My impression is Ken is not making fun or delegitimizing this women’s depression I think he’s saying that she can’t use her depression as an excuse for her actions. I agree on that. Being sexual with dolls that are suppose to look/be children is fkin creepy. And she can’t use her depression as a shield from criticism.
I agree. I have seen this "depression made me do it" bs excuse tons of times, and it just never makes sense to me how some people still fall for it, and feels sorry for creeps. Miniladd comes to mind, with his "I was depressed, borderline suicidal back then" when being confronted about being a pedophile and sexually harrassing his underaged fans. Ok, this girl is "romantic" with dolls that look like children, "it's not real children" some would say; i would ask, would you let her babysit your child? Cause i sure as hell wouldn't
It also seems to be an attempt to normalize that sort of behavior, which (especially in light of the fact that they are all obviously portrayed as children) is super not acceptable, and I'm glad Ken brought it up. That's really awesome.
Its a very two sided street. Sometimes people do use it as an excuse for their actions, which is very fkd up. But mental illness sometimes makes you do or not be able to do something. Its hard to know when people are lying or legitimately need help.
True, there are some or few that seems to fit the bill of depending on it due to depression, but onwards it became a norm to alibi. Some of those who alibi are aware they do it due to their supposed depression and is proud of it, but you can see that in a way, they can or have the potentiality to recuperate and stand back on their own. But they chose not to, because of supposed depression of them. Technically it's just a one way ticket out of reality for them. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them, it's just they have the capability and it's a waste, they could've done something better.
@@whogirl1056 The same thing with fictional kid characters, people like to say "it's just a fiction so whatever" but I'm just curious, why a grown person can think that some things irl are absolutely gross and forbidden BUT IN FICTION suddenly it's totally fine to like and support these things? These people just keep pushing boundaries into more and more dangerous territories and they hope nobody will notice, lmao.
I didn't even think about the pedophilic aspect of it until she mentioned it. And then she mentioned it again. And then she said some people look like kids but are adults, trying to justify her attraction to dolls depicting kids Yeah... This not OK...
@@davidwagner3123 The child dolls are cheaper than adult models, also ive checked out the guy who makes the dolls, he mostly makes child dolls not many adults.
It's not that far fetched to assume she could end up on that path anyway. The deeper you dive into sin, the weirder your perversions can get 🤷🏻♀️ Guard your heart
@@divinebeef8660 It is kind of far fetched though. Fantasy is not reality in these cases. People marrying dolls is so strange because they're trying to breach that line and not at the same time. She obviously got attached to the doll as a child and mistook that attachment for romantic love later in her life. Technically speaking, the mind of the doll grew with her, because she's the one that makes up the doll's personality. Also, however freaking weird this all is, in the end it's just a doll and not a child. But yes, I 100% agree with you, that we should guard our hearts though. xD Lord knows this thing's weird and really really bad for her mental health. And it's not ok.
Update: She apparently had some manic moments months after this and destroyed the Kelly doll. She partially blames the hate she was getting from online. She got some help and a boyfriend afterwards. Then they broke up after I think a year I read. She immediatly went back to her Kelly doll and had her remade. So Kelly now looks like a little person instead of a child. She has little breasts and a more adult form. Kellys still a zombie and had no jaw but there's less blood. She and Kelly are in a relationship according to her. She also has a doll boyfriend and multiple zombie doll children with Kelly. Interested story. I still think she needs some serious therapy. But at least Kelly doesn't look like a 9 year old anymore. 🤷♀️ Additional update 10/31/22: Thanks to Admire in the replies of this comment apparently Kelly's getting another new body made of silicone. I guess Kelly's become and full ledge s%x doll. And her and her zombie boyfriend, Robert are now engaged. 😐
lol glad the bf got out. people like this don't need a partner. romantic relationships don't fix shit magically. I don't even have some weird problem like her but I recognise I don't need a romantic partner in my life. you need to work on yourself and be happy in general. rebounding back to the dolls was evident and I'm just surprised it even lasted a year. I hope this woman gets actual proper help.
So dumb people made assumptions and bullied her so much that they ruined her life and she had to restore it. And all that thanks to Ken and his emotions.
@Chocolate Muffin really? Um no. If she had a manic episode she obviously has a mental illness. Don’t blame Ken. There’s A LOT of us out there that was thinking it was weirder than shit before Ken really started reacting.
I love that so much that he went into rage dad mode, and I know he kinda felt like the bad guy having to adress the elephant in the room....but GODDAMN I have so much respect for Ken now!!! Out of all the videos I've watched, this was one of the most genuine and authentic commentaries and I'm glad he went for it!
I thought the dolls were just kinda small at first because they were Halloween decorations or cheaper than full sized ones, but then she started going on about how they weren't *really* kids, implying that she definitely sees them as kids.
They're modeled after children, like, specifically the base doll (under the zombification) is meant to depict a child, like kid mannequins for stores. There's a reason her main love interest is less than half her height and built like an elementary schooler.
She’s not only trying to convince others her dolls aren’t zombie kids, she is also trying to convince herself that what she is doing isn’t wrong. She keeps repeating herself, “they’re not kids” or, “there are people in the world who look like kids but, aren’t.” I believe, deep down, she knows they are zombie KIDS and repeating herself to others is her seeking out validation that what she is doing is okay.
Honestly, this video is one of my favorites BECAUSE Ken shares his opinion with so much conviction. I agree and I think a lot of us do, but even if people disagreed, I think it's so lovely and refreshing to see someone give their honest take on something and not worrying about pandering to their audience. And in this case, it's VERY justified.
I honestly wasn’t even considering anything about them being child dolls until she started defending it, I was focused on the zombie aspect. Then she KEPT defending it. And she obviously made up those ages on the spot. So now… yeah she deserves to, at the very least, be extremely closely monitored near children
Most definitely she probably gets extremely turned on on Halloween or kids are dressed up as zombies. Because she said she sees the dolls as real people to her so that means she is attracted to children she just doesn't want to admit it
I love how you referred to it as Dad Mode because you can tell it really effected him because he has children. It’s strange and wrong anyway but it clearly really grated on him as a father. Xx
people who have followings, create their following because they have personalities and opinions that are agreeable:) we agree with ken because he’s not a bad person but he doesn’t let the BS slide
@@MRboomchongo which is a huge issue with our society. people came to america to live their lives without oppression and judgment and that’s what we ended up being anyways
I agree with Ken a 100%, she just utilices her “depression” as a shield from people saying anything to her, every time she says something about her dolls she says “oh I lost my dad” “oh my depression” and it’s annoying because a lot of people have went through the same and sought out for help for them not ending up like her did
Totally agree like I was abused my whole life and my mother offed herself on my 20th birthday, yet here I am not being attracted to children or things made to look like children
Right? Like it would be a little different if she were like "yeah to you guys they look like kids but I've had Kelly since I was 10 and in my mind they grew with me. I don't see them as kids anymore" but BUT she went for the "I'm not a pedophile" and "they look younger than they are".
Found Felicitiy's socials and she's actually had Kelly altered to look more like a grown woman. The face has been repainted and the body type has been changed to give her a more mature look.. she's still married to a zombie doll though but it's an improvement.. I guess?
It's not really political though. While this woman feels that she loves objects, that literally cannot love her back or give consent or do literally anything, she tries defending herself fir seeing them as kids. She said she doesn't see them as objects, and states that she has side "relationships" with other dolls. This is mental illness. It does seem like if she were unsupervised in a day care with kids about this age she would do some suspicious shit. This is potentially harmful, and it's worrisome. This isn't about politics, this is about someone's wellbeing and how they might evolve into hurting others. This woman looks like she wants to be in a relationship with a young child. She's just handling it very differently and very strangely. The argument that "well, if it doesn't hurt anyone and makes her happy" doesn't apply very easily. Because this behavior could hurt people. She could decide she's tired of dolls. She said so herself, she doesn't see them as dolls, but as people. Who's to say she wouldn't hurt people's kids? She really needs help, and that not political.
By mental illness, I do not mean depression or schizophrenia. I mean she has a misplaced concept of love, and that may stem from her loss of her dad. This is not to excuse her, but to try to make sense of why she's acting like this. She may even be developmentally stuck, feeling like a younger teenager or child. That may explain why she's drawn to things that look like kids.
And he is worried about offending viewers, that maybe this lady is just doing something harmless collecting child zombie dolls. If it doesn't hurt anyone, it's probably ok. There's worse out there. But just like the rest of us, that image is broken when she starts talking about some very weird things and blurring the lines of reality and her wants. That's when shit turns scary. Don't turn things into politics when there isn't a political issue here. Not one politician has ever addressed things like this and no one tries to make laws or restrictions on this. It's about lifestyle. And about safety.
@@kellygreen7236 I was not bringing up politics. Pc is a turn of phrase where I live. It's when a person doesn't tippy toe around a sensitive topic. It's also referred to as not p*ssy footing around the topic. So let me be clear.... This chick is disgusting and should NEVER be allowed near a child. There.... No misunderstanding now
@@kellygreen7236 Say it louder for the people in the back! (Espicially the "Don't turn things into politics when there isn't a political issue here" part)
I wouldn't have cared if it was just the one doll that looked like a child cause she clearly formed an unhealthy bond with it throughout her childhood, probably due to some random trauma or something. That can happen, she had the doll for a long time. But what ISN'T OKAY is the fact that she KEEPS buying dolls that look like children and does basically the same with them. That's where my understanding ends and where it makes me angry. Not to forget she purposefully "makes" them older so they don't get labeled as children. This isn't okay and she seems to know it isn't aswell, even though she tries to convince others and herself that it is. I am totally with you Ken.
