As a white 40somthing growing up in both times in our history. We need more people like you to bring this country back to what it can be. I truly believe this country has the potential to be one of the best in the world. We just need a leaders that can take us there.
All our politicians love racists. It's how you divide and conquer. A united nation would not back any of them. It's sad but true. i think SA left to the people would of been way better off. @@biko8229
I respect this man, if the ANC had people of integrity such as yourself, this country would have been in a far better position today compared to the shambles it has become.
What do you mean Folk, he does not have a right to echo out his frustration about the corruption taking place under his nose as a troops who selflessly fought for this country, wow so reach coming from you.
My heart is bleeding for this human being.....I can feel his emotions and crying for what is happening with our country.......be assured sir........we ALL are crying out of helpnessless.
There is a much better way! Having recently watched the Arte tv Documentary about Mayor Chris Pappas ( fluent in isiZulu) of uMngeni Municipality on TH-cam as well as Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen ( also on TH-cam - read the comments), the DA is by far the best, most compassionate and most experienced choice to take SA forward in 2024!!
He has no integrity, he is just complaining because he is not getting tenders. why is he mentioning Zuma, and he is not in party positions or presidency, why didnt he resign when Zuma was BOSS,
@@jameskillu9171nah this is not about tenders, I think he has predicted how the ship will sink, and those who will not survive.. I believe he knows that the truth will come out and that the country is no longer with us🚶💔
Dear Mr. Msimang, I have the utmost respect for you taking this step. I cannot even phantom the pain you are going through, putting your heart and soul into an organization, a fight for equal opportunities for more decades I am old, and then ultimately have to leave this behind, because the organization is becomming the very thing you wanted abolished. As a white South African, with some mixed ancestry centuries ago, I applaud you. As a public servant in the Health sector I applaud you. I work in a health institution with so much potential to assist the citizens of our country, but our hands are tide due to staff shortages and infrastructure caving in around us. We as a nation have more potential than anyone give us credit for and we will rise from the ashes, but only if corruption is rooted out. Thank you for taking a stand for the South Africa you fought for. Thank you for standing up for her people. We need more people with your integrity. We need people with your integrity to become our government. All the best with your future endeavors.
I applaud you as one of the greatest South Africa in the league of Tata Mandela. I have become convinced that there was not a single principlrd person left in the ANC, but you have proved me wrong. I salute you great South African.
The courage of Dr. Msimang is admirable. I salute you Sir. We need more people of influence like this who is not afraid to speak the truth and admit to the ANCs catastrophic failures.
This man is spineless. He let us down badly. He has withdrawn his letter and just fooled us.A man of no integrity and pulled the wool over eyes. His actions are just as corrupt as his comrades 😅😅
Thank you for your integrity and honesty Dr.Msimang the ANC is crumbling completely under Ramaphosa😢😢😢😢... Hope more honest leaders leave that cult🤌🏼🤦🏽
Sure integrity, he sat by and allowed things to get this bad, idve thought someone with 60 years behind him would have some say in the party. It only ended in the sacrifice of the nation and many lives for him to sit there and say something.
This guy is useless, we do not need him, for him to defend Ramaphosa for all these years and just come out now. This man is no visionary, no critucal thinking skills. That ANC has been a problem for years, destroyed our infrastructure, failed to govern, people been killed daily by criminals, corruption including during Covid. And he comes out now!
I agree with you @Peterhobbs, if there was a culture of integrity and the-people-first within the ANC, the outlook for South Africa would've been very different. Looting, greed, selfishness, political murders is just some of the shocking things we've been witnessing as SA'ns for years now. Sikhathele manje 😡
An individual who engages in abusive behavior typically refrains from acknowledging that they are an abuser. It's unrealistic to anticipate self-admission of wrongdoing from those who are blind to the impact of their actions.
