Transit vs ProMaster vs Sprinter vs RV? Choosing a van for my conversion

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  • Hi, welcome to the second video in my van build series. In this video, I'll discuss why I chose a cargo van instead of an RV to travel in, and then I will give a comparison of the different cargo vans out there. Enjoy! Subscribe for more!
    Looking for detailed videos about all aspects of the build?
    Find them here - bit.ly/3cGhhbF
    Note about dimensions given in video:
    The measurements given in this might not be perfect. Before starting any build take your own measurements. I got these numbers mostly from searching around online and with some cross checking against notes I had from looking at vans and measurements of my own van. The website I found the most useful for a comparison of dimensions is the sportsmobile van-dimensions page: sportsmobile.com/van-dimensions/. It is also important to note that the lengths are not going from the front seats all the way to the back doors (as typically measured in OEM specs). I don’t consider every inch of that buildable space. The measurement goes from the point where a partition would be installed (generally cabinets can’t be built any further forward then this even in a design without a partition) to the rear column just before where the inset area for the doors is. This means there is typically about another 6-7” from this point to the middle of the doors, and while this space provides some more elbow room or room for things to stick out in the back, it isn’t very buildable space in my opinion as it is significantly narrower.
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  • @dave3682
    @dave3682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    Hello! I drove Mercedes Sprinters and Ford Transits when I drove for FedEx.
    I have two things to mention about the Sprinter. First is that they do not have a very good turning radius, even for a van. Actually, the entire reason why we also had Transits instead of just Sprinters was so that drivers who had routes out in the country with long dirt driveways and small turn arounds could manage more comfortably. My other warning about the Sprinter is that the frames rust out relatively quickly. We had Sprinters with 500,000 miles that were otherwise fine and were only scrapped because the frame was so rotted that the van would wobble like a diving board going over bumps and also when you got in or out of the Sprinter from the rear. (Note that some of our vans drove up to 250 miles a day, so they'd get to 300,000 and 500,000 miles relatively quickly in only a few years.)
    As for the Transit, I can only tell you to avoid the 3.0L diesel like the plague! These engines do NOT like to idle! Very unreliable! We replaced all 10 of our diesel Transits with gassers after only 8 months of driving them. The gasser Transits, though, are absolute dream boats. Very fun and comfortable to drive. Not quite as refined as the newer Sprinters, but certainly more utilitarian.
    Hope someone finds this helpful!

    • @Allisonlikescats
      @Allisonlikescats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Thank you so much for posting this!!! This really helps me :)

    • @syedullah613
      @syedullah613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I own a fleet of both and I couldn’t agree more...

    • @DV-ll9zq
      @DV-ll9zq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you for the info.

    • @jleedw
      @jleedw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for this information

    • @MJ-vf1im
      @MJ-vf1im 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very helpful, thanks!

  • @westwasbest
    @westwasbest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    As a mechanic for many years, and someone who's been in and out of Vans for a while, I have to tell you that you are one smart young man! I love the details, I love the illustrations, and you really did your homework, excellent job!

  • @stuartstuart866
    @stuartstuart866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    I really like your presentation style, you are very informative without being too chatty about irrelevant details.

    • @gaberoyalll
      @gaberoyalll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really good 👍

    • @death9222
      @death9222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little too robotic for me. I kept having to rewind to catch things I missed just from losing attention to it. Its possible to be a millennial, not say "like" and "actually" while still giving some life to whatever you are presenting. 😂

    • @jackdreamvan1806
      @jackdreamvan1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@death9222 a little robotic, I agree. But overall I really enjoyed his presentation. Moser, you have a clear, organized mind & your content was right on point of what I'd been until now unsuccessfully seeking to learn.

    • @ruthhollard7339
      @ruthhollard7339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree! Short sweet and to the point, thank you!

    • @MaximC
      @MaximC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In short, I very much agree, most informative videos on van conversion. So appreciated.

  • @johnmca5643
    @johnmca5643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As an engineer this is by far the most informative van video I've seen. Your Ford would be my pick too.
    I was unaware that Dodge has a Fiat motor. That's a no-no for me.
    The Sprinter is expensive both in initial cost and any repair cost.
    Truthfully I'm not a huge fan of American made cars. I wish Honda or Toyota had a large van.

    • @CB-vx8dt
      @CB-vx8dt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the Promaster is also known as a Fiat Ducato (and I've also seen them as Citroens too though the name escapes me)

    • @itsnick37
      @itsnick37 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Live out of a 4runner or tundra maybe 🤷🏻‍♂️or be like TH-cam Mav living out of his Ford Lariat I actually think pickup truck living isn’t bad….

