Warrior Runs out of Fuel | Inadequate preflight planning and fuel management (Real ATC)

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    Originally the pilot was going to depart earlier on the day of the accident and had planned to stop enroute to his destination for more fuel. After receiving a weather briefing, he decided to delay his departure until later that evening due to the possibility of thunderstorms being present in the vicinity of his destination airport at his planned time of arrival.
    Prior to departure that evening, he had the fuel tanks filled to capacity. During the flight, and despite his previous flight planning, he did not stop for more fuel. When he was approximately 64 miles from his destination, the pilot noticed that his fuel gauges were indicating that he had less fuel than he anticipated.
    Upon arrival at his destination, he flew an instrument approach and advised the air traffic controller that he was low on fuel. Due to the visibility, he was unable to see the runway environment and executed a missed approach.
    He was then instructed by the air traffic controller to climb to 2,000 feet mean sea level (msl). During the climb, the engine lost power and the airplane began to descend, but the pilot was able to restart the engine. He then began climbing back up to 2,000 feet msl; however, the engine lost power again.
    The airplane once again began to descend, but this time the pilot was unable to restart the engine. The airplane then struck trees and came to rest after falling approximately 20 feet to the ground. Total duration of the flight was approximately 4 hours and 43 minutes.
    Postaccident examination of the airplane revealed that the firewall and left wing were substantially damaged and both fuel tanks were absent of fuel. There was no evidence of any preimpact mechanical failure or malfunction of the airplane or engine. Correlation of radar and weather data revealed that the pilot would have encountered a headwind for the majority of the flight. When asked by a state trooper how the accident occurred, the pilot advised him that he had run out of fuel.
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    Probable Cause and Findings
    Postaccident examination of the airplane revealed that the firewall and left wing were substantially damaged and both fuel tanks were absent of fuel. There was no evidence of any preimpact mechanical failure or malfunction of the airplane or engine. Correlation of radar and weather data revealed that the pilot would have encountered a headwind for the majority of the flight. When asked by a state trooper how the accident occurred, the pilot advised him that he had run out of fuel.
    Probable Cause:
    The pilot's inadequate preflight planning and fuel management, which resulted in a total loss of engine power due to fuel exhaustion.
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  • @ma9x795
    @ma9x795 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Listening to that gave me goosebumps as it brought back memories of a situation I was involved with in the early 90s. In case you're interested in a similar scenario, pull up a sandbag and I'll give you the condensed version.
    At that time I was a UK military air traffic controller based near one of the extremities of the UK. On the afternoon in question, we were down to a skeleton crew of 3 controllers as the weather had closed right in, with the cloud coming right down to ground level and almost zero visibility. We couldn't even see the taxiway right in front of ATC about 30 yards from the visual tower which sat atop a 2 storey building. The weather had closed in so quickly that most of our aircraft had diverted elsewhere and even our Search and Rescue helicopter couldn't get back in from a precision radar talkdown approach (decision height 200ft agl).
    Not long before we were due to close, a Cessna 150 called up on our zone frequency, approx 20 miles away from us, trying to get into the civilian airfield between him and us. It was a frequently unmanned airfield with no instrument approaches. We only had primary radar at that time so had no altitude readouts, but he descended as low as we could take him on radar, and I suspect a bit more besides, but there was no way he was ever going to get in. Upon being asked how much fuel he had, the reply came back "I'm reading empty on both tanks."
    He had no plan at all at this point, so we were left with zero choice. Either we throw the rulebook out of the window, or this guy runs out of fuel and maybe takes out some of the locals as well. He was brought in and fed onto the talkdown radar in an extremely short pattern at about 3 miles and was talked down right to the deck (instructions are supposed to stop at DH). He saw the lights literally as he crossed the threshold. After landing, one of our lineys who was also a GA pilot, dipped the fuel in the tanks and found it to be well into the (technically) unusable fuel.
    I sure hope he learned something about flight planning that day.

  • @arthurbrumagem3844
    @arthurbrumagem3844 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    One thing good about being an older pilot is my bladder fills up long before my tank empties

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s the reason experience matters sir 😎

    • @arthurbrumagem3844
      @arthurbrumagem3844 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Flight_Follower we have had a couple warriors go down at my training field for fuel exhaustion. One totaled and one towed down the highway to the field. Both students had zero injuries

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @arthurbragem3844 good to know both students had no injuries. Fuel is life.

    • @arthurbrumagem3844
      @arthurbrumagem3844 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Flight_Follower as they say “ you can’t use the runway behind you, altitude is your friend and you can’t fly with the fuel you don’t have. My plane always gets put in my hangar full. But then again I very seldom worry about weight and balance based on how and who I fly with. I love my Archer 2

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@arthurbrumagem3844thanks for calling them students, not pilots. Some of them never stop being students, which is good, but some of them never learn more or enough, which is bad.

  • @tomstrum6259
    @tomstrum6259 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Well done RIC !! ... This what Pilot--ATC radio transmissions is supposed to Sound like !! ...Clear distinctly spoken, easy to understand Tempo unlike the "Jersey--Windy City" Gabble .....This Should be the FAA's Required ATC/Pilot communications speech Diction !!

