Hey man I was your game 2 opponent at this event, learnt a lot from the game and sorry if it seemed I was frustrated (I was lol) but it wasnt directed at you, you were a great opponent, hope we play again sometime!
I’m so early others might see my plea for all infantry Tau! You’re the master of guard and running them in any style. You’ve tasted victory with Tau so I know you can run them as all infantry like your guard! Please sir! I won’t stop begging until I see it!
I've thought about this a lot and i finally ended up admitting that it won't work (most likely) Don't get me wrong... You can definitely do it and have fun, but there's simply not enough support for this kind of list in T'au. The problem of course mostly being the lack of durability while having no way of bringing units back on top. That and even with 3 pathfinders with rail rifles, 3x6 stealth suits with fusion blasters and shadowsun, you'll struggle dealing with heavy stuff. Breachers do work for sure, but they really like Devilfish (which goes against the whole infantry only idea). You may be able to do it starting off with pathfinders, stealth suits, shadowsun and 3 20man kroot blobs with a shaper for screening, but i doubt there's enough there :/. Guard actually has much better tools to do it. On another note, i don't think Mordian has near close enough to the models required to pull this of. Edit: sample list 3 x breachers with fireblade (1 with exemplar) 3 x pathfinders (1 with darkstrider) 3 x 6 stealth suits 2 x strike team with ethereals (1 with through unity devastation) 3 x 20 kroot with kroot shapers 1 x 5 vespid 1 x Shadowsun
@@theStamax your critiques are very valid and I do appreciate your thoughts. It would be quite difficult for him to field the models I’m sure but a man can dream a bit. So despite this I shall continue my pleas. Plus if nothing else it’d be a bit entertaining to see
Im super interested in this idea. Ive made mock up lists but im not a big tau player yet (unbuilt 2500 point army) i have no idea how to play them cause i main space marines
*Angron about to come back out of the warp* Scions: "I heard what you did to Yarrick, son. You sure you want to do this again?" *Angron slowly backs away*
Represent! I've been running 2x3 armored sents with lascannons with my scions... can't bring myself to bring the flyers sadly. Need the anti tank. Great writeup!
I just wanted to add my approval of this kind of content. It feels like a lot of battle reports in one and we get to follow along the learning journey in "real life" (wh40k is only almost real).. Thank you!
I'm gonna be real, these tournament reports are literally the only 40k content I'm consuming right now. Absolutely love them and you smashing people with guard lists.
I've been playing Scions since 2018 thanks to this channel...I can say it's always a rollercoaster of emotions while playing with these boys but eveytime I come out having a blast!
Very fun video, I've been trying to make a 1000-point “Inquisition” list and one of the ways that's manifested most frequently was as a scion list, and this has given me some interesting things to think about.
Same. I’ve got a bunch of space marines, imperial agents, and scions and plan to add some knights. I can’t wait for my Inquisitorial Flame Car (Hellhound proxy) to arrive. I figured this way, I’ll end up with 800+ points that can fill in any Imperium Army.
Hey man, I didn’t get to play you at this tournament but love the list. I was the meme Custodes dreadnaught list middle of the table. Loving the videos as I build my Guard army, keep up the good work!
orks are feeling pretty powerful. I used my 1000 pts of orks for the first time. I won agaisnt an opponent that usually beats me when I use imperial guard.
I absolutely love these after action tournament reports but I’ve noticed a trend of games not reaching past round 4 or even round 3. Is that a result of the army or is there a player element there? (That’s not an accusation - I’d like to take the Guard to a tournament next year but not if I never get to finish games!)
Hi Mordian, I was wondering if you could publish a video where you adapt your fully narrative themed lists to be more competitive while still maintaining the theme. For example, instead of Pure Scion you mix in some other guard that would be more competitive, while still maintaining the theme overall. Just a thought. Thank you, Ben from Canada
Can't help thinking if you brought a Demolisher and a Tank Commander with a Demolisher turret instead of the Vultures the Ork fight would have gone smoother. Great Bat Rep 💪
I really hope they dial the cost in fliers back by about 30-40 per unit. I really want to play my airborne Scions. I personally am not a fan of the tauroxes (taurexi?). I feel like valks with lascannons and hellstrikes add the right kind of punch to the list. I also think for Scions that the rocket/missile load out just fits better than the gatling guns. Especially since it can fire 2 hellstrikes per shooting phase. I would love to go triple Valk, triple vulture, battleline Scions and maybe a couple of the inquisitors (Coteaz and Draxus probably). Kind of a pipe dream though as long as those fliers are about 200 pts each. Also one sad thing I noticed about the attachees is that the fleet commander only buffs things with aircraft. That means if you take any as hover, they lose aircraft and no longer synergize with him.
