No it was not 1951, it was 1925 or so then a wildcat round. Then in 1969 Remington standardized the round and it came into production as a publicly available round.
My son, a teenager, shoots a Mossberg Patriot in .25-06 with Hornady Full Boar with 90 grain GMX bullets and they are devastating on wild hogs. Great video and great round.
I tried 117gr SST by Hornady my 1:10 rifle twist they don’t group near as good as the 100gr Ballistic Tips. I’ve taken wild hogs with the 85gr Ballistic Tip. Thank y’all for sharing be safe and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
My first deer rifle was a surplus mauser with a 30-06 barrel and a fixed 4 power Weaver. I saved my money and bought a new Weatherby Vanguard in 25-06 to hunt Venango County PA. 50+ years later a friend won a 25-06 Weatherby Vanguard in 25-06! I now have that rifle due to a trade. It is a tack driver and a killer. Yes, I hand load for multiple calibers and 25-06 is one of those calibers. It is a handloaders dream!
That is a great load. I go 120 grain Partitions in the 25-06 or 120 grain Speer Grand Slams. They work with the best of them and perform out of proportion to the caliber size. With these small calibers, it is always best to go heavy for caliber. Also, Federal really poops the bed with their velocities. Handloading these bullets is the best way to go.
@AlaskanBallistics I would like to find a box of handloaded 25/06 , With out and going and buying 4 or 5 boxes of ammo. If I chose 1 or 2 boxes what would your recommendation for 2 boxes of factory loads be
I have used federal premium 115 grain Nosler Partitions on whitetail deer out to 200 yds with complete pass troughs. shot placement is key. With a shoulder shot no tracking. Double lung may run 30yds with a good blood trail. Excellent round for what it is intended. Nosler Partitions is my go-to bullet in any Calibur for whitetail deer.
Worked exactly as advertised, and as designed. That front part comes off upon entry and does damage in whatever direction it travels and the back part continues to penetrate and do damage as it penetrates. As you mentioned, it was going pretty fast upon entry and some petals got tore off. Would like to see a larger diameter of the back half but a .30 hole will still leave lots of room for blood loss.
When the front part comes off it loses more than half of its mass, therefore half of its momentum/energy. Not my idea of a good large or medium game bullet.
@@workct4102 actually this is one of the best big game bullets ever made. That front half slipping off, means nothing other than it dumped a ton of energy within the target, sending chunks of lead in multiple paths throughout the animals chest. The smaller frontal area of what's left of the bullet allowed it to keep on driving deep and ensuring a higher chance of a pass thru the target. A bullet that perfectly mushrooms, slows down faster, losing energy faster. Think of it like a parachute. Or like throwing a football vs throwing a beachball. Which ones goes further? The football, with its smaller frontal area, it cuts thru the air, rather than resist it. That said, I can see the concern of thinking that the bullet failed to mushroom, but im pretty confident, that it over mushroomed, but its design allowed it to keep on penetrating, when standard soft points will typically just stop soon after full expansion.
I use 120gr grandslams in mine and have taken 4 moose with it with devastating effects on the vitals. This caliber really needs a 24 inch barrel minimum to start to shine.
Well maybe. I've got a R7600 pump with a 22" .25-06 barrel. The deer shot with it never took a step. Bullet was one of those "deadliest mushroom in the woods" things that Remington made. I'm very happy with it.
@@AlaskanBallistics If you don't mind packing a few ounces more weight, a 26" barrel really makes it shine. I just put one on mine and it seems to be worth about 100 fps, which may or may not be important to folks.
@@edjett2631 No "maybe" if you're using it for long range shooting. A 24" or 26" barrel will make a noticeably improvement in velocity and trajectory. Out to 300-350 yards or so it's not worth arguing over. Beyond that there's a definite benefit.
I hunt with a Remington 700 BDL ( inherited from late Uncle , made in the mid 1970's ) and I load a 100 grain Nosler Part. using 51.0 grains of IMR 4350 that gives 3050-3100 fps . Killed a lot of Deer over the years and I never recovered a bullet as beat up as that one . Luv your channel Chuck ! Keep this usable info flowing Brutha !
I’ve got the same gun exactly. Roughly same time period was built. Beautiful stock and appearance. Just curious, did you experiment with more grains of powder or did you stop at that weight and didn’t try anymore. I shoot Hornady 117 grain with 46.5 grain of Imr 4350. I never tried with more powder I figured it was shooting excellent there so I decided on that combo.
In addendum to previous comments. This test probably has more to say about Nosler Partition bullet performance in general than it does about the .25-06 cartridge per se, since that bullet design along with other special application and performance bullets have already long proven to expand or improve the game weight capacity of any given cartridge. Even those of us that have enough gun knowledge to have a gut instinct about a cartridge, tend to forget and ultimately base it's performance in general on fairly average "deer" bullets as opposed to the premiums. If using a smaller bore by necessity or preference on the heavier animals one would be highly advised to go with the best premium bullets you can get for the job. Partition is the starting place for sure.
I've still got a Ruger No1 in 25-06 but the shop that screwcut it for a sound mod messed up and my ground is noise sensitive so I have to suppress everything and yes sometimes that includes shotguns.
Pass throughs are what I experience under 200 yards with through the rib hits only, generally with < than 30 yds traveled. High shoulder hits tend to be DRT. Disrupts central nervous system.
Love me the .25 bores I have 25.06 and .257 weatherby in Remington action, my next custom rifle will be a 25.06 with Manners vertical grip stock and a Proof Research 26" carbon fiber wrapped barrel still contemplating the action . Will be my go to coyote/deer/caribou/sheep/goat/wolf rifle hopefully it'll like Nosler Acubonds 110grn.
@@AlaskanBallistics honestly that hasn’t been my experience with them on whitetail. The only bullet I didn’t get good blood on was ELDx in 6.5cm. I’ll never use that stuff again. I’ve used them in .280 Remington and 7mm-08 with good results
Looks like classic Partition performance. Partitions provide the sort of penetration that would allow the .25-’06 to be stretched from its proper standard bullet sort of use, pronghorns and small deer, to the large deer - Cervus elaphus canadensis (elk/wapiti) or Alces alces (moose). As you noted, a longer barrel is appropriate to the .25-’06.
