Famous Beauty Youtuber’s Dark Past comes to Light. Should She Be Forgiven?
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i swear, korean apology starter pack: an instagram photo of handwritten apology letter
At least it's a bit better than TH-cam apology vids. 😆
@@21minute true tho 😉
The youtuber Ondo just writted it in instagram xdd
ehem x1
Gracia Yolanda Putri but we can see how genuine they are, like the piece of paper could’ve been written by someone else.
Imagine being bullied and being scarred for life while you see your bully thriving, becoming rich and famous and you're just there watching and realizing how unfair life is.
That would be the worst feeling ever :(
I’m sorry but if I saw my bully getting clout I’d expose them
@@dreamsoftheilluminated5158 believe me god won’t leave them alone god will take advantage of them in his way which is the best
@@JuriesVlogs that's good 😌
She got her "karma" back though
"Don't worry, your bully won't be successful in their life later"
The bully later:
Yeah..one guy who was really mean to me in school is now a succesful football player.. it stings but we made up and he wasn't really a bully cause we had some nice talks too but it still sucks.. A lot of people I knew in school are very succesful and/or famous now. They weren't bullies but it sucks cause I've only been stuck at home and in the hospital sick in the years since and they're all models and professional athletes now..
@@RookieAssassin That’s rlly sad I haven’t been through that but don’t compare yourself and focus on them but focus on yourself in becoming a greater person that you can be proud of :)) I know it’s not much but imagine that happening that would be rlly cool :D
You: Too depressed, traumatized and emotionally drained to focus on your career or hobbies :(
@@RookieAssassin bullys are kinda rich arent they i meen they arleady set for life always been the rich kids with daddy issues become bullies
My bullies are now my friends ...idk if i should be happy or sad atp
I think in Korea the biggest mistake is that companies try to make idols "ideal types" of people. Not only in beauty standards but overall they must must act like pure angels. Fans get along with that view and when some controversy blow up. They feel sooo deceived and maybe this is the reason why they cancelled kidols that quickly even some actions happened in past.
THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES
I think this comment should be pinned ; that’s the underlying problem honestly.
exactly😔😔
sadly
But is not bullying anyone so hard to ask for? Someone who is suitable can become an idol. It shouldn't be vice versa, which is someone who is trying to be an idol and try to pretend.
Also when will people realise that bullying is not a "cool" thing. Like come on your ruining someones life for your own enjoyment . Grow up.
Edit: this comment section is getting wilder than i though it'd be ooof .
_H_ _B_ I mean there is almost always armys here it’s not something new so please stop with those army comments
exactly
Stan loona and never stop stanning i came for the photo also why does it bother u its not like ur gonna lose something by this comment duh 😒
Most bullies are young. Young people are ignorant. They simply don't know better, and many bullies also deal with problems themselves and don't know any other way of dealing with it. That's why education and discipline is necessary. Not the "do your homework" kind of education and discipline, but "how to be a better person."
In groups of bullies, there's usually only one problematic person, the catalyst. That's the person who makes it happen. If that person is removed from the group, the group either disperses or becomes docile.
I'll take myself as an example; I hung out with some friends, we were 5 people or so. One person, the catalyst, thought it would be a fun idea to do a certain thing, which was illegal and would've obstructed traffic and possibly caused an accident. They all started doing it, but me, being someone who the catalyst respects a lot said "let's not." What happened? The other people didn't care about what I said, but the catalyst did. His attitude then spread throughout the group, and I even got them to put the things back.
The problem there wasn't the group, it was one person. I stopped only a single person, not the group. Also, similar to what I mentioned earlier, if that person isn't there, nobody is.
Another example with me; I was bullied by a group of people, got rocks and ice thrown at me. I snapped and ran at them. Grabbed the "catalyst" and beat him up. There was never a problem after that since I could keep that person under control, and I even talked to the other guys in the group and there were no issues. I even worked with one of them for about a year later on.
Now, where's the actual problem when it happens in schools? Teachers can't do much about the situation, and even if they can, they don't. If they contact parents, the parents either ignore it, or they make the culprit more stressed out and therefore more likely to cause trouble. The culprit will therefore feel vengeful as a result and likely retaliate. Not a great situation.
What the person needs is a way to deal with emotions, likely stress. So it'd actually be better to send them to a psychiatrist or something similar, who can actually help with such things. Still, since it's a young person, I find it unlikely that those sessions would be taken seriously, and that the stress they feel would just go ignored.
