The Great VARbate: Keep it Or Scrap It? | EP 120
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- With clubs now set to vote on VAR for next year, should it be scrapped completely? What chance do Arsenal have of winning the league on the final day? Who will claim the final European places for next season?
Gary, Alan and Micah also discuss the mentality of the players and fans at Spurs after a bizarre week for the club.
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VAR isn’t the issue, the technology isn’t at fault…it’s the fact we’ve got awful officials. PGMOL and Howard Webb are embarrassing
Better training is required to make clear to refs what is a foul and what isn’t
@@internationalrtg5602100% agree. But I also think there should be better recruitment in the first place. For example, get lower league players who are retiring or have had injuries, and try and get them involved…just an idea
EXACTLY
They are, the officials have really screwed up VAR
Let me ask you one question ?
What team is it that if they win the league costs the bookies the biggest pay out
Being the favourite does not mean they have had the most money betted on them
So which team has the most gamblers place bets on them to win the league world wide ?
Once you know those figures then you realise why some teams get all the luck and others cant buy a decision
Ange was spot on! How can you hate a team more than you love your own. Tottenham fans are obsessed with Arsenal and it’s embarrassing that they wanted their own team to lose.
As Conte, Mourinho and now Ange said it shows Tottenham’s lack of ambition of the club
another bitter Arsenal fan no doubt?
@@lawrencebaker1811 Another pathetic spurs fan no doubt?
@@lawrencebaker1811 I couldn’t think of much worse than supporting Spurs or Arsenal posh boy Lawrence
@@lawrencebaker1811 problem with fans like you is that we’re all getting tarred with the same small minded brush now.
How are we going to close the gap while playing on Thursdays and Sundays. They’re getting champions league money we’re not so we will finish further behind next season. The problem with most other spurs fans is they don’t think of the bigger picture.
There’s players on that pitch who are probably unsettled wondering what type of club they’re playing for now. What players are going to sign for us. A club where the fans cheer the other team.
We are the laughing stock of the league and will be getting stick off everyone now but at least we stopped Arsenal from winning the league. Oh wait actually Villa did that, we gave them 6 points.
@@lawrencebaker1811 i am arsenal fan and want the best of suprs but thats cause you was nothing to us and been nothing to us dislike manu, chelsea and liverpool god birmingham and stoke more then you
"A laptop has opened on my left hand side" 😄
VAR just needs to adopt the TMO system and approach from Rugby ... that works very well, is open to all (as the officials are mic'd up and the audio is transmitted live) and the video review is shown in the stadium. (Remember that rugby is a much more technical game in terms of the rules and regulations vs football, yet TMO still works well). With TMO they also stop the game clock during the review so there's no need for a random assessment of stoppage time.
This is bang on and what Alan has said many times is the lawmakers themselves need to be looked at because the wording & the intricacies of the current laws are quite ridiculous. If 99% of people can recognise & agree on what is a transgression based on just 1 or 2 showings of a replay then it's hardly rocket science is it? Just simplify & clarify the laws & then better educate the referees & officials in conjunction with a TMO-style system. It would speed things up plenty compared to our current system & would still result in a much fairer game overall.
I'm surprised at Shearer in this podcast, i was expecting expletive laden rant about Gordon's penna.
VAR:
1 - needs to be shown on the big screen the same way it is in rugby union
2 - needs a 20-30 second limit, if you can't make a decision in that time it's not clear and obvious
3 - needs referee mics the same way they do in rugby
Spot on
A 20-30 second limit would ruin it. Given how long it takes them to make wrong decisions already, additional pressure would force more errors
@@mikemyers8124 My thinking behind a 30second time limit is that if there isn't an immediately clear answer then you have to stick with the on-field decision, similar to rugby where they can't always see if the ball is grounded for a try. You keep it to 30 seconds where if they're not quickly sure then you leave it. Adding a time limit would prevent howlers from the on-pitch ref and stop stupid long var reviews
And anything that is a "clear mistake" should be classed as matchmaking and some prison time for them...
Im against time limit. That would generate more problems. It would increase the mistakes dramatically with the added pressure
I really think they have to move forwards with VAR, rather than move backwards to a time before it.
Key changes that might be helpful:
1. The fans have to be made aware of what's happening via the screens in grounds and maybe even audio of the decision process, like in cricket.
2. Perhaps a set time limit to decide: if an obvious error can't be found in that time limit, then go with the on-field decision.
