How Much Can You Really Make Milling Small Diameter Logs?
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Finding out how much money I can make per hour milling small diameter logs on my Woodmizer LT15 Sawmill. I am making lumber out of these Douglas fir logs and keeping track of how much I can cut per hour on this mill.
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Of course the per hour isn't to bad but then there is also the perk of working in such a beautiful place without any annoying coworkers. Also you make a better product than what you can find at a lowes or home depot.
Such a pleasure to see a forestry pro who cares about his land and the quality of his product. Colorado here, we’ve got local wildfires right now and our air looks about like yours unfortunately, smoky and hot as the hubs of perdition. Stay cool!
"In my case, when they made this property they forgot to put the people here" your knowledge and experience i value, but at the end of the day, it's how you say things that i find most refreshing (even when i'm restringing a guitar for a respite during a grueling week and your video's on in the background)
To me, if it is worth your time to mill up, then for me it's worthwhile trying to get some dimensionally correctly sized lumber, that has been dried, slatted, and sorted properly. Not the crap one gets at those big box retailers, or even some of the local 'lumber carriers'. Too bad you can't deliver to SoCal. Maybe I'll have to make a trip north.
Would be so much easier if trees were square.
I'll show myself out.
Wish the grain ran in 1/4 section and not around the Pith, he had 7 days to create the Earth and forgot all about how "A and E" would build with Lumber.
All the best - and thank GOD for nature.
Chinese will find one day how to get square trees and cubic eggs😅😅😅
Always so funny and instructive.
If there was no market, no one would make those portable sawmills.
Not for all or all jobs but perfect for some. Like you said, you like it.😊
I think if you log/mill enough to get into a productive routine 2:02 and have a decent market, you might bring your per hour rate up some. A faster/ bigger mill would definitely help but the downside, takes a crew to keep with the mill. The joy of working in the woods and milling lumber is priceless in my book. Live within your means and enjoy life. 👍
Like your mill processing cool
It's oddly satisfying hearing logs roll
Your videos are wonderful.
Entertaining and informative.
Thanks for taking the time to share part of your life with the world. 👍🇺🇸
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for sharing your experience with your mill. Because of you I’m going to try raising shrimp in Missouri, don’t laugh it has been done. Keep the Videos coming, it still will feed my addiction. God bless you!
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You won't find a better conservationist than a forester, farmer, hunter nor whaler.
Eh.... those last three don't have good track records, tbh.
@@NorthernGoshawk Yes they do. You just need to learn more.
@@adelarsen9776 I'm literally a wildlife biologist. I'll go through them one by one real quick for ya, and only using examples from the U.S.:
1. Farmers are responsible for mass deforestation and untold amounts of erosion and runoff. Fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides et al destroy water quality and wildlife, and water diverted for irrigation threatens fisheries and human drinking water quality. See: Gulf of Mexico dead zone, DDT, Anadramous fish populations.
2. Hunters are responsible for the extinction of several species including the passenger pidgeon and carolina parakeet. They are also responsible for the widespread extirpation of whitetail deer, turkey, elk, beaver, black bear, bison, eastern cougar, gray wolf, grizzly bear, etc. Some of these populations have recovered with the passing of various laws and management, some have not.
Via trophic cascade, hunters are also responsible for the proliferation of mesopredators, which are vectors for diseases that affect wildlife, livestock, and human populations. Rabies, lyme disease, brucellosis, leptospirosis, toxoplasmosis...
And paradoxically, relying on hunters to control Cervid populations in place of top predators is ineffective. Using PA as an example, pre-colonial deer densities were ~11 per square mile, and today, that number exceeds 100 in some places, like Gettysburg. This results in absurd amounts of crop damage and auto accidents (and subsequent unnecessary loss of human life), disease transmission to livestock, and extreme changes in understory habitat and forest regrowth (or lack thereof) via browse lines.
3. Whalers. What's the current population status of the following species, and how did it happen? Right whale (Atlantic/Pacific), sei whale, blue whale, gray whale?
I think that should about cover it.
@@adelarsen9776 I'm tinkering with my reply to get it to show up. Bear with me a bit.
I'm literally a wildlife biologist. I'll go through them one by one real quick, and only using examples from the U.S.:
1. Farmers are responsible for mass deforestation and untold amounts of erosion and runoff. Fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides et al destroy water quality and wildlife, and water diverted for irrigation threatens fisheries and human drinking water quality. See: Gulf of Mexico d-e=a+d zone, DDT, Anadramous fish populations.
2. Hunters are responsible for the extinction of several species including the passenger pidgeon and carolina parakeet. They are also responsible for the widespread extirpation of whitetail deer, turkey, elk, beaver, black bear, bison, eastern cougar, gray wolf, grizzly bear, etc. Some of these populations have recovered with the passing of various laws and management, some have not.
