Gday Andrew, the governor looks absolutely beautiful, great work and the spring is perfect by the looks, throughly enjoyed once again and thank you for sharing, cheers Matty
The governor looks very good. I like the brass balls. I will get some for the governor on my beam engine. The idea of heating hardened steel bearings for 10 minutes so that they can be drilled does not appeal. Heart stopping moment when you were parting off. The camera angle made it look as though the arms were going to hit the tool post. That would have been messy. Very glad to see it drop off with no damage done. Phew! Into the final stages now. Can't be too much more to do other than the flywheels and painting.
Thanks Tim - yeah still a few little challenges - flywheels, fuel mixer, ignition, fuel tank, painting - and of course trying to work out why it doesn't run! Hopefully I will get there sometime! Cheers Andrew
Well done Andrew. A bit of advice when soldering, you were losing a lot of heat, stick some firebricks around the part and you will get the heat reflected back. Also too you had the flame too close and you had the cold part of the cone ( blue ) touching the brass. Move it further back as the hottest part of the flame is the front point.
Thanks Robert - I hadn't realised how much effort this Farm Boy would need. It's a great learning experience for me though - I just hope I can get it to run after spending all this time on it! All the best. Andrew
Hi Dave - yeah, I've caught the small engine making bug (not Covid thankfully). Not enough hours in the day! I must catch up with your channel! Hope you are well and have a great Christmas. Our family Christmas will now have to be postponed until spring. All the best. Andrew
Thanks Jeremy. It would certainly be helpful including some additional dimensions, rather than having to work them out using trig. I hope your Farm Boy is progressing well. All the best. Andrew
I know this is now an old video and well presented which is why I am going to build one. At 25:30 the centre of the hole you have worked out at 0.011" over, Not sure but on my plans it does state that this should be 0.375 so maybe they have added this measurement. Great build all the same should start mine after Christmas if house decorating does not get in the way LOL. I was going to soft solder mine together but superglue seems to have done the trick for you
@@learningturningmetal Bugger got the time wrong sorry that should have read about 3:08 I am loosing the plot some days. I have spent many evening going over the plans preparing for the build
@@diggerdelaney ha ha. I think I lost the plot too when doing the calculations. To determine the height of the stock I should have just added .375 to .125. Good news is I was only 11 thou out on a non-critical dimensions. Thanks for questioning it. Cheers Andrew
Great job Andrew. I just finished machining the final parts today (the oilers) and just need to make that same spring. I've also built and bench tested the ignition system and all works fine. Just need to make a wooden base and then I'll be ready for final assembly. If you haven't bought the three o-rings yet let me know and I'll mail you some (I bought 100 of each size, most of which I'll never use).
Thanks Tony. It looks like you are nearly there! You must be getting excited! Thanks for the offer of the o-rings, but I bought some a few months ago. What type of ignition system did you decide upon? My Farm Boy is #800 - what is yours? All the best. Andrew
Hi Tony - I've just had a thought - wonders never cease! If you want me to make you a spring, similar to the one I made, it's not a problem. It might not be perfect but it might get you started. If so, just email me your address at learningturningmetal@gmail.com and I'll make one (when my lathe is freed up) and bob it in the post. Cheers Andrew
I bought the TM-6 kit from Jerry Howell's site and added a second hall effect switch that I already had. I also bought the ignition coil from there but since found these are just used on ATVs and can be found at low prices on Ebay.
@@learningturningmetal Thanks for the offer Andrew. I need the practice and I have the music wire so I'll make a spring. I may have another go at the valve springs too. My engine is #673. I bought the plans about three years ago but didn't start the project until this year. Cheers!
Nice work as always Andrew! Good to see the progress,even as life gets in the way. Busy time of the year. Happy holidays if we don’t see you before the years end.
I wondered where you'd gone! ;) Governor looks like it's working nicely. I would think 500 RPM is a reasonable speed to shoot for with the Farm Boy, as it has quite large, heavy flywheels. You can always tweak it later.