I'm curious to hear how'd you improve this list after your experience. Maybe switch the double vultture for a Shadowsword :P ? Though considering the terrain, maybe 2~3 medium tanks? PS: That frost themed demon army looks gorgeous.
I wonder if the tanks wouldn't become a liability. They wouldn't have the ability to strike the enemy where they were weakest. Maybe some of the forgeworld planes would fill it out better. Some of them are a lot cheaper than the Vultures, too.
I'll be trying out this list which uses scions as the infantry: LSL 3x Tempestus Command Squad 1 platoon command squad 3 enginseer 1x infantry squad (20 guys, 2 plasma, 2 mortar teams) 3 x 5 man Scion squads 3 taurox prime 3 leman russ battle tanks ( El classico) 1 exterminator 1 manticore
Krak missiles , I keep hoping they would be better one day. For pure scions though that is the only way. Also it used to be we could hope on some melta guns, melta needs some buffing imo.
A meltagun within 6" of a vehicle needing a 5+ on 1 dice to do anything (in an edition with a lot of invulnerable saves as well) is nuts to me as a returning player.
Great write up again :) but for me personally thaf terrain is way to much. I play speed waaagh orks so those boards would pretty much invalidate my army before I even roll a dice 😂...
I normally try not to be that guy, but if all the tournaments around me used terrain like that, I would be sorely tempted to show up to each one with artillery spam.
I started running this list myself but I swapped out the chimera command squad for creed and cadians. Plus the flyers went out for a shadow sword because damn fighting tanks sucked
Cool army, but I dont like new transports. Bring back rolling 6 to wound after destroying transport. Hey Hey Ho Ho, Invincible taxi need to go. As for demon battle, big monsters dont play objectives well.
Hi there! To my knowledge, he owns them, but they’re not fully built & painted to battle ready standards to be used for tournament according to the live streams I’m tuned in and as he might’ve mentioned whilst I’m editing the videos for him. I hope this answers your question :)
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Hey man I was your game 2 opponent at this event, learnt a lot from the game and sorry if it seemed I was frustrated (I was lol) but it wasnt directed at you, you were a great opponent, hope we play again sometime!
I’m so early others might see my plea for all infantry Tau! You’re the master of guard and running them in any style. You’ve tasted victory with Tau so I know you can run them as all infantry like your guard! Please sir! I won’t stop begging until I see it!
Kind of interested in this... I'll just pretend they are human conscripts guevasa or whatever the fuck
I've thought about this a lot and i finally ended up admitting that it won't work (most likely)
Don't get me wrong... You can definitely do it and have fun, but there's simply not enough support for this kind of list in T'au.
The problem of course mostly being the lack of durability while having no way of bringing units back on top. That and even with 3 pathfinders with rail rifles, 3x6 stealth suits with fusion blasters and shadowsun, you'll struggle dealing with heavy stuff. Breachers do work for sure, but they really like Devilfish (which goes against the whole infantry only idea).
You may be able to do it starting off with pathfinders, stealth suits, shadowsun and 3 20man kroot blobs with a shaper for screening, but i doubt there's enough there :/. Guard actually has much better tools to do it.
On another note, i don't think Mordian has near close enough to the models required to pull this of.
Edit: sample list
3 x breachers with fireblade (1 with exemplar)
3 x pathfinders (1 with darkstrider)
3 x 6 stealth suits
2 x strike team with ethereals (1 with through unity devastation)
3 x 20 kroot with kroot shapers
1 x 5 vespid
1 x Shadowsun
I'd love to see a tau infantry force, especially a kroot-heavy one. But where the hell would he find the models to build something like that?
