I am a 4th generation Episcopalian who loves the Church. It has been called a "Big Tent", referring to the fact that there is a diversity of opinions and beliefs within it. The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America was formed after the war for American independence from Great Britain. The Church's liturgy is beautiful, its hymns are gorgeous, and the clergy's vestments aren't too bad, either. Mainly, however, we love our Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ!
@@jacobprice4544 Hello Jacob! Yes, the Episcopal welcomes all people baptized in the name of the Holy Trinity to participate fully in the life of the church, including the taking of Holy Communion. Regarding church membership, the Episcopal church has a process called reception where the person already baptized in the name is "received" into the church by a Bishop, similar to that of confirmation. I hope this helps. God bless.
Your entire channel, all the videos together, remind me of something C.S. Lewis said in Mere Christianity. He compared different Christian denominations to different doors leading to different rooms in one big hall. He said, "The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in. For that purpose the worst of the rooms (whichever that may be) is, I think, preferable. It is true that some people may find they have to wait in the hall for a considerable time, while others feel certain almost at once which door they must knock at. I do not know why there is this difference, but I am sure God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait. When you do get into your room you will find that the long wait has done you some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light; and, of course, even in the hall, you must begin trying to obey the rules which are common to the whole house. And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and panelling. In plain language, the question should never be: 'Do I like that kind of service?' but 'Are these doctrines true: is holiness here? Does my conscience move me towards this? Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular door-keeper?' When you have reached your own room, be kind to those who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if there are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them. That is one of the rules common to the whole house.” Keep up the great work! And, may the Lord God guide each of us to the door that is right and true. May we also be kind and pray for those who are at different doors and in different rooms.
As a devout, 4th generation, Episcopalian, I appreciate you referencing the official Episcopal website quotes and not just stating your opinion and understanding of the doctrine. I think the question regarding whether Episcopalians believe in the Bible was poorly worded. The quote from the church’s website is clear. Growing up, the more I learned about the Episcopal faith the more grateful I was to have been born and raised in it. So many people lose the faith and turn away from (or never had a faith) because their house of worship denied their intellect or humanity. I love the ‘Via Media’
Madhyama Pratipada. Christ the savior of the west, Buddha the savior of the east. They save not by grabbing your wrist and lifting you up, but by standing in front of you with such an effulgent countenance that you cannot help but run into their bosom your self. The land of the setting sun and the land of the rising sun will soon rediscover their primordial union. May peace prevail on Earth during this inauspicious age of violence, power and greed.
As a Catholic, it bewilders me how similar the Episcopalians are. Basically Catholics, however there are major points that we disagree with. But it's one of the closest protestant branches.
The elder branches of protestantism is a decendant of the western Chruch. Ergo Roman Catholics. Presbyterians (calvenists), Anglicans, Lutherans, and Moravians (Hussites) are generally similar or "catholic" lite. Its a object of "protest" to authority and subsuquent dogamas there in.
@@iagoofdraiggwyn98 I am aware of that. But of course, once Luther made his arguments, many Northern Europeans wanted to cash in to the movement, drew their own conclusions, and now that's why there are hundreds of different protestant branches today. Most of which are way farther away from the original "protesting" of the Catholic church's authority.
@@ryanrodriguez7911 Yeah, but those three that i mentioned are the catholic chruch (reformed), so they would look and feel similar in terms of sacraments and high chruch visuals
I've been an athiest for many years, and sometimes I question it. I have a high revulsion to religion. But I always feel if I was to believe in God and pick a belief system... the Episcopalian doctrine is the closest thing I can relate to. I live the fundamental belief that Faith is whatever makes you feel closer to God. We can believe different things of have different views on common religions teachings or history or whatnot. Whatever brings you peace. Is good. Idk how to word it. The fact they welcome science and welcome questioning faith. I love it.
I was raised effectively as an Evangelical. As you may realize, there is a certain reputation that proceeds this denomination's beliefs. The older I grew and the more I learned, the more I came to a realization of a deficit (among other problems of course), and it very much was in the spirit of your last few words here - welcome science and welcome questioning faith. There is unfortunately very little faith in science within Evangelical circles and even many "non-denominational" churches, and it seems that questioning faith, meaning seeking to see if what you're believing is correct, is either discouraged or generally avoided. Fortunately, the way I see it now, there is a perfectly viable (and better in my humble opinion) understanding of the Bible that respects God-inspired writings but also doesn't compromise the necessary human nature of the authors and the cultural understandings that they wrote from. In that light, many of the controversial passages found within Scripture (such as the Genesis 1 or Flood account) don't require any absurd translation that compromises the rest of the Bible. Many people holding to strict inerrancy doctrine would probably disagree with me, but I suppose there's a reason an ongoing debate persists. As it stands now, I believe that I maintain a reasonable theology, but its very precedent for existence is set from known scientific research, consistent historical findings, and philosophical thought. Perhaps it would encourage you to know that such a thing is possible, albeit not very common within North American culture and thought.
I suspect a lot of Episcopalians are closet atheists, as most of us consider the Bible allegorical and treat the whole thing as more of a philosophy than a religion. Personally, I don't literally believe in God, but I do feel like attending an Episcopal church and being a part of such a welcoming community has had a positive psychological influence on me. You never hear any preaching about Satan or hellfire, that's for sure; only thought-provoking sermons that inspire us to become better people in our daily lives.
Part of the issue is (given that definition of "inerrancy"), anyone who denies the historical literality of certain events would necessarily have to say they reject inerrancy. This is why many more conservative bodies (although short of fundamentalist) such as the Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox reject the label of inerrancy while at the same time affirming the Bible's "infallibility." This is because while they do not see all of the historical narratives as needing to be taken as "literal truth", they nonetheless affirm that the Scriptures are the result of the Holy Spirit's inspiration and thus free of error in all matters concerning "doctrine and morality." So if inerrancy = absolute literalism, most Christians will resist the label... however, if inerrancy simply means that the Bible teaches no errors, than most Christians will affirm it.
The ironic thing about the biblical "infallibility" is that Protestants reject several books included in the Catholic Bible. How can one be a fundamentalist and yet cherry pick which books of the Bible to acknowledge as canon? That's the very definition of hypocrisy right there.
On Hell, the survey doesn't capture what I take to be a very Episcopalian position: to believe in the existence of a state of permanent separation from God, but to hope and pray that no one will end up there.
I was baptized Episcopalian, but was raised in a pretty secular household, recently I've sought out faith, first through Eastern Orthodoxy, but I stopped going to that church and found difficulty in feeling a part of the community there and in feeling present during Liturgy. Lately I've just been reading the Bible on my own and am debating seeking out an Episcopalian church. Maybe I'm just fickle lmao
I love Episcopal sites/ topics.When I chance upon one, I read even the comments. I noticed that even non-Episcopalians can freely say, express what they think in Episcopal sites, and Episcopalians take whatever criticisms, gracefully.
This is a great video! As someone interested in the Episcopalian church, googling individual questions often turns up long winded vague paragraphs that don't really answer my questions.
Everybody shows up and prays the same words while at the same time believing different things about what those words mean. You aren't going to find a single answer, the variety of answers you're finding is as clear as it's going to get. Don't get me wrong, though. There are plenty of us that say the Nicene Creed every Sunday and only mean just what it says.
Raised from birth to 15 years in The Church of God (Cleveland Tennessee). 16 converted and baptized into The Episcopal Church, confirmed at 17. Have a love/dislike relationship with The Episcopal Church.
@@Margoctober It wasn't really that he "started it" since early Anglicanism was just Catholicism with a different name. He himself identified as Catholic even after England and Rome separated. Anglicanism is more about the evolution of beliefs and practices over the centuries in the absence of Catholic influence, which depending on tradition is either nearly identical or wildly divergent. Episcopalianism is the American offshoot if Anglicanism so you're correct there. Regardless, Anglicanism still has apostolic succession because of its Catholic "heritage," you could say, so Anglican priests are connected to the apostles in the same was that Catholic priests are, so I don't think it's necessarily fair to completely discredit Anglicanism/Episcopalianism solely because of its origins.
