I know Homelander is a physical threat, but Sister Sage is the scariest mental threat in The Boys universe. It’s like trying to fight Lex Luthor and expecting to beat him because he’s just “a smart person” and not much of a physical threat.
@@balabanasiretiWell when Firecracker confronted Starlight for what she did to her, she made it her goal that the world will see for how much of a "b****" she is. Granted, Sister Sage did make it happen but deep down Firecracker wanted Starlight to slip up in any way and be exposed. Just not expecting to be beaten bad to the face lol.
One thing about Firecracker is she is actually not a very powerful supe. Her super power is lackluster, and she can't hold her own in a fight. She is all talk-no substance, which I guess is the point of her character.
So, in a way, she's more similar to Homelander than you imagine. The difference is that Homelander actually couldn't care if his reputation is destroyed because he doesn't know who could stop him.
@ahkafkhan4512 It's a stupid move in the long run. Especially if Starlight feels if she has nothing to lose. Imagine someone as powerful as Homelander but much smarter and actually trains herself to better control her superpowers.
@@Aurem15 yeah but they don’t know about the footage of it but it was edit inna way where she was forcing deep to do it with her and either way I said I thought they had it
I saw it as the exact opposite. Her whole ark is about controlling her powers, so to lose control and give in to rage is her failing to have a hold on her powers, just like Homelander.
That's how DJT shoulda dealt with FJB when FJB mentioned taking DJT behind the school gym. FJB is such a pervert, obviously he surrounded himself with them and other random Freaks!
You would think knowing you’re going up against the smartest person in the world would make you extremely cautious of being tricked, but clearly Annie isn’t that smart.
she saw firecracker as a chess piece. She didn't care if starlight was gonna kill her, so long as she revealed her violence. Then that's all that mattered to her.
@crapreact5989 Than everyone would see she' even worse than Homelander, because killing Firecracker would be a purely selfish act. We know she isn't, but the people are gonna think she is worse than him.
Ok but deadass all the stuff Starlight did doesn't compare to Firecracker being a pedo. Annie's PR teams sucks hard. They could've spun it anything Firecracker said. But punching back basically told the world "yea a nerve got struck. She's guilty".
It doesn’t matter what Annie did, Firecraker literally did something not only illegal but very publicly violated Annie and Hughie’s right to privacy. Medical records are legally meant to be kept secret, meaning Firecracker could only have gotten them illegally and then publicly exposed them.
@@deadpooldan9862First, let’s acknowledge how good the writing is that it makes us debate this. But second, what Annie did was clearly wrong, she lost control and let her emotions get the better of her which is the main message of the show: that people are easily manipulated by their emotions. It is never justifiable to initiate violence.
@@furrycow9263 Idk if that is what makes the writing good though. Starlight spent several seasons being one of the most reasonable people on the show and just went to beat the crap out of her because this time it struck a nerve. After Firecracker made her intentions clear to ruin Starlight. Literally all she had to do was nothing, but this is what set her off in a world where she was raped, supes are evil, mass murder is rampant. Her abortion set her off. I mean sure, but that was crazy to me.
Sister Sage's plan was exactly that. Maybe Firecracker didn't even expect Starlight to attack her like that, out of the blue, but inside, as she coughed up blood, she was certainly satisfied
Firecracker is sociopath. She dont know, because she been not reacting like that, so everyone else. I also think that Annie actualy can say truth about her. Shes try to do a thing with Homelander - she can try this with older dudes from jury to. Shes angry because when it out - its over for her. And for these guys to. To much problems for Voight, when 13 year old get a thing with elders...
@@shivamjha5578it was both of their plan. Firecracker relies more on her followers and cult of personality and now she can be seem as the victim by them.
I'm sure since Annie/Starlight started that horrible rumor about Firecracker, so many people have only think the worst about Firecracker and that just adds fuel to Firecracker's hatred towards Starlight
2:56 Sage saying ‘First pebble down the mountain’ ominously is one of the best moments IMO. Captured the mastermind energy beautifully. That’s something Palpatine or Professor Moriarty would say.
This hints how much stronger Butcher is getting. Butch absolutely destroyed Ezekiel without even noticing. The cancer may be heightening his powers, since he slowly seems to be getting stronger the closer he is to death.
@@blakehoward4436That’s what I’m leaning towards, I feel like it’s been communicating with him through a Voice that will keep him going..Becca. Also it seems to only come out when it’s Host AKA Butcher is in a Life threatening situation. If that’s all true, we’re in for a WILD RIDE this Season! 🤩
IF this actually happened, Starlight could sue Firecracker/Vought for all the money in the world. This is a giant HIPAA violation, its the reason why during the pandemic Professional Sports teams announced ## of PLAYERS tested positive for COVID instead of naming them.
@@gustavomonteirorodrigues3554Difference is they keep the murders covered up or spin the situation when possible. This is way too open to spin. But since Starlight best up Firecracker they have a lane to spin it now.
@@gustavomonteirorodrigues3554 I dunno Vought would still have to make a public apology maybe some money towards Annie’s way and maybe cut Firecracker from the 7. But that didn’t happen so well never know
Let's not forget the fact that in terms of Supes, Firecracker isn't even D grade. By all rights, she shouldn't be in the Seven. Her superpower is an actual party trick, and she's known more for being your average right wing Podcaster.
Predator Firecracker definately had it coming! She's so arrogant. One of the best scenes this season. Plus Becca is stunningly beautiful I'm glad she's still in visions and stuff!
Sage is so smart she knows exactly how to make someone else piss off Starlight just enough to make her lose it and beat Firecracker to a pulp on a nationally televised program but not pissed off enough to have her powers mess up the camera!!!!
Starlight didnt use her powers cause she wanted to punish firecracker with her fists in a personal way for revealing some personal information about her life
Vought has been filming Starlight constantly for a long time, they would have already had the equipment they needed, Sage just made sure it was in place.
Butcher and Starlight are a lot stronger than they think. They team up on Homelander and he's dead. She even learned she can fly just recently. Imagine what else she doesn't know.
