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  • @jonathanveale119
    @jonathanveale119 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Not one of these candidates is prepared to admit that their party made a series of calamitous mistakes while in office. I might listen to their bleatings if they were prepared to be brave and honest, telling their fellow MPs, and indirectly the electorate, what we all know: that Brexit was a dreadful mistake, and the deal struck with the EU poor for both sides; that the Rwanda policy was an immoral, decidely unpleasant attempt to tackle a worldwide problem; that lying and obfuscating about almost every move they made is not the way to govern, and that leaving it to a tiny membership of the party 'faithful' is only going to land them with another middle-aged lettuce or spouter of half-truths backed by no principles whatsoever.

    • @colbr6733
      @colbr6733 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Normally I would agree with this. However we live 10 minutes from the German border, we now have border checks today due to the integration issues seen in Germany. The German government are seriously considering the Rwanda plan that the UK ditched. Looking at Mario Draghi statement and considering Germany has been the cornerstone of EU policy the world is a totally different place to 2016.

    • @jonathanveale119
      @jonathanveale119 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@colbr6733 I agree the problem is worldwide . . . But I still argue that the Rwanda idea is both misguided and simply will not work as it is neither a real deterrent or will ever able to deal with more than a miniscule percentage of the millions who are 'on the move' to what they hope will be a better life.

  • @johnholkham2420
    @johnholkham2420 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.

    • @rodneyfungus8249
      @rodneyfungus8249 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Starmer, Reeves, Raynor, Lammy - they give the incompetent Tories hope of being elected in 2029.

  • @mpsmi
    @mpsmi หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    bunch of gross incompetents some of whom should be in jail

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go to jail,do not transfer all you dodgy income to a offshore tax haven.

    • @rodneyfungus8249
      @rodneyfungus8249 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For what crime?

    • @simonlewis6276
      @simonlewis6276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mpsmi give it a little longer and, on there current trajectory, that is precisely where the new bunch of gross incompetents will be headed very soon .

  • @youngian
    @youngian หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Imagine being in an organisation in which Kemi Badenoch is regarded as 'scorchingly clever.'

    • @KimSE4
      @KimSE4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone can be immensely intelligent and still lack empathy and awareness. I don't doubt Badenock's intellect - she's a very qualified engineer who can think quickly and she has a great deal of knowledge and obvious mental agility. She just doesn't understand people. I don't think she likes people very much and that doesn't go down well with the public.

    • @Frost-uy9me
      @Frost-uy9me หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@KimSE4Starmer is worse in the department of liking people. The only people he likes are his muslim benefactors.

  • @steveclarke6257
    @steveclarke6257 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The delusions of Robert Jenrick are plain to see in his video. The Tories did not lose because they "failed to communicate", they lost because they had as leaders two muppets in Johnson and Truss; effectively the "40W bulbs of the party" who were left completely unsupervised by an adult, during and after a global emergency.
    What they need is someone who can rebuild trust in the brand, which they really dont have to work that hard at, the way Starmer has started his term as PM. Someone who is willing to stick the knife into those predecessors and distance their leadership and priorities from that of the those PM's of last term of conservative government starting in 2018.

  • @squishedfrog99-gp4qq
    @squishedfrog99-gp4qq หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Cleverley is just another impotent liar. Promised the world and achieved nothing.

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cleverly joked he spiked his wife's drink with a date rape drugs at a time he was responsible for putting legislation through to combat the problem. You don't have to dig deep with any of those torys to find major faults with them,but the tory media conviently bury their heads in the sand to protect those that pay them.

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      Describes 99% of parliament. But that doesn't make him innocent. Or even suitable.

  • @asimwaheed8201
    @asimwaheed8201 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Elements of media said the same of Margaret Thatcher when she was elected as Conservative Party in 1975.

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      And look at what a failure that turned out. Hated by half the country at the time, and rejected by all but a tiny minority of the c party now (remember, she took us into europe).

    • @MrOliver1444
      @MrOliver1444 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Selling the oil fields' rights to private companies, selling council houses, the deindustrialisation of the North, and the Conservative finance politics caused inflation in the 80s and Trade Unions striking.

    • @asimwaheed8201
      @asimwaheed8201 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrOliver1444 sadly true.

    • @jonnobloggs1139
      @jonnobloggs1139 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They also said the same of Liz Truss when she was elected Conservative leader in 2022.

    • @asimwaheed8201
      @asimwaheed8201 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonnobloggs1139 true.

  • @paultaylor7082
    @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Andrew, the Tories don't 'do' humility, they never have and never will. They rely on the electorate having a poor memory, that way people forget they were to blame for so many disasters and think the Tories deserve another chance. Usually, they're proved right, the electorate do forget, and vote them back in again, and so the vicious circle is complsted once more.

