I think i did comment before on your video and i will do it again, you are awesome :), i was having issues with the transient/dynamic range on one of my tracks and i came back to watch your video and you helped me solve it. thank you.
Thanks! I’m planning to make a dedicated dither video with audio and visual examples. Dither, or a lack of dither, isn’t going to make or break a song, but it’s still somewhat of a mysterious topic due to how quiet the noise is.
Yep, great explanation on the L2. Cleared up quite a few things I didn't understand. Only thing, the tune was waaaaay too gnarly. Did my nut in by the end 🤣
Great presentation and explanation, but please consider leaving natural (unedited) spaces as you speak because it’s hard to follow this way when it’s just one contiguous stream of information ;)
Go for it. I’ll sometimes use one limiter to bring a mix up in level, applying barely any gain reduction, and then I’ll use a second limiter to apply heavy gain reduction. When I do this, it’s mostly so I can benefit from the flavour of two different limiters. You could also potentially apply moderate gain reduction with both limiters. Just go with whatever you like the sound of!
Look at the bottom-right corner of the Pro-L 2 for a button that says "TP." To the right of this button, there's a squiggly arrow pointing at another button that has either a dB or K-weighted number value on it. Click on the number value button and select "Loudness" from the dropdown menu that appears; this will display the loudness meter!
I have a question about applying dither. When I turn on dither in Pro-L2 to 24bit, and then I go to export in Ableton, do I keep my .WAV export settings at 32bit or do I also need to apply dither to 24bit in Ableton’s export window?
Good question. Basically, you have two options: Dither Using the Pro-L 2: Within Ableton's export window, choose a bit depth of either 16 or 24, depending on the destination format. Most music distributors allow you to upload a 24-bit file so that's what I choose when exporting a song that's going to end up on Spotify, etc. Then, disable the dithering option in Ableton's export window. Instead, choose a 24-bit dithering algorithm within the Pro-L 2. Dither Using Ableton: Within Ableton's export window, choose a bit depth of either 16 or 24, depending on the destination format. Select a dithering option in Ableton's export window. Then turn Dither to "Off" within the Pro-L 2. You don't want to apply dither twice so you need to choose to apply dither using Ableton or the Pro-L 2. I usually keep the Pro-L 2's dithering algorithm turned off and apply dither using Ableton because, in some odd situations, a limiter isn't the last plugin in my chain. Both options I mentioned work and sound perfectly fine so it's just a matter of preference.
@@BlackGhostAudio Wow thank you so much for the quick and detailed reply! This is what my hunch told me but I wanted to confirm with someone else as a sanity check! Last, thank you SO MUCH for the amazing qualify videos. You have such a great format and the editing is so pristine to make it clear to understand everything!
It would have been helpful to mention what version is being used here, because I have v1.0, and there is no unity switch at that location. In fact, the whole thing looks different.
I personally don't touch the attack and release on the Pro-L2. Every time I mess with them, I realize I like the default settings better. I also keep the lookahead at the default. The one thing I do change is the algorithm. I like "Transparent." One confusing thing is that you kept turning up the gain right when the distorted part of the song comes in. It took me a while realize it was supposed to sound like that and wasn't high levels of distortion from the limiter. I was a little confused why L2 would have that much distortion on only a couple db of gain reduction. I think the source material could have been chosen better.
You don't :) The Pro-L 2 has a fixed threshold level. Rather than dropping the threshold level to apply compression, you increase the input gain to "drive" your mix into the Pro-L 2's threshold.
You only need to engage the Filter DC Offset feature if the input signal contains a DC offset. When a signal’s waveform is asymmetrical, the mean amplitude of the waveform isn’t zero, meaning the signal contains a DC offset. In your DAW, you’re often able to visualize this if the problem exists; the peaks in the waveform will go up noticeably higher than the troughs in the waveform go down. When you play a signal like this, it can clip prematurely. To remove slight DC offset, you can use a high-pass filter, which is what the Pro-L 2 appears to do when you engage the Filter DC Offset feature.
Iam new in this channel why when somone explain limmter the. Example always edm What about pop or randb song edm need to push the limiter abd have 2 to 3 db gain reduction what about r and b song ?
