Who were the Cuman-Kipchaks?

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 816

  • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
    @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Proper captions have now been added to this video, in case you wanted more text on screen.
    The Cuman-Kipchak tribes played an important role in the history of the western Mongol Empire, but like many of this period, are not looked at on their own. Here, we have a look at their potential origins and influence.
    Note that Cumans would act as mercenaries in Eastern Europe for some time after 1240, which you see, from what I understand, in the recent video game Kingdom Come: Deliverance, which I have never played. Cuman communities settled in Hungary and today still recognize themselves as Cumans, though have long since sedenterized, Christianized and adopted Hungarian.

    • @НурсултанАскаров-й7о
      @НурсултанАскаров-й7о 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kipchak is one of the tribes inside Kazakh nation

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      While researching this topic, I found a video from 'Kazakh TV' on TH-cam, which looked at the Desht-i Qipchaq. It was made by Kazakhs, and it was very cool to see that they saw the Qipchaq as their direct ancestors. I imagine there must be real pride to feel such immediate connection with your ancestors going back centuries. Living in Canada, separated from my family's ancestral homeland, and traditions, it is hard to not feel jealous at that identity.

    • @Man-nx4ig
      @Man-nx4ig 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please read my two comments to your video. Otherwise this is a very good video, but take a look at what I said in my comments as it is really important

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello! I just want you to know that I've seen your comments, but I don't have time yet to read them fully or respond. I will try to do so in the next day or so, if that is ok. I think you have good points, so I don't want you to think I am ignoring them. Cheers!

    • @rentabullet4048
      @rentabullet4048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is name of the music pls

  • @dctdct6142
    @dctdct6142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    I’m a Karachai and we are Kipchak too. I have Kazakh friends and we can understand each others in our native languages. Salem to all Turkic people.

  • @michaeltheisen
    @michaeltheisen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    Damn Sigismund and his Cuman horde. This is for Skalitz! *stabs*

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      I think you're somehow actually the first person in these comments to reference Kingdom Come.

    • @nmac1563
      @nmac1563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Love that game.

    • @pill1154
      @pill1154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      When I was searching for ancient treasure map 4 I saw 6 bandits fighting 12 cumans, I was watching for a bit until the cumans started chasing me.

    • @beurteilung713
      @beurteilung713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Unpopular opinion here, but i actually don't hate the Cumans in the game. I know that it is fitting for Henry's character background p to hate the Cumans, but honestly Henry seems like he wants to hate the people who killed his parents, but just can't bring himself to have that hatred. Cumans are people, who have families, dreams, ambitions, etc.

    • @gastonhitw720
      @gastonhitw720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1st time in a game we can see the cumans well made

  • @arghunpride5704
    @arghunpride5704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs, Nogays, Karakalpaks, Bashkirs, Tatars are related to Kipchaks. Most of modern people of Kazakhstan are descendants of Kipchaks.
    Some of western Kipchaks/Cumans migrated and assimilated in Hungary, Bulgaria, Crimea and north Caucasus.

    • @YushaKozaki
      @YushaKozaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And Cossacks?

    • @keeganmoonshine7183
      @keeganmoonshine7183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      many cumans became hungarian nobles and assimilated into hungarian culture.

    • @stillsickkk
      @stillsickkk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also, some of the Kipchaks/Cumans went to Thrace through the Russian steppes and mixed with Anatolian Turkmens who got replaced from Anatolia to Thrace.

    • @wargreysama
      @wargreysama 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@stillsickkk They also come to the Eastern Anatolia. My dad's village has Cuman/Kipchak graves with balbals buried underground (apparently due to earthquakes and such).

    • @mrtaltn639
      @mrtaltn639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Also some Turkic groups from North Caucasus such as Kumyks, Balkars, Karachays.

  • @matthewsmith1779
    @matthewsmith1779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    The reason why the Cuman were sought after so ruthlessly by the Mongols is because when the Mongols united the tribes in the east, they declared all step nomads were under the hegemony of the Mongol Khan.
    In the eyes of the Mongols, the fact they resisted Mongol rule made them rebels. And rebels weren't tolerated in the Mongol Empire.

    • @hxcvocalist
      @hxcvocalist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I really love their little interactions with Subutai and his troops right after the crossed the Caucasus Mountains. How they were bribed, tricked and slaughtered while retreating. How vegeance drove the survivors to ask Rus principalties and were later slaughtered again, because of their hatred. Kings and Generals serie on the mongol invasion, especially their incusion into Europe is fascinating.

    • @thekhans2823
      @thekhans2823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hxcvocalist yes

    • @jimland4359
      @jimland4359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The Mongols just wanted to know why the Cumans could make two town centers in the Feudal Age.

    • @huseyinylmaz3030
      @huseyinylmaz3030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Common goal of all Medieval Turk and Mongol Khans was uniting all tribes under one flag. Genghis Khan maneged to unite most of the tribes but not all of them. Even like %80 unity made Genghis' Empire devistatingly powerful. There is one Khan in history that united all tribes %100. Modu Chanyu aka Oghuz Khan of Turks.

    • @serafintanaleon3182
      @serafintanaleon3182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimland4359 😂

  • @luigisgl2639
    @luigisgl2639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Brought here by age of empires 2 DE

    • @karlmax6673
      @karlmax6673 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Step Lancers 111111

    • @joaobras3836
      @joaobras3836 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@karlmax6673 they were nerfed

    • @elitearambai986
      @elitearambai986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cumans OP pls nerf

    • @skidadle3071
      @skidadle3071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here

    • @skidadle3071
      @skidadle3071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joaobras3836 need to be nerfed more

  • @kidtsunami3993
    @kidtsunami3993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I think kipchak tribes was the power who was really able to stop mongols. And how symbolic, that Kipchak mamluks known in a "mainstream" history as a force who have been "first" who stopped mongols. Which actually debatable point, especially if you know Jalal at dins achievements. Kipchaks was a huge power, they was even able to conquer Baghdad in alliance with Kwaresm, but their fatal problem was.. They have been separated and different parts of them had their own relations and conflicts with different countries.. Russian principalities, Khwaresm and east Europe. Mongols have been United under one ruler and even made other nomadic tribes to serve them including some of kipchaks. legendary roman analogy of how mongols defeated kipchaks is.. How the Last of Horatti brothers, alone killed three of Curiatti brothers. But after mongol invasion, Kipchak steppe became finally the United state of kipchaks under mongol rule.. Which known as Golden horde. Mongols, like it often happens in history, assimilated among kipchaks took their language and became modern tartar, bashkir, nogai, kazakh, karakalpak and even russians. I think kipchak and mongols had many cultural and lifestyle similarities. Have you noticed one thing..? Since Hunnu migration, nomads of eurasian steppe almost followed same journey. From central Asian steppes and Altai mountains to the lands around Panonia. Hunnu then.. Avar, Bulgar, Magyar (Hungarians), kipchaks and finally mongols. Maybe it already exists. a term which describing it.. Something like "the great eurasian nomadic highway"😂 thanks for new video, your uploads always a kind of a little holiday 😉

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      There were some Song Dynasty envoys to the Mongols over the 1220s, and there is a reference to the Qipchaq in them. The envoys record the Mongols basically considering the Qipchaq to be their greatest single military threat. And from the Mongol perspective, this makes a lot of sense. By that point, the Mongols' power was based on the steppe, and happened to control some sedentary territory. As one Mongol is recorded as saying, the people in the cities will stay in their cities, but the nomads could continue fall back, regroup, and continue to pose a threat. One only needs to look at the career of Temujin to see that. It was easy to imagine the Mongol leadership being concerned that some charismatic figure could unite the Cuman-Qipchaqs to challenge the Mongols, much how Temujin had united the Mongols.
      Ultimately, as it did elsewhere, the disunity of their enemy allowed the Mongols to conquer them. And in time, the disunity of the Mongols would allow their enemies to defeat them. It is always like how the mother of Bodunchar Munkhag showed: one arrow alone is easy to break, but many together are strong.

    • @connor1502
      @connor1502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Moarte Cumanilor cry

    • @bulganavarzed7031
      @bulganavarzed7031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory thank you for your stories and very proud that mongols as nomadic tribe surprisingly have documented their history

    • @OtKerk
      @OtKerk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To the East was the sea. Not much land or pasture to expand or to escape to. To the West, by contrast, there was indeed a highway = long stretch of steppes all the way to Europe. Easy for horses. This expansion (of course some caused by rivalry) reminds me of the tradition of Chin/Han Empirical law of Shared Inheritance (Father should give equal land to their sons). So, Chinese lords tried to acquire more and more land, expanding China. Maybe the nomads learnt t from them haha. Chingis Khan gave his sons whole empires.

    • @davefekete7187
      @davefekete7187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steppe pride haha I'm not turkic but i'm Hungarian and most possibly might have some east asian gens in me.