  • @ThBraveBraveSirRobin
    @ThBraveBraveSirRobin หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    They’ll regret any of those incompetent fools.

  • @Dbdbe1
    @Dbdbe1 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Jenrick is just as horrible as Badenoch but speaks more nicely. That’s the only difference

    • @pascal8306
      @pascal8306 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Horrible in what sense?

  • @demisthemenace9444
    @demisthemenace9444 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They have learned nothing.

  • @ScepticalBrit
    @ScepticalBrit หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Please let it be Kemi, she will ensure that they stay in opposition for a very long time 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @georgesotiriou7051
      @georgesotiriou7051 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I don't get why so many people keep mentioning her intelligence. I mean based on what? She is also extremely unpleasant.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No, Kemi will be the next prime minister within a few years.

    • @andreafox7267
      @andreafox7267 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree. I hope she gets in and if she does she will consign the Conservative Party to oblivion … permanently.

    • @pascal8306
      @pascal8306 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgesotiriou7051can I ask what it is about her that makes her seem so unpleasant?

    • @pascal8306
      @pascal8306 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠@@andreafox7267why?

  • @chrisdickens4268
    @chrisdickens4268 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why does marr keep saying kemi is bright? She definitely thinks she is but I've yet to see actual evidence

  • @RoofLight00
    @RoofLight00 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That’s two minutes of my life I’ll never get back. Gee thanks 👍🏼👌

  • @mysterytrain96
    @mysterytrain96 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    We live in an age of personality politics, and Badenoch's temperament is one too divisive to lead the Conservatives out of their (self-inflicted) wilderness years. Marr - as always - has it bang on here.

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You think Starmer is PM because of his magnetic personality?

    • @mysterytrain96
      @mysterytrain96 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@georgesdelatour No, I don’t. In fact, Starmer is PM precisely because he lacks personality. As per YouGov’s most recent poll, Starmer - despite slipping into a net unfavourable approval rating - is still the most popular party leader in the UK. Of course, there are a number of variables as to why this is the case, but much of it is to do with the fact that his temperament can never aggravate someone TOO much; it’s difficult to get wound up over someone who is so utterly boring as Keir Starmer is. That also means he’ll never reach the heights of popularity (with certain groups) as say Boris Johnson or Tony Blair did, but it also means he can never quite reach their lows either.

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mysterytrain96 I suppose the obvious parallel is with John Major. Starmer and Major both seem to possess a kind of antimatter charisma. Both are considered moderates compared to their supposedly more dogmatic predecessors. And in both cases, this may be wrong.
      Margaret Thatcher was always portrayed as the Iron Lady, but look more closely and you can find evidence of her sometimes being indecisive and vacillating. Major was, in some ways, more dogmatic. The political choice which doomed his premiership was his decision to join the ERM, and stick with it doggedly, long after it became obvious the policy couldn’t work. At the point when he finally gave in to reality, he’d already raised interest rates to 12% and was on the verge of raising them to 15%. Voters never forgave him for the pain he’d inflicted on them. The irony is, after the UK left the ERM, Kenneth Clarke ran the UK economy the best it’s ever been run in the entire postwar period. It made possible the Blair good times.
      BTW Major only passed the Maastricht Treaty through Parliament - by just three votes - by threatening the Tory rebels he’d call a General Election and deliberately set out to lose it to Labour. I can’t imagine Margaret Thatcher engaging it that kind of political brinkmanship.
      It’s too early to tell, but I think I see something temperamentally similar in Starmer. I hope I’m wrong.

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Err no he wasn’t , kemi is a great weapon against starmer , got more personality 😂

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mysterytrain96he isn’t up against any leader 😂😂 when he was up against boris he was getting schooled regularly and kemi deals with starmer well and calls him out !

  • @andybrice2711
    @andybrice2711 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I can see why conservatives like her as a firebrand on cultural issues. She was sometimes formidable in The House of Commons. But yeah, I can’t really see her as a unifying leader.

    • @davidk7262
      @davidk7262 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think her desperately trying to stoke up a culture war appealed only to a very small portion of the electorate. The conservatives would be mad to elect her leader and her politics would only serve to create more division in the country. The alternatives don’t look much better though frankly.

    • @alanmansell4297
      @alanmansell4297 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not only formidable but economic with the actualité.

    • @hvhvgitaar
      @hvhvgitaar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She was indeed formidably dim, though not held back by any deluded confidence. Ignorant and stupid people are often highly confident, because accepting their real level of competence and knowledge would be too devastating to bear.

    • @johnsabini2330
      @johnsabini2330 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don’t need a unifying leader we need a strong focused leader to dump the neo-liberals out of the HoC party.