Definitely a good whitetail or muley offering. You are experienced with Caribou. I would think this would be good for them. It may be ok for elk out to appropriate distance assuring good shot placement. Thanks
I don't hesitate to use partitions because they just work. They did exactly what they were designed to do in your tests also. To many bullets work at either their high velocity, or the lows, but fail at both. (You didn't test the low) You never know if that shot is going to be at 400 yards or at 14 and I want my bullet to work at both extremes. Thanks for the vid.
@@AlaskanBallistics You could try reducing the loads to mimic the velocities at longer ranges. But would anyone actually be interested? It takes work to do these tests and playing around with reduced loads has it's risks too, and I'm not about to ask anyone to do that.
Normal tapered jacketed bullets shed weight. People judge their performance by how much weight they lose. The Partition works differently. Most of the time, it loses the front half of the bullet completely. This is what creates all the shock. Then, the back half acts like a solid giving complete penetration. This is why they work so well at high and low velocities. A 180gr 30 cal Partition on Elk, goes in a 30cal hole, comes out a 30cal hole, and does massive damage in between. Because of this, I've used a 180 Partition in a 3006 for everything from hogs to Elk. They are a fabulous hunting bullet...
Looks great classic hunting bullet. It did exactly what it’s designed to do dump approximately 40% into the vitals and the core gives a exist. Perfect 👌
It's a great cartridge, and that is how the Partition is designed. Down here a lot of people use it for long range varmints, probably with tipped bullets. Conventional wisdom says it is fine for deer, antelope and hogs. Lots of elk hunters use it successfully too i hear, so it must bring the goods. I would lean toward this over a 6.5 Creedmoor, but i dearly love the idea of a 6.5x55 also. So much overlap among cartridges. But it is hard to go wrong with any proper centerfire.
Out of standard 22" barrels the creedmoor over takes the 25-06 in energy at 100 to 200 yards. But if you get a 1 in 8 twist barrel on the 25-06 you can get that b.c. up with the 131gr .257 bullet and really give the creedmoor a run for its money. I like the new 6.5 prc and love my 6.5x284 Norma.
Yes I would use it for hunting. In fact I have on many occasions. It's tough to judge partitions by measuring the part of one you might recover. Typically it will be just the rear section and that part will not be expanded at all. That missing front half however expanded and tore up half of hell. LOL! I used to shoot 160 gr Nosler Partitions out of a 7mm mag and that combo created more bang flop DRT kills than any other rifle/bullet combo I ever used.
Have you ever put the 120 grain Winchester positive expanding point factory load through the rib/jug/paper test? That’s been my load for 35 years for deer
@@AlaskanBallistics yeah it’s my understanding that the positive expanding point bullet they use in that load is the only use of that particular bullet. They developed it especially for the 25/06. It’s a great deer sized game bullet.
Five of the last six whitetails I've killed have been with my old Browning ABolt .25-06 and 110 grain Nosler Accubonds. All shots have been within 150 yards, the closest was 25, and I haven't recovered a single bullet. Muzzle velocity is 2950 average. I have some 115 gr Partitions loaded with the same amount of RL-22 but I haven't shot them. The Nosler Partition in my .240 Weatherby is darned fatal on plains mulies at ranges up to 350 yards. I plan on having the Partitions ready for the quarter-bore next season.
That Savage Axis probable has a 20" or 22" barrel . Pretty sure Federal test their barrels with 24" barrels to up their advertized velocities. That would explain the shortage in Ur test velocities with the Savage Axis . Plus, not all chronograhs are created equal. With that said, I'm still thinking its the Axis shorter barrel to blame for lesser velocities on Ur test. As far as penetration goes, Ur test proved plenty of penetration should the animal get up & run off. U will be able to follow blood with proper shot placement. Going thru ribs & 4 gallons of water + stopping approx 1" in wet news paper is more than enough penetration to follow blood from a 20-22" barrel from the Savage Axis. I say: good job Federal, keep up the good work.
Would certainly use it. Took it to South Africa on one trip, it was excellent . . . I used Nosler bullets, but bullet placement is the determining factor
Been using a nosler 100 gr partition for years and deer die quickly. Haven’t shot out past 350 but I haven’t lost anything with it, be it deer, pig, coyote. They all die quick with double lung or heart shot.
This bullet did exactly what it was designed to do. 40% of the bullet exploded to wreack havoc on the heart and lungs, and the other roughly 60% penatrated through "causing an exit wound for bleed out." This is still the best bullet EVER invented for hunting. From 25 yards up to around 400 yards this bullet is consistent. This bullet cartridge in a 25-06 is one of the deadlest combinations I've ever seen. I've only had my 25-06 for 6 years but the white tails I've killed with this combo have never walked 3 feet. DRT!!! All Of Them!! I can't explain why I just know what I have experienced. Oh and yes it loves the 24" barrel, but it isnt necessary unless you are distance shooting (20" will work)
Just wondering, which ammo manufacturers seem to be the most consistent? I agree federal premium is not all that premium, and hornady customs seems to customize each round? I don’t really want to find time to reload........who’s good, or should I say who sucks the least?
As far as standard deviation amongst loads, generally nosler trophy grade. Usually groups okay too but I've had some inconsistentwith them too really depends on what your rifle likes and the way that round fits your rifle
Have same rifle. I load the 100gr partition and bt. The partition here in PA more than enough for the game we have. I get 3240 avg 5 shot group right at .5 in size consistently. Gd vids.
Thank you for the video. To get the most consistent velocities should be taken from a cold barrel, your velocity check varried greatly with each shot fired The 25-06 is a high-performance round, so there should be a time lapse between each fired, with a light barrel as you have, perhaps, ten to fifteen minutes between each shot. Yes, I know that is a long time, but that is a very light barrel..
Doesn't affect velocity in other calibers when I take only a few seconds between each shot. I'm going to go ahead and say, as it often has been, federal's consistency. I typically don't get wide variations with my handloads or better factory ammo
I use 115 grain nosler ballistic tip in my 25 06 have never had a deer even take a step once hit and never lost a deer. Will be trying accubond 110 grain soon.
