I think body panels are the least of your concerns when buying a second hand landie , mechanicals is where I spend more of my time , walking a code reader is always a must .
Another good video again Simon...mighty useful if anybody out there feels brave! My guess on asking price should be £2500 with that many faults...it would be interesting to know what the vendor wanted. A good project car for you but a bit of a nightmare if you are a private buyer relying on a garage to do any jobs. Good luck with it!!!😀😀😀😀
It pays to remember that due to the CAN bus system a single fault in one module can cause fault codes in other modules. I'm guessing all the communication faults that returned are related to the park brake module being disconnected. Would have liked to see you test all the terrain response settings to make sure they all do as they should. If they did in fact work it's highly likely the communication fault is not going to effect the function of the terrain response.
Early car with side steps - definitely recommend checking for rust on the sills - easily checked from underneath - also rust in the centre rear portion of the body in the rear arches and wings. Little disappointed at connecting a code reader, and then clearing DTCs without owner's permission. As another comment suggested - some (not all) of those codes were useful to be aware of - I would have politely told you what I thought of that - had this been my car.
I had asked him and he was worried some of the codes resulted from a flat battery / battery change so was happy for me to see which ones were real and which ones were not... the airbag faults cleared and did no come back so would appear to have been false readings.
@@johns.3821 Just ordered a set of these www.britpart.com/parts/exterior-protection/side-protection/rock-sliders/da7533 So will do a video when we remove the sills....i think some paint will be in order !
I had an 06 Discovery 3, bought it with only 27,000 miles on it 9 years ago, when great for two years, in year 3 and 4 it needed over £8000 worth of stupid repairs. Egr valves, all the door locks, both front wheel hub assemblies, alternator, rear drop links, corroded brake pipes, front rubber door seals, driver seat fabric worn to a hole and the car was fully serviced by Land Rover. Never again will I by a Land Rover. I had a Freelander before that, head gasket went on that. My conclusion is that Land Rovers are nowhere near the asking price in terms of build quality and design. My friend ordered a brand new Velar, in the first month it was in the garage for 8 days, he handed it back and bought at Volkswagen. Land Rover's reliability issues are fat too numerous for me and I know lots of other drivers feel the same.
To own a Land rover Discovery, one has to be competent in carrying out your own repairs. The Land Rover mechanics will take you for a real ride and empty your pockets fast. They turn your wallets into a bottomless money pit lol
My 200r freelander has been a little peach, head gasket changed 11years ago, since that hiccup, she hasn't missed a beat. Would like a D3/D4 prefer the most basic one, manual, cloth seats etc....but would kill to have all the heated bits my freelander has on it (mirrors and seats)
Cheap paint will do that, esp single stage paint, which is clearcoat & color in one. That's what they use on cheap resprays, while factory or a quality (e.g. expensive) paint job will be color + a clear coat...
In the words of Lord Humungus "Just Walk Away!", that thing is beat. And that isn't a cold day. If the windows are failing in that weather they probably don't work at all, Discovery 3 owner in the land of -25C here, and my windows work at all temps. With that milage all the rear suspension is toast. Add on the non working air suspension, parking brake in op, windows, questionable air bag codes etc... unless it's $500 car, walk away. Other areas to check: If you live in a rust prone area the brake lines to the rear rust out , rear brake backing plates rust away. As stated above the rear suspension, upper control arms for sure, most likely both bushings in the knuckles, lower arms... front tie rods, swaybar bushings... now we haven't even got to the trans and the sealed for life oil. Given the current owners lack of maintenance I'm going to go with it never have been changed.
Yeah, auto handbrake system is crud... as is the central locking and ride height adjustment. We've had ours for 5 years and had it not been for a very handy car thief stealing our ride, we'd have had to pay thousands to keep her going... we didn't.
Car Wizard said it best recently, "During these Pandemic times, it's important to remember everyones going through it with you, and they're finding their vehicles are needing repairs they can't afford themselves so they are selling to try and get rid of their headache" (not verbatim; paraphrasing)
Good video, typical D3 faults and issues. Nothing drastic though. I bet if you pulled the handbrake module cover off in situ (few torx screws and sealer) ....... and manually wound it back to connect the emergency release cable cable it would work fine after you cleaned up and adjusted the handbrake shoes. Most D3 modules do not it need replacingt tbh. Just manually wind it back using a chisel or screwdriver as it will be jammed. saves about 1k tbh for a new unit. I have done a couple of these when garages wanted to charge 1-2k to replace the whole unit.