As an asian person that has my age repeatedly mistaken by strangers, I think I'd know if somebody is sexually/romantically interested in me if they saw me as a substitute for a minor compared to somebody I formed a bond with that recognise me as an adult (in an environment where other people also recognise me as adults aka friends/family/coworkers etc). Her excuse for 'there are other people that looks like kids' is fking bullshit. First off, those mannequins look like real people. They are clearly made to be depicted as children and forever in time as long as the object survives, its an inanimate child. (It's not the same as your anime waifus or husbandos). She's purposely finding child mannequins and her first thought when she sees one is not 'oh yeah that looks like a 39 yr old', her first thought is sexual desire. so no.
This is not what depression does to a person. No one turned into a pedophile because they're depressed. That whole thing is messed up, there's probably a whole pile of mental illnesses up there. I'm 100% with Ken here, the way no one even mentioned pedophilia but she kept going on and on about it shows that she knows what she's doing is wrong, and it sounds like she's trying to convince herself more than others. No way do I support that, and no way in hell do I support the people who support that. We don't have to normalize everything, some things need to remain in the "that's f-ed up" category. Seek help, people.
Yea belive it or not when I'm going through a depressive episode I don't think: "You know what would help here, a doll that looks like a child". Weird huh?
Right? I was diagnosed with depression last year but have been suffering for a couple of years. No way in hell would I think any depressed person would go to children because of that. It disgusts me that people use it as an excuse.
Agreed. People have different ways of coping, but I believe that this obsession of hers is an entirely separate issue that she connected to her depression, allowing her to justify it to herself. She needs therapy. It's not shameful to get help. No soldier fights a war alone.
@@AnomalyINC I struggle a lot with anxiety and depression... I have an odd obsession with dying/death and panic over the concept daily. What you said really hit me, it's like I needed to hear it. So thanks I guess
Me, First impression : "zombie dolls, freaky, scary" Her : "it's not a kid, i swear, I'm not a pedophile" Me : "now that you mention it....... I didn't see that at first but......hmm.."
it's weirdly comforting the amount of anger that Ken has towards anything potentially pedophilic. i understand that it probably has a lot to do with how he has his own kids and has that fatherly instinct to protect, but on the internet where you hear about celebrities and youtubers being creeps Ken is a huge breath of fresh air.
As soon as she said she considers them as people and not objects I was done, because surely you believe they’re people then, so that makes you believe that they’re real child dolls, so let me break it to you love. You like kids.
Exactly, she sees very little difference between these dolls and real people so who knows if she'll start to harass real kids too? Or if she acted like this in her life already?
I appreciate ken’s honesty in this one. His opinions are his own and he has the right to have these opinions especially when he’s uncomfortable with that lady’s weird relationship with the doll.
@@ethanhenrichs5677 well not to mention Ken had a very valid point. Even if they are inanimate objects and not really children, they are depicted and modeled to look and be children. I believe even the Creator who makes these dolls usually only makes children and specifically has said before that they are children. But the fact that ken actually stood up and said something really says something about him as a person and as a father. But dude it's kind of disgusting to see how many comments are actually backing up this lady.
I'm with you, Ken. I have depression, like a lot of people, but if I started diddling kid dolls I'd expect someone to call me out on it. Not ok. The fact you're a dad just makes your opinion on it heartwarming to me, tbh
This is creepy, SHE is creepy, the CHILD dolls are creepy. Ken is 1000000000% right and should never beat himself up about it. His points were valid. This chick is super concerning and needs some SERIOUS help.
I don’t think ken did nothing wrong in voicing out his opinion on this, and being strong about what he thought about this. Since she clearly has all her dolls looking like children. And keeps reminding the audience that they are not children to her. So I’m glad and hope no one back lashes ken. Since he voiced out his opinion. That many of us viewers feel as well towards the video. :3
I agree 100%! He isn't wrong for voicing his opinion. Because it's his opinion! If we all thought the same and had the same opinion the world would be hella boring!
I don’t think ken did nothing wrong - thats a double negative, so do you think ken did something wrong It shoulve been I dont think ken did something wrong
@@randovid1 ok mr english teacher. Double negative is not wrong in everyday speech, it shows the emphasis and opinion clearer. It is wrong if it is used in formal speech.
It is pretty disturbing that it's a kid doll, even if it is a doll. And the fact that she keeps trying to explain how it's not weird, kinda shows that she knows it's not exactly right that they're depictions of children.
I wonder if her dad sexually abused her as a child. She mentioned something about smelling his hair and stuff when she was little, and how she does that to her dolls now A lot of people get this way from childhood trauma, so I'm really curious if this is her fathers doing
I appreciate Ken's willingness to speak his mind on the topic, I have a feeling a lot more people see the problems with this "relationship" than the one's who are going to defend it.
Right!! She has adult zombie dolls right in her stupid “wedding video”. Then she bought several child dolls as an adult!! She is acting out disgusting fantasies on these dolls. I wouldnt let her within a hundred feet of my kids NO WAY MAAM
She keeps saying just because it looks like a kid doesn’t mean it is one and that she’s attracted to children, BUT she’s literally sexually active with a doll that she treats as her daughter in public, like shopping for little uniforms and rolling her around in the children’s seat of a cart….She could’ve dressed up any old mannequin in a zombie get up and I would’ve not cared, the fact that she actively is buying the smaller CHILDREN sized dolls is weird as hell…
Yess! "It doesn't hurt anyone. It is their way of coping with trauma." No! Stop being an idiot and go see a therapist. People have to stop normalizing this shit....
@@yjeun2639 On tumblr it's gotten to the point, where "Some people??? Do [insert heinous shit]??? To cope???" has become a meme to throw back at those making excuses.
She says “my dolls don’t look like objects, they look like people”. YES. THEY LOOK LIKE KIDS. Which makes this whole thing unsettling. When stating their ages she paused multiple times trying to come up with a random number that would be in the safe zone. She obviously needs a reality check.
@@PokieGirlForever1 I swear people like her are just not into the things that come with connecting with a person because they have their own thoughts, wants, needs, personality and may challenge them in some aspects of their lives. It's a lot like the Greek myth of Pygmalion.
This video is actually the one that made me finally subscribe to Ken... I really respect him for standing strong on his opinion and not bending it out of pity for the girl. I'm glad he isn't excusing pedophilic behavior and is calling it out. Far too many people justify attraction to kids or very kid-like things with mental illness, and it's just.. weird.
@Fun With Minerals are your siblings sexual with their action men dolls? Like you realize the issue is cause she's sexual and romantic with it right. Also it's not cause of the height 😒 it's literally depicted as a child, children have different limb length then adults and rounder faces. And it's the face that you can find dolls like this in spirits and they are labeled as children zombies
Hey I completely agree with you, as this *was* weird but she points that she’s not a pedo bc ppl like to consider her as one and she sorta explained this in the vid (although she should be considered a pedo because she says that she’s attracted to them, and they look like children. It obviously shows that, no matter what she thinks their ages are, she is still attracted to them physically, as children
Mad respect for Ken for pointing out the pure insanity of this clearly disturbing behavior that is being passed off as “ok”, the fact of the matter is some things are just not ok and his response is dead on, we need to stop accepting psychotic behavior as normal in our societies today, insanity is insanity and the bottom line is every single person that exhibits insane behavior needs serious help for the good of others and themselves, Ken thank God you exist and aren’t afraid to tell the straight truth, keep it up 👍
I think she has Aspergers and zombie dolls are her obsession. She has poor social skills and says things most people wouldnt. She seems very childlike to me. She probably only has her doll collection since her dad died. Or maybe the doll possessed her.
No no. You aren't being "that guy". You're 100% correct. Its weird. Being sexually attracted to child dolls is weird. Don't back down to your opinions if you're certain they're correct. Even if you can't always rationalize it in words there are times where you have to stand your ground (not that you couldn't this time. just a general statement). This is definitely one of those times. We can't continually be afraid to hurt others by voicing our opinions. We have to be able to draw a line.
Your right, some of what she says I could respect, but I guess I’ll have to stop somewhere at some point!?! So I’ll stop here! But like PewDiePie I want too see how it ends.
We’re dealing with a mental health crisis of people are trying to cater to people who are perpetually offended by everything. We need to stop trying to justify mental illness because it “doesn’t hurt anyone”.
@@Baconsizzler84 I totally agree... some of this stuff is insane! Even though this woman isn't "hurting anyone else," it's definitely hurting her mental health and wellbeing.
Definitely agree with Ken. She keeps on saying: they are not kids, they are not kids. The fact that she keeps on saying it's not weird or that they aren't kids is a bit suspish.
I didn't even think anything of it until she kept insisting that it's not creepy. Girl is trying to hard and the comment about some people looking like children but are not is really terrifying.
He was trying so hard to hold that rant in’ that when it burst out you could also tell he was so done! Of course this protective father is going to have some choice words about such an …. « interesting » arrangement…..
I remember one girl thought I was one because I listened to michael jackson every now and then. I mean she was off her knockers so I didn't take it too personally but still. Who tf makes that connection?
