Msimang is like the battered spouse who is constantly cheated on and the abuser crawls back saying he won't beat her again - and the abused spouse believes him. We all know how this ends.
its surprising how out of touch he is - doesn't he know the ANC is the means by which ANC members can access state funds? why would anyone step aside for that when they can feast on government budgets?
The anc is irreparable and they won’t take him seriously. He is part of the rot. For him to come back , I lost all respect for him. There are no factions in the anc. Hopefully they will go the route of Nerhu Indian National Congress and lose power. That is the only way for the anc to reform.
I have no faith in anyone in the anc. No one can tell me they didn’t try to stop corruption. I lost complete faith in the anc too. To think in 1993 I wanted to join the anc youth league but left when the party didn’t align with my values. I was not going to damage street lights and any Government building.
Mr Msimang is the kind of leader that the ANC desperately needs, has incredible integrity, very sincere and lots of moral stamina and I'm sure there are other similar individuals within the ANC but unfortunately things have gone so wrong for such a long time that the ANC is longer known for having such leaders of integrity, it has attracted lots of shady characters within its ranks which will make this fight for renewal a very difficult and time/energy consuming process, and the corrupt forces will also put up a strong fight to resist this renewal effort. It is definitely a good and worthy fight but I think it will take several years to achieve and for the ANC to start regaining public trust. For now the ANC will probably be doing all this work while sitting on the opposition benches. In any case, all the best to you Mr. Msimang/Veterans, even if you don't achieve this next year, your work will not be in vain, any person that attempts to do good becomes richer in the soul and mind!
When a man of such integrity is driven to extreme frustration. Still a formidable diplomat, but always a true leader - otherwise so lacking in the ANC NEC and Cabinet.
Corruption pointed out in your letter recently, has been pointed out accurately by millions of educated people decades ago….. where was your letter then?
This old man doing it the right time 🤣 resign and not resign, he knows ANC is going to fall so now he wants to quickly join the long fingers in the money💰bag 😂
why does it matter that this uncle went back to the anc?its obvious that nobody listened to him regarding his alleged ethics.thats if he spoke up at all?what did we lose as a country?nothing.what have we gained as a country?nothing.
I am very glad that the Veterans is taking a firm stand...corrupt officials xan not be leaders, because their integrity are at stake. People will never trust them again.
Being corrupt or stupid does not appear to matter to the South African voter. Take Jacob Zuma: a known crook, who did not attend high school - democratically elected twice!
@@mundusuys8739 To be fair, Zuma was not democratically elected because the nation does not vote directly for the President. The ANC was elected. Zuma was _selected._ The only reason such a crook was put into the top seat is completely the ANC's fault.
Doc of integrity much respect for u. Only thing is different percentage of our government tht want to fight corruption. Corruption start from head to tail as per your meeting you just include the body of the snake don't forget about the head. Lots of people in parliament are veterans????.
If the ANC wishes to be taken seriously then they must act now. Why wait for the elections and why focus on the candidate list? Lastly, Ramaphosa should also be removed from the leadership position on the issue of Phala Phala, we shall never forget what really happened there.
Remove all with criminal records from the list, so far so good. So what abt the things not being said? Like what abt the step aside rule applicable on ie just the Zondo recommendarions? What will be left of the party if the anc constitution + its policies get applied without fear or favour?
Of course it’s too late in the day….. zumas 9 lost years and Ramaphosas 8 lost years…… that’s 17 years for those who only need 30% pass in math. Much too late to do what you’re mandated to do.
Now a days people have more knowledge about politics. It is very difficult to spread misinformation because the people know the difference between the truth and lies. Mavuso Msimang can not compare himself to President Zuma. The response of the people of South Africa to his MK party has left the ANC realising the prospect of losing the elections
Impact comes first before Image. This is a true example of leadership - most people would rather be obstinate for the sake of fear of what people will say at the expense of what they want to achieve - He choose the later
An old English adage says, only a fool cannot change his mind. I think it befits well in a normal situation, but this one leaves much to be desired. Especially if i take to cognizance two issues he had highlighted and can't divulge publicly everything they discussed with the ANC SG, 1, Mbalula apologized, we get it from him not from Mbalula, 2 that he can't expose those that implicated in corruption publicly. When you think quite diligently his reason for resignation, u'll condlude by saying, actually he was complaining to be included. Now he is happy for they've strike a deal. MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
The using Msimang to come up with all the lies 😂they think he's lies is going to get people to change their minds and vote ANC (ANTI NATAL CLINIC) 😂😂😂😂
When this one saw the ANC award the modupe and kusile power station tenders to their own chancellor house...where was he? Why did he not start making a noise about that? Too little too late, pls just go back and continue your snooze
I think the point is that just like Zuma is not keen to see his day in court, the other ANC people implicated in corrupt activity are also not keen to see their day in court, defending their actions. There is a chance that there house of cards will just collapse if accountability is allowed to take it's course. Just too many beneficiaries of the corrupt activities. It's inevitable that the house of cards will ultimately come down
only if DA can wrestle key portfolios from them - Finance, Public Works, State Owned Entities, Police, Local Government. it can then set up a parallel state that functions
Msimang is like the battered spouse who is constantly cheated on and the abuser crawls back saying he won't beat her again - and the abused spouse believes him. We all know how this ends.
