrown around.
I had a teacher in college who was from France whom I remember talking to her about life in the US. One of things she pointed out to me several times in discussing differences between the Americas and Europe was how the economies of nations in the Americas are basically intertwined like nations in Europe, yet there’s no union like in Europe. As she learned more about the histories of the US, Canada, and Mexico she pointed out that in the past many states and provinces and territories were like separate nations in unions similar to like in Europe, but then by the mid-twentieth century the different nations took different paths and became more homogeneous nationally. One of the things I remember her talking about was that Canada seemed to be a nation where the majority of natural resources come from and where companies that extract them are headquartered, Mexico seemed to be the nation where they were sent to in order to be manufactured into products and where manufacturing companies were headquartered, and then these products were then sold in all three countries by service/retail companies headquartered in the US. She pointed out that this wasn’t 100% the case, but that it was enough of a case that she couldn’t understand why the three nations were merely just trading partners and weren’t instead developing themselves into further economic union like Europe. Myself and another student at the university whom used to spend time chatting with her when she and we were free often thought maybe the difference was the Europe had gone through devastating and destructive wars and the economic and political unions forms after the second world war, along with many other things in Europe, were grounded with the mission or premise of maintaining peace on the continent of Europe whereas no such devastation or destruction had occurred in North America to cause a similar development. Even a history teacher who was very well known for being conservative pointed out that the destructive and devastating US civil war and the Mexican Revolution had led to changes within both nations that were similar to what she mentioned for Europe. However another teacher from Poland disagreed with her that Europe was somehow different from North America and she argued that there was more unionizing between the three nations, but that it wasn’t as noticeable because of both nationalistic language used by citizens in each nation and their politician as well as lack of recognized institutions viewed as representing all three nations. (To clarify this was between 1998-2002 when I was in college). Since there are moments in US history where there were various times where discussions and even attempts to add Canada and Mexico to the US have occurred, I think that the most plausible reason you cited that if Canada were going to “end” would be if it joined as part of the US somehow. The Canadians I have known tend to be Canadians first and citizens of their provinces second...much like Americans and the many Mexicans I have known. So the idea that these three nations would fall apart I think would only occur if there was a major break down on national identity and major shift towards state/province identity. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, I just think it’d take a very long time to switch that since that national identities are often rooted in abstract concepts whereas the other identity is rooted in land and people tend to move around a lot for work, etc, in each nation. I have family throughout the US in various states and territories and the idea of us being an American family is more central to our family identity that the individual state/territory identities....some of which change after living in a place for so long. I do agree that if each nation were to join each other in union there’d need to be some coming together on some issues and so any such union would require years and years of movement by all parties involved to eventually succeed in occurring and at the present there doesn’t seem to be any actual parties anywhere interested in moving in that direction. (Although it is a fun thought experiment to figure out how a government of such a union would look like: if the Canadian provinces and territories and Mexican states joined the US what the US government would look like; if the US states and territories and Mexican states joined Canada what the Canadian government would look like; if the US states and territories and Canadian provinces and territories joined Mexico what the Mexican government would look like; if the three nations joined together like the European Union what it would like either as just the three nations or each of the three nations states, territories, and provinces represented individually in an EU type government). The idea a nation could end via tyranny is definitely always an option for any nation. I like that you said technically the nation still exists while the spirit or underlying aspects of a nation them die. I find the concept of the indigenous government interesting. It’s something I’m certainly not as familiar with. To be fair until a friend of mine whose Choctaw had mentioned that technically the Choctaw Nation’s treaty with the US grants them the right to send a delegate to Congress. Something they’ve not done, but the Cherokee Nation in 2019 did elect someone...though Congress hasn’t allowed the nonvoting delegate to be seated in the US House of Representatives yet. I think Maine is the only US state that actually actively has tribal representation in its state legislature (I don’t know for certain and wasn’t even aware of it in Maine until a friend and his husband and four adopted kids recently moved back after living in Maine for several years and had mentioned it as a possible solution in Oklahoma since our current governor, who technically is a member of the Cherokee Nation, has consistently picked fights with the 39+ tribal governments in the state and caused damage between tribal governments’ and state government’s relationships...something several in the state legislature have not been keen on; the governor has also consistently picked fights with the legislature...despite the fact that his party has a supermajority in both chambers). So I’m definitely interested in hearing more about how Canada’s government is working with its tribes. It’s certainly not something I’ve heard much about. To be fair if I didn’t live in Oklahoma I don’t think I would probably know, as American, much about how the relationship between the US government and tribal governments are. I’m merely basing that on my interactions with family members from other states versus family members here. It’s possible my family in other states is an outlier in not being as aware.
