RYOBI battery comparison original vs knock off
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2019
- RYOBI battery comparison test, ORIGINAL 5Ah vs NO BRAND (Vanon) 6 Ah. We test two, fully charged batteries in real forest work, with RYOBI 18V brushless chainsaw 12".
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Good video finally somebody did a real life test instead of using a fan or a light thanks
Thanks so much for your thorough review of the two batteries.
I purchased a pair of P107 3.8Ah
LI-ION batteries which are knock offs on Amazon cheap and have charged them via the Ryobi One battery charger and noticed that the indicator lights on the charger do not function the same as when charging an original Ryobi 4.0 Ah battery.
The green indicator light remains illuminated upon FULL charge of the original Ryobi battery, the knock off battery upon what I believe is a full charge illuminated a red flashing light which according to the battery charger’s info indicates that the battery is overheating; although it wasn’t hot nor even warm to the touch? I’ll attempt to use the knock off batteries tomorrow.
Hoping to update my battery testing.
Thank you!
You did a good video. I love this little chainsaw. The 9ah battery really allows it to work at it's full potential. As for the knockoffs I like to use those in the smaller tools like the lights and the tire inflator and they do really well.
Thank you man! I like it too, and I have now 9ah, works great!
Drain rises exponentially with torque resistance, so the longest use of these batteries occurs when you hear it running easily. The moment the sound pitch starts dropping, you know you are not only draining it much faster but also may overheat the battery, hence the frequent temperature faults.
You can get 3 knock offs for the price of 1 original and swap them in turns
thanks for you video. Realy high quality review!
Thankyou so much for comment! In a month will try review Ryobi trimmer, I like it very, very much!
nice test, thank you!
I always thought the knock offs were more appealing for things like lights and fans where they don't have the same type of drain and as long as they get even close to their advertised runtime they are possibly a reasonable purchase. You know why spend $70 on a battery to throw in a light you use occasionally when you could just grab a $25 and use the nice ones in your other tools.
one part of me is saying that saw is too small for the job, but the other part of me is saying if we are going to test the battery then you need to test it to failure and that is what you did, so good job. According to the comments batteries are crazy expensive in Europe, I wonder why that is. I just bought 2, 4ah for $79.00 on sale at home depot, usa. No reason for me to even think of buying knockoffs. I will consider myself super lucky.
In Europe, we have stupid taxes system. :) Yes you are lucky!
This is a real torture test of both batteries, and I'm impressed the cheap ones did as well as they did.
I just ordered 4 of the cheap ones from amazon $75 for four of them, since I can return them if they are junk,
or really my plan is to swap in bigger better cells, even better than Ryobi. That is what you need for this torture case,
is a really big battery, like a 12ah, 3 cell stack, not just the 2 stacks.
Yes! For many tools cheap batteries work great.
Great video! English is not my mother language, but thanks to your pronunciation i understand every word=)
I got ryobi reciprocating saw (4 A*h is enough), but for large wood use an old chainsaw)
Thankyou for comment! Yes, I know, my English is...beginner level.
i use the knock offs for my ice fishing auger does the job
Great video, cheers and a sub from Sweden 🇸🇪
Thankyou! Happy new 2021!!!
awesome video sir :)
These batteries are mainly for the home DIY enthusiast who only use the tool occasionally who won't overheat the battery.
Battery overheating is not good because it will cause the battery to fail prematurely. The performance may be 2/3 of the Ryobi battery, but the price is like 1/4 of a genuine Ryobi battery. That makes the knock-off battery a good deal for the $.
nice, informative vid... thx for that... :)
Thankyou!
You sure gave the chainsaw too big of a task, we used one to cut some zucchini, performed like a champ. But great job on testing the batteries.
I agree 9Ah battery is the best.
Merry Christmas happy new year. Kansas
Thankyou!!! Merry Christmas to your family!
I have found that fake batteries are not so good on first few charges, but improve with more charges, its to do with the battery balancing or lack of. mine are used in brushless angle grinder but i use an older 8 battery charger that you leave switched on all the time and it trickle charge and tops up batteries . also a very important thing is temperature of batteries when charging. No good charging a cold battery i always allow them to get to room temp. before charging.. so in winter keep charger in a heated place mines in house I have had this kit since lithium were started by ryobi and have only had one battery go bad. thats got be 15 years or so not sure
Knockoff batteries are inferior, but in thr USA they cost 75% less than brand name. I bought four batteries for the price of 1 brand name Ryobi.
None of these are good for serious duty like in your video. But for basic yardwork knockoff is better! For heavy duty use like yours, gas tools run all day.
Yes, agree! And I would say, in the USA original batteries are cheap, compared to Europe.
I just discovered your video. I have noticed that brush-less tools and running the regular no HP batteries tends to shut off the tool under heavy loads.
Yes, agree. Brushless circular saw, and grass trimmer so far never stop work with regular batteries. Looks like this chainsaw really need a lot power.