I would imagine at further distances that bullet would hold together better as velocity was shed. I bet it would perform very well in a hunting scenario. I wonder how a monolithic bullet would have performed in that test?
Fortunately I've got a box of 90gr hornady gmx to test. Also did gmx in a similar test in my .243 vs 6.5 creedmoor video. Have a .30-06 hmx video as well.
Need a 24 or 26 inch barrel for that ammo to work to numbers specified. The barrel on Savage is only 22 inch which is way short of recommended barrel length to shoot any 25-06 ammo.
Alaskan Ballistics always dreamed about coming up there and hunt moose and caribou. Couldn’t handle it now but I still have my.300 mag I bought for it. Hopefully the little one is letting you and momma get some sleep 😁
I have used this 115 gr.Nosler exclusively in my Remington BDL in 25/06 . I have taken 13 Mulies and 14 Pronghorns with my hand loads using this bullet . I sight my Rifle in at 200 yards and get 1 inch or less . I wouldn’t change anything for this Load .
@James that's kind of rude since you're the one making a weird claim, .270 can go from 85gr bullets up to 160gr bullets. .25-06 doesn't have that kind of bullet range. I like shooting .25-06, it'll do the job even on big moose, but then again so can .270
@John Gallagher , I have both and I have used both. It is because of my experiences with these cartridges that I have made that statement. Your experiences with the cartridges may cause you to come to a different conclusion.
@James so what experiences make it more versatile when it has lower bullet weights and ranges of weights? You're avoiding the question with a plat answer.
That Partition bullet did exactly as it was designed to, expand and dump a ton of energy, retain 50-60% of its weight to continue penetration through the animal. I would love to see you remove the bottle lids for subsequent tests, I’ve found in my own testing that it negatively effects the test results on penetration and expansion and the confined water acts differently than when the lids are off.
Alaskan Ballistics no worries. I understand. Maybe an idea for a video, to show difference between bottles with and without and how it effects the results? Food for thought.
I would use that on deer. My understanding, the Partition is supposed to have a soft nose for thin skinned game where you need expansion and a strong base for penetration on bigger animals. That said, it isn't as good as the newer bonded rounds but still delivers a good smack. On your SD, I did a 5 shot test with Hornaday Match 73gr ELD Match in 223 (90 degree day and range was in direct sun) with an SD of 9.1ish.
I wish you could find them with at least 24" barrels. Seems like you can't find anything with 24" barrels anymore. .25-06 is supposed to really need a 26" barrel but that's almost unheard of now.
@@AlaskanBallistics That's true! I only see them in heavy barrel, "range" rifles. I'm stupid, lol, after you said that, I forgot I have a 7 Mag with a 26" barrel myself. But again, it's a Remington 700 Long Range. Little heavy for hunting.
@@AlaskanBallistics Yeah, my wife has one of those, too. In 6.5C. It's 26", too. Heavy barrel. I guess I meant it's impossible to find your average hunting rifles in 26". Axis, Ruger American, etc. My wife had a .25-06 Tikka T3 but it was a 22". My FIL has a H&R Handi-Rifle in .25-06 with a 26" barrel though! They haven't made those in a long time.
I just started using the 115gr NP's in my 25-06 steadily for the past 2 deer seasons. I've taken 10 with it in those 2 seasons and 2 so far this season (3rd deer season is underway now). Probably half of the deer were DRT. The other half ran 30 yds or less and left great blood trails. I don't see this round being anything other than boringly reliable in the future. I love it and highly recommend. The problem here in the southeast US is that most people think they need a .30 caliber round to kill a deer. Jack O'Connor is rolling over in his grave.
Met a old timer that uses this load for his 25-06 ai he does 150 and in on elk. I prefer 6.5 and up. Creedmoor I'd use 156 norma oryx or the 140 gmx 300 winmag I use 175 barnes lrx
115 gr partition at 3k ft/sec will get you everything from whitetail to bull elk. For the deepest penetration, you should try the 120 gr Swift A Frame at 2900-3100 ft/sec. It is remarkable
Dumping energy in the animal or the ground behind it.....which do you prefer???? I've killed many animals with a 25/06 using 100 grain Nosler Partitions and a 300 Win Mag using 150 grain Nosler Partitions. It is an awesome bullet design.
Been using Nosler Partition 100 grains in my .243 for years. Killed dozens of deer with the bullet. It's made my .243 just as good as a 6.5, 260 or 270 under 250 yards with a LOT LESS recoil energy, meaning I can reliably take off hand shots with such a combo.
I have a couple of .25-06's and they generally shine best with 24" barrels. It is slightly overbore having a small hole and big powder charge. I think your chrono velocities would have looked better with the proper length barrel. When I use this ammo, I recorded velocities of 3075 average with both rifles. I have taken 3 N.W.T. Bull moose, several caribou and 3 black bears with mine. Almost all with 100gr X bullets. All but 2 went down with 1 shot. I had to shoot twice on 2 moose because they were headed for deep water and I didnt want the hassle of dragging them out (not again anyways)
Nice! It was a rifle ib got for $175 bucks. Used it in my 10k sub giveaway. You're right about the barrel length, but for $175, i didn't care lol. Now TheMainMan Channel has it.
What are your thoughts on that exact rifle? Want to replace my single shot 2506 with that one but not sure my current one has a 26 inch barrel and those only come with a 22. Both are not expensive guns so it is what it is just curious on your opinion.
It gets decent velocity with a 22" barrel but really needs longer. I only shot this rifle for a few videos and a few range sessions before I got rid of it during my 10k subscriber giveaway. I never got better than 1.5 moa, but that could have been me and not shooting it enough to find the right ammo that it likes. I bet it would improve if you handloaded.
I've never had a ,25-06. I do respect and like that cartridge. I really think it fills one whale of a cartridge niche. I'm just not so sure that includes elk, moose, or large bear. In that class of animal you essentially are hoping your .25-06 is going to deliver muscle more easily delivered by bigger calibers and heavier bullets. In that application I would consider a 130 grain .270 a much more practical step up. A lot of people wouldn't even stop there. If I was forced to say it, I'm guessing .25-06 would best be reserved for low density game averaging less than 400 pounds. Not that it can't deliver or hasn't delivered results, it's all about more consistent results. Bigger high sectional density bullets do bigger things on bigger targets under tough conditions.