Great video!
This sounds like it's all about you, spare us the monologue.
I got to say I do appreciate these videos from JJ. There’s a good sense of reality without going in any distinct direction of polarizing opinion. I’m always left with a good note to think about.
Good work man!
Thank you sir!
As a 70 year old Canadian. Ex-service member and for the last 30 years living in the Maritimes I never hear of people wanting to separate except Alberta and Sask.. I can't see us wanting to join the USA a very war-like nation that has been attacking and killing millions of people in the last 30 years. And a very corrupt Nation.
I am from Brazil. It's nice to know more about Canada legal, political structure, geography and history. I subscribed today. I met you from the shorts, by the way.
Hey JJ, I really enjoy your videos. As someone who immigrated to Canada at age 11, I sometimes feel that I've missed learning certain things about Canadian history and culture. Your videos are very informative and provide historical context to many of the current events and cultural shifts in this country.
I'm in a very similar situation, except my family moved to the US. JJ's culture videos especially have been awesome.
Hey JJ, in light of the Rogers internet outage, as well as C-11, I think this would be a good time to talk about Canada's weird chauvinism towards American companies entering the Canadian market, and how this ties into the motivations behind C-11
Wasn't it several years ago, Verizon wanted to enter the Canadian mobile market, many Canadians wanted it do the price difference in cellular plans. Ottawa and the Canada's mobile industry where against it.
It's funny how none of the political parties don't plug this obvious populist vote getting gimmick. Nobody likes the internet and mobile situation, but no politician offers an alternative. Also, in my part of North East BC, nobody likes ICBC (provincial vehicle insurance and registration authority) and Northern Health (good luck getting a doctor's appointment within two weeks).
@@dougerrohmer I anticipate they will, we've already seen Poilievre and O'Toole in the last election talk about opening the market
@@yonatanpetliar30 Yeah, trust the more populist PP picking up on it. "The elites in Ottawa" one of his favourite lines, and the Great Dumb believe that us little guys should stick to PP...
@@VersedNJ Yeah it’s pure cronyism
Excellent video because of the content and the polished video construct. I also enjoy the many topics you are able to cover. You are a tempest in a tea pot , so when you grow to big for Canada , I hope you find your way down South. You are truly one who comforts the troubled, and trouble the comfortable.
Your analysis of Canada as a centralized federation picks one of the few areas where Canada is more centralized than the United States. Canada requires more input from provinces on amendments (depending on the scope of the amendment), environmental policy, economic regulation, labour relations, and other areas. The U.S. supreme court has adopted such a broad interpretation of the commerce clause that the nation's federal government has expanded massively in size and scope, while the Canadian supreme court has a long history of defending provincial jurisdiction
Honestly Canada has a higher likelihood of dictatorship than the USA.
Despite America's political turmoil, a dictatorship there would be harder to maintain due to the intense regionalism in the US and the lack of (EDIT: historical) political consensus.
And remember the prime minister is already a much more powerful position than the President
@@bigt9745 That fact is often taken for granted by Canadians due to traditions of "good government" (source: I am one).
And a dictatorship is against everything the United States stands for
I’d say dictatorship is less likely here due to the individual power of the states. Having the government control everything is harder here than in Canada.
