Great video. I build with green lumber right off of the mill all of the time and you are right on all those points. I like being able to saw whatever material that I need as I need it.
Thanks for the confirmation, I could find very little information. It's nice to know someone else has had the same results. Good luck with your builds!
i build boat, if you use green wood for boats the boat must never leave the water...here in the winter when they are out its the snow doing the job. =)
The boards curled upwards because you're putting them down the wrong way. The grain should be curling upward, like a U. The board wants to straighten out the grain as it dries, so that's why one center nail would be sufficient.
But wouldn’t that only apply with a board and bat set up? Mail would hold the center, bats would keep the edges from curling up. In his set up the mail in the center should hold the crown down and not allow the edges to push the board up? Just my thought
Very interesting, I wish the commercial "kiln dried" stuff the Homeless Despot sells would be as stable as your green boards. Thanks for sharing. Craig
I'm currently building a 12-4 dining room table 8 ft x 42 inches green with a mortise and tenon legs into top construction. Putting a threaded steel rod through the two matchbook slabs to keep them pulled together and adjustable as the wood cures. It would take 3 years for the 12-4 to cure. This way, I can have a beautiful table that I can actually use and admire, then in three years or so, I can finish it to perfection. Everyone has opinions on what you should do with green lumber, if you mill it yourself just give it a go! Its how people did many decades ago......
You are welcome. I haven't had a lot of activity on this video. I guess there aren't a lot of people using green lumber. Thank you for letting me know that it was helpful!
No, still in great condition. It wasn't dried prior to putting it down so it has some gaps between the boards but it's a barn floor so that's no problem.
We're building our cabin with green lumber and so far no problems. They didn't have demintional or kiln dried lumber back in the day and those houses are still standing.
Very confusing. Other sites say "bark side down get a crown" for decking" exactly opposite of you suggestions ! Also if the decking is smiling...so will you and if it is frowning...so will you. Wish someone would get this straight. I guess trial and error.
I had the same experience trying to find information, that's why I made the video to show my experience. This worked great for me as you can see in the video. Good luck with your projects.
When I do barn siding I put the bark side inside. Wood shrinks more Tangentially than radially. I have found wood to cup toward the outside of the tree. I would have done opposite of the video but he has a lot of shading vs a barn that gets lots of sun potentially. It depends on how the board was sawn. If its quarter sawn it will shrink less and more even than if its plane sawn.
I saw a video where a guy seals the ends of the boards with a 50/50 mix of elmers glue and water. Then puts linseed oil on the surfaces. His theory is that allows it to dry slower and not split and crack.. have you ever tried this or heard of it?
I used to paint the ends when they were green to keep them from cracking. I just used paint. I think it did help some but I don't get a lot of splitting when I don't seal the ends so I quit doing it. I think what you mentioned would work but as you saw in the video I had good results without any sealing at all so I don't. Thanks for the comment and for watching my video!
Love the video! I’m looking to start building with green sawmilled lumber here shortly. Did you use anchor seal? Or do you know if that would have helped with the splits?
I didn't use anything type of sealer, just cut them and nailed them down. I even quite sealing the ends of the logs before I cut them. It was a hassle and I found the splitting was not much different and since the ends aren't straight I always cut that part off. Good luck with your projects!
@@SoatMon so its safe to say using green lumber is ok, im planning on building a 9 post 30 inch tall deck out of uncut logs except offcourse its cut to be 2 feet tall..but i mean im keeping the log whole for that rustic look...how do i prevent wood rot?
Board orientation is the thing, its a myth to just nail in the center, for example I built a1500 sq ft deck around house from 1x6 pt purchased from HD, soaking wet, thru and thru, butted boards together all around by using 3 nails per joist. As they dried, end butts no gaps, side butts shrunk to proper 1/4 inch gaps, absolutely no cracks, not one.. Thats because the wood is shrinking on all sides of the nail, not just from the center out.
Great video. I build with green lumber right off of the mill all of the time and you are right on all those points. I like being able to saw whatever material that I need as I need it.
Thanks for the confirmation, I could find very little information. It's nice to know someone else has had the same results. Good luck with your builds!
i build boat, if you use green wood for boats the boat must never leave the water...here in the winter when they are out its the snow doing the job. =)
The boards curled upwards because you're putting them down the wrong way. The grain should be curling upward, like a U. The board wants to straighten out the grain as it dries, so that's why one center nail would be sufficient.
But wouldn’t that only apply with a board and bat set up? Mail would hold the center, bats would keep the edges from curling up. In his set up the mail in the center should hold the crown down and not allow the edges to push the board up? Just my thought
Thanks for the information. All your videos are full of great information.
Your welcome. Thank you for your kind words. Thanks for watching!
