[ENG SUB] 200827 Solarsido Livestream - Solar addresses the hate regarding Eric Nam
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- Mamamoo solar responded to a question asking about the bad comments Eric Nam kfans have been posting about mamamoo for the past 4 years.
Solar spoke about Eric Nam on her Solarsido Livestream on 27 August 2020: • [LIVE] 궁금한 것들 싹 다 말해드림...
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Eric Nam addressing the hate regarding Solar, Mamamoo and WGM: • Video
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Eric Nam also spoke about the hate they got because of wgm here: th-cam.com/video/Q2AkfIN6Sb0/w-d-xo.html
For context, he recorded it January 2020 so it was before news of the lawsuit came out.
Edit: to clarify about the "lawsuit". Kmoos have collected evidence of malicious comments from a group of eric kfans and are pressing charges. Before this, we had no idea that some knams were doing this. If you look through the comments of this video, you can find more details if you are interested. Moos aren't completely innocent in this situation either. As solar said, the hate and hostility from both fandoms needs to stop. It is affecting them both negatively.
What's with the lawsuittt?!!! But. I really do hope they do a cool challenge together. Maybe we should mention it to Eric Nam's social media accounts!! Just hoping. Hope it really happens
Honestly i was really hoping that they would be friends or keep in contact even after the show because their relationship was cute..but i didnt know that they were getting hate because of it..omg fans need to wake up and realize that the idols are human too..they can be friends with who ever they want and even be in a relationship with anyone. THE IDOLS ARE NOT YOURS. THEY ARE HUMANS. LET THEM LIVE THEIR LIFE.
That's all i have to say. Thank you😌
I haven’t heard about a lawsuit. Can you explain?
@yo lo nam nation is his fandom's name
Those stupid fans. What kind of fans made the one they idolize suffer 🙄
Sad she had to clarify and ask fans to stop, again. They are hard working artists who get along. 😒
Whats the matter? Can you please clarify me.......?
@@binjinririjeongmin3896 bcs they dont have any feeling toward each other (1:31 we just like eachother as 'colleagues'), wgm is fake ass show
Also, damn 3.7k likes just in three days lol i cant relate
@yo lo yes they always mistaken moonbyul's gesture
@@binjinririjeongmin3896 if I remember I think it was actually mostly because she changed her number right after the show ended, which kinda made it look like she was ghosting him
some fans are just stupid and need to realise that idols are humans and shouldn't be obsessed with to the point of having delusions where they hate other idols because of fake love interests*
Agreee
Totally agree!
Yes! Fans are too much sometimes. They truly IDOLize them like gods that it becomes an unhealthy obsession & delusion.
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And if they do get real love interests it should not be a subject of debate and hate among the fans either coz duh they're humans they fall in love at some point
This isnt just for eric nam and mamamoo fans , this is literally for every toxic fan from no matter which fandom........... you all need to understand that your actions are creating problems for your idols too, and these fanwars are making them awkward
I am really proud that solar addressed this issue, cause its high time fans understand that these fanwars are affecting the friendships of idols and its embarrassing for them
Honestly the toxic and bullshit fandoms are the main reason that kpop keeps getting shat on for. Every single fandom, no matter how wholesome the idol is, has to be toxic for some reason, defending their idols in situations they make up from nothing. Its a fuckin cesspit. Enjoy the music, dont touch the fandoms, don't even look at them.
So true! 👏👏👏 Everytime I see a hate or negative comments on an artists video just to uplift their biases I always respond with "stop! Don't embarrass your bias with that attitude!" It always works.
@Taej i became an army in 2015 too, and ik how army and exol thing got worse around the end of 2016 , just how armys vs blink thing has become now.......but honestly, exo and bts have been friends even when the fanwars were worse between their fandoms, now it has become a lot better, i think its just that exo and bts members have become really busy and exo isn't attending much award shows too, plus the members have started enlisting too so that is the reason we dont see much interactions of exo and bts members.......but definitely these fanwars do make things really awkward for idols and that is what i really hate.
That's why I'm not in any fandom. I listen to kpop because of the music and the idols. Fandoms need to chill and just support their biases works which is their music.
Guys, I am lot really following the news on either Eric or Mamamoo I just support their music and what they do so I have no idea what happen, can someone please explain ? Although from what I have gathered it is a again stupid "fans" being rude/mean....
so basically toxic knetz destroyed another celeb friendship
@@carlxox797 They were never friends to begin with?? People need to stop random shipping, look how Chanrose has gotten Rose into some awful rumours recently.
The toxic fans actually
@@kc2513 EXACTLY
also bold of you to assume that jk and lisa isn’t friends. i mean we never know who’s friends with who. of course idols may not show it on tv because of delusional fans but who knows what’s happening off screen. as an army, i do know that our fandom is one of the scariest ones because of those toxic and immature. so please let’s not assume everything. whether their relationships, friendships, etc.
we are just their fans. we know nothing but their on screen personalities.
as always tbh
She's brave for calling out both their fans, not every artists can do that. Others just keep silent or tend to be over protective to their fans. I think that's another reason why fans get toxic, they don't get called out by their idols.
