Thank you for this video! I am finishing up my bachelor's degree in Psychology and looking to go into the ABSN program. It takes hard work to get to where you want to go but the victory is sweet!
@@healingforanewlife1 Me too! Finishing my bachelor's in Psychology this December :) but deciding to go the nursing route and most likely the ABSN route but it's awesome that there are more options now than there were back then!
some programs, like Columbia and Hopkins, have accelerated masters program for non-nursing grads that doesn’t necessarily require students to go into the np program. For the one that I applied to, Columbia, you can finish the accelerated MDE in 15 months and graduate with an MSN degree. With this MSN, you can sit to take the NCLEX to become an RN. After this program, you can either go into their PHd NP program, doctorate NP program, or choose to have MSN as your terminal degree and practice as an RN. I believe Hopkins is some what similar. These masters direct entry programs are basically the same as the ABSN program, in terms of the time it takes to finish the program, except that with the masters direct entry, you will graduate with a masters degree rather than another bachelors.
Thank you so much for your input! I really love all the flexibility that these degree programs provide! You're definitely not "stuck" with only becoming an NP. I know a few people who have changed their MSN focus to education instead. There are so many options are available. Thank you for watching!
Great video! I have a bachelors degree in Business and I want to become a NP. I have been accepted to a BSNA program. A little nervous but excited at the same time.
Thank You! It was much needed for me to listen. I do have a Bachelor's Degree in Health Science and interested in the MDE / Midwivery program at Columbia University School of Nursing 🦋🌼☀✨🌟💛🌻
I just graduated college with a BS in Bio, but I want to apply to an accelerated nursing program and receive my MS in Midwifery to earn my CNM credential. I’ve seen at a school that it’s called the FACT/Midwifery Program and I’m so nervous and a little lost rn, but I’m praying that God will put the opportunities in my past and lead me in the right direction 🙏🏾
i want to do nurse informatics right away. im on my way to get the BS BA non nursing. what should i do? ABSN or MSN direct entry? i want to eventually become CNS NP. what is my route i should take? i never thought to do direct entry MSN, thanks now i know and it totally transformed my application process.
So I’m doing a 360. I’ve finished a B.S. in Environmental Science, and I am interested in opening a medical spa one day but I feel so lost in this new world of medicine, How would I go about it if in the end goal I’d like to have an MD to eventually own the practice? Which of these would be the best for me? Thank you anyone! Making the most of my lemonade.
Yessss, follow your dreams! I'll try to give you a quick rundown based on your end goal of owning a medical spa. Now, depending on where you live you can own your own medical spa as an NP, I know of two who opened their own, but one opened one here in California ( we can't necessarily own our own practice here ) however if its a business you can still own your business, you would just need a collaborating physician, but that's if you choose to stick with NP. If you want to be an M.D. I would say start prepping for med school ASAP, because of how long the process is.
Ahhh currently finishing my apps for UCLA and Western U's entry level programs! I am struggling with my essays though, its so hard to try to convince someone why I should be accepted haha. I also want to be an NP
I feel you, starting was the hardest part! If it helps, I honestly just brain dumped onto a google do everything I thought would be good to contribute as it came to mind. It would be like 3 am and I just had the urge to write. Then I went back and read over it, tried to create a flow, then next thing you know the essay was born lol. Best of luck on your journey, thank you for subscribing as well! I can't wait to hear your good news in the future!
@@TheDanielleDenise Sorry I have a quick but important question. How did you address the school you applied to being that you attended there for undergrad? I'm trying to figure out how to tell them that since I am an alumni of the school, it would make me an even better candidate. Do you get me? Haha
@@Elymichie Not even gonna lie, I didn't. I talked about it a little in my personal statement video, but I completely brushed over it... probably because I just made the assumption that from my transcripts and stuff they already knew. But if I could go back I would mention something about how I always heard how great the program was or something like that.
Great info. I was applying for an accelerated BSN program but my goal is to become an NP. Which program are you doing for the ABSN/MSN. I would love to look into that.
Love your channel! New subbie. I also aspire to be a Psych NP but I live in GA & there aren’t any Direct entry psych NP Programs out here. I’m looking into a direct entry program like yours (BSN-MSN), but wanted to know if I can do that? And just do a generalist track? 1 school I’m looking at has 9 specialties but none are psych 🙄
Thank you for subbing, welcome!! You can totally pursue a program like mine if you already have your Bachelors in another field. If you're having trouble finding a direct entry program, I would try to find an ABSN and then apply to a traditional masters program, or if you're willing to travel, check out some schools out of state.