  • @arystanbeck914
    @arystanbeck914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you very much! Kipchaks are the most "underrated" peoples in history. Still, in most maps about Mongol conquest of Central Asia you see an empty space where Kipchaks lived.

  • @senseypires8817
    @senseypires8817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    fun fact a modern turkish speakers can read %70 or %80 kıpçak inscriptions

  • @AngryHistorian87
    @AngryHistorian87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I like that you mentioned the Mamluks in this video!!!

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The reason for that is that I like to show that these regions and peoples are not isolated, and the movements of a group on one end of Asia can have long term consequences for an area on the opposite end of the continent centuries later. I was surprised to learn of the Qipchaq/Olberli connection with the Delhi Sultans. That is why I love being able to do these videos, and learn about connections like that. It also explains some of the Mongol animosity to those regions: the Qipchaq were supposed to be their slaves/property (the Mongol idea of kingdom initially focused more on people than territory) yet to see them ruling in Delhi and Cairo must have been particularly vexing.

    • @AngryHistorian87
      @AngryHistorian87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I read that the Mamluks of Cairo looked at Mongol military practices as ideal, so I believe that the Cairo Mamluks admired the Mongols to some degree.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There was actually some Mongols, being aligned to the Jochids, that once war broke out between the Golden Horde and Ilkhanate fled to the Mamluk state (similarly, Mongols in the east fleeing the intercine warfare of the Ilkhans, Chagatai Khanate and Negudereis would flee to the Delhi Sultanate). The Kipchak-Turkic influence seems to have brought some knowledge of Mongol tactics, and I believe one or maybe more of the Mamluk Sultans was actually of Mongolian descent.
      As it was, the Mamluks had a clear understanding of warfare, and I am sure they acquired as much information Mongol tactics as possible, knowing everything rided on Ayn Jalut (and later close encounters). The best way to understand an enemy is to respect their ability.

    • @AngryHistorian87
      @AngryHistorian87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. One of the sultans of the Bahri Period was of Mongol origins, Al-Adil Kitbuqa!!!

    • @qipchaqcumanicus
      @qipchaqcumanicus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory You did the Great Job in this video

  • @karabudun-tarihvesiyaset8037
    @karabudun-tarihvesiyaset8037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    You did a very good job, but I have something to add on this topic.
    Kipchaks and Cumans played also a big role in the history of the Oghuzes in the Middle East.
    Prof. Dr. Sencer Divitçioğlu wrote in his book ''Orta Asya Türk Tarihi Üzerine Altı Çalışma'' that a big group of Kipckaks/Cumans were present in the Seljuq Empire, raiding the regions between Azerbaijan and central Anatolia against the Byzantine Empire. Ibn Bibi (13.th Century) also wrote that the Anatolian Seljuq Sultan Izzeddin founded an army based on Kipchaks, Yiva and others , against his rebellious brother Rükneddin. Prof. Dr. Sencer also stated that the Kipchaks helped the Seljuqs in the conquest of Syria. The Kipchaks / Cumans under Seljuq rule also later founded the Atabeglik/Atabeylik (Eldiguzids
    - 1136-1225) of Azerbaijan, until they were conquered by the Khwarazmian Empire. The Eldiguzids (Muslim Kipchaks) and Anatolian Seljuq Beyliks (using Kipchak soldiers) also fought against the Kingdom of Georgia, which (like you said) was supported by the Kipchaks in the northern Caucasus (who converted to Christianity a long time ago). Some Kipchaks/Cuman also fled to Azerbaijan after the Mongol conquest, according to Ziya Bünyatov (Azerbaycan Atabeyler Devleti)
    Kipchaks and Cumans were also used by the Byzantine Empire. According to the historian Paul Wittek, ten thousands of Cumans / Kipchaks were settled in to Anatolia (With Bulgars and Pechenegs) and later used against the Seljuqs. One legend says ( I have not found a written source on this) that the Cuman and Pecheneg soldiers in the Byzantine Army changed sides in the Battle of Manzikert, as they saw that their enemy spoke the same tongue as them.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Great share! I love comments like these, especially on areas I don't know as strongly like the Seljuqs or pre-Mongol Caucasus. I didn't know about the connection between the Eldeguzids and the Qipchaq, though I too have heard about the Qipchaq at Manzikert, but I''m not familiar enough with the details of that battle to be able to have an opinion on that.
      The Seljuqs are a weakness of mine: I don't know nearly as much about them as I would like, so I am always hesitant to write much on them. It takes me a lot of researching to have the confidence in a topic to put up a video on it (even for the Mongol Empire, which I know very well), and the Seljuqs are a very large (but very fascinating!) topic. Originally I had a bit more to say on them here, but it was cut for time and I didn't feel like I had researched that aspect enough to comment on it.
      One thing I have wondered about (which I had considered looking into for this video) is if the Oghuz migrations that led to the founding of the Great Seljuq state was connected to the movements of the Qipchaq-Cumans, or Kemek or Pecheneg. But I wasn't able to in time find a satisfactory answer to that. There is unfortunately a limit to how much I can include in a 10-15 minute video (it isn't as much information as many think!) and I had to draw on the line on looking into that.

    • @ibrahimova51
      @ibrahimova51 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Atabek Eldeniz

    • @majungasaurusaaaa
      @majungasaurusaaaa หลายเดือนก่อน

      I doubt language has much of an impact who people fought for. Esp mercenaries.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Cumans and the Tatars were nomadic warriors of the Eurasian steppe who exerted an enduring impact on the medieval Balkans. With this work, István Vásáry presents an extensive examination of their history from 1185 to 1365. The basic instrument of Cuman and Tatar political success was their military force, over which none of the Balkan warring factions could claim victory. As a consequence, groups of the Cumans and the Tatars settled and mingled with the local population in various regions of the Balkans. The Cumans were the founders of three successive Bulgarian dynasties (Asenids, Terterids and Shishmanids) and the Wallachian dynasty (Basarabids). They also played an active role in Byzantium, Hungary and Serbia, with Cuman immigrants being integrated into each country's elite. This book also demonstrates how the prevailing political anarchy in the Balkans in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries made it ripe for the Ottoman conquest.

    • @Cbart23
      @Cbart23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Henry of Skalitz.

  • @r3dum877
    @r3dum877 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    9:24 it's interesting, something exactly the same happened in Mamluk Egypt. In a time when Ayibids started to lose their power over Egypt. When crusaders attacked Mansurra, Ayibid sultan Salikh was ill or even died. And if I'm not mistaken, a woman from his Harem Shadiyar (Shajar at durr) ruled over country. And mamluk warlords like Beibars, Qutuz, Aibek admitted her as "Sultanna". But unlike Raziya Sultana in Delhi, she's finally not became a legitimate Sultanna. I'm not sure but seems reason was.. Khaliph of Baghdad who got a "holy" power of giving a "formal legitimacy", didn't wanted to make a former concubine of Sultan, as an "equal" to Khaliph. But she didn't left her hands out of power. It's long and interesting story, but before Qutuz and Beibars came to power. Lot of mamluks died for a fight to take a power including Shadiyar, her next husband Mamluk Aibek, her son Turanshakh

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very interesting, I didn't know about her at all.
      One suggestion I've seen for Raziyya Sultana's ascension in Delhi was due to the influence of the steppe/Qipchaq culture, wherein roles for women would be less strike. Though the Mongols and Khitans were not turkic, there were a number of very powerful women among both and the Khitan dynasties, the Liao and the Qara-Khitai, both had female empresses, while the Mongols had female regents who for a few years essentially were the rulers of the empire.
      So potentially the environment of the growing influence of the Turkic Mamluks in the final years of the Ayyubids possibly allowed a woman to come to power there (it looks like some historians even theorize that Shajar was turkic herself). Since the Caliph would have more influence in Cairo than in Delhi, it is also possible to see how that could have restricted her to ruling in full. But I don't know enough about the Ayyubid-Mamluk transition to say that with much certainty. As you say, it was such an unstable time that a strong person able to wield influence no matter their gender could have gained power.
      As it was, Raziyya only reigned as Delhi Sultan for four years, after Iltutmish's primary heirs had died, and was overthrown for looking to favour non-Turkic elements of the court. So not exactly a groundbreaking reign.

  • @kinhsenpai3675
    @kinhsenpai3675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    There were other unique turkic people such as the gokturks, khazars, and volga bulgars

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I hope to do videos on each in time, as I love to learn as much as I can on all these peoples. The Volga Bulgars I am already looking at, due to their interaction with Subutai, but the Gokturks and Khazars will be much further away in time.

    • @UmayAltyn
      @UmayAltyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory gokturk = turkey when gokturk empire fall some of the turkic people stay in asia some of them go tp anotolia before kuman kipchak confederacy oghuz yabgu state was living there then oghuz yagbus move to anotolia then make seljuq empire then 2nd seljuk empire then anotolia

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UmayAltyn Gokturk's come from mongolia

    • @okaninhoo
      @okaninhoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Orgil. Doesnt matter. They where still Turkic and not Mongolian. Keep crying.