THank you Dr Msimang we need more leaders of your integrity people may say negative things about you and most of these people are clueless when it comes to politics you certainly remind me of Baba President Thabo Mbeki i took my hat of you siyabonga Baba i am not afflicted to any political party but i respect you for telling the truth
Cde Msimang you have taken the right decision. ANC will learn from its mistakes. The problem started when Cde Mbeki was removed from his office and they were not aware that they have dug their own grave. Well done v
WELL DONE DR MAVUSO... It took courage to admit you a have lost confidence in the ANC and that you have resigned from the party. TRANSPARENCY+SINCERITY = TRUTH AND TRUTH = TRUST. SINCERITY is the SEED, TRUTH is the TREE AND LOVE IS THE FRUIT.
Thank you for coming out, to the public, about what the entire country has been crying 😭😭💔💔😭😭 about, the country needs people of your caliber, to take this country forward ⏩ to the right direction ⬆️ for the upcoming generation !!!. No
I really admire this old man integrity, what fascinates me the most is that Mr Msimang is my age and a typical Ndebele like me, i hope many of elderly citizens are still going to come out. ANC is no longer prepared to serve the people of SAFRICA except to steal and loot to the core, and leave this country of glory in serious shameful shamble state.
except that Zuma is an innocent, selfless person who went to prison to free his people. while Ramaphosa is a sel out who sold ANC patriots to apartheid,
If that's what you think they'd do, then you've grossly misunderstood who politicians are, never has any party in any democracy done that, I'm happy to be corrected btw
@@zwide4 True, although partly i think for the longest time society has allowed politicians to think they are in charge when they are but civil servants who have to do what we say. And every time society disagrees you see them send out police to attack the very people they swore to serve. Nobody keeps governments in their place.
Great leaders are sidelined in the ANC. Those with stolen money secure top positions at conferences and then automatically secure top government positions to loot more money. They've lost touch with reality and the masses on the ground.
He could have chosen to feign concern but remain a member of this rotten organisation until his death, but he chose to take the difficult decision and die with his integrity intact. I wish people like Mbeki could tear a leaf off this man's book.
Sir if you come up with a Political Party my entire Family and the majority of my friends will join you! We know you were a die hard ANC Cadre who really really believed in the original Principles of the ANC.One of them being us living in a non Racial Country. You also strongly beleive in the best person for the job rather the now BEEE process which is now bringing our beautiful Country to its knees.Pray and hope that we have more ANC Politicians and people that will stand by you Sir!
He shouldn't have joined new dawn group in the first place. It was created on the lies against Zuma. It's impossible to keep lying for ever, they've destroyed the ANC
People even pay councilors for proof of residence to go to look for work or other reasons, I have paid from my pocket to remove the rubble that was in front of my house Left there by a tender that was brought by the councillor of the area.
I'm not impressed the man is not brutal enough in fact he's not brutal at all. He doesn't speak openly and directly to the sickness called ANC. He doesn't paint a clear as daylight picture of ANCs failure. The truth is there is no more ANC it died even before it came into power. A liberation movement that's only about service delivery is bound to fail.
Service Delivery you say? His mindset is still stuck in that in socialist dogma. First you need economic resources in order to deliver anything. "Its the Economy Stupid" James Carville. Bring about conditions friendly to DFI. Corruption is non of them.
We lose people like this because the criminal element is now so deep rooted in the Anc. Also like Moletsi Mbeki said in the early part of the year, when a party senses the loss of power they stop governing and are busy filling there pockets. This is exactly what has happened. In fact where is the President with this rand manipulation... what an opportunity he is missing to take action and get the rand back to acceptable levels. So they have stopped working South Africa... hang in there we will eventuality come right.
My heart is sad, he has been an anchor for me,as a member,loved his views,he inspired me to speak up from inside,now that he's gone..I have no light bearer from within my last hope is Frank Chikane that's if that Intergrity committee gets more teeth..or power..
Why highlight the obvious SO late…… ? People have seen this coming for MANY years….. SUDDENLY, this man is talking about what the citizens have been complaining about for decades…….. now he is the hero for saying the obvious!!!
Great respect to Mavuso for calling a spade! Putting individuals in positions of influence based on incompetence and protection of corrupt people has been destroying the country.