The concepts that I mention in the video apply to any genre. For more information on how much gain reduction to apply, I suggest watching the LUFS video that I refer to in the video: th-cam.com/video/_rKCmXIoygg/w-d-xo.html
@@BlackGhostAudio iwill watch it but my question is when my when i raise up the volume to have the reduction it is now to loud how to have -13 even though i raised up the limiter to get the reduction
I’m not entirely sure what your question is, but the amount of gain you apply is not the same as the amount of gain reduction that gets applied. For example, if your song contains 12 dB of headroom, and you apply 13 dB of gain, only 1 dB of gain reduction will be applied.
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No waffle.Concise,informative and in under 12 minutes! I added to my fabfilter collection on the strength of this excellent video.
Ive always thought the attack worked like a compressor. Learned something new. Thanks
This was the most informative video on limiters and especially of the PRO L2. Honestly, this was a game changer and thanks a ton!!
Thank you, that was very useful! I had problems with distortion and never had an idea to target that by using the Look ahead feature!
This is the best video I've seen on this limiter so far.
thanks so much for the clarity of what this thing is actually for!
Huge difference from other vids I've checked out recently.
I’m glad it helped. There’s a lot of power packed into this plugin!
you're awesome dude, thankyou very much. it's alot easier learning plugins like this without reading the manual!
This was a great video and the first time it’s ever made real sense, thank you for this!
I think i did comment before on your video and i will do it again, you are awesome :), i was having issues with the transient/dynamic range on one of my tracks and i came back to watch your video and you helped me solve it. thank you.
The best instructional video for this plugin. Thank you so much!
wow! the video is so informative, covers all aspects of the plugin. Love it
Thanks for this one, particularly the info on dithering. It’s probably the best overview I’ve heard
Thanks! I’m planning to make a dedicated dither video with audio and visual examples. Dither, or a lack of dither, isn’t going to make or break a song, but it’s still somewhat of a mysterious topic due to how quiet the noise is.
What a fantastic video! I really needed this. Thanks.
great video thank you, amazing how many people don't explain the basics !!!!!
Great video for future reference and future learning. Thanks a lot
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Wish you used a different track as example. Thanks for the info.
Thank you so much man. Great video and precise explanation. And GREAT song! Keep it going.
Great great info, thank you man!
I hope it helps!
ty senpai
Yep, great explanation on the L2. Cleared up quite a few things I didn't understand. Only thing, the tune was waaaaay too gnarly. Did my nut in by the end 🤣
Cool video dude. You guys are seriously underrated.
Thanks Nuno! I remember how difficult it was learning how to produce music back in the day so I hope these videos help at least a few people.
@@BlackGhostAudio Keep going at it brother! You guys will be huge soon
@@nunomoreiras6407 Thanks for the encouragement! I hope so too, haha.
Skrillex would approve this video 💎
Great presentation and explanation, but please consider leaving natural (unedited) spaces as you speak because it’s hard to follow this way when it’s just one contiguous stream of information ;)
Thanks for the feedback! I’ve started doing this in more recent videos 😊
@@BlackGhostAudio cool, I’ll be sure to watch some more as I’m learning the “technical” side of producing! 👍
Thanks very much! :D
THIS IS A HUGE VIDEO. NAMASTE
Respect 🙏
great video
Excellent vid!!!
Thanks pal!
awesome, what is your take on placing two limiters in serial on mastering chain.
Go for it. I’ll sometimes use one limiter to bring a mix up in level, applying barely any gain reduction, and then I’ll use a second limiter to apply heavy gain reduction. When I do this, it’s mostly so I can benefit from the flavour of two different limiters.
You could also potentially apply moderate gain reduction with both limiters. Just go with whatever you like the sound of!
@@BlackGhostAudio great site, thanks 🙏
i have a question, you have on the right a section that I don't have when i open Pro-L2 that section with the LUFS, how do I open it?
Look at the bottom-right corner of the Pro-L 2 for a button that says "TP." To the right of this button, there's a squiggly arrow pointing at another button that has either a dB or K-weighted number value on it. Click on the number value button and select "Loudness" from the dropdown menu that appears; this will display the loudness meter!
@@BlackGhostAudio thanks, i was going mad lol
I have a question about applying dither. When I turn on dither in Pro-L2 to 24bit, and then I go to export in Ableton, do I keep my .WAV export settings at 32bit or do I also need to apply dither to 24bit in Ableton’s export window?