All kpop idols should do this more often. If their fans are misbehaving, they should tell them to stop..
@@daphnedaphn3 Exactly. They should call their fans out if they cross the line. These toxic fans are just nasty. Always controlling and demanding the artists. Its awful.
Tbh I get why they don't call out their fans. Yes, idols should do that but it's just a matter of accidentally saying the wrong thing or something and then that idol would never hear the end of it and get hated on endlessly especially if it's a huge grp like BP or BTS.
That is why I appreciate mamamoo so much more.
Can we just be happy for Solar for calling out the fans without putting down other idols? Jesus. We don't need to put down other idols to hype up the ones we like.
I hope eric sees this and do a cool challenge on solarsido with solar that will be a cool reunion hehe
how do we get him to see this keke
Yahhh i know...i hope that happend too😑🤧❤❤
nah stop it....fans need to leave them be..i dont want any more hate coming to solar from eric fans...if they did something together again haters are gonna attack again and i dont want that
@@whatever45892 it could happen (unless) eric told his fans to not hated solar, (IF) his fans want to hear their idol
@@whatever45892 Nah its good so that both Mamamoo and Eric fans can get over the shipping and also stop spreading rumours that she hates him or whatever
I'm Eric's and Mamamoo's fan. Everyone, just be both's fans. You won't regret it anyway.
those who are spreading hate, aren't real fans at all....they're just haters who just want to see the world burn
@@isftish that's just more sad. That is how some people spend their free time. Hate's such a waste of time
@@christopherherr7561 i view it as a psychopathic issue.....haters get nothing but kicks out of causing hurt and turmoil.....it makes them feel great about themselves....
that is why, we must not succumb to trolls and haters.....we must not allow them to successfully cancel anything simply for their pure pleasure and nothing else.
best way is to ignore....haters are mostly incapable of doing anything more effective than vomiting hate thru their keyboard.
@@isftish There are haters that come from a place of anger, whether it's projected self-hatred or unresolved hatred towards someone else. not necessarily bad people, just misguided.
The second type, as you say, are psychopathic. There's nothing that can be done for them. I try not to worry about things I can't control.
For the former, look at them with pity. For the latter, do your best to avoid them.
@@christopherherr7561 I agree. there are many who simply jump on the bandwagon, because so many other people are doing it.
Either way, we must never enable such a culture, where people can get conveniently offended, and everyone else has to change their lives, just to satisfy those few people .....and we all know....those people will NEVER be satisfied.
Both eric and solar are really brave for addressing this issue so people better listen to them. Stop calling yourself a "fan" if all you can do is hurting your idol and people around them. Funny how people getting mad over agencies by saying they restricted their idols to do what they want when actually it's those people who did it.
Exactly !
So damn correct they blame their intentions on the company when it's them that's the problem
This makes me scared for when they start to date. If "fans" react like that to a fake relationship, just imagine how they will react to a real one.....
Those people have no fucking right to interfere with the idols' personal lives, period.
most of the moomoos actually doesn't give too much care if ever mmm will date someone, the reason why moomoos get angry is because of the constant hatred mmm receive from EN fans since the WGM, they said something bad not only toward solar but also to other members
ps. this comment if not to hate EN, I actually like him because he's such a gentleman.
Start to date? I mean Solar is nearly 30; she is definitely dating. We just don’t know about it. I guess you mean ‘start dating openly,’ and yes, I worry about that too 😔
@@rainyrainrain2893 I don't think Eric agrees with you there, because I doubt his own fans would send him threats and shit, and he still gets hate for this and is afraid to even talk about it, 4 damn years later. He hesitantly talks about it on his podcast if you want to look it up.
@@booknerdjebbi5037 wait I'm a bit lost 😅, I never mention thou that EN received hate from HIS fans.
Wtf Eric has said nothing but good things about mamamoo. Why can't these fans get a life? That show was years ago. Get over it.
No hate just a Correction : she addressed it to his fans and mmm’s fans. Get your facts Straight cause you might be misleading other people too.
@yo lo yes but she's/he's talking about that those fans has no reason to talk about mamamoo because eric doesn't have a problem with them
@@imchalongchar5342 she/he was talking about that eric has no problem with the girls then why his fans are talking sht? she's/he's not saying that eric is the problem.
@@triviajjunie9896 I get your point but the way it’s written is misleading.
@@imchalongchar5342 it's not misleading if you read more than just the first sentence. "why can't THESE FANS get a life?" It's right there. the comment is basically "they don't have a problem with each other, so why can't FANS just drop it?"