The primary objective of the whole American political system is to ensure no one person has too much power. This results in the US government always being in a gridlock, able to achieve very little but also ensures that no politician gets too "ambitious".
I think there's credit to be held with all of these ideas. Like in 100 years, you might see an independent Quebec bordering both American Canada and a separate anti-American Canada
Yeah but imagine the border gore.
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@@Luxembourgish you what
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Dude there is no chance a woman would go to jail for having a miscarriage! A miscarriage isn't an abortion. There's no chance a woman would go to jail for having an abortion either! Nobody has even suggested that
Isn't it interesting that when talking of the US descending into tyranny, it is spoken of in the context of right wing/fascist tyranny and not extreme left wing/Marxist tyranny, which seems to be where the US is heading right now.
Except most of America’s political instability and extreme side of politics is from right wing politically alligned people. America isn’t going left wing or marxist, that’s an anti-communist propoganda myth created by right wingers to install fear
I've actually heard some Canadians say things like free speech are "dumb American ideas." Including recently during the truckers' protest.
Fortunately that seems to be a rare minority opinion, but it is chilling to hear.
This is why I think it wouldn’t be hard for a Canadian dictatorship to use that kind of rhetoric to get broad middle class support.
These aren't inherently American ideals, it only serves as evidence of America's ignorance and lack of education.
Ideas like that didn't spawn at the birth of the USA, those ideas were based on democracies before them.
Its regionalized. I grew up in a small AB town and my friends and family from there are pro free speech and supported the truckers. I live in Edmonton now and my city circle think all conservatives are white supremisists, and the government needs more power. They see nothing wrong with the freezing of bank accounts.
there are a bunch of people that say it too. they sort of beat around the bush, but they say it
An Albertan here. I have plenty of albertans that believes Alberta would be better off as independent or as a US Protectorate. So far from the Albertans I have asked, 65% of them would rather see Alberta stray further away from Ottawa and the Trudeau government. 20% doesn't care, and the rest opposes. There are plenty of liberal minded Albertans but most of them either move to BC or Ontario or changed political beliefs. The younger population are either full on right wing or apolitical. I'm sure there is someone here that will disagree but that is my perspective and as a born and raised Albertan.
I would say the fall of Canada is more cultural than political at it's core. Social Media, Biased education systems and General virtue signalling has stripped us from our true cultural identity. There was a time where being a proud Canadian was an acceptable identity, but it has now morphed into a question of your social beliefs first and foremost. Even as little as 20 years ago, various political opinions were so much more accepted, no one cared if your thoughts were liberal or conservative in nature, but everyone agreed on Canada being a great country, with qualities outnumbering it's flaws. Today, the consensus is Canada is Bad, for one reason or another. The left wielding the power, and the right being the loudest. Gone are the days where Canada could be considered a tolerant place, and we have now shifted to a country where you must pick a side and a hill to die on culturally, and politically.
Why is a US/Canada merge so taboo to talk about? I get that losing the identity of your country in favor of another is looked down on (I'd feel the same way) but it should still be worth a discussion. The difference between a province and a state is a very interesting topic.
Im going tl say, its vecause we kicked the Yankees ass, in 1812. Shows Canada sided with the wrong Nation during the war?
@shado7418 So, is that the social reason the topic is so taboo? The war of 1812 isn't really relevant in this day in age, a lot like how the American Revolution isn't relevant anymore.
The US as well as Canada are completely different come 2 centuries after this war. The US has become a global superpower. A merge might actually benefit Canadians and give their Provinces more autonomy than the Canadian government currently does. However, I would advise still calling them Canadian Provinces to maintain a Canadian identity.
So, in theory, they would act as states but with more autonomy as they'd be somewhat considered American territories with all the benefits of being a state. That, plus our economy/infrastructure and military protection, it might be a huge positive.
Hang around some Americans, as a Canadian, if they have any military experience, they get defensive about it, because we burnt the White House down and the went back to Canada.