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No more one nation tories , please 🙏

  • @tuckkepoh5277
    @tuckkepoh5277 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    All the better for Labour if Badenoch becomes leader of the Conservatives.

  • @user-s1o3nr532
    @user-s1o3nr532 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Please don't get into this American habit of having spoilers. It's pointless and annoying on a short video.

    • @MrBizteck
      @MrBizteck หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes Times Radio started that crap and now I no longer watch their videos.

    • @user-s1o3nr532
      @user-s1o3nr532 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrBizteck Exactly the same here!

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All youtube clickbait habits are repulsive.

    • @shrimpoffthebarbie
      @shrimpoffthebarbie หลายเดือนก่อน

      I keep thinking the video has skipped backwards.

  • @user-fv1576
    @user-fv1576 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m impressed with Kemi. Smart and no BS.

  • @andrewdaws7275
    @andrewdaws7275 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good podcasts!

  • @coppershark1973
    @coppershark1973 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They won’t. They’ll elect the man who painted over Mickey Mouse!

  • @TootlinGeoff
    @TootlinGeoff หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm not surprised Patel has gone. She's tarred with same brush as Braverman, just a little less abraisive. Only a little less. Badenoch is both abrasive and easily offended. She's very right wing and would drag the Tories to the right.

    • @gavinmartin5151
      @gavinmartin5151 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and Kemi Badenoch is a bit like that teacher from that BBC programme called Tough Young Teachers on BBC Three years ago what do you think

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Patel who had secret meetings with foreign governments. Good riddance.

    • @Lorraine-p4r
      @Lorraine-p4r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Marr and all here are remainer far lefties.

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If bad Enoch does not want to be offended she should not look in the mirror. That's assuming she has a reflection.

  • @leo1961berlin
    @leo1961berlin หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't think Marr is very good as a pundit. Suggesting that the nice guy is a better bet for the Tory leadership is not very astute. Mel Stride is now in the past and there's little prospect of Cleverly coming through as the unity candidate. Marr has been wrong so many times in the past.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Tories rarely select the leader that the pundits predict. Also leaving the final decision to the Party membership is an accident waiting to happen. The last two times they chose the Party leader (and, de facto, the PM) they ended up with Johnson and Truss. We might well discover the MPs' choice of leader and the Party members' choice aren't the same. A bit like what happened to Labour in 2015, when Corbyn scraped on to the ballot paper for Labour leadership by just two votes, out of around 230 MPs, but won the vote of the Party membership with 60% of the votes. And look how well that turned out for Labour, who ended up out of power for 9 years, losing two General Elections in the process.

    • @leo1961berlin
      @leo1961berlin หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paultaylor7082 It’s tricky if you’re a political party. What are you going to give your members in return for membership dues if you take away their right to vote in leadership elections? Half a century ago the Tories had a membership of over half a million so they could finance their operations largely from membership dues. These days with far fewer members they have to rely on dodgy Russian oligarchs and racist-spouting rich guys like Hester. Labour’s electoral college might be rather better than the crazy Tory membership system, but it’s not really perfect either. And though the public might howl at the idea, having state funding of all political parties dependent on electoral performance and doing away with all individual and corporate sponsorship above, say, £50 would tackle the problem of sleaze which we now have.

  • @andrewcalladine2507
    @andrewcalladine2507 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    If Kemi Badenoch is as bright as Marr claims, it makes it even more embarrassing that she holds the views she does.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She's unconscionable and with loads of hubris?

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      As Quentin Crisp once said, "Intelligence is powerless to modify character"

    • @buzzukfiftythree
      @buzzukfiftythree หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I’m really not sure she is as bright as is generally thought.

    • @TootlinGeoff
      @TootlinGeoff หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@buzzukfiftythreeher technique is to belittle and patronise. That puts people's backs up.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not embarrassing, contemptible. It means she knows exactly what she's doing any she's playing it up to appeal to some of the worst instincts of people.

  • @karlyoung6289
    @karlyoung6289 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Whoever they choose they will be out of power for a decade. They are far too factional and far too slavish to the extreme right-wing, Tufton Street think tank, Trussonomics.

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't underestimate the stupidity and short-term memory of the electorate.

    • @zonianfjb
      @zonianfjb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Tufton Stree" FFS get your head out of the Byline Times' weird conspiracy crap 🙄

  • @jaybee4288
    @jaybee4288 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kemi isn’t really a person. From all accounts she’s a front for a group of rich men who tell her what to say because they wouldn’t get elected.

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Is there a politician who isn't ? You could say the same about any of them (including Starmer and especially Farage).

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theelmonk He wouldn't say that about Starmer or Farage. They're rich white men.

