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there is an element of sad poetic irony that is overlooked in this review, Catwoman admires felines and self identifies with their qualities, but when she actually becomes one, she's torn between her love for their grace and beauty but is also dejected by how unnatural what she's become and can never be with Tyger because of it.
@@legionaireb he acknowledges it, but barely gives it any attention despite it being the major plot element for catwoman herself who constantly tries to be a voice of reason to the brooding Tyger
I like how the doctor brings up the fact that Selina is Catwoman like it’s some big reveal, like he figured out her secret identity, even though Catwoman’s identity was public knowledge at this point. I expected Selina to have some smarmy comeback pointing that out.
@@daliborjovanovic510 Lol well from what I remember BTAS never really showed that happening so I kind of go based on that. Usually when a character's identity is revealed it's a pretty big deal. And technically Selina shouldn't even be out of jail and roaming around already at this point of the show.
This episode reminds me of the Gargoyles episode where homeless people are kidnapped off the street to be mutated into animal hybrids or mock gargoyles. Maggie Reed is in Catwoman’s position here and she later chooses to keep (some question in if the antidote would have worked) the new form.
"What's this on your desk?" "Oh uh... it's for a new Batman story! Showcasing the uh... horrors... of genetic manipulation!" "Brilliant! I want as much concept art on my desk as soon as possible."
Man, Jim Cummings has had such a long career. He's pretty much the voice of my childhood. Now whenever I rewatch something, especially on Disney+, I try to see how often I can spot his voice. Spoilers, it’s a lot.
He also makes calls to children's hospitals in his famous voices. I read one story about how he called a girl dying of cancer as Winnie The Pooh and her mom said it was the first time she smiled in 6 months.
There was an unwritten rule back then that if you had a cartoon in the 90s and it had a LA based voice cast, Jim Cummings HAD to make an appearance, no matter how small it was. If nothing else, I’m glad this episode finally utilized his talent to its full potential. Cummings could have easily voiced of Batman’s rogues if they had asked him.
This story would’ve been far better as a comic book. If we’d seen Selina losing her humanity over a longer period through an internal monologue, the horror aspect would’ve been played up tenfold.
Agreed, it's a real pity the comics have hardly ever even gone back to this ep for ideas. It could have been part of the Dark Multiverse where Selina was never cured and instead Batman goes crazy from frustration trying to cure her leading him to turn him self as well as all of Gotham in Cat People so she won't have to feel like a freak.
"Although I'm sure it has its fans." *shows a clip of the furrified Catwoman trying to lick herself* Oh, Walt... sweet, innocent, naïve Walt... I REALLY hope the context of that isn't lost on you.
I was about 8 or 9 years old when this episode first aired, and I remember being blown away with how nuanced this particular episode was. Of course, at the time I didn't have the words or mental fortitude (at that age) to articulate exactly WHY I enjoyed it so much. It was bittersweet and sad, and the ending (while good for Selina) left me feeling pensive and melancholy for several days afterwards. It was a strange feeling, liking the episode but also feeling bad for the Cat man. That's why I'm so surprised this was rated so low here. To me, it was one of the better episodes, "almost" up there with the Mr. Freeze, _Heart of Ice_ episode and the Clayface introduction episode, _Feat of Clay._ It was disappointing to hear you sound so...bored and apathetic about _Tyger, Tyger._
@@ThomeTeque At 42, I still think she's cool. I love anthro art and design. People my age didn't think anything of it like folks do now. They were just characters, not "furries". Late Gen X is very relaxed about these things.
It's in a weird spot, not dark enough sad enough or weird enough to be memorable and re watchable, but not terrible in its execution. It simply exists like the episode with Count Vertigo which will be seen later.
Just because I said cat girls that didn't mean full on furry they could have meant hybrid which would have cat heart but look human that's usually the generic term that most people think of when they see cat girl unless they're furries
What’s with DC and gorillas? Grodd, Solovar (and the entirety of Gorilla city for that matter), Malah, Gigantic from Terror on the Midway. And there’s still more who’s names I can’t remember
@@beastmaster0934, during the 60s or 70s, gorillas were just really popular for some reason. There’s a rumor that there was an edict for DC Comics that the covers of their magazines had to have a gorilla on them, even if a gorilla didn’t actually show up in the story. My guess is during this specific period, like, 12 different super gorillas were created, and those twelve have been shuffled around, remixed and reused over the decades.