Via trophic cascade, hunters are also responsible for the proliferation of mesopredators, which are vectors for diseases that affect wildlife, livestock, and human populations. Rabies, lyme disease, brucellosis, leptospirosis, toxoplasmosis...
And paradoxically, relying on hunters to control Cervid populations in place of top predators is ineffective. Using PA as an example, pre-colonial deer densities were ~11 per square mile, and today, that number exceeds 100 in some places, like Gettysburg. This results in absurd amounts of crop damage and auto accidents (and subsequent unnecessary loss of human life), disease transmission to livestock, and extreme changes in understory habitat and forest regrowth (or lack thereof) via browse lines.
3. Whalers. What's the current population status of the following species, and how did it happen? Right whale (Atlantic/Pacific), sei whale, blue whale, gray whale?
I think that should about cover it.
@@adelarsen9776 Runoff, erosion, pesticides, herbicides, deforestation (farmers aren't foresters), many species hunted to extinction, many species extirpated, the list goes on. I wrote a more comprehensive 1,000 word reply, but YT isn't showing it.
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Glad you covered everything. Great education for the learners. Not to be a thorn, but insurance costs are relevant also. Everyone always forgets insurance cost!
In a different era of my life, I did some contracting. This like the inverse of the rule of thumb I used sometimes for bidding a job. Materials times three equals bid with 10% wiggle room added. Like the low tops. I wear my Romeos a lot with the shorty socks.
You could mill a huge amount of square coasters in a day, autograph them, and sell them to, well, us !
Well that smoke is coming from up the street from me only a few miles from the big Northern California fire in fact we were on alert there for a couple of days thinking it may turn around and come get us, evidently there were more people than just me praying because it didn't. Sure love your videos, very relaxing and I enjoy laughing along with you.
Great video Mike, I mill my small ones also, my mp260 adds a great value to my 1x materials.
Cut look great 👍
you could sell your off cuts as home depot lumber and make a little extra, just like the big mills do.
I would like this guy as president
Make me glad to be milling red cedar and not pine. But like you tree to board the numbers run a little short even with the cedar bringing 4.00 bf
not having a bunch of people there sounds like a feature, not a bug.
So smooth with the sock pitch! Wait what no promo code or giveaway promotion? You know I had to listen to that pitch. That’s worth something lol. Or are we not worth a promo or giveaway lol. Hope you laughed.
I’m in Louisiana. I’m from California. I thought you were in Humboldt county California. I’ve been watching your channel to see the hilly terrain and how you deal with it.
Can you please make a video guide to identifying Oregon/California trees on your properties from a distance? I think a lot of people might appreciate it!
You mentioned you have to factor in the value of the log at the mill, but maybe you don't. Selling logs to the mill of course also requires that same 1/3 to drop and deck them, and then depending on your distance to the mill, another 1/3 for time loading (and waiting for the trucks to arrive) and haulage, (unless you have your own trucks). So, now you only have 1/3 the value of your timber as a deduction from the example you're giving. A $4,200 load of logs is actually only $1,400 of profit. Unless they're peeler logs, you're probably more accurate with your 1/3 profit by sawing them yourself than you are giving yourself credit for.
Socks in the UK for golf above the knee for most of the year if you Toff at 7:30am but more important boots that do not let water in.
In the 1970s+ in Lancashire UK in winter we went outside in the sun for a Tbreak because it was warmer than the workshop, the forge was not lit since the quenching tank was frozen solid and the steel racks acted like freezer blocks.
We had heating but never used it since the stored steel would sweat and rust.
Never put a mug of Tea down because in a few moments it would be cold.
Your work is such a contrast to my old days it makes me smile. I think your work is harder than mine was. I was 8y when I started work, holding steel while my dad welded and in winter going home with sunburn from the arc. ;-))
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Love this stuff. I guess there's less demand for an 8x8 or 6x6 board? Could build some nice post-and-beam patio trellises out of that!
looks like you have a Flat on the right rear of the pickup.
Consider it a labor of love.
a 2x10x16 ft D.Fur at Lowes in CT has held steady for some time now at $30.76.
Great video 🤙
you remind me of my Grandfather. The way to talk, your sense of humor, even some of your mannerisms. Perhaps you are distant cousins. Or you grew up in a similar area (He was born and raised in extreme northern Ca). or because he worked as a mechanic for a gas and electric company in the west, Or I am just being silly. Regardless, I like your videos. I will never get to work in the forest like you are but it is fun seeing you work the land like you are. Please keep it up, even if you cant get rich off of selling lumbar.
The content is worth all the money you spend!