Ken's community enjoys his Chris Hanson videos, he has nothing to worry about when it comes to not being okay with predators and clear predator like behavior.
@@famousdex1782 she has new children zombie dolls she's "using" as well. If it was just the OG one it wouldn't be as alarming. But she keeps buying new ones that look like children. Its predatory behavior.
@@luckyotaku4002 There's a thin line between fiction and reality and the more people will be accepting for degenerative ideas about fictional kids, the easier it will be to attach these ideas to the real ones.
@@realswobby yea I know there line between fiction and irl like for example me I am into anime character I think some of them cute and things I could be call a weeb or otaku don’t really matter much I used to get make fun of for being attractive to some anime characters when I was In school I just don’t really care if people think that weird if I am attractive to some anime characters
@@realswobby Rubbish . That's the same unsubstantiated claim made against videogames, porn, music, dungeons and dragons and just about every idiotic moral panic in history. You're saying the exact same thing. There isn't a 'thin line' if there was then anybody playing violent games would be killing people all over the place.
@@dolltron6965 You fail to understand that there are some important exceptions from this rule and some boundaries are always needed, especially for younger people. The entertainment doesn't create issues but it can make them stronger.
I don’t know what’s worse, what this woman is doing or the fact that we live in a world where it’s bad to criticize a woman doing something like that….
I commented that she needs serious mental counseling and someone commented that I’m “very phobic”. 😂🤣 I guess I’m guilty as charged. What is the world coming to? 🤷🏻♀️
Nope it is and no matter how bad people want to pretend its not it is 100% okay to criticize people who interact in pedophile behaviour and those who do not see the problem are apart of it
I agree with Ken. The way she keeps explaining how she's not a pedophile. Doesn't that mean that she's kinda knows that it's weird? If you're not a pedophile, you don't have to say that, because you don't do things that can be associated with pedophilia. The problem is where she said she kind of considers them people and is romantically involved with them. Even though they look like children dolls, she just explains it with "there are people who have a dysfunction to look like children, when they're really not" I hope she is just gonna stay happy with her dolls. Kids in zombie costumes avoid this lady please!
There's also nothing stopping her from buying zombie dolls that are actually meant to depict adults as well. I cant find a single excuse to defend this lady for deliberately going and buying several dolls obviously meant to depict children to be 'romantically involved' with unless she just, obviously, is only attracted to the child ones. I'm surprised she didnt try to use the excuse that they died as children (since theyre zombies) but have continued to age mentally without their body changing or something messed up like that. No matter how you look at it, she may not consider herself a pedo because she 'isnt attracted to humans' but this is pedophilic behaviour
This video made me trust Ken even more. If even creepy zombie dolls evoke such anger and protectiveness, you've got rock solid morals on this, and honestly? You're in the right.
Imagine someone not knowing her situation inviting her to a bbq and says "bring ur spouse too" and this chick shows up with a kid size halloween decoration..... I can't. I just cant yall.
If the dolls aren't children to her, why is the main one wearing primary school uniform looking clothes from the kids section at target? whatever she says whoever sold them must have listed them as zombie children online or on the shop stand as they are tiny and to scale...
I like that Ken and Pewds spoke out against it being pedophilia in a way, especially Ken. His dad mode activated. It's so refreshing to see instead of the social justice warrior thing to be accepted by the internet.
How is this not a thing related to kids.. The dolls are literally made to look like CHILDREN, and she does inappropriate things with them. She could buy ADULT zombie dolls, but she doesn't. It's just diet pedophilia, end of story.
@@maffe_distroyer fully agree, what worries me even more is what if she starts seeing people as dolls in the mental state she's in, what could she be capable of doing (I suffer from depression linked to my epilepsy and I absolutely have no romantic feelings towards the dolls in my house - belong to my child), I feel it's a different mental illness.
@@Tsun-sweet so I know more about Felicia than I should… bc we lived in the same town… and trust me the gossip was wild…but the only kid doll, that she has a relationship with, is a Kelly, who Felicia got as a child herself…The rest are their children. Kelly now has an adult body.
Yes, exactly! Ken already noticed that the dolls looked like children but didn't feel weird about it at first. When she became super defensive about it, and when it was pretty obvious that she was making up the dolls' ages on the spot, that's where a lot of people would start to feel that something's off...
I fell down a rabbit hole about this girl awhile back and quick update on her situation as far as I know, she destroyed the original Kelly doll because of backlash from people saying she was a pedophile and got an "adult" version of Kelly made, but she still has all the other zombie dolls (and more now) that still look like kids.
@Jean Mary ITS A LOSE LOSE SITUATION GEEZ IF SHE HAS THE CHILD DOLL YAL DONT LIKE IT IF SHE UPDATES THE DOLL TO AN ADULT YALL SAY HOW THATS MESSED UP ITS A NEVER ENDING CIRCUS WITH YALL
If it were a man with a child-like doll, zombie or not, he would be harassed and ridiculed with no questions asked. Do I think she specifically has ill intent? No, but this is still inappropriate and she really should seek help.
The victim hierarchy is a dangerous game. She needs help. But, there are so many layers in the way that most people won't even try out of fear. Terrible for the ego.
I mean she received the first doll as a child, I totally see where she is coming from but she is too disconnected to see that now as an adult there has to be some sort of change or compromise. The fact that she intentionally bought more child like dolls is even more concerning though.
I like the fact that Ken's audience are indeed mature enough to see how this person is messed up. “ if you’re not hurting someone else it’s fine” does not fly in her case. i am sad for the people supporting her on the original video, don't think i want to know those people
@@rektifyr... if you think it's harmless that someone sexualizes objects physically representing life size children, then you're missing the point. It's not about the dolls, it's about the person's highly questionable mental space and stance towards REAL children.
I never finished watching this episode until now because it felt so messed up, but seeing the update posted I knew I had to come back and I'm so glad I did. Ken's rant was everything I needed
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@@Realbmell It is possible, bone marrow was used to create the first child born from two mothers DNA in 2018. What Lucille meant was that they didn't have a father in the emotional sense. They had a DNA donor but the emotional connection is not there. There is a fundamental absence of a father. You clearly ignored that to make yourself feel smarter
Her: I married a zombie doll Me: eh, a bit weird but ain't hurting anyone Her: Just because she's a child doesn't mean I'm a pedophile Me:..... You've lost me
I agree with them, Ken is absolutely right to have said all of that. And it's true that, "she's not hurting anyone else' only goes so far as Pewds said. No one, not even them was thinking about it until she kept getting defensive for no reason. 🤢
Pedophillia never even crossed my mind until she mentioned it, and became adamant about defending how she wasn't a pedo. That means that she's been told that before and/or that she's being defensive about the obvious. That shit is extremely creepy, and I wouldn't let a child share any sort of space with her. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with having an attachment to certain items or a collection (to a certain extent). However, when it comes to the people we've seen before that were obsessed, even the ones who were apparently sexual with whatever items, they were never adamant about how they weren't pedos or used mental illness or grief as a defense. It may have been mentioned or implied, but it was never a an absolute defense. Her explanation for this zombie kid doll thing crosses a lot of major lines for me, and using actual conditions that have no real correlations or affiliations with her behaviour is pretty damn despicable. I really can't blame Ken for being upset about this one.
Really late reply but I agree with this, being someone who deals with depression I wouldn't want to go out in public with a doll that brings in reactions, I like to gain the least amount of attention and a lot more but even if she has it she didn't have it clearly in this episode.
Yeah I didn’t think the doll was a child till then because she sees the doll as a child secretly even if she wants to see it as not a person? Ifk if you get what I mean lmao
She's using that as a deflection for her obvious creepy actions with dolls that resemble little kids. She wants ppl to feel sorry for her but no one is fooled😬
I love that Ken finally went off on the obvious podophilic aspect of that women's mess! Like, now days mental issues are used as a shield to justify everything and you can't say nothing because then you get the sjw trying to cancel you for stating just the truth.
THIS!! like what would go through her mind if she saw a group of kids dressed as zombies with makeup similar to the doll Kelly and everything,,,, disturbing
You know she is attracted to the children portion of it because she overstated that, "they are not kids...." which to me screams she is guilty of liking that portion of it
I've dealt with depression for a while. Ive never married zombie dolls as a coping mechanism. Impulse buy or retail therapy is one thing, but to marry them? Girl that goes beyond depression
What ever it is, it seem it got worse since her father died. Maybe? I think his death triggered something in her. And Yes, I think she really needs help.
Having seen first hand “this innocent hobby/interest/obsession that doesn’t hurt anyone!” Turn for the worst, multiple times with people….ya, I completely agree with Ken here…. When you start crossing lines and don’t think to stop and turn back, you keep crossing lines…it takes a huge huge amount of self control and discipline not to cross more lines…
I respect Ken for not only voicing his opinion, but stoutly standing by his decision despite the backlash which might follow. As a father myself, I share his view on this woman. 👏🏻👏🏻
@@xerrias Using the word "cringe" to try to explain something you disagree with is such a horrible take. Try maybe to be more mature - btw these dolls are definitely done up in the images of children, regardless of the end result. If you're too thick to grasp the basis of the topic, perhaps you should work on your comprehension skills and come back when you have a better understanding of certain things in context.
