GWR Class 800 & 802 units departing Didcot on electric power

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  • On the 16/01/2018, my friend managed to film a GWR Class 800 BMU arriving on diesel power and departing Didcot Parkway on electric power on a London bound passenger service. My friend also managed to film a GWR class 802 BMU on a test run also departing Didcot Parkway on electric power on the same day.

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  • @Simonwebberpastpresentrailways
    @Simonwebberpastpresentrailways 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Amazing how quick they can change from diesel to electric great catch

    • @ajverma775
      @ajverma775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a an old process applied back in 90s

  • @aviation62yt39
    @aviation62yt39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:32 Love That Sound

  • @TheCheekyChilterner
    @TheCheekyChilterner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It is amazing to know that a train can use both electric and diesel

    • @Cazkumali
      @Cazkumali 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes it's Awesome that these trains can run on Diesel and Electric Power and when Virgin East Coast gets em and when there's a diversion that involves running Lines that are not Electrified they can switch to Diesel Before going onto the Diversion and Back to Electric after the diversions finished

  • @CaptainTransit
    @CaptainTransit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man, that traction motor sound is just smashing!

    • @bfapple
      @bfapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Captain Transit *Motor inverter

    • @G_Diddler
      @G_Diddler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bfapple what are the differences between those two

    • @bfapple
      @bfapple 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@G_Diddler The inverter converts DC (which the train systems use) to three-phase AC. It’s the inverters that generate the high frequency sound.

    • @G_Diddler
      @G_Diddler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bfapple oh right thanks

    • @indra144
      @indra144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bfapple also can be called as VVVF

  • @simoneames9097
    @simoneames9097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    The 800s preform better under electric power. As they depart, they clear the station like a Victoria Line train.

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      simon eames and central line

    • @iman2341
      @iman2341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would have been even better without several tonnes of diesel engines to lug around.

    • @railperf
      @railperf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      An 802 could be quicker without the Diesel engines, but the 800's are subject to a software imposed acceleration curve to meet DfT specification. That's why the 802's are quicker in electric mode than plain 800's, despite both having almost identical equipment.

    • @bfapple
      @bfapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      railperf How do you know that? The Class 800, 801 and 802 have the exact same motor specification....

    • @bb-3653
      @bb-3653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you have the 395, which seem to be an unbeaten High speed train in terms of acceleration.. I mean among the trains that go over 120mph. Despite being over 6 years older than 800s...their just far better at speed.

  • @MarioStahl1983
    @MarioStahl1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    YEAH!!! E L E C T R I F I C A T I O N !!! I'm all for it! For too many years British railways were almost "dieselized to death". TIME TO RAISE THE PANTOGRAPH!! 😊

    • @UNIX32
      @UNIX32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or lower the shoe if it's third rail.

    • @MarioStahl1983
      @MarioStahl1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UNIX32 😂 Sure! But I doubt that any NEW third rial electrification schemes will be done. B

    • @maimadha
      @maimadha ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarioStahl1983 electrification is grossly engineered

  • @user-hu8zu7dq6w
    @user-hu8zu7dq6w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh the way it casually flicks that thing up and that sweet electric hum... like music to my ears.
    Why on earth haven't CrossCountry got these on order? It's is a travesty, so many miles of diesel under the wire...

    • @bfapple
      @bfapple 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If CrossCountry did order AT300s now, people would be moaning about the Voyagers going to scrap too early...

    • @holnrew
      @holnrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Voyagers are awful and can't get scrapped soon enough

    • @OwainsTrains
      @OwainsTrains 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the HSTs would most likely retired and scrapped. It’s just ease of convenience because most of the lines that CrossCountry operate on is diesel.

    • @prime6134
      @prime6134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voyagers are still useful idk why people hate them

  • @gabrielstravels
    @gabrielstravels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love IETs! One of my favourite trains across the whole British rail network!

  • @HST_Productions
    @HST_Productions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Well at least the electrification project has reached some stage :I
    Also towards the end of the video, i'm a fan of electronic hums, those electrostars have a nice one :)

    • @simoneames9097
      @simoneames9097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hornorably Spotting Trains I like electronic hums as well. My favourite would the sounds of Class 365s.

    • @Owencr905
      @Owencr905 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would like to see these is train sim world for the great western line

    • @nightelectricityuniverse7349
      @nightelectricityuniverse7349 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Owencr905 I agree. I love the hum.