That part at the end about some Episcopalians not believing the Bible is the Word of God is shocking and saddening at the same time because at every Episcopal service at the end of daily scripture reading the priest says “the Word of the Lord” and the congregation replies “thanks be to God”.
I mean, in their defense, a prevailing belief is that it's divinely inspired and not the literal word of God. That's my own belief, for instance, so I would answer no to it being the word of God. I don't consider it a sad fact at all, because, frankly, the third pillar of the church is reason, and you can make strong arguments for exactly how it can't be the literal word of God.
Not so sad, considering the bible canon did not exist for the first few hundreds of years of the church. You can be thankful for the word of the Lord, recognizing that you are receiving a truly divine inspired message, but also keeping in mind that these divinely inspired messages were communicated through imperfect vessels, as all humans are guilty of sin. Until Jesus himself comes back and tells us from his mouth, make sure to check if the word coming from man is consistent with the nature of God.
I love the Episcopal Church and am a member of it. My criticism of this video is that it is read too fast. This should be read slowly so that people can follow what is being said and assimilate it without having to pause the video in order to think about what is being said. I have noticed that other videos unfortunately have the same problem.
As you touched on is their official position on Biblical inerrancy. The Episcopal church asserts that the Bible may have errors in "what it teaches about God and God's will for human salvation" presumably because it has passed through the hands of mankind. This allows them to create doctrine as they wish since they can decide something in scripture is a mistake or something more nefarious. Ironically, their doctrine making process is by definition passing the Word of God "through the hands of mankind". Their whole statement is in the glossary of terms on their official website, but I'll quote it here: Inerrancy, Biblical The belief that the Bible contains no errors, whether theological, moral, historical, or scientific. Sophisticated holders of this theory, however, stress that the biblical manuscripts as originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek were inerrant, but not those that are presently available. Some more conservative scholars are reluctant to speak of inerrancy, but choose to speak of biblical infallibility. They mean that the Bible is completely infallible in what it teaches about God and God's will for human salvation, but not necessarily in all its historical or scientific statements. Biblical inerrancy and infallibility are not accepted by the Episcopal Church. See Fundamentalism.
That last statement of the video is astonishing, "44% don't believe that the Bible is the word of God." The abrupt ending there sounded like a "mic drop." 😅 However, I do greatly appreciate the efficiency of your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Having confidence in our relationship with God in our baptism ( regardless of when it occurred) we have already been "born again" in Christ and need not repeat it. This is my opinion, not an official Episcopal Church doctrine.
Please, people of the world, listen to us and see the situation Ethiopia is in now. If you feel humanity, there will always be conflict, conflict, conflict.
In 1991 I renewed my confirmation vows in a large old Episcopal church in Houston, Texas. I loved that church. I served as an usher, a lay reader, and an officiant at Evening Prayer. I attended Wednesday evening adult Bible study and 10:00 Sunday morning Eucharist. I felt like I was part of a church that was doing its part in upholding Christian truth. How times have changed! That church now sponsors drag queen shows at gay bars. They now have a majority of priestesses on staff. They now hold "blessing of the backpacks" ceremonies. I guess this is in line with the overall trend in the Episcopal Church. Sadly, since 1991, the ordination of admitted alcoholics and of divorcees is commonplace. The reprehensible and evil fatal hit and run of Suffragen Bishop Heather Cook in 2014 encapsulates the apparent moral vacuousness of the Episcopal Church today. Looking at the big picture, Protestantism is whatever you want it to be.
Hmm one of priests explained to me that we as Episcopalians are not Sola Scriptura (scripture only) we are really in practice Prima scriptura (scripture is primary).
My view of taking the Eucharist or the communion is that you are not only becoming United with Christ in his body and blood but you're also saying I am in communion with this body of christians. I do not take communion in churches where I do not feel that I am in communion with them. Whether that is right or wrong I do not know it is what I as a farmer Anglican priest and now a retired minister it is what I believe and what I practice.
I'm not religious at all. But if I were to come back to Christianity (assuming I don't fully reconnect with my Jewish heritage) I'd only join progressive churches like episcopal or UCC. Since both would accept that I'm queer
@@active6302 Then answer me this: why would God make so many people gay? The verse in Paul speaks against mol3station of child slaves owned by rich men, it was never about being gay.
@@greyysxnYou could say this to defend any sin. If God hates sin X, then why did God make so many people who desire to commit sin X? We are fallen sinful people, we should expect lots of people to desire sinful things.
Episcopal churches do confession as a group during the service. But if you would like a private confession with an Episcopal priest, you can make an appointment with the priest.
lowkey from what i been hearing the church is mainly left but sense i live in mississippi it aint like that at all but its mississippi. All they know is acceptance here
Basically, if you believe Christ is present during the Eurcharist that's fine. And if you believe in transubstantiation that's also fine. Some people kneel and bow to the alter and some don't, it's all fine. No one will kick you out of the church.
Both are the same. Transubstantiation means that the bread and wine are transformed into the body and blood of CHRIST. When and how it happens is during the communion prayers. The words and actions are not magic words. It happens because CHRIST loves us and he freely gives us the grace of his body and blood. When two or three are gathered CHRIST is really present (Mathew 18:20). Even if we are not celebrating holy communion, he is really with us as Mathew taught.
@In the Wilderness of Be'er Sheva that is awful. I thought that we are in full communion with the Lutheran churches. They should not have singled you out or refused you communion. We had priest serve as interim for a few months who was ordained by the Lutherans and serves in the Episcopal Church. She is retired from Lutheran ministry, so does that make it different? I don't know.
@In the Wilderness of Be'er Sheva I went to Roman Catholic Schools for elementary. I went through 1st Communion and served as a altar boy for school and Sunday mass. I was asked to be in an Easter pageant. I told the priest only then that I was never baptized and wasn't Catholic. I was kicked out of school. I was sent to a public elementary for 6th grade.
Seriously:does it matter if the actual body and blood are present or not is if no importance! One can debate it interminably. Why not just see the Eucharist as a Rite and take it from there and resolve to do good in your daily life!
That isn’t what the video stated. A large portion of us do not believe that the Bible inerrantly, literally reflects that Word. It was written by humans - and first century humans, at that.
@@RustyMadd the church was founded by a horny and brutal king who wanted to get married again, who even when he got what he wanted beheaded his ex wife anyway... there, i said it.
@@misterprogressive8730 false. The Anglican Church came into being by Elizabeth 1st. Henry simply severed Rome's authority, Edward made it Protestant, and Mary made it Roman Catholic again. Elizabeth created the via Media and the C of E as we know it.
The "archbishop" of Canterbury doubted God's existence after terror attacks. What a pathetic, lazy, cowardly, arrogant presumptuous, ignorant position to take. www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/11/22/archbishop-of-canterbury-doubted-gods-presence-after-terror-attacks/
If you want a milktoast religion that will make you feel good about yourself and not require any sacrifice and where even devil worship is seen as "well that is not a good thing; but let me pray on it so you don't hurt yourself" then the Episcopal Church is the place to be. A Place where good and evil do not exist because all is relative and we do not want to hurt anyone's feelings because there really is no right or wrong except perhaps wanting to raise children with a mother and dad in a marriage. But being a transexual is great and being a homosexual is even better. That is why I left this church because it was not consonant with the New Testament as Jesus Christ taught it and is written in the New Testament.
@Melissa. This is why the following article reported : www.christianpost.com/news/episcopal-church-cease-to-have-sunday-worship-attendance-in-30-years-seminary-president-warns.html
Why? The Holy Bible is full of inaccuracies, especially the various English versions. It has been both purposely and accidentally mistranslated and misinterpreted countless times over thousands of years even without considering, but especially when considering historical and cultural contexts. Some books of the Holy Bible were never intended to be taken literally from the beginning, but as 'books of wisdom.' These are facts.