Loved your video girl! And thanks for getting right to the point lol quick and informative! Good luck in your nursing school journey! I'm thinking of doing the DE-MSN program now instead of just the ABSN! New subscriber here! ❤️ Also whats your intro/outro music I love it!
@@TheDanielleDenise I got accepted for ABSN and AMSN programs. I am having a tough time to chose one but after watching your video I am settling for AMSN since I am 34. Thank you so much for the inspiration!
I am looking for a program like yours that is just one program that will take me all the way through to NP- I have a non- nursing bachelors and my endgame is NP. I live in California, and I cannot find any programs like this in my state....do you know of any schools in California with programs like this?
Hey! In this video : th-cam.com/video/yxBGoN3NxPc/w-d-xo.html I showed how you can find a full list of schools through the AACN based on the type of program you're looking for and the state. I hope this helps!
Nice video! I’m a non nursing student with a bachelors degree. My end goal is to achieve my MSN and advance in a CRNA program! Do you have any tips on what route I should go?
Thank you for watching! So for CRNA, it gets tricky because they're so picky with those programs and in most cases, at the minimum, they expect you to have at least 1-3 years of experience in the ICU before applying. So this is my recommendation, and you do not have to follow this, but I would say do an ABSN so you can start working and getting that experience in and then start applying to CRNA programs. I hope that helps!
Hiii! I’m watching again and have a question. If I choose the BSN/MSN program do I have to sit for boards immediately or can I just work as a nurse? Bc I’m thinking I want to do that but I go back and fourth with being an NP or becoming CRNA.
Hey! Thanks for watching and thanks for your question! So if you choose an ELMSN similar to mine you'll take the NCLEX first, which is needed to become an RN before you move on to NP or CRNA. YOu can definitely work as a nurse after that and take your time to see which field you want to go into. If you do a straight to NP MSN only program you'll already be committed to the track you choose before you start. You wont have to worry about NP or CRNA boards until the very end of your program. I'd go with an ABSN and work a little until you see what you want, you dont have to choose that but it's an option! Best of luck!
Hey Danielle, loveeeedddd your video, I live in Illinois & want to become a NP......have a Bachelors in Pharmaceutical Sciences....... but can’t find these programs you’re talking about........ can you help me guide in the right direction
Heeeey thanks for watching! So when you search for these programs, what will help is typing in the search the full name of the type of program not just the abbreviation. So for ELMSN, you'll have to search " Entry Level Master of Science in Nursing " or " Accelerated Bachelor of Science in Nursing". Try typing it like that or just copy and paste that and try it like that. Also, the Board of Registered Nursing has a list of accredited programs that you can search for.
Hi Danielle Denise! Thank you so much for this informative and inspiring video. Thank you for the motivation and encouragement! I wish you success with your studies and career. Can you please share the name of your school?
La Perle des Antilles! Thank youuuu for watching ✨ I’m unable to share my school due to our social media policy but I think you found my vid on how to find the right program for you, I hope it’s helpful!
maymuna liban Hey! I uploaded a video recently of how to find programs similar to mine th-cam.com/video/iLs7SpWpXis/w-d-xo.html . I’m not sure why certain programs don’t offer both , because most hospitals are looking for a BSN as well. I don’t have a full list on hand but if there is a program you’re really interested in feel free to call and ask even if it’s hard to find on the website.
I know that some schools have different policies. It is usually under the admissions tab on school websites and they list specific instructions for international applicants. It is doable!
Hello! My goal is to become a nurse practitioner, and I am a senior in undergrad hoping to go back to school after (I don't have a degree related to nursing). What exact name should I be typing into google to see a program where I can get the BSN and MSN to sit for NP boards? Also what programs would you recommend I look at for something like that? I was just confused about the exact name I should be looking for when searching the web.
Hey!! So these specific programs are for students that have already gotten a four year/ undergraduate degree or Masters degree as a career change. Since you are coming out of high school you can choose to go into a traditional BSN program or an Associate degree RN program and then pursue an advanced nursing degree. I hope this helps! Even if you’re not feeling nursing there are some bridge bachelors to advanced degree programs for other medical fields as well!