The bigger problem is bullying among adults. I've seen it happen personally when I was a kid, doing one of those "try out a job for a day/week" things. Some adult women between the ages of 20-60 bullying a male worker there. It made me furious, so I yelled at them. I'll omit exactly what since... let's just say I get quite foul mouthed when angered. It was along the lines of miserable excuse for human beings though. Since I was a kid, they obviously didn't do anything to me, but they also didn't take me seriously. They didn't do anything while I was present again, but I heard from my uncle who worked there that the guy actually quit because of it a few months later. A few years later, my uncle also quit because he was fed up with the workplace, since there was so much bullying.
Now, what do they need? Probably a visit to a local police officer, but also something similar to what the child would need. A way to relieve stress and change lifestyles. However, the workplace itself needs help as well. As you may be aware, many humans have a herd mentality. What's interesting is that you only need a strong leader who makes sure others don't do things they shouldn't. So, what the workplace needs is a better leader, someone who has stronger leadership skills, someone who isn't a pushover. After that, the catalyst that existed previously simply needs to go bye bye, which would be easy to justify with enough evidence and complaints of bullying.
Still, there isn't one fix it all solution. Even what I mentioned is just what has best chances of success based on the knowledge that I possess. Even then, there'll still be bullying.
Long story short, bullying will keep existing, and there's simply no way around that. We can work to reduce it, and we can work to help the victims, but we can't get rid of it.
i just dont get how they enjoy it
People who said she changed or etc. *she is still treating her employees horrible, just like her ex victims* she didn't change. she is sad she got caught.
Periodt.
And she’s only sorry because she got caught
there’s no proof those were real employees right? i’m halfway through the video
We don't know if the employees thing is true but I was a huge horrible bully when i was in middle school and I have truly changed. I am ashamed of what I was and own up to what I did till this day and if anyone wants to criticize me about it I think they are right to do so. But I have changed. Maybe she has too... (the bullying I did tho was make fun of some kids in school but never hit them or stole anything, i used harsh words. Which is terrible too)
@Test86 One4 excuse me.... I'm sorry but wtf is this... no culture is "superior" to another. What the hell are you, a western supremacist? LMAO and of course this would be in the comment saying "accept Christ he will protect you"... (obviously not everyone who believes in God/ is religious is like this and I also believe in God but this person really is just pushing that stereotype) That comment is just plain racism no matter how you look at it. You can't say "Western culture is superior to Eastern(Asian mostly) culture", that's honestly disgusting, what the hell...
Many of you guys are mistaking something. Bullies don’t only hurt their victims during that period of bullying, the damage they cause to the victims is lasting, which can drastically alter entire lives. It’s a serious matter alright.
ゆず I was considered a bully, even though I never bullied anyone. First I was bullied for 6 years and after I fought back and beat up that person(male), I was considered a bully. I always have deep anger issue, but I never retaliate until then. However, because my friends were gang members(males) at that time when I was bullied( cause nobody at my school liked me), people started to fear me, until I got in a fight with someone who was a friend (female) and I let her beat me up( I don’t really like fighting especially females).
I also was Considered a bully back then, Before that I was Once a victim, People call me names based on my looks and my real name And because of that i fought back to the bullies who bullied me. That time changing into someone that i knew might hurt other people by doing the same things that my bullies do to me is Making me Stronger, time pass by i realized the bad things i did and i want to change and so i did. Step by step I am apologizing to those who i have hurt. Still, Untill now people still call me names based on my actions back when i was a bully and i am okay with it. Yes, I did bad things but realizing and changing into a better person and apologizing to those you have hurt before is okay and a good thing but apologizing and repeating the same actions you did back then is unacceptable and not a good thing.
TW//Starvation
That’s so true. This one girl bullied me for being obese in elementary school. A guy in my class saw her doing this and decided to add to the bullying by throwing a paper at my head with the reason being, “Because she’s ugly as fuck”. It was such a scarring experience, and I even remembered crying myself to sleep every night because I wasn’t skinny. I starved myself until I was underweight, and even then I still saw myself as overweight. I still have these problems 5 years later, and I will never forgive her for that.
Victims could be die if they cant hold d pressure.
I was bullied because of my facial features. My eyes were too small compared to the other students. I basically created a persona at school so that no one can ever make fun of me again. Initially people say I’m scary and bossy, I try not to. I don’t want to become a bully and am fearful if I’ll be one...