He is one of the Party’s Stalwarts. Those who know him are hurting. We salute you Cadre. This is no longer the ANC , we know. If I were Mbalula I would not have answered the way he did. He showed lack of leadership. Comrade Ramaphosa must go and talk to Baba Msimang and apologise for this direction the new leadership is taking. I am really touched. ANC can still do better. Come on Comrades, Veterans are hurt. I know you can change for us. Vivaaaa maComrade I trust you.
ANC politics is not for black African masses,Codesa and Apartheid regime had changed the ANC political stance/issues.EFF is the new political answer to the current political situationship.👊🏿✊🏿💪🏿🙏🏿
Right ! Lindiwe Sisulu and others, (whose families understood what needed to be done in terms of restoring the dignity of our people...getting top class education in place.... and real economic empowerment.) when are you going to take a stand?
The ANC has become complicit in corruption. Our beautiful country deserves better 🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️ Much like Apartheid ended, its time for government mismanagement to end in 2024, and we can’t have the ANC in power, they won’t change. They have broken too many promises.
I can see man of honor, remember branches are producing criminals that kill all their way up . KZN and Mpumalanga Provincial structure is full of masterminding killings of many councilors and they r still in the ANC.
I really didn't see anything courageous in this interview, maybe I missed it. This guy is saying nothing really. Maybe if he mentioned how the private sector collaborated with the ANC to make sure the white monopoly capital gets more of what they already had during apartheid at the expense of the majority. He makes no mention of Phala Phala in his diplomatic articulation of his reasons for departure. Maybe to protect his pension? We'll never know... He also doesn't tell us how the white corruption in the private sector is protected by the ruling party for political funding. The ANC corruption is not the only corruption that's costing this country, but they must take the for allowing the white private sector corruption to thrive on their watch sadly 😢
I feel exactly like him. ANC is the party of my choice but Ive been watching corruption taking the country down the drain, I am sorry. . On the other hand , I think I’ve been a coward because I decided to let them go on with their stuff, hurt off course. I owe veterans an apology.
So after all these years of corruption Mavuso Msimang decides to leave the ANC after he himself has sufficiently been enriched. And here we are lauding him a hero. South Africans really are scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to lauding people as heroes. Why didn’t he not only criticize but also leave the party 10 or more years ago? Pathetic.
You’re being ridiculous in your analysis: Mavuso was a member of the ANC for over 60 years, he grew up in the party under such leaders asTambo and Mandela. In exile, his colleagues were men like Chris Hani, Mbeki, Slovo etc. He is an MK veteran, having fought in Wankie. The ANC has been home. How easy would it be for you to leave your abusive parents? Wouldn’t you hope they would reform? Wouldn’t you give them second chances…until all options had been exhausted, and as a last resort you break all ties? Well, that’s what happened here. Please do not trivialise what has been a difficult decision for Mavuso. His integrity and courage are to be emulated and commended. This is the stuff that make people great
The Prezzie's nonchalant and relaxed response to the resignation of Dr Msimang beggars belief. He appears to be in a state of reduced mental and physical responsiveness.
Guys ... As a sensible human being ... this is the New Dawn of CR when he said Tuma Mina ... just to do what he can do BEST ... as it is happening now where he is in total control of the party and all its members ... In football they said Once a Parate you remain a PARATE ...Maybe the CR17 and dollars has confussed all members ... not knowing that CR23 is following ... RISE-UP SA ...
This guy should have been president....However the new ANC doesn't value honestly, humility and dignity. Mabulula would rather insult him at one of his unhinged press conferences.... It time the people of SA wake up and punish the ANC's objective colossal failures at the polls next year!!!!
His hopes are back on high cos he has gone back. ANC suddenly is no longer corrupt as was mentioned by him. He is no longer disappointed by ANC. What a quick u-turn
Institutional memory is very key in every organisation.Politics is not about populism only but what is fundamental in organizations such as the ANC is ideological understanding and such veterans are a source of that.
@@siyabongamzimela7931 the caliber of leaders in the ANC doesn't seem to care about that institutional memory Siya. Do you honestly think that they current SG ,for example, cares about historic values of the ANC. If the current crop of leaders doesn't care, why would a potential voter care? ANC is dying a slow and natural death. It is literally finished.