3. A lighter touch: offsides are automatically checked but the captain has to decide whether they want to appeal a penalty decision (and they have a limited number of appeals per game).
If it's just scrapped entirely, we likely won't get even one weekend into the new season without something contentious that VAR could have sorted out.
Having said all that, irate teams, players and fans maybe also give it too much importance: decisions can change games but the games are 90+ minutes long, after all. It's too easy to use a bad decision as the scapegoat for a sub-par performance.
Football is about emotions. Goals give us that. We can’t celebrate a goal properly. VAR is about your opinion & mine with decisions on the pitch. I might think it’s a penalty, u might not. U know what the decision is going to be when he’s goes to the monitor. Ridiculous. Me being a professional ref in the booth should be able to say to u that’s a penalty. Why do I need to send u to the monitor when I know what u r going give. Embarrassing. It just creates more headaches than ever. We don’t need it just bin. U want technology to move with the times, build some robots to ref. Nothing is going to change with our awful refs or the next bunch of 🤡 coming in
Agree with Alan on how VAR should be used. To answer Gary, clear and obvious would mean you don't need minutes of replay to see it. Should be obvious with a single playback. If it takes more than that, then it's not clear and obvious.
Defo agree with Gary here, bring in challenges made by the captain
I feel they can Remove VAR … it was better when there was human error … football is a dynamic game, var slows it down, also var has not been fool proof either…
It hardly slows it down at all though. It's like 2 decision per game..
What! it is still human error with VAR in place.
Less “human errors” with VAR.
Great football analysis team, enjoy listening
Rolling back to a time without VAR, where there will inevitably be more mistakes made by officials, is absolute madness.
Open communication so we all hear the decision making between officials like Rugby Union will improve things significantly.
There wasn't tho
Totally agree with you.
Do you not feel the fun and joy has been taken out of the goal scoring? Double celebrating or not being able to immediately celebrate?
There were mistakes with human error and now there are mistakes with the technology. Personally I’d go back to the time before
@user-nz6fu5un8v possibly yes, it's very annoying when in the ground and I've not got a clue what is happening. But the celebration when a goal against you gets ruled out is actually pretty good too. Not as good as a goal, but not far off.
in Australia the referees have mic and annouce to the stadium why they choose their decision after checking VAR
Love the podcast ❤ we need an episode every 2 days if possible or even better daily 😂
I would only allow the VAR officials to view replays at full speed.
If they can't decide on that, it's not a clear and obvious error.
This should help to speed up the process.
But sometimes horrendous tackles don’t look so bad at full speed as you can’t see what happened if there’s real speed and force. Then you see the slo mo and it’s studs into the shin.
@@daviebananas1735 That should be irrelevant. Any penalty should be determined by the potential of an action to do harm.
If it's horrendous tackle, then it should be penalised.
The offence should be that the studs were up, not that they made contact.
Gary has it spot on. Appeal system. Like Cricket. And I've seen many comments online about taking from Rugby as well, where the ref is mic'd up. And we all see it on the screen as it happens. That keeps the crowd engaged and in the know as well and makes the officials more accountable. Think PGMOL are way too afraid to mic up the refs! If it's an appeal system, how many appeals per match allowed? 2 per half?
You should just have VAR for penalties and goal line technology that's all you need it for it will make the game much more fluid. Love the podcast guys. From Justin in West Midlands, England 🏴.
Gary saying rivalry is ridiculous, but last week said he didn’t want to play for Notts Forest because he supported Leicester !!!
Bit of a difference between signing for a club and playing for them when they are a rival team and then the fans wanting to you to throw a match and miss any chance of champions league just so Arsenal don't win the league.
If Leicester needed a win for champions league but it would’ve hindered Forrest I don’t think he’d be doing the Poznan when they conceded
Not wanting to play for a particular club is different to hoping your club loses (and misses out on Europe) just to prevent another club from winning.
Keep up the good work
I agree with you gary on the var how it should be used
I would agree with Postecoglou having a go at the fans if he hadn't taken such a 'all or nothing' approach. I am delighted we got him and believe he is the man to take us forward and we should do everything to keep him where a club like Liverpool might be eyeing this situation up nicely but his methods of outcasting players who we needed when injuries hit and showing little care for cup competitions meant the league was all we had left and it was almost guaranteed 5-6th place. I have nothing against him at all except he can't expect fans to not take silver linings in a season when we lost Kane, Son missed a sitter in the game he's talking about, we had no european football but still finished out of top 4 with no tournament runs and strange decisions like substitutions or tactics etc...