No mention of prosecuting the ANC members implicated in the Zondo commission.
There would be no members left if they did that!!!
Ngekhe ibekhona iProsecuting kuleZoMembers ngoba ukhona uMuntu okufanele ibenguyena ofanele iProsecuting Zuma kuphela
If he failed to fight corruption from the inside then before he resigned,what confidence he has now that things will change?
Fikile took him for a ride, nothing will ever happened as promised to this old asshole 😂😂😂
He forgot that the stokvel was coming to him. He was reminded.
That little credibility left gone, birds of a feather flock together.
I 'm very disappointed for mr Msimango to go back to the ANC i lost his respect
its surprising how out of touch he is - doesn't he know the ANC is the means by which ANC members can access state funds? why would anyone step aside for that when they can feast on government budgets?
True
How much was he paid to come back??
He was looking for some christmas money. The less this man speaks the better.
Exactly, you can sense it in his smile and attitude....
Good question but unfortunately it's our tax money 💰💰💰💰 being misused 😂
ANC is rotten and must go asap.
We are suffering under their incompetence.
The anc is irreparable and they won’t take him seriously. He is part of the rot. For him to come back , I lost all respect for him. There are no factions in the anc. Hopefully they will go the route of Nerhu Indian National Congress and lose power. That is the only way for the anc to reform.
It's true that they face the same fate as the congress movement in India. For the same reasons
These old dudes are just wasting our time now. They are trying to be relevant. Whether it is this man, Zuma, Niehaas or whoever. Waste.
My opinion anc bought him back with taxpayers money
I have no faith in anyone in the anc. No one can tell me they didn’t try to stop corruption. I lost complete faith in the anc too. To think in 1993 I wanted to join the anc youth league but left when the party didn’t align with my values. I was not going to damage street lights and any
Government building.
Mr Msimang is the kind of leader that the ANC desperately needs, has incredible integrity, very sincere and lots of moral stamina and I'm sure there are other similar individuals within the ANC but unfortunately things have gone so wrong for such a long time that the ANC is longer known for having such leaders of integrity, it has attracted lots of shady characters within its ranks which will make this fight for renewal a very difficult and time/energy consuming process, and the corrupt forces will also put up a strong fight to resist this renewal effort.
It is definitely a good and worthy fight but I think it will take several years to achieve and for the ANC to start regaining public trust. For now the ANC will probably be doing all this work while sitting on the opposition benches. In any case, all the best to you Mr. Msimang/Veterans, even if you don't achieve this next year, your work will not be in vain, any person that attempts to do good becomes richer in the soul and mind!
👌👌👌! Ordinary people who are unknown that they exist like yourself know and understand this mess we in! Thanks for this thoughtful comment 🖖
What a word salad of hogwash
When a man of such integrity is driven to extreme frustration. Still a formidable diplomat, but always a true leader - otherwise so lacking in the ANC NEC and Cabinet.
F the ANC
Corruption pointed out in your letter recently, has been pointed out accurately by millions of educated people decades ago….. where was your letter then?
This old man doing it the right time 🤣 resign and not resign, he knows ANC is going to fall so now he wants to quickly join the long fingers in the money💰bag 😂
why does it matter that this uncle went back to the anc?its obvious that nobody listened to him regarding his alleged ethics.thats if he spoke up at all?what did we lose as a country?nothing.what have we gained as a country?nothing.
I am very glad that the Veterans is taking a firm stand...corrupt officials xan not be leaders, because their integrity are at stake. People will never trust them again.
Being corrupt or stupid does not appear to matter to the South African voter. Take Jacob Zuma: a known crook, who did not attend high school - democratically elected twice!
@@mundusuys8739 To be fair, Zuma was not democratically elected because the nation does not vote directly for the President. The ANC was elected. Zuma was _selected._ The only reason such a crook was put into the top seat is completely the ANC's fault.
@@oodlesofnoodles4660 Did the people know he was ANC president in 2009 when they voted for it? I think they did.
There's no way that anyone corrupt will be removed 😂😂😂
Mavuso's KeyNote from BNC#6 was inspirational - watch out for it over the next few days
What implications for the country...???
With your corrupt ANC out of govt...we can built this country...
Voertsek ANC....just voertsek...