  • @swatantranandanwar7857
    @swatantranandanwar7857 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agree with Matt bad kemi would be the final nail in the coffin

  • @martycrow
    @martycrow หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I find it surprising that the Tories, who the Left often accuse of racism, would have this person as the top candidate.
    Olukemi Adegoke was born on 2 January 1980 in Wimbledon, London and one of three children born to Nigerian Yoruba parents. She spent her childhood living in *Lagos, Nigeria and in the United States* She came to the UK at the age of 16 (1996!) and lived with a friend of her mother's. In her parliamentary maiden speech she stated that she was "to all intents and purposes a first-generation immigrant".
    She maybe clever but "....what need have we of sophistry, danced afore us with the mask of Medusa?"

    • @hvhvgitaar
      @hvhvgitaar หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She grew up as a member of a privileged family in the Nigerian elite and this has given her a great sense of entitlement . Nothing of what she has ever said indicates anything more than average intelligence. Most of it betrays a poor grasp of reality and political views that have been outdated since the disaster of Thatcherism. All of it betrays a massive ambition and an almost comical sense of superiority.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting post, I wasn't aware that Bad Enough (sic) spent most of her formative years outside of the UK, despite her being born in the UK. Also her parents were the very sort of 'economic migrants' that she now wants to prevent from coming to live and work in the UK. Talk about pulling the ladder up once you've reached the top of the tree. I now think I'm able to understand exactly why she has this air of entitlement, coupled with a high level of arrogance and a thin skin, unable to take any criticism.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hvhvgitaar In many ways, Badenoch seems like a slightly more intelligent version of Liz Lettuce, wouldn't you say? However, the big difference is that Liz is utterly immune to criticism, for the simple reason she is too thick to understand when she's in the wrong, so ignores it. Badenoch, on the other hand, regards any criticism whatever of her as totally unwarranted and will argue the toss, even when she's clearly in the wrong, as she frequently is.

  • @andrewhuckle803
    @andrewhuckle803 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andrew Marr stated what I believed about Kemi Badenoch. She is very touchy and incredibly sensitive to criticism considering she's a politician.

  • @davebento1548
    @davebento1548 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a thought - If the tories thought Truss would be a great PM and got that so wrong isn't it also true that the tories who thought Corbyn would have been a disaster might well have been wrong about that.

  • @inspiremanagement
    @inspiremanagement หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has the word Clever changed meaning to the extent that KemiBadblack is the most shockingly clever in the Concervertive Party OMG

  • @Dragonsitter
    @Dragonsitter หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    UnCleverly but DIM. lol🥴

  • @simpleasliam657
    @simpleasliam657 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Badenoch is just not appealing. She isn't scorchingly clever at all, she seems a bit dim, trying to be a staunch figure but she is not leader material.
    I mean, by all means elect her, keep Starmer in office longer lol

  • @Roskim64
    @Roskim64 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pathetic really, rather than the strong leader it seems a "popular" get along to go along is better - seems like reform is a shooo in

  • @michellebarbour5777
    @michellebarbour5777 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sweet, little Tom H represents the old order of Maggie, bless him. Whoever gets to be leader now will never be the person fighting Labour in the next election. They'll change so many times. Why not wait to chat about Conservtive leaders for 4 years..please? More interestinng things to discuss now!

  • @_Stroda
    @_Stroda หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The sorts of people who get to vote to pick the new leader don't do 'regret'.
    It doesn't matter how obvious it is to rational people that something is a mistake, how much warning others give - anything that goes wrong or doesn't turn out well is, always, the fault of other people.
    Beyond near enough all else, this is the modus operandi of those who have dominated politics in countries like the UK and US in recent years.
    Someone is always to blame. The solution is always to blame.
    It's brain blendingly pathetic but, in most cases, these people are far beyond help.

  • @buzzukfiftythree
    @buzzukfiftythree หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The Tories have history in making bum decisions. Long may it continue!

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v หลายเดือนก่อน

      Labour have starmer 😂

  • @leehallam9365
    @leehallam9365 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stride has now gone, and despite being "the man to watch" Cleverly has stood still. He is running on likeability, but its hard to see what his purpose is beyond being a continuity Sunak candidate. To pick him would be to wait for Labour to hand power back, and hope Reform somehow self destruct. Tugenhat seems to me to be essentially focused on security and foreign policy, laudable but hardly the way to win people over. If MPs are sensible they will give their members a choice between Jenrick and Badenoch, then the decision will not be about factions but about who will be best able to oppose and fight the next election. It could go either way, Badenoch is the more instictive, but Jenrick is a very effective and hard working machine politician. As for the feelings of MPs, well this isnt Sunak vs Truss, they dont have a firm favourite and if Badenoch won, if the poll numbers were rising they wouldnt be worrying about her rudeness. As for the public, well she is no more brittle than Starmer, and she does have a sense of humour.