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@okaninhoolmao do you think modern day turks are same with Gokturks ? there are lots of grave founded in Mongolia and Most of them have Mongol dna.if you dont have Mongol dna on you then you are not REAL TURK.where are you from btw?Turkey ?

  • @LucasDimoveo
    @LucasDimoveo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I have recently taken up a fascination with the Siberian Turks. Do you plan on doing any videos about these more obscure groups?
    I'm loving these videos. Keep it up!

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would love nothing more than to have an entire library of videos on these well known peoples. For now, any videos that aren't on the Mongols themselves will be on groups who were related to, or interacted with, the Mongols in some manner, and then later on discuss peoples more distant in space and time (like as another comment suggested, the Avars or Hepthalites).

  • @tarkora1742
    @tarkora1742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Kipchaks are very very important for turkish history.

    • @tarkora1742
      @tarkora1742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Random Person yes turkic. it is true. kipchaks are turkic. today the name of "turk "represents republic of turkey, balkan turks and turks in europe and cyprus

    • @tarkora1742
      @tarkora1742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Random Person so what ?

    • @tarkora1742
      @tarkora1742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Random Person i will tell you one more and last thing. cumans-kipchaks are a turkic group just like uighurs oghuz. they have a medieval textbook named cuman codex. even i can understand it with my native turkish language. ok ? after mongol barbarism and invasions kipchaks and mongols mixed. many mongols asimilated into kipchaks and modern kazak kyrgyz and tatar nations were born. that's why i said "kipchaks are important for turkish/turkic history"

    • @tarkora1742
      @tarkora1742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Random Person you are not able to understand. good bye.

    • @tarkora1742
      @tarkora1742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Random Person turkic and turkish are related. you think that they are completely different. yes, turkic tribes migrated and invated anatolia , mixed with indigenous people and modern turks born after ottoman empire and republic of turkey. as i understand , you think that turkic and turkish are different completely.
      cant you understand the semantic ? turkish/turkic. modern turkish people have some turkic roots and still using turkic language. how can i explain you more. are you 15 years old ?

  • @yelnurmuratov333
    @yelnurmuratov333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My grandmother was kipchak! I am Kazakh

    • @u_8-9.
      @u_8-9. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mother kipchak

    • @spiritofthesteppe3701
      @spiritofthesteppe3701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am also a Kazakh, we r descendants of the kipchaks

    • @abylays2888
      @abylays2888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spiritofthesteppe3701 Kazakhs are not descendants of Kipchaks in patrilineal sense. At leasth half or more are descendants of the Mongol tribes or tribes that came with them during invasion. Kipchak tribe itself is only one of the many and not even the big one among Kazakh tribes.

  • @gemino4910
    @gemino4910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Stuff like this is awesome, i think analizing different accounts of lesser known steppe people is something you should do more on the channel. Like the Hunnic relation to the Xiongnu and the Hepthalites, or the Avars etc. Keep it up!

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! My hope is to do more like this in the future. The main thrust of the channel will still be the Mongols, and when I do videos like this it will be on groups who were related to, or interacted with, the Mongols in some way (which also helps with the research for my videos on the Mongol conquests) before I go and step out for more distant people like the Hepthalites or Avars.

    • @gemino4910
      @gemino4910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Ok cool, if you want to stay with the mongols, you could probably still find some interesting things with the Xiongnu, since they were proto - mongolic and are believed by many to be the ancestors to the Huns we commonly know from the eastern European steppe. It's still very contested if the Huns were Turkic, Mongolic, Scythian, Iranian etc etc. The only real indicator of what they were are their recorded names, we also have some discriptions by roman ambassadors.
      Here are some names - Dengizich, Ruga, Mundzuc, Bleda, Balamber, Hormidac, Oebar, Edeco, Attila Etc etc.
      And here is a discription of Attila by the roman diplomat priscus - "Short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with grey; and he had a flat nose and tanned skin, showing evidence of his origin"
      There is some real interesting stuff, you should dig into it when you have covered the mongols!

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gemino4910 Xiongnu/Huns were Tiele-Göktürk-Onogur related people but you are believing they were Mongolic peoples and not Turkic🤣

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gemino4910 Hunnic ruler and tribal names are very clearly Oghur Turkic and Bulgars, Onogurs, Akatziri, Sabirs, Utigurs, Kutrigurs, Saragurs were their remnants. 0 iranic or mongolic tribe🤣

    • @janetmontgomery-r6j
      @janetmontgomery-r6j ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a very interesting video and account of history but please can I ask you use a simpler style of test that is easier to read on screen.... I had real problems trying to read it. Thanks