Honestly the final five minutes or so are all I really like of the episode. We see Tygrus try to fight Batman to win Selina, Selina explain that you can’t win someone’s love, The trio destroying the dr lab, Tygrus sad Selina won’t love him then giving her the cure, then the beautiful rendition of the Tyger poem.
Interesting! I didn’t know Batman was once set against a Dr. Moreau type of villain. Speaking of which, I can’t shake the feeling that the voice actor for Dorian drew quite a bit of inspiration from Peter Cushing as Tarkin based on the excerpt.
That poem seems to have done more for the episode than being just quoted. The story behind the poem’s conception is also very strongly referenced with how the episode begins and the idea of God forming and creating creating the creature the Tiger which is a deadly, powerful, destructive, mysterious and beautiful creature is also brought-up in the poem. All of these ideas are brought-up within the episode with Dorian creating and forming these cat-like creatures and mentioning how and why he loves them. In that way Dorian -like how Dr. Frakenstine and Dr. Moreau did-is playing the role of God. A role in which he can create and destroy life.
This was actually one of my favorites. Interesting to see the Island of Dr. Marot be make into a cartoon. And there definitely some tragic irony here. Cat woman gets turned into a cat herself, but can’t commit to a life with a cat man that is only searching for someone to be with. Definitely getting some beide of Frankenstein feels from this.
This episode holds a special place in my heart. It was my first time hearing Tyger by William Blake, and the image of the forest while batman reads the lines? That has stuck with me for decades.
I liked the take on old 'mad doctor on an island' horror. It didn't quite come together in a point, but I really enjoyed the atmosphere and the character Tigris.
The fact that Dorian only turned Selina into a literal Catwoman so Tygrus could have a mate, it really gives off some major Bride Of Frankenstein vibes.
If I recall right, that poems main point was to argue that any diety that made the tiger and the lamb might not be the most benevolent one. Or have lots of middle ground that's easy to ignore due to the vast difference between the two creatures.
Instead of Doctor Dorian looking like the Charles Laughton Dr. Moreau from "Island of Lost Souls", he resembles Ernest Thesiger's Doctor Pretorius from "Bride of Frankenstein"! Acts like him too!
Far from the last time we'll see genetic splicing gone wrong in the DCAU. I don't remember this one very well but in retrospect I wish there had been more of a 'love triangle' going on between Selina/Batman/Tigres.
Something about this episode always felt off to me, even as a kid. I could never quite put my finger on it; they'd done the body horror thing before, so I knew it couldn't be that. Still not as weird as the Season 4 episode with the evil farmer who raises giant, mutant bugs.
For years I would talk about this episode and people would say I was crazy because they don't remember it I would tell them the exact synopsis of the episode and there like I don't remember this are you sure it even happened
My legit fan theory is that the writers of BtAS have a secret pervy Bingo game going on with every female character in the DCAU, and they mark one off whenever they manage to get one of the Bat-family with one of them on screen.
You've made good points of the episode missing some moments of the transformation and selina's story expansion it would have been more memorable or recommended but might have missed either unaware or budget reasons.
Like I said before Catwoman is my girlfriend's favorite character of all time. When we get to this episode I go "hey babe ready for this really weird episode? She goes ugh this episode is weird as hell.
to me this episode was like The Island of Dr. Moreau with a dash of King Kong in the mix, because of how Tygress takes such a shine to Selena as a Cat.
I for one would love to see another take on this idea, hopefully they'd improve on it some. At the very least Doctor Dorian and Tygrus would make for interesting antagonists for Catwoman in the comics or cartoons.
0:40 I wanted one of those flying cats sooooooooooo bad as a kid. Hell, I still want one of those cats. I also remember really liking this episode as a kid because I wanted someone to turn me into a cat. Basically, what I'm trying to say is: cat.
I was looking for a Gargoyles related comment. I thought I was the only one that always felt the resemblance of all designs here were so close to the Gargoyles cast of Sevarius.... err... I mean SEVAAARIUUUSSS, as well as Claw / Derek and his group of outcasts.
Honestly, this was one of my favorite episodes in BTAS, not just because we get to see Catwoman as an anthropomorphic cat-person. Sometimes, I kinda wish we got a bit more time with her in that form from other media. Overall, 7.5 out of 10!
There's a Frankenstein element to this episode too. You have a mad doctor, his creation, a bride for his creation, and his first creation destroying the lab has a real "We belong dead" vibe.
Yippee! Creature Double Feature. I love both Tyger Tyger and Moon of the Wolf. I once had a dream when this episode originally aired where I was a kid version of Tygrus living with the full grown version seen in this episode. I just find it odd that they are back to back.