  • @Takh1
    @Takh1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Tories are cooked for a generation regardless 😂😅

  • @pepperless7218
    @pepperless7218 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tories are finished

  • @Lorraine-p4r
    @Lorraine-p4r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also I do not want who Dougie Smith chooses. Is Dougie Smith still there choosing who should be Leader?

  • @TarlachOakleaf
    @TarlachOakleaf หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So the Tories would "regret" electing Badenoch would they? This made me chuckle. It's like saying they'd regret electing Jack the Ripper. True but kind of understated.

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      But there's so much opf this atm. Look at Trump/Harris. It's like Batman vs the Joker. Batman is staid and establishment (albeit vigilante) but you can't look at the Joker and talk about his redeeming qualities and good points. He's just a cardboard villain.

    • @pascal8306
      @pascal8306 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why’s Kemi so bad in your view?

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People who aren't Tories (I'm no Tory myself) shouldn't get too smug though, just look at Labour and the Lib Dems records of electing party leaders. The former ended up in 2015 with Corbyn as leader, despite being warned by many he would never be PM, he went on to lose 2 General Elections, the second one leaving Labour will only 202 MPs, its lowest number since 1935. The even more incompetent Jo Swinson called for an early General Election in 2019, then went on to lose her own seat and the Lib Dems barely making it to double figures of MPs.

  • @andrewrose7800
    @andrewrose7800 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why, because she's bright, self-assured and articulate. Just like her shadow Angel Rayner 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mmicheni1466
    @mmicheni1466 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ambitious blur 😂

  • @hughcaskey9542
    @hughcaskey9542 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People are fed up listening to Marr rantering on about tories has no one informed him that his favourite pals are in power and what a mess they are making with freebies and losing their free sausages give it a rest sunshine

  • @JezFryer-zj1xb
    @JezFryer-zj1xb หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elect who they want they’re finished

  • @12bigredd
    @12bigredd หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    lol they will regret nothing lol

  • @safirahmed
    @safirahmed หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    James Cleverly seems to be the candidate who is the most eloquent and approachable and the one person who could effectively oppose Keir Starmer.

    • @annishilcock4587
      @annishilcock4587 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Effectively oppose Keir Starmer.?.ther's a lot of heavy lifting in that statement. Cleverly can not think on his feet.

    • @safirahmed
      @safirahmed หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@annishilcock4587 Cleverly could get sponsorship from Smarties for his campaign and the puns on his name could make memorable headlines and publicity for Tories.

    • @rodneyfungus8249
      @rodneyfungus8249 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wrong man for the job. Met him about 20 years ago - can’t believe he got senior cabinet positions. Was very unimpressed with him.

  • @rsalt6015
    @rsalt6015 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No audio.

  • @mattwardman
    @mattwardman หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jenrick has the problem that he is a crook.

  • @ohboyz222
    @ohboyz222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alan Ducan's interview was excoriating and to the point. None of the Tory leadership pygmies have a clue nor the gravitas to lead the party back to being a heavyweight. I disagree with Marr's assessment that it's too early to make this argument, Alan Duncan's well-connected in the Tory party, and can probably see for himself the limit of their capabilities. Besides this, no one it would seem, in the Tory party wants to have an honest debate as to why they only have 121 MPs now, their lowest ever. Until that happens they will remain broke and insignificant! 😄😄😄

  • @GeoffV-k1h
    @GeoffV-k1h หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They are all rubbish but KB would get the backs of her colleagues up from the get-go. An excellent choice, therefore.

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amusing and I need cheering up tbh.

  • @pastyman001
    @pastyman001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kemi did not sound clever when mis describing the trade deals with poor communication skills. Her arrogance should not be confused with actual ability. She could handle being a back bench MP at best

  • @paultaylor7082
    @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, by now, Mel Stride has bit the dust also. All that plotting for 2 years as leader and he's ending up with Sweet FA. Also the last thing the Tories seem to do is elect a likeable leader, it's not what they do. Time over the next month and more for more Blue on Blue action. Can't wait. Badenoch has too thin a skin to be a Party leader, she can't stand any criticism, which as Party leader, comes as part of the job desecription. Jenrick for me, he's in the lead and well on the way to getting the 41 votes needed to make sure he gets to the final ballot of the contest, the one decided by the Party membership.

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles หลายเดือนก่อน

      And me from an amusement position. He should elect Badenoch to a Senior Shadow though. There are the Winter months to get through now. And as long as they don't elect anyone half competent before 2027-9 that'll be great.