The Danielle Denise Hey! Actually I am a Senior in college about to graduate from University in May 2020 with my bachelors degree. Is there programs for people like that?
@@ania.2377 My Apologies! Yes, that's the kind of program I'm in! You can try searching any of the options listed in the title or thumbnail, but I would try searching by their unabbreviated titles. Accelerated Bachelor of Science in Nursing, Entry Level Masters of Science in Nursing or Direct Entry Masters of Science in Nursing.
Hi I’m so confused don’t know what to do. I have a BA in Psych and would like to be a nurse. I’m a mom and wife and would like to buy a house in the future. Should I apply to a ADN, ABSN, or Entry level Masters in Nursing? I’m almost done with my prerequisites. I’m scared of getting a loan because I’m low income. Thanks!
Hi!! I would say take your time and really map out a plan. Try to base your decision on what will be financially appropriate for your situation. You can get an ADN-RN and it can take less time, cost less, but you might make a little less than someone who got their BSN. But if that the case and you want more, you can always go back and do an RN to BSN program after you've already started working in the field and making money. This is just an example and it applies to each level. Honestly, continue to research and try to plan accordingly to your financial situation. There are many options to become a nurse!
I am also in the same situation. I have 3 teenagers and wife. I have BA but I would like to absn but it is expensive for me . I am going for adn. My boss rn told me the difference bsn and adn is only $1000 a year because they do the same job. Adn to bsn online is 6 months wgu.
@@TheDanielleDenise I received a degree in Evangelism from a school that has shut down and I do not know how to request an official transcripts, which school will accept the unofficial transcripts for me to do this program you described in your video?
Rosalyn Abankwah th-cam.com/video/yxBGoN3NxPc/w-d-xo.html this video has a link to a website with all the schools by state. Towards the end of the video I have a tutorial for how to navigate the website
Not only that. But, in my opinion, if you’re an employer and you have 3 newly grad applicants (one with associates, one with bachelors, and one with a master) which one would be more competitive? Maybe it might not matter so much between someone with a bachelors and masters but it’ll definitely matter between those two and someone with an associates degree. But then again I’m only saying this to appeal to those who already have a bachelors degree and want to become an Rn. If you don’t have a degree then this doesn’t completely apply to you.
Thank you for this video! I am finishing up my bachelor's degree in Psychology and looking to go into the ABSN program. It takes hard work to get to where you want to go but the victory is sweet!
Yessss the sweet sweet victory! Best of luck on your journey, you got this!
@@TheDanielleDenise Thank you, you too!
@@healingforanewlife1 Me too! Finishing my bachelor's in Psychology this December :) but deciding to go the nursing route and most likely the ABSN route but it's awesome that there are more options now than there were back then!
@@MusicSashaLoves Exactly! As long as you stay focused on what your goals are, it can be done. Congratulations on finishing your degree!
some programs, like Columbia and Hopkins, have accelerated masters program for non-nursing grads that doesn’t necessarily require students to go into the np program. For the one that I applied to, Columbia, you can finish the accelerated MDE in 15 months and graduate with an MSN degree. With this MSN, you can sit to take the NCLEX to become an RN. After this program, you can either go into their PHd NP program, doctorate NP program, or choose to have MSN as your terminal degree and practice as an RN. I believe Hopkins is some what similar. These masters direct entry programs are basically the same as the ABSN program, in terms of the time it takes to finish the program, except that with the masters direct entry, you will graduate with a masters degree rather than another bachelors.
Thank you so much for your input! I really love all the flexibility that these degree programs provide! You're definitely not "stuck" with only becoming an NP. I know a few people who have changed their MSN focus to education instead. There are so many options are available. Thank you for watching!
I’m looking Into applying for Columbia’s MDE program, do you have any tips?
Are these programs in person or online?
University of Toledo in Ohio has a similar program as well
I’m a social worker with a MSW but my dream has always been becoming a midwife/WHNP. I have to do the science prerequisites first
Social Work is such a lovely field as well as well as Midwifery and WHNP! I hope you find joy in pursuing your dream!
Great video! I have a bachelors degree in Business and I want to become a NP. I have been accepted to a BSNA program. A little nervous but excited at the same time.
Angela Reed congratulations!!! I hope you enjoy your program!