@@MrSurfingdreamer well, I’m Catholic. Misinterpretation isn’t an issue. We aren’t all free to make the Bible what we want it to mean, it means what the church says it means.
They believe in another Christ,not the Christ of the Bible. They also tie works with salvation. Which is saying that Christ blood is not powerful enough to save us. Read John and Romans to get a clear teaching of the Gospel.
I think these Pro Catholic comments are a prime example of why the only successful Catholics are the ones who accept a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy on sin early on and totally. There’s very few honest Catholics I have met. What I mean by honest is honesty with themselves. I don’t think many Catholics go to Confession harboring a “chronic sin” ever admit it to a priest or deacon. The point of Catholicism is that you all obey the Church’s authority in public and at least the appearance of conformity on Sundays. A Catholic life is about guilt and unending shame to please who exactly? God? St. Peter? Who?! The idea that God forgives everyone yet the Catholic clergy do not is a contradiction I will never get over and it’s often over shit that doesn’t affect the daily lives of people. Do you care who your neighbor loves? No. No you don’t because your neighbor probably doesn’t parade his love around often if at all - just like you. The Catholic Church burned and executed the Knights Templars over money and pressure from in debt kings. The Knights Templar were warrior monks. They protected pilgrims to the Holy Land. They invented western banking to meet the needs of the pilgrims on their long journey. The Catholic Church was never about God - it was about social control and power. It still is about that to this day. The Lutheran Reformation didn’t just happen out of nowhere. Catholic Churches were scamming people all over the world in the name of God. Ironically, you’d think God would smite these heretics and con men. Instead, he inspired Martin Luther. The Church of England was created because the Catholic Church was not bribed enough to grant King Henry VIII a divorce, so he basically retaliated by kicking out the Catholic Church presence in England. Keep in mind, the king didn’t care about the Catholic abuses of power until they interfered with this own life. Think about that. The Catholic Church is a political church and to say otherwise ignores several thousand years worth of conquest and bloody social control. The Episcopal Church doesn’t seem too political unless you’re a Catholic. If you’re American, the idea that you can be conservative and Catholic kinda blows my mind because you basically support a global order but shit on the UN. lol Catholics are the epitome of hypocrisy.
The Church of England (of which the Episcopal Church is associated) promotes children deciding their gender. ....www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/11/13/transgender-id-church-tells-schools/
Wrong! It accepts transgendered children. See the difference? One statement is transphobic aka. bigotry and the other is accurate. That is both scientifically accurate and an accurate depiction of the Episcopal Church as well as the Church of England as Christian denominations.
You’re misinterpreting what that choice means in the data. It’s 47% that don’t believe that it is the literal word of God, but instead the transcribed word.
Repent and put your trust in Jesus. We're all sinners and deserve Hell, but Christ died on the cross for our sins. Anybody who puts their trust in Jesus will be saved. Read Roman's 3:10 and Revalation 3:20
*** They support abortion with no restrictions whatsoever. Note: They updated their stance on abortion with D083, here is 4 and 5: 4. "Resolved, That the 80th General Convention affirms that all Episcopalians should be able to access abortion services and birth control with no restriction on movement, autonomy, type, or timing; and be it further" 5. "Resolved, That the 80th General Convention understands that the protection of religious liberty extends to all Episcopalians who may need or desire to access, to utilize, to aid others in the procurement of, or to offer abortion services." It is clear, they advocate for abortion WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS. And they even add protection of religious liberty to those who "aid others in the procurement of, or to offer abortion services." In my humble opinion, this is incredibly evil, and I suggest nobody be a member of any organization that supports the killing of babies.
TEC didn't welcome me, my wife, my elder son, or my black grandson. They love to virtue signal, but their three rules are shut up, sit down, and put money in the plate.
@@mrredsocialworker Many are, and God bless you and them. Strangely enough, I found God in the church. I still go to one, now and then, but mainly online. I would still like to get my black grandson confirmed, but don't want him hurt again. Blessings.
Not taking their faith seriously means that the name "Episcopal Christian" is meaningless. An atheist or agnostic can also claim "Bible as not the Word of God" and "No existence of Hell"
@AB D114 Please verify your viewpoint with Biblical evidence. In the Bible, Gospel of John in chapter 3 verses 16-21 (NIV): "16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God." And thank you for your reply.
@AB D114 Finish reading 1 John Chapter 2 because it clearly gives warnings to anyone who denies Jesus. 1 John Chapter 2 complete (NIV): "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did. 7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. 8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and in you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining. 9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them. 12 I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name. 13 I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. 14 I write to you, dear children, because you know the Father. I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one. 15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever. 18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. 20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us-eternal life. 26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit-just as it has taught you, remain in him. 28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him." Thank you.
The Episcopal view of Hell is very similar to Eastern Christianity. Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Catholics all have that in common. I know of both Eastern and Western Christians who also don't believe in the Virgin Birth. Orthodox and Catholics in the East, and Protestants and Catholics in the West. Sad but true.
4:04 is ridiculous, I was baptized into a Church as a child under the similar pretense yet my life was utterly sinful & devoid of the love of God. It was only when I truly put Faith in Christ did I become born again into a new creation seeking after righteousness & justified by way of Christs sacrifice through Faith. They truly preach a false progressive gospel in which the road to salvation is as wide as possible, to state those who continue in homosexuality are not rebelling against God is blasphemy against the clear words of Paul in Romans 1:26, 1 Cor 6:9 etc. this is what happens when you lessen the Word of God, all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit, ppl here i read want to argue against this due to supposed translational errors, if u actually knew, the consistency of translation is at like 98% accuracy and has nothing to do with foundational doctrine, only the inevitable fault of human error. See how ppl use any excuse to change the Word of God, once this begins it is as a plague, nothing is off limits, I pray for the people swept up in this.
The Episcopal Church is so secular that it leads people to atheism. Your discussions of Christian doctrines in this video are not what the Episcopal church teaches in Sunday School: All the discussions I remember were political (such as opposing apartheid in Rhodesia). 👎
"Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, It's all the same." Katharine Jefferts Schori on TH-cam. That and the acceptance of homosexual clergy and performing homosexual wedding were my decision not to join the Episcopal Church. I attend a lovely (non woke) Anglican congregation.
Probably a good move for you. The Episcopal Church is definitely not the place for those who hate our gay brothers and sisters or any other minority. Peace to you.
@@corym8358 Not accepting the sin of homosexuality is not the same as hating the person who lives that lifestyle. @seachiefpaul didn't say he hated anyone, just that he doesn't think their lifestyle should be condoned by the church.
@@EvieBear236 Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. It's a sexual orientation. if you don't at minimum know that, then you probably shouldn't be opening your mouth on the topic anyway.
So...y’all just gonna marry the Catholic “baptismal regeneration” and the Evangelical “once saved always saved” and act like there’s no prob? Okay. As a now Catholic, Baptism washes sin AND you can reject baptismal graces and still go to hell. Baptism isn’t a ticket to heaven. The Christian life, which baptism is a part of, is.
That is not what the Episcopal Church believes. It is also not even what he said in this TH-cam video, which is not a good source of information for what should be obvious reasons.
Get this. Not even joking about this. There's a loophole in the articles of religion about this. Christ is truly present in the bread, BUT, if you are a non believer, he basically leaves the bread. Therefore people who don't believe in real presence can partake without actually eating his flesh and blood, though the church would say the rest of us ate it.
Nah, they lost credibility only among those who hate gays, many of whom are self-loathing closeted gays and bi's themselves. Fortunately most of them have left the denomination and it's a lot more peaceful now. Sometimes separations are messy yet necessary. Peace to you!
THE PROTESTANT EPISCOPAL CHURCH has been derailed from the teachings of the Holy Bible now for at least since the 1960's about the time of its' most notorious Bishop, Bishop James A. Pike. The Episcopal Church has long forgotten the teachings of the Holy Bible and is far from the teachings of Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. They have greatly changed the teachings of the Holy Bible to meet "politically correct" standards so prevalent today.