Even when we have bad leadership, God is in charge. South Africans should not loose hope. Just like apartheid, this is also going to pass 🙏✝️🛐❤
Its ANC first , maybe Country then its suffering Citizens
Doc of integrity much respect for u. Only thing is different percentage of our government tht want to fight corruption. Corruption start from head to tail as per your meeting you just include the body of the snake don't forget about the head. Lots of people in parliament are veterans????.
Can we please have a livestream this time for Biz News conference
If the ANC wishes to be taken seriously then they must act now. Why wait for the elections and why focus on the candidate list? Lastly, Ramaphosa should also be removed from the leadership position on the issue of Phala Phala, we shall never forget what really happened there.
Remove all with criminal records from the list, so far so good. So what abt the things not being said? Like what abt the step aside rule applicable on ie just the Zondo recommendarions? What will be left of the party if the anc constitution + its policies get applied without fear or favour?
Why now suddenly? Nonsense story.
Maybe Fikle is right this time, why else will he go back...cant walk away from the gravy train.
There’s some good people in the ANC..
Peak delusion… the ANC is beyond redemption unfortunately
Of course it’s too late in the day….. zumas 9 lost years and Ramaphosas 8 lost years…… that’s 17 years for those who only need 30% pass in math. Much too late to do what you’re mandated to do.
Confused
Fighting corruption my arse man this man as a cadre by definition is corrupt
Now a days people have more knowledge about politics. It is very difficult to spread misinformation because the people know the difference between the truth and lies. Mavuso Msimang can not compare himself to President Zuma. The response of the people of South Africa to his MK party has left the ANC realising the prospect of losing the elections
Yes people have been misled for so long. People can see that ther is something wrong with people who keep referring to Zondo commission
Impact comes first before Image. This is a true example of leadership - most people would rather be obstinate for the sake of fear of what people will say at the expense of what they want to achieve - He choose the later
Wellcome to the graving train!!!!
I like him,i am an ANC member
That's like being proud of being a Catholic in the light of their inability to stop child abuse
Just another comrade…
Lensambatheka yekhehla iyabhibhidla lack backbone , likhotha izinqe zika Mbalula no Ramagosha.
Just need results. No more no leas
How much Rs did he get to change opinion!??
He though he had integrity, but turns out there were none.
An old English adage says, only a fool cannot change his mind. I think it befits well in a normal situation, but this one leaves much to be desired. Especially if i take to cognizance two issues he had highlighted and can't divulge publicly everything they discussed with the ANC SG, 1, Mbalula apologized, we get it from him not from Mbalula, 2 that he can't expose those that implicated in corruption publicly. When you think quite diligently his reason for resignation, u'll condlude by saying, actually he was complaining to be included. Now he is happy for they've strike a deal. MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
So true I agree with you 💯
What he says here, about the bad people in the ANC leaving the party if it loses power, I was saying around 1995/99
The using Msimang to come up with all the lies 😂they think he's lies is going to get people to change their minds and vote ANC (ANTI NATAL CLINIC) 😂😂😂😂
The ANC continuing the fight against corruption. Hahahaha you think we are all stupid? Unbelievable
Does those implicated in corruption include Phalaphala
Mbalula…… the puppet. Fully complicit in the corruption all along.
When this one saw the ANC award the modupe and kusile power station tenders to their own chancellor house...where was he? Why did he not start making a noise about that? Too little too late, pls just go back and continue your snooze
I think the point is that just like Zuma is not keen to see his day in court, the other ANC people implicated in corrupt activity are also not keen to see their day in court, defending their actions. There is a chance that there house of cards will just collapse if accountability is allowed to take it's course. Just too many beneficiaries of the corrupt activities. It's inevitable that the house of cards will ultimately come down
Oh yes ?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This old man 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Attention seeker
Did you leave the ANC because Zuma runs it Flip-flops?
Baba Msimango bona bazibona bengabantu abalungile kodwa baCaptured Uyeza u2024 sizobona ukuthi enkulumo zabo zizowulingisa na uANC kulezinkinga abhekene nazo
why would you even bother with msimang...i dont even listen to anything he says
Let’s make that Billions.
😅😅😅. Hogwash. Veterans this and that, what fight? These guys will be removed by hearse.😅😅
Lose all that money you will
Gets my middle finger and thumbs up for referendum party !!
All preparation for the ANC-DA coalition in 2024.
only if DA can wrestle key portfolios from them - Finance, Public Works, State Owned Entities, Police, Local Government.
it can then set up a parallel state that functions
This msimang madala gets so much airtime.we watch chanel 403-405 and its the same guy resigning and coming back the following day (bored).
Turncoat!
Just another comrade…,,
Really new dawnbas arrived.all corrupted must go from Cyril 5:46 Zuma must go also corrupt 9wastedxyrs
Was Msimang bribed to crawl back and vra askiestog , what next?
Kakkop
Msimang is really the pot calling the cattle black 😂 shame he sounds very tired like Cyril 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