Wow you’re the real MVP! Doing BSN and MSN NP In one program 😀
Great video!! I just finish my third semester of my absn program. One more left. I wish my school had a combine program. Good luck!!
Thank you so much! Good Luck finishing out your program, you got this!!
You deserve more support/views! Best of luck 💗
That is so sweet of you to say, thank you so much!!
Thank You! It was much needed for me to listen. I do have a Bachelor's Degree in Health Science and interested in the MDE / Midwivery program at Columbia University School of Nursing 🦋🌼☀✨🌟💛🌻
That sounds like a lovely choice! Best of luck to you!
@@TheDanielleDenise Thank You very much for your well wishes it is so much needed ⭐☀🌻🌟✨💛🌼🌞
I just graduated college with a BS in Bio, but I want to apply to an accelerated nursing program and receive my MS in Midwifery to earn my CNM credential. I’ve seen at a school that it’s called the FACT/Midwifery Program and I’m so nervous and a little lost rn, but I’m praying that God will put the opportunities in my past and lead me in the right direction 🙏🏾
I wish you the best in choosing your program and achieving your goals, YOU GOT THIS!
The Danielle Denise thank you so much
I'm interested in that accelerated program to be a NP
Definitely check it out to see if you want to follow through.
i want to do nurse informatics right away. im on my way to get the BS BA non nursing. what should i do? ABSN or MSN direct entry? i want to eventually become CNS NP. what is my route i should take? i never thought to do direct entry MSN, thanks now i know and it totally transformed my application process.
So I’m doing a 360. I’ve finished a B.S. in Environmental Science, and I am interested in opening a medical spa one day but I feel so lost in this new world of medicine, How would I go about it if in the end goal I’d like to have an MD to eventually own the practice? Which of these would be the best for me? Thank you anyone! Making the most of my lemonade.
Yessss, follow your dreams! I'll try to give you a quick rundown based on your end goal of owning a medical spa. Now, depending on where you live you can own your own medical spa as an NP, I know of two who opened their own, but one opened one here in California ( we can't necessarily own our own practice here ) however if its a business you can still own your business, you would just need a collaborating physician, but that's if you choose to stick with NP. If you want to be an M.D. I would say start prepping for med school ASAP, because of how long the process is.
Ahhh currently finishing my apps for UCLA and Western U's entry level programs! I am struggling with my essays though, its so hard to try to convince someone why I should be accepted haha. I also want to be an NP
I feel you, starting was the hardest part! If it helps, I honestly just brain dumped onto a google do everything I thought would be good to contribute as it came to mind. It would be like 3 am and I just had the urge to write. Then I went back and read over it, tried to create a flow, then next thing you know the essay was born lol. Best of luck on your journey, thank you for subscribing as well! I can't wait to hear your good news in the future!
@@TheDanielleDenise Sorry I have a quick but important question. How did you address the school you applied to being that you attended there for undergrad? I'm trying to figure out how to tell them that since I am an alumni of the school, it would make me an even better candidate. Do you get me? Haha
@@Elymichie Not even gonna lie, I didn't. I talked about it a little in my personal statement video, but I completely brushed over it... probably because I just made the assumption that from my transcripts and stuff they already knew. But if I could go back I would mention something about how I always heard how great the program was or something like that.
@@TheDanielleDenise Hmm okay I did something similar. I also just assume that they will see it with my transcripts and whatnot. Thank you!
Elizabeth Montero no problem! I wish I could’ve been more helpful. But I’m sure you’ll be just fine, best of luck to you!
Loved your video, so informative! What university did you attend for the duel program?
Great info. I was applying for an accelerated BSN program but my goal is to become an NP. Which program are you doing for the ABSN/MSN. I would love to look into that.
I am doing the direct-entry/ entry level masters program. I would've done an ABSN as well.
Love your channel! New subbie. I also aspire to be a Psych NP but I live in GA & there aren’t any Direct entry psych NP Programs out here. I’m looking into a direct entry program like yours (BSN-MSN), but wanted to know if I can do that? And just do a generalist track? 1 school I’m looking at has 9 specialties but none are psych 🙄
Thank you for subbing, welcome!! You can totally pursue a program like mine if you already have your Bachelors in another field. If you're having trouble finding a direct entry program, I would try to find an ABSN and then apply to a traditional masters program, or if you're willing to travel, check out some schools out of state.
