Man your pedagogy is one of the best on the Internet. I'm a student of Haz too and I see some similarities of course but you managed to make your own voice and pedagogy. Kudos.
@@DougHinVA I don't understand what you mean. English is not my mother language, seems it's a word from english language anyway. Teaching skills ? That's how you say it ?
One reason more to use optical cues (eg hand gestures) in communication with your dog: you can do it from afar without shouting and as your gets older and his eyes and ears get worse, combining acoustic and optical cues helps elderly dogs to understand better.
Man you are of real value for the dog world future! Not Robert, not Larry, not Tom, but your kind, since you incorporated Jeff's and Sean's (so much hated by hypos) basics with an Ivan's play. And you have courage and brain to lecture. Still. Chup, man!👍😄🙏
What would some punishments be? My dog tends to flip onto her back when I give the no cue, is that ok? She’s pretty submissive in general (she’s 1.3 years old)
Hi Miles! When dog staring at another dog is too much? My 1,5y border collie gets excited around other dogs and any dog we encounter on a walk has his 100% attention. When he was younger he tend to lie down when a dog was in sight. I tought him that it is not acceptable, and associated with consequence. Later he stopped with lying down, but he started just go down a little bit on the paws. I punished out that behaviour almost entirily as well. Now, in the presence of another dog he is not stopping, but he constantly stares with this border collie targeting look that can reach into your soul. Should I punish the excessive staring as well, even though he is walking by my side and not making any moves towards the other dog? Second thing, he does not like to be still and he is constantly whining if told to do so. We are training place command now using one of your latest videos and during long durations sessions he just cannot stop whining. I was waiting for his turning point 1h15m the other day. Only then he shut up and lied down. Should that kind of whining be punished as well or should I just wait it out? I don't really have an idea how to communicate to him properly that he should stop. Even when I use a big correction he is back to whining in couple of seconds.
It sounds like your dog is totally confused and doesn’t know what you want of him/her. The confusion is stressing your dog out. That’s just what it sounds like to me. I could be wrong.
You need to learn more about the genetic makeup of your breed! What you've described is classic Border Collie behavior. They naturally use their eyes to stare down in their herding instincts and focus! They literally direct and herd with their eyes. It is also natural for them to drop down low. This is a natural prey drive their ancestors had and through hundreds of years has been trained to circle, round up, control, and drive livestock. However, due to their extreme intelligence, you can train, redirect and refocus these behaviors with tight Heeling (making the focus on, find, and stay with the leg! To the extent is that the leg is more important than the distractive stimulus.) not the other dog or whatever the fixation is! Another dog, cat, bike, car, bird, etc. In addition, develop a strong recall, and is best done with low level ecollar training! Miles's dog Orbit is a Border Collie.
May I ask when your dog was younger why did you punish those behaviors? If a dog was in sight and your dog just laid down, why’s that a bad thing? It sounds like your dog didn’t do anything wrong and sounds like it’s confused of what your expectations on
@@daveskolnick9643 100% agree with this. I’m not a firm believer of blaming breed characteristics and feeling helpless lol. Like you mentioned there’s always a way to train around it. I watched the vid of miles walking orbit off leash in the park and you don’t see orbit performing any of those “border collie” characteristics. With all due respect, it’s just a handler issue and there’s a lack of communication with handler and dog
It sounds like you’re overly focused on punishing the bad behaviors without reinforcing the good. Focus more on teaching him what behaviors lead to the reward
There's one thing that I am struggling with, with my extremely fearful and reactive dog. When it comes to "punishment", and I know what level of punishment it should be, I feel I'm scaring her, or at risk of scaring her. Her fear is so extreme that after a year, she, for no reason, can act fearful of me. She still is easily startled by somethings in the house. I sometimes get sneezing fits, and that scares the crap out of her. And on occasion, still reacts to her reflection in the window. She also doesn't play with any toys, but does seem to like blankets, as she gets kind of frisky when I wash hers, and put them down around my room. Our relationship feels like she's just living with me. Relies on me for food, water and shelter. I know I'm doing something wrong. It's never the dogs fault. At least that's what I believe.
I'm not an expert, at all, so I don't know if this makes a difference. She needs confidence. Training that includes a lot of succes. Praise and rewards when she does something, even the smallest thing like a sit. Maybe try to encourage her to overcome some of her fears, small ones at first like the reflection in the window. If you are an anxious person yourself, then working on not showing that might help her be more comfortable. Also, don't confirm her fear. If she is startled by you dropping something by mistake, don't go pet her. Just move on like nothing happened. You say she doesn't play with toys, but how do you play with them? Does she have a prey drive you can work with? Mine absolutely loves those mouse on a stick for cats, she goes completely bonkers and ignores everything else chasing those (but take out any electronics, if it has that). This has worked a lot on our engagement and I can use it to distract her from dogs. Again, I'm no expert, but I don't think the points I mentioned can hurt in anyway.