I remember telling Zuma to step down 😂😂😂 if am not mistaking he said the same to president CYRIL RAMAPHOSA.....this is really not gud on ANC 😢 most especially if he's going to join other parties
I personally don't care abt these ANC leaders whether they resign or stay within the movement's ranks,the fact is Mazantsi is in a dire state since they took over.
As a white 40somthing growing up in both times in our history. We need more people like you to bring this country back to what it can be. I truly believe this country has the potential to be one of the best in the world. We just need a leaders that can take us there.
Can he replace Zille or Steenhusein in DA
i recon so. A leader with integrity is someone anybody can follow. @@jameskillu9171
@@jameskillu9171 😂🤣🤣No way, they love their racists in the DA
All our politicians love racists. It's how you divide and conquer. A united nation would not back any of them. It's sad but true. i think SA left to the people would of been way better off. @@biko8229
@@jameskillu9171YES !!!
I respect this man, if the ANC had people of integrity such as yourself, this country would have been in a far better position today compared to the shambles it has become.
Zyma is a man of integrity, and he did his best as president, South africa was doing well under Zuma,,
He benefited from ANC like many so he sees no reason whatsoever.Attention seekers
What do you mean Folk, he does not have a right to echo out his frustration about the corruption taking place under his nose as a troops who selflessly fought for this country, wow so reach coming from you.
Zuma was for south africa. That's why the whites labelled him 'Darkie President'
Let me reciprocate what I said few day ago.He is attention seeker.He is ANC member again😂
Salute to you! Your integrity is remarkable and refreshing.
My heart is bleeding for this human being.....I can feel his emotions and crying for what is happening with our country.......be assured sir........we ALL are crying out of helpnessless.
There is a much better way!
Having recently watched the Arte tv Documentary about Mayor Chris Pappas ( fluent in isiZulu) of uMngeni Municipality on TH-cam as well as Mac G's Podcast with John Steenhuisen ( also on TH-cam - read the comments), the DA is by far the best, most compassionate and most experienced choice to take SA forward in 2024!!
South Africa is in need of leaders with integrity like this one 👏
He has no integrity, he is just complaining because he is not getting tenders. why is he mentioning Zuma, and he is not in party positions or presidency, why didnt he resign when Zuma was BOSS,
@@jameskillu9171nah this is not about tenders, I think he has predicted how the ship will sink, and those who will not survive.. I believe he knows that the truth will come out and that the country is no longer with us🚶💔
@@jameskillu9171 Your responses are very toxic, destructive, showing clearly that you are a foreigner, and don't qualify to be part of this debate.
The first ANC man to show sound mindedness. Kudos to Mavuso telling the country that ANC has failed.
What a dignified man,first ANC member to tell the truth. It wasn't an easy decision for him,but ppl with integrity protects their dignity. 🖐🖐
he was given mavuso the came back
Dear Mr. Msimang,
I have the utmost respect for you taking this step.
I cannot even phantom the pain you are going through, putting your heart and soul into an organization, a fight for equal opportunities for more decades I am old, and then ultimately have to leave this behind, because the organization is becomming the very thing you wanted abolished.
As a white South African, with some mixed ancestry centuries ago, I applaud you.
As a public servant in the Health sector I applaud you. I work in a health institution with so much potential to assist the citizens of our country, but our hands are tide due to staff shortages and infrastructure caving in around us.
We as a nation have more potential than anyone give us credit for and we will rise from the ashes, but only if corruption is rooted out.
Thank you for taking a stand for the South Africa you fought for. Thank you for standing up for her people.
We need more people with your integrity.
We need people with your integrity to become our government.
All the best with your future endeavors.
I applaud you as one of the greatest South Africa in the league of Tata Mandela. I have become convinced that there was not a single principlrd person left in the ANC, but you have proved me wrong. I salute you great South African.
Some of us are young,and still here and we have integrity, selflessness, and serve people.