Are you sure it has not got air con as you said twice it does not? There is sticker under the bonnet with the gas information on it and sure I seen an air con pipe. Econ button as far as I was aware was to switch of air conditioning. I only ask as if you are doing a buying guide better to have the correct information.
Is picking up a 2006 LR3 for a weekend off-road vehicle a good idea regarding availability of parts? I’d love to get my hands on a nice used one to mess around with. The V8SE seemed to be a decently reliable engine.
My fathers disco 4 is a 2010 and he’s owned it for about 6 years now, all it’s ever needed is a fuel sender unit which caused it to cut out and a rear prop shaft...apart from disc and pads and tyres that’s all we’ve ever done...I honestly don’t understand what people do with Land Rovers because our family have owned plenty over the last 30 years... we’ve obviously had some problems in that time, it’s a vehicle at the end of the day!
My own tdi defender has racked up well over 300,000 miles now and it’s my everyday vehicle, I’ve owned it for 18 years and the only thing I’ve done with the engine is the headgasket, apart from the clutch exploded it’s been 100% reliable, it’s obviously had problems but it’s only left me on the side of the road with the clutch problem!
If it's Land Rover , just check that you have a spare 20K sitting in the bank for maintenance and repairs just in case, whenever the money light comes on. We have had three varient's, Sport, Evoque and Disco........and they love your wallet.....vehicle can often be found sneaking around house looking for it or thinking what it should break next....to make your day! But hey.........it s love affair and a hard habit to break. They just look.......Elegant, stylish, posh, wanking tractors.........., but I love em to bits even when they cost me a fortune to keep running. Sigh........
Could not have put it better I had one for the last 2 years and I am back to my trusted Pajero/Shogun which still shocks me with how reliable it is but as you say its a love affair so I am looking for my next disco 3
Yes that can be an issue but hard to tell if the problem is about to start... they can fail at 70K mile or never - my Disco 4 has done over 200K miles !
What is this problem that land rovers have with their door locks? I have the same problem with my LR2 rear doors. It should have been a recall. Seems to be a default issue.
Most of the faults cleared and didn't return, the ones that did return were all communication faults that are probably due to the park brake module being disconnected.
There is some debate if the car does actually have AC or not - see below comments. Having said that living in the UK the aircon is only used a few weeks every year...
Gone are the days where you can just put the keys in and start it, now you have to be an APP genius to even attempt to start it! We are doomed with all this stupid technology!
Or you could just buy a real G4, everywhere I take mine (RRS) I get waves and smiles...even done a couple of weddings, lots of smiles... Only drawback is V8 petrol ....20 on a run and 15 round town....
@ Mark Bentley. Theres one on Facebook for £35,000!!!!!! Mine is 70,000 miles in above average condition, first at £22,000 - grand kids are so expensive...
reasons... 1) to trick a fool like me into thinking its a high spec gem ! 2) to trick webuyanycar into paying out loads for it... this clearly did not work as it was for sale on ebay 3) second hand tailgate from a HSE 4) were the G4's all badged as HSE ? 5) The HSE lettering was cheaper from Land Rover... could be true ! 6) He wanted to impress the ladies at work...and as we know all the girls prefer a man with a HSE... These are just a few of the reasons why somebody would do such a thing.......
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Something you missed is pulling the inspection plate off above the tow bar. Thats another potential rust spot.
I think body panels are the least of your concerns when buying a second hand landie , mechanicals is where I spend more of my time , walking a code reader is always a must .
An outstanding video, best I have found , excellent info delivered with speed ,instead of the usual extraneous chatter
Thanks ...but i fear you have been over generous with your flattery....
Another good video again Simon...mighty useful if anybody out there feels brave! My guess on asking price should be £2500 with that many faults...it would be interesting to know what the vendor wanted. A good project car for you but a bit of a nightmare if you are a private buyer relying on a garage to do any jobs. Good luck with it!!!😀😀😀😀
Very good and helpful for people to check out before buying i also learn few things from this video
Thanks 🙏 for the update
It pays to remember that due to the CAN bus system a single fault in one module can cause fault codes in other modules.