    • @henryptung
      @henryptung หลายเดือนก่อน

      TBH, the number of pauses and random gaps in the ATC transmissions made it sound like ATC was a little behind the situation as well. Not to say the pilot was faultless, but ATC just didn't seem as sharp as they could be given the fuel emergency in progress. Biggest gap was probably "critical fuel" which ATC didn't seem to pick up or follow up on, and the "minimum fuel was not declared" felt a little like self-aware CYA on frequency.

  • @jiyushugi1085
    @jiyushugi1085 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One of the dangers of having an instrument rating is that it can induce pilots to fly in conditions that they aren't ready for....

    • @ricardo-sf
      @ricardo-sf หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      agree with what you are saying -- but in this case .. IFR / or VFR ..flying for longer than you have fuel will always lead to the same outcome ..

  • @webcucciolo
    @webcucciolo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Vector me to the runway, do the best you can" 😮

  • @jaisabai4155
    @jaisabai4155 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    UPS classy 👍

  • @MrSuzuki1187
    @MrSuzuki1187 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A VOR approach wa his first choice when an ILS was available?

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fuel Management- Fundamental Piloting 101

  • @neatstuff1988
    @neatstuff1988 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't be silly. Those piper gauges you can't even read. If they're wiggling you got fuel. If they stop whiggling you start Landing. Some things go without saying make sure you are as lean as you can be. Don't put out flaps until you know you got the field made. Declared emergency not low fuel. If your engine gives up you may as well switch tanks. If that doesn't help. Is pick your spot.

    • @ChrisLandry-go1pm
      @ChrisLandry-go1pm 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and don't try to fly almost 5 hours in a Warrior. He got almost exactly the max range he should have expected. (48 gallons usable, 10 gal/hr, 4:43 flight duration

  • @areza15143
    @areza15143 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Gotta say that last tower controller was not great. Too wordy, took too long to get out what he wanted to say. Was driving me nuts!

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @areza15143 these are not the ATC at JFK for sure 😳

  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Declare PAN or emergency. And learn to fly. Is “critical fuel” a thing? He didn’t have engine trouble, he had piloting trouble. Just got complacent after getting a couple hundred hours. Probably got his instrument too early. Shouldn’t even be able to get it before the first flight review.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree 👍 Complacent after a few hundred hours. And took a non-precision approach.

    • @NJLS
      @NJLS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Flight_FollowerIs a non precision approach, any approach not using ILS?

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Flight_Follower out of fear that he didn’t have enough gas to go around to the ILS. Who outside flight training or goofing around would accept a VOR over an ILS or RNAV, as long as they have the equipment.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @NJLS It's A Non-Precision Approach
      Every VOR approach is non-precision, meaning there is no vertical guidance signal from the VOR. Thats what i know

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @RetreadPhoto I also think the same way, what would I take a VOR approach when the weather is reported broken 600 ft rather I will choose RNAV or ILS

  • @crazy4gta1
    @crazy4gta1 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ATC: ceilings are 600 feet
    Pilot: roger, descending to 600 feet
    ..... oh boy

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน

      😃

    • @Bren39
      @Bren39 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very disconcerting.. But I'm sure he practiced a few approaches in msfs 2020. Low on fuel and you're requesting a non precision approach with clouds right at mins.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Bren39 I wondered why he took the VOR approach. Made 02 go-arounds and finally ended up 😃

  • @user-kq6xf4om3l
    @user-kq6xf4om3l หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ll take the most inaccurate dangerous approach you got buddy.

    • @user-kq6xf4om3l
      @user-kq6xf4om3l หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And make sure it’s for the shortest runway you got.

  • @prmath
    @prmath 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Moral of This story….. TOP OFF THE TANKS ‼️ NEVER worry about saving a few dollars

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Absolutely. Fuel is life

  • @nickgresla234
    @nickgresla234 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just out of curiosity how long ago was this? Coulda swore Richmond only has 2 runways

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t know how long because it doesn’t matter

  • @theothermichaelmurphy
    @theothermichaelmurphy หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Geez they absolutely butchered that dictation

    • @pyme495
      @pyme495 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So many words were wrong, and so many "Inaudible" were clearly understandable.

    • @Shamrock100
      @Shamrock100 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pyme495 Understandable to a native (US) English speaker, I suppose. I could follow it but it is indistinct in places - the receiver is too far from the transmitter/s for real clarity.

  • @petethecatable
    @petethecatable หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Seems like the guy is pretending to be instrument qualified.

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He had an airplane instrument rating. It’s listed in the accident report.

    • @utah20gflyer76
      @utah20gflyer76 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably just not proficient.

  • @CFITOMAHAWK
    @CFITOMAHAWK หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just request the ILS. You will be able to go to 500 agl and avoid the sensitive last few hundred feet of the ILS. It wont be to 200 agl. That was stupiddoo

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, how many poor decisions were made by this guy before he ever began creating problems for the professionals ?

  • @user-lq7hf1ww3k
    @user-lq7hf1ww3k 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Victor can give me vectors?

  • @NickKlose
    @NickKlose หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    (inaudible) nope, they clearly said "have the lights up on their highest setting for you" and "I can put you on a hold for the ILS, whatever you'd like to do" and "engine started go go out on him and then came back on" and "plane is down, pilot is out of the plane, no fire". They never used the word 'mocking'. Come on. I've liked keeping up with this channel but the subtitles are frequently really bad and it's getting frustrating, omitting or even totally misinterpreting the actual comms. Had to unsubscribe after this one. Do better.