Love how Firecracker thought she was coming over to debate her. Bullies always wanna cross the line, but often forget someone might just throw hands when you do that lol. (Edit: Yes I know Starlight bullied her, that doesn't mean Firecracker can't also be a bully. Also she's a grown ass woman and an actual p*do for that matter. Not sure we need to split hairs on this one.)
@@kidarachnid1649 Except that she didn't change at all. She still acts the same as she did when she was younger. You're just blinded because she's being shown in a positive light since she's with the main characters.
I am glad barbara mentioned homelanders birth in the same episode this happens. It s a reminder that starlight could have considered adoption but supe babies/infants/kids never had it easy. Some of them turned out like they do because they never fit in or have someone to guide them, the right person.
So about this, I thought originally we were told that compound V could only be given to babies in utero otherwise the subject stops living, but now the Senators daughter got it and Hughie’s father was given it. Am I misremembering or is that a retcon?
Starlights mastery in flight is getting better, soon she'll be able to manipulate different forms of light energy and convert it into stronger forms of energy...
Idk so far she is terrible person but didnt do anything that bad. Starlight murdered innocent man for a car who wanted to help them and than said she doesent regret it and spread rumors about a 13 year old to ruin her. I mean sorry but i dont like her.
@@OkrotnaGlistaWhat innocent man was this she killed? Sorry, I don't remember. Now that Firecracker remains angry because of something that happened in her childhood is completely understandable. It was really traumatic. But she has to see that Annie has changed. Hate her past, not who she is now.
2:49 Sister Sage watching the monitor looking like a Boss who is in total control of the situation. She probably thinking to herself, "This is too easy! I got this!"
@@seyumaiayami3536Insomniac Venom especially propably outscales. Its stated a hydrogen bomb can take out Soldier Boy and Homelander. And the writers said in interview that Homelander would need SOME time to destroy New York. Insomniac Venom scales to Large Town level atleast. Homelander is somewhere between Multi-City Block level(due to his father being bullet proof) and Small City level HL also said he would take out defensive systems if he went rogue. He cant actually survive being hit by a nuke straight to the face,maybe near the explosion. And they say the tried all weapons but nuclear bombs are an exception as they would kill millions Destroying a city OVER TIME isnt city level,not even close. Just saying he isnt even as strong as people think
When Sage said “first pebble down the mountain” was she implying that was the avalanche or rockslide that would it Vought or would cripple The Boys crusade to stop Vought?
Don't think so, probably just a metaphor Probably she's implying that there will be others to oppose them like Starlight, but they too will fail And Sage outsmarted The Boys in episode 2, and they're not really a threat rn lol
@CineGoodog A hardtime worthy crime. It's a safe bet that Sister Mara had manipulated and corrupted a few people in the attempt to have the perception that her hands appear clean.
I think she's secretly working for Stan: Think about, Stan Edgar was the only one who could anticipate Homelander's moves and figured that if Homelander owned Vought then he wouldn't know what to do and go to the only person smarter than Stan Edgar 🤔
@@taraungoogle8482No, do you remember that it was Homelander that came up to her asking for her to be in the 7? Stan Edgar would never rely on a one in a billion chance that homelander would hire her, he would probably try to put her in the seven directly like he did with stormfront But I'm pretty sure he has nothing to do with anything this season, he will show up next episode tho maybe testing V on animals
@@nicodiangelo6788 what would be a win for Stan? the character is pretty similar to Stillwell in the comics also keep in mind that the first comment that I made was when 4x04 was released, before the finale There's no victory for Stan anymore, homelander has taken over and to stop him will be crash course and Vought's reputation will be ruined forever Stan has a bad product in his hand, just like in the comics The only possible good thing Stan could still have is Zoe and retirement
Because she was just ignoring her being a bitch, but stealing her medical records and publishing THAT is going way too far and is beyond wrong. I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing
Because she felt guilty. This was crossing a line. It's like, you bully some kid in Middle School. And then they post about the time you got crabs online. Lol
Eh, I think Starlight will still have some supporters. I mean, Firecracker is a conspiracy-mongering, holocaust-denying, pedophilic bully. It would stretch the bounds of credulity to assume everyone would be on her side.
Looks the team is dealing with a lot issues right now. Butcher is dying Frenchie, Starlight, and Kimiko’s pasts return to haunt each of them. Hughie is dealing with family drama Only M.M doesn’t have his own issues to deal with. The team needs to band together to confront their issues with support.
It's actually funny. In that some people can't see that this is based on America today. America has plenty of issues. From racism, gun control, police brutality, and propagandist ideology. This show is perfect in highlighting it. If it makes some people uncomfortable and offended, good.
The problem is that it no longer is doing it with an ounce of subtlety or real intelligence. The “social commentary” of the first 3 episodes was, What if Homelander was DONALD TRUMP!?!? Woah, what a unique and interesting “plot”. A plot they don’t even really do anything with, just sorta say it. Then there is the abortion plot line. Calling it a plot line is a bit of a stretch though, since it came out of fucking nowhere with no build up or prior information. Why? Because the writers wanted Evil Bad firecracker to be the one saying abortion is a sin, and Super good morally correct Starlight to be the one to beat her up. The show has always been highly political and I liked that a lot…when it was balancing political commentary with an engaging story. But people are turning on season 4 because it has been a political message first, actual story second king of season, which is a shame.