The Episcopal Church’s statement on gay marriage was an extensive and thorough process, applying Biblical principles to the conclusion. You can’t just yell.
@@frogtownroad9104 It was indeed a process to meet their own politically correct agenda of today and not in anyway the doctrine as set forth in Holy Scripture.
@@richardmcleod1930 Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it politically correct. Pacifism isn’t political correct. Prison abolitionism isn’t politically correct. Forgiveness? Not politically correct. Grow up.
@@frogtownroad9104 There is only one response I can give you and which comes from Holy Scripture, the Word of Almighty God. not me. "All Scripture is given for Doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for Instruction in Righteousness that the man of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished unto all good works" What I like really doesn't matter. It does matter what Almighty God thinks and has given us in Holy Scripture (and he gives us a lot) we both like and just may not like..
I'm a Young born again Christian I go to an Episcopal Church and after seeing this and how unbiblical the teachings of the Episcopal Church are I want to find a different Church but I can't I'm too young to go to a different Church on my own will and me and my family already have a community in that church but I still I want to be a place that actually worships God what should I do?
@@darthjarjar4270 My brother stay strong and courageous, what you want to do is pray to God that he will place you where you and your family need to be. But you definitely want to attend a bible teaching Church. But the key is pray to God to where he wants to lead you. Remember the church is not about numbers in members but the genuine of true Christians. And as long as the Gospel of JesusChrist is priority the you found a good home
Lost, why do “fundamentalists” think they hold authority about what the Bible is? You understand you’re newer than all these traditions right? Your views of Mary border on Nestorianism. Your views of the Eucharist border on heresy. And you have the Gaul to say Episcopalians aren’t Biblical? The nerve. The absolute nerve.
@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 ya it's sick to justify sin. They just picking and choosing what to believe. I've seen so many ppl in comment sections saying they like this church because it's more inclusive. Church's shouldn't be exclusive but at the same time it's important to call out sin. This sect isn't bringing anyone to God and like you said is very sad.
But Christ is not in the Eucharist in your church, because your priests and bishops are not validly ordained. When Henry Vlll broke with the Holy Catholic Church, it was over.
England was considered reconciled with the Catholic Church when Mary Tudor became queen. England was not placed under interdict until Elizabeth I re-established the Church of England and re-introduced the Book of Common Prayer. According to Rome, the Church of England lost apostolic succession near the beginning of Elizabeth's reign.
@@richardsaintjohn8391 That is true--a point I should have spelled out since the churches you have listed do each recognize the validity of orders of each other, and Rome even recognizes the validity of their orders if I recall correctly, just not the orders of the Church of England which remains an issue of negotiation between them.
Pope Leo XIII had no authority over JESUS neither did he have authority outside of the Roman Catholic Church. Papal superiority is not taught by any scripture or by any Ecumenical Council. Those are the Councils began at Nicea. The pope has no authority over anyone not submitting to him. Only JESUS is the head of the church and no pope tells him what to do.
You know those robber baron families and banker families that the media says are targets of anti-semitic conspiracies? They're actually Episcopalians. Episcopalians are "disproportionately represented" in all aspects of the American elite, from presidents, other politicians, universities, and so on.
This "church" was founded by a adulterer Henry XVIII and has links to terrorist linked foundations like the one in Birmingham, England. This has already been proven.
Why is the Episcopal Church of Texas the only boorish, crass, low class entity that destroys the peace and quiet of a Saturday morning with a noisy leaf blower? Very abusive, nasty people--a pathetic excuse for a "church". No love there. They are the ONLY ones making noise on a Saturday morning!
I am a 4th generation Episcopalian who loves the Church. It has been called a "Big Tent", referring to the fact that there is a diversity of opinions and beliefs within it. The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America was formed after the war for American independence from Great Britain. The Church's liturgy is beautiful, its hymns are gorgeous, and the clergy's vestments aren't too bad, either. Mainly, however, we love our Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ!
Thank you, my friend. The Lord be with you. 😁
Happy Lent, everybody!
As an Episcopalian, I think you did a wonderful job of summarizing some of the basic tenants of the Episcopal Church.
I know it's kinda off topic but does anybody know of a good website to watch newly released movies online?
@Kristian Julian I use flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@Kristian Julian I would suggest FlixZone. Just google for it =)
@In the Wilderness of Be'er Sheva you whent through the two big ones and that counts.
@@jacobprice4544 Hello Jacob! Yes, the Episcopal welcomes all people baptized in the name of the Holy Trinity to participate fully in the life of the church, including the taking of Holy Communion. Regarding church membership, the Episcopal church has a process called reception where the person already baptized in the name is "received" into the church by a Bishop, similar to that of confirmation. I hope this helps. God bless.
Your entire channel, all the videos together, remind me of something C.S. Lewis said in Mere Christianity. He compared different Christian denominations to different doors leading to different rooms in one big hall. He said, "The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in. For that purpose the worst of the rooms (whichever that may be) is, I think, preferable. It is true that some people may find they have to wait in the hall for a considerable time, while others feel certain almost at once which door they must knock at. I do not know why there is this difference, but I am sure God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait. When you do get into your room you will find that the long wait has done you some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light; and, of course, even in the hall, you must begin trying to obey the rules which are common to the whole house. And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and panelling. In plain language, the question should never be: 'Do I like that kind of service?' but 'Are these doctrines true: is holiness here? Does my conscience move me towards this? Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular door-keeper?' When you have reached your own room, be kind to those who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if there are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them. That is one of the rules common to the whole house.”
Keep up the great work! And, may the Lord God guide each of us to the door that is right and true. May we also be kind and pray for those who are at different doors and in different rooms.
As a devout, 4th generation, Episcopalian, I appreciate you referencing the official Episcopal website quotes and not just stating your opinion and understanding of the doctrine. I think the question regarding whether Episcopalians believe in the Bible was poorly worded. The quote from the church’s website is clear. Growing up, the more I learned about the Episcopal faith the more grateful I was to have been born and raised in it. So many people lose the faith and turn away from (or never had a faith) because their house of worship denied their intellect or humanity. I love the ‘Via Media’
The squishy way is really a denial of what the scripture says of itself.
@@RustyMadd That’s modalism Patrick.
Madhyama Pratipada. Christ the savior of the west, Buddha the savior of the east. They save not by grabbing your wrist and lifting you up, but by standing in front of you with such an effulgent countenance that you cannot help but run into their bosom your self. The land of the setting sun and the land of the rising sun will soon rediscover their primordial union. May peace prevail on Earth during this inauspicious age of violence, power and greed.
Where are your roots?
As a Catholic, it bewilders me how similar the Episcopalians are. Basically Catholics, however there are major points that we disagree with. But it's one of the closest protestant branches.
The elder branches of protestantism is a decendant of the western Chruch. Ergo Roman Catholics.
Presbyterians (calvenists), Anglicans, Lutherans, and Moravians (Hussites) are generally similar or "catholic" lite.
Its a object of "protest" to authority and subsuquent dogamas there in.
@@iagoofdraiggwyn98 I am aware of that. But of course, once Luther made his arguments, many Northern Europeans wanted to cash in to the movement, drew their own conclusions, and now that's why there are hundreds of different protestant branches today. Most of which are way farther away from the original "protesting" of the Catholic church's authority.
@@ryanrodriguez7911 Yeah, but those three that i mentioned are the catholic chruch (reformed), so they would look and feel similar in terms of sacraments and high chruch visuals
Nope...Episcopal church has become too progressive to be considered similar to Catholics
They call us "reformed Catholics".
Proud to be an Episcopalian ❤
Good to know! I'm interested in becoming an Episcopalian.❤
This is orthodoxy for protestants
@@pugetsound1272 Hope you join us. My life has been the best it has when I started going about to official join my church soon
@pugetsound1272 don't do it!
Become a born again Christian
The episcopal church will lead you down the broad path to the wide gate
Baptized and confirmed at age 46. Love my.church.