The one who can decide when someone should be forgiven is the victim.
Y'all bully in the comment section here this comment just in case okiee ?!
How can anyone do anything if the victims are cowards and being anonymous ? What possible outcome could arise ?
@@bassssaasuuuup If you have ever been bullied before, you would understand the psychological pain that they are going through. Victims are NOT cowards, the crazy bullies are the cowards that feel stronger from making someone else feel small.
For sure!!
Yes
looking at her outfit, I got Red Velvet "Psycho" vibes
Or a cup of tae with some suga and kookies
Yeah
True
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You got me feeling like a psycho , psycho
I feel like if you’re old enough to bully someone you’re old enough to get backlash for that action
This is an underrated comment. If you can make others suffer for things they didn’t do, then others should be able to make you suffer the way you made other people do.
Celine Abdallah thank you!
Well I know someone who bullied someone when they were 5. For their own reasons though.
Yeah then and there. Just in my opinion.
oh my god yall complain about everything it was in middle school grow tf up
Yeah people change but why do these celebrities only apologize after the issue is out? If they felt so bad and apologetic ( as they mention in their apology msg) they would have realised their mistakes and contacted them long back.
From what ive seen admitting guilt in anyway can hurt someones career (or at the very least image) in the kpop world, plus even if a celebrity did apologize it doesnt take much to ruin that person's career if the person who was bullied wants revenge
I love ur profile pic
@@silentxdeadly 100%
maybe they forgot and moved on lol
i dont think anyone would actually do that, why would they get up one morning 20 years later and tell there fans how they bullied someone and how they are sorry, Although that would be sweet, they aren’t just gonna randomly tell the world and apologise, it’s not something that they are proud of so bringing it up could hurt their pride and could be hard for them, They’re famous, so they all have companies or managers and 99% of the time, Actually… 100% of the time they’re not going to be allowed to do something like that because it will ruin their and their are companies image, sometimes we bully someone but we don’t know that we’re bullying someone until we are told that and until we really look back on it most of the time bullies don’t remember that they bullied someone they remember their either happy school experience or, their own bullying experience so you probably wouldn’t remember. there are lots of reasons why Idols wouldn’t apologise before the situation and honestly if I were in their situation even if I did change I wouldn’t have apologised before hand, and I probably wouldn’t have even been allowed to.
p.s im not saying this for haneuls sake
I was bullied in school many times, my belongings were stolen or strewn in class, was even punched in the groin once. Eventually due to puberty I grew taller and bigger than my bullies and it stopped. I met some of them when I was working, I was their interviewer and gave them fair chance despite the bad history. All of them did not manage to perform however, and could not stay with the company. I felt closure after this, as they knew now that they were truly less capable than the average person. Karma always have a way of catching up.
You are very strong. Inspiring!
Nah, most celebrities are or were bullies. Bullies get away with it all the time
@@Nonyah123 Yes, there are a lot of bullies, but most of them were exposed and their life went downhill from there. Bullies don't always fail or thrive. We really can't say for sure. But well, many are actually suffering from some kind of abuse or they are spoiled kids who are kind of toxic but still got some social skills. These kids are not thriving usually.
Your success and happiness is truly the best revenge
@@victoriawalker7567 Yes, my bullies wrote me a long apology letter because I was getting popular and getting good scores and another invited me to join them for going out. But by the time I get popular and have a good score, they weren't really my main focus. Another important thing is to de-focus and not let them have a lingering impact on you. Let the sadness be your fuel and focus on that when you want to thrive(It is the best motivation. But be warned, you will be hurt really badly at first). Think about your family too and focus on making real friends(if not at school, then outside. Nothing shameful about it and no need to be stubborn). You have all your 70 years of life to come and you can either let this come into your way of success for the next 20 years and have a miserable remaining 50 years or let it go and think of it as a cautionary tale. I expect myself to not mind it completely by the time I am a few years older because I have an entirely brand new life built on new success.
i think that people should forgive peoples past only if you don't repeat it.
edit: there are a lot of replies talking about scenarios that its really hard to forgive. yes, while doing these things are wrong, there is stuff that just cannot be forgiven. and sorry if my english is bad
I like the way you think, if you see the person trying to change and improve themselves people might forgive them. I don't like cancel culture where people associate a person's entire character only by their past. People can change, some people don't.
True. People deserse sen chance.