@@WaxerRed-gm9fh ima break this shit down point by point Homelander has been fucking donald trump since season 2 his name is fucking homelander hes supposed to the ideal american his name literally is based off homeland security so trying to say they made him political all of a sudden is just a lie theyve been doing stuff with it for the entire show what else can they do but explain the hypocrisy in these evil and manipulative people its a theme not a fucking message hughie and starlight have been fucking since season 3 she stops being a christian in season 1 do you think they wouldnt as a long time couple have an absortion at some point??!?!? esp since they cant have kids considering their line of work also we just came back from a timeskip this is a show not a live stream its supposed to come as a suprise every supe in the entire fucking show has done bad things right before firecracker exposes her for this she also shames starlight for blinding a mother of 3 starlight isnt the MORAL POINT OF ABORTIN IS RIGHT she was mad that she exposed her on public television your obviously projecting that starlight and firecracker are on equal ground thats why she told them about ther pedohphilic shit shes trying to burn starlight at all costs because she did stuff to firecracker wouldnt they make it a baseless vendetta if starlight was the objective only moral right?!?!? story has always been going this way the tensions are rising which is why they have to play with the public alot more its also a theme that parodies real world shit if the show being political surprises you idk what youve been watching for the last 3 seasons last season a nazi tried to use internet memes to get people into becoming neo nazis in a means to create vaught super soldiers like i swear yall just be making stuff up
This is far too hamfisted compared to the previous seasons. You just don't notice it because they've been gradually ramping it up over time. The writers claim that they've always been making fun of only one camp, but the truth is that they've just gotten lazy. Even their poor attempt at a tongue-in-cheek depiction of Sage being a self-referential stereotypical angry black justice focused woman falls on deaf ears.
I disagree, I think the writing has been fantastic in season 4. People cry theres no "subtlety" anymore, but I think thats exactly the point. Far right americans arent subtle like they used to be, and they were never witty. The show is just reflecting how unashamed the far right has become.
@@official_Oscar on god im not even a political person but the way I see people not understand what makes homelander so dangerous as a leader as a metaphor for people like trump or other leaders who act like him is actually scary they just impose a person onto homelander and take everything he says with sincerity despite the fact that he sees literally everyone who follows as a means to an end its like how people praise abraham lincoln for freeing the slaves when he did it for his campaign not the moral reason I think alot of this is just coming from frenchie being gay and people wanting a reason to seem special cuz they dont like something that everyone else likes
Starlight finally beating Firecracker up was honestly one of the best moments in this season because it was so deserved And I love Firecracker's actress because she played her so well to the point i felt like throwing things around everytime she was on screen or when she opened her mouth because omg shes insufferable 😓
If anyone is wondering what’s inside Butcher here’s an idea. In the comics Hughie’s great aunt had a giant tapeworm inside her, so maybe the show runners will do something similar like that for Butcher.
So glad they didn’t do some bs conflict between annie and hughie over the abortion. I was scared hughie wasn’t going to know, and they would have a big fight or something
Firecracker gives off the biggest Marjorie Taylor Greene vibes. Watching Starlight beat the crap out of her Omni-Man style was the most satisfying thing on this show since Starlight, Kimiko and Maeve beat up Stormfront.
Honestly for Starlight, I feel that this wouldn't be as reputationally damaging if something like this played out in the real world. In the words of Kendrick, sometimes you gotta pop out and show mfers
It was an emotional response any mother would logically have: even though she aborted the baby, it still was a really though decision to make, and I get it, her and Hughie weren't ready and it wouldn't have been safe regardless, considering that they're always getting chased by someone. Starlight responded correctly, in my opinion, but sure, it wasn't the brightest of ideas
Sage is going to turn, I call it. Supes vs. Supes is going to draw DIMES. It’s all about wrestling, and Vought loves it. Don’t ever think Ashley would ever be in control. She wouldn’t even have any idea of the people making real decisions.
Considering how Annie's already making liberal use of her recently-found flight abilities, Starlight's power ceiling is definitely growing. In this episode, she's probably done more damage to another Supe compared to the previous seasons, and I think a huge part of that is just she's really holding back. I'm definitely expecting an MCU Wanda Maximoff power creep for her.
THEORY TIME: Butcher has a Parasite inside him that Attacks and Protects its host while also killing him slowly, after he took that CV 4 months ago, the V went into the Parasite instead of Butcher and now it acts as a Protection for Butcher in a Life Threatening situation. Also it might be communicating with him through Becca’s Voice and Form. What do you think? 🤔
Nah, it's pretty obvious now with episode 4 what happened Butcher had the V24 in his blood which gave him powers, but affected his brain long-term giving him the Tumor Then Butcher used normal V, and didn't get any powers but felt that his time was shortened ( probably because of the tumor getting stronger and having more effect on his body ) the Tumor has powers, not Butcher We still have to see if Becca and Kessler are part of Butcher's conscience or the Tumor manifesting himself Btw there is no way that they're a symbiote or similar to Venom, the Tumor is still fatal to Butcher and will probably kill him and maybe? leave his body once it's mature? idk Hopefully it's just Butcher going crazy, it would be very interesting to see a schizophrenic character in the show
Man, that' Dark to think about, Firecracker is a complete and utter tool to be toss aside at any moment in Sage' plan. She doesn't even have powers that would keep her in a secure position, like A-Train' speed force, or Xeep' diving ability, or Sage' intelligence, etc.
I feel like her self-lobotomy moments might hint at how she'll get taken down-- this is when she's at her most vulnerable & can't outsmart her way from a bad situation.
Theory: Billy's "tumor" has become sentient (much like in the diabolical series / the V'd cancer) and that gives him powers / visions. Same with Hughie - is his mum actually there? I doubt it, and I'm guessing she is a vision similar to the ones Butcher is having right now. Thoughts?
She wasn't smart enough to realize what Sister Sage was gonna do, she looked genuinely surprised when Starlight started beating her up like she was her personal plaything and legit thought she was there to debate her.
@@ChicagoScorpion yeah it sounded like the word the punch cut off was "debate" (or "the [something]") cause all reactionary figures know what to do is talk wild shit
Butcher's parasitic cancer became sentient and powerful after the dose of Compound V he took 4 months ago. Hence that was the thing, doing it's job. It's eating Butcher as well as keeping him alive at the same time
I love the one guy in chat that said it's totally staged. Fucking phenomenal attention to detail
one of them said "SL lived long enough to become the villain" LOL
He was right, Sage staged it!
@@shinymorganizard8762, they just like us fr
He’s not wrong tho
I suppose it is the one grift ol’ Firecracker wasn’t in on. Oo[s
Sister Sage really shot two birds with one stone destroyed Starlight's reputation and humbled Firecracker
but still the smartest person and the dumbest man "chacha"-ed
@@dildobeggins221the smartest woman had to literally lobotomize herself to find the dumbest man attractive.
Annie January **
what do you mean humbled?why?
