He's never made sense. Rags on unethical practices but blows blizzard every chance he gets. "I make my own games because companies are shite, also I worked at blizzard the most successful tripple A company. Thats how awesome i am" like can't have the cake and eat it.
Blizzard never really did anything. Chicks said that they are mistreated there everywhere always, yet they couldn't provide even a shred of evidence because "It's hard to prove", except it's not, Johnny Depp proved it easily, and there is an entire subreddit devoted to attacking Johnny Depp and calling him the real guilty. It's called DeppDelusion. They also defended Mikeneko, which is now dubber the Japanese Amber Heard.
A lolsuit is required at this point in order to challenge the counterclaim and keep the material struck. Hopefully his lawyer isn't that lazy. Thor has to be seeing this blowback at this point so it will likely come to his attention.
From the start PS is a character, he is the "Reddit nice guy" by definition... why are people surprised when he was banning people from his slop game on steam, or defended what happened with Godot.
There's no way its not already in the works. I predict they're gonna tie it to ww2 or something. The south park boys dressed up as soldiers being led into battle by Maldavius Figtree, who later abandons them
jfc I was born into Southpark- Moulded by it. They ain't going to touch it. None of this is digestable by a mainstream audience. The Peeeewdiepie and "Not Suitable For Children" is essentially the base line of what a viewer would enjoy. This? This is no different than Leafyishere (RIP muh sweet prince. y no more bullying youtube?! dis is int3rnet). None of this is going to make any sense without hours of exposition
@@DopeGuyTyIdk, the wow episode part 2 about the fallen son of He Who Has No Life, Maldavius Figtree? That'd be funny without knowing he exists in real life, just like the first episode was funny.
They better add the part where he’s a furry on second life. How he made furry characters for other people 🤣🤣 they have to that’s too hilarious guy who takes himself way too seriously is a weird furry freak in private 🤣
Pirate went from false copyright striking people criticizing his shit game to false copyright striking someone's better game. This lolcow speedrun is good.
@@preservinglight Lol, it's not a good question you get the copyright on something by recording it. Of course you own the copyright on a fake voice if it's your words being said. That said, it's probably OK to use someone's voice in a parody video game, since parody is a protected form of fair use. (And doesn't even matter in this case b/c the version of the game he took down didn't even have this guy in it)
@@takanara7 No, you do not own copyright by the act of recording. You own copyright by registering your specific recording. This doesn't mean other people can't record the same thing. Use of voice (as a sub-type of use of likeness) is not a copyright issue. And if he uses a voice changer then it is not actually his voice.
@@takanara7well it falls into public domain if you specifically use said voice in a public manner and record it specifically for streaming purposes It’s outright comparable to a celebrity blurting something stupid in an interview and arguing that it violates the freedom of speech laws to repost said material or talk about it A general rule of thumb is if you want privacy and privacy protection laws do not publish your information pirate software should know this The only thing he can argue is defamation of a roach character which given how much tabloids legally can get away it would be a pretty significant uphill legal battle civil case
Never seen someone speedrun their reputation into the ground like this before. Even the EVE online community is making videos about him how he lied about all that shit.
@@BloodPlusPwn Is he helping them though? He has that Maldavius Figtree persona he used as a furry and he made sexual ferret themed furry costumes for that single life game as well in the past. I worry for them.
He should just avoid it and change the voice to a high pitched synthesized version to represent the voice of a roach. Also worth noting he can sue the roach for loss of earnings due to his false DMCA. 🤔
I swear that I heard Pirate and that mod Kronos talking on a stream clip about how that guy Kronos was leaving his day job to go full-time to work for PirateSoftware.. So he's a lawyer and he's quit his job to be a mod... I've no doubt Kronos is a dumbass from the company he keeps but to become a twitch mod after becoming a lawyer is either incredibly dumb or another fantastical lie by king roach...
@@jonredcorn862no it’s true they’ve talked about it on stream, his is more of thors day planner and event organizer than anything else tho. He had mod privileges and acts as a standby lawyer though if this is his handy work idk how long he is gonna be employed
He would've been far better off if he just kept silent regarding the matter and didn't speak about it going forward. Doubling down on his pride is just going to backfire.
Everyone that says this are completely wrong. Yes, that would work for a normal person. But Maldavious is a lying egotistical freak. That option doesnt work for him because his whole persona is always being a super genius, pro gamer, master hacker, and a knowledgeable game dev. Him being terrible at WOW which is made by the same very company he worked for. While being an asshile liar (Which is the opposite of his persona). Was a hole he could never get himself out of. Unless he admitted to being a fraud. So he had to try and gaslight to keep his persona intact.
He never should have doubled down in fangs. Or trippled… The trip got him kicked. He shouldn’t have quadrupled down or made angry venting stream content on it. So many times he could have to pulled back and reformed ranks... And who did he choose to go to war with?? The world.
7 days to die was in early access for a decade and only just released the full game last year so it's definitely not unheard of... the issue would be the fact that he did a kickstarter... claimed the game was gonna be released in 2017... that doesn't happen that often... especially when the game was crowd funded
He is just such a worm.... I'm glad the destiny drama isn't completely pushing Jason out of the news cycle, Every action he takes needs to be brought into the light
9:44 he'd have to pay damages *and* legal bills, which could be $10s of thousands - ideally you'd get a lawyer to take the case on commission, since it's a slam dunk case a lawyer will take the case and then take their payment out of the winnings, rather then you needing to pay upfront.