I'm guessing all the communication faults that returned are related to the park brake module being disconnected.
Would have liked to see you test all the terrain response settings to make sure they all do as they should.
If they did in fact work it's highly likely the communication fault is not going to effect the function of the terrain response.
Yes i think you are correct.. would be a good project.
I would not have cleared the codes without saving them, there was a wealth of information in there about the cars' history.
HSE badge on the back ... and very few features inside the car?
Early car with side steps - definitely recommend checking for rust on the sills - easily checked from underneath - also rust in the centre rear portion of the body in the rear arches and wings. Little disappointed at connecting a code reader, and then clearing DTCs without owner's permission. As another comment suggested - some (not all) of those codes were useful to be aware of - I would have politely told you what I thought of that - had this been my car.
I had asked him and he was worried some of the codes resulted from a flat battery / battery change so was happy for me to see which ones were real and which ones were not... the airbag faults cleared and did no come back so would appear to have been false readings.
@@L663 ah ok - the video makes out like you read then erased DTCs without the owners permission...
@@johns.3821 I actually purchased the car - just got it delivered.... subscribe to see more updates...
@@L663 I'd be interested to see what the sills look like rust wise, and the rear wheel wells with the plastic inner covers removed.
@@johns.3821 Just ordered a set of these
www.britpart.com/parts/exterior-protection/side-protection/rock-sliders/da7533
So will do a video when we remove the sills....i think some paint will be in order !
At last found the story behind the G4 Replica Disco ,often thought what the story was as I watched the new Defender Video .
I had an 06 Discovery 3, bought it with only 27,000 miles on it 9 years ago, when great for two years, in year 3 and 4 it needed over £8000 worth of stupid repairs. Egr valves, all the door locks, both front wheel hub assemblies, alternator, rear drop links, corroded brake pipes, front rubber door seals, driver seat fabric worn to a hole and the car was fully serviced by Land Rover. Never again will I by a Land Rover. I had a Freelander before that, head gasket went on that. My conclusion is that Land Rovers are nowhere near the asking price in terms of build quality and design. My friend ordered a brand new Velar, in the first month it was in the garage for 8 days, he handed it back and bought at Volkswagen. Land Rover's reliability issues are fat too numerous for me and I know lots of other drivers feel the same.
To own a Land rover Discovery, one has to be competent in carrying out your own repairs. The Land Rover mechanics will take you for a real ride and empty your pockets fast. They turn your wallets into a bottomless money pit lol
My 200r freelander has been a little peach, head gasket changed 11years ago, since that hiccup, she hasn't missed a beat. Would like a D3/D4 prefer the most basic one, manual, cloth seats etc....but would kill to have all the heated bits my freelander has on it (mirrors and seats)
Quite surprising how the colour has faded compared to the door jams.
A job for T-Cut !
No...it is covered in frost..that is why it looks faded!
Did you buy that disco Simon?
@@drinternatg6391 its sort of ongoing....
Cheap paint will do that, esp single stage paint, which is clearcoat & color in one. That's what they use on cheap resprays, while factory or a quality (e.g. expensive) paint job will be color + a clear coat...
Brilliant tutorial great job
In the words of Lord Humungus "Just Walk Away!", that thing is beat. And that isn't a cold day. If the windows are failing in that weather they probably don't work at all, Discovery 3 owner in the land of -25C here, and my windows work at all temps. With that milage all the rear suspension is toast. Add on the non working air suspension, parking brake in op, windows, questionable air bag codes etc... unless it's $500 car, walk away. Other areas to check: If you live in a rust prone area the brake lines to the rear rust out , rear brake backing plates rust away. As stated above the rear suspension, upper control arms for sure, most likely both bushings in the knuckles, lower arms... front tie rods, swaybar bushings... now we haven't even got to the trans and the sealed for life oil. Given the current owners lack of maintenance I'm going to go with it never have been changed.
Yeah, auto handbrake system is crud... as is the central locking and ride height adjustment. We've had ours for 5 years and had it not been for a very handy car thief stealing our ride, we'd have had to pay thousands to keep her going... we didn't.
You shall save the faults in the first instance and after run a delete .
Many faults needs a run of couple of miles in order to disappear .
great video, I didnt even know you could get a disco without AC. Obviously the HSE badge on the back is fake
He's wrong. There's AC, the "ECON" button means AC off.