The courage of Dr. Msimang is admirable. I salute you Sir. We need more people of influence like this who is not afraid to speak the truth and admit to the ANCs catastrophic failures.
This man is spineless. He let us down badly. He has withdrawn his letter and just fooled us.A man of no integrity and pulled the wool over eyes. His actions are just as corrupt as his comrades
😅😅
Thank you for your integrity and honesty Dr.Msimang the ANC is crumbling completely under Ramaphosa😢😢😢😢... Hope more honest leaders leave that cult🤌🏼🤦🏽
Sure integrity, he sat by and allowed things to get this bad, idve thought someone with 60 years behind him would have some say in the party. It only ended in the sacrifice of the nation and many lives for him to sit there and say something.
We need more individuals like this guy who could be part of the ANC’s top 6. Maybe it would have been a different scenario.
This guy is useless, we do not need him, for him to defend Ramaphosa for all these years and just come out now. This man is no visionary, no critucal thinking skills. That ANC has been a problem for years, destroyed our infrastructure, failed to govern, people been killed daily by criminals, corruption including during Covid. And he comes out now!
We need people in leadership.positions all over to be like this agree. Corruption has gone down too deep. 😢
Peter hobbs you are just blowing a hot air.
I agree with you @Peterhobbs, if there was a culture of integrity and the-people-first within the ANC, the outlook for South Africa would've been very different. Looting, greed, selfishness, political murders is just some of the shocking things we've been witnessing as SA'ns for years now. Sikhathele manje 😡
For the first time, an honest sad story. ANC until now has failed to admit their failure.
An individual who engages in abusive behavior typically refrains from acknowledging that they are an abuser. It's unrealistic to anticipate self-admission of wrongdoing from those who are blind to the impact of their actions.
@@Walkingsun517 Powerful!
THank you Dr Msimang we need more leaders of your integrity people may say negative things about you and most of these people are clueless when it comes to politics you certainly remind me of Baba President Thabo Mbeki i took my hat of you siyabonga Baba i am not afflicted to any political party but i respect you for telling the truth
Cde Msimang you have taken the right decision. ANC will learn from its mistakes. The problem started when Cde Mbeki was removed from his office and they were not aware that they have dug their own grave. Well done v
WELL DONE DR MAVUSO... It took courage to admit you a have lost confidence in the ANC and that you have resigned from the party. TRANSPARENCY+SINCERITY = TRUTH AND TRUTH = TRUST. SINCERITY is the SEED, TRUTH is the TREE AND LOVE IS THE FRUIT.
Thank you for coming out, to the public, about what the entire country has been crying 😭😭💔💔😭😭 about, the country needs people of your caliber, to take this country forward ⏩ to the right direction ⬆️ for the upcoming generation !!!. No
Bongiwe is not trying to be a populist. Great interview.
Yes.
Bongiwe is dy her work in the right work without pushing a certain agenda like some oresenterst.of SABC
This is a truthful person
The quality of councilors at Branch level,very arrogant, obvious that they are ignorant of what the ANC stand for.
You dont have democracy, you have party dictatorship, the councillot represent party,, not people
CR response to his resignation shows how far removed he is from reality. He is so deceptive. Regrettable that he is our president.
I couldn't have put it better. Wow..
Thank you.
And to think, we as a people thought that CR would have our backs. Boy, were we wrong.
The ANC removed Mbeki when he had not stolen anything. SInce then, it has been a downslope for them.
I really admire this old man integrity, what fascinates me the most is that Mr Msimang is my age and a typical Ndebele like me, i hope many of elderly citizens are still going to come out. ANC is no longer prepared to serve the people of SAFRICA except to steal and loot to the core, and leave this country of glory in serious shameful shamble state.
It has nothing to do with tribe or age and everything to do with integrity and honesty
Cyril is everything people accused Zuma of.
But both are equally dangerous and useless, we can also include Julius as the Three Musketeers
except that Zuma is an innocent, selfless person who went to prison to free his people. while Ramaphosa is a sel out who sold ANC patriots to apartheid,
Cyril is worse than
Zuma was everything he was accused of, and more.