So according to him he has a lawyer on retention who actively watches his stream..........yet he could not do the most basic thing of confirming someone before filing a DMCA 🤦
Retaining a lawyer as a private individual....lol no one does this unless they are extremely wealthy or constantly involved in legal disputes. Big companies that have constant battles with regulatory agencies and threat of lawsuits from customers have lawyers on retainer. Like an insurance agency for example. He might have hired a lawyer recently, but almost guaranteed he did not just have one sitting around on retainer.
@ He could have been referring to a specific retainer but given this guy's history I just think he wanted to sound cool and say something he heard on Law and Order once. Most people just say "I hired a lawyer".
@@BobrLovr ehh American unsocialized younger furries maybe but the few I met on xbox live and steam back in the day of various countries dont really give a damn. one of the more mental ones I knew on Steam was an alcoholic Australian prison guard and liked gory MLP art specifically because it helped him trivialize his trauma
The guy's game looks fun. It's a big tell that Maldavius takes Reddit very serious. Also, Mr. Figtree is actually killing games beyond not supporting Stop Killing Games. The layers of irony... Pvt Parts' game looks like it is interesting. I think I will buy it when it comes out. Thanks Mr. Figtree!
How will Roach's business partner, Asmongold, continue to ignore all this negative brandding and character flak for associating with such a petulant fraud?
DSP was made into a game similarly: The Detractor. In the end the creator has to modify the voice. It might be worth comparing the differences since PirateSoftware is pretty much the new generation of DSP.
Can we just appreciate the fact that every single day there is more things coming out about Pirate that we can all get a laugh out of? What an absolute cringe-lord.
17:30 To say it was malicious, imply that the idie game dude was lying or corrupting something. The roach in the game that is portrayed as Pirate Software is a satire to his recent drama, where he was being called out for being a coward and a self centered liar, to imply malice imply that the indie dude was Lying when creating this satire. You can actually trace through it that Pirate still thinks he is correct on that matter, enough to think that someone mocking him for that, instead of agreeing with him is a corruption of the truth. The second way to understand it is through a positivist legal mindset, he believes he owns his own reputation as if it was his right, and since he owns it he can do almost anything to control and protect it. In this sense, It was malicious satire because it portrayed his reputation in a bad manner and since he owns his reputation, he uses everything he can, to control it and protect it, if he could punch and jail the indie game dude he would. You can also derivate from this idea that, It also makes any kind of attack on any reputation a form of agression against private property therefore against the legislation. Thanks statist capitalists your corporativism made everyone a possible entitled Mikey Mouse, all for fuc.king monetization, because i challenge you to show me the real damage on cliping someone else voice and using it somewhere, its only usefull to harass and protect monetization. Because i bet your as.s that if the clip the indie game dude took was a chill clip, Pirate would not care, he is but using police to harm and harass the indie game dude. And you all stand to think its fair, just because you all agreed to the terms of service of the platforms and games, because they bought you.
Using voice lines like that is probably NOT illegal since it's a parody. Like, if you just sampled someone's voice and used them in a "serious" way like with OpenAI and Scarlett Johanson then that could be illegal, but PARODY is protected under copyright. According to the google AI summary* the factors that go into it are: ・ How much of the original work is used ・ How the material is transformed ・ Whether the copyright owner is financially harmed ・The effect the parody has on the market for the original work Since this is a totally separate thing, not competing with his vods and also clearly a parody. It should have been fine even if he had uploaded it. But he didn't More importantly, though this was just an alpha build of the game and not up on steam, *so it's a completely false DMCA - which means Piratesoftware SHOULD have to pay damages plus whatever legal bills got racked up in the case.
You can't copyright your voice. Yes, technically, you have to have someone's permission to use their voice in a product, but you could sample the voice and alter it a bit, and it's no longer their voice. Not only that, but if the voice lines were recorded off of Twitch or something he may have already waived any right to anything said in the stream. Depending on the service's tos.
Nah he won't, that would require too much introspection, he's too busy pointing fingers at anyone else to look inward and discover something like that about himself.
It's often the frail and fragile men that behave the worst. Dude could have just highlighted this guy's funny video game, leaned into it, laughed at himself and carried on. Who cares? Dude is totally missing out on an opportunity to sell an assload of roach themed merch, too. lol
Guess he's never heard of the streisand effect. Trying to silence people only brings in more attention. Plus this will attract the attention of lawtube and all the legal channels out there.
So hold on... There's a post saying "Oh hey, Pirate Software is appearing as a guest in my game", and he's using this as proof that the build with him in it is on Steam... But the comments, as he himself pointed out, were saying things like "No, don't do it" as if it's not live... Assuming there wasn't any subsequent Reddit posts that says he was added to the Steam build... How did he come to the conclusion that "These people were telling you not to do it, but you did it anyways..." Pirate Software has to be the biggest idiot I've ever seen. Couldn't even be assed to confirm his own assertions.
You should look up 'Pirate Software lies about Eve Online' and you see how far gone this Person really is. Cried about EVE that the Devs weren't responding to him and he burned down all he had in EVE, then quit the Game.
Yeah he got outplayed and outsmarted and then cried because the devs didn't essentially rig the game in his corpos favor, if I remember right. Even when I heard that story from his perspective on a yt short it sounded fishy.
@@freespeechenjoyer He told this Story as he was some kind of Master Mind. The Genius of the Universe but when you know how EVE Online works, he just sounded like a stupid Kid who understood nothing. Almost everything is PvP in Eve and you have to defend your Stuff that you own and he said it was stupid that they where in a Month long War over Resources in there Sector. After all that he stayed a bit in High Sec, the baby PvE Area and cried about it. Really wild.