    • @barrytimm5497
      @barrytimm5497 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Millions of those Fiat Pentastar 3.6 engines are sold in literally dozens of vehicles and they are vfery reliable with basic good maintenance. nSome are running over 500k miles without major repair.

  • @WW-wf8tu
    @WW-wf8tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    1 word. Impressed. Not often can I say that from a variety of content from a variety of sources. This is exactly what people need. An intelligent, well researched, and perfectly presented video. Your dialog was spot on. Your visual cues were perfectly timed. Your editing must have been easy. You stayed on topic and flowed from 1 point to the other in a non broken manner. No distractions in the background to disrupt what you were sharing. Thank you for bringing your knowledge and experience on this project to TH-cam. Nicely done.

    • @JamesBrett2008
      @JamesBrett2008 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just watched it now and was thinking the same immediately. Breath of fresh air when someone just gets how to do it.

  • @williamgaldamez3273
    @williamgaldamez3273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    This was so informative on the difference in sizes, you save us time to a lot of us looking for a van. Thanks!

  • @justinford2099
    @justinford2099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I'm a mechanic that works mostly on alls these Van's. The promaster is the worse reliable van by far. The sprinter is expensive to maintain if u can't do it ur self. I would by a transit. Great choice

    • @dave3682
      @dave3682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Any opinion on the Nissan NV reliability? Thanks!

    • @biketothetop
      @biketothetop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Justin thanks for your two cents! I'm not surprised the guy with the last name of Ford likes Fords :-)

    • @justinford2099
      @justinford2099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wow sorry about my grammar. I must have been half asleep when I wrote that. Yeah if u meet any of Henry's grandkids, ask them where my check is. Lol

    • @justinford2099
      @justinford2099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And the NV's suck too

    • @biketothetop
      @biketothetop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@justinford2099 grammar is overrated, but it does help with First Impressions :-) I do a lot of dictation through my phone and oftentimes it seems it changes after hitting the enter key.

  • @meoka2368
    @meoka2368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Dude. I did NOT expect this level of information. Well done :)

    • @petefarmer3514
      @petefarmer3514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed...Was very well done! 👏

  • @NomaddUK
    @NomaddUK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    As an Englishman I would like to say thank you for being one of the first American van lifers to actually speak English the way it should be spoken. Clear concise and no overuse of awesome or super. You did a great job of methodically working through your selection process and the reasons you chose your van. I am truly looking forward to your next videos. Keep up the good work my friend.

  • @vfxdroneshorts9637
    @vfxdroneshorts9637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    nice to see Ed sheeran got into van life

  • @rebekahbabb6963
    @rebekahbabb6963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I have watched 100s of van builds but your chart snd explanation of all three was the best I have watched! Thank you!

  • @jeanwest1058
    @jeanwest1058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Love your style. You must have been a great student in school. Thank you for sharing and keeping the nonsense background music out of it. Love the graphics too. It’s clear how much research you put into this. Looking forward to seeing lots more from you!

    • @will._.x_.861
      @will._.x_.861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hear! Hear on the absence of goofy music 😝

    • @jeffrygriffith3811
      @jeffrygriffith3811 ปีที่แล้ว

      Road traffic was perfect the background audio.

  • @JeffreyViews
    @JeffreyViews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've always thought that if and when I ever convert a van for a home it would be a Transit and this video cemented that thought; a 2020, high roof, LWB, AWD, cruise control, back-up camera, eco-boost engine, limited slip rear-wheel differential would be the one I would get. Excellent job on your presentation, thanks!

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These kind of vans have such big mirrors you don't even need a back up camera. I drive all these everyday for work and I would always choose the Promaster. Never hit anything in all my years of backing up these kinds of vans and 3-5 tonne trucks.

    • @roberthuffjr5540
      @roberthuffjr5540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JeffreyViews I’m leaning heavily in the same direction as you for me and the wife’s retirement van. I’m 6’4” 275 and she’s 5’9” 220. We gonna need that LWB for sure for our needs and a comfortable bed. 😎

  • @jcrefasi1
    @jcrefasi1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Nice to have all the details given to us in an easy to follow presentation complete with visual aids! The charts were very helpful to compare the different wheelbases offered. Thanks Moser and looking forward to more great videos

  • @msworkinitout
    @msworkinitout ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so glad this video still exist it help me figure out what size van I want for myself

  • @jamesoldman3021
    @jamesoldman3021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Good presentation liked the fact you spoke clearly with no ungodly background music.
    Too bad the manual transmissions are not offered in North America.