Car Wizard said it best recently, "During these Pandemic times, it's important to remember everyones going through it with you, and they're finding their vehicles are needing repairs they can't afford themselves so they are selling to try and get rid of their headache" (not verbatim; paraphrasing)
Good video, typical D3 faults and issues. Nothing drastic though. I bet if you pulled the handbrake module cover off in situ (few torx screws and sealer) ....... and manually wound it back to connect the emergency release cable cable it would work fine after you cleaned up and adjusted the handbrake shoes. Most D3 modules do not it need replacingt tbh. Just manually wind it back using a chisel or screwdriver as it will be jammed. saves about 1k tbh for a new unit. I have done a couple of these when garages wanted to charge 1-2k to replace the whole unit.
Are you sure it has not got air con as you said twice it does not? There is sticker under the bonnet with the gas information on it and sure I seen an air con pipe. Econ button as far as I was aware was to switch of air conditioning. I only ask as if you are doing a buying guide better to have the correct information.
Is picking up a 2006 LR3 for a weekend off-road vehicle a good idea regarding availability of parts? I’d love to get my hands on a nice used one to mess around with. The V8SE seemed to be a decently reliable engine.
Awesome walk through, thanks!
Suspension won't move with the bonnet up either, and manual doesn't mean cheap
My fathers disco 4 is a 2010 and he’s owned it for about 6 years now, all it’s ever needed is a fuel sender unit which caused it to cut out and a rear prop shaft...apart from disc and pads and tyres that’s all we’ve ever done...I honestly don’t understand what people do with Land Rovers because our family have owned plenty over the last 30 years... we’ve obviously had some problems in that time, it’s a vehicle at the end of the day!
Thanks for sharing your experience.... there are a lot of high mileage Land Rovers out there... so they are doing the miles everyday.
My own tdi defender has racked up well over 300,000 miles now and it’s my everyday vehicle, I’ve owned it for 18 years and the only thing I’ve done with the engine is the headgasket, apart from the clutch exploded it’s been 100% reliable, it’s obviously had problems but it’s only left me on the side of the road with the clutch problem!
If it's Land Rover , just check that you have a spare 20K sitting in the bank for maintenance and repairs just in case, whenever the money light comes on. We have had three varient's, Sport, Evoque and Disco........and they love your wallet.....vehicle can often be found sneaking around house looking for it or thinking what it should break next....to make your day!
But hey.........it s love affair and a hard habit to break. They just look.......Elegant, stylish, posh, wanking tractors.........., but I love em to bits even when they cost me a fortune to keep running.
Sigh........
Just like the kids then....
@@L663 exactly!!! 😎
Could not have put it better I had one for the last 2 years and I am back to my trusted Pajero/Shogun which still shocks me with how reliable it is but as you say its a love affair so I am looking for my next disco 3
Hahahahaha love it!!! Stop sighing you ol’ bugger 😂
Very useful video. Thanks Simon.
Great video again lads, get a charger for your phone, 16% haha 😂 looks like a tired bus,
I feel like a teenager when....
1) my phone runs out of battery
2) i run out of data
3) i have a meltdown when the internet goes down ...
What about the crankshaft issue associated with the TDV6?
Yes that can be an issue but hard to tell if the problem is about to start... they can fail at 70K mile or never - my Disco 4 has done over 200K miles !
Change the oil pump immediately if you purchase one at 70,000 miles. The Oil pump failure cases crank shaft destruction and engine failure.
What IID Tool do you use? :)
Strange, did anyone notice that the seat is on the wrong side?
The 13 people who don't like this video own a Freelander!!! lol
Cheers mate!
or cuz its replica
What is this problem that land rovers have with their door locks? I have the same problem with my LR2 rear doors. It should have been a recall. Seems to be a default issue.
I have to agree .... my 2005 Vauxhall Astra door central locking works every day... never had one fail on any other car !
South Hill Farm D2 (LR2) has a funny system from BMW. D3 is totally different.
wow! look at the difference in the colour!
rust ,,, thats all you need to cjheck
rest can be fixed easily enough .
unless its a td5 not starting of course
I never knew such a basic spec Discovery existed.
Me to !
Is it posable toe to tel us what brand tool your using
Hi - it is an IID Tool from GAP Diagnostics.
basic HSE? interesting...