I've been an athiest for many years, and sometimes I question it. I have a high revulsion to religion. But I always feel if I was to believe in God and pick a belief system... the Episcopalian doctrine is the closest thing I can relate to. I live the fundamental belief that Faith is whatever makes you feel closer to God. We can believe different things of have different views on common religions teachings or history or whatnot. Whatever brings you peace. Is good. Idk how to word it. The fact they welcome science and welcome questioning faith. I love it.
Catholics welcome science too, in fact it was a Roman Catholic priest that came up with the theory of the Big Bang.
I was raised effectively as an Evangelical. As you may realize, there is a certain reputation that proceeds this denomination's beliefs. The older I grew and the more I learned, the more I came to a realization of a deficit (among other problems of course), and it very much was in the spirit of your last few words here - welcome science and welcome questioning faith. There is unfortunately very little faith in science within Evangelical circles and even many "non-denominational" churches, and it seems that questioning faith, meaning seeking to see if what you're believing is correct, is either discouraged or generally avoided. Fortunately, the way I see it now, there is a perfectly viable (and better in my humble opinion) understanding of the Bible that respects God-inspired writings but also doesn't compromise the necessary human nature of the authors and the cultural understandings that they wrote from. In that light, many of the controversial passages found within Scripture (such as the Genesis 1 or Flood account) don't require any absurd translation that compromises the rest of the Bible. Many people holding to strict inerrancy doctrine would probably disagree with me, but I suppose there's a reason an ongoing debate persists.
As it stands now, I believe that I maintain a reasonable theology, but its very precedent for existence is set from known scientific research, consistent historical findings, and philosophical thought. Perhaps it would encourage you to know that such a thing is possible, albeit not very common within North American culture and thought.
I suspect a lot of Episcopalians are closet atheists, as most of us consider the Bible allegorical and treat the whole thing as more of a philosophy than a religion. Personally, I don't literally believe in God, but I do feel like attending an Episcopal church and being a part of such a welcoming community has had a positive psychological influence on me. You never hear any preaching about Satan or hellfire, that's for sure; only thought-provoking sermons that inspire us to become better people in our daily lives.
Former Athiest here! I recently joined the episcopal church for the same reasons :)
Same here! I go to an episcopal church and it is so welcoming! It is also very lgbt accepting. :)
Your videos open up so many doors for me! I didn’t realize how much I don’t know!! Thank you so much for your work. I really appreciate it.
Thanks Salinda, I am glad you have found them to be helpful!
Part of the issue is (given that definition of "inerrancy"), anyone who denies the historical literality of certain events would necessarily have to say they reject inerrancy. This is why many more conservative bodies (although short of fundamentalist) such as the Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox reject the label of inerrancy while at the same time affirming the Bible's "infallibility." This is because while they do not see all of the historical narratives as needing to be taken as "literal truth", they nonetheless affirm that the Scriptures are the result of the Holy Spirit's inspiration and thus free of error in all matters concerning "doctrine and morality."
So if inerrancy = absolute literalism, most Christians will resist the label... however, if inerrancy simply means that the Bible teaches no errors, than most Christians will affirm it.
Correct.
agreed
The ironic thing about the biblical "infallibility" is that Protestants reject several books included in the Catholic Bible. How can one be a fundamentalist and yet cherry pick which books of the Bible to acknowledge as canon? That's the very definition of hypocrisy right there.
On Hell, the survey doesn't capture what I take to be a very Episcopalian position: to believe in the existence of a state of permanent separation from God, but to hope and pray that no one will end up there.
My priest said someone similar recently. That maybe there's a hell but it's empty.
I was baptized Episcopalian, but was raised in a pretty secular household, recently I've sought out faith, first through Eastern Orthodoxy, but I stopped going to that church and found difficulty in feeling a part of the community there and in feeling present during Liturgy. Lately I've just been reading the Bible on my own and am debating seeking out an Episcopalian church. Maybe I'm just fickle lmao
Same 😂
I love Episcopal sites/ topics.When I chance upon one, I read even the comments. I noticed that even non-Episcopalians can freely say, express what they think in Episcopal sites, and Episcopalians take whatever criticisms, gracefully.
This is a great video! As someone interested in the Episcopalian church, googling individual questions often turns up long winded vague paragraphs that don't really answer my questions.
Everybody shows up and prays the same words while at the same time believing different things about what those words mean. You aren't going to find a single answer, the variety of answers you're finding is as clear as it's going to get.
Don't get me wrong, though. There are plenty of us that say the Nicene Creed every Sunday and only mean just what it says.
Raised from birth to 15 years in The Church of God (Cleveland Tennessee). 16 converted and baptized into The Episcopal Church, confirmed at 17. Have a love/dislike relationship with The Episcopal Church.
Look up the episcopal fellowship for renewal
I'm not a Christian, but if I were I'd be an Episcopalian.
You're always welcome.
But then read Rome sweet Rome and become Catholic...so close and yet so far
@@Margoctober nah submit to canterbury brother lmfao
King Henry VIII started the Anglican Church from which the Episcopal church is an offshoot. Christ began the Catholic Church.
@@Margoctober It wasn't really that he "started it" since early Anglicanism was just Catholicism with a different name. He himself identified as Catholic even after England and Rome separated. Anglicanism is more about the evolution of beliefs and practices over the centuries in the absence of Catholic influence, which depending on tradition is either nearly identical or wildly divergent. Episcopalianism is the American offshoot if Anglicanism so you're correct there. Regardless, Anglicanism still has apostolic succession because of its Catholic "heritage," you could say, so Anglican priests are connected to the apostles in the same was that Catholic priests are, so I don't think it's necessarily fair to completely discredit Anglicanism/Episcopalianism solely because of its origins.
That part at the end about some Episcopalians not believing the Bible is the Word of God is shocking and saddening at the same time because at every Episcopal service at the end of daily scripture reading the priest says “the Word of the Lord” and the congregation replies “thanks be to God”.
jesus is the word
I mean, in their defense, a prevailing belief is that it's divinely inspired and not the literal word of God. That's my own belief, for instance, so I would answer no to it being the word of God. I don't consider it a sad fact at all, because, frankly, the third pillar of the church is reason, and you can make strong arguments for exactly how it can't be the literal word of God.
Not so sad, considering the bible canon did not exist for the first few hundreds of years of the church. You can be thankful for the word of the Lord, recognizing that you are receiving a truly divine inspired message, but also keeping in mind that these divinely inspired messages were communicated through imperfect vessels, as all humans are guilty of sin. Until Jesus himself comes back and tells us from his mouth, make sure to check if the word coming from man is consistent with the nature of God.
I love the Episcopal Church and am a member of it. My criticism of this video is that it is read too fast. This should be read slowly so that people can follow what is being said and assimilate it without having to pause the video in order to think about what is being said. I have noticed that other videos unfortunately have the same problem.
In the upper right corner of the video, tap on that corner and you will see three dots that give you options. You can change the playback speed.
@@pamelaroyce5285 Thank you very much for pointing this out. I did not know that.
Josh doesn't waste anyone's time, that's for sure!
I always have to slow his videos down
This Episcopalian believes that hell is the 405 at rush hour in a rain storm.
It's coffee hour but the coffee has run out.
Excellent summary. Good job.
As you touched on is their official position on Biblical inerrancy. The Episcopal church asserts that the Bible may have errors in "what it teaches about God and God's will for human salvation" presumably because it has passed through the hands of mankind. This allows them to create doctrine as they wish since they can decide something in scripture is a mistake or something more nefarious. Ironically, their doctrine making process is by definition passing the Word of God "through the hands of mankind". Their whole statement is in the glossary of terms on their official website, but I'll quote it here:
Inerrancy, Biblical
The belief that the Bible contains no errors, whether theological, moral, historical, or scientific. Sophisticated holders of this theory, however, stress that the biblical manuscripts as originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek were inerrant, but not those that are presently available. Some more conservative scholars are reluctant to speak of inerrancy, but choose to speak of biblical infallibility. They mean that the Bible is completely infallible in what it teaches about God and God's will for human salvation, but not necessarily in all its historical or scientific statements. Biblical inerrancy and infallibility are not accepted by the Episcopal Church. See Fundamentalism.