@@AlaskanBallistics I did my test this evening at 10 yards away 115 grain Nosler partition it went into 5th milk jug and it retained 77.3 of its weight
The only round i like better is the 264wm I would use that load all day every day for deer elk and moose Great penetration and lots of energy dumped in the center.
I'd be happier loading the partition bullets myself and it would do for everything I can hunt in the UK. For cheap factory ammo I buy Privi and reload the brass.
@@AlaskanBallistics No issue currently getting components or ammo but the EU banned my favourite powder IMR4895 so I'm running stock down slowly and looking at CFE223
@@AlaskanBallistics sadly the rules on chemicals are in a treaty that we have yet to (if ever) tear up. Our Govts regardless of ilk have always slavishly adopted Eu rules and enforced them in a manner that the Germans would be proud of. Civil servants still think we work for them!
1951 technology still getting it done with the best of them. Love Nosler Partitions. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome. Thank you
45-70 ... 1873 still gets it done ! Old style !
@@danoneill2846 Darn straight my friend! The .45 acp on my hip agrees with you.
No it was not 1951, it was 1925 or so then a wildcat round. Then in 1969 Remington standardized the round and it came into production as a publicly available round.
Christina Nosler came out with the partition in 1951
Believe I saw a beeks up approval from the Eagle. These began the premium bullet search and are still hard to beat. Thank you JOHN NOSLER. R.I.P.
My go to bullet for big game. Great video as always. Keep up the great work.
Thank you very much sir. Can't beat nosler partitions
My son, a teenager, shoots a Mossberg Patriot in .25-06 with Hornady Full Boar with 90 grain GMX bullets and they are devastating on wild hogs. Great video and great round.
Those bullets would take any game in North America. I've got some to test. Got to borrow a rifle!
the only professional deer culler i've ever met exclusively shot 25-06.
It'll work. Fear the man who owns one rifle
My favorite cartridge AND my favorite bullet/weight for it.
Nice. Thank you for watching
Perfect deer and antelope cartridge in my 45 years of experience and you can never go wrong with the partition either.
Very true.
I tried 117gr SST by Hornady my 1:10 rifle twist they don’t group near as good as the 100gr Ballistic Tips. I’ve taken wild hogs with the 85gr Ballistic Tip. Thank y’all for sharing be safe and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
My first deer rifle was a surplus mauser with a 30-06 barrel and a fixed 4 power Weaver. I saved my money and bought a new Weatherby Vanguard in 25-06 to hunt Venango County PA. 50+ years later a friend won a 25-06 Weatherby Vanguard in 25-06! I now have that rifle due to a trade. It is a tack driver and a killer. Yes, I hand load for multiple calibers and 25-06 is one of those calibers. It is a handloaders dream!
What load do you shoot?
@@AlaskanBallistics Barnes 100gr TTSX, 60 gr Magpro, CCI mag primer, Winchester brass, Barnes #4 manual, cartridge OAL set to chamber
Barnes TTS X is my favorite bullet, Next to their LRX of course
That is a great load. I go 120 grain Partitions in the 25-06 or 120 grain Speer Grand Slams. They work with the best of them and perform out of proportion to the caliber size. With these small calibers, it is always best to go heavy for caliber. Also, Federal really poops the bed with their velocities. Handloading these bullets is the best way to go.
YEah I'll have to get into handloading them for sure, gotta get another 25-06 though
@AlaskanBallistics I would like to find a box of handloaded 25/06 , With out and going and buying 4 or 5 boxes of ammo. If I chose 1 or 2 boxes what would your recommendation for 2 boxes of factory loads be
100gr ttsx by barnes. The ttsx is longer for weight so they have to be lighter
Definitely a good deer round. Never used it myself but have been around other people who have. Does a good job. Thanks for the review.
You're welcome. Godspeed. Thanks for watching
I have used federal premium 115 grain Nosler Partitions on whitetail deer out to 200 yds with complete pass troughs. shot placement is key. With a shoulder shot no tracking. Double lung may run 30yds with a good blood trail. Excellent round for what it is intended. Nosler Partitions is my go-to bullet in any Calibur for whitetail deer.
It's a great hunting bullet
The 25-06 is one of my favorite rounds and I wouldn't hesitate using it for hunting.
Totally agreed
Thanks Chuck ! The 25-06 is still produced for a reason. I'd use it on deer no problem no elk around here.
I have a weatherby vanguard in 25-06 that loves that same ammo
Nice
Worked exactly as advertised, and as designed. That front part comes off upon entry and does damage in whatever direction it travels and the back part continues to penetrate and do damage as it penetrates. As you mentioned, it was going pretty fast upon entry and some petals got tore off. Would like to see a larger diameter of the back half but a .30 hole will still leave lots of room for blood loss.
Very true. Thank you for watching and the comment
Where have you ever seen or read about Nosler advertising this bullet breaking apart?
When the front part comes off it loses more than half of its mass, therefore half of its momentum/energy. Not my idea of a good large or medium game bullet.
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@@workct4102 actually this is one of the best big game bullets ever made. That front half slipping off, means nothing other than it dumped a ton of energy within the target, sending chunks of lead in multiple paths throughout the animals chest. The smaller frontal area of what's left of the bullet allowed it to keep on driving deep and ensuring a higher chance of a pass thru the target. A bullet that perfectly mushrooms, slows down faster, losing energy faster. Think of it like a parachute. Or like throwing a football vs throwing a beachball. Which ones goes further? The football, with its smaller frontal area, it cuts thru the air, rather than resist it. That said, I can see the concern of thinking that the bullet failed to mushroom, but im pretty confident, that it over mushroomed, but its design allowed it to keep on penetrating, when standard soft points will typically just stop soon after full expansion.
I use 120gr grandslams in mine and have taken 4 moose with it with devastating effects on the vitals. This caliber really needs a 24 inch barrel minimum to start to shine.
That's awesome. I want to test a 24"barrel!