Emory University has one, but very expensive.
I’m in Georgia as well and finishing up my BS in Psychology but want to go for my PMHNP-trying to figure out the best options as well!
Loved your video girl! And thanks for getting right to the point lol quick and informative! Good luck in your nursing school journey! I'm thinking of doing the DE-MSN program now instead of just the ABSN! New subscriber here! ❤️ Also whats your intro/outro music I love it!
Thank you for subscribing & yes definitely look into the DE-MSN! The song is Konteskt - Budhha
@@TheDanielleDenise I got accepted for ABSN and AMSN programs. I am having a tough time to chose one but after watching your video I am settling for AMSN since I am 34. Thank you so much for the inspiration!
Which university do you get this degree
What program were you in if you don’t mind sharing?
Hi, so Entry Level master in Nursing and Accelerated BSN program are the same?
Hey love I have my associates and want to become a nurse recently passed the teas for an lpn program what do you suggest.
Go for it! Even if you do another associates for an RN! Goodluck!
@@TheDanielleDenise thanks I love ur channel thank you for all
The information.
I am looking for a program like yours that is just one program that will take me all the way through to NP- I have a non- nursing bachelors and my endgame is NP. I live in California, and I cannot find any programs like this in my state....do you know of any schools in California with programs like this?
Hey! In this video : th-cam.com/video/yxBGoN3NxPc/w-d-xo.html I showed how you can find a full list of schools through the AACN based on the type of program you're looking for and the state. I hope this helps!
Nice video! I’m a non nursing student with a bachelors degree. My end goal is to achieve my MSN and advance in a CRNA program! Do you have any tips on what route I should go?
Thank you for watching! So for CRNA, it gets tricky because they're so picky with those programs and in most cases, at the minimum, they expect you to have at least 1-3 years of experience in the ICU before applying. So this is my recommendation, and you do not have to follow this, but I would say do an ABSN so you can start working and getting that experience in and then start applying to CRNA programs. I hope that helps!
The Danielle Denise Thank you sooo much for your quick reply!! Just subscribed to your page
Egecha Nduka You’re welcome! I try to get back as soon as I see it because sometimes I forget. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask!
Hiii! I’m watching again and have a question. If I choose the BSN/MSN program do I have to sit for boards immediately or can I just work as a nurse? Bc I’m thinking I want to do that but I go back and fourth with being an NP or becoming CRNA.
Hey! Thanks for watching and thanks for your question! So if you choose an ELMSN similar to mine you'll take the NCLEX first, which is needed to become an RN before you move on to NP or CRNA. YOu can definitely work as a nurse after that and take your time to see which field you want to go into. If you do a straight to NP MSN only program you'll already be committed to the track you choose before you start. You wont have to worry about NP or CRNA boards until the very end of your program. I'd go with an ABSN and work a little until you see what you want, you dont have to choose that but it's an option! Best of luck!
Did you have to take prerequisites somewhere else? Or do they allow you to take those at the school?
You need most of them done before you apply. Some schools want all of them done before you apply.
Hey Danielle, loveeeedddd your video, I live in Illinois & want to become a NP......have a Bachelors in Pharmaceutical Sciences....... but can’t find these programs you’re talking about........ can you help me guide in the right direction
Heeeey thanks for watching! So when you search for these programs, what will help is typing in the search the full name of the type of program not just the abbreviation. So for ELMSN, you'll have to search " Entry Level Master of Science in Nursing " or " Accelerated Bachelor of Science in Nursing". Try typing it like that or just copy and paste that and try it like that. Also, the Board of Registered Nursing has a list of accredited programs that you can search for.
The Danielle Denise thanks honey!
Hi Danielle Denise! Thank you so much for this informative and inspiring video. Thank you for the motivation and encouragement! I wish you success with your studies and career.
Can you please share the name of your school?
La Perle des Antilles! Thank youuuu for watching ✨ I’m unable to share my school due to our social media policy but I think you found my vid on how to find the right program for you, I hope it’s helpful!
@@TheDanielleDenise Yes, indeed! Thanks for your guidance!