I just lost 30 minutes watching this video. This youtuber is full of shit. Yes devs fucked hard said space and the players. You would know if you played eve and it's not uncommon to see people ragequit over it. Litteraly alliances have disbanded and people went awol because of how they fuck up their updates.
Never liked Pirate Software. Always thought he was a bit of a midwit. Glad to see him proving my initial impressions correct. How does this guy assume react streamers exist?
How DMCA strikes work is that the complainant is presumptively right and it causes an immediate takedown of the material to protect the host. If it is then challenged by the accused then the complainant must respond before the deadline or the material goes back up. However the response needs to be proof of initiated legal action. So Thor either has to initiate a lawsuit or the material goes back up. So he got trolled hard. He's really digging a hole for himself here. Hopefully his lawyer does some due diligence before pursuing legal action. I don't know whether a court would consider what they have now prima facie sufficient basis to strike or initiate action. It might invite sanctions from the court if they actually sue without checking the game contents. On the other hand it might be enough and the court could decide that courts are there to resolve stuff like this. I know courts tend to be busy and don't like their time being wasted because of poor preparation & a lack of due diligence.
I have no idea who Pirate was prior to that Dire Maul debacle but it's funny seeing his all of his lies come to light along with his annoying voice modulator. It's somewhat entertaining having other people who played games that talks about, call him out on his lies and deceit. With saying that, you have such a huge hate boner for this guy and it seems unhealthy. It's like a troll from the old WingsofRedemotion era, with Sean Ranklin (Shout out). You literally come out with a video everyday. It's like this guy has consumed your entire life and he probably doesn't even know who you are.
It’s probably a simple mod added to the standard build with dmca free audio, simply using someone “in this case a content creator “ the most that can be done is the clip itself will be privated so no one can watch it. That is the base facts of this
Considering how unlikeable he's been every time I've ever seen him pop up in my feed, I am very surprised it took this long for people to start to turn on him.
I'm obviously not a lawyer but I don't think this would hold up even if the song was in the game. There is such a thing as fair use and I think it would be very hard to argue that this is not transformative.
Unfortunately this issue of PirateSoftware is going to be going badly for the Developer, look at 10:05-10:30, this explanation justifies the action of Filing Suit. Infact, the counter suit, would fall through because of this. Claiming this is a False DMCA strike is inaccurate , because again, at the time stated in the video, it is clearly meant as a concept for furture content of the game, even if the there is nothing like that in the Current version of the game or in the Current Updates on his machine of the game being worked on. I also want to mention, when you speak about a " Cease and Desist " letter, you are asking for them to stop this before you have to take legal action, where I normally have heard only of Cease and Desist Orders where they are written through legal means, from lawyers, to be sent out, demanding the immediate stoppage of something a Client does not like otherwise further legal action can be taken. Basically, what I am see in this video, is that, you are showing someone for messing up, posing potential concept/future content of a game, to the public for people to possibly expect it into a game, then doubling back stating that you have no such content on and active or current project on the machine, which I am betting any lawyer could make the argument, that because he made a video, with Piratesoftwares Voice in it, which he claims could have been future content or concepts, that he did in fact use game assest of the game when making the video, to make that come true at one point down the line. This is not Intimidation, this is the right course of action when seeing counter claims on things. The problem for the owner and developer is that he made possible Content and a Concept piece, while using the voice of another, public, was told by many he should not do this, probably told to delete the video and make an apology or something, but left it where it was, leading to the DMCA Strike, which, there is no way of knowing, Pirate Software was not anywhere in the game or in any possible future content being developed, with out playing the game or seeing the future content before it is uploaded. Even being told by the Developer that there is no plans to even do this, and there is no content like that in any of the game current to steam and on future content on the machine is just Hearsay. In fact, making this video, was a mistake, he should of not spoke this issue, not of made this video, not of spoken with Hearsay about what is or is not on his machine for data and should of just immediately spoken to a lawyer about this while not bringing it up at all. I can see where both are coming from. One is being actively hurt by a DMCA Take down, that they could of claimed as a False Take down if they did not make this video and did not claim about Future Content or Concepts involving PirateSoftware's Voice. However on the other, the issue that arose, where people have been making fun of PirateSoftware, berating him, harassing him and worse, has affected his own livelihood a little bit, probably not too much to matter that much, even if it is all in jest, because it is negatively impacting. That being said, PirateSoftware, I bet used to try to talk things out with people when all this first started with him have to deal with Imposters and his voice being used without his consent when people were getting scammed and such, but it got to a point that many probably said Screw you or refused to stop when he would send Cease and Desist Orders, so everything went to the courts instead, in which not he just skips the useless portions and goes straight to legal action.
before this, when he was getting popular, a couple smaller channels made videos criticizing him and exposing his past but he dmca'd all of them and got them taken down. he got away with it cus he was a much bigger channel. now there are way too many videos on him and some by creators that are much bigger than him, so he cant take them down now.
Is it illegal to use voice lines that were spoken in public? I don't think that it is. Otherwise the various NEWs programs would never be able to play clips of people speaking about various things. If you say something, in a setting where you have ZERO reasonable expectation of privacy, then you can be recorded and that recording can be used for anything. You have no automatic copyright on your voice.