@@jameskillu9171I hope you’re being sarcastic lol, nothing could be further from the truth
Some situations are beyond redemption. The ship is sinking and it's high time people realize that.
You created a monster with tenders and not dealing with corruption in 1996. Corruption is now running the ANC.
Tenders were not created by the ANC, what's with the ignorance and neither was corruption, they just multiplied it a million times
I respect this veteran. Well done sir
The kind of leaders our country needs. Protect him
Hello Uncle Msimango! Alas Mom observed this a long while ago🤔-the demise of ANC ! Great move , better late than never!
You have a very brave Uncle there. Give him a big hug from all of South Africa.
We can't wait for new leaders. South Africans must hold the corrupt leaders accountable.
For a start, put the country before the party
If that's what you think they'd do, then you've grossly misunderstood who politicians are, never has any party in any democracy done that, I'm happy to be corrected btw
@@zwide4 True, although partly i think for the longest time society has allowed politicians to think they are in charge when they are but civil servants who have to do what we say. And every time society disagrees you see them send out police to attack the very people they swore to serve. Nobody keeps governments in their place.
How does a municipality person drive a maybach👏👏👏👏👏👏👏vote action sa 💚 💚💚
I know a mayor of a very small, poor municipality who always has a VIP entourage of about 6 Blue Light BMWs.
@@muzih.ngwenya9768 anc eff
Great leaders are sidelined in the ANC. Those with stolen money secure top positions at conferences and then automatically secure top government positions to loot more money. They've lost touch with reality and the masses on the ground.
He tried. But the ANC is irredeemable.
where did he try,
@@jameskillu9171he stayed with the looting dogs and tried his best, but realized your msholozi and the anc can't be redeemed
@@jameskillu9171 luthuli house
The people who fought for this country knows that the ANC is beyond saving yet some South Africans still vote for it.
He could have chosen to feign concern but remain a member of this rotten organisation until his death, but he chose to take the difficult decision and die with his integrity intact. I wish people like Mbeki could tear a leaf off this man's book.
Yeah like Trevor Manuel he is no longer an ANC member.
This very bad, there's something wrong with ths prty, we must look more closely 🥺😧🧐
Sir if you come up with a Political Party my entire Family and the majority of my friends will join you! We know you were a die hard ANC Cadre who really really believed in the original Principles of the ANC.One of them being us living in a non Racial Country. You also strongly beleive in the best person for the job rather the now BEEE process which is now bringing our beautiful Country to its knees.Pray and hope that we have more ANC Politicians and people that will stand by you Sir!
Dr Mavuso Msimang , i salute you sir
I respect mavuso for speaking out
He shouldn't have joined new dawn group in the first place. It was created on the lies against Zuma. It's impossible to keep lying for ever, they've destroyed the ANC
Ramaphosa is showing them flames😂😂😂 The new dawn is a new doom indeed.
A man thats articulated at last,,, a destinguised sauve man of integrity ,,where were you pappa...yes u late
But you can start a motion.
People even pay councilors for proof of residence to go to look for work or other reasons, I have paid from my pocket to remove the rubble that was in front of my house Left there by a tender that was brought by the councillor of the area.
A waves and waves of men and women of integrity and character will be jumping the Titanic.
A breath of fresh air!!!!
Those who could not see through spineless Cyril from the start leave much to be desired.
I love how she conducted the interview.
I'm not impressed the man is not brutal enough in fact he's not brutal at all. He doesn't speak openly and directly to the sickness called ANC. He doesn't paint a clear as daylight picture of ANCs failure. The truth is there is no more ANC it died even before it came into power. A liberation movement that's only about service delivery is bound to fail.
Service Delivery you say? His mindset is still stuck in that in socialist dogma. First you need economic resources in order to deliver anything. "Its the Economy Stupid" James Carville. Bring about conditions friendly to DFI. Corruption is non of them.