All of that said, not at all slating Ange or saying anything like he should go... hell no. Best i've seen us play in years and I want more, win or lose at least give your all. I just don't agree with him saying "let fans be happy if they want but I'm not overreacting" at the start of the season and then being annoyed when those same fickle fans act a different way towards the end. Don't be so surprised when you sussed them out ages ago 😂
Nearly a whole 4 minutes without jamming a finger up your nose this week Gary, well done 🙄
Keep VAR for objective decisions like offside and goal-line tech. And use the offside system being used in Europe, which is better than having someone draw lines across a screen.
Great to hear Micah's insights into the Totts game, very cool. Only place for VAR - the bin. Human error inevitable, so why ruin major aspects of game enjoyment trying mitigate it, especially with a crappy system that makes arguably the same number of mistakes? Bonkers.
You're being blatantly dishonest if you think the only variable is the number of mistakes...
When talking about left backs for England I’m surprised no one has been mentioning a call up for Tyrick Mitchell from Palace or Alfie Doughty from Luton think they’ve probably been the better English left backs this season
Pau Torres has been a great signing by the way, not a bad shout at all.
On the Champion's league league phase, it's drawn in a way that each team plays two teams from each pot.
Is it the toenail etc offside mainly. I think a quick look at his he obviously offside or onside. But no VAR have to find a hairs width difference. Is that what's really frustrating coz it takes so long
35:52 Chelsea talk for the fans that want to hear
Legend
I’d rather have the mistakes without VAR just because it was a better product. I want to be entertained by watching football not patiently waiting whilst the games is frozen still for minutes at a time, the ref with his finger to the ear.
The cup games and championship games I’ve watched this season have been reminders of the excitement you can get in games. Goal means goal not a 5 minute water break.
Love from California
VAR killer is when a TV camera shows a clear and obvious error wrongfully given either way or ignored by VAR. It happening once would be dire for VAR, there was that one week it happened like 4 times lol...
I have been saying things Gary is saying. Keep offsides (with much thicker lines) one appeal per half. VAR is re-ref the games and is massively inconsistent. It's always human error. Allow the on field ref to make the decision wrong or right , fans can live with that.
Yes I'm biased regarding Ange. Australian. But he's saying f..K rivalry. That's an echo chamber that holds back being the best. You want to win and hold a trophy.
Well maybe he should have implemented the game plan he used against City when he had Arsenal, he showed he could do it, might be a good lesson for him
He doesn't even say fuck rivalry. But you should root against the team you pretend to support. Rivalry shouldn't come before the results of the team you supposedly support.
I have question for three of you : if you
are the manager of England then who will be your 26 players and starting 11 ...love your podcast.
Micah is starting all 26 apparently.
I’m okay with human error from the referees like how it used to be, sometimes it falls for you and sometimes not. I don’t want offside calls due to a centimetre so I would vote to scrap it tbh
Same, it's just impossible to accept human error when they watch 50 replays on a screen for 5 minutes. Human error is ok when they have to decide on a split second in a full-speed game.
27:00 This was hilarious. Shameless Shearer 😂
Will be very surprised if gareth picks a forward line of 6. More than likely to pick 6 defenders
Goal line technology is enough in my opinion. Let the onfield officials do their jobs
VAR gets a lot more right that it does wrong but with the semi automated offside it should take some of the burden off the officials to just focus on getting the correct decisions for penalties, I think there should be a time constraint on how long they can look at an incident and if they can’t find anything clear and obvious to overturn the decision then go with the decision on the pitch, I think they need to show what they’re looking at on the big screens too so the fans aren’t left in the lerch, I think that’s the main problem is the lack of communication and transparency it all seems a bit shady when they keep it away from the fans
No more VAR!
from a Football Manager (game) you can have some insight into the new champions league format. It certainly leads to some refreshing and unique match ups
Keep VAR get rid of the incompetent refs and officials.
All competitions in Europe are struggling with VAR. It is definitely not because of the quality of referees.
You guys on the PGMOL pay roll? Gary especially?
Some points that where made in the video might not work.
1. Captain appeal. Is it just the captains decision to appeal or can the team mates tell them "hey i think he was offside or i think i was fouled". As dependent on whete the captain is postioned on the field can really have an impact as it would be different from say a striker who is captain and a centre back or a goalkeeper.