I know Homelander is a physical threat, but Sister Sage is the scariest mental threat in The Boys universe. It’s like trying to fight Lex Luthor and expecting to beat him because he’s just “a smart person” and not much of a physical threat.
I can’t believe after all that Firecracker really thought Starlight showed up just to debate her 🤣😭
She kind of played it dumb a bit, she half expected for her to lose it and make herself look bad
@@memecliparchives2254 I'm pretty sure it's only Sage that knew what would happen
She expected screaming and yelling and name calling from her teenage bully Annie January, not a full on ass-whooping from Statlight
@@balabanasiretiWell when Firecracker confronted Starlight for what she did to her, she made it her goal that the world will see for how much of a "b****" she is.
Granted, Sister Sage did make it happen but deep down Firecracker wanted Starlight to slip up in any way and be exposed. Just not expecting to be beaten bad to the face lol.
"USE YOUR WORDS" 😂
One thing about Firecracker is she is actually not a very powerful supe. Her super power is lackluster, and she can't hold her own in a fight. She is all talk-no substance, which I guess is the point of her character.
So, in a way, she's more similar to Homelander than you imagine. The difference is that Homelander actually couldn't care if his reputation is destroyed because he doesn't know who could stop him.
I'll bet her real power is being a firecracker in the sack.
Nah,firecracker probably let starlight beat her up in this scene on purpose because she want's to ruin starlights reputation even more
@ahkafkhan4512 It's a stupid move in the long run. Especially if Starlight feels if she has nothing to lose. Imagine someone as powerful as Homelander but much smarter and actually trains herself to better control her superpowers.
"what are your powers?"
👩🏻🦰🤌🎇
When Firecracker told Buther and MM "f around and find out", I didn't think she was going to pull out Starlight's medical records 😭
Dude I thought she had a video of her and deep
That she only got because of sage like Lmao girl you’re still a child predator
I think FC screwing a 15 year old is even worse than the abortion…
@@kidarachnid1649but people already know about what deep did to her, Annie exposed him herself.
@@Aurem15 yeah but they don’t know about the footage of it but it was edit inna way where she was forcing deep to do it with her and either way I said I thought they had it
Lets appreciate how starlight had been fumbling while using her new powers until this point. She finally got a hold of it when firecracker angered her
Starlight
@@bensonabernathy4664 sorry,😅😅 thank you🤣🤣
she's actually developing...it's not that she was ever weak.
@@yulo2138 Also, I dont think fire cracker was putting on an act instead of fighting back to make annie look bad. She really is that weak
I saw it as the exact opposite. Her whole ark is about controlling her powers, so to lose control and give in to rage is her failing to have a hold on her powers, just like Homelander.
Starlight said “Debate these hands”
😂😂❤❤
she was really valid after that ngl 😂
That's how DJT shoulda dealt with FJB when FJB mentioned taking DJT behind the school gym. FJB is such a pervert, obviously he surrounded himself with them and other random Freaks!
Starlight: I thought you were stronger..
Nah the invincible referense 😂
firecracker just has a loud mouth is all
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Man, Sage knew that Starlight would eventually beat the shit of the Firecracker. This is why I love shows like these.
You would think knowing you’re going up against the smartest person in the world would make you extremely cautious of being tricked, but clearly Annie isn’t that smart.
It was the whole point of the plan. Get Starlight to destroy her own reputation in front of the whole world.
she saw firecracker as a chess piece. She didn't care if starlight was gonna kill her, so long as she revealed her violence. Then that's all that mattered to her.
@@furrycow9263It isn't about intelligence it's about Starlight losing her cool after very personal details of her life are being publicly exposed
@@J10005 Intelligent people have control over their emotions.
Gonna be honest Starlight not caving in Firecrackers skull was a very restrained response
Except she was going to do just that. MM stopped her.
@@vortex_1336he should have let her do it
@crapreact5989 Than everyone would see she' even worse than Homelander, because killing Firecracker would be a purely selfish act.
We know she isn't, but the people are gonna think she is worse than him.
So starlight exposing vought and stormfront is okay but exposing starlight means it’s cool to kill you? How very left-wing liberal of you, dipshit.
@@crapreact5989then she would lose followers
The comments on the live were so funny lol, love how most of them were actually on Starlight’s side… “Is it bad I like her more now?” bye😭
Ok but deadass all the stuff Starlight did doesn't compare to Firecracker being a pedo. Annie's PR teams sucks hard. They could've spun it anything Firecracker said. But punching back basically told the world "yea a nerve got struck. She's guilty".
Firecracker is a pedo? When did this get confirmed
It doesn’t matter what Annie did, Firecraker literally did something not only illegal but very publicly violated Annie and Hughie’s right to privacy. Medical records are legally meant to be kept secret, meaning Firecracker could only have gotten them illegally and then publicly exposed them.
@@deadpooldan9862First, let’s acknowledge how good the writing is that it makes us debate this. But second, what Annie did was clearly wrong, she lost control and let her emotions get the better of her which is the main message of the show: that people are easily manipulated by their emotions. It is never justifiable to initiate violence.
^this
@@furrycow9263 Idk if that is what makes the writing good though. Starlight spent several seasons being one of the most reasonable people on the show and just went to beat the crap out of her because this time it struck a nerve. After Firecracker made her intentions clear to ruin Starlight. Literally all she had to do was nothing, but this is what set her off in a world where she was raped, supes are evil, mass murder is rampant. Her abortion set her off. I mean sure, but that was crazy to me.
Sister Sage's plan was exactly that. Maybe Firecracker didn't even expect Starlight to attack her like that, out of the blue, but inside, as she coughed up blood, she was certainly satisfied
Firecracker is sociopath. She dont know, because she been not reacting like that, so everyone else.
I also think that Annie actualy can say truth about her. Shes try to do a thing with Homelander - she can try this with older dudes from jury to.
Shes angry because when it out - its over for her. And for these guys to. To much problems for Voight, when 13 year old get a thing with elders...
Sage knew what she was doing. It was a win win.