  • @Abeturk
    @Abeturk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Deriving a new verb in turkish...
    1.(Der-mek= ~to set)..ter'kib ve ter'tib etmek ... (used after the verbs which ending in consonant)
    Verb+Dar+mak= to new verb (for the thick voiced words)
    Verb+Der+mek= to new verb (for the subtle voiced words)
    (is used as) ...(Dar-der-tar-ter-ar-er) Dır-dir-dur-dür / Tır-tir-tur-tür / Ir-ir-ur-ür
    (akmak-aktarmak) (bakmak-baktırmak) (almak-aldırmak)(çıkmak-çıkarmak) (kaçmak-kaçırmak)
    2.(Et-mek = ~ to make).... (used after the verbs which ending with vowel and when the suffix "der" is used before)
    Verb+T+mak= to new verb (for the thick voiced words)
    Verb+T+mek= to new verb (for the subtle voiced words)
    (is used as) ...T (ıt-it-ut-üt)
    (akmak-akıtmak) (bakmak-bakıtmak)(yürümek-yürütmek) (yırmak-yırtmak) (öldürmek-öldürtmek)
    3.(Eş=partner)....(together or with partner)-(all together or altogether)- (each other or for each one) (with someone or against the others)
    Verb+aŞ+mak= to new verb (for the thick voiced words)
    Verb+eŞ+mek= to new verb (for the subtle voiced words)
    (is used as) ...Ş (ış-iş-uş-üş)
    (bulmak-buluşmak) (görmek-görüşmek) (girmek-girişmek)
    4.(Al/el = to get.... by someone or something)
    Verb+aL+mak= to new verb (for the thick voiced words)
    Verb+eL+mek= to new verb (for the subtle voiced words)
    (is used as) ...L (ıl-il-ul-ül) (it's used to shorten some verbs as) ...N (ın-in-un-ün)
    (gitmek-gidilmek) (sevmek-sevilmek) (yemek-(yeyilmek)-yenmek)
    5.(En=own diameter(self around)=(about own)
    Verb+aN+mak= to new verb (for the thick voiced words)
    Verb+eN+mek= to new verb (for the subtle voiced words)
    (is used as)...N (ın-in-un-ün)
    (görmek-görünmek) (bulmak-bulunmak) (yıkamak-yıkanmak)
    Sar-mak= ~to encircle
    1.Der- (Sar-dır-mak) 1/2.Et- (Sar-dır-t-mak) 3. Eş- (Sar-ış-mak) 4.Al- (Sar-ıl-mak) 5.En- (Sar-ın-mak)
    Sev-mek=~ to love
    1.Der- (Sev-dir-mek) 1/2.Et- (Sev-dir-t-mek) 3. Eş- (Sev-iş-mek) 4.Al- (Sev-il-mek) 5.En- (Sev-in-mek)
    Mak/Mek...(emek)=exertion (process)
    Git=Go ...(verb root)
    Git-mek= to go
    (Git-der-mek)=(gittirmek)=1. Götürmek= to take away.....(2. gidermek=~to resolve)
    (Git-en-der-mek)=(gidindirmek)= Göndermek= to send
    Gel-mek= to come
    (Gel-der-mek)=(geltirmek)=Getirmek= to bring
    1.Gelmek...2.Getirmek...3.Getirtmek...4.Getirttirmek..5.Getirttirtmek....and it's going so on....
    Dür-mek=(dürmek)= to roll it up (to make it becomes a roll)
    (Tör-mek)=Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis(old meaning)-(to stir it , to mix it(current meaning)) (törük halk=mixed people)
    (Dör-en-mek)=dörünmek= to rotate oneself(old meaning)-(to turn by oneself(current meaning))
    (Törn-mek)=Dön-mek=(dönmek)= to turn oneself
    (Dön-der-mek)=döndürmek= to turn it
    (Dön-eş-mek)=dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something
    (Dön-eş-der-mek)=dönüştürmek= to convert it into
    Yürü-mek= to walk
    (Yürü-et-mek)=yürütmek= to make this goes on
    (Yürü-et-der-mek)=yürüttürmek=to be provider ensuring this is going on
    present simple tense
    for positive sentences..
    (Verb)-A-Var= existent-available-ready TO (verb)
    (Verb)-E-Er= get TO (verb)
    Var-mak= to arrive (at)...(for the thick voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Ar-ır-ur)
    Er-mek= to get (at) ...(for the subtle voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Er-ir-ür)
    for negative sentences
    Ma=not
    Bas-mak= to dwell on .... (to press onto/into) (to pass over)
    (negativity suffix)=Maz=(ma-bas) =(No pass)=na pas=not to dwell on= ~give up =(~vaz geç-mek) ...(for the thick voiced words)
    Ez-mek= to crush...(to press down) ( to compress)
    (negativity suffix)=Mez=(ma-ez) =(No crush)=(do/es not)= ~skip =(~es geç-mek)...(for the subtle voiced words)
    (Uç-mak)= to fly
    (Uç-a-var)= Uçar= that flies ( gets to fly)
    (Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying)
    (Uç-der-ma-bas)=(uçturmaz)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly)
    (Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't (all) together fly
    (Uç-al-ma-bas)=uçulmaz= doesn't get being flied
    Su=water (Suv)=fluent-flowing.....(suvu)=Sıvı=fluid, liquid
    (Süb-mek)=~ to make it flow outside(outwards)
    (süb-der-mek=süptürmek)=süpürmek=to sweep)
    Süv-mek=~ to flow inside(inwards)
    Say-mak=~ to make it flow (drop by drop)one by one (from the mind) = ~ to count up, ~ to deem)
    Söy-mek=~ to make it flow from the tongue (Söy-le-mek= to make (the sentences) flowing by the tongue =~ to say, ~ to tell )
    Sev-mek=~ to make it flow from the tongue (to the heart) = to love
    (Söv-mek)=~ call names
    Süy-mek=~ to make it flow from inside (süyüt) =Süt= milk
    Soy-mak=~ to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Soy-en-mak)=soyunmak=to undress
    (Sıy-der-mak)=sıyırmak= skimming, ~skinning
    Siy-mek=~ to make it flow out =(peeing) (siyidik) =Sidik= urine
    Sür-mek = ~ to make it flow on (something)
    Süz-mek = ~ to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out)
    Sez-mek = ~ to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit)
    Sız-mak = ~ to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate)
    Sağ-mak= ~ to make it pour down (Sağanak=downpour)
    (sağ-en-mak)=sağınmak=~ to make oneself pour from thought into emotions
    (Sağn-mak)=San-mak= ~ to make it pour from thought into an idea
    Sav-mak=~ to make it pour outside (2. put forward- set forth in) (sağan)=Sahan=the container to pour water
    (Sav-der-mak)=(savdurmak)= savurmak... (Sav-der-al-mak)=(savurulmak)= savrulmak
    (Sav-en-mak)=savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)=savunulmak
    (Sav-al-mak)=savulmak
    (Sav-eş-mak)=1.savaşmak=to pour the blood of each other=to shed each other's blood.. (savaş=war)
    2.savuşmak=to get spilled around.(altogether-downright)=(sıvışmak=~running away in fear)..
    (Sav-eş-der-mak)=1.savaştırmak=(~to make them fight each other).2.savuşturmak =(ward off-fend off)
    Sürmek = ~ to make it flow on (something)
    (Sür-e--er)= sürer = lasts (goes on), (2.takes away)
    (Sür-der-mek)= sürdürmek= to make this to continue (~to sustain)
    (Sür-der-e--er)= sürdürür = makes it to last forward ,(makes it continue)
    (Sür-ma-ez)= sürmez = doesn't drive ... (2. gives up flowing on) (3. gives up going on)
    (Sür-der-ma-ez)= sürdürmez =doesn't make it go on (doesn't make it continue)
    (Sür-al-ma-ez)= sürülmez =doesnt get driven by any.. (2.doesnt get followed by any..)
    Sür-en-mek= sürünmek= (~to makeup) (~rides odor) (~to paint oneself)
    Sürü-mek= taking it away forward (or backward on the floor)
    (Sürü-e--er)=sürür=takes it away forward
    (Sürü-et-mek)=(sürütmek) sürtmek=~ to rub
    (Sürü-al-mek)=2.sürülmek=to get expelled
    (Sürü-en-mek)=2.sürünmek=to creep on
    (Sürü-en--der-mek)=süründürmek=~ to make it's creeping on
    (Sürü-et-en-mek)=sürtünmek=to have a friction
    (Sürü-et--eş-mek)=sürtüşmek=to get rubbed each other
    (Gör-mek)=to see
    (Gör-e-er)=görür=(that) sees..
    (Gör-ma-ez)=görmez=(that) doesn't see
    (Gör-en-ma-ez)= görünmez= doesn't show ownself (doesn't seem)
    (Gör-al-ma-ez)= görülmez= doesn't get seen by any..
    (Gör-eş-ma-ez)= görüşmez= doesn't get seen each other
    (Görs-der-ma-ez)=göstermez=(that) doesn't show
    Göz=(Görs)=(Khorus)= (one) Eye
    (Görs-et-mek)=(görsetmek)=to make it visible
    (Görs-der-mek)=göstermek=to show
    (Tanı-mak)= to recognize
    (Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= doesn't recognize
    (Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it to get recognized
    (Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself =doesn't get recognized by any..(doesn't get known by any)
    (Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't recognize each other (doesn't get known each other)
    Tanışmak= to get to know each other =(~to meet first time)
    Danışmak= to get information from each other
    1.(la/le = to make via)-~getting by means of -....to do it through this...~getting with ..)... (used after the nouns and adjectives)
    (....le-mek-..la-mak.)....(...le-et-mek- ..la-et-mak) (..le-et-der-mek-...la-et-der-mak)
    (....lemek-..lamak.)....(...letmek- ..latmak) (..lettirmek-...lattırmak)
    Tıŋı=tune (timbre)
    Tıŋı-la-mak= to take a sound out
    = (Tınlamak=~answering and reacting )(~to take heed of)
    Tıŋ-mak= to react verbally,
    Tiŋi-le-mek=to take a sound in = (Dinlemek= to listen)
    Tiŋ-mek=(to get soundless)=(Dinmek= to calm down (to get quiescent)
    Tıngırdatmak=to try playing the musical instrument
    2.(laş/leş =(ile-eş)= (to become equal to..) (to become the same of..) (used after the nouns and adjectives)
    (....leş-mek-..laş-mak.)...(..leş-der-mek-...laş-der-mak)....(...leş-der-et-mek- ..laş-der-et-mak)
    (....leşmek-..laşmak.)...(..leştirmek-...laştırmak)....(...leştirtmek- ..laştırtmak)
    3.(lan/len =(ile-en)= (to become with)- (to get it by..)(to have it by..) (used after the nouns and adjectives)
    (....len-mek-..lan-mak.)...(..len-der-mek-...lan-der-mak)....(...len-der-et-mek- ..lan-der-et-mak)
    (....lenmek-..lanmak.)...(..lendirmek-...landımak)....(...lendirtmek- ..landırtmak)
    by reiterations
    (Parıl Parıl) parıl-da-mak= to gleam
    (Işıl Işıl) ışıl-da-mak= to shine
    (Şarıl Şarıl) şarıl-da-mak
    (Bangır Bangır) bangır-da-mak
    (Hüngür Hüngür) hüngür-de-mek
    (Kıpır Kıpır) kıpır-da-mak
    (Kımıl Kımıl) kımıl-da-mak
    (Zırıl Zırıl) zırıl-da-mak
    (Horul Horul) horul-da-mak
    (Vızır Vızır) Vızır-da-mak
    by colors
    Ak= white
    Ağar-mak = to turn to white
    Kara= black
    Karar-mak=to become blackened
    Kızıl= red
    Kızar-mak= to turn red (to blush) (to be toasted)
    Yeşil= green
    Yeşermek=to turn to green (come into leaf)
    Göğermek= to turn to blue
    Kırarmak=to graying
    Sararmak=to turn yellow
    Bozarmak=to turn to brown
    Morarmak=to turn to purple
    by a whim or a want
    Su-sa-mak= to thirst
    Kanık-sa-mak
    gülüm-se-mek= to smile
    küçüm-se-mek

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I read in Islamic sources written in Arabic that they were blonde, had pale skin, and blue eyes, and that their women were very desirable to the Russian nobility.

    • @Dimash1975
      @Dimash1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Russians and Rus is not the same. Russian became ethnicity in 17th century

    • @sarubet8725
      @sarubet8725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coomer arab

    • @precursors
      @precursors 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, there is not a single historical record that says they had blonde hair or blue eyes. They rode light brown/yellowish horses.