Za 9Ah is the battery to go with that saw. No heating stops and more power.
Yes, have couple 9Ah, works great!
I'm impressed with the size of the cuts you're able to make with that saw. I just bought the USA equivalent to that saw, but I've only done a few test cuts, I haven't really put it through its paces. It's good to see that it can handle some large wood.
I've also wondered about the eBay knock-off batteries. I suspected that they were inferior, so thanks for confirming that.
Thank you for commenting! Happy New Year!!!
I think they're the same as Ryobi's standard battery- and both the Ryobi nd the knockoff are inferior to the new HP+ battery tech in the more newer and expensive Ryobi HP+batteries
They are not the same, cells are not the same, Vanon battery do work, but quality in everything makes me cry. Body plastic is very hard, what is bad, so easy brake it. In Europe there is point to buy some fake battery, because price difference is several times. But in USA original Ryobi batteries are so cheap, I do not see even point to buy Vanon batteries.
@@Dream4Design Actually, there is still a large difference in price between the genuine Ryobi batteries and the knock-offs even in the USA. But as we say in the USA, you get what you pay for. Is that big difference in price worth the risk of getting "stranded" on a project or job without the power you need?
Great video my friend. Please do the same with the 40V version.
Unfortunately I do not have 40V, I have several gasoline, high performance, and my wife will not understand, why I need some more 😂
You didnt tell how much the Vanon battery cost compared to the Ryobi one. It is crucial information for the recommendation. as far as I know the Vanon cost about 1/5 of the Ryobi, and even if it provides 1/2 of the charge and working time, it is great buy !. I would buy couple of the Vanons. not for the intensive work such as cutting trees but for the electric drill, fan, lights, and other less demanding work. keep the Ryobi for the tough jobs.
Thank you for this GREAT real life test.
Depend of the country, prices are different. In EU it is not 1/5. But your point is correct, I agree!
It sounds like for a chainsaw overheating is the problem not the battery capacity...
Yes, I am wrong!
I bought 2 of the same knockoff brand batteries as well. I disassembled the 6ah fake battery and it only had 4ah of cells in it. It might be worth it to test with a blower to mitigate overheating factor.
😂 typical.
The cheap ones are ok for knocker guns or drills but super high drain they are useless.
Mains electric chainsaws are about 1 to 2kw so a 6AH battery lasting a few minutes would be about right. I think that tool was made for people pruning a tree in their garden, not for felling and logging in the forest.
Exactly what I was thinking, but this guy knows like he knows what he’s doing.
if the battery is overheating repeatedly it means the work load on it is more than what it was designed for. you may need to rethink your equipment, either the battery or the saw or both is not up for the task. Ryobi makes 36V tools and battery system for their heavy outdoor tools range.
Tbh I have a Ryobi router and it will often cutout via thermal protection, it's fine as I don't expect it to run endlessly, but I wouldn't say cutting 1/4 ply with a router is beyond its expected abilities.
Video great, my friend ! Do you know what's the difference between green battery and black battery Rioby ?
sorry, will not know. I stop collecting Ryobi. I found Bitcoin.
Also some of the knock-off batteries are not even Li-ion.
Thank you. Your English is very good Sir! Nice video. Just goes to show - buy cheap, buy twice! :-)
Why do people keep calling replacement batteries "fake"? As long as they are not branded as Ryobi or Makita or Worx, etc., they are not "fakes". The replacement battery was clearly labelled Vanon and not pretending to be a fake Ryobi. In this case it's excusable because he's clearly not English.
Yes, your are right! I call them "fake" because in other videos, people do. Thankyou for comment!
Was here for Ryobi Chainsaw info, to see that its JUNK, unless used for cutting popsicle sticks .... *GREAT VIDEO to see the battery differences*
Sometimes you the knock offs don’t charge, may not be able to return them
That`s right!
I've had the Ryobi 18V brushless chainsaw for a couple of years now. It will work better with the 9Ah battery but don't push the saw, the chain speed is rather low and the saw will not cut fast. I use a 6Ah Ryobi battery in mine and it cuts hard woods just fine. I was cutting 18 inch soft wood logs (Willow), this past Summer and I couldn't believe how much wood I cut on just one 6 Ah battery. From what I've seen on TH-cam, the Vanon batteries are not very good for heavy duty work.
Thankyou man for comment! I did not have 9Ah yet, will try get one.
@@Dream4Design The saw will cut better but unfortunately Ryobi did not put the extra tabs in the saw to take full advantage of using an HP battery.
@@Pro1er Yes, you are right! I heard that new 18V chainsaw, with 10" bar works much better, they double chain cutting speed.
@@Dream4Design Woah! I didn't know that! We only have the original 12" version in America. I will say that in the US the 40V saw is actually cheaper than the 18V and is a much better saw, but I wanted to stay in the 18V battery camp.
@@Pro1er The same, I also have a lot 18V tools and would like to stay there. I have several high performance gasoline chainsaws with heated handles e.t.c. and 40V chainsaw maybe is good, but not enough.