I love this episode and it def influences my personal stories and day dreams. Not a furry but Selina looked so cool and I always wanted to be a cat person too
I kinda felt bad for Tygres. He was the only one of his kind and ended up alone. I think him not being originally human drove that point. I used wonder what became of him after Batman and Selena left the island.
There’s actually a fan comic that serves as a prequel to this episode that deals with Selena’s transformation into a cat-human hybrid unfortunately it’s NSFW or I’d link it. It also has a epilogue that deviants from canon where she is permanently transformed and lives the rest of her life as a hybrid, creating a family with the catman all while Batman keeps searching for a cure
There's an episode of "Totally Spies" where Clover is turned into a cat-human, just like Catwoman in this episode. And the villain in that episode is voiced by Selina herself, Adrienne Barbeau.
I personally like the episode but I feel like there was a big missed opportunity. This is a cool idea for a story but what's missing is the consequences of the events in the story. It's weird that this episode has great continuity by showing Batman working with Langstrom, but then the genetic mutation done to Catwoman doesn't have any repercussions. Catwoman could have been returned to human form but still have latent enhanced senses from the cat DNA. I think Gargoyles did this concept better with the mutated humans/fake Gargoyles plotline in their story where it's not all undone in one episode and consequences are still felt throughout the series.
Lol I remember liking this episode so much (I was a cat nut, and catwoman was my favorite character when I was 6) that I managed to record it on a vhs. Unfortunately my mum thought I only meant to watch it one more time and recorded soaps over it. I was mad for weeks!
I didn’t even know this episode existed until a few years ago when I saw a picture from it on a Google page, so I did a little digging, and found the episode, I watched a few times and I really like it. I’m a big fan of creature features, and I can definitely tell that this was inspired by The Island of Dr. Moreau book, Plus, Jim Cummings voices tigress and Garth perfectly, Plus Emil Dorian is a fun villain, I love the idea of animal hybrids living on an island. It’s just fascinating, also he gives me James Bond vibes for some reason, plus the animation by dong yang was top notch imo, all in all a really enjoyable episode in my opinion.😊👍😊
This épisode was obviously an hommage to old monster movies : off course there is elements of Island of doctor Moreau, but Dorian also looks like Doctor Pretorius from « Bride of Frankenstein » and his plan of hunting Batman on his island is just like Zaroff in « The most dangerous game ».
2:46 is that supposed to be in Olympia double barrel shotgun? Or is this one of those cartoon things where they give a double barrel shotgun a pump? I always find it interesting when an animation no give a character a pump-action shotgun that is also a double barrel shotgun. With the pump being where the second Barrel is. Like huh? How does that even work
Kinda like how Kyle is blonde and Cat-Catwoman's fur color is yellow. Mainly cuz a pet peeve of mine with anthropomorphic animal character designs is when they have hair color radically different from their fur color. 'Less, of course, it's stated or shown that they use dyes or somethin'.
I've probably seen too many stories like this, but was anyone else surprised that the mad scientist's end goal WASN'T to mutate himself (like everyone else was a 'test run' and he wanted to turn HIMSELF into a 'perfect' lifeform)?
I'm not gonna lie, I loved this episode when it first came on, it was also the first time I had ever heard any part of the "Tiger Tiger" poem and I became just a tad bit obsessed with finding the rest of it. This was early days of the internet still and AOL was the big name and was paid dial-up..I didn't get internet until NetZero became a thing and was free dial-up for a good while. So I didn't get to see the rest of the poem until quite some time after the episode. I still rather like it..there's a lot of good Batman Animated series episodes, it was a hell of a thing and for many people growing up in the 90's is their definitive version of Batman..I still like Adam West Batman for the goofy factor and just how much West enjoyed playing the character..grew up on reruns of that along with Animated Batman.
I really liked this episode, as it could've went plenty of others ways, though I'd have liked it if it had showed more of the relationship between Catwoman and Batman as they both were fleshed out enough by this time in the show. And the ending with the poem was quite nice, something of a mystery type of feel to it.
I vividly remember having a fight with my older sister about wether this show was any good, so I made her watch the newest episode that came on. It was this one. Well, that plan backfired...
When I was in 8th grade we had to pick a poem to recite in front of the class and then write a report on, and I chose Tyger, Tyger. Later that same month I saw this episode and I did the Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the tv meme.
What did everyone think of Tyger, Tyger?
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Insert Furry joke below.
@@jessetorres8738 Nice one.