    • @johnward1281
      @johnward1281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hear in England i have a Transit Jumbo, Manual 6 speed, 140 Diesel, i get 30 M.P.G. no problem

    • @gypsiewanderer24
      @gypsiewanderer24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Americans can't drive a stick

    • @timothy790110
      @timothy790110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gypsiewanderer24 in sweden its not a choice, you HAVE to take your license driving manual.

    • @robertplutz8221
      @robertplutz8221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnward1281 You probably meant "here" ?

    • @M3T2W01f
      @M3T2W01f 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I wish more cars and vans here had stick.

  • @ericburgher
    @ericburgher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dude! Your videos are the most informative and well thought/laid out ones I’ve ever seen. This one on van types was greatly appreciated. Keep up the awesome work! 👏🏻

  • @oysteinheggebo
    @oysteinheggebo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The best “which van to buy” video I’ve seen yet, thanks!

  • @christinetaylor6764
    @christinetaylor6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've started researching the different vans and am thankful you've already done it and shared it with us. Thank you for taking the time to help newbies!

  • @TheBlueQuasar
    @TheBlueQuasar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the pure facts, no fluff approach. It was great to have a regular person lay out the info without hype. Glad I watched this.

  • @PinkstaffRacing
    @PinkstaffRacing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video is perfect! I’m considering exactly the choices you covered, so this information was spot-on. I’m leaning towards a Transit. Now to watch your other vids to learn more how to prep one!

  • @CB-vx8dt
    @CB-vx8dt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love how straightforward this is. Graphics were a handy addition to (I've even screenshotted some of them for future reference). Immediately subscribed 👍

  • @jimburger9418
    @jimburger9418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thoroughly researched and nicely presented information - thanks.

  • @cruisingangel7042
    @cruisingangel7042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very helpful!!! First video I’ve found on the interior height differences. I’m leaning towards the pro master.

  • @JonahMoriarty
    @JonahMoriarty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I must agree with the others, you have a great presentation style on all fronts.
    Informative, comfortable, just the facts and great volume. I find so many DIY on youtube- by those who fail to provide good audio. Your audio is very good.
    Thank you for the tips. Happy I found you.

  • @Joe44944
    @Joe44944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Man!
    Thanks for taking the time to do this, I'm looking into building a Van myself so this is very helpful!
    Cheers!

  • @ruthnotestine6888
    @ruthnotestine6888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed this video because you were direct, concise, and more interested in conveying information than in promoting yourself.

  • @PURPLE_SHADE_SMOOTHIE
    @PURPLE_SHADE_SMOOTHIE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I couldn't stop watching. I was mesmerized by your delivery.

  • @mayb.3745
    @mayb.3745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very informative. I learned more from you than the “builders”. All pertinent information. Thank you. I’m taking notes.

  • @deanmignola5448
    @deanmignola5448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude... excellent job! I'm getting a Transit too. Probably going with the medium roof though. You really helped me with the wheelbase. I was planning on the short wheelbase until I noticed that the long wheelbase is basically the same as the short wheelbase in the Sprinter. I'm going to get a passenger version and replace the back couple rows of seats with a bed and just put all terraign tires/wheels and a roof rack on the van... done. Perfect for surf trips and short camping trips.

  • @judyjacobson9650
    @judyjacobson9650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic information! I've watched hundreds of videos regarding van/rv builds. I have learned a lot, but couldn't find any detailed van comparisons......until now! Thank you so much! Now I can begin a knowledgeable search for a van. Great job!

  • @stephdevino
    @stephdevino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the most helpful video I’ve seen so far on choosing a van! The graphics were a huge plus. Thank you!

  • @RoadToSalvationX
    @RoadToSalvationX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, super helpful. The best that I've seen so far on this topic. Thanks!

  • @kathleenreyes4345
    @kathleenreyes4345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Thank you for this information and sharing your research! This has been extremely helpful as you answered many of my questions!!

  • @vickilynn4773
    @vickilynn4773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for your clean, clear, concise, caring, just plain "talk to us" manner of teaching about EVERYTHING VANS!