This was definitely one of, if not THE most satisfying part of the season. Even Sister Sage was rooting against Firecracker
Sage initiated for this to happen
Nah this was actually Sage's plan
This was Sage's plan, she only got Firecracker in the seven for this
@@shivamjha5578it was both of their plan. Firecracker relies more on her followers and cult of personality and now she can be seem as the victim by them.
Y’all don’t understand. Ofc it was Sage’s plan but it’s pretty clear that she hates Firecracker so this was quite cathartic for her
Love how firecracker threatens MM and Butcher but she straight up goes after Annie's medical records 💀💀
I'm sure since Annie/Starlight started that horrible rumor about Firecracker, so many people have only think the worst about Firecracker and that just adds fuel to Firecracker's hatred towards Starlight
@@taraungoogle8482 Don't care, she's petty
@@taraungoogle8482 Still doesn't justify her reckless actions.
3:13 No wonder Butcher as so incredibly full of rage when Becca went missing, she's gorgeous
she is his sister , i mean was
He was sad Becca left. He was furious that it's because Homelander raped her.
Watch the masterpiece that is For All Mankind if you want more of the actress. :)
@@SirsasthNigam. Becca was his wife tf
@@SirsasthNigam. What version of this show are you watching? 🤣
2:56 Sage saying ‘First pebble down the mountain’ ominously is one of the best moments IMO. Captured the mastermind energy beautifully. That’s something Palpatine or Professor Moriarty would say.
This hints how much stronger Butcher is getting. Butch absolutely destroyed Ezekiel without even noticing. The cancer may be heightening his powers, since he slowly seems to be getting stronger the closer he is to death.
yeah nothing to do with the parasite controling him lol
@@spudnic5849 That’s what I’m referring to, it’s what is making him stronger
Is the parasite in Butcher similar to the venom-symbiote?
@@blakehoward4436That’s what I’m leaning towards, I feel like it’s been communicating with him through a Voice that will keep him going..Becca. Also it seems to only come out when it’s Host AKA Butcher is in a Life threatening situation. If that’s all true, we’re in for a WILD RIDE this Season! 🤩
@@dangerousdictionaryjr oh, you said the cancer! The cancer and parasite are 2 seperate things.
IF this actually happened, Starlight could sue Firecracker/Vought for all the money in the world. This is a giant HIPAA violation, its the reason why during the pandemic Professional Sports teams announced ## of PLAYERS tested positive for COVID instead of naming them.
If they can get away with murder, then this is nothing to vought
@@gustavomonteirorodrigues3554Difference is they keep the murders covered up or spin the situation when possible. This is way too open to spin. But since Starlight best up Firecracker they have a lane to spin it now.
@@J10005 Never doubt the capacity of an army of lawyers to spin something, and there's the Bribery and conections that any megacorp is capable of.
@@gustavomonteirorodrigues3554
I dunno Vought would still have to make a public apology maybe some money towards Annie’s way and maybe cut Firecracker from the 7. But that didn’t happen so well never know
They've been fighting lawsuits since the Civil Rights movement. Lol
Let's not forget the fact that in terms of Supes, Firecracker isn't even D grade. By all rights, she shouldn't be in the Seven. Her superpower is an actual party trick, and she's known more for being your average right wing Podcaster.
Definitely not the average right winger more on the extreme end
@@angryanakin pretty average right winger
So like most right-wing podcasters: Not actually good at anything beyond being a right-wing podcaster.
A right-wing podcaster that acts like a left-wing podcaster.
Frenchie made that "wtf" face without saying it lmao.
Le ftw
@@falconeshield le?
@@fhsh531 French
Predator Firecracker definately had it coming! She's so arrogant. One of the best scenes this season. Plus Becca is stunningly beautiful I'm glad she's still in visions and stuff!
violence is never the answer
Becca is more like girl next door... That nazi btch was way better looking
@@kos9694
It is a question and the answer is yes
@@OkrotnaGlista True, it surely made things worse for Starlight's reputation.
Sage is so smart she knows exactly how to make someone else piss off Starlight just enough to make her lose it and beat Firecracker to a pulp on a nationally televised program but not pissed off enough to have her powers mess up the camera!!!!
That’s actually a great point that I hadn’t even considered. Starlight should have destroyed all of the camera equipment.
Only plot armor protected the cameras! Previously she always drained all the power in the surrounding.
Starlight didnt use her powers cause she wanted to punish firecracker with her fists in a personal way for revealing some personal information about her life
Vought has been filming Starlight constantly for a long time, they would have already had the equipment they needed, Sage just made sure it was in place.
Annie January gave Firecracker a 4th of July asswhupping.
Damn right. She heard enough from her talking shit.
Every time Billy says “Oi” shit goes down 💀
Someone edit "Not like Us" over Annie beating the crap out of Firecracker.
Starlight really put the hands on Firecracker 🤣.
I still have a crush on her tho
@@d.c.741 which one tho
@@dangerousdictionaryjr Firecracker, OBVIOUSLY
@@d.c.741 I see 😅
@@dangerousdictionaryjr yup
Really shows you how strong starlight can be
There's a chance that Homelander is going to find out.
I wonder if Starlight could go into a nuclear power station and absorb all that power just like Kevin Bacon's character in X-Men First Class.
@Uouttooo She could very well learn to harness sunlight, which could mean almost infinite power that nor even Homelander could comprehend.
Butcher and Starlight are a lot stronger than they think. They team up on Homelander and he's dead. She even learned she can fly just recently. Imagine what else she doesn't know.
Love how Firecracker thought she was coming over to debate her. Bullies always wanna cross the line, but often forget someone might just throw hands when you do that lol.
(Edit: Yes I know Starlight bullied her, that doesn't mean Firecracker can't also be a bully. Also she's a grown ass woman and an actual p*do for that matter. Not sure we need to split hairs on this one.)
Wow u sure didn't watch the show huh.Starlight was the bully,firecracker was just getting her payback
And tyrants would beat anyone exposing them.
@@ahkafkhan4512yeah but she said she’s changed (which is true) I was honestly shocked when firecracker said what did to her a long time ago
@@kidarachnid1649 Except that she didn't change at all. She still acts the same as she did when she was younger. You're just blinded because she's being shown in a positive light since she's with the main characters.
