@@aaronalquiza9680 If someone is reading the comments of a video, before watching the video, they are asking to have it spoiled. The entire point of the comments section is to discuss the video and give your thoughts after watching.
^^ So happy cause these last day our poor Clem loose some...Look at these 4 incredibles matchs between Serral and Clem....Seem s dat the king is still improvin
Holy shit, clem, you are a madman for coming back from this. Both you and Reynor played your hearts out, but at the end of the day, I'm happy to see a fellow terran win :P
Holy shit this si amazing! This is like the terrains attaching char. They get their faces kicked in at the start but eventually they take over the Zerg homeworld through relentless attacks and determination.
What a series!!! I wasn’t a fan of the summarized games at first until I got used to it. Credit to the edit because I likely would have bailed at the 0-3 point. Great commentary as well 😀
One of the most insane finals I have ever seen... and i have been watching StarCraft for over 20 years. These two are so even... and very interesting battles, so much micro going on all the time. Compare this to this years GSL :D This is 100 times more interesting.
What was Reynor doing in that last game? He threw his whole army away so many times for no reason. He had a huge advantage and instead of just holding it, he went all-in with so many unsupported attacks and just gifted the game to Clem.
Thats what happen when you have Reynor playing, he trust in his "instinct" and willing to throw units to break a position that he think will win him the game. If it works, it is called being "decisive", but if it doesnt work, then its a "poor decision".
Its quite a site to see raynor going from throwing his fists in the air after going 0-3 and then putting both his hands on his head when it was 3-3. EDIT: yeah ... from 0-3 to 4-3 ... now thats something else.
They are definitely needed for the splash damage, you simply cannot beat ling bane with just marines, you will get mowed down by the banes blowing up on your units.
love these casters.. dude w the accent offers great insight, though somewhat clunky; other dude has perfect presentation. Solid combo. thanks (I suck at SC2 - only watch, but I'm nasty at almost any other game... mad respect)
I feel like reynor would’ve won the final game if he just stayed on hydra ling bane viper and didn’t go for lurkers while also getting plus 3 attack and range upgrades instead of staying on 1-1-3
Reynor is a bit "stubborn" at times, wanting to show his way of doing things work. Its clear to us from watching the game that HydraLingBane was more effective against what Clem doing, but Reynor refuse to accept that and keep going to Lurker, which is not a bad unit but Reynor tech switch was just too late when Clem already had Ghost and Libs on the field.
What a reverse sweep! So many times, I thought that either player would be dead, but they just kept persevering and that sure made for a very interesting back and forth game.
Ghosts are op. Change my mind. Can kill a lurker/queen/ultra/brood in 0.2s from out of range, yet it takes 6 banes to kill? Oh and they are casters too. Stealth. EMP. Should be glass cannons for how much utility, value and damage they do. It's like if Infestors had 200 more HP and could spit acid or something too.
ghost have 100 hp, 0 starting armor, infestor have 90 hp, so yeah, that 10 hp really makes a lot of difference lol. honestly, play the game at least once before balance whining
Ghosts take space from terran production, you need more barracks only for them since 2 or 3 ghosts wouldn't make a difference. Meanwhile infestors are made effortlessly since it's the path of production of zerg race to the late game (Hive). Also, 2 or 3 infestors could make a huge difference in a battle since they spill out glue acid in an area.
the last game was pretty hard to watch as a zerg- vipers wasting abducts on marines and ghosts like wtf, not a single infestor trough out the match and clem was only using bio. Reynor was pretty aggressive at the start and played flawlessly but seems like Clem managed to adapt to it and gave Reynor a taste of his own medicine like, the marine harassing was so relentless. Props to Clem from coming back from a 0-3!
This caster talks so much it hurts my brain, I don't understand why he gotta speak so many words. Half of them are useless and describing things that we can see. "4 banelings rolling, now they connected to 5 scvs" Jesus christ
@@SC2HL What do you mean even better? There's nothing better than this final. But how many times have you witnessed Serrel being defeated 1-3 at his peak form? In the finals It felt like Clem gave all his steam playing against Serral. The twitch chat and event commentors gave their favor to Clem over Reynor in the finals based on what they witnessed. Reynor was the second phase of the final boss Serral. Watching only this serie you miss the first phase of the same boss.