  • @Kypshakyogi
    @Kypshakyogi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most of the modern kipchaks in Kazakhstan and also Kumandin of Russia have patternal r1b y haplogroup which is most common in west european and american males

  • @gusfring8451
    @gusfring8451 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “They were part of the army that murdered my father!” - Henry of Skalitz

  • @Hakanerdmmm
    @Hakanerdmmm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Hello from Turkey
    İam a Kıpchak Turk , My grandfather coming from Sekelstan ( Hungary )
    İ love My anatolian Oghuz Turkic Brother
    We are Big and Greatest Nation !
    Amir Temur ( Tamerlane) say ;
    “We are Melik-i ( Leader ) Turan , Emir-i ( Ruler) of Turkestan , We are sons of Turk , İ am Leader of Greatest Nation “
    Son’s of Karluks- Kıpchaks- Oghuzs brother nation ..
    Grey Wolves army on way ( Turan )
    Hajra Turan!
    Hedef Turan !
    🇹🇷🇹🇷🇦🇿🇦🇿🇭🇺🇭🇺🇺🇿🇺🇿🇹🇲🇹🇲🇰🇬🇰🇬🇨🇾🇨🇾🇰🇿🇰🇿🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺
    Tengri biz Menen ! 🐺🤘

    • @YushaKozaki
      @YushaKozaki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sekelstan :D :D :D
      - Said one "Turkic" Nationalist, ever.

    • @talhadurmaz3042
      @talhadurmaz3042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Moarte Cumanilor cry

    • @postachamdi6286
      @postachamdi6286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are no magyar or hun left in hungaria, all of them are asimilated and became pure europeans. They dont even have 1% east asian heritage but yes we love european sons of our magyar ancestors❤

    • @strider8662
      @strider8662 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@postachamdi6286 "Pure European" LOL
      Bro, european is not a genetic distinction. Its a (veeeeeeery vaguely) cultural and political union, nothing more. You really think a German and Greek shares a similiar genetic strcuture?

    • @postachamdi6286
      @postachamdi6286 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@strider8662 seems like you didnt got my comment. Let me explain in a more simple way:
      Hungarians are european
      Magyars are asian
      European isnt asian
      So hungarians arent magyars
      And yes greek and german are brothers depends on the scale you are looking from. Both are sons of european hunter gatherers and anatolian neolithic farmers. And both languages are indo-european origin, right?

  • @liakaites383
    @liakaites383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I’m kipshak 🙌🏻

    • @anuardoshchan9262
      @anuardoshchan9262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I'm

    • @multitalentedman1284
      @multitalentedman1284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hail From Turkey Brothers and Sisters :) :) :)

    • @horserider5086
      @horserider5086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm kipchak and I'm kazakh too

    • @rentabullet4048
      @rentabullet4048 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

    • @Hakanerdmmm
      @Hakanerdmmm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lia Kaites im Kıpchak Turk we dont like oghuz Turks 😂😂
      Joke🍎🇹🇷🐺🍎🤘🐺

  • @AncientAccounts
    @AncientAccounts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is a super interesting niche channel i watched one of your other videos and i didn't know theres so much to know about the Mongols who in most peoples minds are morphed into a homogeneous "barbaric horseman"

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I always think niche is better. Rather than cover 100 topics broadly, the amount both ourselves and others learn is so much more by covering one topic in detail.

  • @artsempai
    @artsempai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Russian name of the cumans Polovtsy (yellows) came as a direct translation of “sari-qipchaq” as they called themselves (yellow qipchaq), not because of their hair color. In many asian traditions, including mongolian and turkic, cardinal directions have colors, and yellow or golden is the center, hence the Golden Horde (again, not because they were blonde). Other central asian people with colors in their name - Gökturks (blue turks), white huns, black huns. Also - seas around Anatolia in turkish named after colors - karadeniz (black sea), kizildeniz (red sea), akdeniz (mediterranean sea)

    • @enesacer9014
      @enesacer9014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dude, it is recorded in Arab sources that they are very light skinned, blue eyed and blonde. Likewise, the Chinese also refer to the Kyrgyz (a Kipchak Tribe) as having red hair and colored eyes. It speaks directly about this in Latin sources. In other words, Turks can also have blond hair and colored eyes. There's no point in denying that. My father, who is a Turk, has slanted eyes, but I have red-blond hair and blue/green central heterochromic eyes. Turks had many phenotypes because they married women from many different tribes. So this is normal.

    • @enesacer9014
      @enesacer9014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, the Cumans headed west. If they were to be identified by a color that would be black or white. So that's not appropriate, dude. Also, the Göktürks are not like you think, it's probably related to Göktanrı (God of Sky) . The Ashina clan, who gave the name Turk and founded the Gokturk empire, is a white tribe. Probably relatives with the Wusuns. It is written in Chinese sources that Mukan Kagan has auburn hair and blue eyes. And DNA tests show that they carry the Scythian gene and belong to haplogroups R1a,R1b and N.

    • @enesacer9014
      @enesacer9014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Turks are descendants of the Scythians, so it's not surprising.

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@enesacer9014 If Turkic people were descendants of Scythians, they would be speaking an indo European language since Scythians were Iranic speakers. The closest living descendant of this language is Ossetian. The Turkic homeland is in the Mongolian steppes and eastern Siberia, they expanded and moved west over the centuries in different directions! They absorbed and ejected the previous inhabitants of the Central Asian steppes since as early as the second century, by the 6th to 7th century Central Asia was thoroughly Turkic.

    • @ProfessorOFanthropology979
      @ProfessorOFanthropology979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enesacer9014 The Kyrgyz of old, (yenesei Kyrgyz) and the modern Kyrgyz are not a “kipchak tribe“, the modern Kyrgyz nationality developed from a kipchak speaking confederation of Turkic and turko mongolian tribes. And the Yenesei Kyrgyz didn’t speak a kipchak dialect, they spoke a Siberian Turkic dialect that would be more closer to Sakha rather than Kyrgyz or Kazakh even.

  • @LaSenioraKittehz
    @LaSenioraKittehz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting video ; I recently found one of Khan Köten's daughters is my direct ancestor so it was nice to see a few history videos on this nation.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would that daughter be Elizabeth the Cuman by any chance? I will actually be talking a little about her and the Cumans in Hungary in a video coming out in early February!

    • @LaSenioraKittehz
      @LaSenioraKittehz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory that would be correct ! through her daughter Mary of Hungary, Queen of Naples
      on I believe 6 or 7 distinct lines. I've been trying to trace past Khan Koten but the only thing I could find is a rumor that his father was Khan Suthoi.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LaSenioraKittehz Unfortunately, you are unlikely to find more on Kotjen beyond that. We know he was an important Cuman chief, as he married another one of his daughters to Mstislav of Galicia, but it's not until about 1222/1223, when the Mongols killed the most powerful Cuman -Qipchaq chiefs, that Kotjen really stands out and gets attention in the sources. I think there is a few earlier mentions of him, but there is very little information about him before the Kalka River battle. It's commonly mentioned that his clan was the Terteroba, but I think tracing the clan's history to before Kalka is also difficult.
      Our sources are often only interested in the nomads when they start dealing with sedentary powers- and for Kotjen, it's that 1222/1223 where he starts interacting with them beyond that marriage alliance.

    • @LaSenioraKittehz
      @LaSenioraKittehz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory The closest i could get to tracing it beyond kalka is a rumour that he was related to Khan Otrok who was involved in fighting with the rus in the very early 12th century.

    • @richardruusmann8187
      @richardruusmann8187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, my ancestor is khan köten too

  • @GilthFrubble
    @GilthFrubble ปีที่แล้ว

    Your pronunciation is amazing, it's rare to see anyone get any of these perfect, much less all of them.

  • @mustafakaragoz3137
    @mustafakaragoz3137 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Codex Cumanicus” is a Latin-Cuman Lexicon. Cumans speaked a turkic language.

  • @sopratutti8893
    @sopratutti8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a Cuman based on the father's lineage, just north of Danube. My male ancestors all had blue eyes and blond hair (FWIK until puberty during the last generations).
    Thanked for the video, I was familiar with some of this history, please keep it up Jackmeister!

    • @roseblue_
      @roseblue_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This strange phenomenon, losing the blond color in hair, after puberty strikes, is called the "Balkan Blond". It is manifested in many people in the area. Being it of a slavic, cuman, roman, turkic, bulgarian, greek, latin, rus, viking, hun, albanian and-a-million-other-peoples-throughout-the-ages origin, the effect is always that the blond hair seem to dissapear after puberty and become brown. Possibly to counter the increased sunlight after the ice age. And the blue eye gene is also getting gradually repressed in the area, for the same reason.