Squares are rectangles, 4 90 degree angles with parallel sides, but rectangles aren’t squares, 4 equal sides. 😁 Smoke is likely from the Park fire and it’s bad 😞👍🏼👍🏼
That’s right. A square is just a special KIND of rectangle, or more importantly a square is a REALLY special kind of “parallelogram”. I know, now I’m being way too specific for most people of both the English language along with the teachings of math AND geometry skills. But when it comes down to it, my math skills are very poor but my English skills did quite well in school and none of the professors ever had a problem with it. 😊
@@ToddAdams1234 That’s right. A square is just a special KIND of a rectangle, or more importantly, a square is an exceptional kind of “parallelogram.” I know, now I’m being way too specific for most people in both the English language and the teachings of math and geometry skills. But when it comes down to it, my math skills are inferior, but my English skills did quite well in school, and none of the professors ever had a problem with it. FYI
How many dollars per hour does the blade wear and fuel usually cost?
If I were to put away for retirement being self employed I'd need roughly $50/h, before factoring in equipment wear and energy.
Doing a good job with videos. Great entertainment.
Naw, not all rectangles are squares, but all squares are rectangles. A square is a special type of rectangle.
The only thing id add is the aspect of standard versus full size lumber.
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I can cut lumber at standard demention with 5/16" circular saw kerf.
and more or less be on par with a band mill cutting full demention with a 1/8" saw kerf.
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You run a band mill cutting standard size, that pile of lumber would be nearly 1/5 larger.
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Your Videos are very interesting to watch, keep up with the good work!
Greetings from Germany!
Great video of miling wood!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Admire your skills and style... but mostly your humor...😂😂😂😂
That’s why I enjoy sawing others logs. I get paid and they feel like they get a deal. I saw white oak logs and make pretty good right now also or 20’ pine lumber stuff you can’t get in the store for cheap
Hi flower Lady ! 😊
I always have hot sweaty feet whenever working outside all day when it's 100 degrees. Can't understand why that is. I've been watching your videos for awhile now and unlike others you seem to not be a shill so I ordered some of the socks. I hope I have not made a mistake.
Nice video again, thanks
Forgot as to the heat go west young man go west
"There are no people here." Well, that sounds nice!
Better than I might have thought for softwood
This side of the fence I am contemplating if it would be better not milling lumber because of the heat like you have there or not milling lumber because of the thunder storms and downpours like I am dealing with here. Either way, the mill is sitting still right now , but I am running the wood splitter between showers.
At our local building supply your first batch would fetch $100+
Hey man, just found your channel. I’m in Western PA. Are you in Utah? Thanks and keep up the great work you’re doing with the channel! Cya on the next one!
Southern oregon
10:39 this guy cracks me up
i do see your piont on cutting off the end but would it be better to cut the full log to lumber the trim it to length you kill 2 stones at once now you have firewood already split them I do quarter my firewood logs on my sawmill first them to length not letting the full length to put it on the wood splitter
Could you make one with logs 24" and larger?
We love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you do better with 6x6's and other bigger timbers?
Or just THE standard of 2”x’s on anything?
"Rectangles are a form of a square" 🤣 Love his dry sense of humor
Gotta factor in the TH-cam time. 😂😂😂
You don't have to think of it in terms of selling the lumber. If you have building projects, or do woodworking projects, you can think of milling lumber in terms of money saved (or money not spent on buying lumber).
How much per hour was that swatting fly video? 😂
How much did that wood mill cost you to purchase and how long did it take to set it up to do your milling?
How come you don't mill any 2x material? And where are you located?
Good video. Cheers from Vancouver island
How close are you to Eagle Point Oregon I might be interested in your lumber
Your math doesn’t cover, saws, tractors,skidding winches,trucks,trailers, saw mills, wool socks,and most of all, the value of your trees.
I see you’re getting some good use out of your Husky battery saw. I also saw my 120W solar panel made a cameo appearance. I was feeling kinda exposed without my solar panel and the power dropping out like it has. Sorry I asked for it back if you were still using it.
Lol did you have to take off your boots 😂
it would have been worth more as firewood
When the government makes owning a home unaffordable there’s no reason to buy lumber.
You’re driving a Chevy? What’s up with that?
It doesn't really matter nowadays all vehicles are trash. The older Chevy trucks are actually pretty dang good. Being a brand Fanboy never got anyone anywhere except for stranded on the side of the road because they trusted a brand of actually looking into the vehicle and having a real unbiased mechanic check it out.
Not trash talk just an observation. Probably wasn’t even worth mentioning.
@@pauladams3789 I found it to be all in good humor. The answer to the question is "because if you want to arrive in style, a bow tie is required".
I think it's fun to be a fanboy as long as you don't take things too seriously.
Well I am a Ford, Stihl guy. HeHe. But I really could care less.
I just enjoy his videos.
@@pauladams3789 I'm a Chevy and Stihl guy myself. I try not to take myself or anyone else too seriously. Here's one for you....
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Youre not factoring in the 20 years it took to grow the trees! comes out to $0.00000000043 an hour
Do you spend 20 years standing next to your trees telling them bedtime stories?
All rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles . 🤔
You got that backwards. ;)