I think it just plain dirty to make that kind "character" concept and use other streamer voice, hint that it might go in game and then just make more fun because it other party can't dmc the game. "Hey, piratesoftware is making guest appearance in my game". Even say that Piratesoftware is so predictable that you wanted to this happen? Why in PoE video dosen't have original voice or it sounds weird? And to make game from other people's mistakes and misery and bad stuff they have done in life? Well it was clear that you weren't using that character concept in good intentions. Even it's clear that you aren't using it in malicious intent
all of this because he couldnt just say "yeah my bad" lol. Also, the funniest part of the whole thing is that pursuing action in regards to this means that Thor acknowledges that the cockroach is sufficiently representative of him to not qualify as parody lol
In the USA Voice is not a fixed medium, so it's not tangible to copyright. But, your voice used commercially does need your consent to be used. Which in this case both of these things are not true, so pirate softy is mad over nothing.
From the start PS is a character, he is the "Reddit nice guy" by definition... why are people surprised when he was banning people from his slop game on steam, or defended what happened with Godot.
EVEN IF the game did include voice clips of him, or make a joke about him, it is extremely lame to file a DMCA or a "legal complaint", over something so petty. I've lost any respect I may have had for Thor and piratesoftware. He has proven himself to be someone I'd despise. He has no sense of humor, he has an inflated ego, and he is unable to laugh at himself. And he treats other people ingames like a garbage. Tap a mob before he does, and he'll try to grief you into quitting.
2025 i can see pirate software canceled. Yes my understanding of developer tos is abuse/fraud on steam. Private will likely get told off for abuse. Pirate just screwing himself even more, and this being local build and that means nothing as it's not public.
Saying you worked for Blizzard is like saying you worked for Epstein.
LMAO XD as a child "designer"
He's never made sense. Rags on unethical practices but blows blizzard every chance he gets.
"I make my own games because companies are shite, also I worked at blizzard the most successful tripple A company. Thats how awesome i am"
like can't have the cake and eat it.
And yet his own game has been in early access for eight years now and is pretty much abandoned.
Blizzard never really did anything. Chicks said that they are mistreated there everywhere always, yet they couldn't provide even a shred of evidence because "It's hard to prove", except it's not, Johnny Depp proved it easily, and there is an entire subreddit devoted to attacking Johnny Depp and calling him the real guilty. It's called DeppDelusion. They also defended Mikeneko, which is now dubber the Japanese Amber Heard.
They might of had a room like Activision
He's speedrunning the lolcow circuit if he's now throwing around legal threats. All that's left is for him to file a lolsuit.
A lolsuit is required at this point in order to challenge the counterclaim and keep the material struck. Hopefully his lawyer isn't that lazy. Thor has to be seeing this blowback at this point so it will likely come to his attention.
From the start PS is a character, he is the "Reddit nice guy" by definition... why are people surprised when he was banning people from his slop game on steam, or defended what happened with Godot.
Reminds me of Nick Rekieta. A seemingly cool Nepobaby that turns out to be a megacow that destroyed all of their credibility in one fell swoop.
@FFVogter.-em6zz Rekieta milk is drying up so I'm here for my new cow.
@ I find it strange that I experience and know these crossovers. It’s like all of social media is a scripted reality show.
If south park doesn’t Fucking give me an episode revolving around this drama I’ll cry
There's no way its not already in the works. I predict they're gonna tie it to ww2 or something. The south park boys dressed up as soldiers being led into battle by Maldavius Figtree, who later abandons them
jfc I was born into Southpark- Moulded by it. They ain't going to touch it. None of this is digestable by a mainstream audience. The Peeeewdiepie and "Not Suitable For Children" is essentially the base line of what a viewer would enjoy. This? This is no different than Leafyishere (RIP muh sweet prince. y no more bullying youtube?! dis is int3rnet). None of this is going to make any sense without hours of exposition
It's gonna be the WOW episode part 2 lmao@@freespeechenjoyer
@@DopeGuyTyIdk, the wow episode part 2 about the fallen son of He Who Has No Life, Maldavius Figtree? That'd be funny without knowing he exists in real life, just like the first episode was funny.
They better add the part where he’s a furry on second life. How he made furry characters for other people 🤣🤣 they have to that’s too hilarious guy who takes himself way too seriously is a weird furry freak in private 🤣
Pirate went from false copyright striking people criticizing his shit game to false copyright striking someone's better game. This lolcow speedrun is good.
Thor is the new Billy Mitchell.
Oh here we go bois, the next episode just dropped!
Can he even DMCA his voice when it's not even his voice?
Good question
@@preservinglight Lol, it's not a good question you get the copyright on something by recording it. Of course you own the copyright on a fake voice if it's your words being said. That said, it's probably OK to use someone's voice in a parody video game, since parody is a protected form of fair use. (And doesn't even matter in this case b/c the version of the game he took down didn't even have this guy in it)
@@takanara7 No, you do not own copyright by the act of recording. You own copyright by registering your specific recording. This doesn't mean other people can't record the same thing.
Use of voice (as a sub-type of use of likeness) is not a copyright issue.
And if he uses a voice changer then it is not actually his voice.
@takanara7 Short sentences can't be copyrighted, and there are exceptions such as fair use, criticism and satire. Voice itself can't be copyrighted.
@@takanara7well it falls into public domain if you specifically use said voice in a public manner and record it specifically for streaming purposes
It’s outright comparable to a celebrity blurting something stupid in an interview and arguing that it violates the freedom of speech laws to repost said material or talk about it
A general rule of thumb is if you want privacy and privacy protection laws do not publish your information pirate software should know this
The only thing he can argue is defamation of a roach character which given how much tabloids legally can get away it would be a pretty significant uphill legal battle civil case
Never seen someone speedrun their reputation into the ground like this before. Even the EVE online community is making videos about him how he lied about all that shit.