We lose people like this because the criminal element is now so deep rooted in the Anc. Also like Moletsi Mbeki said in the early part of the year, when a party senses the loss of power they stop governing and are busy filling there pockets. This is exactly what has happened. In fact where is the President with this rand manipulation... what an opportunity he is missing to take action and get the rand back to acceptable levels. So they have stopped working South Africa... hang in there we will eventuality come right.
My heart is sad, he has been an anchor for me,as a member,loved his views,he inspired me to speak up from inside,now that he's gone..I have no light bearer from within my last hope is Frank Chikane that's if that Intergrity committee gets more teeth..or power..
Why highlight the obvious SO late…… ? People have seen this coming for MANY years….. SUDDENLY, this man is talking about what the citizens have been complaining about for decades…….. now he is the hero for saying the obvious!!!
The ANC needs to be removed at all costs!!!
Thanks big brother zanu idoti
Great respect to Mavuso for calling a spade! Putting individuals in positions of influence based on incompetence and protection of corrupt people has been destroying the country.
He is one of the Party’s Stalwarts. Those who know him are hurting. We salute you Cadre. This is no longer the ANC , we know. If I were Mbalula I would not have answered the way he did. He showed lack of leadership. Comrade Ramaphosa must go and talk to Baba Msimang and apologise for this direction the new leadership is taking. I am really touched. ANC can still do better. Come on Comrades, Veterans are hurt. I know you can change for us. Vivaaaa maComrade I trust you.
This is the beginning of the end of the ANC and the EFF is next.
ANC politics is not for black African masses,Codesa and Apartheid regime had changed the ANC political stance/issues.EFF is the new political answer to the current political situationship.👊🏿✊🏿💪🏿🙏🏿
now that the money is finished
Exactly what I am thinking.
Stage 4 keeps flashing throughout this interview ⚠️⚠️🔌
The trough is empty. The WHOLE Anc has eaten all. Now everyoe runing away. That's what it looks like to me.
The point about the inadequacy of pit latrines is valid. As there are many factors perennially at play, probably a coordinated NPO solution is needed.
Maybe if he was the president of the ANC, it would have been in better position than it finds itself now. He shows some integrity.
Right ! Lindiwe Sisulu and others, (whose families understood what needed to be done in terms of restoring the dignity of our people...getting top class education in place.... and real economic empowerment.) when are you going to take a stand?
All wise men and women of South Africa aged 50-and above must resign from being members/voters of ANC and join the PACT that was brought up by DA
All Hail to Dr Mavuso Msimang
The ANC has become complicit in corruption. Our beautiful country deserves better 🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️🇿🇦♥️ Much like Apartheid ended, its time for government mismanagement to end in 2024, and we can’t have the ANC in power, they won’t change. They have broken too many promises.
I can see man of honor, remember branches are producing criminals that kill all their way up . KZN and Mpumalanga Provincial structure is full of masterminding killings of many councilors and they r still in the ANC.
I really didn't see anything courageous in this interview, maybe I missed it. This guy is saying nothing really.
Maybe if he mentioned how the private sector collaborated with the ANC to make sure the white monopoly capital gets more of what they already had during apartheid at the expense of the majority. He makes no mention of Phala Phala in his diplomatic articulation of his reasons for departure. Maybe to protect his pension? We'll never know...
He also doesn't tell us how the white corruption in the private sector is protected by the ruling party for political funding. The ANC corruption is not the only corruption that's costing this country, but they must take the for allowing the white private sector corruption to thrive on their watch sadly 😢
Exactly he just mumbled for sixteen minutes
I feel exactly like him. ANC is the party of my choice but Ive been watching corruption taking the country down the drain, I am sorry. . On the other hand , I think I’ve been a coward because I decided to let them go on with their stuff, hurt off course. I owe veterans an apology.
Responsibility and the buck - stops at the "top"
He waited until the polls indicated that the ANC is going nowhere. Please, now he wakes up, that is pathetic
The fraud and corruption have been going on for years.
I hope this man does not become a target .