Thanks mate - glad you think 500 is reasonable. Yeah - those flywheels are going to be really heavy. I fabricated the crankshaft and used loctite 638 with pins. I received a comment recently from someone who said that his fabricated crankshaft failed due to the large forces involved. I hope mine will be strong enough. All the best. Andrew
Thanks for the reply. I silver soldered the crank for my (smaller) engine and it was a fraught experience. Plenty of people seem to advocate / use Loctite - You've used pins and made a good job of it, so I'm sure it'll be OK... (You can always make another one if it isn't! :D )
Thanks mate - yeah - I guessed! I'm currently in the process of machining the governor side flywheel and I will try a test fit on that. My thoughts are that the spring might not be long enough. The drawing also shows a spring with many turns. I think it might be a matter of experimenting when the engine is complete. Cheers Andrew
Really nice to hear from You Andrew and knowing You're "up and running"! Thanks for a relly greate video, taking You lots of time producing and editing! At the time 05:26 You've clamped two pieces in the vise? That would be "against all rules". One part is clamped well and the other less well. What do I miss? Time 14:17, just before silver soldering. How did You make the setup, positioning those two peaces left to right? I guess that's important. Why the spring to the governor? Why will it not be running vertically using gravity as the force?
Hi Stefan - the two pieces in the vice had been super-glued together. Not sure what you mean regarding setup. The design of the Farm Boy has the governor running horizontally - so gravity is out of the equation. All the best. Andrew
@@learningturningmetal Brilliant, gueing them together. You never use soldering? How did You position the 2 pieces in the correct place horisontaly, sideways, centered, at time 14:17, just before soldering them?
Hi i love your videos and thank you for doing them it's very helpful!!! I would like to ask you what model is your mill?,Because i want to buy one and i think taht one could be prfectly enough for me. Thank you!
Hi Jake. I got the collet chuck from arc euro trade. Part number 050-110-40600. I got a fantastic set of collets from associated production tools ltd. Description is: ER40 24 Piece Collet Set 3-26mm 0.010mm Runout. It's a great combination on the sc4 lathe. Cheers Andrew
Hi Andrew, You made the comment at the beginning that the drawing of the fulcrum was lacking in dimensions. This is not the case. All the dimensions you needed were there. The ones that were "missing" you calculated from the ones that were there and therefore were not missing at all but redundant so were omitted from the drawing . With engineering drawings the practise of putting on too many dimensions is known as over-dimensioning and is generally discouraged.
Hi Terry - thanks for the info. I agree with what you are saying and over-dimensioning isn't good practice. But why make life more complicated for the machinist? All the best. Andrew
Good to see you back, which Christmas did you hope to complete the Farm Boy! i am following in your footsteps with my build albeit still got some catching up to do. Ive been trying to find 5/8" brass balls but can only find 1/2" - i would appreciate it if you could let us know which Ebay seller you found yours from... and great job this part worked out well!
Ha ha Andy - Christmas 2022 of course! You had me thinking for a while regarding the brass balls! I've just remembered that I actually got them via Amazon. Check out this link: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0848SKLDJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I think they were shipped from China, so it took a while for them to arrive. It says they are brass, but look more like bronze to me. Hope that helps. Andrew
Ha ha. Believe it or not it was actually my first attempt at making that spring. I've not seen any pictures of one, and I just took a punt. I can't believe it myself! Cheers Andrew
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Excellent engineering the governor came out not only looking good but working well to thanks for making the video
The famous _other things..._ the curse of retirement, good to see you again!
Yeah - I can't imagine how I managed to keep a full time job!
Cheers
Andrew
Gday Andrew, the governor looks absolutely beautiful, great work and the spring is perfect by the looks, throughly enjoyed once again and thank you for sharing, cheers Matty
Hey - thanks Matty.
All the best.
Andrew
Very clever work in testing the governor spring on the lathe. Looking forward to the next video. Cheers from Texas.
Hi Christian - A eureka moment for me!
All the best.
Andrew
The governor looks very good. I like the brass balls. I will get some for the governor on my beam engine. The idea of heating hardened steel bearings for 10 minutes so that they can be drilled does not appeal. Heart stopping moment when you were parting off. The camera angle made it look as though the arms were going to hit the tool post. That would have been messy. Very glad to see it drop off with no damage done. Phew! Into the final stages now. Can't be too much more to do other than the flywheels and painting.
Thanks Tim - yeah still a few little challenges - flywheels, fuel mixer, ignition, fuel tank, painting - and of course trying to work out why it doesn't run! Hopefully I will get there sometime!
Cheers
Andrew
Tip: When you part something on the lathe if there is a middle hole you can put something there to catch it when it separates
great job Sir
Thanks mate!
Hi Andrew, nice work as usual. I think I would have put a length of tube under the ball just in case it decided to make a downward decent.
Thanks Steve - yeah very good idea! Maybe I will remember for next time!
Cheers
Andrew
Very nice Andrew, thanks for sharing this project with us.
Thanks Wes!
All the best.