Cant use someone's likeness in a creative context? Someone should tell South Park, SNL, and every other parody media.
pirate is like the mean kid that nobody ever liked
And still nobody likes outside of other ferret lovers
@@tonyr6180 As a confirmed enjoyer of ferrets, I enjoy the fact that he is helping him but I absolutely do not like him lol
@@BloodPlusPwn Is he helping them though? He has that Maldavius Figtree persona he used as a furry and he made sexual ferret themed furry costumes for that single life game as well in the past. I worry for them.
@ I have no idea, frankly I know very little about him but are you implying that he is sexually abusing them? Is that a genuine concern here?
The pirate with the brittlest ego is sucking up to the copyright authorities to silence mockery.
i decided i hated him the minute he defended the idea of live service games like we need them.
Please, I hope he does!
I hope he becomes the next Billy Mitchell.
That would be so much fun.
i think he already is...
@@Panekmyrip I personally dislike his voice it reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes
This is the perfect comparison honestly
Billy Mitchell, Elon Musk, and Maldavius Figtree all have the same thing in common. It's hilarious to me.
Not sure he can match the legend
He should just avoid it and change the voice to a high pitched synthesized version to represent the voice of a roach. Also worth noting he can sue the roach for loss of earnings due to his false DMCA. 🤔
wish he said "Thanks Thor for playing this clip to allegedly 15,000 people"
he very clearly bots his streams
At this point even DSP is like "bruh."
He happy the slop sliding to someone louder
That’s foul
Bruh DSP look at this and think it be a good idea 😂
@@MotivationExMeNah. The Casino has reformed him.
I swear that I heard Pirate and that mod Kronos talking on a stream clip about how that guy Kronos was leaving his day job to go full-time to work for PirateSoftware..
So he's a lawyer and he's quit his job to be a mod... I've no doubt Kronos is a dumbass from the company he keeps but to become a twitch mod after becoming a lawyer is either incredibly dumb or another fantastical lie by king roach...
Sounds like bullshit
No evidence that was his day job and he could just be full of it also. Keep in mind your source of this information is a known liar.
@@jonredcorn862no it’s true they’ve talked about it on stream, his is more of thors day planner and event organizer than anything else tho. He had mod privileges and acts as a standby lawyer though if this is his handy work idk how long he is gonna be employed
@@freespeechenjoyer Which is why I ended the post with "or another fantastical lie by king roach"
He wasn't a lawyer, he was just a paper pusher at a law office. Complete liar, just like Jason. Birds of a feather.
He would've been far better off if he just kept silent regarding the matter and didn't speak about it going forward. Doubling down on his pride is just going to backfire.
lolcows can't help being lolcows or they wouldn't be lolcows
Everyone that says this are completely wrong. Yes, that would work for a normal person. But Maldavious is a lying egotistical freak. That option doesnt work for him because his whole persona is always being a super genius, pro gamer, master hacker, and a knowledgeable game dev. Him being terrible at WOW which is made by the same very company he worked for. While being an asshile liar (Which is the opposite of his persona). Was a hole he could never get himself out of. Unless he admitted to being a fraud. So he had to try and gaslight to keep his persona intact.
Roach could have gained even more popularity if he had been even remotely contrite.
He never should have doubled down in fangs. Or trippled…
The trip got him kicked.
He shouldn’t have quadrupled down or made angry venting stream content on it.
So many times he could have to pulled back and reformed ranks... And who did he choose to go to war with??
The world.
is it really his voice if he uses a voicechanger though?
He is deepening his voice.
It’s his real voice, watch the award he received
@@jonathansaindon788 🤣
better call saul legal arguement lmao
original content do not steal
Speaking of abusing Steam's systems.... how is the lay of the land regarding 8 years in Early Access? .... (mana gem)
Seems to be an industry standard sadly
7 days to die was in early access for a decade and only just released the full game last year so it's definitely not unheard of... the issue would be the fact that he did a kickstarter... claimed the game was gonna be released in 2017... that doesn't happen that often... especially when the game was crowd funded
YandereDev 2.0 except even more insufferable
Can't you see his mana! He can't release the game yet.
Legend says that Figtree is actually a ferret operating a failure meatsuit.
He is just such a worm.... I'm glad the destiny drama isn't completely pushing Jason out of the news cycle, Every action he takes needs to be brought into the light
9:44 he'd have to pay damages *and* legal bills, which could be $10s of thousands - ideally you'd get a lawyer to take the case on commission, since it's a slam dunk case a lawyer will take the case and then take their payment out of the winnings, rather then you needing to pay upfront.
Pirate is that kid who got bullied in high school, and now he's become one himself.
So according to him he has a lawyer on retention who actively watches his stream..........yet he could not do the most basic thing of confirming someone before filing a DMCA 🤦
@@Browncoatful And a DMCA requires you to do a fair use analysis prior to filing it. They didn't do it. That's perjury.
Retaining a lawyer as a private individual....lol no one does this unless they are extremely wealthy or constantly involved in legal disputes. Big companies that have constant battles with regulatory agencies and threat of lawsuits from customers have lawyers on retainer. Like an insurance agency for example.
He might have hired a lawyer recently, but almost guaranteed he did not just have one sitting around on retainer.