Well maybe. I've got a R7600 pump with a 22" .25-06 barrel. The deer shot with it never took a step. Bullet was one of those "deadliest mushroom in the woods" things that Remington made. I'm very happy with it.
@@edjett2631 still works yes but it does need 24inch+ to take advantage of its speed.
@@AlaskanBallistics If you don't mind packing a few ounces more weight, a 26" barrel really makes it shine. I just put one on mine and it seems to be worth about 100 fps, which may or may not be important to folks.
@@edjett2631 No "maybe" if you're using it for long range shooting. A 24" or 26" barrel will make a noticeably improvement in velocity and trajectory. Out to 300-350 yards or so it's not worth arguing over. Beyond that there's a definite benefit.
I hunt with a Remington 700 BDL ( inherited from late Uncle , made in the mid 1970's ) and I load a 100 grain Nosler Part. using 51.0 grains of IMR 4350 that gives 3050-3100 fps . Killed a lot of Deer over the years and I never recovered a bullet as beat up as that one .
Luv your channel Chuck ! Keep this usable info flowing Brutha !
Thanks for the info
I’ve got the same gun exactly. Roughly same time period was built. Beautiful stock and appearance. Just curious, did you experiment with more grains of powder or did you stop at that weight and didn’t try anymore. I shoot Hornady 117 grain with 46.5 grain of Imr 4350. I never tried with more powder I figured it was shooting excellent there so I decided on that combo.
Thinking of 100 grain. Am I thinking wrong about 100
Depends on the bullet construction. Weight is nothing to design of the bullet.
@@AlaskanBallistics is the 100 to light for the 25/06. Banged up shoulder recoil
Again, one of best hunting bullets ever!!!
Very true
In addendum to previous comments. This test probably has more to say about Nosler Partition bullet performance in general than it does about the .25-06 cartridge per se, since that bullet design along with other special application and performance bullets have already long proven to expand or improve the game weight capacity of any given cartridge. Even those of us that have enough gun knowledge to have a gut instinct about a cartridge, tend to forget and ultimately base it's performance in general on fairly average "deer" bullets as opposed to the premiums. If using a smaller bore by necessity or preference on the heavier animals one would be highly advised to go with the best premium bullets you can get for the job. Partition is the starting place for sure.
I've still got a Ruger No1 in 25-06 but the shop that screwcut it for a sound mod messed up and my ground is noise sensitive so I have to suppress everything and yes sometimes that includes shotguns.
Pass throughs are what I experience under 200 yards with through the rib hits only, generally with < than 30 yds traveled. High shoulder hits tend to be DRT. Disrupts central nervous system.
Love me the .25 bores I have 25.06 and .257 weatherby in Remington action, my next custom rifle will be a 25.06 with Manners vertical grip stock and a Proof Research 26" carbon fiber wrapped barrel still contemplating the action .
Will be my go to coyote/deer/caribou/sheep/goat/wolf rifle hopefully it'll like Nosler Acubonds 110grn.
That'll be an awesome load for it!
I love my partitions for hunting, I doubt that will ever change 👊😎🇺🇸
Don't blame you
Regular ballistic tips are devastating on deer as well.
@Adam Elam but don't leave a good blood trail because they break apart
@@AlaskanBallistics honestly that hasn’t been my experience with them on whitetail. The only bullet I didn’t get good blood on was ELDx in 6.5cm. I’ll never use that stuff again.
I’ve used them in .280 Remington and 7mm-08 with good results
I hate eldx... the 160gr 7mm Rem mag was horrible on caribou.
Looks like classic Partition performance. Partitions provide the sort of penetration that would allow the .25-’06 to be stretched from its proper standard bullet sort of use, pronghorns and small deer, to the large deer - Cervus elaphus canadensis (elk/wapiti) or Alces alces (moose). As you noted, a longer barrel is appropriate to the .25-’06.
There are a lot of purple who use it for moose up here for sure
I'm so happy you are safe.
Thank you.
Would be cool if you can do more ammunition reviews of the 25-06
Sorry rifle was in my 10k subscribers giveaway. But i do have a friend with one and a few videos still to edit
Definitely a good whitetail or muley offering. You are experienced with Caribou. I would think this would be good for them. It may be ok for elk out to appropriate distance assuring good shot placement. Thanks
I agree. Caribou only need a decent whitetail round that holds together
I don't hesitate to use partitions because they just work. They did exactly what they were designed to do in your tests also. To many bullets work at either their high velocity, or the lows, but fail at both. (You didn't test the low) You never know if that shot is going to be at 400 yards or at 14 and I want my bullet to work at both extremes. Thanks for the vid.
Yeah unfortunately I don't have a place to test 400 yards... but you're right. Thanks for watching
@@AlaskanBallistics You could try reducing the loads to mimic the velocities at longer ranges. But would anyone actually be interested? It takes work to do these tests and playing around with reduced loads has it's risks too, and I'm not about to ask anyone to do that.
Honestly no... peyote probably wouldn't be interested
I belive the Ammo And Rifle Combination will serve me well. 🇺🇸👊👍🇺🇸
Pretty much
Normal tapered jacketed bullets shed weight. People judge their performance by how much weight they lose. The Partition works differently. Most of the time, it loses the front half of the bullet completely. This is what creates all the shock. Then, the back half acts like a solid giving complete penetration. This is why they work so well at high and low velocities. A 180gr 30 cal Partition on Elk, goes in a 30cal hole, comes out a 30cal hole, and does massive damage in between. Because of this, I've used a 180 Partition in a 3006 for everything from hogs to Elk. They are a fabulous hunting bullet...
They do work well
Looks great classic hunting bullet. It did exactly what it’s designed to do dump approximately 40% into the vitals and the core gives a exist. Perfect 👌
Agreed sir. Thank you
I’ve used this ammunition on two elk and it did a great job. I use the 100 grain partition and the Barnes x bullet with great success as well.
Nice. Good hunting my friend
It's a great cartridge, and that is how the Partition is designed. Down here a lot of people use it for long range varmints, probably with tipped bullets. Conventional wisdom says it is fine for deer, antelope and hogs. Lots of elk hunters use it successfully too i hear, so it must bring the goods. I would lean toward this over a 6.5 Creedmoor, but i dearly love the idea of a 6.5x55 also. So much overlap among cartridges. But it is hard to go wrong with any proper centerfire.