Man do I miss my disco 3
The first thing one should check, would be their sanity!
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LOL LOOOOO. Not if you are capable of repairing it yourself
that's a lot of faults are the discovery 4's more reliable than the 3's?
They did sort out some of the early issues but they are 90% the same car !
The only reliable parts are the Tyres and the gear knob! Overpriced money pit's!
@@centaurus5676 lol money pits lol. If you can repair it yourself it will be much cheaper to own
Did you buy this in the end? Or was it to far gone?
I am trying to buy it .... for the right price...
Probably a work model. Oil Companies buy these by the dozens as fleet vehicles.
These are worse at blowing head gaskets than a P38
Didnt know they sold a discovery so basic it didnt have aircon
He's wrong... ECON means "AC off"
I Just Love You videos :-)
I can assure you I am my own biggest fan !..... just ask the people I work with...
All those faults on a utility vehicle? Where LR taking the piss?
Most of the faults cleared and didn't return, the ones that did return were all communication faults that are probably due to the park brake module being disconnected.
Wow you could get a D3 with no AC?
There is some debate if the car does actually have AC or not - see below comments. Having said that living in the UK the aircon is only used a few weeks every year...
Gone are the days where you can just put the keys in and start it, now you have to be an APP genius to even attempt to start it! We are doomed with all this stupid technology!
Technology has made vehicles unreliable and expensive to repair
Whats the asking price on this Orange bad boy?
£3900 ish ......lots of problems....but a good project car ?
@@L663 sounds a good deal. Let's hope nothing drive train needs attention.
Or you could just buy a real G4, everywhere I take mine (RRS) I get waves and smiles...even done a couple of weddings, lots of smiles...
Only drawback is V8 petrol ....20 on a run and 15 round town....
@@alanedwards6491 Wish i had the dosh for your RRS ........Will have to make do with the D3 G4
@ Mark Bentley. Theres one on Facebook for £35,000!!!!!!
Mine is 70,000 miles in above average condition, first at £22,000 - grand kids are so expensive...
Looks like an ex RAC Disco 3
Never and I mean never, raise a cars suspension to look underneath it!
That car in the back ground trying to start sounds like a old honda CX500 with a flat battery 😂
It was a quad bike the same guy was trying to sell...
😂
omg the first thing one should check is, money on your account for another engine
Flippin Nightmare !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good tutorial anyway.
That truck receive a big car hit..,
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So that is a S spec or GS disco why would you rebadge and say it’s a HSE
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬WTF
reasons...
1) to trick a fool like me into thinking its a high spec gem !
2) to trick webuyanycar into paying out loads for it... this clearly did not work as it was for sale on ebay
3) second hand tailgate from a HSE
4) were the G4's all badged as HSE ?
5) The HSE lettering was cheaper from Land Rover... could be true !
6) He wanted to impress the ladies at work...and as we know all the girls prefer a man with a HSE...
These are just a few of the reasons why somebody would do such a thing.......
powerfulukltd lol 😆
First thing, check your sanity.
That went long ago.... getting married...having 2 kids....buying a Smart car.... a D3 purchase would be the most sane thing i have done for a while !
@@L663 weird - I've done all those things, not in that order tho; mine was a 2001 Fortwo CDI diesel LHD, loved it!
I was disappointed with the ending.
What were you hoping for.... a happy ending !
powerfulukltd lmao
shed
a shed on wheels...
How is it possible to turn a car into such a garbage can??
I can see you are a mini fan.... maybe i could sneak a video of my old school mini to get you more excited....
Haven’t you got enough cars to be buying that old thing? 😂
Trying to push the TH-cam content at the moment... its a good way to grow the business and share stuff with people !
Just walk away from these massive moneypits. Dead cheap second hand says it all.
LOL "MASSIVE MONEY PITS" LOOOOO
That’s a bad replica because it’s diesel
yes not sure why petrol would be better offroad... all that water and sparks seems a bad idea
The Discos had the most unreliable engines in LR history, this POS is a money pit, even if you get it for free !
My TDV6 is on 200K miles...
LOL That one finished me off "POS is a money pit, even if you get it for free !" looooo
Haha all these faults, welcome Land Rover.
Terrible car !
Yes but with a little love could it be a really nice car....
@@L663 Agree
RUN.....RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN....GO BUY A GERMAN CAR
LOL