Clem is basically been playing like a Zerg lately. Just expand and match the Zerg player's economy as best as you can. Counter attack on the other side like what a Zerg baneling player usually does. Seriously with all the Terran NERFS specially to his old widow mine strat which was godlike a few months ago against all Zergs (even Serral), playing like a Zerg is the most viable Terran strategy atm.
Wow just wow, I mean I don't like that mine play as its too luck/random based although I usually cheer for the Terrans, but both players here really played for their life, that last game, just unbelievable how the tides turned.
Terrans always set up a siege position on the edge of creep, close to a zerg base and then get sourounded after 30 sek, their reinforcements cut of and then viped. Now listen this may sound wild, BUT why not float like 5 barracks with the army, land them when you siege up to create a wall that is also able to reinforce your army? why has no one done this yet?
I've thought that too, or even send 2/3 scv's with the main push and mostly build a few engi bays around key points so you can still delete them to get minerals refunded when close to death. Just having a building buy 2 or 3 extra tank shots seems like it'd be a huge deal
if you want to watch the original, but don't like twitch. it was reuploaded on youtube just a few minutes ago: th-cam.com/video/6rGVwD08ZH4/w-d-xo.html
Queens are so strong that terran have to use all units he have to just try and break them, and then you ctrl+a lings and banes. I feel 3/4 of zvp games are like this...
yeah queen buff in Hots was big mistake. also to add banelings to the game initially big mistake. u can see as soon there is a few or no baneling zerg disengages. also feels like that tvz is only endless waves of lingbling and 9-12 queens for creep, larva and defense. its actually a joke.
@@kryptic83 Ahh yes, Terrans complaining about the only unit 2 units that make zerg viable when all they need to do is turtle up to 4 bases and build ghosts to win
@@justind7151 this is so true. Queens literally can't do anything from mid to late game. Zerg can't win with hydras, roaches, lurkers, vipers, ultras, broodlords. Only ling bane. But they suck without upgrades.
That's why Terran won. Please stop crying. In my opinion it is all about the maps. In my mind, people discussing balance, even the race has lost, makes the community toxic. And that's never a healthy sign for the game. I get, that you argue, when Terran is losing. But one time since sooooo long, Terran has a mappool, that is winnable and somewhat even to Zerg. I really feel like, game is about skill currently. We should be happy, that Terran can win again. I mean, toss seems underwhelming. But void ray nerf was one of the best things, that could have happened. The games became so much more fun. Enjoy it.
Edit. Don't feel offended. You might just try to say, that they should buff other stuff of Zerg, so queens are not just being messed and all games look even. Then I get your point. But just nerfing Zerg doesn't feel right to me, at least at the current map pool, I am just starting to see, that the biggest meta changes and balance changes are the maps.
@@LambdaNL It was just Maru's time. He wouldn't be denied the G5L anymore. He put in the prep work and brought his A+ strats. Every game was like watching a work of art the way he flawlessly ripped Ragnarok apart. After being plagued with all his injuries recently, I thought it was really nice to see Maru in top form again.
I know there's a lot of variables and that Clem can be godlike but from my noob POV, it looks like Reynor just couldn't learn the lesson and was on repeat. Once Clem heated up (ie after the 0-3), he basically won the same game 4 times in a row. No rush, no reaper, no cheese, no mecha (except a few helions but tanks? thors? ravens? BC?)... It was : double cloacked banshee opening into helions into mass marines + mines into +medivac +marauders, into liberators + ghosts endgame. Ok that's strong and Clem played it masterfully but Reynor is not a random and loosing to the exact same strategy 4 times in a row?? The grand finale is intense but it's not "the best of all time", like I read in the comments. It needs more various strategies and "crazy" plays to call it that way imo. (And btw, I love Clem's playing style, he's my fav SC2 player)
First 14 mins were painful to watch. All tier 1 unites of marines vs zerglings with medivacs and banelings to help. Hope the rest is better and with more tech.