Starlight is literally the bully and she’s showing you that she hasn’t changed at all but you somehow think she’s the victim lol
I am glad barbara mentioned homelanders birth in the same episode this happens. It s a reminder that starlight could have considered adoption but supe babies/infants/kids never had it easy. Some of them turned out like they do because they never fit in or have someone to guide them, the right person.
You forget that most of those kids killed their parents during gestation.
So about this, I thought originally we were told that compound V could only be given to babies in utero otherwise the subject stops living, but now the Senators daughter got it and Hughie’s father was given it. Am I misremembering or is that a retcon?
@@furrycow9263I remember them just hinting a "high probability" of dying but yeah still convenient af.
@@patterofheads256 But annie is a supe unlike becca.
Also the fact that natural born supe kids literally kill their mothers during birth. Ryan was an exception rather than the norm
"You wanna see what a real murder looks like?"
Starlights mastery in flight is getting better, soon she'll be able to manipulate different forms of light energy and convert it into stronger forms of energy...
If only Firecracker got more than just this beating
Like losing everything!!!
She will. Just like Stormfront lost everything. Question is a matter of when.
Power wise she is very weak and has no business being in the seven tho, it's understandable.
@@kawaiikoto8800 She's only in the seven to be used for one thing: her big ass mouth. And that's where starlight popped her. 💅
Idk so far she is terrible person but didnt do anything that bad. Starlight murdered innocent man for a car who wanted to help them and than said she doesent regret it and spread rumors about a 13 year old to ruin her. I mean sorry but i dont like her.
@@OkrotnaGlistaWhat innocent man was this she killed? Sorry, I don't remember. Now that Firecracker remains angry because of something that happened in her childhood is completely understandable. It was really traumatic. But she has to see that Annie has changed. Hate her past, not who she is now.
Nobody spits out other people's personal information like that! Get her, Starlight!
murdering your child isn't personal information its murder
@@mikeymittens777It's a personal decision and nobody else's business. Shut up
@@mikeymittens777she didn’t murder a child she and her boyfriend mutually decided to terminate a 6 week old fetus
Annie just went full Butcher mode!
Annie is NOT okay
About time she did something productive.
Could you blame her!?
@@patterofheads256 she saved hughie in season 1 as an example
That wasn't even a showdown, that was a beatdown.
In union we all say, she had every right.
True and it’s actually a bit understandable why she did it, you got to your breaking point where your actions scream louder than thought
But did she actually abort the baby or not?
Scene shocked me. Starlight went apeshit on her. Never expected her to blow up like this.
2:49 Sister Sage watching the monitor looking like a Boss who is in total control of the situation. She probably thinking to herself, "This is too easy! I got this!"
“Get up! Billy, c’mon get up!”
We….
“C’mon. Billy!”
Are….
“You don’t get to quit. Get up!”
VENOM!
Funny enough Venom could take on most of these supes lmao
@@seyumaiayami3536Insomniac Venom especially propably outscales.
Its stated a hydrogen bomb can take out Soldier Boy and Homelander.
And the writers said in interview that Homelander would need SOME time to destroy New York.
Insomniac Venom scales to Large Town level atleast.
Homelander is somewhere between Multi-City Block level(due to his father being bullet proof) and Small City level
HL also said he would take out defensive systems if he went rogue.
He cant actually survive being hit by a nuke straight to the face,maybe near the explosion.
And they say the tried all weapons but nuclear bombs are an exception as they would kill millions
Destroying a city OVER TIME isnt city level,not even close.
Just saying he isnt even as strong as people think
chrissy wake up i dont like this
4:11 @@seyumaiayami3536They could assimilate Homelander. If it survived his heat vision or sonic scream.
Light ‘em up, Starlight.
This was SO satisfying.
I just wish that Starlight's people did more with the reveal of Firecracker being a molester.
is abortion satisfying ?
Tbh I don't consider Firecracker THAT bad
Her being a pedo was sh*tty writing btw
@@d.c.741 ????
She got so little of what her, and people like her, deserve
Yay but now we get to see firecracker get beaten up to a pulp soon enough... again!
Still girlfriend material
When Sage said “first pebble down the mountain” was she implying that was the avalanche or rockslide that would it Vought or would cripple The Boys crusade to stop Vought?
Don't think so, probably just a metaphor
Probably she's implying that there will be others to oppose them like Starlight, but they too will fail
And Sage outsmarted The Boys in episode 2, and they're not really a threat rn lol
When she said "Baby Killer! 1:18 " Starlight was cooked 😂😂
exposing medical records ?
thats unforgivable
this is actually a crime.
Not my dental records!
@CineGoodog A hardtime worthy crime. It's a safe bet that Sister Mara had manipulated and corrupted a few people in the attempt to have the perception that her hands appear clean.
@@CineGoodogDidn't know that lol
1:55 can't unsee that look
Dr nefario type face 😂😂😂
@@macewindu789 I CAME TO GOON 🗣🗣 🗣 4 10 THE BISCUIT LOOSE
Starlight got rage-baited & became a firecracker herself. Sage played everyone like a fiddle & Stan Edgar would approve
I think she's secretly working for Stan: Think about, Stan Edgar was the only one who could anticipate Homelander's moves and figured that if Homelander owned Vought then he wouldn't know what to do and go to the only person smarter than Stan Edgar 🤔
@@taraungoogle8482No, do you remember that it was Homelander that came up to her asking for her to be in the 7?
Stan Edgar would never rely on a one in a billion chance that homelander would hire her, he would probably try to put her in the seven directly like he did with stormfront
But I'm pretty sure he has nothing to do with anything this season, he will show up next episode tho maybe testing V on animals
@@VerdadesObscurasTTi mean stan seems smart enough to set up enough paths for himself to win so that when one closes, he still has 5 more to try
@@nicodiangelo6788 what would be a win for Stan? the character is pretty similar to Stillwell in the comics
also keep in mind that the first comment that I made was when 4x04 was released, before the finale
There's no victory for Stan anymore, homelander has taken over and to stop him will be crash course and Vought's reputation will be ruined forever
Stan has a bad product in his hand, just like in the comics
The only possible good thing Stan could still have is Zoe and retirement
Surprised she didn’t do it earlier
Because she was just ignoring her being a bitch, but stealing her medical records and publishing THAT is going way too far and is beyond wrong. I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing
Because she felt guilty.