    • @predatorsorin8402
      @predatorsorin8402 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roseblue_ the real kumans was black kumania brownie from kazakstan khazar Hebrew uygur and roma gypsies kipcak mamluk of delhy and Egypt from uygur khazar and khazar Hebrew turk his kipcak children of scitians saka indo iranians mongolic euroastiatics who rule turkestan kazakstan tarim basin bulgary and Romania after disappeared the name scityians they was caled cumans kipcak tatars and scitians saka are our ancestors of roma gypsies indo iranians and uygur khazar saka and khazar hebrew and uzbeki uzbeki is uygur tribe's khazar they mix everiwhere the cumans in bulgarya Romania Macedonia and Poland khazar Hebrews cossak was not polish was khazar Hebrews

    • @sopratutti8893
      @sopratutti8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Sweet Angel I was told my grand grandfather was like this too. Also, our last name in Romanian (Coman) means "Cuman", which the existing residents used to name the cumans who settled in their area.

    • @sopratutti8893
      @sopratutti8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sweet Angel it sounds like your ancestors were the Kipchaks. Cumans were the western part (blond blue eyes), Kipchaks the eastern part, mongoloid looking: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans (read under 'Names and etymology').

    • @omariomart.3898
      @omariomart.3898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      im kipchak from altay xinjang region. My grandparents had blue green eyes blond hair too and they were all tall.

  • @yonowaaru
    @yonowaaru 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another excellent video 😁😁

  • @Razielmn
    @Razielmn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As always Amazing historical content man! big thumps up!

  • @lawrencedanao7648
    @lawrencedanao7648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am Filipino and have no relation to the turkic Mongolian Tribes but I admire your history and culture. Beautiful.

    • @jackstod
      @jackstod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And you clearly insult it, they're not turkish.

    • @lawrencedanao7648
      @lawrencedanao7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackstod how am I insulting it? I think turkic and Mongolian culture is amazing. Why are you being negative.

  • @Nomadicenjoyer31
    @Nomadicenjoyer31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Golden Horde=Kipchak Khanate of Merkit Turk origin

  • @csongorsanta7428
    @csongorsanta7428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In hungarian it's kun not qun. But the pronounciation is the same.

    • @xanshen9011
      @xanshen9011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Moarte Cumanilor If you hate cumans so much then why is it in your name?

    • @leventesarkadi7982
      @leventesarkadi7982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moarte Cumanilor who the fck are you to say that we must go back

  • @turk_rebel_1percenter
    @turk_rebel_1percenter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Good video!
    A Cuman is here. My ancestors are from Macedonia, around the Danube (Romania/Bulgaria) and Ukraine.
    I have blue eyes, light-brown/blond hair, tall and fit. My cheekbones are high. I have a bit slant eyes.

    • @fatihkoc7075
      @fatihkoc7075 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your chance of being Cuman is sadly too low. Yet your name is Anatolian Turkish and Balkan Turks has the lowest Turkic ancestory. Also phenotype doesn't explain genotype.

    • @turk_rebel_1percenter
      @turk_rebel_1percenter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Fatih Koç They are Cuman Tatar, how can they be Anatolian Turks? My grandparents used to use words from Cuman dialect mostly. At home we did not use to use modern Turkish.
      Search for it. And happily, my chance is way too high.
      And phenotype explains very well.
      So with your logic, a man who is black may not be African too.
      Come on...
      My grandma is from Cumanova, Macedonia. Does it explain anything?
      Another grandma is from Crimea.
      My grandfathers are from Romania, today Bulgaria. They are all known as Tatar villages. They have slant eyes.
      Do you need more information? They have never been to Anatolia before. We are all different from another Turks who came from Anatolia to Balkans.
      Tatars and the Turks who went to Balkans from Anatolia are not same.
      Dig in the history more.

    • @turk_rebel_1percenter
      @turk_rebel_1percenter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fatih Koç I have searched each word that we used to speak at home and compared it to Cuman dialect. I did my research very well. Do not care.
      Words are matching
      My family’s phenotypes’ are matching
      What else will you find?

    • @fatihkoc7075
      @fatihkoc7075 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@turk_rebel_1percenter Its a common thing to Balkan Turks to have blonde phenotype but what im actually curious about is that how did you found how the Cuman dialect was? There isn't any Cuman writtings exists. There is only Codexus Cumanicus whic is written by Europeans to make trade with Cumans. You probably searched how the old Turkic languages sound like and then you found out some words and sayings. But nearly all the old Turkic languages are nearly the same.

    • @turk_rebel_1percenter
      @turk_rebel_1percenter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fatih Koç It was really bullshit to judge me from my name.
      I mean, there was a sprinter who’s name was Elvan but she was from Africa?
      So? 😂

  • @WhiteFalcon_EA
    @WhiteFalcon_EA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are great, I hope to see a video about Timurids from you.

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! I will 100% cover the Timurids in the future, but I don't know when that will be. Certainly after I finish with Chinggis Khan's career. I'm really interested in comparing Timur and Chinggis, and I don't think you can study Timur without understanding the world left behind by the Mongol Empire, or Timur's own intentional comparisons to Chinggis Khan.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very good video my brother👍👍👍

  • @ottoman000scholar
    @ottoman000scholar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Kumyk of Dagestan claim direct ancestry from the Cumans

    • @cant8160
      @cant8160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kumyks are turkic as well

    • @Maerling
      @Maerling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From are you?

  • @kinokor2014
    @kinokor2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tegim Turki / Bolimim Qypchaq / Ruym Berish / Ultym Qazaq

  • @blu9371
    @blu9371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a romanian. Love to my cuman fellows! 🇷🇴❤
    Thanks to the cumans, vlachs finally managed to make their country! Vallachia. Through Basarab 1.

  • @Mr.ChadTV
    @Mr.ChadTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Umarım sağlam bi netflix dizisi yapılırda kumanlara yer verilir.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Çağrı Emirhan Demir harbi ya çok iyi tarihleri var

    • @Mr.ChadTV
      @Mr.ChadTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@papazataklaattiranimam Kesinlikle

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Çağrı Emirhan Demir
      Şuraya bir bak yok yok
      List of Cumans/Wikipedia
      Kazıklı Voyvoda bile Cuman

    • @burakasik3937
      @burakasik3937 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@papazataklaattiranimam Herif türk mü la

    • @Ebinspurdo
      @Ebinspurdo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      (try speaking Cuman)

  • @LogicaetRatio-r8z
    @LogicaetRatio-r8z ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kazakhs have a Kipchak tribe in Middle Juz, a Kangli tribe in Senior Juz and a Nogai tribe in Junior Juz, in total about 1 million to 1.5 million Cuman Kipchaks in its 18 million modern population. Unfortunately most Kipchaks were either sold as slaves or forced to migrate elsewhere and got assimilated after the Mongol(Tatar) conquest.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    One of the best Turkic nomadic warriors in history

  • @AytSA
    @AytSA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Karakalpaks, who lived near the Aral sea, has a large clan called Cipchak.

  • @jonathanrandall1880
    @jonathanrandall1880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kingdom Deliverance players, hello !

  • @muratlokmanoglu
    @muratlokmanoglu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    𐰋𐰃𐰼 𐱃𐰣𐰼𐰢 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰜𐰏 𐰚𐰇𐰔𐰓 𐰘𐰏𐰓
    𐰽𐰯𐰦𐰀 𐰋𐰇𐰼𐰚𐱅
    𐰲𐰼𐰓𐰀 𐰚𐰜𐰋𐰇𐰼𐰇 𐰉𐰆𐰞

    • @lgosuberalles4336
      @lgosuberalles4336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What script is that?

    • @muratlokmanoglu
      @muratlokmanoglu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lgosuberalles4336 This is " TAMGA " Turkish runic alphabet.

    • @nurikzhakaym6456
      @nurikzhakaym6456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Janissary_ML , no turkish, turkic alphabet

    • @Hakanerdmmm
      @Hakanerdmmm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bilo's Barnyard it’s Runic alphabet , Meaning ( Tamga )
      First Write GokTurk empire in 700’s

  • @Beyzatomris
    @Beyzatomris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a Cuman-Kipchak Turk, I love this video! Thanks ☺️🙏🏼

    • @saqeralthawara2342
      @saqeralthawara2342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can I ask a question please? Do modern day Kipchaks have Asiatic features or Aryan features?

    • @Beyzatomris
      @Beyzatomris ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saqeralthawara2342 For sure! Well, I would say both. We are known as “blonde Turks” so mostly Aryan features but also a lot of Asian features. There is also a mix of both, like blonde hair with Asian eyes, high cheeck bones😊

    • @saqeralthawara2342
      @saqeralthawara2342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Beyzatomris Thank you for your reply, have you ever heard of Baybars The Father of Conquest? He was a Kipchak warrior in the 13th century who converted to Islam and Ruled Egypt , Syria and Palestine and defeated the Mongols . In the Arab world we consider him a hero who saved us from the Mongols .

    • @erectilereptile7383
      @erectilereptile7383 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BeyzatomrisI thought most kipchaks were dark haired. I stand corrected.