@@freespeechenjoyer On retainer just means he paid the lawyer in advance. This is normal for larger youtubers.
@ He could have been referring to a specific retainer but given this guy's history I just think he wanted to sound cool and say something he heard on Law and Order once. Most people just say "I hired a lawyer".
For a furry he seems to have thin skin.
they literally always do, ever make fun of one? They act like the world is ending
@@BobrLovr ehh American unsocialized younger furries maybe but the few I met on xbox live and steam back in the day of various countries dont really give a damn. one of the more mental ones I knew on Steam was an alcoholic Australian prison guard and liked gory MLP art specifically because it helped him trivialize his trauma
@@TheHippyProductions your steam friend is the most average furry
Pirate doesn't know about Fair Use? Hm
To be fair, fair use is a defense not an immunity so you can still get DMCA’ed
The guy's game looks fun. It's a big tell that Maldavius takes Reddit very serious. Also, Mr. Figtree is actually killing games beyond not supporting Stop Killing Games. The layers of irony...
Pvt Parts' game looks like it is interesting. I think I will buy it when it comes out. Thanks Mr. Figtree!
What’s crazy is it took him a single incident on stream for Thor to just fuck up at every next turn
“I’m glad he agrees his likeness is that of a roach”
He's not Malding, hes Maldavius
Maldingvius Fig-REE.
How will Roach's business partner, Asmongold, continue to ignore all this negative brandding and character flak for associating with such a petulant fraud?
WAT A LOLCOW, MILK MILK MILK
Ugh... His smugness is just gross (the roach's that is). It, by far, exceeds his intelligence.
DSP was made into a game similarly: The Detractor. In the end the creator has to modify the voice. It might be worth comparing the differences since PirateSoftware is pretty much the new generation of DSP.
Can we just appreciate the fact that every single day there is more things coming out about Pirate that we can all get a laugh out of? What an absolute cringe-lord.
17:30
To say it was malicious, imply that the idie game dude was lying or corrupting something. The roach in the game that is portrayed as Pirate Software is a satire to his recent drama, where he was being called out for being a coward and a self centered liar, to imply malice imply that the indie dude was Lying when creating this satire. You can actually trace through it that Pirate still thinks he is correct on that matter, enough to think that someone mocking him for that, instead of agreeing with him is a corruption of the truth.
The second way to understand it is through a positivist legal mindset, he believes he owns his own reputation as if it was his right, and since he owns it he can do almost anything to control and protect it. In this sense, It was malicious satire because it portrayed his reputation in a bad manner and since he owns his reputation, he uses everything he can, to control it and protect it, if he could punch and jail the indie game dude he would. You can also derivate from this idea that, It also makes any kind of attack on any reputation a form of agression against private property therefore against the legislation.
Thanks statist capitalists your corporativism made everyone a possible entitled Mikey Mouse, all for fuc.king monetization, because i challenge you to show me the real damage on cliping someone else voice and using it somewhere, its only usefull to harass and protect monetization. Because i bet your as.s that if the clip the indie game dude took was a chill clip, Pirate would not care, he is but using police to harm and harass the indie game dude. And you all stand to think its fair, just because you all agreed to the terms of service of the platforms and games, because they bought you.
Using voice lines like that is probably NOT illegal since it's a parody. Like, if you just sampled someone's voice and used them in a "serious" way like with OpenAI and Scarlett Johanson then that could be illegal, but PARODY is protected under copyright. According to the google AI summary* the factors that go into it are:
・ How much of the original work is used
・ How the material is transformed
・ Whether the copyright owner is financially harmed
・The effect the parody has on the market for the original work
Since this is a totally separate thing, not competing with his vods and also clearly a parody. It should have been fine even if he had uploaded it. But he didn't More importantly, though this was just an alpha build of the game and not up on steam, *so it's a completely false DMCA - which means Piratesoftware SHOULD have to pay damages plus whatever legal bills got racked up in the case.
Time for everyone to watch the movie Absent of Malice- the roach and his lawyer might learn something
Lol perfect. Him getting exposed in discovery and it being a matter of legal record would be beautiful.
Maldavius Figtree
Man is campaigning hard for lolcow of the year 2025 and it's not even the end of January. Roach needs to pace himself.
That Roach is large enough follower count to classify as a public figure - which is different under the law
You can't copyright your voice. Yes, technically, you have to have someone's permission to use their voice in a product, but you could sample the voice and alter it a bit, and it's no longer their voice. Not only that, but if the voice lines were recorded off of Twitch or something he may have already waived any right to anything said in the stream. Depending on the service's tos.
Thor is going to be trans. His hair is alreaady fitting. End of story, he can say he's the victim and Steam has to pander to his will.
It'll begin with some flamboyantly colored glasses.
Nah he won't, that would require too much introspection, he's too busy pointing fingers at anyone else to look inward and discover something like that about himself.
It's illegal to use someone else's media unless it's transformative. The purpose of parody is specifically protected in the language of the DMCA.
All of this because he didn't want to say I'm sorry I fucked and forgot to use blizzard rank 1
Doesn’t seem to about frost nova either- which definitely costs way more than the six blinks and frost armor he used doing nothing
Or be good enough to know when he would have aggro vs 4 other actively engage and far higher on their throat table than 1 tick of max blizzard
Soo piratesoftware is doing the same thing what poki did to silence their critics, false DMCA and copyright strikes
i saw Pirate Software on Grindr... ;x and we matched...
Confirmed, I was phone.
get him pregnant
@@itsgryme1081 real
Crowdfund for the legal fees. Put the "mald" back into "Maldavious"!