Man so much Bio dying in these games, i wish Clem would just get Blue Flame and a few Hellions Late Game. Sound good, might not be the best strategy but i just love when they roast rows of Zerglings
Im just happy this channel exists despite not playing SC2 for more than 7 8 years now
same xD
It's actually a lot of fun if u get over the anxiety. Nothing feels more personal then 1v1 sc2
Crazy how I haven't played sc2 in years but I watch it literally everyday XD
I don't think SC2 was around 78 years ago no?
78 years?!????😱😂
"EPIC GRAND FINALS" with my favourite Clem? 55 minutes? Oh man thank you, the timing is right, gonna eat my lunch while watching this. lol
hell ya, just did it and I do not regret it
AND clem is down 3-0 by the scond game with only 9 minutes on the clock!
@@tossedtripod6458 oh cmon less spoilers for others please lol
@@aaronalquiza9680 If someone is reading the comments of a video, before watching the video, they are asking to have it spoiled. The entire point of the comments section is to discuss the video and give your thoughts after watching.
^^ So happy cause these last day our poor Clem loose some...Look at these 4 incredibles matchs between Serral and Clem....Seem s dat the king is still improvin
What a nail-biter of an ending. Very wp from both players on that back and forth in the last game.
Raynor threw the game, literally bad plays from him
@@ayoubp7689 3k mmr analytics time
-Best of 7
-9 minutes in and its 3/0 for Reynor
*but the video is 55min long*
me: it's Clem, why am I surprised :D
I really thought Reynor had the game in hand, but damn...Clem turned things around. Great job.
I really appreciate how good the commentary on this series was!
When I saw widow mines for the first time I thought they couldn't be serious adding this unit so powerful and so cheap.
Clem and Reynor are both legends. catz is a legend for the play by play casting as well
serral too lol (hope no serral haters)
Holy shit, clem, you are a madman for coming back from this. Both you and Reynor played your hearts out, but at the end of the day, I'm happy to see a fellow terran win :P
Holy shit this si amazing!
This is like the terrains attaching char.
They get their faces kicked in at the start but eventually they take over the Zerg homeworld through relentless attacks and determination.
What a series!!! I wasn’t a fan of the summarized games at first until I got used to it. Credit to the edit because I likely would have bailed at the 0-3 point. Great commentary as well 😀
The attack at 9:12 is exactlt what i think zerg should look like
9:12 * Yes Beautiful ! Dread and despair for the Terran !
the swarm !!!
@@user-ow2ln3pw7d edited!
Its a "what is up? Im nesteaaaaaaa!!!" moment
Yeah that's some campaign cut-scene shit right there.
One of the most insane finals I have ever seen... and i have been watching StarCraft for over 20 years.
These two are so even... and very interesting battles, so much micro going on all the time.
Compare this to this years GSL :D This is 100 times more interesting.
The most epic reverse sweep I have ever seen!
Imagine this is best three in five.
this is insane
What a comeback!🎉
THAT’S series of the year material. Wow
just watching those games is so stressfull. the amount of multitasking got to an unreal level
Wow what a comeback!!
what a comeback! only Maru can pull off something like this. Clem is Maru Europe version.
Another win for Protoss🙄
Spoilers!
The editing on these videos is top notch!
Of course. How to win: 1. choose Terran 2. build mines.
I would love to see Maru vs. Clem battle it out in international events.
Maru somehow spanks him most times they meet...
Cz Clem idolize Coreans too much.
He might should inspire himself of that Raynor impetuous spirits
i think theres no terran player have ever beat maru from his throne.
@@Lotte-st TY
What was Reynor doing in that last game? He threw his whole army away so many times for no reason. He had a huge advantage and instead of just holding it, he went all-in with so many unsupported attacks and just gifted the game to Clem.
Damn you should play in tournaments
Thats what happen when you have Reynor playing, he trust in his "instinct" and willing to throw units to break a position that he think will win him the game. If it works, it is called being "decisive", but if it doesnt work, then its a "poor decision".
@@tigera6 what’s the military quote.