I love how Solar is adressing this. Idols should openly tell their fans to stop all the hate.💖💖💖
I legit have so much respect for her. A lot of idols vaguely comment about fan hate but she is directly telling fans to the specific issue causing it
I want Naeun speak about haters on her WGM era i have DOUBT on it
@@kholidamsolikhah0373 Naeun is a soft soul with a soft image though so its unlikely. But its insane that LOTS are still hating on her even yearsss later. People gotta chill.
@@WitchlightNW yessss crazy fans won't do with just vague callouts. They have to be told up front to shut the heck up. Though im sure other idols probably want to do that too but they probably arent allowed because of their image. But Mamamoo already have this carefree, i-give-no-shts image. So its probably easier for them to speak up
Bts really needs to do this. Armys are just bringing down every group that is competition
Basically, everyone needs to get over themselves and leave Eric and Solar alone.
i just wanna say that i'm glad that both solar and eric nam (on his podcast) addressed these issues and they're very brave to do that because usually when idols are faced these problems, sometimes their management would restraint them for talking about it and just act like nothing happened. now that it has been made very clear by your faves, i hope the fans can please just mind your own business and support your artist without giving hate to the others.
yea exactly, this is usually something that you'll never actually hear acknowledged from the idols themselves even when you can sense or infer that something is off/wrong. I'm glad they spoke out about it and please, those ppl should take it seriously
hii i’m new can u pls tell me what happened between them 🥺
Pear Ave I love your message as a fan of Eric Nam and a Stan of Mamamoo, I agree with what you said. Seriously, as a real fan, I loved that they did WGM, not only did it give them more exposure, but it gave me a warm feeling inside seeing them together even though I knew it wasn't real. Its like watching a RomCom, without the prolonged script and actual actors playing the roles. It was beautiful while it last. But with the crazy Moomoos and Nams, I was disappointed in them. They took a show that clearly stated it was fake, and made it bad. MoonSun isn't real, its fan made! That is what I feel like screaming in each of these idiots faces. As a fellow Moomoo, I an ashamed and embarrassed as well as attacked, because of this four year pettiness, between crazy Moomoos and Nams.
You can see Solar constantly looking at her side, probably her manager warning her to be careful with her words, but Solar just went head-on with the issue and stated facts, same with Eric. These very hard working & sincere people do not deserve all the hate when all they did in WGM was care for each other.
It sucks bc solar and eric nam's dynamics is just so enjoyable to watch. They could be doing cool and fun collabs but it's tough when their fans are at each other's throats.
Seeing Eric + Mamamoo at KContact was really nice - they looked like they were having a lot of fun. That's how it should be. It floors me that there are Kpop fans could hate on their fave artists and not want them to be romantically involved, whether it's manufactured or real. Fans are meant to be admirers and do not own people as if they're slaves, jeez. These are artists with feelings, too, and they're just there to do and share what they love to do.
Is there a video link?
4 years is a long time to hate on people ,especially when they don't really know those people.
No one owns idols ,they are there own people who ,can work out there own personal issues.
sad how people keep bringing this up even after 4years. They should get a life.
"hatred" towards idols, or otherwise publically known figures they don't really know is more often than not, projected self-hatred or just misprojected hatred towards someone else they know in life.
I never hated idols but I used to have misplaced hatred in my life, and know people who are still like this, so I can tell where it comes from.
One thing I love about solar is that she's so outspoken and doesn't take anyone's bullshit. I haven't listened much to Eric Nam or kept up with him recently (though "can't help myself" is a bop and on my daily playlist) but I love him and I love solar and it breaks my heart to see so many "fans" being so toxic toward their (professional) relationship. I doubt these "fans" will listen to Solar's words, but I appreciate and admire her telling them to fuck off.
woah imagine if other idols also did this and speak up about the hate their fans spread. i admire her so much!
When eric kissed solar on cheeks then people literally spammed whole comment section with "moonbyul is jealous, solar's wife hwasa must be jealous, hwasa was going to punch eric". I was literally so confused because I didn't knew anything about mamamoo. I just watched wgm for entertainment. My mind was blank at that moment and for a second I really thought that solar is really in a relationship with her group member. That's how some fans make it look like.its going too far nowadays. Some fans literally send death threats to both solar and eric but eric's case was worse. He got bashed very badly. So, in conclusion please be respectful and don't ruin idol's friendship for your fantasy.
Edit- some people saying its a joke.. Should I laugh at this? Because I clearly got shocked by reading comments.. That video was about wgm and solar eric couple.. But people saying solar is gay /lesbian.. Is this funny to you?! It was literally the whole comments section filled with that...
No it's not
They just normalize the corny jokes of mmm being together
Shipping Mamamoo with each other is very common in the fandom because they're obviously so close that they're comfortable with skinships, but I have to agree with you that the jokes can sometimes become delusional fantasies. Some fans need to get to their senses and stop such nonsense because it makes Mamamoo and other idols uncomfortable
At lot of the shipping comments are just jokes, it’s the ones which cross line by throwing hate are problematic.