  • @gumbynomad
    @gumbynomad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how it was just straight to the point. Also SUPER cool to have all the numbers compared like that! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @mattmit1998
    @mattmit1998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks heaps for this, all the questions i wanted answered regarding size, keep it up

  • @EricLouisYoung
    @EricLouisYoung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BRO. Best van video I could have stumbled upon. Wow! I'm 6'4" so I'll be seeking a transit hr extended

  • @chrisharriman5245
    @chrisharriman5245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just starting my search for a used van for a conversion, very informative and detailed video. Love this...thank you very much!

  • @3d3lw3155p1r4t
    @3d3lw3155p1r4t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have the best and most organized information in a Video about Van conversion I have seen so far. Thank you so much

  • @jimmyiggy5937
    @jimmyiggy5937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job, very informative and covered many useful, important points.
    Thank you!

  • @ourkaravan
    @ourkaravan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I thought you did a very balanced review of each of them. I had a difficult time choosing a van because, as you said, they each seem to have their own issues.

    • @donalddodson7365
      @donalddodson7365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My guess is that if you were buying used, you would settle for whatever looked like it was well maintained and ran the best at the right price. Buying new, for me, has usually had something to do with the dealer's attitude, the service departments' ratings and location. But, the last time I bought a vehicle was November 2005 ... I keep 'em a long time.

  • @bertholtappels1081
    @bertholtappels1081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As many have said, thank you for the best comparison on the internet. Many have done this before you, and I’ve seen and read most of them, but they all are missing important elements. Yours is comprehensive while not burying the information in irrelevant details.

  • @FundingGym
    @FundingGym 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an EXCELLENT video. I appreciate how well prepared you were with explaining your thoughts before buying. Thank you!

  • @mikedodge1322
    @mikedodge1322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for a great video. The diagrams were extremely helpful!

  • @viankarby7599
    @viankarby7599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really great presentation specially because no music,,thank u so much for your info🙏🏻

  • @lamonttblackshire1638
    @lamonttblackshire1638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been searching through videos for a week, you answered at least 10 questions I could not find the answer to anywhere else! Thank you so much!

  • @karennevin7101
    @karennevin7101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh, wow! I have watched MANY cargo van comparison videos and yours is the clearest and most practical, and I would say without bias towards the van you chose. Kudos!!
    And thanks!!

  • @rockngrannyroadwarrior8807
    @rockngrannyroadwarrior8807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was so informative on the difference in sizes. I’m research shopping for my next get-away vehicle for extended trips. Have always been drawn to ford Transit connects. Prefer the mid height roof. Your vid is only one I’ve found with measurements inside. Will be looking for the older models as I’m budget limited. So many thanks. Cheers, MaryAnne 💃💃💃

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a Promaster you won't be disappointed.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhiteSupreme BS

    • @earthkarma7420
      @earthkarma7420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhiteSupreme Why? I've heard that they are the least reliable with transmission problems.

  • @ryanmartinage
    @ryanmartinage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you're wanting a panel style van, I think the Transit is hands down the winner for ease of repairs and superior powertrain options. Im going for a Transit all wheel drive soon as they come out this winter with the 3.5 ecoboost.

  • @soukkiy
    @soukkiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. This is SUPER helpful. I've been so torn over van types. This gives me a lot of info to work with. Also, those size charts you made are gold. Thank you 🙏

  • @lynneb6510
    @lynneb6510 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation Moser. I just bought a 2015 Ford Transit and will be watching for more of your videos. Your video is clear and concise, and your presentation was well organized, thoughtful and pretty complete. Thanks!

  • @Scrambler85
    @Scrambler85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went with a 2021 Ford E350 cutaway van with a 14' box that has a 84" high interior and with 80 of interior width. It was important for me to be able to insulate and stand upon in it. With a 80" interior width I can sleep across the back. Plus it has a 13,000 pound tow rating with a 6,100 cargo capacity. Love the power of the new 7.3 gas motor that Ford named Godzilla 😁

  • @soggynomadpress
    @soggynomadpress 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shopping now. Thanks for the great info!

  • @scottkempton6085
    @scottkempton6085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on this video. Like the others have said, good presentation style without a lot of unnecessary info, and I loved the graphics. This was very useful.

  • @eddiehuynh4468
    @eddiehuynh4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the charts were amazing and everything I needed to make a decision. I was dead set on the Promaster extended but now I think I like the Ford Transit extended. Thank you so much!

  • @allysonpierce3812
    @allysonpierce3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video is exactly what we needed! This was so informative! We want to be your friend!!

  • @anthonvanderneut
    @anthonvanderneut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally part 2!