@@xerrias they do look like kids. are you blind? their bodies are those of children, and how she went in and gave them 3-something ages and repeadlty said shes not a pedo. she knows. its kids, shes attracted to kids. why are you defending her?
I like how instead of making fun of her depression, Ken actually makes a solid point on how she shouldn’t t use it to justify buying zombie child dolls and having a relationship with them. What a Dad
Although she is not harming anyone, this lady definitely has problems that need to be dealt with. I completely get where Ken is coming from, it has nothing to do with bashing mental health, this lady's sexual attraction to child like dolls is disturbing and needs addressing, hopefully she will get professional help.
Did they ever say if her dad was a sinlge parent? Because i hope she has family somewhere that can help her. Sometimes ppl start small and get bolder if u know what i mean😬
No one is asking him to apologize…no one is gonna cancel you for calling out pedos. This has never been a thing. Let’s stop being dramatic for once lmao
My impression is Ken is not making fun or delegitimizing this women’s depression I think he’s saying that she can’t use her depression as an excuse for her actions. I agree on that. Being sexual with dolls that are suppose to look/be children is fkin creepy. And she can’t use her depression as a shield from criticism.
I agree. I have seen this "depression made me do it" bs excuse tons of times, and it just never makes sense to me how some people still fall for it, and feels sorry for creeps. Miniladd comes to mind, with his "I was depressed, borderline suicidal back then" when being confronted about being a pedophile and sexually harrassing his underaged fans.
Ok, this girl is "romantic" with dolls that look like children, "it's not real children" some would say; i would ask, would you let her babysit your child? Cause i sure as hell wouldn't
It also seems to be an attempt to normalize that sort of behavior, which (especially in light of the fact that they are all obviously portrayed as children) is super not acceptable, and I'm glad Ken brought it up. That's really awesome.
Fr like wtf
Its a very two sided street. Sometimes people do use it as an excuse for their actions, which is very fkd up. But mental illness sometimes makes you do or not be able to do something. Its hard to know when people are lying or legitimately need help.
True, there are some or few that seems to fit the bill of depending on it due to depression, but onwards it became a norm to alibi. Some of those who alibi are aware they do it due to their supposed depression and is proud of it, but you can see that in a way, they can or have the potentiality to recuperate and stand back on their own. But they chose not to, because of supposed depression of them. Technically it's just a one way ticket out of reality for them. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them, it's just they have the capability and it's a waste, they could've done something better.
The fact that she keeps saying “they’re not kids, I’m not a pedophile” just shows that she knows what she’s doing is creepy af
exactly,shes trying a b it too hard to convince us in the end
Exactly! Why does she feel the need to repeat it so many times, the more she says it the more it makes me think otherwise
The fact that she brought up pedophillia was what made me get red flags, you can twist it any way you want girl, but they still dolls of children.
@@whogirl1056 The same thing with fictional kid characters, people like to say "it's just a fiction so whatever" but I'm just curious, why a grown person can think that some things irl are absolutely gross and forbidden BUT IN FICTION suddenly it's totally fine to like and support these things? These people just keep pushing boundaries into more and more dangerous territories and they hope nobody will notice, lmao.
I didn't even think about the pedophilic aspect of it until she mentioned it.
And then she mentioned it again.
And then she said some people look like kids but are adults, trying to justify her attraction to dolls depicting kids
Yeah... This not OK...
She was definitely trying to convince herself and everyone else that she isn't attracted to kids and that's a huge red flag. Ken is definitely right
She isn’t though… she got Kelly when she was a child herself, she recently had her upgraded to an adult body
@@maddygreenb I'm glad she got an adult version. She was acting very sketchy in this video.
@@davidwagner3123 The child dolls are cheaper than adult models, also ive checked out the guy who makes the dolls, he mostly makes child dolls not many adults.
It's not that far fetched to assume she could end up on that path anyway. The deeper you dive into sin, the weirder your perversions can get 🤷🏻♀️ Guard your heart
@@divinebeef8660 It is kind of far fetched though. Fantasy is not reality in these cases. People marrying dolls is so strange because they're trying to breach that line and not at the same time. She obviously got attached to the doll as a child and mistook that attachment for romantic love later in her life. Technically speaking, the mind of the doll grew with her, because she's the one that makes up the doll's personality.
Also, however freaking weird this all is, in the end it's just a doll and not a child. But yes, I 100% agree with you, that we should guard our hearts though. xD Lord knows this thing's weird and really really bad for her mental health. And it's not ok.
Update: She apparently had some manic moments months after this and destroyed the Kelly doll. She partially blames the hate she was getting from online. She got some help and a boyfriend afterwards. Then they broke up after I think a year I read. She immediatly went back to her Kelly doll and had her remade. So Kelly now looks like a little person instead of a child. She has little breasts and a more adult form. Kellys still a zombie and had no jaw but there's less blood. She and Kelly are in a relationship according to her. She also has a doll boyfriend and multiple zombie doll children with Kelly.
Interested story. I still think she needs some serious therapy. But at least Kelly doesn't look like a 9 year old anymore. 🤷♀️
Additional update 10/31/22: Thanks to Admire in the replies of this comment apparently Kelly's getting another new body made of silicone. I guess Kelly's become and full ledge s%x doll. And her and her zombie boyfriend, Robert are now engaged. 😐
Holy crap, thanks for the update bro
lol glad the bf got out. people like this don't need a partner. romantic relationships don't fix shit magically. I don't even have some weird problem like her but I recognise I don't need a romantic partner in my life. you need to work on yourself and be happy in general. rebounding back to the dolls was evident and I'm just surprised it even lasted a year. I hope this woman gets actual proper help.
Sooo she might be fuckin schizophrenic or something in that Ball park-
So dumb people made assumptions and bullied her so much that they ruined her life and she had to restore it. And all that thanks to Ken and his emotions.
@Chocolate Muffin really? Um no. If she had a manic episode she obviously has a mental illness. Don’t blame Ken. There’s A LOT of us out there that was thinking it was weirder than shit before Ken really started reacting.
"I'm not a pedophile!"
BUY ADULT ZOMBIES THEN DAMN
I saw someone said that she did get an adult doll but decided she doesn't want it after coz she's not attracted to it. You know what that means....
I wish I could like this comment multiple times
Preach
👏🏽 👏🏽 thank you ! I’m glad someone said this !!
She brought it when she was 10. Would have been just as weird the other way if she had asked for an 'adult' Zombie doll then, just saying.
The dad mode came in real quick as soon as she said “they’re not kids”
Facts
factual
Haha yup .. love Ken ... he’s right too
I love that so much that he went into rage dad mode, and I know he kinda felt like the bad guy having to adress the elephant in the room....but GODDAMN I have so much respect for Ken now!!! Out of all the videos I've watched, this was one of the most genuine and authentic commentaries and I'm glad he went for it!
@@sabrinag5094 yeahhh
Idc what anyone says, Ken is completely in the right this woman just needs to seek help and not be sexual with child dolls ._.
Mhm
Yup
Yes I agree
Yeah, and people in the comments of the original video seem to be completely ok with it :/
I stand with Ken.. the truth doesn't care if she's offended by it or not 🤣
The fact felix literally has to take over for ken.... You know its a problem. Kens dad energy is what I live for dude.
wow fangirls are really wet on this one
@@ChocolateMuffin308 Dads are in season. Apparently, being an emotionally stable adult makes you more attractive than mentally Ill unstable adult.
@@ChocolateMuffin308 and Clearly ur triggered
@@ChocolateMuffin308 go get laid and shut up.
@@ChocolateMuffin308Found the pred!
Felix struggling to not misgender a zombie doll is very funny to me
@The Maelström ik what video ur talking about, but you do realize he was just making a joke in that video..
@The Maelström I assume its trolling cuz of the bold font
It’s repulsing this is not life with the mob controlling what the F you call a zombie doll
@@Berryations maybe... and consider this... he was just trying to be polite
@@LM-MMM I once trekked through the road to hell. It was very nicely paved. I hear they're expanding it.
Children shouldn't be sexualized, not even in doll form. End of story.
@Fun With Minerals zombies are human corpses so she's also going into necrophilia so it's worse
@Meri Asin what
@@cvrrentz they're talking about op pfp
A man was arrested for having child dolls. I don't think this is much different.
Dolls cannot legally give consent until they are 18 in the US.
Ken is feeling some type of way about this woman. He is correct.
I just got u to 1k likes and it was super satisfying 😂😂👌🏼💝
I gotta wholeheartedly agree
Indeed
As a parent this makes me sick. Could you imagine if she were a man?!? So wrong!
This man has kids, this must hit different to Ken.
I thought the dolls were just kinda small at first because they were Halloween decorations or cheaper than full sized ones, but then she started going on about how they weren't *really* kids, implying that she definitely sees them as kids.
They're modeled after children, like, specifically the base doll (under the zombification) is meant to depict a child, like kid mannequins for stores.
There's a reason her main love interest is less than half her height and built like an elementary schooler.
She’s probably just heard other people call her a pedophile bc of her being into her dolls
Felix: doesn't want to talk about marzia farting
Also felix:throws his sister under the fart bus
... or the fart plane :)
He's a smart man. - a married woman
The wrath of a wife vs the wrath of a sister. No contest.