Like when I was watching it I was like ooo Moonbyul gonna be mad, but in a fun way because I know how close they are. But there are some Moomoo's that believes the hype. Every time I see comments that seem serious I always be like "chill people, you really think the members are in secret relationships with one another, come on! All that stuff Mamamoo does on stage is fan service. The way Mamamoo is strong and we do what we want and not afraid of criticism, probably would've said something by now."
@@maggy1944 Truth, I watch those ship videos, and I am like these people are really good at editing. Not, OMG, they are so together. I sometimes see those comments and I'm like to myself, really, are you that gullible, come on; get smart.
The fact that she said my fan and Eric nam's fan. She knows both side are doing something wrong
Let's not throw just Eric's fans under the bus here, moomoos are guilty too, especially moonsun shippers really got angry about it. Both sides have to take responsibility and stop sending hate to the other.
...isn‘t that exactly what she said? Like, she addressed both mamamoo and Eric Nam fans?
That's true... The moonsun ship has a tendency to go completely overboard with the ship. It was seen in Solar's live. Solar was clearly uncomfortable with the comments about the ship
I am a MoonSun shipper, but in a if only if only way, like hmm interesting, this is probably what they would look like if they were attracted to each other in any sort of way possible. But, they're not, just really close and best friends. And that is bad, because crazies in the fandom are really going to believe they are really together. I am a Moomoo, but unlike some of these Moomoos, I know when its real or not. Love their chemistry, wish, but maybe will never happen.
U didnt seem to have actually listened to what Solar said. She threw both sides under the bus.
Said said the SAME thing
Solar is just such a strong woman. I love how she addresses serious situations instead of trying to hide her pain. GO SOLAR!
People really making it a toxic break up when they weren’t even in a relationship. It’s was a show like four years ago ong
do you know where can I watch the full episodes??
True.
@@mamamoofoeva1125 kisstvshow.to/Show/We-Got-Married-Season-4/Episode-316?id=6543 this is their first episode Eric Nam and Solar couple
@@beautiful-life321 tysm!!
Another episode of Ddongi Road would be a wish come true... I love seeing them eat together
same here...2020 almost 2021. and still waiting their comeback (?) mukbang show. huhuu
I really love them when they did the WGM but why the fans are keep hating them i don't understand
Plus if you're a fan, you must be happy for them for whatever they did.
Exactly! I love both of them and that show introduced me to Eric and they're both so cool. I don't understand why they are getting hate. The stans and antis need to stop.
Well WGM is always like that, usually the girl who always get the hate. Ex: naeun and taemin, solar and eric, yewon and henry. And you'll see who get the most hate? The girl. I feel sad for them 😢
@@wptlzkmb being a girl just gets more hate, this goes for online personalities as well. i’ve seen more females than males in hate forums and sometimes they’re not even being called out for proper reasons, just petty ones. i can’t imagine what idols have to go through daily, who’s job is literally to be loved/admired by people.
Seems to me theres a lot of jealous and coward people hiding behind their social media accounts...
Honestly nothing good ever comes out of WGM. Almost every idol that participated in the show got hate from the opposite party’s fandom. I don’t know why companies would put their idols through the show knowing this would happen..
They may get some hate but the participants get exposed to the general audience. They get fixed TV airtime on a popular show to show their charms. A lot of them are upcoming stars people vaguely know only their names..
Idols can't stop going to tv show just because some of their fans acts with hate. We need to normalize it, so immature fans will get used to it.
Yongseo couple were really loved back then
It’s not the companies’s fault. It’s the immature fan’s fault
Idol gain a lot of exposure tho going to WGM. Most of idol that become a cast in WGM is fairly popular rn such as joy, naeun, bomi, henry and so many more. The wrong thing here is fans who crosses the line. Not the program itself.
I hope i-moomoos stop asking Solar about Eric or to collaborate with him. Just let them be. If they want to naturally they can, but stop putting them on the spot & pressuring them.
Why would you say "I - moomoos" ?? The person who asked that to solar is LITERALLY a korean person. Korean fans always get crazy about their idols dating someone. I-moos don't, we cool with that
@@lindaiglesias2176 i saw a lot of i moos commenting this tho.... I think you're being a bit sterotypical about koreans
linda iglesias i think u misread their comment wrong. She said ifans are always asking for collabs and challenges with Eric. Ofc ifans are cool with dating.
@@snatchmywigplease5979 Yuh, cuz she is doin the same thing towards International fans
I'm glad Solar address led both fandoms. I was one of the people who got bullied by toxic ms shippers just because I was very vocal that I liked Solar and Eric together on WGM. It had a huge effect on my mental health back then, but that I already forgave them for what they did.
So sorry you met those kind of "fans".
Fans are just being stupid. I pity them. Lots of older active idols now end up still single old bachelors or had to hid their marriage out of fear. That will be the same fate of these idols who are so called loved by their obsessive fans. Old obsessive fans gets old, get married and left but new young obsessive fans take over. There is no life for these idols. The true slavery in idol world are caused the fans.