If it works it was a bold move
If it loses it was a blunder
love to see more videos from sc2hl :)
Wow. That was an incredible series
Now that was LEGIT EPIC
27:25 Who?
At first I didn’t think the title “epic” was the right word, after the end it definitely describes it perfectly!
That’s what I like to hear
Best commentator I've heard in a while.
How many arms and brains does Clem have? I mean caster cant even follow up with the vision…imagine playing that fast.
GREAT SERIES!! GREAT COMENTARY GUYS!!
what a comeback, congratulations Clem!
Its quite a site to see raynor going from throwing his fists in the air after going 0-3 and then putting both his hands on his head when it was 3-3.
EDIT: yeah ... from 0-3 to 4-3 ... now thats something else.
rewatching this 3 months later and re-LOL on the tumor self attack posturing how agressive he is xD
stand aside thors, stand aside battlecruisers, widow mines are the strongest thing in the terran arsenal
They are definitely needed for the splash damage, you simply cannot beat ling bane with just marines, you will get mowed down by the banes blowing up on your units.
Just add the details that it requires hundreds of apm to get it work properly*
love these casters.. dude w the accent offers great insight, though somewhat clunky; other dude has perfect presentation. Solid combo. thanks (I suck at SC2 - only watch, but I'm nasty at almost any other game... mad respect)
I feel like reynor would’ve won the final game if he just stayed on hydra ling bane viper and didn’t go for lurkers while also getting plus 3 attack and range upgrades instead of staying on 1-1-3
Reynor is a bit "stubborn" at times, wanting to show his way of doing things work. Its clear to us from watching the game that HydraLingBane was more effective against what Clem doing, but Reynor refuse to accept that and keep going to Lurker, which is not a bad unit but Reynor tech switch was just too late when Clem already had Ghost and Libs on the field.
If my aunt had Balls it would has been my uncle
Great comeback for Clem, both in the series and in the last game
Reverse swept in the Grand Final... Instant classic!
53:17 Look at Reynor here.
What a reverse sweep! So many times, I thought that either player would be dead, but they just kept persevering and that sure made for a very interesting back and forth game.
a whole set of non-stop macro games, these players just top tier skills and endurance.
Really evenly matched players. Odd how the compositions of each game were so similar too.
Such an Epic Series! Definetly the two best Koreans NA has!
0-3 by 9 minutes in the video? Sounds like Clem is ganna make a good comeback or a great last stand
OOOH SHIT 42 MIN IN RN, SHITS SPICY
HOLY FUCK WHAT A WIN
Ghosts are op. Change my mind.
Can kill a lurker/queen/ultra/brood in 0.2s from out of range, yet it takes 6 banes to kill? Oh and they are casters too. Stealth. EMP. Should be glass cannons for how much utility, value and damage they do.
It's like if Infestors had 200 more HP and could spit acid or something too.
ghost have 100 hp, 0 starting armor, infestor have 90 hp, so yeah, that 10 hp really makes a lot of difference lol. honestly, play the game at least once before balance whining
Ghosts take space from terran production, you need more barracks only for them since 2 or 3 ghosts wouldn't make a difference. Meanwhile infestors are made effortlessly since it's the path of production of zerg race to the late game (Hive). Also, 2 or 3 infestors could make a huge difference in a battle since they spill out glue acid in an area.
Exactly. Ghosts are absurdly tanky for the damage + spell caster.
@@sc2youtube744 they have 10 more hp than infestor, how is that tanky
What a comeback!
Clem really puts the Terran in Reynor XD
What a comeback betwennst the 2 best multitaskers of the world crazy matches
Fucking reversed sweeped em. What a fucking monster.
Raynor won't be able to sleep after he finds that he forgot the +3 attacks in the very last game
Reynor : I hear no man..... But that thing
*Widow mine*
It scares me
Amazing comeback by Clem!
This wasnt grand finals, I believe it was SC2 Dreamhack Atlanta 2022 EU playoff losers bracket final. Played around a week ago.
The speed of these two guys is just nuts.
It's not bad.
Well dayum, Clem! You ran that back with extreme prejudice!
27:25 "Serral" :P Easy to misspeak though casting high pace matches.