@@JustPeaachy thank you💞
I know where you're coming from and I agree! But as someone who has been taken advantage of of a predator, it's really hard to just forget what people do to you, you know? Like I know you don't care about my story but when someone does things that one never forgets, it's hard to forget it and just forgive them after everything they've done. The pain, the torture, etc.
Ofc. Predetor should work for their fault. Not just say sorry, write stupiq letter to victim much better they asking their victim . If they r really sorry.. asking forgive is never easy...
Nobody is ruining her life, she ruined herself. This is pure karma, you get what you give to the universe. She was a bully in school and could become a better person as an adult but she never change and became an abusive boss. She's pathetic.
Sone Blink exactly. karma. big time. if she really truly felt horrible about what she did she would have apologized already. and to think she was stupid enough to think those kind of actions wouldn’t resurface???
lol she was young and stupid, like you never done stupid shit when you where young. sit down and look back.
@@jenniferray8569 she was caught bullying her employees. Stop defending bullies.
@@jenniferray8569Doing stupid & crazy things like mixing ice-cream with any spicy food, pranking anyone anywhere are one thing and doing bad things like bulling, STEAING things etc. are another thing.
@@jenniferray8569 There's a difference between innocuous, silly little things that only harm yourself, and being actively abusive to others. I may not be not perfect, but I can categorically state I've never bullied anyone.
Looks can be deceiving
😱yes sometimes
What does that mean?🤧
• minmin • some people might look someway but act a whole different way
@@drpepperlover502 ah, thanks so much😊✨
100%
I have no sympathy for bullies.
if they suffer in the present, it's just the karma they planted in the past.
True. I hate them
Same, I'll never forgive mine. I'm still in therapy and have a low self esteem, a huge depression, trust issues, body dysmorphia and suicidal thoughts because of them while these people look back at their school time and think it was "harmless fun".
@@obnoxious_alien you are so strong love. I hope you can bounce back stronger and know you don’t deserve it at all:( Hugs and I hope you feel better.
@@rosie6 thank you for your kind words.
@@obnoxious_alien wow
I feel that South Korea has a high rate of bullying like why ppl do that i don’t understand ?😐
They also have a high rate of suicides.....
because the youth, like everyone else in that society, is put to impossible standards and stressed out because of it. do you know how long they study, how late at night they leave cram schools? and of you don't suffer like this like everyone else, you're told you will amount to nothing at all. so you either go crazy from stress and keep trying or you give up and have no reason to behave well anymore since you'd already been rejected by the society, right? this is the explanation for both the high suicide and bullying rates. i am not defending the bullies bc it was their choice to decide to harm others to alleviate the pain but just trying to make sense of why they do it. the only ppl who are fine are very talented ones which is the minority. yet, korean media frames the minority as the majority (also u just GOTTA have excellent looks, you have to, not just brains) and so people have very low self esteem because of this.
@@Noelciaaa .
i dont know, south korea has major judgement mentally and psycally and cant control themselves easy. mostly teenage girls, they judge people by looks a lot. if youre in the kpop fandom, youll notice knetizens control idols, leave hate without mercy, and just are uncontrollable. and because the idols are korean or atleast understand the language since they moved to pursue their career in korea, they will accept the harmful words to their lives and that's why they get high suicide rates.
bullying happen everywhere i think, i was being bullied in elementery but to be honest i turn into bully when on high school. I learn that if you make a friends with them and you wouldn't get bullied. it works. our boys group just growing bigger and bigger like 20 boys forming "bully" group and it has been passed on by generation to generation in my school. my group personally never do like punching or hurting others without any reason like "fighting". we just mocking and make fun others of people and i knew it was so bad since i was also in the position of the victims, but the "bully" things will dissolve as the person is growing up. now my friends and I still a good friend and they has a good personality and being professional of their work. i against people who hurting people for fun, but in my case joking around are one of "teen" stuff that really hard to get rid of. bullying now is tend to be more softer than before, back then people do hurting people, hijacking money etc but now nahh
She's not sorry for what she did, she's sorry she got caught lmao XD what a joke
you don't know that lmao.
@@eye63 I mean you don't know anything either. ^_^
Mibuk Desjarlais yeah I don’t but I’m not assuming anything
basically people right now , say sorry after get caught 🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@eye63 judging someone based on what they show you is how life works. We arent mind readers. She has done nothing to prove she is sorry, except apologising once caught, so why would we think she is.