Lmfao that was hilarious
It’s not the same 😂 siblings bicker all the time and throw each other under the bus but you can’t do that with your significant other 💀
She’s not only trying to convince others her dolls aren’t zombie kids, she is also trying to convince herself that what she is doing isn’t wrong. She keeps repeating herself, “they’re not kids” or, “there are people in the world who look like kids but, aren’t.” I believe, deep down, she knows they are zombie KIDS and repeating herself to others is her seeking out validation that what she is doing is okay.
That's how you make yourself believe the story you made up, repetition.
She needs some serious psychological counseling.
Also how aggressively she says those things too
I totally agree with this!
She’s over compensating
Yeah. Standing with Ken on this one. Nothing about what she’s doing is acceptable but the kid thing damn sure isn’t. People. See a therapist. Damn.
Honestly, this video is one of my favorites BECAUSE Ken shares his opinion with so much conviction. I agree and I think a lot of us do, but even if people disagreed, I think it's so lovely and refreshing to see someone give their honest take on something and not worrying about pandering to their audience. And in this case, it's VERY justified.
I honestly wasn’t even considering anything about them being child dolls until she started defending it, I was focused on the zombie aspect. Then she KEPT defending it. And she obviously made up those ages on the spot. So now… yeah she deserves to, at the very least, be extremely closely monitored near children
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don’t forget cemeteries
@@wack5142 trueee
Most definitely she probably gets extremely turned on on Halloween or kids are dressed up as zombies. Because she said she sees the dolls as real people to her so that means she is attracted to children she just doesn't want to admit it
Me: these dolls are epic looking-
Her: I'm not a pedophile!
Me: (0_o) OooooK?
Ken rants are gold cause he actually says what everyone is thinking
True. And he said things that others are afraid to due to cancel culture.
Exactly cause pew was trying to stop him making it kinda awkward
@@katanae2918
Not really. He was just saying to be careful so he wouldn't get cancelled. Because he agreed with Ken in the end.
@MunsterGal
True
I mean we all know pewds would say the same shit if he wouldnt get chased off youtube for it
nah I agree with Ken’s dad mode, and her being like “I’m not a pedo” over and over kinda says something
I love how you referred to it as Dad Mode because you can tell it really effected him because he has children. It’s strange and wrong anyway but it clearly really grated on him as a father. Xx
If a person constantly has to defend what they are doing with "im not a pedo" they should probably reconsider what they are doing lol
She had the Kelly doll since she was 10, maybe all her other dolls were from childhood as well so that's why they're all child-like dolls.
Facts. You don't get that defensive and constantly say "I'm not a pedophile...They aren't kids" unless there is some DEEP subconscious guilt
Yeah exactly, like sis just came out and kept saying “anD NO I aM nOt a PeDO”
"you probably wear gloves when you workout"
"I don't.. because I lost them"
that was some good comedy
Funny how Ken thinks he’s gonna get a lot of backlash but in reality the majority of us agree with him.
people who have followings, create their following because they have personalities and opinions that are agreeable:) we agree with ken because he’s not a bad person but he doesn’t let the BS slide
His fans agree with him largely. I think Ken is concerned about the SJWs & Journalists who watch big TH-camrs all day just to cancel them.
Yep!
@@MRboomchongo which is a huge issue with our society. people came to america to live their lives without oppression and judgment and that’s what we ended up being anyways
@@MRboomchongo obviously I’ve never heard him use sjw before and not ironic
I agree with Ken a 100%, she just utilices her “depression” as a shield from people saying anything to her, every time she says something about her dolls she says “oh I lost my dad” “oh my depression” and it’s annoying because a lot of people have went through the same and sought out for help for them not ending up like her did
Totally agree like I was abused my whole life and my mother offed herself on my 20th birthday, yet here I am not being attracted to children or things made to look like children
Exactly
Exactly. What you went through isn't an excuse about your actions. At all.
She did* sorry that was annoying me
I’m depressed. I don’t do stuff with plastic zombie kids
She's trying awfully hard to convince the audience (and herself) that the dolls aren't depictions of children, eventhough they clearly are. Big yikes.
Right? Like it would be a little different if she were like "yeah to you guys they look like kids but I've had Kelly since I was 10 and in my mind they grew with me. I don't see them as kids anymore" but BUT she went for the "I'm not a pedophile" and "they look younger than they are".
@@Mirkat2011 exactly what i was thinking i understand if she thought they grew with her coz that makes sense and if thats true she shouldn’t said it
yikes forever
Found Felicitiy's socials and she's actually had Kelly altered to look more like a grown woman. The face has been repainted and the body type has been changed to give her a more mature look.. she's still married to a zombie doll though but it's an improvement.. I guess?
@@c8graphy what about the other 10 dolls who all look like little children?
I keep coming back to watch Ken rage over and over. I like seeing him not worry about being pc and saying what all of us would.
It's not really political though. While this woman feels that she loves objects, that literally cannot love her back or give consent or do literally anything, she tries defending herself fir seeing them as kids. She said she doesn't see them as objects, and states that she has side "relationships" with other dolls. This is mental illness. It does seem like if she were unsupervised in a day care with kids about this age she would do some suspicious shit. This is potentially harmful, and it's worrisome. This isn't about politics, this is about someone's wellbeing and how they might evolve into hurting others. This woman looks like she wants to be in a relationship with a young child. She's just handling it very differently and very strangely. The argument that "well, if it doesn't hurt anyone and makes her happy" doesn't apply very easily. Because this behavior could hurt people. She could decide she's tired of dolls. She said so herself, she doesn't see them as dolls, but as people. Who's to say she wouldn't hurt people's kids? She really needs help, and that not political.
By mental illness, I do not mean depression or schizophrenia. I mean she has a misplaced concept of love, and that may stem from her loss of her dad. This is not to excuse her, but to try to make sense of why she's acting like this. She may even be developmentally stuck, feeling like a younger teenager or child. That may explain why she's drawn to things that look like kids.
And he is worried about offending viewers, that maybe this lady is just doing something harmless collecting child zombie dolls. If it doesn't hurt anyone, it's probably ok. There's worse out there. But just like the rest of us, that image is broken when she starts talking about some very weird things and blurring the lines of reality and her wants. That's when shit turns scary. Don't turn things into politics when there isn't a political issue here. Not one politician has ever addressed things like this and no one tries to make laws or restrictions on this. It's about lifestyle. And about safety.
@@kellygreen7236 I was not bringing up politics. Pc is a turn of phrase where I live. It's when a person doesn't tippy toe around a sensitive topic. It's also referred to as not p*ssy footing around the topic. So let me be clear.... This chick is disgusting and should NEVER be allowed near a child. There.... No misunderstanding now
@@kellygreen7236 Say it louder for the people in the back!
(Espicially the "Don't turn things into politics when there isn't a political issue here" part)
I wouldn't have cared if it was just the one doll that looked like a child cause she clearly formed an unhealthy bond with it throughout her childhood, probably due to some random trauma or something. That can happen, she had the doll for a long time. But what ISN'T OKAY is the fact that she KEEPS buying dolls that look like children and does basically the same with them. That's where my understanding ends and where it makes me angry. Not to forget she purposefully "makes" them older so they don't get labeled as children. This isn't okay and she seems to know it isn't aswell, even though she tries to convince others and herself that it is. I am totally with you Ken.
Well said!
The fact she keeps repeating “i’m not a pedofile” and keeps repeating the dolls’ “ages” shows she knows it’s not okay, it’s creepy and morally wrong.
100%. A 10 yr old pretending to "love" a child doll is weird, but when you're an adult continuing that behavior?
As an asian person that has my age repeatedly mistaken by strangers, I think I'd know if somebody is sexually/romantically interested in me if they saw me as a substitute for a minor compared to somebody I formed a bond with that recognise me as an adult (in an environment where other people also recognise me as adults aka friends/family/coworkers etc). Her excuse for 'there are other people that looks like kids' is fking bullshit. First off, those mannequins look like real people. They are clearly made to be depicted as children and forever in time as long as the object survives, its an inanimate child. (It's not the same as your anime waifus or husbandos). She's purposely finding child mannequins and her first thought when she sees one is not 'oh yeah that looks like a 39 yr old', her first thought is sexual desire. so no.
yep, if she just stuck with that one, I wouldn't care
This is not what depression does to a person. No one turned into a pedophile because they're depressed. That whole thing is messed up, there's probably a whole pile of mental illnesses up there. I'm 100% with Ken here, the way no one even mentioned pedophilia but she kept going on and on about it shows that she knows what she's doing is wrong, and it sounds like she's trying to convince herself more than others. No way do I support that, and no way in hell do I support the people who support that. We don't have to normalize everything, some things need to remain in the "that's f-ed up" category. Seek help, people.
Agreed
Yea belive it or not when I'm going through a depressive episode I don't think: "You know what would help here, a doll that looks like a child". Weird huh?
Right? I was diagnosed with depression last year but have been suffering for a couple of years. No way in hell would I think any depressed person would go to children because of that. It disgusts me that people use it as an excuse.
Agreed. People have different ways of coping, but I believe that this obsession of hers is an entirely separate issue that she connected to her depression, allowing her to justify it to herself.
She needs therapy. It's not shameful to get help. No soldier fights a war alone.
@@AnomalyINC I struggle a lot with anxiety and depression... I have an odd obsession with dying/death and panic over the concept daily.
What you said really hit me, it's like I needed to hear it.