Its one of the episodes I always skipped. I also skipped all the other Catwoman episodes, it's like they had no ideas for her.
@@jessetorres8738 yous
And, you
It could been written better. But I could be wrong
there is an element of sad poetic irony that is overlooked in this review, Catwoman admires felines and self identifies with their qualities, but when she actually becomes one, she's torn between her love for their grace and beauty but is also dejected by how unnatural what she's become and can never be with Tyger because of it.
He acknowledges it, but only inasmuch as he regrets that Catwoman's perspective isn't more fleshed out.
He acknowledges it, but only inasmuch as he regrets that Catwoman's perspective isn't more fleshed out.
He acknowledges it, but only inasmuch as he regrets that Catwoman's perspective isn't more fleshed out.
Same with the Penguin. He identifies with birds, but only because his fellow humans have rejected him. He desires to be a human, not a bird.
@@legionaireb he acknowledges it, but barely gives it any attention despite it being the major plot element for catwoman herself who constantly tries to be a voice of reason to the brooding Tyger
“I only wanted you to be strong, show no pity, no weakness”. “As you wish”. That was a great line.
Kevin Conroy reading poetry is the highlight of this episode in my opinion
Agreed.
When I caught this episode on a repeat view a while ago it caused me to look up the entire poem.
Try having him sing in a episode of Justice League.
Kevin Conroy existing is the highlight of the show
That was amazing
Same get chills everytime
Somehow she still looks a hundred times better than the 2019 Cats movie...
Friend, there's no 'somehow' about it. Lol
@@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement I think we were being punished throughout 2020 for Cats!
No one should ever talk about that abomination
@@claytonrios1
I don't know about you, but I did nothing wrong. Lol
Agreed!
I like how the doctor brings up the fact that Selina is Catwoman like it’s some big reveal, like he figured out her secret identity, even though Catwoman’s identity was public knowledge at this point. I expected Selina to have some smarmy comeback pointing that out.
How was it public knowledge? Because she got arrested?
@@svscared Doy! High-profile costumed villain gets arrested, their identity will be all over the news.
@@daliborjovanovic510 Lol well from what I remember BTAS never really showed that happening so I kind of go based on that. Usually when a character's identity is revealed it's a pretty big deal. And technically Selina shouldn't even be out of jail and roaming around already at this point of the show.
@@svscared Except they did. A lot. Selina's very next appearance after her debut has her on trial and then on probation.
This episode reminds me of the Gargoyles episode where homeless people are kidnapped off the street to be mutated into animal hybrids or mock gargoyles. Maggie Reed is in Catwoman’s position here and she later chooses to keep (some question in if the antidote would have worked) the new form.
I remember her (I watched "Garogoyles," too)!
Wasn't there also an episode where the main female (I think Ellie, I was born in '96, so I never watched the show) was turned into a gargoyle?
@@rogue7723 Elisa Maza
@@kurorintenshi Thanks :). I knew it was something that started with a "e" I just didn't know what.
@@rogue7723 Episode is called The Mirror. The first appearance of Puck and introduction of the third race to the Gargoyles world.
When you get caught doodling furries at work and now you have to pen a script for it so nobody suspects a thing...
"What's this on your desk?"
"Oh uh... it's for a new Batman story! Showcasing the uh... horrors... of genetic manipulation!"
"Brilliant! I want as much concept art on my desk as soon as possible."
Bruce Timm: great now I have to mix work with my fetish
@@dermathze700 turns out, the second guy is also a furry XD
@@mrcritical6751 Correction: "Now I GET to mix work with my fetish!"
@@louisduarte8763 "This'll probably cause a whole generation of kids to have plenty of issues... Meh, I'm getting paid to drawn furry smut"
Man, Jim Cummings has had such a long career. He's pretty much the voice of my childhood. Now whenever I rewatch something, especially on Disney+, I try to see how often I can spot his voice. Spoilers, it’s a lot.
He do be cummin
He be cumin back for new roles
Jim Cummings has had his voice in pretty much everything, it's really insane to take a look at his imdb.
He also makes calls to children's hospitals in his famous voices. I read one story about how he called a girl dying of cancer as Winnie The Pooh and her mom said it was the first time she smiled in 6 months.
That's why he's one of favorite voice actors.
There was an unwritten rule back then that if you had a cartoon in the 90s and it had a LA based voice cast, Jim Cummings HAD to make an appearance, no matter how small it was. If nothing else, I’m glad this episode finally utilized his talent to its full potential. Cummings could have easily voiced of Batman’s rogues if they had asked him.