I've been bullied for 6 years in elementary and middle school. I still remember my bully's face and name. She used to make fun of me all the time, steal from me and try to turn every single student on me. I was horrified when I was young. Now it's been like 16 years since the bullying. I don't know anything about her where is she or anything at all. I've learned to build a shield around me to protect me from anyone. She never apologized or felt guilty but I forgave her long tho I can't forget at all. Now I know every bullying case is different. But seeking revenge after so many many years and hunt the bullies down and holding grudge for so long won't make you any better from those bullies. No one should be a bully and no victim should remain a victim. You need a strong spiritual feeling to move on. I know it's hard but living in agony is harder. Life is easy if you make it not if people make it for you. Yes you're the victim but keep filling your head that you're forever a victim will only harm you. You will be even more scared and terrified. So I hope people just open up their mind not heart when it comes to these matters because only your mind will help you overcome any hardship.
UPDATE: recently I met classmate who was with me during my bullying time. He was never nice to me yet didn't bully me. However meeting him after almost 20 years was actually nice we were out with other friends and vibing well. At first I didn't even know who he was until he asked me about my school then he showed me our class photo and coincidentally we were sitting next to each other. So my point here is yes they were dark days and he was there but it's all ok now we're getting along.
Back in 3rd grade I had a bully that always blamed me stole some things from me when I wasnt looking and would always tease me she even put I spider on my jacket when I had arachniphobia although I was younger I still saw and treated her as a friend skip to 5th grade and just realized she was a bully when my friend pin pointed it out for me still didnt wanna hold a grudge against her
It's hard to see that the one who used to bully you live peacefully, successfully and seemingly so innocent now. Might be more satisfying to see him struggling too and laugh at him. If he had a reason to bully me, then I could have a reason to bully him back, no?.
Oh yeah, we are adult now so it's different?.
Well, If the bully wasn't that harsh I prolly forgot him after ten years and couldn't care less about his success but a bully can be so harsh to even come to mind to forgive or forget him.
Even if two people are treated the same, they could feel differently. What might light to you, could be so hard for others.
I remember my bully's face and name too. She actually pretended to be my friend, then turn on me. Her other friends were in on it too. Now I'm one of the girls in school that nobody wants to mess with and I basically know everyone too. I just want to know what type of life she's living now. I don't hate her or anything, but I wanna know if she changed her ways.
Okay I don't recommend doing this but whenever some bullies me, I just say 他妈的 (ta ma de) yeah
It's good to hear you've gotten over it and is at the point where it doesn't affect you. I'm glad for you, but hopefully you can understand just because you have managed to get over it, doesn't mean it is the same for everyone. Different people cope differently, for some, the bullying may really have changed their personality and outlook for the worse and they are not getting better at all, and that is precisely why when they see their abuser doing so well they lash out after years. Please do not think they are being petty (though it could be possible), it just may be they were never really able to recover from it, and I don't think the abuser should just get a free-ride because they've 'grown out of it', nor should the abused not have their abuse being validated just because 'it's been so long'. One knew right from wrong in middleschool.
There's a Russian joke:
A father teaches his 5 y/o daughter.
Dad: Remember, princess. If someone tries to mess up with you, don't cry or complain. Just take a shovel and smash it on their face!
Daughter: But dad, I'm a girl!
Dad: So take a pink shovel.
I was brought up the same way. In our world you must be able to hit back. I was bullied in a kindergarten. After I hit back everything became fine.
You know this is what I always wonder, I have a 8 month old baby and I keep wondering what is the right way to parent. I don't want him to resort to violence but at the same time, I wouldn't want him to be someone that others can walk over either.
@@manjmazi with the things happening in the world it’s better to teach your kid self defense.
@@sj.l8550 My mother used to tell me the same thing, and when I had a child of my own, I told her to do the same. I'd say it was very handy when boys from her 1st grade class started bullying her for not having a father.
That's why we Love Russia. You people know to fight back.
I don't knot how boys bully girls. Where i live every girl knows that if a boy tells you something just complain the teacher and teachers will give them a piece of mind. Normally bullying is done in kindergarten or 1st class, cuz many kids couldn't tell their parents or teachers about it. When i was in 4th i remember a boy wrote something On a piece of paper about me i don't remember what he wrote and his friend told me this. I started crying and told my teacher. She scolded him really well and next day my mother went to school. But yeah if someone do anything here they are not safe cuz our parents and teachers are gonna make them regret it. And bulling only happens rarely.