I’ve been researching for a while now, and I was wondering where I could find a list of school ELMSN schools that grant a BSN and MSN
maymuna liban Hey! I uploaded a video recently of how to find programs similar to mine th-cam.com/video/iLs7SpWpXis/w-d-xo.html . I’m not sure why certain programs don’t offer both , because most hospitals are looking for a BSN as well. I don’t have a full list on hand but if there is a program you’re really interested in feel free to call and ask even if it’s hard to find on the website.
Nice video,how can an international student with a degree from her country enter for this program?
I know that some schools have different policies. It is usually under the admissions tab on school websites and they list specific instructions for international applicants. It is doable!
Hello! My goal is to become a nurse practitioner, and I am a senior in undergrad hoping to go back to school after (I don't have a degree related to nursing). What exact name should I be typing into google to see a program where I can get the BSN and MSN to sit for NP boards? Also what programs would you recommend I look at for something like that? I was just confused about the exact name I should be looking for when searching the web.
Hey!! So these specific programs are for students that have already gotten a four year/ undergraduate degree or Masters degree as a career change. Since you are coming out of high school you can choose to go into a traditional BSN program or an Associate degree RN program and then pursue an advanced nursing degree. I hope this helps! Even if you’re not feeling nursing there are some bridge bachelors to advanced degree programs for other medical fields as well!
The Danielle Denise Hey! Actually I am a Senior in college about to graduate from University in May 2020 with my bachelors degree. Is there programs for people like that?
@@ania.2377 My Apologies! Yes, that's the kind of program I'm in! You can try searching any of the options listed in the title or thumbnail, but I would try searching by their unabbreviated titles. Accelerated Bachelor of Science in Nursing, Entry Level Masters of Science in Nursing or Direct Entry Masters of Science in Nursing.
you'll mostly be looking for the Master's options!
The Danielle Denise thank you so much!
Hi I’m so confused don’t know what to do. I have a BA in Psych and would like to be a nurse. I’m a mom and wife and would like to buy a house in the future. Should I apply to a ADN, ABSN, or Entry level Masters in Nursing? I’m almost done with my prerequisites. I’m scared of getting a loan because I’m low income. Thanks!
Hi!! I would say take your time and really map out a plan. Try to base your decision on what will be financially appropriate for your situation. You can get an ADN-RN and it can take less time, cost less, but you might make a little less than someone who got their BSN. But if that the case and you want more, you can always go back and do an RN to BSN program after you've already started working in the field and making money. This is just an example and it applies to each level. Honestly, continue to research and try to plan accordingly to your financial situation. There are many options to become a nurse!
I am also in the same situation. I have 3 teenagers and wife. I have BA but I would like to absn but it is expensive for me . I am going for adn. My boss rn told me the difference bsn and adn is only $1000 a year because they do the same job. Adn to bsn online is 6 months wgu.
My nursing school was not accelerated and i was already sweating it lol
Omg I understand! Nursing is tough all around!
I agree 😂
i'm doing ELMN and its my first semester!
Me too! Good Luck this semester!! You got this!!
Which state are you in?
California!
@@TheDanielleDenise
I received a degree in Evangelism from a school that has shut down and I do not know how to request an official transcripts, which school will accept the unofficial transcripts for me to do this program you described in your video?
Rosalyn Abankwah they will request sealed official transcripts. If you can, you can try to explain your situation
@@TheDanielleDenise
Please any list of schools that do this entry program? I live in North Carolina.
Rosalyn Abankwah th-cam.com/video/yxBGoN3NxPc/w-d-xo.html this video has a link to a website with all the schools by state. Towards the end of the video I have a tutorial for how to navigate the website
Well most hospitals pay 💰 for your MSN anyways so why pay out of pocket? I’d rather get it for FREE okurrrrr
This is for career changers is what she should also mention...NON nurses. You can get another bsn but then you’ll have to pay for it
yasssss
Not only that. But, in my opinion, if you’re an employer and you have 3 newly grad applicants (one with associates, one with bachelors, and one with a master) which one would be more competitive? Maybe it might not matter so much between someone with a bachelors and masters but it’ll definitely matter between those two and someone with an associates degree. But then again I’m only saying this to appeal to those who already have a bachelors degree and want to become an Rn. If you don’t have a degree then this doesn’t completely apply to you.
@@user-nu3el2mo2w Yes exactly that! This is mostly for people into second career nursing and you want to be an RN!
@@aw8758 Definitely for career changers!