"What is your diabolical plan?"
"To turn Catwoman into a furry!"
"And?"
"That's it."
"..."
Come on, it's obvious he wanted to watch her breed.
BRILLIANT! I mean what?
@@invock Don't you dare go Hojo on us!
-insert- "What? Why?
to be fair that's nowhere near the worst thing to happen to someone in this show
This story would’ve been far better as a comic book. If we’d seen Selina losing her humanity over a longer period through an internal monologue, the horror aspect would’ve been played up tenfold.
Agreed, it's a real pity the comics have hardly ever even gone back to this ep for ideas. It could have been part of the Dark Multiverse where Selina was never cured and instead Batman goes crazy from frustration trying to cure her leading him to turn him self as well as all of Gotham in Cat People so she won't have to feel like a freak.
That's what should have happened in _Wonder Woman 1984._
"Although I'm sure it has its fans."
*shows a clip of the furrified Catwoman trying to lick herself*
Oh, Walt... sweet, innocent, naïve Walt... I REALLY hope the context of that isn't lost on you.
I was honestly expecting A LOT more Furry jokes in this review.
But since this is a more analytical review series, it is to be expected.
OwO
I was about 8 or 9 years old when this episode first aired, and I remember being blown away with how nuanced this particular episode was. Of course, at the time I didn't have the words or mental fortitude (at that age) to articulate exactly WHY I enjoyed it so much. It was bittersweet and sad, and the ending (while good for Selina) left me feeling pensive and melancholy for several days afterwards. It was a strange feeling, liking the episode but also feeling bad for the Cat man.
That's why I'm so surprised this was rated so low here. To me, it was one of the better episodes, "almost" up there with the Mr. Freeze, _Heart of Ice_ episode and the Clayface introduction episode, _Feat of Clay._ It was disappointing to hear you sound so...bored and apathetic about _Tyger, Tyger._
I feel like this deserved to be a two-parter, really draw out and give detail to the horror
This episode was what motivated me to choose Tiger Tiger as my poem to read off memory in English class.
As a young woman, I thought she looked cool. An episode that stuck with me.
And now?
@@ThomeTeque At 42, I still think she's cool. I love anthro art and design. People my age didn't think anything of it like folks do now. They were just characters, not "furries". Late Gen X is very relaxed about these things.
This is Hands Down one of the most underrated Episodes. A true Classic
Honestly, plots involving transforming someone have always both freaked me out and intrigued me.
So close to a Batman/Darkwing Duck team-up, and yet, so far...
It's in a weird spot, not dark enough sad enough or weird enough to be memorable and re watchable, but not terrible in its execution. It simply exists like the episode with Count Vertigo which will be seen later.
Ah yes, the episode that showed people what catgirls are supposed to look like.
Well put!
All hail the paw!
Honestly this just makes me think of Cheetah or Totally Spies.
Just because I said cat girls that didn't mean full on furry they could have meant hybrid which would have cat heart but look human that's usually the generic term that most people think of when they see cat girl unless they're furries
@@nathanwalton340 How pathetic that you have to point out what a "crazy cat lady" is in an episode that is clearly about furries.
Wouldn’t be a DC property without super-powered gorillas.
What’s with DC and gorillas?
Grodd, Solovar (and the entirety of Gorilla city for that matter), Malah, Gigantic from Terror on the Midway.
And there’s still more who’s names I can’t remember
@@beastmaster0934, during the 60s or 70s, gorillas were just really popular for some reason. There’s a rumor that there was an edict for DC Comics that the covers of their magazines had to have a gorilla on them, even if a gorilla didn’t actually show up in the story. My guess is during this specific period, like, 12 different super gorillas were created, and those twelve have been shuffled around, remixed and reused over the decades.
Honestly the final five minutes or so are all I really like of the episode. We see Tygrus try to fight Batman to win Selina, Selina explain that you can’t win someone’s love, The trio destroying the dr lab, Tygrus sad Selina won’t love him then giving her the cure, then the beautiful rendition of the Tyger poem.
Interesting! I didn’t know Batman was once set against a Dr. Moreau type of villain.
Speaking of which, I can’t shake the feeling that the voice actor for Dorian drew quite a bit of inspiration from Peter Cushing as Tarkin based on the excerpt.