I think literal annexation of Canada into the USA would not be ideal. I do support the idea of a Canadian-US open border and trade treaty like the EU
Like a carbon copy of the EU Schengen Area single visa zone
Neither is a viable possibility. In order to be considered in the USA union, it would take a congressional motion and then vote to be included. Cannot see that happening in 5 lifetimes. As for an open trade agreement, NAFTA was just renegotiated and it was very tumultuous and favoured US polices. How is that good for Canadian companies? USA is "America First!" - does not lend well to fair and open trade.
Honestly idk. As an american and not a canadian i think that if our countries were facing a bigger threat id like to see it happen. You know we are both big players in the world, neighbors, and defenders of our peoples freedoms and if threatened a unity wouldnt be a bad defensive strat. It beats the dictatorship route dont you agree?
Well, there was NAFTA. Thanks Trump
Or like how it was pre-September 11th?
This video is ridiculously well thought out and meditated upon. Great job
Canada uses Newcomers to pay pensions of old Europeans through tax
Great job! JJ you gave me a whole new insight on this subject. Canada is far from falling, the patriotic middle class mindset increasing from greater urbanization is a point that I never considered and just accurate. You obviously did your research
Way back in my highschool/early 20s libertarian days I thought it wouldn't been interesting if both the U.S. and Canada abolished their respective federal governments and joined together in a confederation of the states, provinces, and territories. I no longer agree with this for several reasons, but I guess it could make for an interesting alternate history scenario.
I would love to see the us/Canada join forces but I don’t see the Canadians getting past the second amendment and the Americans getting passed the high taxes required for universal healthcare. It’s a shame because we are damn. Near the same county but so different at the same tiMe.
@@hershellumiere In this scenario, I'd imagine both of those issues would get sorted at the State/Province level. California would gleefully leap at a single-payer health system and Canadian style gun laws. Whereas Alberta would probably be quite happy to emulate Montana. I suppose it depends on how strong the new central Federal government would be. If it happened at all I'd imagine it'd either be quite loose or VERY strict.
@@hershellumiere well as far as I know candada Healthcare is handled a provincial level. There's nothing stopping them from continuing under the US but yes they'd have the accept the bill of rights. Also less representation than they get now
I ran a sci-fi themed table top roleplaying campaign that was set about a century from now. In that time, Canada, the US and Mexico became so close culturally and economically that they just eliminated the national borders and became a union of all the federation composed of all the individual states and provinces of their former countries.
@@Distress. actually it would be more representation than it is now because of the US senate
As an Albertan who's moved to England this year- either your accent is super thick or it's just been that long since I've heard a Canadian accent😅 I'm a new subscriber and it's definitely nice to hear your take on things going on back home. And as an Albertan from a conservative family, I completely understand the Alberta separate mentally but think it's far from reality.
I've been saying for around a decade now that Canada won't exist by 2050, at least not as we know it.
You're legit my favorite Canadian TH-camr I could listen to you talk for hours
As a new salt and pepper hair sporter, I'm glad JJ is on the team. Wear it proud my friend
As a born and raised albertian I can confirm me and all my buddy's would jump at the opportunity to leave. Mainly because we know how good it can be on the other side
Brilliant presentation, and essentially unbiased as well.
I think your take on the preconditions for a US-Canada merger is spot-on. Still, I recall bringing up similar polling results about the willingness of Canadians to join the Union (they were even higher in the 1990s I believe) to other Americans and they’re always astounded. It’s definitely an idea far outside our Overton Window for the last few decades.
The only way I would be ok with merging with the states is if both countries cease to exist, and a new one is created. NOT an annexation but a creation of a new country
@@initiisnovis9673🇺🇸 here- Could you imagine the giant supercontinent we’d be? Nobody would ever want to f*ck with us.