@@theStamax your critiques are very valid and I do appreciate your thoughts. It would be quite difficult for him to field the models I’m sure but a man can dream a bit. So despite this I shall continue my pleas. Plus if nothing else it’d be a bit entertaining to see
Im super interested in this idea. Ive made mock up lists but im not a big tau player yet (unbuilt 2500 point army) i have no idea how to play them cause i main space marines
*Angron about to come back out of the warp*
Scions: "I heard what you did to Yarrick, son. You sure you want to do this again?"
*Angron slowly backs away*
I appreciate the hell out of narrative theme armies. My guard army is cadian tanith. My blood angels are never meta.
🥇
Need anything else?
Leutin for lore, Auspex for tactics and meta, Mordian for the battle/campaign reports.
I would pay for leutin to do a lore video on these battle reports…
My guy your forgetting the immortal baldermort
@@anhojghost8913 True
3:20 - Mordian says the most British thing he'll ever say on his Channel.
😂😂😂
Represent! I've been running 2x3 armored sents with lascannons with my scions... can't bring myself to bring the flyers sadly. Need the anti tank.
Great writeup!
Me opening this video with headphones on
Mordian: "HEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL-"
Me: "OW!!!"
I just wanted to add my approval of this kind of content. It feels like a lot of battle reports in one and we get to follow along the learning journey in "real life" (wh40k is only almost real)..
Thank you!
The Khorne army is beautiful.
Oh yay I'm the dedication!
Scions for lyfe!
This is easily the best content you do. Always enjoy your tournament reports 😊
I'm gonna be real, these tournament reports are literally the only 40k content I'm consuming right now. Absolutely love them and you smashing people with guard lists.
Me hearing free tea and cake was served, chef’s kiss
Currently watching this, you have a good way of telling a story!
I absolutely love these retrospective tournament reports!!! The outro music is amazing too!!! Please keeps ringing us more!!!
I've been playing Scions since 2018 thanks to this channel...I can say it's always a rollercoaster of emotions while playing with these boys but eveytime I come out having a blast!
Very fun video, I've been trying to make a 1000-point “Inquisition” list and one of the ways that's manifested most frequently was as a scion list, and this has given me some interesting things to think about.
Same. I’ve got a bunch of space marines, imperial agents, and scions and plan to add some knights.
I can’t wait for my Inquisitorial Flame Car (Hellhound proxy) to arrive. I figured this way, I’ll end up with 800+ points that can fill in any Imperium Army.
@@AgoristDryad hell yeah
Hey man, I didn’t get to play you at this tournament but love the list. I was the meme Custodes dreadnaught list middle of the table. Loving the videos as I build my Guard army, keep up the good work!
I wish I could be in The UK to play these tournaments but im in the states…”sigh” se la ve. But huge fan! Emperor protects!
fascinating report!
Loving hearing about your experiences with the scions, need to think about the anti tank problem now!
orks are feeling pretty powerful. I used my 1000 pts of orks for the first time. I won agaisnt an opponent that usually beats me when I use imperial guard.
Halelujah, the time is upon us!
Another tpurnament report
No use playing a surgical tool like a wrecking ball, Sah! But bravo, I applaud you victories and lambast you for your failures. For the Emperor!
Wow I love the ice demon army
noice video i can tell without even watching a second
A fit guardsmen lives a few seconds longer on the battlefield, eat your greens!
Khorne scheme is AMAZING
I absolutely love these after action tournament reports but I’ve noticed a trend of games not reaching past round 4 or even round 3. Is that a result of the army or is there a player element there? (That’s not an accusation - I’d like to take the Guard to a tournament next year but not if I never get to finish games!)
Actual list starts at 4:00
Hi Mordian, I was wondering if you could publish a video where you adapt your fully narrative themed lists to be more competitive while still maintaining the theme. For example, instead of Pure Scion you mix in some other guard that would be more competitive, while still maintaining the theme overall. Just a thought. Thank you, Ben from Canada
I have something planned like that in the future, as an editor for the channel! :)
Another Canadian on board as well!!
When you bring back a Scion squad via reinforcements strat, can you deep strike it or do you must set it as strategic reserve unit?