Possibly. Also from Dr. Pretorius from Bride of Frankenstein? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Septimus_Pretorius
That poem seems to have done more for the episode than being just quoted. The story behind the poem’s conception is also very strongly referenced with how the episode begins and the idea of God forming and creating creating the creature the Tiger which is a deadly, powerful, destructive, mysterious and beautiful creature is also brought-up in the poem. All of these ideas are brought-up within the episode with Dorian creating and forming these cat-like creatures and mentioning how and why he loves them. In that way Dorian -like how Dr. Frakenstine and Dr. Moreau did-is playing the role of God. A role in which he can create and destroy life.
This was actually one of my favorites.
Interesting to see the Island of Dr. Marot be make into a cartoon. And there definitely some tragic irony here. Cat woman gets turned into a cat herself, but can’t commit to a life with a cat man that is only searching for someone to be with.
Definitely getting some beide of Frankenstein feels from this.
This episode holds a special place in my heart. It was my first time hearing Tyger by William Blake, and the image of the forest while batman reads the lines? That has stuck with me for decades.
I liked the take on old 'mad doctor on an island' horror. It didn't quite come together in a point, but I really enjoyed the atmosphere and the character Tigris.
The fact that Dorian only turned Selina into a literal Catwoman so Tygrus could have a mate, it really gives off some major Bride Of Frankenstein vibes.
Dr. Dorian turned Catwoman into the 2020 Cheetah.
This episode...
Yeah, this one awoke something in me
If I recall right, that poems main point was to argue that any diety that made the tiger and the lamb might not be the most benevolent one. Or have lots of middle ground that's easy to ignore due to the vast difference between the two creatures.
Instead of Doctor Dorian looking like the Charles Laughton Dr. Moreau from "Island of Lost Souls", he resembles Ernest Thesiger's Doctor Pretorius from "Bride of Frankenstein"! Acts like him too!
"Human animal hybrid-" Dude it's ok, it's 2021. You can call them Furries.
Ah, the Batman episode that launched a thousand furries.
Had to happen sooner or later.
Well furries were around to a degree before 1992, but yeah this episode probably accelerated it. LOL
Disney films in the 90’s also helped as well.
@@RYMAN1321
Robin Hood, anyone!?🦊
Ah yes.....the episode that awoke it all.
lol "awoke" what?
@@UltimateGamerCC awakened the f u r r y
@@tiredTheorist truth
And now all I can think of are three Furries doing Pillar Men poses. My day is ruined and you are to blame.
@@michaelcarmona7838 welcome to the internet.
Far from the last time we'll see genetic splicing gone wrong in the DCAU. I don't remember this one very well but in retrospect I wish there had been more of a 'love triangle' going on between Selina/Batman/Tigres.
Something about this episode always felt off to me, even as a kid. I could never quite put my finger on it; they'd done the body horror thing before, so I knew it couldn't be that. Still not as weird as the Season 4 episode with the evil farmer who raises giant, mutant bugs.
@AgentFlea Yeah, I feel like this might be more appropriate in an episode of Superman
@AgentFlea How can you be racist to a furry?
@@brandonnix7278 technically he's racist to flurries, and no, i don't know how you do that, either.
When Catwomans a better Cheetah than Wonder Woman 1984.
While I concede that her design could’ve been better, I didn’t mind it too much.
I felt Kristin Wiig did pretty good though.
@@RYMAN1321 yes indeed! ❤ I wished he got more of her screentime!
For years I would talk about this episode and people would say I was crazy because they don't remember it I would tell them the exact synopsis of the episode and there like I don't remember this are you sure it even happened
It's like trying to talk to people about Turbo Teen.
It's like trying to talk to people about Turbo Teen.
@@legionaireb What's turbo teen?
@@wisconsinking323 exactly
That poem quote from William Blake was used as a chapter name in Alan Moore's Watchmen graphic novel.
Calvin quotes it to annoy a sleeping Hobbes.
my insane fan theory is that bruce was kinda secretly into cat Selina and that's why he seduced/made out with cheetah in justice league
Makes sense to me, I mean Batman is clearly a Furry him self with they way he dresses up like a bat.
BUT HEY, it's just a theory...
@@lworthy2518 ...A TOON THEORY!
My legit fan theory is that the writers of BtAS have a secret pervy Bingo game going on with every female character in the DCAU, and they mark one off whenever they manage to get one of the Bat-family with one of them on screen.
You've made good points of the episode missing some moments of the transformation and selina's story expansion it would have been more memorable or recommended but might have missed either unaware or budget reasons.
Like I said before Catwoman is my girlfriend's favorite character of all time. When we get to this episode I go "hey babe ready for this really weird episode? She goes ugh this episode is weird as hell.