He's going to join eff
The mist handsome and healthy octogenerian. 🔥👌
Dr M , you done your job,go on and relax
So after all these years of corruption Mavuso Msimang decides to leave the ANC after he himself has sufficiently been enriched. And here we are lauding him a hero. South Africans really are scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to lauding people as heroes. Why didn’t he not only criticize but also leave the party 10 or more years ago? Pathetic.
You’re being ridiculous in your analysis: Mavuso was a member of the ANC for over 60 years, he grew up in the party under such leaders asTambo and Mandela. In exile, his colleagues were men like Chris Hani, Mbeki, Slovo etc. He is an MK veteran, having fought in Wankie. The ANC has been home. How easy would it be for you to leave your abusive parents? Wouldn’t you hope they would reform? Wouldn’t you give them second chances…until all options had been exhausted, and as a last resort you break all ties? Well, that’s what happened here. Please do not trivialise what has been a difficult decision for Mavuso. His integrity and courage are to be emulated and commended. This is the stuff that make people great
The Prezzie's nonchalant and relaxed response to the resignation of Dr Msimang beggars belief. He appears to be in a state of reduced mental and physical responsiveness.
..spineless, heartless and no balls
Guys ... As a sensible human being ... this is the New Dawn of CR when he said Tuma Mina ... just to do what he can do BEST ... as it is happening now where he is in total control of the party and all its members ... In football they said Once a Parate you remain a PARATE ...Maybe the CR17 and dollars has confussed all members ... not knowing that CR23 is following ... RISE-UP SA ...
With veterans like these the ANC is doomed.A week later this man rubbished all this as if it all never happened.Integrity is rare commodity.
Waiting for Ramapostponer will drive you nuts. He’s fkn worse than Zuma and has lost touch with reality.
I agree with you. Fully.
What an honorable man
It's painful really
Courageous man! ANC is now leprous, they need a miracle
They even forgot their core existence. Services was never core in to theirs struggle times. Land distribution, economics emancipation and past redress
He nailed it, The DA can take over from here. .
Dream on !!!
Yep, DA will take over
Never
He Must go thanks he come as volunteer he must leave as one thanks
This guy should have been president....However the new ANC doesn't value honestly, humility and dignity. Mabulula would rather insult him at one of his unhinged press conferences.... It time the people of SA wake up and punish the ANC's objective colossal failures at the polls next year!!!!
His hopes are back on high cos he has gone back. ANC suddenly is no longer corrupt as was mentioned by him. He is no longer disappointed by ANC. What a quick u-turn
Honestly,I am not a member of the ANC but he does not add value to them.He is not popular and he is also unknown to members of the ANC on the ground.
They're over-exaggerating his importance to the current ANC. He is indeed unknown on the ground.
Institutional memory is very key in every organisation.Politics is not about populism only but what is fundamental in organizations such as the ANC is ideological understanding and such veterans are a source of that.
@@siyabongamzimela7931 the caliber of leaders in the ANC doesn't seem to care about that institutional memory Siya. Do you honestly think that they current SG ,for example, cares about historic values of the ANC. If the current crop of leaders doesn't care, why would a potential voter care?
ANC is dying a slow and natural death. It is literally finished.
Anc lacks both the willingness and competency to transform SA period.
True
The ANC died many years ago
He should've left 2007 or Gupta scandal
Yes, he was happy with Guptas, he never resigned then, He is a fake man
Yah Anc is a heart breaker
Best decision you have ever made mkhulu.
Applause to the man, but is he only coming to that realisation now?
Why do the ANC still call each other Comarade ? It is so 1960s Soviet error.
"Dr. MAVUSO MSIMANG'S Resignation Is The Final NAIL For The Governing PARTY.PEOPLE WHO Have Really Donated Themselves TO The Liberation STRUGGLE"
Just looking at the faces,,,, its really worring
ANC must fall together with Mbalula and Ramaphosa
Power
I remember telling Zuma to step down 😂😂😂 if am not mistaking he said the same to president CYRIL RAMAPHOSA.....this is really not gud on ANC 😢 most especially if he's going to join other parties
I personally don't care abt these ANC leaders whether they resign or stay within the movement's ranks,the fact is Mazantsi is in a dire state since they took over.