This was amazing
Crazy good games, great comeback
This game is so good… but so damn hard to play 😂
It's easy to play, extremely hard to master.
27:26 I guess raynor as evolved into serral now XD
The fact that Reynor only had to get 3 wins and Clem had to get 4 wins is the craziest part
Did anybody hear Reynor be called Serral at 27:27?
46:43 Does anyone know the anouncer who freaks out during this baneling rush? He's actually my favorite lol
Catz
CatZ, Zerg sc2 pro from brazil. Excellent caster.
@@Justbleed434 actually he is from peru
I actually don't enjoy hearing him overreacting and describing every single detail that is happening on the screen. Jesus christ, he hurts my brain.
Can somebody explain to me why widow mines have a ATP of 19 and lurkers don't?
It's incredible how ghosts can effectively win you games when you use em properly
Wwoooowww what a game, Oné of the best
the last game was pretty hard to watch as a zerg- vipers wasting abducts on marines and ghosts like wtf, not a single infestor trough out the match and clem was only using bio. Reynor was pretty aggressive at the start and played flawlessly but seems like Clem managed to adapt to it and gave Reynor a taste of his own medicine like, the marine harassing was so relentless. Props to Clem from coming back from a 0-3!
Merciless battle. Damn.
Starcraft is ETERNAL
"two banshees together in conjunction with eachother" a bit redundant lol
This caster talks so much it hurts my brain, I don't understand why he gotta speak so many words. Half of them are useless and describing things that we can see. "4 banelings rolling, now they connected to 5 scvs" Jesus christ
insane i rly thought clem lost it in the final game there :O still won what a legend!
There is a saying in chess
Winning a won game is one of the hardest things to do. He had the series but he lost it.
Why is Zerg no longer building mutas??
Didn't Clem reverse sweep Reynor in DH Valencia Regionals final as well?
Ghosts are too strong and versatile late game to be commiting that many resources to lurkers.
When he saw ghosts, he should just have stayed with lingbane hydra and drop the lurkers
53:34 the moment he knew the game was won
27:25 calls casters calls him Serral lol.
DON'T watch it until you watched Serral - Clem. You had my warning.
Should I highlight that? Was it even better?
@@SC2HL What do you mean even better? There's nothing better than this final. But how many times have you witnessed Serrel being defeated 1-3 at his peak form? In the finals It felt like Clem gave all his steam playing against Serral. The twitch chat and event commentors gave their favor to Clem over Reynor in the finals based on what they witnessed. Reynor was the second phase of the final boss Serral. Watching only this serie you miss the first phase of the same boss.
@@sheeftz I try to watch everything but do miss some events. Had a few work things to finish ;)
Ill catch up later
@@SC2HL it was great, maybe do a highlight including both series, so youc an see how much of a comeback clem had
@@SC2HL Please do :)
When he saw the ghosts, he should just have stayed with lingbane hydra and drop the lurkers
Clem is basically been playing like a Zerg lately. Just expand and match the Zerg player's economy as best as you can. Counter attack on the other side like what a Zerg baneling player usually does. Seriously with all the Terran NERFS specially to his old widow mine strat which was godlike a few months ago against all Zergs (even Serral), playing like a Zerg is the most viable Terran strategy atm.
Wow just wow, I mean I don't like that mine play as its too luck/random based although I usually cheer for the Terrans, but both players here really played for their life, that last game, just unbelievable how the tides turned.
Hard to believe Clem won the game with 0:3 behind. GG!
Terrans always set up a siege position on the edge of creep, close to a zerg base and then get sourounded after 30 sek, their reinforcements cut of and then viped. Now listen this may sound wild, BUT why not float like 5 barracks with the army, land them when you siege up to create a wall that is also able to reinforce your army? why has no one done this yet?
I've thought that too, or even send 2/3 scv's with the main push and mostly build a few engi bays around key points so you can still delete them to get minerals refunded when close to death. Just having a building buy 2 or 3 extra tank shots seems like it'd be a huge deal
Amazing Match From Clem..GG! 4-3 Polarbear🐻❄Mlem -Miss You "Artosis" Pylons
It turns out catz is a good caster when he’s not constantly screeching. 😂
Is this from another TH-cam channel?