This was crossing a line.
It's like, you bully some kid in Middle School.
And then they post about the time you got crabs online. Lol
@GangstaStan010 What "crab" means?
Erin Moriarty when another person talks about her surgery
What if this scene is portrayal of haters of Erin surgery?
@@Richieharrison8347truly meta
Now everyone is gonna turn their back on starlight…..feel bad for her honestly
Except the boys. They are her only family right now.
@@tevinngeleshi9297true dat
Eh, I think Starlight will still have some supporters. I mean, Firecracker is a conspiracy-mongering, holocaust-denying, pedophilic bully. It would stretch the bounds of credulity to assume everyone would be on her side.
Looks the team is dealing with a lot issues right now.
Butcher is dying
Frenchie, Starlight, and Kimiko’s pasts return to haunt each of them.
Hughie is dealing with family drama
Only M.M doesn’t have his own issues to deal with.
The team needs to band together to confront their issues with support.
@@sd_justice_duty9564 MM is getting distant from his child - in the first ep of s4 he ignores her phone call
It's actually funny. In that some people can't see that this is based on America today. America has plenty of issues. From racism, gun control, police brutality, and propagandist ideology. This show is perfect in highlighting it. If it makes some people uncomfortable and offended, good.
The problem is that it no longer is doing it with an ounce of subtlety or real intelligence.
The “social commentary” of the first 3 episodes was, What if Homelander was DONALD TRUMP!?!?
Woah, what a unique and interesting “plot”. A plot they don’t even really do anything with, just sorta say it.
Then there is the abortion plot line. Calling it a plot line is a bit of a stretch though, since it came out of fucking nowhere with no build up or prior information.
Why? Because the writers wanted Evil Bad firecracker to be the one saying abortion is a sin, and Super good morally correct Starlight to be the one to beat her up.
The show has always been highly political and I liked that a lot…when it was balancing political commentary with an engaging story.
But people are turning on season 4 because it has been a political message first, actual story second king of season, which is a shame.
@@WaxerRed-gm9fh ima break this shit down point by point
Homelander has been fucking donald trump since season 2 his name is fucking homelander hes supposed to the ideal american his name literally is based off homeland security so trying to say they made him political all of a sudden is just a lie
theyve been doing stuff with it for the entire show what else can they do but explain the hypocrisy in these evil and manipulative people its a theme not a fucking message
hughie and starlight have been fucking since season 3 she stops being a christian in season 1 do you think they wouldnt as a long time couple have an absortion at some point??!?!? esp since they cant have kids considering their line of work also we just came back from a timeskip this is a show not a live stream its supposed to come as a suprise
every supe in the entire fucking show has done bad things right before firecracker exposes her for this she also shames starlight for blinding a mother of 3 starlight isnt the MORAL POINT OF ABORTIN IS RIGHT she was mad that she exposed her on public television your obviously projecting that starlight and firecracker are on equal ground thats why she told them about ther pedohphilic shit shes trying to burn starlight at all costs because she did stuff to firecracker wouldnt they make it a baseless vendetta if starlight was the objective only moral right?!?!?
story has always been going this way the tensions are rising which is why they have to play with the public alot more its also a theme that parodies real world shit if the show being political surprises you idk what youve been watching for the last 3 seasons last season a nazi tried to use internet memes to get people into becoming neo nazis in a means to create vaught super soldiers like i swear yall just be making stuff up
This is far too hamfisted compared to the previous seasons. You just don't notice it because they've been gradually ramping it up over time.
The writers claim that they've always been making fun of only one camp, but the truth is that they've just gotten lazy. Even their poor attempt at a tongue-in-cheek depiction of Sage being a self-referential stereotypical angry black justice focused woman falls on deaf ears.
I disagree, I think the writing has been fantastic in season 4. People cry theres no "subtlety" anymore, but I think thats exactly the point. Far right americans arent subtle like they used to be, and they were never witty. The show is just reflecting how unashamed the far right has become.
@@official_Oscar on god im not even a political person but the way I see people not understand what makes homelander so dangerous as a leader as a metaphor for people like trump or other leaders who act like him is actually scary they just impose a person onto homelander and take everything he says with sincerity despite the fact that he sees literally everyone who follows as a means to an end its like how people praise abraham lincoln for freeing the slaves when he did it for his campaign not the moral reason I think alot of this is just coming from frenchie being gay and people wanting a reason to seem special cuz they dont like something that everyone else likes
Starlight finally beating Firecracker up was honestly one of the best moments in this season because it was so deserved
And I love Firecracker's actress because she played her so well to the point i felt like throwing things around everytime she was on screen or when she opened her mouth because omg shes insufferable 😓
Starlight going Omni-Man while Butcher goes Venom
1:11 I'm pretty sure that is a serious HIIPAA violation.
Starlight: I thought you were made of sterner stuff.
Ezekiel’s screaming when Billy froze his hand off was the funniest shit.
His death was really sad though. Who is gonna tell religious people about his "bro" Jesus with him gone?
This episode seemed to be about the past and traumas
I completely get and understand why starlight did that number to fires face.
It sucks the people watching it live are siding with firecracker even after revealing alot of private secrets
@@brandr7964 👍
Starlight:I thought... i thought you were stronger
If anyone is wondering what’s inside Butcher here’s an idea. In the comics Hughie’s great aunt had a giant tapeworm inside her, so maybe the show runners will do something similar like that for Butcher.
she went beast mode
3:00 paul.$hepski is kinda real for that one
One of the most satysfying scenes to watch
0:13 favorite line from this scene
Tarzaned is literally firecracker in the dantes situation rn
"So you finally came to deba-" *John Cena music*
So glad they didn’t do some bs conflict between annie and hughie over the abortion. I was scared hughie wasn’t going to know, and they would have a big fight or something
Hugie must talk with her and the team about his attempt to give compound v to save his dad.