    • @PanosSkarp
      @PanosSkarp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like electronic hums too. I thought I was the only one! In fact I prefer them from diesel

    • @profmargins
      @profmargins 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope electrification teaches penzance, Cheltenham, Hereford, Basingstoke and GWR start services to Birmingham from paddington

  • @Aviationfan2022
    @Aviationfan2022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:29 and 2:28 such beautiful sound from the 2 IETs

  • @jakejonson878
    @jakejonson878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like it when they depart they make a nice humming sort of sound

  • @Great_WesternTVFan
    @Great_WesternTVFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way they depart on electric mode is like the Central, Victoria and Jubilee lines

  • @DIDCOTTWIST
    @DIDCOTTWIST 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I got on one from Didcot to London Paddington in February I felt a bit queezy as it accelerated out of the station.

  • @Frostie3672
    @Frostie3672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wicked acceleration under electric power, just a shame in the part of the country where I get to travel on them in the west country they're running under diesel power although the acceleration is still faster than the hst.
    The IET can't compete with the old hst valenta though when it comes to noise :)

  • @sebastiangoddard1717
    @sebastiangoddard1717 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like the fact that it sounds like a 1996 TS stock!

    • @nightelectricityuniverse7349
      @nightelectricityuniverse7349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True except the take off pitch is A for the train. The jubilee line takes off with a D pitch whine which is similar to the class 465s and 365s. I have a feeling the traction style is either GTO or IGBT. I can't tell. 😕

    • @lv-ag6129
      @lv-ag6129 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In My Opinion! The Train Sounds Alot Like A Scotrail Class 385

    • @dominicfindlay
      @dominicfindlay 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lv-ag6129 made by same company

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sabestian Goddard that's because the 465, 365 and the 1996 stock trains are all made by Alstom

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating change-cover, but there seemed to be a softer residual diesel noise after it changed to overhead and the main engine noise stopped...

    • @EdPMur
      @EdPMur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read in another comment that it may be an engine cool down before it shuts off

  • @garethbisgrove4482
    @garethbisgrove4482 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Underwhelming' is the word!

  • @owenchuarbx
    @owenchuarbx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like the 800-802s are couple compatible. Can't wait to see a 10 car working between a 802 unit and a 800 unit

  • @nleak92
    @nleak92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope train sim world 2 introduces the class 800 soon

  • @racerja3173
    @racerja3173 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Diesel to electric is great I just like the sound of that electrified sounds when it leaves my train is electrified but instead of overhead lines it has a third rail

  • @channelnotinuse4078
    @channelnotinuse4078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool

  • @liamsellick6664
    @liamsellick6664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the change over automatic does the driver get prompted does anyone know? I could imagine doing a route realising at the end o crap I didn’t put the pantograph up

  • @kyle123481
    @kyle123481 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video- Kyle

  • @Isochest
    @Isochest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any electric goods trains yet on the GWR main line?

  • @maximo0987
    @maximo0987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you can’t handle me at my *vroom vroom vroom*
    you don’t deserve me at my *nyeeeeeeeeeeow*

  • @kayserbondor
    @kayserbondor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wondering why Euro countries gantry set up appears much simpler than those in UK. Maybe they would have been a lot further with simpler set up.

    • @fuzzynutter8344
      @fuzzynutter8344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are many lines in the UK whose overhead power supply have a cleaner, simpler set-up. But for whatever reason this was not used for the Great Western Mainline, which has caused much controversy, especially in AONB or similarly protected areas like the Goring Gap. The equipment used for the Great Western Mainline looks awful IMO.

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's based on Swiss wiring and is designed for 140mph with multiple pans up. It's also over engineered because of the experience on the under engineered ECML

  • @russouk
    @russouk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was probably swansea to padd...now though its electric from cardiff to padd.....soon to be swnsea too..iirc they have decided to electrify it to swansea. they can accelerate like mad the 800`s

  • @carolpendolino7081
    @carolpendolino7081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I seen 1of those trains it Glasgow Central what a smart train

  • @fuzzynutter8344
    @fuzzynutter8344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a reason why the Class 800s aren't fitted with plug doors? Apart from looking ugly, these trains aren't being used on the type of services where sliding doors are more advantageous. More so when the doors on the Class 800 are single leaf and are at the ends of each carriage.

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's the same design as on the bullet trains in Japan

  • @TheRailwayDrone
    @TheRailwayDrone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOSH we need these here in America. Amtrak? Hello?

  • @darrenfitch
    @darrenfitch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    DFT Claim these trains have made significant progress over the hst's that they are to replace. Beats me how they have come to that conclusion after the speed run test from Paddington to Reading proved that iep is slower than hst. Hst retaining its speed record even though iep had clearer run than hst and was on entirely electric... Progress??? How??