Good question. Basically, you have two options:
Dither Using the Pro-L 2: Within Ableton's export window, choose a bit depth of either 16 or 24, depending on the destination format. Most music distributors allow you to upload a 24-bit file so that's what I choose when exporting a song that's going to end up on Spotify, etc. Then, disable the dithering option in Ableton's export window. Instead, choose a 24-bit dithering algorithm within the Pro-L 2.
Dither Using Ableton: Within Ableton's export window, choose a bit depth of either 16 or 24, depending on the destination format. Select a dithering option in Ableton's export window. Then turn Dither to "Off" within the Pro-L 2.
You don't want to apply dither twice so you need to choose to apply dither using Ableton or the Pro-L 2. I usually keep the Pro-L 2's dithering algorithm turned off and apply dither using Ableton because, in some odd situations, a limiter isn't the last plugin in my chain. Both options I mentioned work and sound perfectly fine so it's just a matter of preference.
@@BlackGhostAudio Wow thank you so much for the quick and detailed reply! This is what my hunch told me but I wanted to confirm with someone else as a sanity check!
Last, thank you SO MUCH for the amazing qualify videos. You have such a great format and the editing is so pristine to make it clear to understand everything!
@@michaelpham1214 I’m happy to help. Thanks for the great feedback 😁
Thanks for this video, i wish i had seen this about two years ago 😂😂
It would have been helpful to mention what version is being used here, because I have v1.0, and there is no unity switch at that location. In fact, the whole thing looks different.
This is 100% v2
So when mastering with the pro L2 should cut the unity gain off or leave it on???
Turn it on when dialling in the amount of gain reduction applied to avoid loudness bias, and then disable unity gain afterward.
Thanks man
I personally don't touch the attack and release on the Pro-L2. Every time I mess with them, I realize I like the default settings better. I also keep the lookahead at the default. The one thing I do change is the algorithm. I like "Transparent."
One confusing thing is that you kept turning up the gain right when the distorted part of the song comes in. It took me a while realize it was supposed to sound like that and wasn't high levels of distortion from the limiter. I was a little confused why L2 would have that much distortion on only a couple db of gain reduction. I think the source material could have been chosen better.
Where is the threshold please? how can I know when it starts to act
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Where do you adjust the threshold?
You don't :) The Pro-L 2 has a fixed threshold level. Rather than dropping the threshold level to apply compression, you increase the input gain to "drive" your mix into the Pro-L 2's threshold.
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Wat abt DC offset sir
You only need to engage the Filter DC Offset feature if the input signal contains a DC offset. When a signal’s waveform is asymmetrical, the mean amplitude of the waveform isn’t zero, meaning the signal contains a DC offset. In your DAW, you’re often able to visualize this if the problem exists; the peaks in the waveform will go up noticeably higher than the troughs in the waveform go down. When you play a signal like this, it can clip prematurely. To remove slight DC offset, you can use a high-pass filter, which is what the Pro-L 2 appears to do when you engage the Filter DC Offset feature.
@@BlackGhostAudio thanks sir
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My pro L 2 doesn't look like that. I don't know why
Mines doesn't have that extra part on the right hand side, ill need to look on how to open that on v2
Iam new in this channel why when somone explain limmter the. Example always edm
What about pop or randb song edm need to push the limiter abd have 2 to 3 db gain reduction what about r and b song ?
The concepts that I mention in the video apply to any genre. For more information on how much gain reduction to apply, I suggest watching the LUFS video that I refer to in the video: th-cam.com/video/_rKCmXIoygg/w-d-xo.html
@@BlackGhostAudio iwill watch it but my question is when my when i raise up the volume to have the reduction it is now to loud how to have -13 even though i raised up the limiter to get the reduction
I’m not entirely sure what your question is, but the amount of gain you apply is not the same as the amount of gain reduction that gets applied. For example, if your song contains 12 dB of headroom, and you apply 13 dB of gain, only 1 dB of gain reduction will be applied.
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The winners will receive an email on the 21st!
Your reply game is always on point👏appreciate the information
@@2liebe My channel is still small enough that I can reply to everyone quite quickly so I like to make a point of doing so, haha.
I’m guessing I wasn’t a first round pick or any round for that matter😂
@@2liebe James Cooke was the winner, but you'll always hold a special place in my heart. There's another giveaway coming up next month and everybody is getting a free plugin!
Couldn’t make it through the tutorial. Whatever was played wasn’t music.
Your eyes look as red as mine.
That’s what happens when you stare at a computer screen for 12 hours a day 😂
why this music I count hear what you are saying can you much better music next time