I believe they were part of a fake abortion
Most satisfying scene in the entire show
Starlight was inspired by Omniman to take down and responds like she did to Mark!
Firecracker gives off the biggest Marjorie Taylor Greene vibes. Watching Starlight beat the crap out of her Omni-Man style was the most satisfying thing on this show since Starlight, Kimiko and Maeve beat up Stormfront.
Honestly for Starlight, I feel that this wouldn't be as reputationally damaging if something like this played out in the real world. In the words of Kendrick, sometimes you gotta pop out and show mfers
crazy how firecracker's face is still less mangled than starlights after this
I think when nobody would stoped her,Starlight would have brutaly killed Firecracker full of Rage
Beating up Firecracker was not one of Starlight's brightest ideas.
But it was satisfying to watch ;)
Well, given the context of the universe of the Boys and simple logic, it’s understandable why
It was an emotional response any mother would logically have: even though she aborted the baby, it still was a really though decision to make, and I get it, her and Hughie weren't ready and it wouldn't have been safe regardless, considering that they're always getting chased by someone. Starlight responded correctly, in my opinion, but sure, it wasn't the brightest of ideas
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. "BRIGHTest idea" because she can... nevermind
@@Orion8795dont worry, I got the pun
You know it's over when Butcher be pulling up that ''Oi''
Guess that what happens when you piss starlight off
Nothing
Firecracker violated StarLight’s HIPPA rights. FireCracker had it coming.
Sage is going to turn, I call it. Supes vs. Supes is going to draw DIMES. It’s all about wrestling, and Vought loves it. Don’t ever think Ashley would ever be in control. She wouldn’t even have any idea of the people making real decisions.
Considering how Annie's already making liberal use of her recently-found flight abilities, Starlight's power ceiling is definitely growing. In this episode, she's probably done more damage to another Supe compared to the previous seasons, and I think a huge part of that is just she's really holding back. I'm definitely expecting an MCU Wanda Maximoff power creep for her.
2:44 What are her rings made of? They didn’t even wrinkle after such blows))
Annie’s best scene in the season so far. Not that there’s many to choose from. I miss the season 1-3 annie
Whoop that Trick!!! Shoulda been playin in the background 😂
Hughie: both choose the abortion 😢
Me: Off course 😂
THEORY TIME: Butcher has a Parasite inside him that Attacks and Protects its host while also killing him slowly, after he took that CV 4 months ago, the V went into the Parasite instead of Butcher and now it acts as a Protection for Butcher in a Life Threatening situation. Also it might be communicating with him through Becca’s Voice and Form. What do you think? 🤔
Woah
Reference to the boys diabolical Series
Nah, it's pretty obvious now with episode 4 what happened
Butcher had the V24 in his blood which gave him powers, but affected his brain long-term giving him the Tumor
Then Butcher used normal V, and didn't get any powers but felt that his time was shortened ( probably because of the tumor getting stronger and having more effect on his body ) the Tumor has powers, not Butcher
We still have to see if Becca and Kessler are part of Butcher's conscience or the Tumor manifesting himself
Btw there is no way that they're a symbiote or similar to Venom, the Tumor is still fatal to Butcher and will probably kill him and maybe? leave his body once it's mature? idk
Hopefully it's just Butcher going crazy, it would be very interesting to see a schizophrenic character in the show
hes venom and moon knight now
Miss light knocked the lights out of fire cracker! Nice!
"How's that for uppity, Cracker" Bro sister sage is so funny i love her so bad 😭
Butcher for sure got power or something like venom This is my expectation 3:25
Ok if u seen the finale it’s like venom but it’s a parasite in him I think so it’s like venom but venom doesn’t like being called a parasite
If Firecracker hadn't talked shit about Starlight, then she wouldn't have beaten her to a Pulp.
I honestly thought when sister sage showed the photo to her before the reveal I thought she had security footage of her and deep for ep1
Firecracker got what she deserved.
Sage is jokes. Talk about having the last laugh. 😂😂
Don't worry mate..... She'll get her's!!
the title is wrong, it should say, ¨Starlight beats the shi# out of firecracker¨
I feel like Sage is the brain of this chess game. He would make Fireckracker a martyr to his plan.
maybe, but rememeber Homlader can get her out of the chess board with one move at any moment.
Man, that' Dark to think about, Firecracker is a complete and utter tool to be toss aside at any moment in Sage' plan.
She doesn't even have powers that would keep her in a secure position, like A-Train' speed force, or Xeep' diving ability, or Sage' intelligence, etc.
She & her
I feel like her self-lobotomy moments might hint at how she'll get taken down-- this is when she's at her most vulnerable & can't outsmart her way from a bad situation.
@@Janexcalibur maybe, nice input Elektra.
Theory: Billy's "tumor" has become sentient (much like in the diabolical series / the V'd cancer) and that gives him powers / visions. Same with Hughie - is his mum actually there? I doubt it, and I'm guessing she is a vision similar to the ones Butcher is having right now.
Thoughts?
Absolutely loved this episode you guys did an absolute amazing job with the visual effects and story telling love it and I’m so thankful for this.
No way butcher pulled a moon knight at the end😂
Firecracker deliberately didn't fight back - there was a broadcast going on the whole time
she's known to be quite weak, even in supe terms anyways, not much she could do.
I think the first commentator got it right. Right wingers LOVE to provoke the pretend to be the victim. This is gonna hurt Starlight.
She wasn't smart enough to realize what Sister Sage was gonna do, she looked genuinely surprised when Starlight started beating her up like she was her personal plaything and legit thought she was there to debate her.
@@ChicagoScorpion yeah it sounded like the word the punch cut off was "debate" (or "the [something]") cause all reactionary figures know what to do is talk wild shit
She's a joke of a supe, Her powers are just little sparks
That's why she has a fringe podcast instead of any actual important stuff
Butcher's parasitic cancer became sentient and powerful after the dose of Compound V he took 4 months ago. Hence that was the thing, doing it's job. It's eating Butcher as well as keeping him alive at the same time
So it became a symbiote.
@@im_aleeyvenom, to be exact
Firecracker deserved that! 👌
She did 💯