2. The showing the var in the stadium. I agree the refs should be mic'd up so the fans can hear whats happening but not all stadiums still have the possibility of showing the decision e.g old trafford or anfield.
3. The clear and obvious thing i think should be down to what was said by Alan in earlier podcasts. If you cant see and error in looking at the footage in 30 seconds then the referees decision is final.
I am also in the mind of just scrapping it as most of the talks of games nowadays at least on tv is just the decisions that var got wrong if there was a bad decision in the game.
With the semi automated offsides too will that be looking at toes being offside or will that just be the clear offsides?
Also with that system what will the assistants be looking for as it seems like their work load is getting lighter.
Do you think implementing a Tennis Style appeals system would optimise VAR?? This could be where either the Manager or Captain have the right to appeal 3 times for VAR to be used by the referees. If correct, they keep 3/3 appeals, if incorrect, they lose 1/3 appeals. Thoughts??
Being saying this for ages, give the captain more of a role. 2 appeals a half,
Referees rarely make mistakes. They can miss something, but they make decisions on what they actually see and what they see is only from one angle of the play.
Linesman see the action from a different angle and this sometimes places them in a position where they see something the referee misses. Rightfully they are able to bring this to the referee's attention who can then make a decision based on the linesman's advice.
One of the worst things a referee can do in a game is try and guess what happened.
When you watch a game on TV you rarely, if ever, see the action from the same perspective as the referee. You are usually seeing the game from a high angle looking down into the action. This helps to eliminate the clutter you get when viewing the game at ground level caused by the players around the ball.
If you see something on TV that the referee missed you need consider first, where was the referee and was it likely that they could see it. Most of the time you come out saying probably not.
The next question is, considering the flow of the play did the referee put themselves in the best position to observe the play.
If the answer to these questions are no and yes, it is unreasonable to criticise the referee.
If you want to micro-analyse the TV footage of a game there will always be things that the referee missed.
VAR has helped to reduce this number, but it has impacted on the flow of the game.
They are using VAR for too many situations that it doesn't deal with well and this is the cause of many of the delays.
The question for the game's administrators and clubs around VAR is, how much they are willing to allow the flow to be impacted.
There are certain decisions that the VAR technology allows for a quick decision making process. There is little to no problem with using these.
Others are more time consuming and the technology doesn't facilitate making a prompt decision. I believe they should prioritise and limit the type of incidents in this category that they consider.
VAR will continue to develop and as the technology improves. This will enable it to handle more situations in a timely manner and those elements can be progressively introduced.
Keep it, it's crazy that we are thinking of going backwards instead of forwards.
I was at spurs villa earlier in season and Villa goal disallowed offside but took ages and some fans were saying just give the goal and get on with it - and everyone was saying ridiculous how long takes to make a simple decision
Yes Gary you’re right about var bc they won’t change much right good u interjected al ther e👍
Use VAR for what it was introduced for - clear obvious mistakes and consistency - If can’t see an error in a min the ref decision stands it’s simple - plus would make refs make decision as now they’re not making decisions in case wrong - and some var officials will look for ages at an incident while others don’t so even more inconsistency than was before
The KEY to solving VAR (if you want to keep it) is to have the VAR ref make the decision and COMPLETELY IGNORE THE ONFIELD REF. The VAR should be referred the incident with NO KNOWLEDGE of what the onfield ref decided. Otherwise human nature kicks in and they will support their onfield friend.
Exactly. If it’s CLEAR AND OBVIOUS that it’s wrong then why would they need the ref to view it again? Only major incidents like hand of god etc should be a VAR issue.
No disrespect to Gordon but its got to be Saka Foden Palmer sitting behind Kane. What an unbelievable front four!
Goal line technology works - stays
VAR with offside works - stays but needs to be improved.
One area that no one talks about is when players con the ref. Leaving a leg out to get ‘touch’, not an intention foul. Players need to stop this.
If a player does this then they should be booked. VAR does show this. The game for all the good, has lost is losing its honesty and integrity
Best option with VAR is they review the match live if they think they see a foul etc etc that's been missed they should say to the ref next time the ball Is out you need to take a look at the screen
Can we please have times stamps?
For me its simple, anything objective, like goal line technology and offsides, use technology. Anything that is subjective, leave to the on field referee, adding more eyes to something subjective just results in differing opinions anyway.