Basically, he's taking the Nexon approach using his wallet to bully smaller creators even though he actually has no case.
Do it pirate, fucking do it. I will love to watch this play out.
It´s illegal to abuse the DMCA, perjury.
It's often the frail and fragile men that behave the worst. Dude could have just highlighted this guy's funny video game, leaned into it, laughed at himself and carried on. Who cares? Dude is totally missing out on an opportunity to sell an assload of roach themed merch, too. lol
His lies are his everything, he'll stop at nothing.
Guess he's never heard of the streisand effect. Trying to silence people only brings in more attention. Plus this will attract the attention of lawtube and all the legal channels out there.
the gift that keeps on giving
You'd think he would know more about the likeness laws since his dad had a hand in the south park wow episode
Thors ego is so massive he’s assuming he’s in a streamer video game. 😂
The Onision of videogames
So hold on... There's a post saying "Oh hey, Pirate Software is appearing as a guest in my game", and he's using this as proof that the build with him in it is on Steam... But the comments, as he himself pointed out, were saying things like "No, don't do it" as if it's not live... Assuming there wasn't any subsequent Reddit posts that says he was added to the Steam build... How did he come to the conclusion that "These people were telling you not to do it, but you did it anyways..."
Pirate Software has to be the biggest idiot I've ever seen. Couldn't even be assed to confirm his own assertions.
You should look up 'Pirate Software lies about Eve Online' and you see how far gone this Person really is. Cried about EVE that the Devs weren't responding to him and he burned down all he had in EVE, then quit the Game.
Yeah he got outplayed and outsmarted and then cried because the devs didn't essentially rig the game in his corpos favor, if I remember right. Even when I heard that story from his perspective on a yt short it sounded fishy.
@@freespeechenjoyer He told this Story as he was some kind of Master Mind. The Genius of the Universe but when you know how EVE Online works, he just sounded like a stupid Kid who understood nothing.
Almost everything is PvP in Eve and you have to defend your Stuff that you own and he said it was stupid that they where in a Month long War over Resources in there Sector.
After all that he stayed a bit in High Sec, the baby PvE Area and cried about it. Really wild.
I just lost 30 minutes watching this video. This youtuber is full of shit.
Yes devs fucked hard said space and the players. You would know if you played eve and it's not uncommon to see people ragequit over it.
Litteraly alliances have disbanded and people went awol because of how they fuck up their updates.
the "don't tread on me" cup kinda soured the drama a little bit
"im just a dude streaming a dude streaming another dude"
Never liked Pirate Software. Always thought he was a bit of a midwit. Glad to see him proving my initial impressions correct. How does this guy assume react streamers exist?
How DMCA strikes work is that the complainant is presumptively right and it causes an immediate takedown of the material to protect the host. If it is then challenged by the accused then the complainant must respond before the deadline or the material goes back up. However the response needs to be proof of initiated legal action. So Thor either has to initiate a lawsuit or the material goes back up. So he got trolled hard. He's really digging a hole for himself here. Hopefully his lawyer does some due diligence before pursuing legal action. I don't know whether a court would consider what they have now prima facie sufficient basis to strike or initiate action. It might invite sanctions from the court if they actually sue without checking the game contents. On the other hand it might be enough and the court could decide that courts are there to resolve stuff like this. I know courts tend to be busy and don't like their time being wasted because of poor preparation & a lack of due diligence.
You are making sweeping claims like you passed the bar in every county in America.
Parody...is a thing.
Going full Billy Mitchel lol
Hi. I'm this guy's lawyer. We hope to have something to present about what went down in a couple of weeks. Just need things to stabilize first.
I have no idea who Pirate was prior to that Dire Maul debacle but it's funny seeing his all of his lies come to light along with his annoying voice modulator. It's somewhat entertaining having other people who played games that talks about, call him out on his lies and deceit.
With saying that, you have such a huge hate boner for this guy and it seems unhealthy. It's like a troll from the old WingsofRedemotion era, with Sean Ranklin (Shout out). You literally come out with a video everyday. It's like this guy has consumed your entire life and he probably doesn't even know who you are.
It's no joke for creators because they could also get harassed in this manner, so doing this kind of thing always leads to an epic dogpile.
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One does not choose the lolcow lifestyle, the lolcow lifestyle chooses you 😎😎
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It’s probably a simple mod added to the standard build with dmca free audio, simply using someone “in this case a content creator “ the most that can be done is the clip itself will be privated so no one can watch it. That is the base facts of this
Why do none of these people ever just apologize and own their mistakes?
proving malice in my opinion is there as a play when a client can pay their lawyer enough to make things happen
Thor going for loventhunder
rat soft giving us all this drama is so nice of him
Despie his dad being on south park, he doesnt understand the streisand effect
Considering how unlikeable he's been every time I've ever seen him pop up in my feed, I am very surprised it took this long for people to start to turn on him.
React to LORU GAMING's Eve video about his massive ego and Eve career of lies ! iT s 50 minute breakdown of him lolcowing long before fame
Worked for blizzard, can’t use one to save his team.
Thor : i don't like reactionary drama so thats why i banned a thousand people
Also Thor : "sees r3ddit post" reacts dramatically
Pirates fragile ego shattered at the tiniest bit of criticism… kinda makes you wonder what else he’s hiding…
Is using the voice clips actually not allowed?
It's kind of like a caricature
Or should they just rerecord the lines themselves for it to be ok?
Fleeroy Jenkins, the roachiest roach of them all.