  • @jensallis2
    @jensallis2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So informative, and thoughtful of your audience's time. Thank you!

  • @fredhubbard7210
    @fredhubbard7210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To the point. Thanks for taking our time seriously. I love the charts. At 6'5'" the choice is simple.

  • @tvc380
    @tvc380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative. I like your videos!

  • @rose8662
    @rose8662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This was so excellent! THANK YOU!

  • @terrysmith9716
    @terrysmith9716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been watching videos for a month - every night. This is the FIRST time I have seen a comparison of the vans that include real info about lengths / wheelbase with side by side visuals. Thank you!!!!! Some of us gals just know we want a van. While drone effects are super for me they are not why I'm watching videos. This was truly informative!!!

  • @stevenlader732
    @stevenlader732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the most succinct, informative videos I have come across with useful and practical contrast and comparison. Looking forward to watching your other videos. Thank you!

  • @markusrobinson3858
    @markusrobinson3858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congratulations on an excellent and informative video. I own and have converted a 2017 170" 4x4 Mercedes Sprinter but wanted to hear your comparison. I was surprised to learn that the Sprinters have much longer wheel bases but are somewhat narrower than the other vans. Mine is not the extended version 170". The 4x4 version has 3" more clearance under the body so I've never experienced any ground clearance issues. The 4x4 feature maintains the basic slip differential which means that in slippery conditions at most you have one wheel forward and one wheel aft in 4x4 mode. In other words the basic Mercedes Sprinter 4x4 is not a true locked hub 4x4. That's a drag, but it is what it is. Fully loaded I get a combined vanning mileage of about 16.8 mpg driving nothing but back roads, off roads, and stop and go city driving. Pretty good for a 4x4.

    • @monicawilson896
      @monicawilson896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you been happy with it? How many miles have you put on it? I am concerned about cost of repairs and availability of Mercedes dealers to have it serviced if we go traveling in it. Have you had any rust issues underneath the van?

    • @markusrobinson3858
      @markusrobinson3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@monicawilson896 Hello Monica, I performed a full custom conversion of the van spending almost two years doing it (and producing about 65 engineering-grade plans in the process). We ended up with a true 3-room design: bedroom (over the garage) with full seated headroom, toilet/shower, and front galley/dining area that seats four (when the two cab seats are facing backwards.) Solar panels, lith ion batteries, diesel furnace and stove. The doors between the areas are all solid/sliding so there is genuine privacy and light opaqueness between areas. Email me at markusfrobinson@gmail.com for details. My wife and I are supremely happy with the van, having completed three major multi-month trips in it and planning on a year in Europe and an extended trip through South America to Patagonia when Covid permits... The extra three inches of clearance is wonderful for off-road and marginal road conditions. Mercedes parts and service are expensive but you get what you pay for and the diesel engines and transmissions are excellent and long lasting. Have not had any rust issues but sprayed the interior where the plastic side panels are pinned on to increase protection from rust.

  • @lorcro2000
    @lorcro2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In Europe I'd be choosing between either the Transit or the Iveco Daily. And I'm leaning towards the Daily. The Transit does have slightly better fuel economy (about 35 mpg US in Europe) but I like how the Iveco is constructed, and the extra extra long variant is nice, half a meter longer is still enough to do a bathroom and a shower and still have as much space as the other vans left over. I don't really care about being able to park in a single spot though, I'd rather have the space.

  • @vanessahenry7238
    @vanessahenry7238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW thank you! Your videos are clear and helpful! I am seriously looking at doing this for life(at 50 yrs old) so I never have to pay for rents or a mortgage and travel like I wanted, I looked at Motor-homes and there is to many issues I didn't want to deal with and I didn't want to haul a travel trailer. Just been trying to get as much information, and your video one the different types of cargo vans is soo informative and as Stuart Stuart said "very informative without being too chatty about irrelevant details." Thank you and I will be watching and following your other videos!

  • @dmwi1549
    @dmwi1549 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All the information you need in one concise video. Thanks for posting this!

  • @aldious1010
    @aldious1010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    FINALLY! A man who can speak properly! Thank you so much!

    • @cwr8618
      @cwr8618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you live in a nuthouse or something?

    • @aldious1010
      @aldious1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cwr8618 No, its the proper speech that makes the difference! Its the articulation! Thanks a bunch and be well

    • @cwr8618
      @cwr8618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aldious1010 just teasin herbalizer. cheers!