So thanks I guess
Me, First impression : "zombie dolls, freaky, scary"
Her : "it's not a kid, i swear, I'm not a pedophile"
Me : "now that you mention it....... I didn't see that at first but......hmm.."
my exact thoughts lmaoo
yeah whenever she kept mentioning that the dolls weren't kids, I felt really uncomfortable
I too was oblivious to the fact it was a child doll until she brought attention to it. I was too busy being weirded out by the zombie face.
it's weirdly comforting the amount of anger that Ken has towards anything potentially pedophilic. i understand that it probably has a lot to do with how he has his own kids and has that fatherly instinct to protect, but on the internet where you hear about celebrities and youtubers being creeps Ken is a huge breath of fresh air.
As soon as she said she considers them as people and not objects I was done, because surely you believe they’re people then, so that makes you believe that they’re real child dolls, so let me break it to you love. You like kids.
I came to say EXACTLY this.
Exactly, she sees very little difference between these dolls and real people so who knows if she'll start to harass real kids too? Or if she acted like this in her life already?
She has an adult version of Kelly now
@@muffinlove6133 So what? What about the other ones? Apparently she returned some adult looking doll she bought bc she said "it doesn't turn her on".
@@muffinlove6133 because that makes it so much better? She's insane and needs help or to be locked faaaaaaar away from children
I appreciate ken’s honesty in this one. His opinions are his own and he has the right to have these opinions especially when he’s uncomfortable with that lady’s weird relationship with the doll.
Men being protective of children is so wholesome. In whatever form that may be.
Yeah, it's refreshing to see.
@@ethanhenrichs5677 how is it refreshing? It's pretty common to say the least
@@john-ek9gv
Well, not from bigger TH-camrs often due to them might be being cancelled.
@@ethanhenrichs5677 yeah I agree with that
@@ethanhenrichs5677 well not to mention Ken had a very valid point. Even if they are inanimate objects and not really children, they are depicted and modeled to look and be children. I believe even the Creator who makes these dolls usually only makes children and specifically has said before that they are children. But the fact that ken actually stood up and said something really says something about him as a person and as a father. But dude it's kind of disgusting to see how many comments are actually backing up this lady.
I'm with you, Ken. I have depression, like a lot of people, but if I started diddling kid dolls I'd expect someone to call me out on it. Not ok.
The fact you're a dad just makes your opinion on it heartwarming to me, tbh
The dad energy is strong and I approve 100%
This is creepy, SHE is creepy, the CHILD dolls are creepy. Ken is 1000000000% right and should never beat himself up about it. His points were valid. This chick is super concerning and needs some SERIOUS help.
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I don’t think ken did nothing wrong in voicing out his opinion on this, and being strong about what he thought about this. Since she clearly has all her dolls looking like children. And keeps reminding the audience that they are not children to her. So I’m glad and hope no one back lashes ken. Since he voiced out his opinion. That many of us viewers feel as well towards the video. :3
I agree 100%! He isn't wrong for voicing his opinion. Because it's his opinion! If we all thought the same and had the same opinion the world would be hella boring!
I don’t think ken did nothing wrong - thats a double negative, so do you think ken did something wrong
It shoulve been I dont think ken did something wrong
@@trashleighinkable and tbh he’s a dad, and the way she keeps addressing that she’s not a pedo really flipped his dad self
@@randovid1 ok mr english teacher. Double negative is not wrong in everyday speech, it shows the emphasis and opinion clearer. It is wrong if it is used in formal speech.
@@wahyudyatmika5119 but i thought he actually meant it that way. i was confused needless to say..
Ken's anger was really genuine and impressive to see.
He's such a daddy
@@karlohaze5304 ayo-
@@karlohaze5304 yeah he is ;)
same. I love Ken anyway and this made me love him even more
Not surprising though. Do you watch his To Catch a Predator videos? Even though they make fun of the guys, he gets angry in those too.
After watching this. I would trust my children with Ken. 100%
You shouldn't trust your children with anyone, no matter how nice and trusting they seem.
@@KrystalMoonstoneUniverseDang guess we should remove babysitting and kindergartens
It is pretty disturbing that it's a kid doll, even if it is a doll. And the fact that she keeps trying to explain how it's not weird, kinda shows that she knows it's not exactly right that they're depictions of children.
If you find this disturbing, don't google Anatoly Moskvin
exactly, like she tries to justify it and gave them different ages
@@bbasil1312 isnt that the guy who made children’s corpses into dolls?😬
I wonder if her dad sexually abused her as a child.
She mentioned something about smelling his hair and stuff when she was little, and how she does that to her dolls now
A lot of people get this way from childhood trauma, so I'm really curious if this is her fathers doing
@@kdmac8110 true, tbh you never know how something like this happens... it's so sad if she truly is a victim herself
Ken has kids. And I totally understand why he feels that way.
Yeah, I'm with you. Attraction to things that look like children is not a symptom of depression.
Simply put!
Periodt.
It's a cause of depression for sure though.
As someone who’s clinically diagnosed, I can confirm that depression doesn’t cause attraction to children.
Yes!! This!
I appreciate Ken's willingness to speak his mind on the topic, I have a feeling a lot more people see the problems with this "relationship" than the one's who are going to defend it.
“Kelly likes broccoli” led to another golden tangent by Ken & Felix. Y’all need to podcast cuz your banter is awesome
they used to have one lol
The BroKen podcast! Man that takes me back
If they brought back the BroKen omg... such memories
RIP BroKen :(
I want to know how she found out how Kelly likes broccoli
Her: “They’re not kids theyre 38!”
Ken: *Papa Bear mode activate*
"I know officer that she looks like she's 13 and she probably is 13, but she said she's 26! I swear I'm not a pedophile!"
@@XanderRaidon every predator caught by Chris Hansen ever
The fact that she has ADULT looking horror dolls but she is romantically involved with the ones that depict CHILDREN is what creeps me out.
OMG exactly. . . . . .Like her having Adult dolls but choosing the more child dolls is weird.
Right!! She has adult zombie dolls right in her stupid “wedding video”. Then she bought several child dolls as an adult!! She is acting out disgusting fantasies on these dolls. I wouldnt let her within a hundred feet of my kids NO WAY MAAM
As it should.
🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
I think she needs help. She's crazy. I'm afraid that there might be real children instead of dolls. Omg...
The part where Felix just starts going "be careful, ken" will never not be hilarious.
This one is a classic.
She keeps saying just because it looks like a kid doesn’t mean it is one and that she’s attracted to children, BUT she’s literally sexually active with a doll that she treats as her daughter in public, like shopping for little uniforms and rolling her around in the children’s seat of a cart….She could’ve dressed up any old mannequin in a zombie get up and I would’ve not cared, the fact that she actively is buying the smaller CHILDREN sized dolls is weird as hell…
Well at least she got that doll at 10. It's more the other dolls that's disturbing.
it's like being sexual with like an american girl doll like that wouldn't be okay
But it is a doll, not a person
@@wazigeavondjes I mean you are correct but its a doll with the imagery of a child which is still not okay
Well said
Seeing Pewdiepie saying “Be careful” then break his shit laughing is everything XD
i’m so over hearing people use their mental health as an excuse for the weird, unreasonable shit they do.
Yess! "It doesn't hurt anyone. It is their way of coping with trauma." No! Stop being an idiot and go see a therapist. People have to stop normalizing this shit....
@@yjeun2639 nah lol they really dont. halmark of humanity; weird shit.
@@yjeun2639 On tumblr it's gotten to the point, where "Some people??? Do [insert heinous shit]??? To cope???" has become a meme to throw back at those making excuses.
Amen!!!
deal with it mrs suffocation
"You're being a bully. But you're being a creep, ok."
Yes, thank you!! 👏👏👏
She says “my dolls don’t look like objects, they look like people”. YES. THEY LOOK LIKE KIDS. Which makes this whole thing unsettling. When stating their ages she paused multiple times trying to come up with a random number that would be in the safe zone. She obviously needs a reality check.
Yup I caught onto that too. So weird
She also said, she's not attracted to people???
@@PokieGirlForever1 I swear people like her are just not into the things that come with connecting with a person because they have their own thoughts, wants, needs, personality and may challenge them in some aspects of their lives. It's a lot like the Greek myth of Pygmalion.
Ikr
Ken’s screams are scarier than the actual video
Nah , The dolls are way scary
Why do I see u everywhere
WARNING I am the unprettiest human YTer worldwide. Take the hint, dear sh
I find it relaxing. Kind of like white noise
The screams of a dad
I respect Ken’s brutal honesty about her, he’s so correct tbh this whole thing is fucked on so many levels
This video is actually the one that made me finally subscribe to Ken... I really respect him for standing strong on his opinion and not bending it out of pity for the girl. I'm glad he isn't excusing pedophilic behavior and is calling it out. Far too many people justify attraction to kids or very kid-like things with mental illness, and it's just.. weird.
If it wasn't about them being children, then why didn't she buy adult zombie dolls? You're 100% right Ken, this isn't okay.
If she says she is not a pedophile, why not just buy ADULT zombie dolls instead?!
I wonder how much an adult sized zombie doll would cost
@Fun With Minerals are your siblings sexual with their action men dolls? Like you realize the issue is cause she's sexual and romantic with it right. Also it's not cause of the height 😒 it's literally depicted as a child, children have different limb length then adults and rounder faces. And it's the face that you can find dolls like this in spirits and they are labeled as children zombies
@Fun With Minerals no they're action 'men' and they look as such. Wait what about your sibling?? 🥴
@Fun With Minerals no they're action 'men' and they look as such. Wait what about your sibling?? 🥴
@@xerrias She had about 6 kid dolls, she probably coulda got 3 adult zombies for the same price
Her: "I'M NOT A PEDOPHILE!"