1. Build her self-confidence up. 2. Bonding and trust training. 3. Know her motivators, usually toys or food. Use those to motivate her to do what you'd like her to. 4. Understand and avoid her triggers, trauma, phobias etc. 5. Routine - the more clear you're daily routine, the easier for the dog to fit in. Also keep a dog routine like each day same time walking, food etc. 6. Time - allow yourself and your new dog for months to build a genuine bond. You might ask, how to do all that. Work with a professional trainer who will set up and show you your personalised training programme, or find books, videos etc. on these topics. Each day you train at least 3 times for 15 minutes. And keep in mind you need plenty of patience, especially if you have an already mature dog with a deeper trauma. Good luck!
@@IkkeKendt tried a flirt pole. It made her nervous. "Don't confirm her fear". Yes, I do completely ignore the times she is startled by something. I've made sure to get my 80 year old mom on the same page with this as well. Thank you! I appreciate all of the great advice.
@Swiergotka78 not familiar with "bonding and trust training". As for her motivators, this has been extremely difficult. I really feel that she's on the lazy side, as she's not really motivated to "work" for a reward. Food is all I have since she doesn't play with toys. She is an extremely picky eater (a whole other struggle I have with her). I've tried so many things. She doesn't like dog treats, or dog food in general. So finding something she REALLY likes is tough. Seemed like chicken hearts and gizzards were going to be the trick, but she is losing interest in that.
There can be multiple consequences: Social/Spacial (Using emotion/space as a punishment) Negative punishment (taking something away they want) Positive punishment (Adding something to punish ie: leash pop) What's most important is your consistency. Don't say "NO" without following up with a consequence. Also, YOU don't get to decide what is punishment. The dog does. If the dog eats your leash pop like the Terminator eats bullets then your leash pop wasn't forceful enough.
Ugh that's my dog, she doesn't care about leash corrections at all, and i feel like I'm being quite hard on her. Plus she's on a prong 😬 But when i smack her with a newspaper she covers like she's about to die lol. @@vmon215
Rule 1 was completely stupid. Dog actually understand as many words as a young child. Depending on breed they can understand words even as well as a 7yr old. I have two Jacks that understand the difference in between "my bed" and "your bed". I have a Belgium that literally understands "get the ball" vs "get the rope" and even "get the large ball" vs "get the small ball" there's a show on Netflix this kid needs to watch about it.
Ahh! I found Your channel again! After all these months of searching but couldn't find. You are One of the Best!❤🐶
Man your pedagogy is one of the best on the Internet. I'm a student of Haz too and I see some similarities of course but you managed to make your own voice and pedagogy. Kudos.
LOVE Haz.
'pedagogy' means what to most people? nothing
@@DougHinVA I don't understand what you mean. English is not my mother language, seems it's a word from english language anyway.
Teaching skills ? That's how you say it ?
Yoooooo! We out here having breakthroughs n sh*t from your content. 🤘😎
One reason more to use optical cues (eg hand gestures) in communication with your dog: you can do it from afar without shouting and as your gets older and his eyes and ears get worse, combining acoustic and optical cues helps elderly dogs to understand better.
really good video, pure facts
Man you are of real value for the dog world future! Not Robert, not Larry, not Tom, but your kind, since you incorporated Jeff's and Sean's (so much hated by hypos) basics with an Ivan's play. And you have courage and brain to lecture. Still. Chup, man!👍😄🙏
Genius!
Facts 💯
What would some punishments be? My dog tends to flip onto her back when I give the no cue, is that ok? She’s pretty submissive in general (she’s 1.3 years old)
Hi Miles!
When dog staring at another dog is too much? My 1,5y border collie gets excited around other dogs and any dog we encounter on a walk has his 100% attention. When he was younger he tend to lie down when a dog was in sight. I tought him that it is not acceptable, and associated with consequence. Later he stopped with lying down, but he started just go down a little bit on the paws. I punished out that behaviour almost entirily as well. Now, in the presence of another dog he is not stopping, but he constantly stares with this border collie targeting look that can reach into your soul. Should I punish the excessive staring as well, even though he is walking by my side and not making any moves towards the other dog?
Second thing, he does not like to be still and he is constantly whining if told to do so. We are training place command now using one of your latest videos and during long durations sessions he just cannot stop whining. I was waiting for his turning point 1h15m the other day. Only then he shut up and lied down. Should that kind of whining be punished as well or should I just wait it out? I don't really have an idea how to communicate to him properly that he should stop. Even when I use a big correction he is back to whining in couple of seconds.
It sounds like your dog is totally confused and doesn’t know what you want of him/her. The confusion is stressing your dog out. That’s just what it sounds like to me. I could be wrong.
You need to learn more about the genetic makeup of your breed! What you've described is classic Border Collie behavior. They naturally use their eyes to stare down in their herding instincts and focus! They literally direct and herd with their eyes. It is also natural for them to drop down low. This is a natural prey drive their ancestors had and through hundreds of years has been trained to circle, round up, control, and drive livestock. However, due to their extreme intelligence, you can train, redirect and refocus these behaviors with tight Heeling (making the focus on, find, and stay with the leg! To the extent is that the leg is more important than the distractive stimulus.) not the other dog or whatever the fixation is! Another dog, cat, bike, car, bird, etc.