The prem: we play too much football.. let's scrap fa cup replays (even though they rarely happen)
Also the prem: but let's agree to play more games on europe.
Greed
Greed
Greed
Its the length of time it takes to get a decision that is the problem
Especially when it takes them 5 minutes and they still get it wrong.
Ange is what Spurs need.... mentality at the club needs to change
VAR is the best thing to happen to football since the invention of the ball. Some fans have forgotten how horrific it was to see weekly mistakes that cost games, trophies, World Cup Quarter Finals, relegations. There were glaring errors ALL THE TIME. VAR isn't perfect... but 95% is far better than 50%.
if we're talking about 'stats' , i saw earlier that its only a 14% increase anyway in regards to correct decisions with and without var so i don't know know where you got 50% from , Besides some of them would of been subjective anyway so it makes it even less relevant , football wasn't perfect but it was much better than now, of course refs got things wrong and of course we got angry but we got over it very quickly, it's a lot harder to Swallow when 6 people plus technology get it completely wrong!
It's also thankfully highlighted how bad it would be without it. The refs are shocking...var has highlighted a big need for improvement
@@davewood1982 Only 14% LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 That is a HUGE improvement! Thank the football gods for VAR!
VAR is just a replay.
The problem is VAR, or maybe even the match referee, actively trying to avoid difficult decisions.
As an example: Doku kicking Macallister in the chest. Post-match, Howard Web and Owen "analyze" the VAR audio, wherein they say that "both went in high" and "it hit Dokus boot first", which you can clearly see in the replay dont happen. This is an attempt of Michael Olivier to pass the blame/outrage of a difficult call, to the VAR room. And VAR was also afraid, and had to rewrite reality to justify not taking action.
I think the referees and VAR are afraid of making hard calls. They try to avoid things that impact title candidates/fan favourites, due to the fan and media frenzy that appear afterwards.
If VAR is to be fair, then the VAR operator should not know which teams or players they are judging. The players in the replay should be "cloaked" for VAR.
That's the only way to avoid biases or associated fears that the VAR operators have towards teams/players.
i think the Ref and VAR team should be question after the match on their decision
Tech like VAR isn't bad, we should adapt but the people are misusing it
Overlap done. Crouchy done now rest is football 👍🏽
Huh?
I think they should only look at fouls/penalties/red cards in real time no slow motion that will show if it clear and obvious
We need ex-players (1gk, 1 defender, 1 midfielder & 1 striker) in the room at Stockley park
As a thought experiment, could someone remove the effect of all the VAR decisions that changed a result and see what the table would have looked like?
They do it every year. Last year I think Arsenal benefited most. City were one of the least.
You do it biro
The clear and obvious error to us fans is that the refs in England are absolute gash and will never male Var worth using!
Coventry would have won the FA semi if VAR WASN'T THERE
Much as I wish they did, they wouldn’t have had the penalty without VAR.
Ask Alan if he would score against Man City if it meant Sunderland winning the title?
Joking aside, but you should definitely poach Ian Wright for the pod!
The difference with AI and VAR is there's no intelligence in the VAR Backroom! As Anthony Gordon said " Get rid or get better"!!!
VAR for offsides only. Penalty incidents can be reviewed on pitchside monitor by the referee, not VAR, to help provide better angles.
A possible solution to the "clear and obvious" issue with VAR, how about they put a time limit on it? If within 30 seconds they can't decide whether it was or wasn't the correct decision, then by default it's not clear and obvious and should therefore revert back to the original decision made by the on-field ref.
There's also an issue with football laws, they've been over complicated and this has allowed too much personal interpretation to come into play. They need to simplify the rules again and get some consistency back. There should never be an incident on a football pitch where 2 different referees can have 2 different opinions about an incident on the pitch. Nothing should be left open to interpretation when it comes to the rules, they need to be easy to understand for everyone.
i'm on the fence about VAR. it would be great if it's used correctly. what really bugs me is the offside rule. personally i think the whole body should be infront of the opponent to be considered offside, not just a toenail or kneecap. also some tackles on var look a hell of a lot worse than what they are.
Leave the Var system in place, just use the tennis "hawk eye" rule instead. Give teams 3 chances to check the Var when they ask for it.
GET RID !
For God's sake, stop scratching your nose. And now Micah is getting this habit! Best podcast, though. COYS!