  • @KeunBerner
    @KeunBerner หลายเดือนก่อน

    Includind Sunak is much much better....Don't you think?

  • @mpg3946
    @mpg3946 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And yet they might just do it anyway.

  • @poppasmurf
    @poppasmurf หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If Marr supports someone, that's the one to avoid at all costs.

  • @samh8
    @samh8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pick her and lets see the total demise of the Tory party once and for all!

  • @EnefaahaElizabethGeorgew-ep3gb
    @EnefaahaElizabethGeorgew-ep3gb หลายเดือนก่อน

    JAMES CLEVERLY ENDURED WORST HUMILIATION FROM ESPECIALLY RISHI SUNAK; YET, HE WAS PEACEFUL AND COMMITTED. VERY REAR CHARACTER OF MANY POLITICIANS. HIS COMMITMENT TO THE PARTY, NATION AND HUMANITY IS MUCH MORE THAN MONEY CAN AFFORD. HE IS WHAT LEADEŔS NEED TO BE LIKE. I AM WISHING HIM AND HUMANITY THE JUST PEACE HE IS. CHEERS

  • @kaseycornflakes1234
    @kaseycornflakes1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rise of the smaller Parties is a definite and a `must`.

  • @davidhall7744
    @davidhall7744 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jenrick will be forever the guy who painted over Mickey & Minnie.

    • @ScruffyTubbles
      @ScruffyTubbles หลายเดือนก่อน

      And gave a mate planning permission for cash (for the Cons).

  • @jonsteele7227
    @jonsteele7227 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    None of them will be PM so why run now

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Corruption. Shadow PM gives you lost of access and benefits.

  • @BarbaraRayment-nb6dt
    @BarbaraRayment-nb6dt หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will never vote for her. EVER

  • @BillSilver-kg8hs
    @BillSilver-kg8hs หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Badenoch. Liz Truss in waiting.

    • @nickwalsh527
      @nickwalsh527 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Except, importantly, that she will be unable to indulge her fantasies from the opposition benches rather than from No 10.

    • @zonianfjb
      @zonianfjb หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@nickwalsh527what fantasies? Be specific. Or is this just fact-free prejudice on your part?

    • @johnsabini2330
      @johnsabini2330 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      With have Reeves & Starmer setting the benchmark for uselessness - Gold Standard 🤡s

    • @nickwalsh527
      @nickwalsh527 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@zonianfjb Fantasies like announcing an unfunded budget of ill advised tax cuts, for which there was no real call in the country, , (a budget which had not been reviewed by the OBR), and believing that it would be positively received by the capital markets without whose money the country is broke. Or did you miss that bit?

  • @LUo98
    @LUo98 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It seems there is a curated opposition of Kemi Badenoch. I like her

    • @rodneyfungus8249
      @rodneyfungus8249 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will rejoin the party if she becomes leader. Not a fan of any of the other candidates but hope to be proved wrong if one of the others win.

  • @JOzzie-u8z
    @JOzzie-u8z หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone that was a part of rishi sunaks government has no chance

  • @dixieflatline1189
    @dixieflatline1189 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A chance to reset a failed party's relationship with the public? Nope!

  • @petemarchetto4998
    @petemarchetto4998 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Badenoch wins, there'll be another leadership election before 2029. Now is the best time for it to happen. Hope there's still SOME pragmatism left among the membership and they'll work out from the polls that Badenoch may be what they want, but not the country.

  • @matthewtrow5698
    @matthewtrow5698 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    4 years from now, general public:
    Kemi who?
    Then again the same can be said for ALL of the Tory leadership hopefuls right now.
    And in 4 years time, who of them will even be in the party?
    One thing is for sure, whichever candidate ends up in the top Tory job, they won't hold it for long.
    The party isn't done yet with its self destruction.

    • @JohnnyRingo-c5v
      @JohnnyRingo-c5v หลายเดือนก่อน

      Vote reform

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Priti Who? And Mel who? And that's only a few days ago, gone but already forgotten.

  • @MrBizteck
    @MrBizteck หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a 'Labour for Kemi' group like the Tories did for Corbyn?

  • @kierandoran8196
    @kierandoran8196 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tories need something new. Jenrick might be 'clubbable' but he will not play well with the actual public. Its all a bit pointless. Talk about Streeting receiving $200,000 donation from the Ceo of and American Health Insurance Company. How safe is the NHS? Not very, I should think.

  • @connclissmann6514
    @connclissmann6514 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Westminster bubble or what?

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Westminster bubble heads.

  • @RonTodd-gb1eo
    @RonTodd-gb1eo หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The Guardian was trying to find dirt on Kemi, now Marr is trying to convince people she should not be Tory leader. The more the neo liberals (who are not liberal) and the left are against her I want the more I want her to win.