Also, Texas would never give up it’s borders, unfortunately 😂 We would still need some kind of provinces/states because it would be way too large for our government to successfully meet local needs across the whole continent
Don’t forget, the first US constitution, the Articles of Confederation, had a provision to allow Canada to join at any time
It's odd that people don't want North American Oil with all of their EPA restrictions but are fine with unregulated heavily polluting oil from other nations.
And bailing out oppresive regimes like Saudi Arabia in the process
It's not about emissions, it's never been about emissions. It's about using oil money as a political tool. If North America is energy self sufficient it doesn't prop up the countries the US effectively bribes to be our "friends".
Instability in the Middle East has global consequences. Gaddafi and Saddam were certainly not good guys but they are what prevented the refugee crisis across the mediterranean. Once they were removed you see what has happened. And that's just a drop in the bucket as far as potential western disruption goes.
North American oil is much more expensive than oil from other countries. Plus it’s really dumb to invest in new oil infrastructure considering it’s probably going to be obsolete in the near future as we shift away from fossil fuels.
@@viewer295 economies run on energy. If you purposefully make your energy more expensive you substantially disadvantage your citizens. The price China pays for their oil, and for their power is substantially less than what we pay in the US. Obviously industrial pollution is a bad thing but you need to be extremely aware of the economic disadvantage you put your fellow citizens at competing on the world stage.
China is building a tremendous number of nuclear plants, and a tremendous number of coal plants. They don't care about going green they care about what maximizes their competitive advantage. All the moral high ground in the world doesn't save you when you Western economy becomes non-competitive.
Money talks
Truly a great video. I learned a lot as an American keep up the great work love your channel.
The "Land Back" movement doesnt claim all land back; rather turning over Crown lands and paying compensation for private lands which werent properly purchased historically. All proponents of the Land Back movement explicitly state that the people who own land in Canada today are innocent third parties who acquired the property legally and through no fault of their own
The problem with using pride in being a Canadian to mean not regionalist is that for a lot of people what they think of as Canadian is probably their region.
In the US I know quite a few people who view being proud to be an American and being proud to be whatever their region is as being the same. That's why they view their political opponents from other parts of the country as not being American.
but the difference I that, apart from Quebec, Canada shares a very similar culture nationwide, because the government does not grant as much autonomy
That's an excellent, nonpartisan point! There is some crazy culture shock you get when you move cross country here, honestly more nuanced than you'd think.
@@mcbeclips7899 I have a very small sample but in my experience people in BC are closer to west coast Americans than they are to folks from Toronto.
@@robertshort9487 but those are big regional differences, compared to the difference between a place like Pennsylvania and North Carolina, which are much closer than say Vancouverans and Torontans
@@mcbeclips7899 that's my point. . .
I feel like people are too strict in how Canada will join the US. I don’t think Canada/its provinces would just become states, I feel as if they would become some sort of collaboration government that has higher autonomy than a state but is still part of America.
I feel like Canada is too different than America politically for such a sudden annexation and the collaboration government would be a good compromise.
States already have a large amount of autonomy, so it would be difficult to imagine how much more autonomous this hypothetical canada could be. US states are already allowed to have their own separate constitutions (including different governmental forms, so long as they maintain a republican structure, so Canadas parliment could remain intact), their own tax codes, criminal codes, internal economic policies, even armed forces in the form of the National Guard. The only things they share are a single foreign policy and a deference to the federal government where federal and state law conflict. Honestly that last bit isn't even 100% adhered to, as many states openly ignore federal regulations on certain things like drug regulations and border security.
It'd be closer to an EU-style confederation at first.
Maybe further integration would occur from then on but really, just relaxing the border between the two would be enough to get the mixer goin'.
I don’t really think so. I feel like American political parties are broad enough that any Canadian politician could be accepted into American politics with no issues. If anything, the different regions of Canada would just act as voter blocks in the greater elections. Hell, with the level of autonomy give to states Quebec could even fit in to a degree
Frankly, I don't think any form of union would be good for either side. I would like to see both be more open to each other economically, but that's it.