Ooookay...? Why did you point that out? Why are you so defensive about it? Kinda weird for me and creeps me out.
Hey I completely agree with you, as this *was* weird but she points that she’s not a pedo bc ppl like to consider her as one and she sorta explained this in the vid (although she should be considered a pedo because she says that she’s attracted to them, and they look like children. It obviously shows that, no matter what she thinks their ages are, she is still attracted to them physically, as children
yeah.. probably because she knows a lot of people come to that assumption
i didnt even think about that until she said it. i just assumed most dolls would be that size
Yeah, this is super uncomfortable.
Mad respect for Ken for pointing out the pure insanity of this clearly disturbing behavior that is being passed off as “ok”, the fact of the matter is some things are just not ok and his response is dead on, we need to stop accepting psychotic behavior as normal in our societies today, insanity is insanity and the bottom line is every single person that exhibits insane behavior needs serious help for the good of others and themselves, Ken thank God you exist and aren’t afraid to tell the straight truth, keep it up 👍
I think she has Aspergers and zombie dolls are her obsession. She has poor social skills and says things most people wouldnt. She seems very childlike to me. She probably only has her doll collection since her dad died. Or maybe the doll possessed her.
No no. You aren't being "that guy". You're 100% correct. Its weird. Being sexually attracted to child dolls is weird. Don't back down to your opinions if you're certain they're correct. Even if you can't always rationalize it in words there are times where you have to stand your ground (not that you couldn't this time. just a general statement). This is definitely one of those times. We can't continually be afraid to hurt others by voicing our opinions. We have to be able to draw a line.
Your right, some of what she says I could respect, but I guess I’ll have to stop somewhere at some point!?! So I’ll stop here! But like PewDiePie I want too see how it ends.
We’re dealing with a mental health crisis of people are trying to cater to people who are perpetually offended by everything. We need to stop trying to justify mental illness because it “doesn’t hurt anyone”.
@@Baconsizzler84 I totally agree... some of this stuff is insane! Even though this woman isn't "hurting anyone else," it's definitely hurting her mental health and wellbeing.
People need to realize this now more than ever
Pedophobia!
Definitely agree with Ken. She keeps on saying: they are not kids, they are not kids. The fact that she keeps on saying it's not weird or that they aren't kids is a bit suspish.
especially when she blurted I'm not a pedophile
@@GoddessNyx2024 I know right?! So creepy and wrong.
I didn't even think anything of it until she kept insisting that it's not creepy. Girl is trying to hard and the comment about some people looking like children but are not is really terrifying.
He was trying so hard to hold that rant in’ that when it burst out you could also tell he was so done! Of course this protective father is going to have some choice words about such an …. « interesting » arrangement…..
Felix: "I don't like this video"
The perfect summary.
I cringed when she said some adults looks like kids after she kept saying she’s not a pedophile and gave fake ages to the dolls.
Things that non sus people don’t usually have to clarify: “I’m not a pedophile!”😂🥴
I remember one girl thought I was one because I listened to michael jackson every now and then. I mean she was off her knockers so I didn't take it too personally but still. Who tf makes that connection?
Wait that’s not normal😳
For those who don’t know, I’m joking
@@LargestLuke I don't believe you
@@shaniawilkinson7620 LMFAO
EXACTLYYY 👏👏👏👏👏
Ken's community enjoys his Chris Hanson videos, he has nothing to worry about when it comes to not being okay with predators and clear predator like behavior.
💯
Predator? That zombie is probably older than you
@@famousdex1782 she has new children zombie dolls she's "using" as well. If it was just the OG one it wouldn't be as alarming. But she keeps buying new ones that look like children. Its predatory behavior.
Ken's right,in regards to them being children.If anyone finds his opinion offensive,need to take a long hard look at themselves.
At least they not real people 😂 if they was that would to much for me to handle
@@luckyotaku4002 There's a thin line between fiction and reality and the more people will be accepting for degenerative ideas about fictional kids, the easier it will be to attach these ideas to the real ones.
@@realswobby yea I know there line between fiction and irl like for example me I am into anime character I think some of them cute and things I could be call a weeb or otaku don’t really matter much I used to get make fun of for being attractive to some anime characters when I was In school I just don’t really care if people think that weird if I am attractive to some anime characters
@@realswobby Rubbish . That's the same unsubstantiated claim made against videogames, porn, music, dungeons and dragons and just about every idiotic moral panic in history. You're saying the exact same thing. There isn't a 'thin line' if there was then anybody playing violent games would be killing people all over the place.
@@dolltron6965 You fail to understand that there are some important exceptions from this rule and some boundaries are always needed, especially for younger people. The entertainment doesn't create issues but it can make them stronger.
Massive respect for Ken and Felix the more I watch these videos. Thank you Ken for just calling out how wrong this is!!
I don’t know what’s worse, what this woman is doing or the fact that we live in a world where it’s bad to criticize a woman doing something like that….
NUTCASE EMPOWERMENT
FAX
I commented that she needs serious mental counseling and someone commented that I’m “very phobic”. 😂🤣 I guess I’m guilty as charged. What is the world coming to? 🤷🏻♀️
Nope it is and no matter how bad people want to pretend its not it is 100% okay to criticize people who interact in pedophile behaviour and those who do not see the problem are apart of it
This... 100%
I agree with Ken.
The way she keeps explaining how she's not a pedophile. Doesn't that mean that she's kinda knows that it's weird? If you're not a pedophile, you don't have to say that, because you don't do things that can be associated with pedophilia.
The problem is where she said she kind of considers them people and is romantically involved with them. Even though they look like children dolls, she just explains it with "there are people who have a dysfunction to look like children, when they're really not"
I hope she is just gonna stay happy with her dolls. Kids in zombie costumes avoid this lady please!
And its not just the fact they look like children. It's the way she treats them like children too.
There's also nothing stopping her from buying zombie dolls that are actually meant to depict adults as well. I cant find a single excuse to defend this lady for deliberately going and buying several dolls obviously meant to depict children to be 'romantically involved' with unless she just, obviously, is only attracted to the child ones. I'm surprised she didnt try to use the excuse that they died as children (since theyre zombies) but have continued to age mentally without their body changing or something messed up like that. No matter how you look at it, she may not consider herself a pedo because she 'isnt attracted to humans' but this is pedophilic behaviour
I feel like she is just a weirdo who lives in a fantasy. I doubt that she is a threat to anyone
This is why I love ken, he’s honest. When he has a problem he calls it out, instead of being fake for the internet
Fr so many people try to be “nonjudgmental” but what they’re really doing is trying not to get hate from their fans who don’t agree
She's not hurting anybody unlike ken who's having a bunch of kids in an already overpopulated earth
This video made me trust Ken even more. If even creepy zombie dolls evoke such anger and protectiveness, you've got rock solid morals on this, and honestly? You're in the right.
Odd how when she lists their ages, "She's 38, he's 37, she's. . . 39" like she definitely didn't just count upwards so they _seem_ older
Is like the guys on Hansen v. Predator "i thought she was 18" like that dosnt make it ok lol the lady in this vid creepy at.
thats exactly what i thought when i heard her say that stuff
Imagine someone not knowing her situation inviting her to a bbq and says "bring ur spouse too" and this chick shows up with a kid size halloween decoration..... I can't. I just cant yall.
I'm glad you were honest about your disgust Ken. The world needs more dads like you.
Its actually super refreshing seeing someone stop the progressive acceptance of certain fetishes .-.
My heart feels warm when natural father instincts come out to protect children. Ken is such a gem. 💗
If the dolls aren't children to her, why is the main one wearing primary school uniform looking clothes from the kids section at target? whatever she says whoever sold them must have listed them as zombie children online or on the shop stand as they are tiny and to scale...
Idk..maybe thts the clothes tht fit Kelly?
Yeah the kid size it what fits the doll. BUT the school outfit is definitely a sign
I like that Ken and Pewds spoke out against it being pedophilia in a way, especially Ken. His dad mode activated. It's so refreshing to see instead of the social justice warrior thing to be accepted by the internet.
Since they're dolls I didn't really think of this as a thing relating to kids, until she went on about how they aren't kids for quite a while.
but she said they are PEOPLE to her , are not longer dolls for her mind , and that is a big red flag
How is this not a thing related to kids.. The dolls are literally made to look like CHILDREN, and she does inappropriate things with them. She could buy ADULT zombie dolls, but she doesn't. It's just diet pedophilia, end of story.
@@maffe_distroyer fully agree, what worries me even more is what if she starts seeing people as dolls in the mental state she's in, what could she be capable of doing (I suffer from depression linked to my epilepsy and I absolutely have no romantic feelings towards the dolls in my house - belong to my child), I feel it's a different mental illness.
@@Tsun-sweet so I know more about Felicia than I should… bc we lived in the same town… and trust me the gossip was wild…but the only kid doll, that she has a relationship with, is a Kelly, who Felicia got as a child herself…The rest are their children. Kelly now has an adult body.