Out of standard 22" barrels the creedmoor over takes the 25-06 in energy at 100 to 200 yards.
But if you get a 1 in 8 twist barrel on the 25-06 you can get that b.c. up with the 131gr .257 bullet and really give the creedmoor a run for its money. I like the new 6.5 prc and love my 6.5x284 Norma.
Yes I would use it for hunting. In fact I have on many occasions. It's tough to judge partitions by measuring the part of one you might recover. Typically it will be just the rear section and that part will not be expanded at all. That missing front half however expanded and tore up half of hell. LOL! I used to shoot 160 gr Nosler Partitions out of a 7mm mag and that combo created more bang flop DRT kills than any other rifle/bullet combo I ever used.
Awesome. Happy hunting
And i have a video on the 7mm Rem Mag 160gr partitions too
Have you ever put the 120 grain Winchester positive expanding point factory load through the rib/jug/paper test? That’s been my load for 35 years for deer
No sir. Couldn't find it
@@AlaskanBallistics yeah it’s my understanding that the positive expanding point bullet they use in that load is the only use of that particular bullet. They developed it especially for the 25/06. It’s a great deer sized game bullet.
Yeah i gave this .25-06 away on a giveaway a few years ago so I won't be able to test them unfortunately.
Hand load it to keep the standard deviation down it helps with the velocity spread
What scale do you use?
Five of the last six whitetails I've killed have been with my old Browning ABolt .25-06 and 110 grain Nosler Accubonds. All shots have been within 150 yards, the closest was 25, and I haven't recovered a single bullet. Muzzle velocity is 2950 average. I have some 115 gr Partitions loaded with the same amount of RL-22 but I haven't shot them. The Nosler Partition in my .240 Weatherby is darned fatal on plains mulies at ranges up to 350 yards. I plan on having the Partitions ready for the quarter-bore next season.
Nice. Good luck hunting Brian! Either combo ought to work
That Savage Axis probable has a 20" or 22" barrel . Pretty sure Federal test their barrels with 24" barrels to up their advertized velocities. That would explain the shortage in Ur test velocities with the Savage Axis . Plus, not all chronograhs are created equal. With that said, I'm still thinking its the Axis shorter barrel to blame for lesser velocities on Ur test. As far as penetration goes, Ur test proved plenty of penetration should the animal get up & run off. U will be able to follow blood with proper shot placement. Going thru ribs & 4 gallons of water + stopping approx 1" in wet news paper is more than enough penetration to follow blood from a 20-22" barrel from the Savage Axis. I say: good job Federal, keep up the good work.
You're correct, 22" barrel is too short for the over-bored cartridgre
Great video Chuck brother
Would certainly use it. Took it to South Africa on one trip, it was excellent . . . I used Nosler bullets, but bullet placement is the determining factor
Agreed. Glad you had a successful hunt
I will use it one day for sure because I have 500rds of 64gr partitions in .223, hope they will do whatever I need them to do😉👍🇺🇸
They will do a great job but they'll mar up the soft point on an ar feed ramps , end up not being that accurate because of that.
NP's are the only bullet I like to shoot. 130's for my .270, 150's for my .308 and 120's for my .257 Roberts.
Awesome. They're great rounds
Been using a nosler 100 gr partition for years and deer die quickly. Haven’t shot out past 350 but I haven’t lost anything with it, be it deer, pig, coyote. They all die quick with double lung or heart shot.
Thanks for sharing n God bless.
You too brother
This bullet did exactly what it was designed to do. 40% of the bullet exploded to wreack havoc on the heart and lungs, and the other roughly 60% penatrated through "causing an exit wound for bleed out." This is still the best bullet EVER invented for hunting. From 25 yards up to around 400 yards this bullet is consistent. This bullet cartridge in a 25-06 is one of the deadlest combinations I've ever seen. I've only had my 25-06 for 6 years but the white tails I've killed with this combo have never walked 3 feet. DRT!!! All Of Them!! I can't explain why I just know what I have experienced. Oh and yes it loves the 24" barrel, but it isnt necessary unless you are distance shooting (20" will work)
Thanks for sharing your experience. I guess i was expecting more if a perfect mushroom.
Please share where Nosler describes 50% weight retention, and half bullet break off...
Just wondering, which ammo manufacturers seem to be the most consistent? I agree federal premium is not all that premium, and hornady customs seems to customize each round? I don’t really want to find time to reload........who’s good, or should I say who sucks the least?
As far as standard deviation amongst loads, generally nosler trophy grade. Usually groups okay too but I've had some inconsistentwith them too really depends on what your rifle likes and the way that round fits your rifle
Alaskan Ballistics Thanks! You know you are the only youtuber I know of that responds....almost instantly, every time I’ve ever commented🤣😂
Yeah i have no life🤪 lol no ni just try my best. I'm just a regular dude like most of y'all
Why did you shoot the water from so far away? Just curious. Is it to simulate hunting distance or for Safety purpose?
65 yards... hunting distance.
And that's close... i wish i had the space to do it at 300 500 and 1000 yards
@@AlaskanBallistics 300 and 500 would be plenty. I don't feel anyone needs to be shooting at game at 1000 yds. Actually 500 is too much for me.
Yeah ive taken a shot successfully at 459 yards... i hope to do 500 yard Ballistics gel tests this summer
Have same rifle. I load the 100gr partition and bt. The partition here in PA more than enough for the game we have.
I get 3240 avg 5 shot group right at .5 in size consistently.
Gd vids.
Nice! I have the rifle away on a giveaway...
Thank you for the video. To get the most consistent velocities should be taken from a cold barrel, your velocity check varried greatly with each shot fired
The 25-06 is a high-performance round, so there should be a time lapse between each fired, with a light barrel as you have, perhaps, ten to fifteen minutes between each shot. Yes, I know that is a long time, but that is a very light barrel..
Doesn't affect velocity in other calibers when I take only a few seconds between each shot. I'm going to go ahead and say, as it often has been, federal's consistency. I typically don't get wide variations with my handloads or better factory ammo
Appreciate the Ideas though. Thank you
The factory data probably comes from a 24” barrel. That’s the minimum recommended barrel length for good performance in the 25-06.