That last statement of the video is astonishing, "44% don't believe that the Bible is the word of God." The abrupt ending there sounded like a "mic drop." 😅 However, I do greatly appreciate the efficiency of your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Having confidence in our relationship with God in our baptism ( regardless of when it occurred) we have already been "born again" in Christ and need not repeat it. This is my opinion, not an official Episcopal Church doctrine.
That is what we teach. "One baptism for the forgiveness of sins".
This church condones sin. It's not bringing anyone to God.
Please, people of the world, listen to us and see the situation Ethiopia is in now. If you feel humanity, there will always be conflict, conflict, conflict.
In 1991 I renewed my confirmation vows in a large old Episcopal church in Houston, Texas. I loved that church. I served as an usher, a lay reader, and an officiant at Evening Prayer. I attended Wednesday evening adult Bible study and 10:00 Sunday morning Eucharist. I felt like I was part of a church that was doing its part in upholding Christian truth. How times have changed! That church now sponsors drag queen shows at gay bars. They now have a majority of priestesses on staff. They now hold "blessing of the backpacks" ceremonies. I guess this is in line with the overall trend in the Episcopal Church. Sadly, since 1991, the ordination of admitted alcoholics and of divorcees is commonplace. The reprehensible and evil fatal hit and run of Suffragen Bishop Heather Cook in 2014 encapsulates the apparent moral vacuousness of the Episcopal Church today. Looking at the big picture, Protestantism is whatever you want it to be.
Look up the episcopal fellowship for renewal
I love the episcopal church
I'm looking for a church ; I will study the beliefs of the Episcopal church.
Wow, that was a dark ending.
All the glorious liturgy without the guilt and, the Eucharist is offered to ALL baptized Christians.
I'm the only episcopalian in my parents family that isn't catholic lol, my husband is episcopalian though.
Where you find four Episcopalians you always find a fifth🥃 look it up. I’m pretty sure it’s in the Bible
That's a joke that was made by Baptists at church, before they run into each other at the liquor store the next Monday.
Why is the thumbnail the Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart, a Catholic cathedral in N.J.?
So they believe in Sola Scriptura, but only 47% of them believe the scriptures are the word of God? That doesn't even make sense!
Hmm one of priests explained to me that we as Episcopalians are not Sola Scriptura (scripture only) we are really in practice Prima scriptura (scripture is primary).
My view of taking the Eucharist or the communion is that you are not only becoming United with Christ in his body and blood but you're also saying I am in communion with this body of christians. I do not take communion in churches where I do not feel that I am in communion with them. Whether that is right or wrong I do not know it is what I as a farmer Anglican priest and now a retired minister it is what I believe and what I practice.
Are you episcopal? Or been to thier church's? Because I can tell this is not a church sect of God.
Please say Theotokos again.
Episcopal sounds like 95% of the RCC
it's Catholic Lite. At least that's how I have always heard it called.
My episcopal church is more catholic than my local RCC
without the sodomy@@sameash3153
I would be in 33% because I believe there are a lot of medafore and allegory situations in the bible..
I'm not religious at all. But if I were to come back to Christianity (assuming I don't fully reconnect with my Jewish heritage) I'd only join progressive churches like episcopal or UCC. Since both would accept that I'm queer
and that is the reason they're failing.
@@active6302It costs 0 dollars to love thy neighbor and not reflect your beliefs on others in a backhanded way.
@@greyysxn I am not being backhanded, being homosexual is a natural condition, acting on those urges is a sin, big difference!
@@active6302 Then answer me this: why would God make so many people gay? The verse in Paul speaks against mol3station of child slaves owned by rich men, it was never about being gay.
@@greyysxnYou could say this to defend any sin. If God hates sin X, then why did God make so many people who desire to commit sin X? We are fallen sinful people, we should expect lots of people to desire sinful things.
Do episcopal churches do individual confessions or group confessions?
Episcopal churches do confession as a group during the service. But if you would like a private confession with an Episcopal priest, you can make an appointment with the priest.
47% believe the bible is not the word of God.. I guess that part confused me.. Then what do they believe or where are they getting their teachings??
From devils
lowkey from what i been hearing the church is mainly left but sense i live in mississippi it aint like that at all but its mississippi. All they know is acceptance here
in my church not mississippi
It pronounced Theo-To-ko-os
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Still not clear about the 'real presence' and transubstantiation question.
Basically, if you believe Christ is present during the Eurcharist that's fine. And if you believe in transubstantiation that's also fine. Some people kneel and bow to the alter and some don't, it's all fine. No one will kick you out of the church.
Some mystery has to be left to God. It's not anyting like explaining how a V8 internal combustion engine works...
Both are the same. Transubstantiation means that the bread and wine are transformed into the body and blood of CHRIST. When and how it happens is during the communion prayers. The words and actions are not magic words. It happens because CHRIST loves us and he freely gives us the grace of his body and blood. When two or three are gathered CHRIST is really present (Mathew 18:20). Even if we are not celebrating holy communion, he is really with us as Mathew taught.
@In the Wilderness of Be'er Sheva that is awful. I thought that we are in full communion with the Lutheran churches. They should not have singled you out or refused you communion. We had priest serve as interim for a few months who was ordained by the Lutherans and serves in the Episcopal Church. She is retired from Lutheran ministry, so does that make it different? I don't know.
@In the Wilderness of Be'er Sheva I went to Roman Catholic Schools for elementary. I went through 1st Communion and served as a altar boy for school and Sunday mass. I was asked to be in an Easter pageant. I told the priest only then that I was never baptized and wasn't Catholic. I was kicked out of school. I was sent to a public elementary for 6th grade.
I'm converting to Catholic
Seriously:does it matter if the actual body and blood are present or not is if no importance! One can debate it interminably.
Why not just see the Eucharist as a Rite and take it from there and resolve to do good in your daily life!
my pops is a priest and he believes that the Anglican church isn’t protestant 😂
This belif goes back to a book by Montagu: "New Gagg for an Old Goose. Who Would Needes Undertake to Stop All Protestants Mouths forever"
8:40 is all you need to know about the TEC.
How can 47% not believe in the word of God?
That isn’t what the video stated. A large portion of us do not believe that the Bible inerrantly, literally reflects that Word. It was written by humans - and first century humans, at that.
Van Halen fan.
Who founded it ?
King Henry VIII of Britain
@@RustyMadd what?
@@RustyMadd the church was founded by a horny and brutal king who wanted to get married again, who even when he got what he wanted beheaded his ex wife anyway... there, i said it.
@@misterprogressive8730 false. The Anglican Church came into being by Elizabeth 1st. Henry simply severed Rome's authority, Edward made it Protestant, and Mary made it Roman Catholic again. Elizabeth created the via Media and the C of E as we know it.
@@Tsalagi978 The Anglican Church is in schism with the Catholic Church it is not a new church.
Who makes up all this stuff!!!?
Episcopaganism in New England. No longer Christian.
The "archbishop" of Canterbury doubted God's existence after terror attacks. What a pathetic, lazy, cowardly, arrogant presumptuous, ignorant position to take. www.breitbart.com/europe/2015/11/22/archbishop-of-canterbury-doubted-gods-presence-after-terror-attacks/
The Episcopal Church is liberal and progressive in leadership. They’ve drifted away from The Bible’s teachings.
If you want a milktoast religion that will make you feel good about yourself and not require any sacrifice and where even devil worship is seen as "well that is not a good thing; but let me pray on it so you don't hurt yourself" then the Episcopal Church is the place to be. A Place where good and evil do not exist because all is relative and we do not want to hurt anyone's feelings because there really is no right or wrong except perhaps wanting to raise children with a mother and dad in a marriage. But being a transexual is great and being a homosexual is even better. That is why I left this church because it was not consonant with the New Testament as Jesus Christ taught it and is written in the New Testament.