Yes, exactly! Ken already noticed that the dolls looked like children but didn't feel weird about it at first. When she became super defensive about it, and when it was pretty obvious that she was making up the dolls' ages on the spot, that's where a lot of people would start to feel that something's off...
This video makes me feel bad-touched, like I need a thousand showers at flesh melting temperatures.
I fell down a rabbit hole about this girl awhile back and quick update on her situation as far as I know, she destroyed the original Kelly doll because of backlash from people saying she was a pedophile and got an "adult" version of Kelly made, but she still has all the other zombie dolls (and more now) that still look like kids.
Damn...can you give some links?
links?
She got an adult version? Well, it's a better step than before. I hope she is doing much better.
@Jean Mary Atleast she got an adult version. It's better imo, she gotta leave her past somehow
@Jean Mary ITS A LOSE LOSE SITUATION GEEZ IF SHE HAS THE CHILD DOLL YAL DONT LIKE IT IF SHE UPDATES THE DOLL TO AN ADULT YALL SAY HOW THATS MESSED UP ITS A NEVER ENDING CIRCUS WITH YALL
If it were a man with a child-like doll, zombie or not, he would be harassed and ridiculed with no questions asked. Do I think she specifically has ill intent? No, but this is still inappropriate and she really should seek help.
very elegantly put, this sums up what ken is saying.
The victim hierarchy is a dangerous game. She needs help. But, there are so many layers in the way that most people won't even try out of fear. Terrible for the ego.
@@ChipChapChop yeah I wonder if her dad or someone was predatory towards her at some point and that's how she ended up this way
I mean she received the first doll as a child, I totally see where she is coming from but she is too disconnected to see that now as an adult there has to be some sort of change or compromise. The fact that she intentionally bought more child like dolls is even more concerning though.
She’s a wack job that must stay the hell away from all kids.
I like the fact that Ken's audience are indeed mature enough to see how this person is messed up. “ if you’re not hurting someone else it’s fine” does not fly in her case. i am sad for the people supporting her on the original video, don't think i want to know those people
How does it not fly for her?
I mean don't get me wrong, it's creepy. It's uncomfortable. But it's also completely harmless.
@@rektifyr... cause the doll is supposed to resemble a child
@@Jojo-xe1bg So are you a doll's rights activist?
What exactly are you protecting?
@@rektifyr... if you think it's harmless that someone sexualizes objects physically representing life size children, then you're missing the point. It's not about the dolls, it's about the person's highly questionable mental space and stance towards REAL children.
@@yoshiontheloose and dolls are real people?
I never finished watching this episode until now because it felt so messed up, but seeing the update posted I knew I had to come back and I'm so glad I did. Ken's rant was everything I needed
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- how to season a zombie.
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@Lucille everyone has a father💀 unless you have two mothers and one got pregnant which isn’t rlly possible or your mom got a donor.
@@Realbmell It is possible, bone marrow was used to create the first child born from two mothers DNA in 2018. What Lucille meant was that they didn't have a father in the emotional sense. They had a DNA donor but the emotional connection is not there. There is a fundamental absence of a father. You clearly ignored that to make yourself feel smarter
@Lucille sorry about your brother but it seems you turned out fine with no creepy zombie kid toy for a husband .
Her: I married a zombie doll
Me: eh, a bit weird but ain't hurting anyone
Her: Just because she's a child doesn't mean I'm a pedophile
Me:..... You've lost me
if you have to keep saying "im not a pedophile" "im not a pedophile" chances are..........
I agree with them, Ken is absolutely right to have said all of that. And it's true that, "she's not hurting anyone else' only goes so far as Pewds said. No one, not even them was thinking about it until she kept getting defensive for no reason. 🤢
Honestly it is so refreshing to see Ken standing his ground. People need to be told "no" every now and then.
Pedophillia never even crossed my mind until she mentioned it, and became adamant about defending how she wasn't a pedo. That means that she's been told that before and/or that she's being defensive about the obvious. That shit is extremely creepy, and I wouldn't let a child share any sort of space with her.
I personally don't think there's anything wrong with having an attachment to certain items or a collection (to a certain extent). However, when it comes to the people we've seen before that were obsessed, even the ones who were apparently sexual with whatever items, they were never adamant about how they weren't pedos or used mental illness or grief as a defense. It may have been mentioned or implied, but it was never a an absolute defense. Her explanation for this zombie kid doll thing crosses a lot of major lines for me, and using actual conditions that have no real correlations or affiliations with her behaviour is pretty damn despicable. I really can't blame Ken for being upset about this one.
Really late reply but I agree with this, being someone who deals with depression I wouldn't want to go out in public with a doll that brings in reactions, I like to gain the least amount of attention and a lot more but even if she has it she didn't have it clearly in this episode.
To be fair it could be something she hears from people irl, like in highschool or college, or friends
@@CheekieCharlie I agree I was called a pedophile in middle school just for having long hair
@@Kitsune16-r4h what? 😭 people can be so stupid sum times i swear
Yeah I didn’t think the doll was a child till then because she sees the doll as a child secretly even if she wants to see it as not a person? Ifk if you get what I mean lmao
As someone who’s clinically diagnosed, I can confirm that depression doesn’t cause attraction to children.
She's using that as a deflection for her obvious creepy actions with dolls that resemble little kids. She wants ppl to feel sorry for her but no one is fooled😬
Yes millions of us can confirm that as well.
Facts!!!! I second that!
I third that
I fourth that
I love that Ken finally went off on the obvious podophilic aspect of that women's mess! Like, now days mental issues are used as a shield to justify everything and you can't say nothing because then you get the sjw trying to cancel you for stating just the truth.
Please don’t let her go outside on Halloween, I wouldn’t be surprised if one Halloween night there are reports of zombie dressed children missing.
This is exactly what I thought?? What if a kid dresses up like a zombie for Halloween? I know i did when i was a kid. The line has to blur somewhere.
I was thinking the same thing.. I'm afraid of what might happen to them 😔
yup thats creepy as hell dudes
THIS!! like what would go through her mind if she saw a group of kids dressed as zombies with makeup similar to the doll Kelly and everything,,,, disturbing
She can kidnapp a kid and just dress him or her as a zombie, don't let her near kids at all
You know she is attracted to the children portion of it because she overstated that, "they are not kids...." which to me screams she is guilty of liking that portion of it
The “child” is most likely older than you
@@famousdex1782 it’s a doll. The age of the doll doesn’t matter, the age it’s portrayed as does. Quit defending boarderliners
@@Rocpacci please find me a child that looks like one of those dolls lol
@@xerrias have you never seen a child before? Like is it just a child with a bowl cut you've never seen 😂
@@FailedNoName .........
thats all i have to say to that
I've dealt with depression for a while. Ive never married zombie dolls as a coping mechanism. Impulse buy or retail therapy is one thing, but to marry them? Girl that goes beyond depression
It goes beyond depression that it ain't depression anymore 😂 hm
She could have depression but it’s clearly not what’s making her do this
What ever it is, it seem it got worse since her father died. Maybe? I think his death triggered something in her. And Yes, I think she really needs help.
Having seen first hand “this innocent hobby/interest/obsession that doesn’t hurt anyone!” Turn for the worst, multiple times with people….ya, I completely agree with Ken here….
When you start crossing lines and don’t think to stop and turn back, you keep crossing lines…it takes a huge huge amount of self control and discipline not to cross more lines…
I respect Ken for not only voicing his opinion, but stoutly standing by his decision despite the backlash which might follow. As a father myself, I share his view on this woman. 👏🏻👏🏻
I don't have kids, but I am an elementary school teacher and would never let this woman near any of my kids.
I agree💯
I’m glad all the comments are mature people who understand that it’s wrong to sexualize things that look like kids
All of those comments are cringe. They look nothing like kids, I'm completely disgusted that that is your view of what children look like.
@@xerrias Using the word "cringe" to try to explain something you disagree with is such a horrible take. Try maybe to be more mature - btw these dolls are definitely done up in the images of children, regardless of the end result. If you're too thick to grasp the basis of the topic, perhaps you should work on your comprehension skills and come back when you have a better understanding of certain things in context.
@@xerrias they are kids, just zombified
@@xerrias they do look like kids. are you blind? their bodies are those of children, and how she went in and gave them 3-something ages and repeadlty said shes not a pedo. she knows. its kids, shes attracted to kids. why are you defending her?
I like how instead of making fun of her depression, Ken actually makes a solid point on how she shouldn’t t use it to justify buying zombie child dolls and having a relationship with them.
What a Dad
She really took corpse bride to a new level
How many did he record before going to Australia? It's crazy!
Fr
He pulled an all nighter
a month of videos in advance
Is he already down under
Very considerate of him
Although she is not harming anyone, this lady definitely has problems that need to be dealt with. I completely get where Ken is coming from, it has nothing to do with bashing mental health, this lady's sexual attraction to child like dolls is disturbing and needs addressing, hopefully she will get professional help.
Did they ever say if her dad was a sinlge parent? Because i hope she has family somewhere that can help her. Sometimes ppl start small and get bolder if u know what i mean😬
ah yes, one of the deadliest attacks in history
Felix's silent clap
I cant believe we live in a world where he almost had to apologize for calling this kind of shit out ! I mean... 🤦🤯
This world is in the toilet for real
No one is asking him to apologize…no one is gonna cancel you for calling out pedos. This has never been a thing. Let’s stop being dramatic for once lmao