It is so depressing and sad.... It makes me cry when I see my Idols which are 30+ in age and are yet single. Even when a few of them have simple dreams like *have a happy family of my own*
And it's all because these stupid immature fans don't understand that they are *humans as us and have a life of their own*
If we can date and get married why the hell can't our precious Idols do that??!!! They are made to choose between their idol career or a normal happy life. 😭😭😭😭
Idols are married to thier fans
@@aymenjelliti3712 forced to married to the fans Yes.
@@mystarl160 Sorry but normal koreans marriage age is among 36-40 these days. They are suffering to get employed and settle in to the society. So according to that information. Celebrities 30+ single, just normal. That also includes East Asian countries like China and Japan as well
@@hsl81816 that's a society issue that shouldn't impact idols who are both wealthy and attractive. Also it's something that should be worked against, not accepted as a norm.
solar is so strong to talk about this because generally idols tend to avoid these ques and situation so cool
I just don't understand when we as human being became so self centered and possessive, we all know we're gonna die at some stage in our life so why can't we just try to side away our egos.
If there is really a god above then he must be so disappointed on us.
Honestly, the only reason why they are awkward around each other is because of the fans. The immature and really delusional fans keep hating on solar and Eric which is making them feel uncomfortable. They don’t wanna receive hate so I act distance but then that gets misunderstood with them hating each other but if they were affectionate, they’d get hate cuz they were “betraying their fans” by dating even if they aren’t. Fans grew more and more immature and overprotective as kpop became popular. I also kinda wished idols would stop the “I only belong to my fans” bullshit because all it does is bring up the fan’s hopes. I get it’s fan service but it also does a lot of damage. I’ve seen ARMYS always use the excuse “but bts said we were their girlfriends” when there is some sort of dating rumor that affect BTS. Like yes the rumor is false but even if it wasn’t, they aren’t your boyfriends 😀✋
What really happened
this is coming from a army from 4 years and yes it's true and since our fandom is kinda the biggest we have lots of immature fans who literally act like they own bts (mostly some crazy solo stans who don't even let other armys live in peace) but mostly armys joke around (on twitter) and would be really happy if they get a gf i just hope every kpop idol can date freely :(
But moonsun shipper throw hate comment too. I saw hate comment to eric several times. Both fans who throw hates is so annoying, and then blame each other like 'Eric fans did that' 'Moonsun shippers did that'.
My english soo terrible, but I just wanna say both of toxic fans are annoying and ruin their friendship+fandom
That is precisely why she talked to both fandoms 😊
that’s why she told both fandoms to stop
No ship.
I read monsoon lol
@@makesmewannadie647 😅😅
So, people if you're going to ship someone with another person, close or not, just keep them to yourselves. I personally want to see mamamoo as a band to go a long successful way for the years to come, and I don't want any personal opinions to get in the way, because they had such a hard time to reach this place and most definitely they deserve more success and they are capable of doing so. Also, even if they seem like they have something more than a friendship (ships between band members), it's not our concern, let them be a human for once. Lastly, be a real moomoo and be respectful for others, even if you're not a moomoo, be that fan that your idols will be proud to have you as a fan, (respectful to their privacy and doesn't drag other fandoms, etc). I don't want to see another fifth harmony (camren shippers really destroyed a friendship), if you know what I mean, you know what I mean.
This
I hope we'll see Eric Lam on Solarsido, and to show that both Eric & Solar are still friendly with each other, and both fandoms should stop harassing each other (although I don't think most MooMoo did it).
Me too, not just a collab but to address this whole thing once and for all. I know it’s not their responsibility to fix this problem since they were not the people who started the “hate throwing” but i wanted them to tell the fans and antis point blank from their own words to just stop. I know they both have said their share on separate accounts but saying it for the last time in the same time together would send a very clear message without misunderstanding.
@@4withsun_byul I think at this point it doesn’t matter if moomoos didn’t start it. Both parties got hurt and both ends are second guessing interacting with each other because of this. When this started blowing up I won’t put it past moos to reply with some harsh words, but I don’t blame them either. Something or someone must have triggered them badly to throw hurtful words. Regardless, I still thinks it best for them to address this once and for all together.
@@4withsun_byul Now that I have read this it puts things into perspective for me. I never really knew what happened during that time period. A few questions though, 1. does Eric Nam know of these fans behavior? Because the way he told the story about the issue (Dive Studio), granted he didn’t say much, it seemed like moomoos were equally at fault. Which based on the summary you sited, is not the case at all.
2.Does Solar unnie know the root cause of these whole issue?
3. Where there any response from both parties’ agency?
4. Are they still doing it today? (Eric Nam’s fans)
Sorry for taking your time, I just wan’t to know what happened during these times. I don’t know how to defend Solar (if I ever encounter these people) if I don’t enough details about the situation.
@@little_ms_anne1021 I think I can answer of your questions. Granted, I do not know everything.