In addition, develop a strong recall, and is best done with low level ecollar training! Miles's dog Orbit is a Border Collie.
May I ask when your dog was younger why did you punish those behaviors? If a dog was in sight and your dog just laid down, why’s that a bad thing? It sounds like your dog didn’t do anything wrong and sounds like it’s confused of what your expectations on
@@daveskolnick9643 100% agree with this. I’m not a firm believer of blaming breed characteristics and feeling helpless lol. Like you mentioned there’s always a way to train around it. I watched the vid of miles walking orbit off leash in the park and you don’t see orbit performing any of those “border collie” characteristics. With all due respect, it’s just a handler issue and there’s a lack of communication with handler and dog
It sounds like you’re overly focused on punishing the bad behaviors without reinforcing the good.
Focus more on teaching him what behaviors lead to the reward
There's one thing that I am struggling with, with my extremely fearful and reactive dog.
When it comes to "punishment", and I know what level of punishment it should be, I feel I'm scaring her, or at risk of scaring her.
Her fear is so extreme that after a year, she, for no reason, can act fearful of me. She still is easily startled by somethings in the house. I sometimes get sneezing fits, and that scares the crap out of her. And on occasion, still reacts to her reflection in the window.
She also doesn't play with any toys, but does seem to like blankets, as she gets kind of frisky when I wash hers, and put them down around my room.
Our relationship feels like she's just living with me. Relies on me for food, water and shelter.
I know I'm doing something wrong. It's never the dogs fault. At least that's what I believe.
I'm not an expert, at all, so I don't know if this makes a difference.
She needs confidence. Training that includes a lot of succes. Praise and rewards when she does something, even the smallest thing like a sit. Maybe try to encourage her to overcome some of her fears, small ones at first like the reflection in the window.
If you are an anxious person yourself, then working on not showing that might help her be more comfortable. Also, don't confirm her fear. If she is startled by you dropping something by mistake, don't go pet her. Just move on like nothing happened.
You say she doesn't play with toys, but how do you play with them? Does she have a prey drive you can work with? Mine absolutely loves those mouse on a stick for cats, she goes completely bonkers and ignores everything else chasing those (but take out any electronics, if it has that). This has worked a lot on our engagement and I can use it to distract her from dogs.
Again, I'm no expert, but I don't think the points I mentioned can hurt in anyway.
@@IkkeKendt I definitely agree, trained with my shy insecure dog like that and you could never tell now he used be insecure
1. Build her self-confidence up. 2. Bonding and trust training. 3. Know her motivators, usually toys or food. Use those to motivate her to do what you'd like her to. 4. Understand and avoid her triggers, trauma, phobias etc. 5. Routine - the more clear you're daily routine, the easier for the dog to fit in. Also keep a dog routine like each day same time walking, food etc. 6. Time - allow yourself and your new dog for months to build a genuine bond.
You might ask, how to do all that. Work with a professional trainer who will set up and show you your personalised training programme, or find books, videos etc. on these topics. Each day you train at least 3 times for 15 minutes. And keep in mind you need plenty of patience, especially if you have an already mature dog with a deeper trauma. Good luck!
@@IkkeKendt tried a flirt pole. It made her nervous.
"Don't confirm her fear". Yes, I do completely ignore the times she is startled by something. I've made sure to get my 80 year old mom on the same page with this as well.
Thank you! I appreciate all of the great advice.
@Swiergotka78 not familiar with "bonding and trust training".
As for her motivators, this has been extremely difficult. I really feel that she's on the lazy side, as she's not really motivated to "work" for a reward. Food is all I have since she doesn't play with toys. She is an extremely picky eater (a whole other struggle I have with her). I've tried so many things. She doesn't like dog treats, or dog food in general. So finding something she REALLY likes is tough. Seemed like chicken hearts and gizzards were going to be the trick, but she is losing interest in that.
What is the consequence after saying no?
There can be multiple consequences:
Social/Spacial (Using emotion/space as a punishment)
Negative punishment (taking something away they want)
Positive punishment (Adding something to punish ie: leash pop)
What's most important is your consistency. Don't say "NO" without following up with a consequence. Also, YOU don't get to decide what is punishment. The dog does. If the dog eats your leash pop like the Terminator eats bullets then your leash pop wasn't forceful enough.
Ugh that's my dog, she doesn't care about leash corrections at all, and i feel like I'm being quite hard on her. Plus she's on a prong 😬 But when i smack her with a newspaper she covers like she's about to die lol. @@vmon215
For the day of silence, how do you handle recalls or things off-leash ? I have ideas but would love some of yours :)
Rule 1 was completely stupid. Dog actually understand as many words as a young child. Depending on breed they can understand words even as well as a 7yr old. I have two Jacks that understand the difference in between "my bed" and "your bed". I have a Belgium that literally understands "get the ball" vs "get the rope" and even "get the large ball" vs "get the small ball" there's a show on Netflix this kid needs to watch about it.
You have hearing issues? Every person on Earth knows that. But you didn't get a point.
They don't speak our language! Repeating it doesn't help at all.