  • @nimrodel4245
    @nimrodel4245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How come you didn't mention Codex Cumanicus? it is the probably the most important written document of Cuman langauge

    • @udon6031
      @udon6031 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5:32 on screen

  • @jimbeaux89
    @jimbeaux89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brought here by KCD, where I’ve slayed many a kipchak

  • @charlesdeleo4608
    @charlesdeleo4608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah, yes! The Cumans. This video has proven quite useful actually. In my upcoming novel series, the Cumans play a vital role as antagonists, as their role in founding the Second Bulgarian Empire leads to them clashing with a revitalised Eastern Roman Empire multiple times, and their conflicts with the Romans is actually what leads to an alliance between the Mongols and the Romans, as they both see the Cumans as a mutual common enemy.

    • @wargreysama
      @wargreysama ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are into describing Cumans, just so y'know they are these Eurasian looking people with distinct blonde hair and blue eyes and pale skins. They are like tall white people with pale skins but their eyes are shaped like asians, y'know slanted. And they are always described to be beautiful.

  • @VarangianGuard13
    @VarangianGuard13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I do honestly want to know, if it's still a living language, are there resources that would allow me to learn the Kipchak language? If so, does anyone have a link?
    EDIT! So I have found that some information is available through Kazakhstan sources, I'm glad to know that such a resource exists!
    Thank you to the folks at "Kazakh TV" for being there as a resource. It's very difficult to find anything with English subtitles otherwise.

    • @UmayAltyn
      @UmayAltyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its alive langauge in diffrent kind like crimean tatar langauge tatarstan tatar langauge and black sea citys im turkey mostly kipchaks live in Black sea in turkey and Eskisehir The most close language to Turkish is kipchak langauge (crimean tatar) language

    • @canadianguy5244
      @canadianguy5244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Crimean tatars, Karachays, Balkars, Kumuks, Nogais have the most that left from kipchaks as their language remained very much preserved

    • @VarangianGuard13
      @VarangianGuard13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UmayAltyn Thank you so very much for the information!! I am glad to know that the language survives! (hopefully along with the culture and people)
      I hope that you are having a wonderful day. Thank you for the information, myriad blessings upon you 😁

    • @VarangianGuard13
      @VarangianGuard13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@canadianguy5244 Thank you for the information! This gives me something to work with! And to work towards!
      Have a wonderful, blessed day!

  • @morganholon2648
    @morganholon2648 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kipckak is written with a dotless 'i' in turkish (Kıpçak) thus indicating that it is pronounced as a 'shwa' and not like a regular 'i'

  • @selimkahraman5582
    @selimkahraman5582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am Oğuz Türk and ı am greeting all Humanity and my beloved Kıpçak brothers and sisters.

    • @npickle54
      @npickle54 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bellyblobs

    • @selimkahraman5582
      @selimkahraman5582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@npickle54 what ?

    • @npickle54
      @npickle54 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@selimkahraman5582 it's my catchphrase

  • @davefekete7187
    @davefekete7187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible videos love them, i will sub for more!

  • @ABC-bi8ht
    @ABC-bi8ht 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is big tribe named as qipshaq in the middle juz of Qazaq nation. Moreover , author didn’t mention that qanli confederation was in power for more than 600 years , before even Turk khanate. While today Qanli, is a part of Uli juz confederation of tribe in Qazaq nation .

  • @theggman111
    @theggman111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who else knows this guys from kingdome come deliverance?

  • @BIRDMAN-ns7jn
    @BIRDMAN-ns7jn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came here because of the Kingdom Come Deliverance game.

  • @kaybevang536
    @kaybevang536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These Cuman Kipchak warriors found themselves as Calvary for the mongols of the Golden Horde and even part of Kublai Khan’s Keshig Of The Mongol Yuan Dynasty

  • @albertl705
    @albertl705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Если ты кипчак, то поставь лайк и напиши под этим комментом откуда ты, посмотрим сколько нас
    If you are a Kipchak, then like and write where you are from under this comment, let's see how many of us

    • @Kenan-Z
      @Kenan-Z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm an Ahiska Turk from northeastern Turkey (Black Sea coast). My ancestors were Kipchaks. My grandparents used many weird words durign my childhood. Later on, when I grew up and read books on Turkish dialects and the etymology of modern Turkish words, I realized that those "weird words" are actually of Kipchak origin.

    • @baglanzhagypar9308
      @baglanzhagypar9308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kazakhstan

  • @justuss501
    @justuss501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cumans are broken as hell, a second town center in feudal age and over powered steppe lancers

  • @tcxnt5442
    @tcxnt5442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My family traced our ancestors to the Yuan Dynasty prime minister El Temur. The descendants of him scattered among Southwestern China and lived to today. It’s interesting to hear about our family’s story. 😂

  • @kalpeshpatel-xi1gg
    @kalpeshpatel-xi1gg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cumans, kipchaks,khitans ,khans, Aryans, scythians, sakas, turks, huns, bulgars , awars, alans, gokturk, turks, mughals, mongols, pechnegs, karakhitai, karakhanids, karapalaks, uzbeks, gokturks, uzez, turkmens, khwarezmis,etc... All from the same breed and coming from same location, i.e. central asia

  • @kristoffeher6278
    @kristoffeher6278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm cuman from hungary.

    • @ANTSEMUT1
      @ANTSEMUT1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Moarte Cumanilor chicken shit.

    • @excessiveone9952
      @excessiveone9952 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Moarte Cumanilor They have been in Europe for centuries at this point

    • @mrtpmk
      @mrtpmk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Moarte CumanilorDont cry, just suck!

    • @Hakanerdmmm
      @Hakanerdmmm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moarte Cumanilor no cryyy
      World is not your
      Hungarians best nation in Eu🇹🇷🇭🇺❤️

    • @AudioEsoterixxx
      @AudioEsoterixxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lit

  • @tayfuncetin5370
    @tayfuncetin5370 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bütün Türk kardeş halklarına selam olsun. Kumanı da, kıpçağı da ,oğuzu da hepimizin dili kültürü bir.

  • @seyahatdelisilenurbey
    @seyahatdelisilenurbey ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m Crimean Tatar, and my nation is considered as the direct inherit of Cumans and Codex Cummanicus ( a dictionary written in Cuman) is proof of this, since the Cuman language is closest to the current Crimean Tatar. Another interesting fact: in Codex Cummanicus the language called itself “Tatar tili” - Tatar language. Tatar - is our authonym. The dictionary was written before the Mongolian invasion, which proves that Tatars were living in Crimea long before the Mongolian rule. Unfortunately after years of colonization, marginalization and deportation my people were forced to forget our great history. So thank you for your video!

    • @danasingapore135
      @danasingapore135 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With all due respect, Cumans were horse riders, free spirited warriors. Modern tatars submitted to easily to Russian tsar. I doubt that you are direct successors of great warriors of the Steppes.

    • @seyahatdelisilenurbey
      @seyahatdelisilenurbey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danasingapore135 well, there’s a thing that is called “development”. In 10-15 centuries Crimean Tatars were famous for their horse riders and stuff like that, but with the creation of state borders, the need for a sedentary life arose. The army was no longer the same as before, life in general was no longer the same as before. Plus, Crimean Khanate was the longest living successor of the Golden Horde. Crimean Tatars are the direct descendants of the Cumans, we bare their language and culture, there’s no doubt in it. And these are not my words, it’s a historical fact.

    • @raritica8409
      @raritica8409 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danasingapore135 What Inflammatory, disgraceful crap you speak. Crimean Khanate was independent for centuries and battled against the growing massive Russian Empire for hundreds of years, sacking Moscow occasionally. Go back to the ditch you crawled out of

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Music?

  • @Ouzconqueror
    @Ouzconqueror 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is 2 main roots on Turks one is Oghuz one is Chuman/Kypcaks you can split 20-30 mini Turkic Grps under it..

    • @barca8341
      @barca8341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli who are the siberian ones?

    • @barca8341
      @barca8341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli peçenekler ne

    • @barca8341
      @barca8341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Kıpçaklar da mi oğuz?,

    • @barca8341
      @barca8341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nadir Hikmet Kuleli Bizim oranin adamina peçenek derler ondan dolayi ben peçenek olduğumu düşünüyorum wiki de de bizim ilçe var peceneklerin yaşadığı yer diye

  • @brianhayestunes2
    @brianhayestunes2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nerfed too soon, RIP Cumans

    • @biaslina
      @biaslina 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fat Cumans no number 1 again

    • @teovu5557
      @teovu5557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are not extinct lol

  • @bogdanbogdanoff5164
    @bogdanbogdanoff5164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here again, this time from age of empires DE

  • @Nuka0420
    @Nuka0420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kingdom Come: Deliverance sent me here

  • @cant8160
    @cant8160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    09:19 iltutmush means. landlord

    • @skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306
      @skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      İl(or el, depending on the variation of Turkic) - land
      tutmush - "the one who held"
      so literal translation would be landholder.