PirateSoftware is cooked. Done. Congratulations, you putz. Now you could (and should) be sued for abusing the DMCA.
I'm obviously not a lawyer but I don't think this would hold up even if the song was in the game. There is such a thing as fair use and I think it would be very hard to argue that this is not transformative.
Unfortunately this issue of PirateSoftware is going to be going badly for the Developer, look at 10:05-10:30, this explanation justifies the action of Filing Suit.
Infact, the counter suit, would fall through because of this.
Claiming this is a False DMCA strike is inaccurate , because again, at the time stated in the video, it is clearly meant as a concept for furture content of the game, even if the there is nothing like that in the Current version of the game or in the Current Updates on his machine of the game being worked on.
I also want to mention, when you speak about a " Cease and Desist " letter, you are asking for them to stop this before you have to take legal action, where I normally have heard only of Cease and Desist Orders where they are written through legal means, from lawyers, to be sent out, demanding the immediate stoppage of something a Client does not like otherwise further legal action can be taken.
Basically, what I am see in this video, is that, you are showing someone for messing up, posing potential concept/future content of a game, to the public for people to possibly expect it into a game, then doubling back stating that you have no such content on and active or current project on the machine, which I am betting any lawyer could make the argument, that because he made a video, with Piratesoftwares Voice in it, which he claims could have been future content or concepts, that he did in fact use game assest of the game when making the video, to make that come true at one point down the line.
This is not Intimidation, this is the right course of action when seeing counter claims on things.
The problem for the owner and developer is that he made possible Content and a Concept piece, while using the voice of another, public, was told by many he should not do this, probably told to delete the video and make an apology or something, but left it where it was, leading to the DMCA Strike, which, there is no way of knowing, Pirate Software was not anywhere in the game or in any possible future content being developed, with out playing the game or seeing the future content before it is uploaded. Even being told by the Developer that there is no plans to even do this, and there is no content like that in any of the game current to steam and on future content on the machine is just Hearsay. In fact, making this video, was a mistake, he should of not spoke this issue, not of made this video, not of spoken with Hearsay about what is or is not on his machine for data and should of just immediately spoken to a lawyer about this while not bringing it up at all.
I can see where both are coming from. One is being actively hurt by a DMCA Take down, that they could of claimed as a False Take down if they did not make this video and did not claim about Future Content or Concepts involving PirateSoftware's Voice. However on the other, the issue that arose, where people have been making fun of PirateSoftware, berating him, harassing him and worse, has affected his own livelihood a little bit, probably not too much to matter that much, even if it is all in jest, because it is negatively impacting.
That being said, PirateSoftware, I bet used to try to talk things out with people when all this first started with him have to deal with Imposters and his voice being used without his consent when people were getting scammed and such, but it got to a point that many probably said Screw you or refused to stop when he would send Cease and Desist Orders, so everything went to the courts instead, in which not he just skips the useless portions and goes straight to legal action.
before this, when he was getting popular, a couple smaller channels made videos criticizing him and exposing his past but he dmca'd all of them and got them taken down. he got away with it cus he was a much bigger channel. now there are way too many videos on him and some by creators that are much bigger than him, so he cant take them down now.
Is it illegal to use voice lines that were spoken in public? I don't think that it is. Otherwise the various NEWs programs would never be able to play clips of people speaking about various things. If you say something, in a setting where you have ZERO reasonable expectation of privacy, then you can be recorded and that recording can be used for anything. You have no automatic copyright on your voice.
I think it just plain dirty to make that kind "character" concept and use other streamer voice, hint that it might go in game and then just make more fun because it other party can't dmc the game. "Hey, piratesoftware is making guest appearance in my game". Even say that Piratesoftware is so predictable that you wanted to this happen? Why in PoE video dosen't have original voice or it sounds weird?
And to make game from other people's mistakes and misery and bad stuff they have done in life?
Well it was clear that you weren't using that character concept in good intentions. Even it's clear that you aren't using it in malicious intent
all of this because he couldnt just say "yeah my bad" lol. Also, the funniest part of the whole thing is that pursuing action in regards to this means that Thor acknowledges that the cockroach is sufficiently representative of him to not qualify as parody lol
In the USA Voice is not a fixed medium, so it's not tangible to copyright. But, your voice used commercially does need your consent to be used. Which in this case both of these things are not true, so pirate softy is mad over nothing.
"unable to hold himself accountable" .. unless it wasnt his fault at all right? because it wasnt.
From the start PS is a character, he is the "Reddit nice guy" by definition... why are people surprised when he was banning people from his slop game on steam, or defended what happened with Godot.
Pirate softwares exposing who he really is. He's also been abusing the copyright system to take down videos exposing how much of a POS he is.
EVEN IF the game did include voice clips of him, or make a joke about him, it is extremely lame to file a DMCA or a "legal complaint", over something so petty. I've lost any respect I may have had for Thor and piratesoftware. He has proven himself to be someone I'd despise. He has no sense of humor, he has an inflated ego, and he is unable to laugh at himself. And he treats other people ingames like a garbage. Tap a mob before he does, and he'll try to grief you into quitting.
2025 i can see pirate software canceled.
Yes my understanding of developer tos is abuse/fraud on steam.
Private will likely get told off for abuse.
Pirate just screwing himself even more, and this being local build and that means nothing as it's not public.
Chronos must be a dumbass to file a claim he didn't even look into 😂😂😂
Lolcow behavior 😂
I knew there was something about Thor I didn’t like.