Andrew
Great work Andrew. That governor looks very nice. The springs looks as though its right on the money. Regards Kevin
Thanks Kevin - I need to catch up on your flywheel machining for your Kerzel!
Cheers
Andrew
Well done Andrew. A bit of advice when soldering, you were losing a lot of heat, stick some firebricks around the part and you will get the heat reflected back. Also too you had the flame too close and you had the cold part of the cone ( blue ) touching the brass. Move it further back as the hottest part of the flame is the front point.
Hi Dave - great advice as usual. I'm gradually getting to grips with silver soldering and all tips are welcome.
Take care mate.
Andrew
Great job Andrew. The project is coming together well.
Thanks Robert - I hadn't realised how much effort this Farm Boy would need. It's a great learning experience for me though - I just hope I can get it to run after spending all this time on it!
All the best.
Andrew
Haven't watched your channel for some time and wow you have come a long way! Nice new mill..
Hi Dave - yeah, I've caught the small engine making bug (not Covid thankfully). Not enough hours in the day! I must catch up with your channel!
Hope you are well and have a great Christmas. Our family Christmas will now have to be postponed until spring.
All the best.
Andrew
Good to see you back Andrew! I'm working on a farm boy also and I agree the drawings leave a lot to be desired.
Thanks Jeremy. It would certainly be helpful including some additional dimensions, rather than having to work them out using trig.
I hope your Farm Boy is progressing well.
All the best.
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
Nice work as always...
Take care
Paul,,
Thanks Paul - you take care too mate!
All the best.
Andrew
I know this is now an old video and well presented which is why I am going to build one. At 25:30 the centre of the hole you have worked out at 0.011" over, Not sure but on my plans it does state that this should be 0.375 so maybe they have added this measurement. Great build all the same should start mine after Christmas if house decorating does not get in the way LOL. I was going to soft solder mine together but superglue seems to have done the trick for you
Hi - I'm not sure what you are referring to cos 25:30 is the end of the video. Good luck with the decorating!
@@learningturningmetal Bugger got the time wrong sorry that should have read about 3:08 I am loosing the plot some days. I have spent many evening going over the plans preparing for the build
@@diggerdelaney ha ha. I think I lost the plot too when doing the calculations. To determine the height of the stock I should have just added .375 to .125. Good news is I was only 11 thou out on a non-critical dimensions. Thanks for questioning it.
Cheers
Andrew
Outstanding job
Cheers Kimberzelik!
G’day Andrew, well done.
Cheers
Peter
Thanks Peter.
Cheers
Andrew
It was time Andrew...... 😉
Nice work!
Thanks mate - I just hope it's not another 5-6 weeks before the next one!
Cheers
Andrew
Great job Andrew. I just finished machining the final parts today (the oilers) and just need to make that same spring. I've also built and bench tested the ignition system and all works fine. Just need to make a wooden base and then I'll be ready for final assembly. If you haven't bought the three o-rings yet let me know and I'll mail you some (I bought 100 of each size, most of which I'll never use).
Thanks Tony. It looks like you are nearly there! You must be getting excited! Thanks for the offer of the o-rings, but I bought some a few months ago. What type of ignition system did you decide upon? My Farm Boy is #800 - what is yours?
All the best.
Andrew
Hi Tony - I've just had a thought - wonders never cease! If you want me to make you a spring, similar to the one I made, it's not a problem. It might not be perfect but it might get you started. If so, just email me your address at learningturningmetal@gmail.com and I'll make one (when my lathe is freed up) and bob it in the post.
Cheers
Andrew
I bought the TM-6 kit from Jerry Howell's site and added a second hall effect switch that I already had. I also bought the ignition coil from there but since found these are just used on ATVs and can be found at low prices on Ebay.
@@learningturningmetal Thanks for the offer Andrew. I need the practice and I have the music wire so I'll make a spring. I may have another go at the valve springs too. My engine is #673. I bought the plans about three years ago but didn't start the project until this year. Cheers!
Thanks for the info Tony. You must be like me - hard to turn down a challenge! It's satisfying learning new techniques.
All the best.
Andrew
Nice work as always Andrew! Good to see the progress,even as life gets in the way. Busy time of the year. Happy holidays if we don’t see you before the years end.
Thanks John. I hope you have a good Christmas too.
All the best.
Andrew
Coming on nicely.
Slowwwwwly but surely.
All the best.
Andrew
Wow!! How lucky are you?
Hope you have done the lottery this week. 😎
Darn - I should have bought one yesterday! I bet my luck has run out by now.
All the best.