1. At the time eric recorded the video, the things his kfans did were not known (to ifans at least). Kmoos began collecting funds to press charges against a "group of mamamoo antis" in december 2019. In march 2020, a kmoo let imoos on twitter know that this group of antis were eric nam kfans. Also, eric is active on sns so directly receives and see all hate sent his way in places we cant see so it's hard to objectively judge things as a fan. So I rather trust what the artists say.
2. I am assuming solar is up to date on the situation because rbw announced on 29 august 2020 that they will be moving forward with pressing charges based on the evidence kmoos collected. In order to press charges, permission is needed from the victims (I.e. mamamoo). So it is likely that she had a good idea of what was going on when she said this on her livestream on 27 August.
3. RBW has only announced that they will be pressing charges against malicious commenters with evidence sent in by moos. No specific mention of eric nam fans were made. Eric's agency hasnt made any formal comments on the situation.
4. Yes apparently they are. Kmoos have said that they have collected evidence over 3-4 years of these commenters and they are still continuing until this day even though charges are being pressed. This group of his kfans are known as "ejums" and honestly they need help. They are obsessed with hating on mamamoo. They seem to be the oldest fans in his kfandom. I've gotten word from newer more active knams who said they weren't around during wgm and didnt know anything. Disclaimer: this is just what I was told the actual situation could be different.
A side note: lawsuits take a very long time. Currently, rbw and kmoos are still in the process of suing these malicious commenters. It takes at least 1 year to settle these kinds of things.
To protect solar, as a fan all you need to do is respect her and her decisions. People just need to not make a big deal of eric and mamamoo interactions. They are colleagues, overlap in schedules is bound to happen. Fans have made things uncomfortable for them and that is sad. We cant control the actions of obsessed anti fans but we can control our own. Dont spam her with comments about eric. But in the same manner, be supportive/respectful if they ever decide to collab/mention eachother.
@@4withsun_byul Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I’ll definitely take note of this.
I don’t know when these “fans” want their idols to start dating, 40??? Y’all need to stop being toxic af and let them enjoy themselves. If you’re truly a fan, you would be happy for them and KNOW they’re mature enough to date whoever they want to date
i wish i could understand why people can't just let it go, it's been almost 5 years. they're just friends, and even if they dated we should be happy and wish them all the best. why make things complicated and be so selfish about it.
I applaud her for speaking up about this!
She said it pls in general stop fanwars stop hard shipping they are gerting uncomfortable
thank you for the vid and subtitle. really appreciate it 💐 hope we can see their project together soon. hiks 🤞
"WHAT MORE DO I NEED TO SAY?" SAY IT LOUDER!!
Thankyou so much for being open like this Solar, really appreciate it. I really hope Eric Nam will be able to do the challenge in Solarsido too!
Im thankful that Solar and mamamoo have been my favorite k-artists. She is just always vocal like this to her fans, having the initiative to solve issues and clear things out so negativity in the fandom doesn't fester. Queens, literally
아니 진짜 왜 그러냐,,,왜 팬들끼리 서로 싸우고 욕하고 왜 그러냐,,진짜,,,솔라하고 애릭남하고 싸운것도 아닌데 그냥 서로 친하게지내는데 왜 팬들끼리 ㅈㄹ들임? 그럼 울언니가 나중에 팬들눈치봐서 연애를 어떻게하냐,,,
Sucks that people can't enjoy music without all the drama.
I barely ever see idols calling out their fans. This was refreshing. Literally just leave them alone. You guys are taking your fantasies way too far. What does it concern you even if they got married for real? You can’t possibly think they’re going to sacrifice their happiness for their entire lives for random people they’ve never met. Ofc they appreciate your support but you are another face in the crowd. Don’t delude yourself. And stay out of idols business. You claim to want their happiness but even ruin all of their friendships because of this.
The way they had to address this explains how bad the conflict is. Ya'll should stop. You can ship them sure (bcs of the WGM) and you can also don't ship them but stop sending hate comments? You can just ignore and focus on one of them instead. Line wtf stop being so toxic? You see how the friendships are getting broken bc of the fanwars?
I hope she gets to do a challenge with Eric on Solarsido. I'd like them to be able to be friends, despite want Antis say. But for the sake of their feelings I feel bad and I hope they are careful
The fact that she straight up told these toxic fans that their actions are making them awkward with each other. Wish other idols would do the same and tell them to stop all these childish behaviors
I truly loved the way she put in her words. Truly speaking, I have never found any idol addressing such complicated issues in such a modest way. She was jz so cool😘😘😘
I love solar for the way she addresses the issues that make her or her colleagues uncomfortable. She is straightforward and that's so cool of her!
Please listen to her i know fans love to see them together but remember they are humans too and also i dont think ive ever seen solar this serious so this must be effecting her a lot.
Fans who really love their idol, they should not do this things. We are not part of idol personal life. We are part of their professional life. Idol do care about their fans, but that doesn't mean we have right to say bad thing about them.
leave them alone!! respect your artists ❤️
she's really nice
These kind of fans are the reason why there's only a few collaborations between artists nowadays.