8:28 I am concerned... 😞
@Melissa. This is why the following article reported :
www.christianpost.com/news/episcopal-church-cease-to-have-sunday-worship-attendance-in-30-years-seminary-president-warns.html
Why? The Holy Bible is full of inaccuracies, especially the various English versions. It has been both purposely and accidentally mistranslated and misinterpreted countless times over thousands of years even without considering, but especially when considering historical and cultural contexts. Some books of the Holy Bible were never intended to be taken literally from the beginning, but as 'books of wisdom.' These are facts.
@@MrSurfingdreamer the meaning behind them is supposed to be taken literally also provide sources for your claims
@@MrSurfingdreamer well, I’m Catholic. Misinterpretation isn’t an issue. We aren’t all free to make the Bible what we want it to mean, it means what the church says it means.
@@GratiaPrima_ Rome preaches a gospel other than the one already preached. The Bible is like no other body of work in all human history.
The United States of America prefers its inheritance in Hell and they will put their life down for it. As witnessed by myself DOB 11-25-1952
They believe in another Christ,not the Christ of the Bible. They also tie works with salvation. Which is saying that Christ blood is not powerful enough to save us. Read John and Romans to get a clear teaching of the Gospel.
I think these Pro Catholic comments are a prime example of why the only successful Catholics are the ones who accept a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy on sin early on and totally.
There’s very few honest Catholics I have met. What I mean by honest is honesty with themselves. I don’t think many Catholics go to Confession harboring a “chronic sin” ever admit it to a priest or deacon. The point of Catholicism is that you all obey the Church’s authority in public and at least the appearance of conformity on Sundays.
A Catholic life is about guilt and unending shame to please who exactly? God? St. Peter? Who?! The idea that God forgives everyone yet the Catholic clergy do not is a contradiction I will never get over and it’s often over shit that doesn’t affect the daily lives of people. Do you care who your neighbor loves? No. No you don’t because your neighbor probably doesn’t parade his love around often if at all - just like you.
The Catholic Church burned and executed the Knights Templars over money and pressure from in debt kings. The Knights Templar were warrior monks. They protected pilgrims to the Holy Land. They invented western banking to meet the needs of the pilgrims on their long journey. The Catholic Church was never about God - it was about social control and power. It still is about that to this day.
The Lutheran Reformation didn’t just happen out of nowhere. Catholic Churches were scamming people all over the world in the name of God. Ironically, you’d think God would smite these heretics and con men. Instead, he inspired Martin Luther.
The Church of England was created because the Catholic Church was not bribed enough to grant King Henry VIII a divorce, so he basically retaliated by kicking out the Catholic Church presence in England. Keep in mind, the king didn’t care about the Catholic abuses of power until they interfered with this own life. Think about that.
The Catholic Church is a political church and to say otherwise ignores several thousand years worth of conquest and bloody social control.
The Episcopal Church doesn’t seem too political unless you’re a Catholic. If you’re American, the idea that you can be conservative and Catholic kinda blows my mind because you basically support a global order but shit on the UN. lol Catholics are the epitome of hypocrisy.
The Church of England (of which the Episcopal Church is associated) promotes children deciding their gender. ....www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/11/13/transgender-id-church-tells-schools/
Wrong! It accepts transgendered children. See the difference? One statement is transphobic aka. bigotry and the other is accurate. That is both scientifically accurate and an accurate depiction of the Episcopal Church as well as the Church of England as Christian denominations.
47% of Episcopals say the Bible is not the word of God!!!! CRAZY!!!! This denomination has serious issues...
Because the Bible says that Jesus is the Word of God (John 1), not the Bible. So it’s Biblically more correct.
That's because Episcopalians are under Catholic doctrines unknowingly. 47% is too high and many are being deceived.
You’re misinterpreting what that choice means in the data. It’s 47% that don’t believe that it is the literal word of God, but instead the transcribed word.
They're too progressive and fully support trans transition of children
I am skeptical of that statistic. The Anglican Church of which The Episcopal Church is a member is a biblical based church.
Repent and put your trust in Jesus. We're all sinners and deserve Hell, but Christ died on the cross for our sins. Anybody who puts their trust in Jesus will be saved.
Read Roman's 3:10 and Revalation 3:20
*** They support abortion with no restrictions whatsoever. Note: They updated their stance on abortion with D083, here is 4 and 5:
4. "Resolved, That the 80th General Convention affirms that all Episcopalians should be able to access abortion services and birth control with no restriction on movement, autonomy, type, or timing; and be it further"
5. "Resolved, That the 80th General Convention understands that the protection of religious liberty extends to all Episcopalians who may need or desire to access, to utilize, to aid others in the procurement of, or to offer abortion services."
It is clear, they advocate for abortion WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS. And they even add protection of religious liberty to those who "aid others in the procurement of, or to offer abortion services."
In my humble opinion, this is incredibly evil, and I suggest nobody be a member of any organization that supports the killing of babies.
Not for me, too much mumbo-jumbo.
79% believes abortion should be legal...smh
SMH that the remaining 21% can’t mind their own business when it comes to someone else’s pregnancy
@@Raccoon_Chic “Mind your own business as I partake in the recorded highest cause of death in the united states yearly.”
@@ricoparadiso The #1 cause of death in the US is drug overdose. I've never done drugs in my life. Soooooooo
@@Raccoon_Chic killing innocent Human Beings is wrong and should be illegal
Legal, yes. But we don't teach that it's for contraception or convenience.
TEC didn't welcome me, my wife, my elder son, or my black grandson. They love to virtue signal, but their three rules are shut up, sit down, and put money in the plate.
I’m very sorry that you had that experience. It is very different from what I experience at my church.
@@mrredsocialworker Thanks. That's why John Wesley started the Methodist Movement. Pax.
@@jamessheffield4173 well, I’m still proudly Episcopalian, but the warm welcoming kind.
@@mrredsocialworker Many are, and God bless you and them. Strangely enough, I found God in the church. I still go to one, now and then, but mainly online. I would still like to get my black grandson confirmed, but don't want him hurt again. Blessings.
It’s the same way I think about that chick and holly book 📖.
Not taking their faith seriously means that the name "Episcopal Christian" is meaningless. An atheist or agnostic can also claim "Bible as not the Word of God" and "No existence of Hell"
@AB D114 Please verify your viewpoint with Biblical evidence.
In the Bible, Gospel of John in chapter 3 verses 16-21 (NIV): "16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God."
And thank you for your reply.
@AB D114 Finish reading 1 John Chapter 2 because it clearly gives warnings to anyone who denies Jesus.
1 John Chapter 2 complete (NIV):
"My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.
7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. 8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and in you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.
9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.
12
I am writing to you, dear children,
because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
13
I am writing to you, fathers,
because you know him who is from the beginning.
I am writing to you, young men,
because you have overcome the evil one.
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I write to you, dear children,
because you know the Father.
I write to you, fathers,
because you know him who is from the beginning.
I write to you, young men,
because you are strong,
and the word of God lives in you,
and you have overcome the evil one.
15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist-denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us-eternal life.
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit-just as it has taught you, remain in him.
28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.
29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him."
Thank you.
@AB D114 Darwinism has the last word. And it definitely believes in Us and Them.
The Episcopal view of Hell is very similar to Eastern Christianity. Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Catholics all have that in common. I know of both Eastern and Western Christians who also don't believe in the Virgin Birth. Orthodox and Catholics in the East, and Protestants and Catholics in the West. Sad but true.
They support trans bishops who support LGBT community
4:04 is ridiculous, I was baptized into a Church as a child under the similar pretense yet my life was utterly sinful & devoid of the love of God. It was only when I truly put Faith in Christ did I become born again into a new creation seeking after righteousness & justified by way of Christs sacrifice through Faith. They truly preach a false progressive gospel in which the road to salvation is as wide as possible, to state those who continue in homosexuality are not rebelling against God is blasphemy against the clear words of Paul in Romans 1:26, 1 Cor 6:9 etc. this is what happens when you lessen the Word of God, all scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit, ppl here i read want to argue against this due to supposed translational errors, if u actually knew, the consistency of translation is at like 98% accuracy and has nothing to do with foundational doctrine, only the inevitable fault of human error. See how ppl use any excuse to change the Word of God, once this begins it is as a plague, nothing is off limits, I pray for the people swept up in this.