    • @aldious1010
      @aldious1010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha Cheers bro

  • @katokhaelan4881
    @katokhaelan4881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dude. My god. Thank you so much!!!!

  • @cbryce9243
    @cbryce9243 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate that you take the time to make these videos and that you do them at a speed that I can absorb the information. Thank you.

  • @MsThebeMoon
    @MsThebeMoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video so far on comparing the three type Cargo Vans. Thank you.

  • @michaelconchscooter8940
    @michaelconchscooter8940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Good presentation. I went Promaster as I’m buying new and the early bugs in the 2014/5 seem to be worked out. The 2020 offers swivel driver’s seat and that matters as I want front living. The interior width of the Promaster is better than the transit as the interior rubbing leaves more room by my measurement. And I can’t live in less than 20 feet. I wish I could but we need the 21 foot high top. So after a
    Lifetime driving ford I’m going dodge. This will be interesting.

    • @seansnowdon2046
      @seansnowdon2046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's to funny, after a lifetime of dodge I'm going Ford. We have had 4 dodge mini vans over the years, 3 awesome trucks, dodge jeep and charger now. Never an issue, especially there engines. I am converting a van for the wife and I, now that our daughter is off to college. I like the Transit only for the height, since I am looking at building a bed to lift up to the ceiling and table underneath. This will be interesting.

    • @conchscooter
      @conchscooter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seansnowdon2046 Thing is we are short and we can get a sideways 6 foot queen sized folding bed long enough for us. The wide ribs of the Transit did me in as it's less broad inside and my wife vetoed a narrow beam....can't argue with that! We are having Custom Coach Creations in DeLand build the interior and he owner likes Promasters for his conversions though he does any van so until my wife vetoed the Ford I was hopeful.

    • @lucymiller6616
      @lucymiller6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's been two years, so are you happy with your choice?

    • @lucymiller6616
      @lucymiller6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seansnowdon2046 Give us an update.

    • @pnwesterner6220
      @pnwesterner6220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Swivel seats are available in the Transit

  • @EugeneSan
    @EugeneSan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    A few corrections/additions (not trying to convince anyone, just sharing data I myself collected when I was comparing the Vans):
    1. The engine/transmission in the Promatser are made by Fiat only for Diesel models which are less common than Gasoline ones which come with Pentastar 3.6 (the same drivetrain used in Vans, Jeeps, Pickups, SUVs, etc) and it is definitely cheaper to maintain/replace.
    2. Promaster also suffers from the windshield cowl panel "leakage".
    3. As Aaron G mentioned, Promaster has different dimensions than showed in video and they are, IMHO, better than Transit's.
    4. Promaster is cheaper than Transit. Comparable configurations of Transit are usually 10% more expansive than Promaster.
    5. High roof Promasters are ~1 foot lower (on the exterior) than high roof Transits while still allowing ~74 inches of interior height.
    6. Unless you include Transit 2020, convenience features (seating, dashboard, multimedia, etc) of Transit are seriously outdated when compared to Promaster.
    7. Ground clearance of Promsater, despite visual difference, is only 0.1 inches lower than Transit.

    • @L-Anded
      @L-Anded 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you.

    • @patdthomas
      @patdthomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And one more thing, ProMaster is by Ram. Not Dodge. FYI, love my PM!

    • @emilyy7825
      @emilyy7825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! Thank you for this comment!! I'm looking to buy a van now after saving for a year, so I'm researching now. Since I'll be solo, my biggest concern is reliability. I was leaning towards a Promaster (I like how it handles) but then I heard about the engine being considered unreliable... Do you have a PM?

    • @patdthomas
      @patdthomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@emilyy7825 The diesel powertrain was unreliable and was dropped after a few years. The standard Penastar V6 gasoline engine is tried and true and used in many Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge and Ram vehicles. Mine has been smooth, responsive and relatively efficient.

    • @alexyoungberg5232
      @alexyoungberg5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patdthomas and the difference is?

  • @glassy5716
    @glassy5716 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man your video is what i was looking for in all this vanlife channels, thanks for your hard work on it.

  • @stevenhorkey2249
    @stevenhorkey2249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish more of TH-cam could be as useful and to-the-point as this one. Bravo

  • @AaronGeller
    @AaronGeller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I personally own a Promaster but I just as equally like the Transits. The Sprinters are for people who can only afford a Mercedes by living in one (I'm half joking).
    The Promaster interior measurements weren't correct on that chart. The 159" (mid length) has 145" for cargo or 12.08 ft which was longer than the chart showed and from window to window, the width is about 6'5".