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Previous HST records will have been exceeding the 125 limit (it was common practice until Black Boxes were mandated)

    • @wharris302
      @wharris302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would really like to know how a Hst is faster than this, considering it takes a HST a WHOLE TEN MINUTES to reach 125....800s on electric does that in only 2 and half minutes, diesel is around 4

  • @LF-zp5df
    @LF-zp5df 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Personally not a fan of the IETs but great video anyways

    • @millercool21
      @millercool21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only good things are the looks sound

  • @K-o-R
    @K-o-R 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not quite as cool a sound as the 395 on AC but still very nice.

  • @70humdinger94
    @70humdinger94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can the pantograph be raised or lowered while the train is in motion?

    • @doomotron6160
      @doomotron6160 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably, the Class 88s can.

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they should be able to change at 125mph, though in the first phase when they were changing at Maidenhead they were slowing to 100mph for the change.

    • @gabrielstravels
      @gabrielstravels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      70humindger Yes. Although they normally tend to slow down in order for that happen (at least that's the case on the London-Worcester/Hereford line between Reading and Oxford)
      EDIT: Also the case on London-Bristol Temple Meads trains via Bath Spa, trains get slowed down for transition between the modes on approach/leaving Chippenham (end/beginning of electrification)

  • @celovity_747
    @celovity_747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like a Class 385!

    • @russouk
      @russouk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      uses same cummins electrics as them and the 350 s and a few others.

    • @Great_WesternTVFan
      @Great_WesternTVFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the R188 NYC trains

  • @ste9206
    @ste9206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why do diesel engines not shut down when the panthograph is up?

    • @LF-zp5df
      @LF-zp5df 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ste9206 they do

    • @railotaku
      @railotaku 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It sounds like they go to idle initially, which my be a cool down thing (run the engine at idle for a minute then shut off) - it does sound that by the time the second set is passing they have shut off

    • @DevonDumpling70
      @DevonDumpling70 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a cool down of the engines and then they shut down. You only stop them abruptly in an emergency.

    • @xm3405
      @xm3405 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No the sound was coming from a 165 on the other platform lol facepalm

    • @morgz84
      @morgz84 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did wonder, highly possible! But GJF's answer makes sense. I look forward to seeing them depart with no diesel on at all. God I love the sound of that coil oscillation, so satisfying!

  • @MS46532
    @MS46532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    when you hear it depart it sound like CRH in china. You know the one that looks like ICE.

    • @susfranzliszt
      @susfranzliszt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MARIO SONIC how?

    • @MS46532
      @MS46532 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jayden IceCream does almost sound like it.

  • @MS46532
    @MS46532 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice spot

  • @TIMBOWERMAN
    @TIMBOWERMAN 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm no fan of IETs, they have no restaurant cars or buffet cars; these are interurban trains,and GWR is committed to Pullmans, these are for first class passengers who will have no compunction about using a car which is environment unfriendly, also Azumas going from London on LNER to Edinburgh will be slaughtered by Pendolinos operated ironically by LMS.

  • @originalxjack
    @originalxjack 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend managed to film it in leeds its on my channel check it out!!

  • @cragoolia3782
    @cragoolia3782 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was no class 802. It was simply a double 800 as always.

    • @gabrielstravels
      @gabrielstravels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Craig Newell Actually, the difference between 800s and 802s is that 802s have bigger engines in order to be able to cope with the tougher geographical conditions in Devon and Cornwall

  • @0ki7o
    @0ki7o 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The motor has the same pitch as the ones in Japan

    • @the_cortelyou_boi
      @the_cortelyou_boi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The train is built in Japan, in fact

    • @indra144
      @indra144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      based from E233-3000

  • @user-fo8qz7cf9h
    @user-fo8qz7cf9h 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    British green

  • @moreton61
    @moreton61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A couple of nice trains the rest of their rail stock is on its last legs. So sick of hearing your train is delayed due to a fault on this train grrr! Generally late everyday plus not had a good clean in decades check out the brown stuff on the headrests next time you use one 😣

  • @EM-yk1dw
    @EM-yk1dw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nasty mobile offices. The GW electrification is a waste of money now Oxford and Swansea have been shelved. It would have made more sense to electrify the MML as it is self contained. All that performance just to run these nasty things.

  • @jameshennighan8193
    @jameshennighan8193 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The land of the ugly, cluttered and unsightly railway and platform ends.........all at vast costs when cheaper alternatives could have been considered.
    James Hennighan
    Yorkshire, England