  • @55555nariman
    @55555nariman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am Kipchak and I approve this statement

  • @Mercury29477
    @Mercury29477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came here ngl because I saw cumin culture in eu4 while playing extended timeline mod and also bc I wanted to know more about the funni named horde in aoc2

  • @Temirlanrwb
    @Temirlanrwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm kipchak->kara-kipchak->uzun, from Kazakhstan

  • @zrau8634
    @zrau8634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now I feel bad about taking the Cuman to Rattay to hang. Well, not really.

  • @hungariancuman2835
    @hungariancuman2835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm proud to be a Cuman

    • @hungariancuman2835
      @hungariancuman2835 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Arno Eastasian like you know everything elese...i look Cuman..my parents are Cuman...I'm Cuman.

    • @ww249
      @ww249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello from your distant relative Kazań tatar!

    • @hungariancuman2835
      @hungariancuman2835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ww249 Hello form the plains of Hungary :D

    • @PimsleurTurkishLessons
      @PimsleurTurkishLessons ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hungariancuman2835 you can learn Turkish from my first video list in daily basic level in a month by listening 30 minutes lesson per day. it teaches native way. without grammar.

    • @hungariancuman2835
      @hungariancuman2835 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PimsleurTurkishLessons Nice I'll check it out :)

  • @nazar5323
    @nazar5323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant!

  • @albertl705
    @albertl705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m kumuk and I’m kipchak

  • @tasbykekerey1203
    @tasbykekerey1203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kipchaks are one of the tribe in middle Juz of modern Kazakh people

    • @omariomart.3898
      @omariomart.3898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      u know esdevlet?

    • @amandykkarymsak4632
      @amandykkarymsak4632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ruslan Mai no bro it's came from Golden Horde times, cause we know Koblandy batyr from Kara-Kipchak tribe. He lived in 15 century, and Kara-Kipchak is still just 1 branch of Kipchak tribe. There are also Uzun-kipchak, Sary-kipchak, Khulan-kipchak, Kurleut-kipchak and Kytai-kipchak branches

    • @amandykkarymsak4632
      @amandykkarymsak4632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ruslan Mai Many Kipchaks live among Kyrgyz Bashkir and Karakalpak. And also Kipchak was 1 of main tribes in Krimean khanate along with Argyn , Baarin and Shirin

  • @umitjhukov6662
    @umitjhukov6662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:48 that's when my ancestors moved from steppe to north eastern Anatolia and where we still live

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cumans and Kipchaks are same people the difference is like Serbian and Bosniak

  • @alorikkoln
    @alorikkoln 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, very insightful.

  • @karakhankamaltegin9331
    @karakhankamaltegin9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm kyrgyz kipchak, tnx for video. 👍🏻

  • @Nomadicenjoyer31
    @Nomadicenjoyer31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Baibars was a Kipchak 😼

  • @FenrirSrpski
    @FenrirSrpski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, thanks , many thanks :)

  • @Abdulhamid-un1qm
    @Abdulhamid-un1qm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so what about turkic people of caucas? like kumuk, karachai and balkars

  • @spectator11
    @spectator11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi to all from a Cuman living in Turkiye.

  • @CaskTheology
    @CaskTheology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Facinating.

  • @dakotacseh4795
    @dakotacseh4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not sure exactly what I am but I believe it’s this!

  • @Korealover1432
    @Korealover1432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey will make a video about the chagatai And ilkhanate invasion of India in which they were severly defeated.Btw great video are you planning on making a video about the yuan invasion java and vietnam (they are rarely talked about)

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hope to in time talk in detail about the Mongol defeats in India, Vietnam, Java, and other areas (as well as many other topics!) There are a lot of very poorly known or understood areas of this period I would love to walk about, it is just a matter of time and resources to deal with them. And I want to get through more of the Mongol's successes so it can be a 'foundation' to compare to why in some areas they were so successful, while also suffering repeated defeats in others.

    • @Korealover1432
      @Korealover1432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory take your time and thanks for making such informative videos

    • @matthewsmith1779
      @matthewsmith1779 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope he talks about Tamerlane's (Timur) invasion.

  • @AzeriDervish
    @AzeriDervish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The music in the end was good, sounds familiar anyone knows the name?

  • @richardruusmann8187
    @richardruusmann8187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But was köten(khan of qipchaq-cuman con) kipchack or cuman?

  • @hxcvocalist
    @hxcvocalist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I first learn the name in Kings and Generals series about the mongol invasion.

  • @nehon746
    @nehon746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had no idea that we were friends with these guys! (I am bulgarian)

    • @meersiinlii235
      @meersiinlii235 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      your ancestors are turkic

    • @greatkhan5420
      @greatkhan5420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yep Bulgars ancestors are Turks welcome to Turkic family son :)

    • @ЇаннъЄархъ
      @ЇаннъЄархъ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@greatkhan5420 Yet, not a single proof that can support the "turkic" origin of the Bulgars.

    • @wargreysama
      @wargreysama 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ЇаннъЄархъ well technically name supports it but meh

    • @ЇаннъЄархъ
      @ЇаннъЄархъ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Greymon The name ? What about the names of the “turkic” Bulgar rulers (none of turkic origin) How come there is such a huge lack of archaeological, anthropological and linguistic data? Not to mention that dozens of genetic studies have been conducted on the Bulgarian population from which it became clear that there were none of the haplogroups (Q,C and O) which are common for the Turkic peoples.It is funny how we have plenty of anatolian turks here repeating like parrots “The Bulgars are turks” and their only argument is the the root of the ethnonym “Bulga” (mix/mixed/to mix) but hey this ethnonym means a lot of things in different languages too.

  • @kespec
    @kespec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    you mention of turkic and kipchak as if they are two separate things and this creates a convoluted mess. this is wrong, Kipchak is a subfamily of Turkic peoples. Kipchak, Oghuz, Karluk are all turkic peoples who share a similar culture and language.

  • @EhreManav
    @EhreManav 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly there were no mentioning about the Manavs who are descends of the Cumans who migrated to Anatolia

  • @yeldos
    @yeldos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice video, i think western historians don't pay enough attetion to kipchak history

    • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
      @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! There is some scholarship, but it isn't as well known, especially outside of specialists. One of my hopes with these series is to spark interest in more people in these topics, and expand their historical thinking, which seems mostly limited to Greece, Rome, the Crusades and then the Second World War, especially on TH-cam.

    • @DarkKhagan
      @DarkKhagan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes A
      Yes, sadly for the most part Western historians are biased and clueless. I'm very grateful for learning about my ancestral culture, history, language and traditions. I was taught by my father and a number of University professor's that were personal friends of our family from Hungary, so I was very fortunate.

    • @HeadhuntexGamer
      @HeadhuntexGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkKhagan can you name me one group of historians that arent biased? We westerners certainly are the least ones. You wont see modern mongolians or turks ashamed of their past and trying to rewrite it

    • @HeadhuntexGamer
      @HeadhuntexGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea we dont, because it didnt affect West Europe so yea makes sense and I dont blame us so badly. But definetly Czechs, Hungarians and Bulgarians pay attention to it though.

    • @DarkKhagan
      @DarkKhagan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeadhuntexGamer
      No offense intended, I was merely stating something I had encountered years ago studying in my American (High School) World History class. So when I say Western, I'm mainly referring to the American History book's that I read in highschool. The textbooks were not really accurate about the Avars and Magyars.
      I will give a small bit of information that many may not know. The Arpadian Confederation of Ten Tribes (7 Magyar tribes) and 3 joint tribes including the remnants of
      1) The Avars
      2) The dissident
      Kavars (Kabars) tribes who joined from the Revolt against the Khazars and
      3) The Transylvanian frontier guards The Sekély
      Btw, the entire Magyar Army and nation did not go on kalandvágy (wanderlust adventure raids) like was previously assumed.
      On every mission, the Magyars forces undertook, whether it was just two groups of 10000 horseman or more had to be carefully decided upon in advance and all the preparations where made according to what the mission entailed.
      Another thing that wasn't really mentioned was the many places where the 9th-10th Magyars appeared throughout Europe, example: The German states, like Bavaria, and Franconia, many Magyars were employed as mercenaries and the other places they appear was due to internal politics like feuding members of the families would call upon the Magyars to help tip the balance in their favor.
      Also not the entire Magyar army would participate in the so called raids of western Europe. A good example is the sacking of the Cathedral in Aachen, it contained all of the Avar treasures that was sacked when Charlemagne waged his ruthless war against the Avars. So the remaining Avars peaceful joined the ranks of the Magyar warriors in retaliation and took back the Avar treasures.

  • @yusufalyassi5132
    @yusufalyassi5132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:45 name of the music please

  • @yess___smiracle1168
    @yess___smiracle1168 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kumyks in the North Caucasus.
    Kumyks- Cumans are Kipchaks with Oguz dialect.