Forgiving someone from their past depends on how heavy the mistake they did. We can forgive but we can never forget.
yesss
Exactly
and if they have grown as a person. if they dont repeat the behavior from the past, all should be fine
Yes "Forgive on the graveness of their mistakes but never forget their mistakes"
True. This what a motivator answer when I asked what to do if we can't forgive someone even if they had changed.
He said that we should learn to forgive others but it is not an easy thing to do. He also said that people can forgive but they will never forget what had happened.
I could never forgive my bullies. They ruined my school time.
Forgiveness isn’t for the other person. It’s for you, so that you can heal and move forward. I know that it’s difficult to forgive someone when they’ve hurt you, but it’s essential. Remaining upset is a lot more damaging to you than it is to the other person. They’re living their life while you’re holding a grudge.
@@nellyt3926 Preach! Words of wisdom.
I too, have a hard time. I will never forget, but I go on with my life and work hard for myself. In the end, the greatest satisfaction would be me to be successful. I worked hard with the mindset to be so successful that I would get back at those bitches, but now, I focused so much on myself that they don't even matter anymore. In fact, it seems like I am headed to success more than them and they are trying to talk to me. It's hilarious.
@@nellyt3926 wow you just cured my clinical depression 😐
I forgive them but I WILL NEVER FORGET.
i just don't get it why people have double sides like why can't they come clean about it and you are the best most honest youtuber like saranghae
Madhuja Pal right like come clean of it before anyone has the chance to do it while they get big
Have you ever done something and not admitted to it? If yes, then aren't you in the same boat? What differs is merely what you've done. There is no 100% honest person in the world. Even if it's an unintentional lie, it's still a lie, and all of us have told them before due to ignorance.
We simply do not want to admit fault, and in her case where basically her whole career could be ruined, that gives her an even bigger incentive not to admit to it. I've talked to ex-bullies before, and many don't even remember what they did. Some even didn't realize the other person was hurt by it and only thought they were jokes. Apparently they told similar jokes within the group, and that's all good if nobody is hurt. However, when someone who isn't within that group of friends is told the same thing, then it may simply be hurtful.
Things aren't as black and white as we'd often like them to be.
Cottidae you’re totally right I didn’t look at it like that, I guess cause I’m the type of person who tries not to hurt ppl and even if I do I feel the guilt. Especially if I lie, at eventually it comes out unintentionally or purposely it could be yesterday or even some years from now it will happen. So I can understand where people didn’t think of it like that.
@@key-leetravis People are quick to point fingers and put themselves on a pedestal. Yet mere accusations can ruin lives. The pen is mightier than the sword rings true more than ever these days. People forget that our words are extremely potent weapons, yet they don't hesitate to point them at someone's throat. Some don't even understand that they're doing that in the first place.
I'm thankful that you try to not hurt people though, and I hope you keep that up.
Cottidae I thank you for not cussing me out and actually explaining to me or giving me a better understanding of how words and actions can hurt someone let alone yourself. And I definitely will try to keep it up to. It hurt people and always try to apologize for my mistakes 😊
I feel like I am blessed that my class has no bully. I have personally never witnessed bullying or saw anyone else being bullied. I feel grateful for that
Can we just talk about her outfit she’s killing it and her face is literally perfect
Edit : omg thank you for all the likes 💕🖤
G Dragon yesss 💓💓
k e d I wish I could have her face
G Dragon oh my god i just saw you on another video-
G Dragon I had the exact same name and picture before lol then changed it
kinda remind me of pscho by red velvet
Imagine the people shes bullied... they still hear the vile and gross things she has called them, and still remember her gnarly mean face. She can change her looks but things like that dont just go away.... you have to be severly messed up to verbally and mentally abuse/ bully someone.
Actually, even I'm in the middle too. Like no one should be tormented for their past actions, because people change as time goes by. But as a person who was made fun of constantly, if I ever see someone who made my childhood bad become famous and well known for their kind personality etc, I would be mad too because I've seen their other side. This is a tricky situation :(
Ok, so I have/am currently in that situation. I knew somebody for a solid decade through elementary and middle school and I know what type of person she is. She is now famous in hollywood, in some biiiiiiiig movies and is a household name. I wont name her because I respect her privacy. Anyway, one of my kids is actually a fan of one of her movies. I HAVE A POSTER OF HER ON ONE THE WALLS IN MY HOME. So you get where I'm at right? My whole point of describing this to you is as we age, we start to understand. I look at her now and remember how she was back then and /pity/ her because she obviously needed some sort of adult intervention and nobody in her life took care of her problems. I don't hate her, and if I saw her irl again I would definitely be polite af. Just because she hasn't apologized or anything like that doesn't mean that she hasn't changed or that she isn't worth forgiveness. IMO, you should forgive for YOUR sake, not for theirs. Holding onto that negativity isn't good for you.