It's from the esl_sc2 twitch stream from yesterday
if you want to watch the original, but don't like twitch. it was reuploaded on youtube just a few minutes ago: th-cam.com/video/6rGVwD08ZH4/w-d-xo.html
"A long, gruelling, intoxicating war....."
Queens are so strong that terran have to use all units he have to just try and break them, and then you ctrl+a lings and banes. I feel 3/4 of zvp games are like this...
yeah queen buff in Hots was big mistake. also to add banelings to the game initially big mistake. u can see as soon there is a few or no baneling zerg disengages. also feels like that tvz is only endless waves of lingbling and 9-12 queens for creep, larva and defense. its actually a joke.
@@kryptic83 Ahh yes, Terrans complaining about the only unit 2 units that make zerg viable when all they need to do is turtle up to 4 bases and build ghosts to win
@@justind7151 this is so true. Queens literally can't do anything from mid to late game.
Zerg can't win with hydras, roaches, lurkers, vipers, ultras, broodlords.
Only ling bane. But they suck without upgrades.
That's why Terran won. Please stop crying. In my opinion it is all about the maps. In my mind, people discussing balance, even the race has lost, makes the community toxic. And that's never a healthy sign for the game.
I get, that you argue, when Terran is losing. But one time since sooooo long, Terran has a mappool, that is winnable and somewhat even to Zerg. I really feel like, game is about skill currently. We should be happy, that Terran can win again. I mean, toss seems underwhelming. But void ray nerf was one of the best things, that could have happened. The games became so much more fun. Enjoy it.
Edit. Don't feel offended. You might just try to say, that they should buff other stuff of Zerg, so queens are not just being messed and all games look even. Then I get your point. But just nerfing Zerg doesn't feel right to me, at least at the current map pool, I am just starting to see, that the biggest meta changes and balance changes are the maps.
the last game sending groups of lurkers by themselves to suicide is too fatal...
If only Ragnarok also made the reserve swipe.
tbf Maru played like a demon in that series. Both on Hero and Ragnarok, he just crushed them.
@@Honyakusha Maru literally didnt even lose a single game VS a Zerg
that series was so sad, I expected some good games, and instead maru won 4 times within 30 min, it wasnt even a matchup,
@@LambdaNL It was just Maru's time. He wouldn't be denied the G5L anymore. He put in the prep work and brought his A+ strats. Every game was like watching a work of art the way he flawlessly ripped Ragnarok apart. After being plagued with all his injuries recently, I thought it was really nice to see Maru in top form again.
I know there's a lot of variables and that Clem can be godlike but from my noob POV, it looks like Reynor just couldn't learn the lesson and was on repeat.
Once Clem heated up (ie after the 0-3), he basically won the same game 4 times in a row. No rush, no reaper, no cheese, no mecha (except a few helions but tanks? thors? ravens? BC?)... It was : double cloacked banshee opening into helions into mass marines + mines into +medivac +marauders, into liberators + ghosts endgame. Ok that's strong and Clem played it masterfully but Reynor is not a random and loosing to the exact same strategy 4 times in a row?? The grand finale is intense but it's not "the best of all time", like I read in the comments. It needs more various strategies and "crazy" plays to call it that way imo.
(And btw, I love Clem's playing style, he's my fav SC2 player)
First 14 mins were painful to watch. All tier 1 unites of marines vs zerglings with medivacs and banelings to help. Hope the rest is better and with more tech.
Man so much Bio dying in these games, i wish Clem would just get Blue Flame and a few Hellions Late Game. Sound good, might not be the best strategy but i just love when they roast rows of Zerglings
TBH it's kind of boring that they do the exact same composition every game. Marine medivac mine vs zergling, baneling and hydra. Every game.
it's the reverse sweep!
I didn't know George st Pierre was such a SC fan
I feel like the first 3 losses were Clem, figuring out Reynor...
well played by clem in game 7. reynor had not just the last game but the entire series. relax my man. regroup and come back stronger next time.