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj I would also like some kind of free movement agreement, maybe even some kind of EU for America, Canada, Liberia, Philippines and some other closely aligned countries like Japan, the UK and Australia.
This gave me a lot to ponder, cheers
Whenever i go to the USA, it's an exciting feeling. They have so so so many incredible cities and cultures. I know they have gun problems and expensive healthcare, etc. but I'm very open to living or JOINING the US.
The Fallout Game franchise gives an alternate reality where the U.S. becomes Tyrannical and eventually invade Canada do to their resources being critically needed after war on 2 fronts with Mexico and China.
Canada ended up becoming a state of sorts but not in a good way as the people were under constant surveillance to stop revolts.
We call it a Territory.
Rather than a "merger" of our nations I could easily imagine some form of union like Europe's, where nationhood is preserved on paper but a the economy is fully unified with free movement of goods and people. And if a more formal combining were in the cards, I'd imagine the US would eat up the provinces one at a time.
I'd be down more for a merge like the EU rather than become one big state. I think the idea of shared currency but own cultures and nationalism would be a more doable option
i feel like that makes formal union impossible. mexico will probably want to join, so youd get a union of at least canada, mexico and the us, which all have regional subdivisions, but a central government to control foreign affairs such as this political union, but then the political union has to grant powers to a new leader to control all of the countries before a formal union takes place. since the us federal government is already really weak, granting its power like this would basically make it non-existent other than negotiating with the new formal union.
i dont think the americans would be super happy with their political power getting diluted to the point where the states have to go through a lot of effort to elect a government whos job is to be the voice of 1/3 of a new nation, and the combining of these nations in the way the eu seemingly wants to consolidate europe would result in a disproportionate amount of power given to the combined canadians which have a lot less people, while mostly benefitting those same canadians at the same time. in europe, the power remains in the big economies while the benefits go to the smaller ones, making it a win win for all involved.
having north america divided and incorporated into the US is probably more effective and protects everyones interests way more, and gives the former canadians and mexicans a proportional voice. i dont really like the degree of autonomy of the US though and would like to see pacts and coalitions form regions which have a lot in common with each other, so most of canada and mexico will still be able to retain their collective grouping if they wish since it would be easier to make decisions at the same time. thats just personal preference though.
@@jonathanodude6660 any eu with mexico would fail Mexico isn't a ideal democracy journalists get killed there around the election time America will never have an open border with them and we already have a union withMexico and Canada
@@jonathanodude6660 The majority of Canadians and Mexicans are strongly opposed to joining the US. With the current state of the US, I would rather not live under fascism.
@@ffc1a28c7 yeah tbh I’m in the us on a holiday and I would hate to live here. I crossed over into NJ from NY and you could literally get air time in a van from how awfully maintained that highway was, plus all the infrastructure looked terribly planned. NJ was also incredibly ugly. We didn’t go into the city centre but my lord did it make me grateful I didn’t live in the us. It also hits you how impossible it is to move around without a car. The only other countries I’ve been in that are like that are Dubai and Nigeria, which are both too hot to move on foot anyways. We landed in Jamaica a couple hours ago and the difference is night and day in terms of how nice the surroundings are.
The only reason why Anglo Canadá exist is because they supported the British Monarchy while Amerucans were Repúblican, so if Anglo Canadians turn Republican, there is not difference. No need to wait until 2080; Alberta could decide to join by 2030, and Ottawa wouldnt send any troops to prevent it.
Kicking out Quebec might be a good idea. They're way different then the rest of Canada.
Now that's a great idea. Us indépendantistes would be very happy if you did that.
Amazing stuff J.J.! Have you ever considered doing a weekly/ monthly podcast talking about news or whatever else? I’m sure I’m not the only one who would be eager to listen. Or even doing lives for more casual conversation?
This is a lot of work as it is, honestly I have zero time for anything else.