Especially in this caliber
Thanks for the review
You're welcome
I use 115 grain nosler ballistic tip in my 25 06 have never had a deer even take a step once hit and never lost a deer. Will be trying accubond 110 grain soon.
That 110 accubond can kill anything in North America
Thanks
I use the same rifle and that bullet as well as the accu bond and ballistic tips. All fantastic rounds and haven't had a deer run more then 20yrds.
Nice
Dam near perfect whitetail, round. Also the norma bond strike are dandy. I like the bondstrike lil better. Knocks a nice hole in whitetail
Nice i can't get those bullets. I like the accubond long range though
To be fair, it probably had tons of expansion before it was folded back and shed.
Most definitely
I would imagine at further distances that bullet would hold together better as velocity was shed. I bet it would perform very well in a hunting scenario. I wonder how a monolithic bullet would have performed in that test?
Fortunately I've got a box of 90gr hornady gmx to test. Also did gmx in a similar test in my .243 vs 6.5 creedmoor video. Have a .30-06 hmx video as well.
Need a 24 or 26 inch barrel for that ammo to work to numbers specified. The barrel on Savage is only 22 inch which is way short of recommended barrel length to shoot any 25-06 ammo.
As I figured. Thank you for watching
I am so out of the loop with these calibers. Look at all that powder behind that lead. Good stuff
Great round man.
John did us all a service when he created the nosler partition .
Yes he did!
I’d have no issues with it for medium game up to blackbear with that weight. Could also double as a coyote,groundhog , or antelope with no problem.
Plenty of people have shot moose with it. But in general i agree
Alaskan Ballistics always dreamed about coming up there and hunt moose and caribou. Couldn’t handle it now but I still have my.300 mag I bought for it.
Hopefully the little one is letting you and momma get some sleep 😁
No such luck on the sleep
Thanks for the vid ,I was wondering how .25 partition would expand 👍
Does great. People kill moose with it all the time.
I love federal ammo they make amazing ammo
Sometimes
I have used this 115 gr.Nosler exclusively in my Remington BDL in 25/06 . I have taken 13 Mulies and 14 Pronghorns with my hand loads using this bullet . I sight my Rifle in at 200 yards and get 1 inch or less . I wouldn’t change anything for this Load .
I wouldn't either! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours. People use that combo for moose up here
Hell yes! I would not have any problem with using it.
Me either
How did the 2506 work out for you. Here in ky cant use 25/06 for elk. Has to be 270 or bigger.
I gave it away a long time ago in my 10k Sub give away. I never hunted with it. Plenty of people use it for moose and caribou here though.
FWIW, I have both the .25 Oh 6 and the .270. Both are excellent. The .25 Oh 6 is more versatile, but both do an excellent job on big game.
@John Gallagher I was wondering that myself...?
@John Gallagher, you'll have to do your own research. You can't expect to be spoon-fed everything.
@James that's kind of rude since you're the one making a weird claim, .270 can go from 85gr bullets up to 160gr bullets.
.25-06 doesn't have that kind of bullet range. I like shooting .25-06, it'll do the job even on big moose, but then again so can .270
@John Gallagher , I have both and I have used both. It is because of my experiences with these cartridges that I have made that statement. Your experiences with the cartridges may cause you to come to a different conclusion.
@James so what experiences make it more versatile when it has lower bullet weights and ranges of weights? You're avoiding the question with a plat answer.
Good deer cartridge for youth, didn't know it would work on a Moose.
Velocity, accuracy and bullet construction can take down anything over bullet weight and diameter.
@@AlaskanBallistics that is true
That Partition bullet did exactly as it was designed to, expand and dump a ton of energy, retain 50-60% of its weight to continue penetration through the animal.
I would love to see you remove the bottle lids for subsequent tests, I’ve found in my own testing that it negatively effects the test results on penetration and expansion and the confined water acts differently than when the lids are off.
Okay we'll see... got a lot of videos to edit with them already in there. Thanks for the suggestion.
Alaskan Ballistics no worries. I understand. Maybe an idea for a video, to show difference between bottles with and without and how it effects the results? Food for thought.
Maybe. Ballistics gel is expensive though
Alaskan Ballistics that’s the best part, no gel needed, you just need enough bottles to show how they perform when you have lids on and lids off!
My weatherby has a 24 inch barrel
Yeah that should be the minimum barrel length in this cartridge
I would use that on deer. My understanding, the Partition is supposed to have a soft nose for thin skinned game where you need expansion and a strong base for penetration on bigger animals. That said, it isn't as good as the newer bonded rounds but still delivers a good smack. On your SD, I did a 5 shot test with Hornaday Match 73gr ELD Match in 223 (90 degree day and range was in direct sun) with an SD of 9.1ish.
Nice sd
I'm betting the temp after being fired madd the fps lower..
Nope shorter barrel
I wish you could find them with at least 24" barrels.
Seems like you can't find anything with 24" barrels anymore.
.25-06 is supposed to really need a 26" barrel but that's almost unheard of now.
Agreed though my 7mm Rem mag is a 26" and my 6.5x284 Norma is a 26" barrel.
@@AlaskanBallistics That's true! I only see them in heavy barrel, "range" rifles.
I'm stupid, lol, after you said that, I forgot I have a 7 Mag with a 26" barrel myself. But again, it's a Remington 700 Long Range. Little heavy for hunting.
Mine was a Remington 700 adl that i made heavy by putting the magpul stock on it.
I also have a savage 110 switch in 6.5prc. It has a 26in barrel but the last 1." Is a muzzle brake
@@AlaskanBallistics Yeah, my wife has one of those, too. In 6.5C. It's 26", too. Heavy barrel.
I guess I meant it's impossible to find your average hunting rifles in 26". Axis, Ruger American, etc. My wife had a .25-06 Tikka T3 but it was a 22".
My FIL has a H&R Handi-Rifle in .25-06 with a 26" barrel though! They haven't made those in a long time.
Yes I would use the partition. Thanks
Thank you for watching. And the Comment. Godspeed.