Did you try the 36v version?
No, I know it is better, but... we have 5 gasoline chainsaws, which are like 550xpg or 261MC and they will be better 36v version anyway. This electric small chainsaw we are using for small works at home, and we love it very much, waiting in Europe 10inch version, I will buy it.
Thank you very much
2 days ago Ryobi DA polisher killed 5 out of my 7 fake batteries and they are not coming back to life.
I had fake batteries for my Ryobi vacuum cleaner for 1 year without any problem.
After watching your video I can finally conclude that fake batteries are very good value for money using them with some not very powerful tools like vacuum cleaner , or radio, lights.
When you use car da polisher or this chain saw and most likely grinder to work none stop then fake batteries Are no use and can die as my 5 batteries on same day forever
Shit happens.. thank you for comment!
I was considering ryobi 18V saw but I am happy that I've chosen"normal" stihl M211. I can't imagine that I would have to change battery every 10 min and to swich it 20 times a day just to complete my tasks
Maybe 40v chainsaw is better as 18v, but anyway, I also prefere gasoline chainsaw in forest. At construction site and garden, I like electric!
I am looking at battery Ryobi saw for just small jobs around the house trimming/clean-up so I don't have to gas up my Stihl and then run it out of fuel for storage until the next year. If I were a logger/tree trimmer I wouldn't consider battery power @ all.
Exactly, no gas, no smell, no cold start, just grab and small work done.
Really good test ,Why are you in woods in dark?
In forest it is dark, even in day time! Camera film better if I use some extra light.
Ha, so tell me what is a good alternative to the expensive Ryobi 05,00amp 18 volt 1+ battery?As I am still in the dark. Cheers Jeff
@@Jeff-gw1dv You live in USA? Ryobi products and battery are cheap, cost nothing. If you live in Europe, better find alternative China brand product.
Для цепных пил только 36 вольт+ . Меньше никак, это не шурупы крутить.
Макита 302 делает на 5 амперных АКБ 8-9 срезов сырого ясеня диаметром 30 см. Без остановок! Или 4 среза сырого ясеня диаметром 35 см. Тоже без остановок. Или 20-23 среза сухого дуба диаметр 20-23 см. Но там 36 вольт и редуктор.
Thanks for comment. 36V or 40V (and 72V) chainsaws also are not players, these days, because they can not compete with 50cm gasoline chainsaws. But this small 18V chainsaw, especially with 10"bar and 20m/s chain speed, is super handy tool for small homesteading works and on building site!
I find the opposite! I did not use the Vanon brand
I get more time and power with the off brand .
This video was obviously made by Ryobi.
I would be happy do video with Ryobi!
The 6ah knock off batteries have only 4ah in real, at least the knock of i have at home have only 4ah, i think they are All the have All the same wrong brands.
There is loads of videos shows how this fake battery looks inside...it is really cheap one eve dangerous if you see cell connections... funny thing, on ebay they selling this as 'original' you have to start scroll pictures to see that from second picture there is no ryobi logo just 'lithium' writing ...
That is not the intended purpose of that chainsaw 6" diameter should be the limits of what one should try to cut with this chainsaw your tested method is flawed from the beginning
Get the Dewalt chainsaw
I have plenty gasoline Husqvarnas XPG and Stihl, so any brand electric can not compere with gasoline, today. And one more detail, I do not like, that all electric chainsaws today have narrow chain guide track, max 1,3mm, but in forest I like 1,5mm.
@@Dream4Design yes...gas is way better. What nationality are you?
@@irvingg.1437 I am Latvian.
@@Dream4Design ah ok. I was guessing Finn but I was wrong. Good day to you sir!
@@irvingg.1437 I am in Baltic states, it is close to Finn. The same to you, take care, and thank-you for commenting!
🤣😂buying battery operated chainsaw or lawnmower? Is this a joke?although i get the idea of battery vs battery
Do Not Buy Knock-off batteries! I bought two after watching this video. Neither would charge. Had two replacements. Neither of them charged either. Waste of money, and if you get a refund, a total waste of time. I haven't got the refund yet.
In USA original batteries are so cheap, I do not see reason to buy fake. Different story in Europe. Anyway, me too, I do not recommend Knock-off batteries.
@@Dream4Design currently in Australia i can get an original ryobi 5ah for 150aud and knock off 6ah for 35aud. 2x5ah is on special for 200aud but i can by 6x knockoff ones for that so even if they die quicker it doesn't make sense to by ryobi.
And the Ryobi are still cheap made in china stuff just better plastics and rubber.
In Australia and Europe original Ryobi is stupid expensive, I know, but USA... another story. Happy new year to Australia!
plastic saw horses 🤣
This test is really an abuse of this saw it was never meant for this type of cutting.
I know, just test!
Ridiculous test, your overloading the motor not testing batteries. Try reading the instructions first, not made for that size timber.
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