0:55 knowing yong, she was really upset abt this
Damn I love this👍👍👍❤️
I love how she addressed fans on both sides and how she’s open to have Eric on her TH-cam cuz now that Daebak show (Eric podcast) is doing episodes in Korean I would love for MAMAMOO members to have an episode either as solo or as a group ♥️♥️
One thing is wrong about boy group/artist fangirls that they just start hating female idols/artists without knowing anything about them. All of them belong to the same industry, it's good for them to be friends. No artist can stay happy with fans not allowing them to interact with their female colleagues or any other colleague just because their fans don't approve of them. I feel bad for BTS like I just hope they're not left alone. Jin once mentioned "alot of people stopped talking to me when I got too famous"
"What more do I need to say?"
Period.
He’s addressed it before but I’m glad she did too... it’s sad what’s become of this.. hopefully one day they can just be normal buddies around each other
I'm happy with how Mamamoo's agency let them speak in public. and Solar is very lucky to have this Solasido channel because it can be a place where she speaks freely to the public. As we all know, almost all artist agencies in Korea severely restrict idols from speaking in public about the problems or scandals that are befalling them
eric should tell his fans too.. to stop that hate and everything. his fans are just- too ridiculous-
edit: uh he already said something abt this on dive studios a few months ago. ok so can just the "fans" stop being delusional about their ships now. they're both uncomfortable bc of the ppl hating one of them.
I think he actually did talk about it a couple of times, he says it when someone asks about solar to him.
as a fan, i'm a little offended lmao, but ik you're saying it to the ones who throw hate on mamamoo. I'm a moomoo and i'm really dissapointed on our eric fans.
@@idkanymore402 yes sorry about that, i really meant the ones who throw hates but sincee most of them are eric's
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Yes,he’s talked about it before on his podcast and you can see that him and Solar are both over this issue but it’s still here after 4 yrs
So wait,MooMoos were fine with shipping Loco & Hwasa but they didn't like Solar & Eric Nam?
I can't wait for their cool challenge in Solarsido. Please make it happen.
She's so brave. 💟
I’m glad she calmed down the Eric Nam obsessed people and the toxic moonsun shippers.
Toxic fans are so disgusting. Get a life, it's not difficult.
Solar was really brave saying this, it’s obvious that she didn’t want Eric to feel bad. She is really a good person. ❤
I love how they both address any issue that comes up about each other. Some idols (because of their company) would just ignore it
I wish she told fans to not interfere in her life in things like who is she friends with or who she dates
Never a kidol would say that, even If this were how they feel.
@@Luuhpan I know... it's sad
@@Luuhpan maybe if a lot of fans ask for it...
bro his fans who say bad things and spread rumoured about solar are truly disgusting. i applaud rbw cause they sued them and got compensated. solar is so kind and she doesn't deserve this hate.
also he should also tell his fans to stop with the comments i dont see him trying to calm the situation even though its been years but when it comes to bringing solar and mamamoo fans that how bad we are, he doesn't hesistate
He addressed the situation on his podcast
Strawberry Turtle eric talked about all the hate he was getting. But he didnt talk about his fans harassing solar for years. So he did address the situation but not all sides. So this video with Solar she talks about both sides.
@@layloo5244 yes thank you. That's why when some moos say that he is just doing it for the clout im almost inclined to believe that..since none of us knew how idols are really like in real life, their struggles im stopping myself from going on an eric hate bandwadon
@@paramini08 he literally did.. when he addressed this, he talked about how Solar and him were both uncomfortable and that the hate likely went both ways..He can't talk about her pain specifically (obv) bc he didn't experience her side. But he did acknowledge and did say that the hate was going both sides, I really don't see why ya'll are bashing him
Why do people dislike them both🙄🙄🙄 they look so good together tbh, but no matter what, can people just chill and that’s really not cool and will make your artist look bad. It’s just a show, it’s ended so why can’t people just let it go, they both work hard on their own path, can’t you just support them? Even if you can’t support either of them, just leave them alone and let them be, you have no rights to control what they want to do.
Poor Solar and Eric Nam. She said these days? Does that mean they are trying to stay in touch but they have to keep it low-key because of Antis? Smh
That is the only meaning we can extract from Solar’s words
After watching wgm, I was really hoping they would do a collab. But because of those toxic stupid fans, I might never get to see one. It's been years and they still couldn't be comfortable with each other. I HATE IDIOTIC TOXIC DELLUSIONAL FANS. UGH.