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sprinters are for suckers who want a set amount of starts and absurd fees just to get it into a shop.

    • @RobertLeeLewisThe2nd
      @RobertLeeLewisThe2nd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WhiteSupreme You should change your name.

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert Lewis no

  • @factfigures85
    @factfigures85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like your videos and way of talk

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of all the videos I have watched you are the only one who explains what boon docking actually is. So good on you for that.

  • @caronp9886
    @caronp9886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly the information I’ve been looking for and all in ONE video. Nice presentation-well done. Thank you! Look forward to watching more of your videos as my research continues. Happy travels ☮️

  • @Heatsauce70506
    @Heatsauce70506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Very helpful...I'm still leaning towards a Promaster, if I can find one I can afford.

    • @blackreacher
      @blackreacher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got one you can buy, 172,000 highway miles

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As somebody who drives Promasters, Transits, Sprinters, and Savannahs frequently I would go with the Promaster over anything else.

    • @jcardosa02
      @jcardosa02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Abercrombie who in their right mind would get a pro master they’re literally garbage lol ford transit is THE number one most reliable

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jcardosa02 Well only idiots buy Fords.

    • @Creature0022
      @Creature0022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im thinking a medium length hightop promaster

  • @FreedoomRock
    @FreedoomRock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't know where did you get the measurements for the Promaster, i have a Roadtrek Zion 21' long high roof from floor to ceiling i still have 6'2 and a half of standing height

  • @smooth6718
    @smooth6718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good job of presenting and comparing the different vans. I like your style: no frills, no exaggerations, just the facts, mam, the facts.

  • @jo-annharvie9411
    @jo-annharvie9411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! You took a lot of work out of researching vans for me, thank you

  • @johnmaciejewski4
    @johnmaciejewski4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Congratulations on your new to you van! I wonder if I could ask a couple questions? How old is the van ? How many miles does it have? What was the price for comparison when I buy my van? Good luck on your build I will be watching you progress. Thank you

    • @davidyule3605
      @davidyule3605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He states in the video that its a 2015.

    • @rangerider51
      @rangerider51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said it’s a 2016

    • @acenuck
      @acenuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, he said it was a 2016.

  • @DonQ
    @DonQ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sprinters can't just be taken to Mercedes dealers. They have to be taken to special certified sprinter dealers so it is even more difficult to get service for them. We've heard some bad things about their reliability also.

    • @WhiteSupreme
      @WhiteSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah you have to pay $1000+ just to get it into the shop too before anything is done. Let alone the fact you can only start the van so many times before you have to take it in.

  • @spencertnusa
    @spencertnusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on this. Great use of graphics! It kept me focused. This was very helpful in my van search.

  • @justinaminian6641
    @justinaminian6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for gathering all this information and displaying it so well. Awesome video! Looking forward to following your channel.

  • @sc0368
    @sc0368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Mercedes would clear your bank account for maintenance.

  • @tillygraham1572
    @tillygraham1572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good review . Promasters have a better build out lay out due to the walls being more straight Al the way tote roof ..

  • @rayo1371
    @rayo1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have done an EXCELLENT job sir ! You have saved me and countless others TONS of research. Thank you !!!