I;ve seen this get called the worst episode but i like it. it feels like a classic horror movie crossed with an action show
Same here!
All real Bat favs love this episode. Moon of the Wolf is def the worst episode
I've always really liked this episode a lot. I personally fee the tragic pathos of Tygris is genuinely portrayed here, rather than "falling flat"
This one stuck with me for years and I still can't figure out why.
Reminds me of the “splicers” episode of Batman beyond.
to me this episode was like The Island of Dr. Moreau with a dash of King Kong in the mix, because of how Tygress takes such a shine to Selena as a Cat.
Its intresting that in batman beyond, turning people into hybrids is also in an episode and has become a trend in neo gotham
Which episode was it? I remember it but I can’t remember the name.
@@zigslotheon splicers
I for one would love to see another take on this idea, hopefully they'd improve on it some. At the very least Doctor Dorian and Tygrus would make for interesting antagonists for Catwoman in the comics or cartoons.
Hey, I remember seeing a re-run of this episode when I was a little kid
0:40 I wanted one of those flying cats sooooooooooo bad as a kid.
Hell, I still want one of those cats.
I also remember really liking this episode as a kid because I wanted someone to turn me into a cat.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is: cat.
This episode could have been a good intro for the DCAU Cheetah.
I always figured Batman dumped Dorian into the ocean as soon as he left the island.
Catwoman, Red Claw, Cheetah (in Justice League). I think Batman has a type.
0:43 Oh my goodness, it's Doctor Sevarius! Oh, wait, no, wrong cartoon.
I was looking for a Gargoyles related comment.
I thought I was the only one that always felt the resemblance of all designs here were so close to the Gargoyles cast of Sevarius.... err... I mean SEVAAARIUUUSSS, as well as Claw / Derek and his group of outcasts.
Honestly, this was one of my favorite episodes in BTAS, not just because we get to see Catwoman as an anthropomorphic cat-person. Sometimes, I kinda wish we got a bit more time with her in that form from other media.
Overall, 7.5 out of 10!
I'm amazed that you didn't mention that Selina is naked for most of the episode
I actually really like this episode but do think it would have fit better in a later series like JLU as the sci-fi subject matter was more prominent.
This was a weird one.
I think that reciting "Tyger, tyger" also worked as a WATCHMEN reference.
There's a Frankenstein element to this episode too. You have a mad doctor, his creation, a bride for his creation, and his first creation destroying the lab has a real "We belong dead" vibe.
Didn't know Batman did a crossover with Cats.
Yippee! Creature Double Feature. I love both Tyger Tyger and Moon of the Wolf. I once had a dream when this episode originally aired where I was a kid version of Tygrus living with the full grown version seen in this episode.
I just find it odd that they are back to back.
1:30 - 1:34 A missing extra from Felidae
I love this episode and it def influences my personal stories and day dreams. Not a furry but Selina looked so cool and I always wanted to be a cat person too
This should’ve been a two part episode. Great show
"Tyger Tyger burning bright in the forests of the night what immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry"
William Blake
Red John..
Thank you for the episode.
I kinda felt bad for Tygres. He was the only one of his kind and ended up alone. I think him not being originally human drove that point. I used wonder what became of him after Batman and Selena left the island.
The Island Of Dr. Moreau is a major influence for this episode.
Ya he said that
@@connorolita5342 Yeah, even in the first 20 seconds of the video.
There’s actually a fan comic that serves as a prequel to this episode that deals with Selena’s transformation into a cat-human hybrid unfortunately it’s NSFW or I’d link it. It also has a epilogue that deviants from canon where she is permanently transformed and lives the rest of her life as a hybrid, creating a family with the catman all while Batman keeps searching for a cure
Think you could at least give the name?
@@autobotproductions1244 Feline Instincs by Pia-sama and Locofuria
@@Hawkx10 And I'm not suprised. I think I actually saw some of that years ago.
There's an episode of "Totally Spies" where Clover is turned into a cat-human, just like Catwoman in this episode.
And the villain in that episode is voiced by Selina herself, Adrienne Barbeau.
I personally like the episode but I feel like there was a big missed opportunity.
This is a cool idea for a story but what's missing is the consequences of the events in the story.
It's weird that this episode has great continuity by showing Batman working with Langstrom, but then the genetic mutation done to Catwoman doesn't have any repercussions. Catwoman could have been returned to human form but still have latent enhanced senses from the cat DNA. I think Gargoyles did this concept better with the mutated humans/fake Gargoyles plotline in their story where it's not all undone in one episode and consequences are still felt throughout the series.