It's very sad that fans are still at even after 6 years over a tv show , lm so glad she spoke about ut
as fans, we should support, encourage and respect them
We need more idols to normalize talking about problems like this
Why do fans take those couple shows so seriously to the point that they hate on couples they don't approve of? It is entertainment, and Solar and Eric are on good terms, but can't talk about it bc every single time they mention it, people start throwing hate comments at them. The 10% of people that harbor this weird grudge on idol couples need to stop. It's been literal years since this happened, and tensions to talk about it are still high. Jesus.😞
Can't wait for them collaboration on solarsido
they were such cute friends on we got married. I loved their chemistry as friends and the fact that 4 YEARS AGO!!!!! they did a show, and it causes hate.... its ridiculous. I hope they do a challenge together on solar's channel and reconnect and show these immature fans that no matter what, their hate won't tear people apart
where do I get the full episodes??
This is what I don't get with some k-fans. Why dictate your idols what they can and can't do? You don't own them. Let them be!
Eric Nam is a mamamoo fan. he's a moo but afraid to tell ppl abt it because of these close minded fans
I don't understand why some fans do that..let them be at peace...I love them both. Let them live their lives! Spread love not hates 🙏
It’s really sad though that both had to address this problem
This livestream was a mess not only this one, but her other one as well. Wgm is dead fans need to stop asking about Eric Nam when show ended years ago. Not only that, us Moomoo had to witness delusional fans asking sexual question about Moonbyul. I get that shipping idols is a trend and that’s fine as long as you keep it to yourselves, but to force you’re fantasy ship on them is idiotic and you need to seek help. Mamamoo has stated 100000000000 times that they are like sisters, but also Solar is like their mother. Moonbyul also said that she turns to Solar whenever something worries her to ask for advice because Solar is their big sister......I’ve seen a lot fans comment on variety show when Moonbyul mentioned her ideal type and her past relationship saying that it’s hard to believe that she’s straight and maybe she doesn’t want to say that she’s gay because of Korea being conservative.. like wtf?
Please stop and respect the girls.
Lol i read those comments too, and i was like "wtf with these people?!"
@@kpoprooms4538 Yeah and they still do it which is annoying. The delusional shipping is getting out of hand. The other day I saw a couple of comments saying "oh Moonbyul loves Solar they are real, they cant be fake" etc, etc.
@@moomoo2271 I remember when Byul said on her IG live, she has to take care of her Unnie which is Solar because she doesn't have older sisters, and i know Byul is very supportive towards all members too. She said Solar and her members are like her family. But, since i became a fan of Moonbyul, i can't deny those delusional shippers that already crossed the line. I mean, it's getting annoying me. And i'm mad at those people who made some analyzed-videos about MoonSun that lead new people who know Mamamoo at very first time thinking that they're really a couple. Idk what i'm talking about, but i really wanted to talk my own perspective about this problem.
@@kpoprooms4538 I've watched the videos you're talking about and it pisses me off. IF those people were real MOOMOOs then they know how uncomfortable it made Solar and Moonbyul just by looking at their facial expressions, especially during VLIVE and youtube livestream.
This isn't just applicable to Eric Nam and Mamamoo's fans but to the entire kpop fandom as well. Y'all ever wonder why your favs don't interact? Well, this is exactly why. It's not the artists' fault, it's the toxic fans who are at fault. They're the reason why a lot of famous kpop groups are always so awkward around each other or entirely ignore one another. If one of the idol so much as reacts or makes a face, fans are so fuxking quick to jump and assume shit.
It's just exhausting, honestly.
Our cool leader so proud of her 😍
Seeing this again made me sad and mad huhuhu
They did nothing wrong for God sake;;; what's wrong with those fans?
Solar looked really sad through this. I feel like she and Eric are genuinely friends but can't visibly show this as it will get hostile.
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Ano nanaman ba problema ng mga toxic at immature fans na yan? Nanggigigil nako sa kanila ah. Matagal ko ng pangarap na mapanood ulit na magduet si Solar at Eric Nam. Hanggang ngayon naghihintay pa rin ako. Fans from all over the world... Please, please, please, keep in mind that idols are not our possession. They are human who have their own lives and decisions. Fans are made to support idols from their dreams and to love them as fans. Idols are not puppets to do what fans want them to do. Please, don't make things difficult for our idols. Let them live how they want. It's their lives.
Both of them are really mature and they show it in the way they handled this situation. I'm sure Solar feels just as bad or even worse than Eric about the hate he gets so I'm glad she finally addressed it. I'm thinking she probs had to sit down and think about what to say so as not to get her own fans upset.
I got into Eric Nam because of Solar on WGM, I went to his concert when he was touring and I'm still a big Moo! I don't know why fans of either side had to make this an ongoing issue, please get on with your lives
I really hope I can see Eric Nam and Solar again, both were my favorite singer
I think this was needed. When things like this occur, artist who cares for their fans should be called out for them to be aware of how the artists really feel about the situation. Otherwise, they will assume that’s ok and is pleasing the artists by throwing hate
pls i hope other groups tell theirs fabs this too
Sorry but Moonsun shippers are becoming toxic. I like moonsun, they have a good relationship but who cares about who them are with or how many, just let them be happy. That's the problem of shipping, things are starting to get out of control. I've seen some rude comments in moonbyul's friendship videos too.