I enjoy your content JJ from Maryland in the US. I could see scenarios where either both the US and Canada shatter, creating new countries between parts of both (a union between the Northeastern US and the Canadian Maritimes as an example) when people, who live in countries with people they hate, realize they have more in common with surrounding communities in the other country.
Great content! I'm really impressed you do it all on a pogo stick.
There are no national abortion laws(referred to @ 6:22), look it up.
Actually support for independence has gone from 34% to 48% between the last two elections of Trudeau. The trend continues.
What province?
@@DGoldy303 Alberta.
The t hey’re stupid.
The one big issue with Quebec are the cases of Ungava, James Bay Treaties and Eastern Townships. If Quebec moves toward independence, they would face losing some areas and boarder changes.
What specifically?
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 basically I think indigenous tribes would stay with Canada causing them to loose land also Montreal may opt out and stay around as province. I’ve heard all these would be possible in a Quebec succession
@@houseofmendoza5442 lose*
They would probably loose Gatineau-Hull, which is is super integrated into Ottawa
The Eastern Townships/Estrie region includes Anglo towns, but it's still 90% francophone.
While slightly more people in Nord-du-Quebec are able to speak English than French, significantly more have French (35%) than English (4%) as their first language, and most have neither. I assume indigenous rights are a bigger deal up there than the English vs. French thing.
if Quebec separated, lots of french speaking people and/or people of french descent would leave Canada and go to Quebec as Anglo have tried to erase the french in canada when they could.
I'd be fine with Alberta Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Quebec separating to become one country. We would let Quebec be french of course. I've only started feeling this way the last few years watching Trudeau ruin Canada and show he cares nothing about Canadians.
That's the first time I see someone thinking having the Prairies and Quebec making their own new country together would be a good idea, and I would actually like it. A little confederation together and a pipeline from alberta to here Quebec wouldn't do any harm.
It's an interesting topic, internationally Canada is always treated as a pretty stable country so the idea of it breaking up in the near future sounds kinda weird to me.
I guess Canada's approach to federation is pretty similar to what we have here in Argentina, except we don't really have any equivalent to Quebec, where the provinces are so dependant on the national government to continue functioning that they basically can't survive on their own so the preferred option is to just complain and hope to receive more cash next time. Heck, we can't even break relationships with some of our neighboring countries without shooting ourselves in the foot.
Maybe I'm too Americentric (being a USA citizen), but I definitely feel that the USA is in a much more unstable situation right now, though I definitely acknowledge that Canada isn't as stable as some may think. Not to mention several US states could realistically exist as independent countries (California's population is greater than Canada after all), whereas most Canadian provinces are extremely tiny population wise
Would be more like giant microstates if I make sense
The topic of the video isn’t “which country is most likely to break up.” I never said any scenario was likely, I’m just pondering the hows.
@@The614zeke The party platform at the State level has always been extremely populist, with extremist items getting on the TX GOP platform all the time, but rarely being enacted in Austin
You should watch some of what if videos on america i think he makes a compeling argument for why the usa is les likly too collaps in the next 100 years then canada and most european contrys.
The US isn't in an unstable equilibrium. It is just undergoing a large perturbation right now.
Excellent analysis. Canadian obedience to and dependence on Federal tyranny is a very serious problem but then again I'm American and "federal tyranny" is why we were founded, why we had a civil war and why we're about to chop DC down to size. Alberta, however, should become a problem. Government dependence is a nice way of saying Communism. It always baffles me how baked in your acceptance of government authority is. Also, Quebec will be interesting in terms of Federal money. Will the other provinces accept their money going to a foreign country?
To hear JJ say that the Quebec government now holds more power over immigration than the Feds made me explode with laughter. How misinformed can you be? Ottawa is actually flooding the Montreal area with immigrants of its own choosing, while denying entry to French-speaking immigrants. Just to push the point further: François Legault recently asked lil' Justin more powers over immigration in order to protect the french character of Quebec (the answer was, of course, NO).
I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with a WhatIfAltHist video
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