Without complete transparency, VAR will continue to be controversial. I agree with my team Wolves objecting to what is going on. After all, poor decisions cost us dearly this season and have completely denied us the opportunity to qualify for any European competition. Without access to Europe clubs of our size will continue to be in a poor competitive position to attract the type of players that will give us a fair crack at consistently competing in the top half of the table.
VAR should return to a testing phase in lower league football. Keep goal line technology.
Get rid of offside and linesman, simple. Then var can do its job after the incident/goal.
People saying ‘VAR isn’t the issue’ don’t understand football
Subjective calls should never be adjudicated by VAR. If VAR goes, get rid but accept the officials decisions and don't complain endlessly about referee mistakes (that's not going to happen). If it stays put it on hiatus for a year and fix. Dismiss everyone involved in VAR from top to bottom and replace with qualified personnel, appointed by an independent panel ( intelligent people with no obvious affiliations, may include current officials). Football itself and the way it is run is probably the main problem underlying VAR issues. For example, rules not being enforced (shirt pulling, players pushing, out of control tackles to name just 3, either enforce the rules or change them. If rules can't be fairly and consistently enforced (eg handball) change the rule until it can. That's a start
TLDR, Scrap VAR or it takes a years hiatus and an acceptable fix is found.
I agree. Only the decisions that are so clearly wrong they are absurd should be judged. Hand of god etc or a player punching someone off the ball. Anything that can be debated should not be in the realm of VAR.
It needs scrapping until the technology is up to standard.
Where do you feel the technology has let us down?
@@chrishoward3391 I don’t think it has let us down persay, but I think it’s not as accurate as it can be and the whole point of VAR was being accurate with decisions. The frame rate alone isn’t high enough on the cameras used so when checking for offside the ball is elongated across 4/5 frames making it near enough impossible to know when the ball has accurately left the foot. Automated offsides will make the offside line 10x more accurate so I have no worries on that front. But the main reason I think we should wait until the technology is better is because if we implement A.I into VAR it’s going to make decisions more accurate, less opinionated and the speed at which they are being made will remove the 2/3 minute waiting time to make a decision.
appeal system is a valid shout, Gary get in that meeting, no VAR would be a disaster the referees are awful
I think we need to reverse the logic introducing it. Bring it in for a lesser prestige league/tournament and let it develop there. Once it’s at a point where it is established and clearly a positive for the game then perhaps it can be reintroduced
VAR should first been shown on the big screen in the grounds and also be able to hear what is being disgust and a time limit on how long they can take and finally have a ex pro in the var box 👍
Keep it for offsides and each team get 3 appeals for the duration of the match
VAR scrutinising every goal whether there is a clear and obvious mistake of not needs to be changed, if it's not obvious it should not get involved.😎
PGMOL is a problem but IFAB who set the rules are also at fault by making the incompetent body worse with unmanageable rules.
To pick any other backup keeper than Lunin is dumb. He has stepped in due to Courtuois’ injuries and played for almost an entire season and taken Real Madrid to the league title and champions league final.
Why don’t football players wear the gum guards that are being used in professional rugby to detect possible head injuries. If there are any warming signs from the gum guards the player is automatically removed from the field for an HIA.
Funny how the big clubs moan about fa cup replays but say nothing when extra games in the UCL are added
A foul is an opinion of the referee, an offside is a more important thing to get right. Do semi automated offsides and scrap off VAR
VAR was meant to eliminate or minimise human error but unfortunately we're seeing more instead
Spurs had success at the start of the season because they played gung-ho. Basically surprised teams with their approach to games. Then opposition trainers got smart and had a strategy to counter their game plan. The failure on Spurs side was then to adapt. Ange ball is just to basic.
Before VAR correct decisions was 82% and using VAR that changed to 96%, there’s your answer.
Take subjective decisions away from VAR completely. There will always be differing opinions amongst players, fans, pundits and officials alike on every decision. Keep it for offside, goal line technology and if the tech is available bring it in for 'ball out of play' decisions as in tennis. Using this technology should be spontaneous, hence the fans will get their game back.
Alan Shearer what a joke 😂😂 … in the last pod he said “this is the worst Manchester United team I have seen in my lifetime”. Then they go and beat the mighty Newcastle … how shit must Newcastle be then Alan 😂😂😂😂
Gary sounding like a proper dinosaur in this
Maybe if the pundits and media stopped protecting the referees they’d be more inclined to actually work on improving their performance