Very interesting, I wish the commercial "kiln dried" stuff the Homeless Despot sells would be as stable as your green boards. Thanks for sharing. Craig
Your welcome. Thanks for watching!
well i think you can biild anythingout of green lumber.
as lons as it is the correct lumber species and the correct dimensions.
I'm currently building a 12-4 dining room table 8 ft x 42 inches green with a mortise and tenon legs into top construction. Putting a threaded steel rod through the two matchbook slabs to keep them pulled together and adjustable as the wood cures. It would take 3 years for the 12-4 to cure. This way, I can have a beautiful table that I can actually use and admire, then in three years or so, I can finish it to perfection. Everyone has opinions on what you should do with green lumber, if you mill it yourself just give it a go! Its how people did many decades ago......
I love it ,thanks so much...Perfect for barn work...
You are so welcome!
That was very helpful. Thank you!
You are welcome. I haven't had a lot of activity on this video. I guess there aren't a lot of people using green lumber. Thank you for letting me know that it was helpful!
Great video, subscribed!
Jurgen, Sweden.
Thanks!
Great information , If you were doing a wall, you could cover gaps with 2-inch strips. ThANKS
Your welcome. Thanks for your comment!
Bark side down for a crown. Yours is upside down. That's why it's doin what it's doin. 👍🏻
So 5 years….. how’s the deck holding up and have you learned anything that would make you change the way you built this?
No, still in great condition. It wasn't dried prior to putting it down so it has some gaps between the boards but it's a barn floor so that's no problem.
We're building our cabin with green lumber and so far no problems. They didn't have demintional or kiln dried lumber back in the day and those houses are still standing.
This floor is still going strong with no changes since the initial drying.
That's a good looking floor to me. I'd enjoy the heck out of that.
Thanks!
2x
What kind of wood did you use?
Southern yellow pine
Thanks for sharing!
You bet!
Do you think glue would have helped? By the way, it still looks good
The boards would shrink anyway, it's just the nature of the wood.
What is the lumber used?
Southern Yellow Pine
Thanks, there really isn’t a whole lot of info on using green lumber
I couldn't find much either
Thank you for the insight!
You're welcome!
good experiment, and interesting as well.
Thanks Glenn!
Very confusing. Other sites say "bark side down get a crown" for decking" exactly opposite of you suggestions ! Also if the decking is smiling...so will you and if it is frowning...so will you. Wish someone would get this straight. I guess trial and error.
I had the same experience trying to find information, that's why I made the video to show my experience. This worked great for me as you can see in the video. Good luck with your projects.
When I do barn siding I put the bark side inside. Wood shrinks more Tangentially than radially. I have found wood to cup toward the outside of the tree. I would have done opposite of the video but he has a lot of shading vs a barn that gets lots of sun potentially. It depends on how the board was sawn. If its quarter sawn it will shrink less and more even than if its plane sawn.
@@selfsufficientlifestyle8686,.................Thank you for taking time to reply. Most authors seem to agree with you !
@@SoatMon ......Thank you.
@@SoatMon ...........Glad that it worked for you, thanks.
I saw a video where a guy seals the ends of the boards with a 50/50 mix of elmers glue and water. Then puts linseed oil on the surfaces. His theory is that allows it to dry slower and not split and crack.. have you ever tried this or heard of it?
I used to paint the ends when they were green to keep them from cracking. I just used paint. I think it did help some but I don't get a lot of splitting when I don't seal the ends so I quit doing it. I think what you mentioned would work but as you saw in the video I had good results without any sealing at all so I don't. Thanks for the comment and for watching my video!
Love the video! I’m looking to start building with green sawmilled lumber here shortly. Did you use anchor seal? Or do you know if that would have helped with the splits?
I didn't use anything type of sealer, just cut them and nailed them down. I even quite sealing the ends of the logs before I cut them. It was a hassle and I found the splitting was not much different and since the ends aren't straight I always cut that part off. Good luck with your projects!
@@SoatMon so its safe to say using green lumber is ok, im planning on building a 9 post 30 inch tall deck out of uncut logs except offcourse its cut to be 2 feet tall..but i mean im keeping the log whole for that rustic look...how do i prevent wood rot?
Hammer the ends of the boards.
Interesting
Thanks for watching!
What kind of wood?
It's yellow pine
Board orientation is the thing, its a myth to just nail in the center, for example I built a1500 sq ft deck around house from 1x6 pt purchased from HD, soaking wet, thru and thru, butted boards together all around by using 3 nails per joist. As they dried, end butts no gaps, side butts shrunk to proper 1/4 inch gaps, absolutely no cracks, not one.. Thats because the wood is shrinking on all sides of the nail, not just from the center out.
Thanks for adding your experience.