    • @mikestead3804
      @mikestead3804 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ditto

    • @qcsorter4626
      @qcsorter4626 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My enemy's enemy is not necessarily my friend.

    • @mpg3946
      @mpg3946 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s because you’re politics is focussed on left/liberal/woke and doesn’t have substance away from that.

    • @RonTodd-gb1eo
      @RonTodd-gb1eo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mpg3946 Since you don't know anything of the scope of my politics you cannot judge if they have substance or not.

    • @Mei0naise
      @Mei0naise หลายเดือนก่อน

      Badenoch will mean more pointless years spent arguing about whether people should get human rights instead of actually giving them, we need better LGBTQ rights we need better narrative in government and badenoch cant deliver that and its why the right wing are always so depressing

  • @petemarshallCX
    @petemarshallCX หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Andrew Marr showing an amazing amount of sexism in relation to Badenoch. I’m surprised he didn’t just call her shrill. I have never voted Tory and was a Labour member for most of my adult life but the most impressive Tory politician since Thatcher is Kemi. If the Tories want to take votes from Reform she’s their only serious choice.

    • @roberthudson3386
      @roberthudson3386 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are people not allowed to call a woman shrill without it being sexist?

  • @johnsabini2330
    @johnsabini2330 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clevely as leader would be another wet “Sunak Mark 2”🤦‍♂️

  • @yousoufkirkwood6289
    @yousoufkirkwood6289 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mel Stride seems a good choice for them.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gone already, falling at the second fence. Bye, bye Mel, a fat lot of good those 2 years planning to be Tory leader did you.

  • @SimonParker-hv6uu
    @SimonParker-hv6uu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steve Baker maverick? I can think of lots of words to describe Steve Baker

  • @andrewrose7800
    @andrewrose7800 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What! Andrew Marr not praising Kemi Badenoch. Finding colleagues who criticise her manner. All based on hearsay. Not sure whether he made the same investigative journalism for Starmer. I reckon the opposition are afraid of her, a strong, clever and capable woman.

  • @Peter-g1k
    @Peter-g1k หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am not sure why it matters. They are mostly irrelevant

  • @TetsugakuSan
    @TetsugakuSan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Keeping men out of women's spaces is a right wing issue now is it?

  • @anthonybrown4874
    @anthonybrown4874 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If Tories ever want to provide an effective opposition and a serious alternative to Labour she is not the person you need though neither are Braverman or Patel they are all disliked by the general public whether or not they end up regretting voting Labour.
    I think that there are a couple of decent female politicians but P Mordaunt lost her seat and E McVay appears not to be in the running and that blonde fool they elected (could be BOJO or Truss) put me right off.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      McVey isn't known as McVile without good reason. She's an even nastier piece of work than Bad Enough (sic).

  • @irsw51
    @irsw51 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It occurred to me that if the Tories had used this form of election in 1940, Churchill would have been eliminated first and we would have ended up with someone like Sir Kingsley Wood.

  • @bearhustler
    @bearhustler หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the love of all that is good and lovely please do not start using the term LOTO 🤮

  • @michaels8638
    @michaels8638 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they want Labour out they should not move to far to the right as they will then be in a fight for the right with Reform and I suspect it’s easier to nick labour votes than it is reform come the next election, especially if Labour has self imploded

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think so. Labour's vote barely changed last election, it was collapse of the tory vote that did for them. A few % went to reform but I think the majority just didn't vote.
      So what they need to do is get their voters back. They're not going to do that by chasing Reform though - they already did that and it failed pathetically. When they move right, they lose centrist votes far faster then they gain rightish ones.

  • @zhanruide84
    @zhanruide84 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks very unlikely that Starmer will win a second term so whoever the Tories choose will rightly or wrongly, sadly or happily, be the next PM

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq หลายเดือนก่อน

      If starmer looks unlikely to win (which if he continues with reeves tory fiscal rules is a definite possibility)he should legislate while he can for pr if only to keep the torys out for good.

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnPark-xf2gq I would still vote for him over the tories, holding my nose as I did for Blair. But tbh it's far too early to guess at his results. It's what, 6 weeks ? Yes, it's easy to think you spot a trend but far too early to be right.
      Far too much speculation and gaslighting here and everywhere. Fortunately, nobody's asking yet.

  • @jeremyquantrill4137
    @jeremyquantrill4137 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Labour would 'regret' the election of Kemi Badenoch to Conservative Party leader....

    • @Red1Green2Blue3
      @Red1Green2Blue3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not likely.