You can deep strike 👍🏾
Units in strategic reserves can always use deep strike if they have the rule
Can't help thinking if you brought a Demolisher and a Tank Commander with a Demolisher turret instead of the Vultures the Ork fight would have gone smoother. Great Bat Rep 💪
I really hope they dial the cost in fliers back by about 30-40 per unit. I really want to play my airborne Scions. I personally am not a fan of the tauroxes (taurexi?). I feel like valks with lascannons and hellstrikes add the right kind of punch to the list. I also think for Scions that the rocket/missile load out just fits better than the gatling guns. Especially since it can fire 2 hellstrikes per shooting phase. I would love to go triple Valk, triple vulture, battleline Scions and maybe a couple of the inquisitors (Coteaz and Draxus probably). Kind of a pipe dream though as long as those fliers are about 200 pts each.
Also one sad thing I noticed about the attachees is that the fleet commander only buffs things with aircraft. That means if you take any as hover, they lose aircraft and no longer synergize with him.
@25:46 Black Reach Nobs..... Old Ork Player..... :)
Arent the units that disembark from a destroyed transport automatically battle shocked and so wouldnt be able to control an objective?
I'm curious to hear how'd you improve this list after your experience. Maybe switch the double vultture for a Shadowsword :P ? Though considering the terrain, maybe 2~3 medium tanks?
PS: That frost themed demon army looks gorgeous.
I wonder if the tanks wouldn't become a liability. They wouldn't have the ability to strike the enemy where they were weakest. Maybe some of the forgeworld planes would fill it out better. Some of them are a lot cheaper than the Vultures, too.
1:28:40 So Angron got sulky and stare at the proverbial wall and left his army to die. How typical of him.
I'll be trying out this list which uses scions as the infantry:
LSL
3x Tempestus Command Squad
1 platoon command squad
3 enginseer
1x infantry squad (20 guys, 2 plasma, 2 mortar teams)
3 x 5 man Scion squads
3 taurox prime
3 leman russ battle tanks ( El classico)
1 exterminator
1 manticore
LOOOOVING ITT~
Question with the eldars , a unit can only be counted on one objective no ? No conga line to hold multiple objo
Krak missiles , I keep hoping they would be better one day. For pure scions though that is the only way.
Also it used to be we could hope on some melta guns, melta needs some buffing imo.
A meltagun within 6" of a vehicle needing a 5+ on 1 dice to do anything (in an edition with a lot of invulnerable saves as well) is nuts to me as a returning player.
Great write up again :) but for me personally thaf terrain is way to much. I play speed waaagh orks so those boards would pretty much invalidate my army before I even roll a dice 😂...
Don't play 40k anymore but always check in whenever you do scions (my last true army). Got to say though UKTC terrain...looks like ass.
I normally try not to be that guy, but if all the tournaments around me used terrain like that, I would be sorely tempted to show up to each one with artillery spam.
Its funny , when you talk about your conclusions, its remind me very 9ed genestealer cult shooty list style of gaming plan and targeting/buff ect
Great report! Is the battle cannon on the taurox not a better pick?
Probably not. It shares the slot with the missile launcher which is vastly superior in most cases
Hmmm, is it possible to have toughness 6 Guardsmen/Scions?
I started running this list myself but I swapped out the chimera command squad for creed and cadians. Plus the flyers went out for a shadow sword because damn fighting tanks sucked
Can you take more than 3 taurox primes?
they're dedicated transports so you can bring 6.
You can take more than 3 (6 is the max) if you’re taking 6 appropriate battle line units
What's the tune starting 1.31.40
In the walls you say?
Seeing monster mash demons lose is always a pleasure
You give me a salad when I am playing 40k....My guys are getting some extra camo
Cool army, but I dont like new transports.
Bring back rolling 6 to wound after destroying transport. Hey Hey Ho Ho, Invincible taxi need to go.
As for demon battle, big monsters dont play objectives well.
Where's the link to the list?
Sounds like you've accidently recreated the LRDPG from WW2.
🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙 approved
Great? maybe atleast paint the terrain?
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MG love all the vids! Just wondering why i am not seeing Gaunts Ghosts in any lists? Seem pretty auto include at 100 pts
Hi there! To my knowledge, he owns them, but they’re not fully built & painted to battle ready standards to be used for tournament according to the live streams I’m tuned in and as he might’ve mentioned whilst I’m editing the videos for him. I hope this answers your question :)
@@DeathKorpsOfWrath makes sense. Doing God's work editing! Keep it up
A dude won a tournament this weekend with ghosts in his list. Winchester GT in the UK (28 oct)