I just started using the 115gr NP's in my 25-06 steadily for the past 2 deer seasons. I've taken 10 with it in those 2 seasons and 2 so far this season (3rd deer season is underway now). Probably half of the deer were DRT. The other half ran 30 yds or less and left great blood trails. I don't see this round being anything other than boringly reliable in the future. I love it and highly recommend. The problem here in the southeast US is that most people think they need a .30 caliber round to kill a deer. Jack O'Connor is rolling over in his grave.
I killed six whitetail in Ga with a .223 ar15 with 55gr vmax. Grew up in Georgia. I did brainstem shoot thenm. No meat ruined, no tracking needed.
Met a old timer that uses this load for his 25-06 ai he does 150 and in on elk. I prefer 6.5 and up. Creedmoor I'd use 156 norma oryx or the 140 gmx 300 winmag I use 175 barnes lrx
I just got some Norma Oryx to test in my 6.5x284
@@AlaskanBallistics i feel like it will be a great elk round or Caribou
It will be
Nice results
115 gr partition at 3k ft/sec will get you everything from whitetail to bull elk.
For the deepest penetration, you should try the 120 gr Swift A Frame at 2900-3100 ft/sec. It is remarkable
Yeah it I'd love to try those
Very well done video btw 👍
Thank you very much.
Good stuff!
Great deer round
Yes sir.
Dumping energy in the animal or the ground behind it.....which do you prefer????
I've killed many animals with a 25/06 using 100 grain Nosler Partitions and a 300 Win Mag using 150 grain Nosler Partitions. It is an awesome bullet design.
A bullet going all the way through instantly drops blood pressure
Been using Nosler Partition 100 grains in my .243 for years. Killed dozens of deer with the bullet. It's made my .243 just as good as a 6.5, 260 or 270 under 250 yards with a LOT LESS recoil energy, meaning I can reliably take off hand shots with such a combo.
Not a bad choice
Though the difference in recoil between 243 and 6.5 is so minimal
perfect whitetail round
Yep. People have killed moose up here often with it.
Your 25-06 rifle looks identical to mine. It's a good shooter.
I have it away in a channel giveaway. Mine didn't get better than 1.5 moa
I have had great success with 180 gr nosler partition bullets in a 30.06.
They work
I would use this for hunting
Me too
I have a couple of .25-06's and they generally shine best with 24" barrels. It is slightly overbore having a small hole and big powder charge. I think your chrono velocities would have looked better with the proper length barrel. When I use this ammo, I recorded velocities of 3075 average with both rifles. I have taken 3 N.W.T. Bull moose, several caribou and 3 black bears with mine. Almost all with 100gr X bullets. All but 2 went down with 1 shot. I had to shoot twice on 2 moose because they were headed for deep water and I didnt want the hassle of dragging them out (not again anyways)
Nice! It was a rifle ib got for $175 bucks. Used it in my 10k sub giveaway. You're right about the barrel length, but for $175, i didn't care lol. Now TheMainMan Channel has it.
It’s the great 25-0sexy
What are your thoughts on that exact rifle? Want to replace my single shot 2506 with that one but not sure my current one has a 26 inch barrel and those only come with a 22. Both are not expensive guns so it is what it is just curious on your opinion.
It gets decent velocity with a 22" barrel but really needs longer. I only shot this rifle for a few videos and a few range sessions before I got rid of it during my 10k subscriber giveaway. I never got better than 1.5 moa, but that could have been me and not shooting it enough to find the right ammo that it likes. I bet it would improve if you handloaded.
Trigger is nice. The scope and mounts it comes with is junk. Especially in v really cold weather
This rifle did not shake the table as much as many rifles you test do , from the blast !
Yeah .2506 is pretty mild
It worked exactly like it is supposed to.
Oh yeah
I've never had a ,25-06. I do respect and like that cartridge. I really think it fills one whale of a cartridge niche. I'm just not so sure that includes elk, moose, or large bear. In that class of animal you essentially are hoping your .25-06 is going to deliver muscle more easily delivered by bigger calibers and heavier bullets. In that application I would consider a 130 grain .270 a much more practical step up. A lot of people wouldn't even stop there. If I was forced to say it, I'm guessing .25-06 would best be reserved for low density game averaging less than 400 pounds. Not that it can't deliver or hasn't delivered results, it's all about more consistent results. Bigger high sectional density bullets do bigger things on bigger targets under tough conditions.
Agreed in general, but this test shows it will do what it needs to on a moose... ?
Yes I would use it and I'm going to load me up some of those for mine and do a milk jug test myself
Cool. Let me know how it goes
@@AlaskanBallistics I did my test this evening at 10 yards away 115 grain Nosler partition it went into 5th milk jug and it retained 77.3 of its weight
Nice!!! Thanks for sharing
The only round i like better is the 264wm
I would use that load all day every day for deer elk and moose
Great penetration and lots of energy dumped in the center.
That's a sweet round for sure
It would be great on big Wyoming mule deer with good shot placement. I want it to go all the way through the animal.
This would probably do it
Yes I would use it for hunting long as I had a good group I would hunt Moose elk Pizza
Are use it for hunting
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The penetration was great, but losing about half it's mass and the standard deviation definitely were lack luster. Excellent as always Chuck 👍🇺🇸
Thanks brother
I'd be happier loading the partition bullets myself and it would do for everything I can hunt in the UK. For cheap factory ammo I buy Privi and reload the brass.
That's what privi is good for i think , reloading the brass. Can you still get primers over there?
@@AlaskanBallistics No issue currently getting components or ammo but the EU banned my favourite powder IMR4895 so I'm running stock down slowly and looking at CFE223
Thought y'all were no longer apart of the EU?
SUCKS you can't get powder. I can't get rl22 or rl26 because Noone can get it imported right now.
@@AlaskanBallistics sadly the rules on chemicals are in a treaty that we have yet to (if ever) tear up. Our Govts regardless of ilk have always slavishly adopted Eu rules and enforced them in a manner that the Germans would be proud of. Civil servants still think we work for them!
Sounds bad. It's leaking that way here
Would be interesting to see this test repeated at 100 and 200 yds. My guess is expansion would be quite good.
Agreed.. gotta find a place to shoot that far