Midline Figure 8, Is it Better Than an Alpine Butterfly for a Truckers Hitch?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- The Bowline is often used to make a Truckers Hitch to secure a load or make a ridgeline. Here is why I think the Midline Fig 8 is better and how to tie it. Here is a link to untie it.
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John it's quick it's easy to remember and it 's engineered logically and it's aesthetically and visually pleasing as well. I doubt that I will ever need an Alpine butterfly again...
way to go mate! Thanks for putting a NEW twist on an old favorite...
Tied and like. Now just have to repeat many times and see if I remember it when I need it!
That's the key. Use it or you lose it. Thanks for the feedback. Glad you like it.
Another bloody good video John - really useful. Thanks
Cheers mate, I try lol
I like this know a lot! Thank you.
Cheers. Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
Love it!
The queen of knots takes a blow to the chest!
Another tool for the box. Thanks
The Alpine Butterfly is a great knot. Just this is easier and faster to tie for this application. As you say, another knot for the toolbox
I reckon the alpine is easier to undo, but I use neither to tie a trucker's hitch, they're unnecessary.
Totally agree. The idea that a truckers hitch is hard to untie is such BS. Never had an issue.
Tie with synthetic.
This directional figure 8 seems to be an excellent replacement for the alpine butterfly in the trucker's hitch tensioning system. A quick check indicates strength test results are equivalent for both knots. I use the figure 8 often as a midline loop with close to straight pull out of the knot. I will be looking forward to examining this knot under actual working conditions. Thanks for sharing the option.
Cheers. Let me know how you go. I can't fault it. It is also as easy to untie as the Alpine butterfly.
@@OutdoorAcademyAustralia It seems to me, given your suggestions, the a. butterfly would be a suitable dropper knot to suspend loads from a taut line.
@@donkpow absolutely. A perfect application. You could also use a prusic or girth hitch if you wanted to make it adjustable up and down the line.
@@OutdoorAcademyAustralia I actually keep a couple of pretied prussic loops in my rigging bag. I have used them as a basis for the tensioning system as an alternative for the loop knots under discussion. Also useful to 'grab' a loaded line for removal. 😉
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right on, dude. just used for the midline loop on a trucker's hitch (like your Truckee hitch). works fine. comes undone easy.
thanks!
Cool, cheers for the feedback.
I like this presentation. I will apply it next time I do a trucker's hitch. Thx.
Let me know how you go
Really great knot matey , cheers. I have a few of your trucky hitch videos saved.
Cheers mate. A handy tool for sure
Good information, thanks. I occasionally use the directional Fig-8 but tie it in a different way. I like your method better, where you start with a loop. What is your experience with ease of untying after loading moderately heavy? Seems to me that the AB unties easier.
I have found that if you use decent rope and break the back of the knot as you would with a bowline, it comes apart as easily as the AB. I still prefer the Half sheepshank for ease of untying though.
@@OutdoorAcademyAustralia Yes, saw your excellent sheepshank video. I've been experimenting with those techniques more as a result.
👍 I've been using the Alpine Butterfly in my trucker's hitches because I remember it easier. I'm going to try this one. Although it's directional, it's easy and looks cleaner. Not to mention the Figure 8 comes apart just as easy. Thanks.
Cool. Let me know how it goes for you.
Great idea! Great video! 👍
Cheers mate.
Very handy idea. Thank you
No worries, cheers.
Nice video brother, I gave ya a shoutout in one of my recent ones as I learned the Truckies from you.
I’m line figure 8 is a great one, I find it binds up more than the Alpine Butterfly, but I wonder what negative effect the slight distortion has. Great work as always!
Cheers D.J. I saw your shout out and replied on the video, but as you have so many subscribers it would've got lost in the comments lol. So far I haven't had this bind up. I break the back of the knot similar to a bowline and it comes right undone. Maybe small diameter stuff like paracord is a bit more difficult. I appreciate you reaching out mate.
P.S. Congratulations on the Million Subscribers. Awsome work.
@@OutdoorAcademyAustraliaah shoot sorry about that!! I didn’t see the reply!
And good stuff with the binding, I may switch over to this from now on. Thanks brother!!
I've done it without knowing it!
Nice
I'll add that to my to do list, Thanks.
Let me know how you go
That's a good one. I'll be trying thatbone for sure.
Cool. Let me know how it goes
Man ! ! ! That's awesome.
I'm sobglad I've subscribed to your channel.
I appreciate it. Cheers mate
I'd be curious how easy it is to intimidate after loading the knot. I know a traditional Figure 8 is a bear once it's been loaded.
I haven't had it bind up yet. Break the back of the knot as you would with a bowline. I may do a video on untying it soon.
Thank for vidéo awesome knot
Cheers, thanks for watching
tres bien
Cheers.
Love it.
Cheers mate.
Thank you for this video. One of the main advantages of the butterfly loop is how easy you can untie it. Is this knot also as easy to untie?
Yes it is. Simply break the back same as a bowline and it comes right apart.
The alpine butterfly non-jamming, while the better-looking directional figure-8 is jamming. After normal loading both untie easily. After heavy loading like a rescue z-drag, the alpine butterfly is the one that unties more easily.
благодарю вас,такое мне по нраву.
That's great. Thank you
Will the figure of eight bind when it's under tension?
Nope. Undone as easily as an Alpine butterfly.
I use bubble gum to secure heavy, valuabe loads.
Haha.
I will have to try that thanks
Let me know how you go
I’ve been trying it out on some thicker and thinner rope while securing some loads and I have to say I like it a lot thanks for the tip!
@@jds653q awsome I made another video on how to untie it after its been under load. Check that out.
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