    • @Oliver-fu1go
      @Oliver-fu1go หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She’d be like their equivalent of Corbyn, appeals to the base but not the country

    • @zonianfjb
      @zonianfjb หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Oliver-fu1gowell no Corbyn is an anti-Semitic Communist. What views or ideology does Badenoch hold that's even on the same level of extremity as those things?

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zonianfjb Except he isn't. That has long been seen as a setup and now we're all learning that Israel doesn't deserve a free hand. The problem with Badenoch is that she's one-sided. She knows how to fight but not how to win. Like most political personalities who put themselves ahead of their country.

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zonianfjbcorbyn was not anti sementic Al he wanted was for to be able to critise the far right isreali goverment.the tory media were terrified that he might get into power and make their overseas bosses pay tax and the labour friends of isreal preferred to have a corrupt incompetent goverment than for anyone critise the isreally government.as for being communist that is the description the torys give to anyone left of the Austrian painter.

  • @dannydd
    @dannydd หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just ignore why Sunak was not accepted by many people, now Badenoch, while anti-migrant feeling is going strong. ??

    • @richardlabeja
      @richardlabeja หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They have always been a tone deaf party when it comes to hearing the public.

    • @zenokada2278
      @zenokada2278 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not anywhere near as prevalent as you think

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was accepted by the party, because he's rich. Didn't cut any ice with the voters.

  • @ronvalente65
    @ronvalente65 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Jimmi Dimmly is favourite!?

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i reckon he'll make the final three, and could well overtake Badenoch in the final ballot of MPs, leaving himself and Jenrick as the two candidates in the final ballot of the Party membership. In the meantime, I intend to enjoy all the Blue on Blue infighting, as the Tories tear themselves apart and remain in opposition for a considerable number of years.

  • @mrD66M
    @mrD66M หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another local election cycle will be necessary to get tories to rock bottom, winnow down the grifters, ship the loonies off to refUK then maybe get a few decent and morally sound people in that will help clear the stench filled, decaying necrosis that has afflicted the party

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it will take longer. The last few years have been pretty heavily weeding out the moral ones, either from above (sackings) or below (resignations). How lonmg to grow some more, and actually attract them to the party ? Who, with a realistic moral compass, would join them now ? The candidates discussed in this video are just the same old sleaze and extremism. Nobody to look up to.

    • @paultaylor7082
      @paultaylor7082 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theelmonk Agreed. The problem is the few new Tory MPs who got elected on July 4 are, in the main, right wingers, and it's likely their next leader will be right wing as well. This does not bode well for the Tories' electoral chances over the next decade and more.

  • @Prettyvacant-kx5yw
    @Prettyvacant-kx5yw หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Kemi wants to fight everyone!

  • @catherinemartin6258
    @catherinemartin6258 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    both of them are rubbish

  • @ministry2627
    @ministry2627 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cleverly is an establishment insider that does what he's told. Bit like Andrew Marr. A hollow parrot.

  • @MZig-rw7su
    @MZig-rw7su หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an oddball Marr is....eww

  • @lairddougal3833
    @lairddougal3833 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve never been able to regard Marr with the high level of credibility I once did after he said on air that Kamala Harris had never been elected to anything! Helluva factual gaffe that one. It left me wondering what other key facts he’s not gotten right.

    • @jamonit7169
      @jamonit7169 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I imagine you'd have been even more critical if he's mentioned Willie Browne who gave Harris her start in politics...

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's just a talking head, saying what he thinks will make an impression. No real thought.

  • @jonsteele7227
    @jonsteele7227 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But Mel stride was totally awful repeatedly on today programme. he was a whipping boy. But given the tories a bit of S&M probably goes a long way as long as its in the closet

  • @toadftm
    @toadftm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Tories will regret electing Badenoch" according to the folk who elected Starmer 😅

  • @darshanpatil7777
    @darshanpatil7777 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Marr I love the way you speak. A rare erudite in today's verbal diarrhoea. I wish to speak like you and speak like you, I will.

  • @jimmeer
    @jimmeer หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to deduce that Andrew Marr is of the far left from many of the statements he makes.

  • @johnnyconnelly7278
    @johnnyconnelly7278 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Labour fanboy speaks..again

  • @stevenwilliamson6236
    @stevenwilliamson6236 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Marr is reporting someone else's view.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We hope!

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's difficult to have an opinion on this. The Tories are well beaten and might never be back in power.

    • @theelmonk
      @theelmonk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chesterdonnelly1212 Yeah, at least a couple of parliaments. And given the tory's inability to improve their selection, perhaps half a dozen actual 'leaders' in that time.

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theelmonk it's actually impossible to predict. They could go extinct. They could continue as a LibDem size party. Or they could make a dramatic comeback and be back in power in 5 years.