  • @santaclausnm
    @santaclausnm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You dont know how much this means to me!!! Life saver!!!! Been wanting this so badly but have no idea about what to buy so on so on. THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @udmbfckx2916
    @udmbfckx2916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The MB is an "endless money pit" (insert Scotty's face here)....Some poor soul had to replace the catalytic in his older diesel, an it was over $7K (WTH?) And the new diesel ones are more expensive and require "premier", VERY expensive maintenance, forget about repair$. Even if the older ones are still reliable, are you ready to pay another 50% of whatever you bought the used MB for in repairs? This one is for people above middle class and/or long term/high mileage commercial fleets....unless you are willing to buy the base 2.0 Turbo (it is still MB-maintenance expensive in the long term).Yes, they can last a long time, just be ready to give up your firstborn, right arm, left testicle, wife, etc....
    I don't see either the Ram Promaster nor the Ford Transit surviving well in the long run.
    The Promaster's Chrysler 3.6L- V6 is decent enough to last at least 100K and maybe even 150K if taken care of....The transmission? Not a chance! The cabin is one step ahead of the Ford although it suffers from some quirks.
    The Ford has lots of problems with the application of the hardware, little things falling apart here and there, the quality is rather sub-standard. And although the Ecoboost is a hoot to drive, remember that a boosted NON-DIESEL engine will not last as long as a turbo-diesel , most likely it will fail before the normally aspirated 3.7L engine. I rather have the 3.7 with HD parts, oil coolers, etc, in the same vein police and city cars are equipped, for longevity purposes. The bonus for Ford is the addition of AWD (but it doesn't mean off-road!)
    Ironically, this leaves one vehicle that was discarded from the get-go and one vehicle that was barely mentioned and was never in the competition.
    The Nissan Van is more reliably economical in the long run than anything above. Its biggest faults are that it is on the small end, drives more truckish-like and it is a dated design when compared with anything above. If I was to go small, this would be the one, but with Nissan's proven V6 and not the thirstier V8. Ex-CEO Carlos Ghosn was not able to screw-up the reliability like he has on other Nissan products. It would be perfect with a longer wheelbase.
    The Chevrolet Express did not qualify because of the lack of a hi-top, a valid point, but this can be fixed with a $4000 Fiberine top, which is the best quality out there, although it will never have the factory look. You have to consider that GM's LS-V8 "ancient-but-modern" engines and transmissions will last almost as long as the MB above but at a purchase price similar to the Ford or Promaster with the added benefit of a very low repair incidence and a very low repair cost. It is also a more "Heavy Duty" design than the Transit or Promaster, meaning sturdier components...Besides the lack of the high top, everything else outside the powertrain is very ancient (90's), the looks will be UTTERLY HATED by most young people, and the MPGs on the 6.0-V8 will be lower than the sixes and the diesel above. But this engine can be easily fixed ANYWHERE in North America and the cost to replace it, down the road when it dies after 220,000+ miles, together with the transmission, will be HALF of what some poor soul paid for an MB 'Cataclysmic' Catalytic. The Chevy comes in a 155 and 135 wheelbases.
    For all of the above, you have to consider your budget and your application. In my case I would like to get lost in the wilderness in the Chevy, knowing that I can depend on the hardware with no worries and that any engine issues can be fixed in any far-off small town garage since the engine has no complicated designs in the way of multiple valves, multiple overhead cams and turbos....it is just one simple pushrod V8 from the company that has manufactured the largest amount of small blocks V8s,

    • @blackreacher
      @blackreacher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got a promaster 1500 with 172000 miles and transmission works well. Just bought a 2500

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      None of these vans (except maybe the Sprinter) will have trouble being maintained even deep in the boonies--the local tradesmen and contractors will be driving them by the hundreds. Parts are as standard and as plentiful as anything GM makes. OHC and multiple valves are hardly complicated and any mechanic worth their salt will be familiar with them.
      As for the Promaster transmission, sure it's not going to last as long as a HD longitudinal one, but it's cheap to rebuild or replace. Just treat it as a 100K mile wear item.

  • @fromjarrod
    @fromjarrod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Either way your screwed their all relatively unreliable and expensive to repair. Wish Toyota had a crack at this van size market

    • @1voiceofstl
      @1voiceofstl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The caravan and the Pacifica are more reliable then the toyota.

  • @craigsmithx
    @craigsmithx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding. Extremely informative. The gfx of van sizes were excellant. Of the 20 some videos I've watched so far this one helped me the most. Thank you.

  • @tekkigizmo
    @tekkigizmo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! And very well presented, personally I chose a sprinter, extra long and extra high, 7 foot of headroom. Yes it had some major problems when I bought it, (back axle, front part of the exhaust, battery, brakes, no keys and it had been sitting 18 months) but now it runs great, it takes regular 200 mile trips to London with no problems and currently getting 49 miles per gallon (uk). Did I mention I got it really cheap.

  • @kalimanblack
    @kalimanblack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Be Honest.... The Mercedes Sprinter is a Piece of SHHH!! Avoid It!!

    • @lanceappleby5082
      @lanceappleby5082 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can buy a whole 50k Transit drivetrain for half the cost of a used 200k transit motor haha

  • @fozzynw9175
    @fozzynw9175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video bud!! Packed info and too the point. I really appreciated this. Thank you. I think I’m going to get a transit too. Time to make this my new home away from home! Thanks again!

  • @omalo3645
    @omalo3645 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful information. I appreciate how you lay things out and move along, several times I wondered something which you addressed next! I still am leaning towards an older (2007 and older) sprinter, part budget part quality...Thanks Moser!

  • @Idiot-Aboard
    @Idiot-Aboard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has got to be the best information video for van out there thanks