Andrew
I wondered where you'd gone! ;) Governor looks like it's working nicely. I would think 500 RPM is a reasonable speed to shoot for with the Farm Boy, as it has quite large, heavy flywheels. You can always tweak it later.
Thanks mate - glad you think 500 is reasonable. Yeah - those flywheels are going to be really heavy. I fabricated the crankshaft and used loctite 638 with pins. I received a comment recently from someone who said that his fabricated crankshaft failed due to the large forces involved. I hope mine will be strong enough.
All the best.
Andrew
Thanks for the reply. I silver soldered the crank for my (smaller) engine and it was a fraught experience. Plenty of people seem to advocate / use Loctite - You've used pins and made a good job of it, so I'm sure it'll be OK... (You can always make another one if it isn't! :D )
Welcome back Andrew !
Cheers Mike!
All the best.
Andrew
Good to see your back :)
ATB
Adam
Thanks Adam.
ATB
Andrew
Liked how you did the spring! Did you just guess at the number of turns or use a formula?
Thanks mate - yeah - I guessed! I'm currently in the process of machining the governor side flywheel and I will try a test fit on that. My thoughts are that the spring might not be long enough. The drawing also shows a spring with many turns. I think it might be a matter of experimenting when the engine is complete.
Cheers
Andrew
Really nice to hear from You Andrew and knowing You're "up and running"!
Thanks for a relly greate video, taking You lots of time producing and editing!
At the time 05:26 You've clamped two pieces in the vise? That would be "against all rules". One part is clamped well and the other less well. What do I miss?
Time 14:17, just before silver soldering. How did You make the setup, positioning those two peaces left to right? I guess that's important.
Why the spring to the governor? Why will it not be running vertically using gravity as the force?
Hi Stefan - the two pieces in the vice had been super-glued together. Not sure what you mean regarding setup.
The design of the Farm Boy has the governor running horizontally - so gravity is out of the equation.
All the best.
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal Brilliant, gueing them together. You never use soldering?
How did You position the 2 pieces in the correct place horisontaly, sideways, centered, at time 14:17, just before soldering them?
Hi Stephan - they were just a nice sliding fit into the grooves I had milled earlier.
Cheers
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal In the vertical aspect, yes. What about the horizontal respect?. One could slide "here" and the other slide "there"....
Hi Stefan - I used a couple of pieces of rod which held both pieces symmetrical.
Cheers
Andrew
Hi i love your videos and thank you for doing them it's very helpful!!! I would like to ask you what model is your mill?,Because i want to buy one and i think taht one could be prfectly enough for me. Thank you!
Oh...I see now in another video...😀
Hi Andrew, where did you get the er collet chuck for your lathe? I have the same lathe, loving this series! Cant wait to see it run
Hi Jake. I got the collet chuck from arc euro trade. Part number 050-110-40600. I got a fantastic set of collets from associated production tools ltd. Description is: ER40 24 Piece Collet Set 3-26mm 0.010mm Runout. It's a great combination on the sc4 lathe.
Cheers
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal Thankyou andrew
This regulator requires an increased frictional force. This will remove the self vibration.
Hi Andrew, You made the comment at the beginning that the drawing of the fulcrum was lacking in dimensions. This is not the case. All the dimensions you needed were there. The ones that were "missing" you calculated from the ones that were there and therefore were not missing at all but redundant so were omitted from the drawing . With engineering drawings the practise of putting on too many dimensions is known as over-dimensioning and is generally discouraged.
Hi Terry - thanks for the info. I agree with what you are saying and over-dimensioning isn't good practice. But why make life more complicated for the machinist?
All the best.
Andrew
Good to see you back, which Christmas did you hope to complete the Farm Boy! i am following in your footsteps with my build albeit still got some catching up to do. Ive been trying to find 5/8" brass balls but can only find 1/2" - i would appreciate it if you could let us know which Ebay seller you found yours from... and great job this part worked out well!
Ha ha Andy - Christmas 2022 of course! You had me thinking for a while regarding the brass balls! I've just remembered that I actually got them via Amazon.
Check out this link:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0848SKLDJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think they were shipped from China, so it took a while for them to arrive. It says they are brass, but look more like bronze to me.
Hope that helps.
Andrew
You have to have brass balls to make this part.🤣Was that really the first spring that you made and it worked?
Ha ha. Believe it or not it was actually my first attempt at making that spring. I've not seen any pictures of one, and I just took a punt.
I can't believe it myself!
Cheers
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal A good player is often lucky they say in sports.....
Nice. Thanks.
Cheers John.
All the best.
Andrew