I totally agree with you.
The Episcopal Church is so secular that it leads people to atheism. Your discussions of Christian doctrines in this video are not what the Episcopal church teaches in Sunday School: All the discussions I remember were political (such as opposing apartheid in Rhodesia). 👎
TEC - thoroughly lost in the weeds.
8:30 Interesting “Christians”
They're anti-Christian
"charitable" quotes.
"Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, It's all the same." Katharine Jefferts Schori on TH-cam. That and the acceptance of homosexual clergy and performing homosexual wedding were my decision not to join the Episcopal Church. I attend a lovely (non woke) Anglican congregation.
Probably a good move for you. The Episcopal Church is definitely not the place for those who hate our gay brothers and sisters or any other minority. Peace to you.
We have some strange teachers in the Episcopal Church but many of our churches still teach that Jesus is the only way.
@@corym8358 Not accepting the sin of homosexuality is not the same as hating the person who lives that lifestyle. @seachiefpaul didn't say he hated anyone, just that he doesn't think their lifestyle should be condoned by the church.
@@EvieBear236 Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. It's a sexual orientation. if you don't at minimum know that, then you probably shouldn't be opening your mouth on the topic anyway.
@@corym8358Leviticus 18:22
So...y’all just gonna marry the Catholic “baptismal regeneration” and the Evangelical “once saved always saved” and act like there’s no prob? Okay. As a now Catholic, Baptism washes sin AND you can reject baptismal graces and still go to hell. Baptism isn’t a ticket to heaven. The Christian life, which baptism is a part of, is.
That is not what the Episcopal Church believes. It is also not even what he said in this TH-cam video, which is not a good source of information for what should be obvious reasons.
Our ticket to heaven is not based on anything we do it's based on the merit of Jesus Christ who God imputes his righteousness to us through his blood.
Hmm. Real presence isn't my deal, yo
It's not a required belief in the Episcopal Church.
Get this. Not even joking about this. There's a loophole in the articles of religion about this. Christ is truly present in the bread, BUT, if you are a non believer, he basically leaves the bread. Therefore people who don't believe in real presence can partake without actually eating his flesh and blood, though the church would say the rest of us ate it.
Sorry but the Episcopalians lost all credibility accepting gay marriage. That's extremely offensive.
Nah, they lost credibility only among those who hate gays, many of whom are self-loathing closeted gays and bi's themselves. Fortunately most of them have left the denomination and it's a lot more peaceful now. Sometimes separations are messy yet necessary. Peace to you!
The Episcopal church teaches a different gospel. Its accursed.
THE PROTESTANT EPISCOPAL CHURCH has been derailed from the teachings of the Holy Bible now for at least since the 1960's about the time of its' most notorious Bishop, Bishop James A. Pike.
The Episcopal Church has long forgotten the teachings of the Holy Bible and is far from the teachings of Jesus Christ 2000 years ago.
They have greatly changed the teachings of the Holy Bible to meet "politically correct" standards so prevalent today.
The Episcopal Church’s statement on gay marriage was an extensive and thorough process, applying Biblical principles to the conclusion. You can’t just yell.
@@frogtownroad9104 It was indeed a process to meet their own politically correct agenda of today and not in anyway the doctrine as set forth in Holy Scripture.
@@richardmcleod1930 No, it’s really not. The Episcopal Church still believes in a literal hell for nonbelievers. “Political correct” freaking where?
@@richardmcleod1930 Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it politically correct. Pacifism isn’t political correct. Prison abolitionism isn’t politically correct. Forgiveness? Not politically correct. Grow up.
@@frogtownroad9104 There is only one response I can give you and which comes from Holy Scripture, the Word of Almighty God. not me.
"All Scripture is given for Doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for Instruction in Righteousness that the man of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished unto all good works" What I like really doesn't matter. It does matter what Almighty God thinks and has given us in Holy Scripture (and he gives us a lot) we both like and just may not like..
Oh man , so much unbiblical theology
I'm a Young born again Christian I go to an Episcopal Church and after seeing this and how unbiblical the teachings of the Episcopal Church are I want to find a different Church but I can't I'm too young to go to a different Church on my own will and me and my family already have a community in that church but I still I want to be a place that actually worships God what should I do?
@@darthjarjar4270 My brother stay strong and courageous, what you want to do is pray to God that he will place you where you and your family need to be. But you definitely want to attend a bible teaching Church. But the key is pray to God to where he wants to lead you. Remember the church is not about numbers in members but the genuine of true Christians. And as long as the Gospel of JesusChrist is priority the you found a good home
@@Ohdeeare thank you so much
It’s so sad to see
Lost, why do “fundamentalists” think they hold authority about what the Bible is? You understand you’re newer than all these traditions right? Your views of Mary border on Nestorianism. Your views of the Eucharist border on heresy. And you have the Gaul to say Episcopalians aren’t Biblical? The nerve. The absolute nerve.
Oh so it's woke then... This is not a church of God.
Unfortunately as a baptized Episcopal I agree it's unfortunate that this is the norm
@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 ya it's sick to justify sin. They just picking and choosing what to believe. I've seen so many ppl in comment sections saying they like this church because it's more inclusive. Church's shouldn't be exclusive but at the same time it's important to call out sin. This sect isn't bringing anyone to God and like you said is very sad.
@@Perroden Exactly why I want to become Catholic
@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 I don’t become a Catholic
But Christ is not in the Eucharist in your church, because your priests and bishops are not validly ordained. When Henry Vlll broke with the Holy Catholic Church, it was over.
England was considered reconciled with the Catholic Church when Mary Tudor became queen. England was not placed under interdict until Elizabeth I re-established the Church of England and re-introduced the Book of Common Prayer. According to Rome, the Church of England lost apostolic succession near the beginning of Elizabeth's reign.
Rejecting the papacy does not invalidate orders. Greek Russian Old Catholic. Polish National Catholic Church etc.
@@richardsaintjohn8391 That is true--a point I should have spelled out since the churches you have listed do each recognize the validity of orders of each other, and Rome even recognizes the validity of their orders if I recall correctly, just not the orders of the Church of England which remains an issue of negotiation between them.
@@richardsaintjohn8391 , none are in communion with the one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church. Some could be valid, regardless all are illicit
Pope Leo XIII had no authority over JESUS neither did he have authority outside of the Roman Catholic Church. Papal superiority is not taught by any scripture or by any Ecumenical Council. Those are the Councils began at Nicea. The pope has no authority over anyone not submitting to him. Only JESUS is the head of the church and no pope tells him what to do.
Episcopalianism also attracts the decadent rich.
LOL! It's not the 1800's anymore. That hasn't been true since the 1920's at the very latest.
Good. It should attract everyone.
I suggest you look to the plank in the eye of most megachurches before you start judging others
You know those robber baron families and banker families that the media says are targets of anti-semitic conspiracies? They're actually Episcopalians. Episcopalians are "disproportionately represented" in all aspects of the American elite, from presidents, other politicians, universities, and so on.
If they don't believe the bible is The Word Of God they are just losers.
Is that your judgement of Episcopalians?
the Bible is the word of God. Do you believe that?
This "church" was founded by a adulterer Henry XVIII and has links to terrorist linked foundations like the one in Birmingham, England. This has already been proven.
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...wrong. Proven wrong, dear.
Why is the Episcopal Church of Texas the only boorish, crass, low class entity that destroys the peace and quiet of a Saturday morning with a noisy leaf blower? Very abusive, nasty people--a pathetic excuse for a "church". No love there. They are the ONLY ones making noise on a Saturday morning!
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LOL! I assume this is a joke, because it is too stupid to be a real opinion.
Wow… so much heresy