Always thought the designs were looking so similar too
the funny thing is that Dr Dorian would have easily been able to find volunteers for his experiments if he just asked gothams furry community
Lol I remember liking this episode so much (I was a cat nut, and catwoman was my favorite character when I was 6) that I managed to record it on a vhs.
Unfortunately my mum thought I only meant to watch it one more time and recorded soaps over it. I was mad for weeks!
I didn’t even know this episode existed until a few years ago when I saw a picture from it on a Google page, so I did a little digging, and found the episode, I watched a few times and I really like it. I’m a big fan of creature features, and I can definitely tell that this was inspired by The Island of Dr. Moreau book, Plus, Jim Cummings voices tigress and Garth perfectly, Plus Emil Dorian is a fun villain, I love the idea of animal hybrids living on an island. It’s just fascinating, also he gives me James Bond vibes for some reason, plus the animation by dong yang was top notch imo, all in all a really enjoyable episode in my opinion.😊👍😊
This épisode was obviously an hommage to old monster movies : off course there is elements of Island of doctor Moreau, but Dorian also looks like Doctor Pretorius from « Bride of Frankenstein » and his plan of hunting Batman on his island is just like Zaroff in « The most dangerous game ».
"This is body horror"
No, is furry fantasy
got to love how this ep of Bat May made me understand one of the Resident Evil 8 bosses better
that is a really good read at the end
You know what would've made this episode great? Fox, Shark and Vulture
2:46 is that supposed to be in Olympia double barrel shotgun? Or is this one of those cartoon things where they give a double barrel shotgun a pump? I always find it interesting when an animation no give a character a pump-action shotgun that is also a double barrel shotgun. With the pump being where the second Barrel is. Like huh? How does that even work
The poem at the end was a great choice. It's a good poem on its own. But read in Kevin Conroy's voice........amazing!
Dr Emil Dorian is def based off Dr. Pretorious from Bride of Frankenstein
Kinda like how Kyle is blonde and Cat-Catwoman's fur color is yellow. Mainly cuz a pet peeve of mine with anthropomorphic animal character designs is when they have hair color radically different from their fur color. 'Less, of course, it's stated or shown that they use dyes or somethin'.
I've probably seen too many stories like this, but was anyone else surprised that the mad scientist's end goal WASN'T to mutate himself (like everyone else was a 'test run' and he wanted to turn HIMSELF into a 'perfect' lifeform)?
Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
"Catwoaman becomes a furry"
Yep
3:41 That’s Lord BoxMan.
I still remember Tyger Tyger burning bright, in the forests of the night because of this episode.
I'm not gonna lie, I loved this episode when it first came on, it was also the first time I had ever heard any part of the "Tiger Tiger" poem and I became just a tad bit obsessed with finding the rest of it. This was early days of the internet still and AOL was the big name and was paid dial-up..I didn't get internet until NetZero became a thing and was free dial-up for a good while. So I didn't get to see the rest of the poem until quite some time after the episode. I still rather like it..there's a lot of good Batman Animated series episodes, it was a hell of a thing and for many people growing up in the 90's is their definitive version of Batman..I still like Adam West Batman for the goofy factor and just how much West enjoyed playing the character..grew up on reruns of that along with Animated Batman.
What is it with mad scientists trying to create "the ultimate lifeform" ?
Dr.Gero and Cell,Gerald Robotnik and Shadow and so many others
Nazis were obsessed with it, so it’s a believable motive
@@esteemedmortal5917 True but it has become a trope at this point and is interesting when done right
I can’t believe he went the whole episode without making one reference to Cheetah, I was waiting for it the whole time lol
I really liked this episode, as it could've went plenty of others ways, though I'd have liked it if it had showed more of the relationship between Catwoman and Batman as they both were fleshed out enough by this time in the show. And the ending with the poem was quite nice, something of a mystery type of feel to it.
"Although I'm sure it has its fans"
[shot of anthro cat licking herself]
*Bruh*
Batman reading a poem? Eh, no problem. Batman SINGING Blues... now that I can get behind!
I vividly remember having a fight with my older sister about wether this show was any good, so I made her watch the newest episode that came on. It was this one.
Well, that plan backfired...
I never know that cheetah in batman animated series
When I was in 8th grade we had to pick a poem to recite in front of the class and then write a report on, and I chose Tyger, Tyger.
Later that same month I saw this episode and I did the Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at the tv meme.