@@TheChaoticLoser Now I'm curious about who this person is. XD
@@TheChaoticLoser spill itttttt
The past for me does matter. I’m not gonna let someone who used to kill children for fun (for an example) in my life just because the past doesn’t matter.
You can forgive but not forget. If the present her does good deeds and really changed her personality, then that's good and we can forgive her. Treat her normally but always remember that she was once a bully so she could have hidden that dark personality . So always be vigilant.
I immediately unfollowed her as soon as she confirmed her bullying incidents and her being an abusive employer. No one deserves to be bullied or abused.
I'm Korean and this is such a good compilation of all the controversy around TH-camr Haneul. She originally became so popular due to her appearance and being Ulzzang in the past.
Her camera personality was what made people like her so much 😟 bruh...was it fake all this time...
Her personality is plastic...
BA KA I think u meant trash
13din A lot of trash is made of plastic
Park ChimMin 😂😂😂
the IG name actually says "장난하네진자" if you write it with the korean keyboard. Which roughly translates to "are you f*ing with me". Soooo there you go, just a curious fact for you.
Dekoppyon you’re correct I noticed it after reading this.
yea i was wondering how she didnt catch on to that
Timestamp?
@@Deandrax 6:34
Dekoppyon actually it means “are you kidding with me”
I was bullied by 2 girls throughout my high school...years later when they tried contacting me, I told them I hv forgiven them but we just can't be friends...I can't pretend those years where they tormented me for fun didn't happen...so yeah...shooo!
I'm really upset at the fact that noone tried to help you out
Can you tell me what happened in this comment section .... thisvedeo was in my recomendation so I watched it and after I went throught comment and all of them were talking about bullying which was so irrelevant to the vedeo ...... did I miss something or is this woman a bully??
@@lalmuankimikimkimi1566 so basically the lady that they r talking about was a bully in her school years nd it basically shows her double sided face by her ex classmate or the ex victim.
I feel like kdrama bullies are for real like the only difference is : bullies become famous and the victim remains scared for life
She only apologizing because she got caught when multiple people say that your a horrible person you can’t just ignore that.
Sounds like a certain someone...
(AOA Jimin)
Dibidibidi Bish - They all sound the same when guilty
If she is still treating people bad she is no different than when she was young. No forgiveness just my opinion.
honestly though Glassdoor isn't the most credible source of proof. I, a student with 0 work experience, was able to post a review even though I checked a box that literally said I had no work experience while making my profile. I have seen so many situations like this in which a famous person is accused of having been a bully only for people to discover that they were innocent all along.
@@c10v3rf13ld But it was proven she was a bully when she was younger. She might be innocent now, but she WAS once a bully. Yes, Glassdoor isn't really credible but that's common knowledge. Any online site where you can post anonymously or lie about your background is very obviously not credible to a certain extent. But, if she is getting so many of these bad reviews; either she has a few people that really don't like her or she's just a bully as a boss as well.
You can't automatically discredit those Glassdoor reviews when there's quite a bit of them, to begin with. This needs to be looked into because we do not know whats going on. Her bullying could very well be true while it could be false. We aren't there personally so we can't say rather or not she's innocent so don't rule out that she could have done it just because one source is Glassdoor.
@@wiijuu93 throwing stationaries at employees? I guess still not as innocent as she seems, might still consider as a bully still. I have no hate for her and other bullies out there because bullies are not born. People may have gone through something bad that we didn't even know which results in them becoming bullies. Ofc bullying is an unacceptable behaviour :(
I think that people should be forgiven for their past mistakes/wrongdoings if they have changed. But they should still be held accountable and apologize.
Agreed. Also, it depends on the severity of their actions. Eg. Being mean to someone is forgivable imo but actually bullying them isn't.
Agreed, we are people,we make mistakes and learn from them.....If someone is willing to take accountability and apologize, they should be forgiven...
@@just_extremely_confused bullying isnt a mistake tho
NO
@@oldperson6920 bullying shouldn't be justified,but when we are young we usually make horrible choices... Maybe due to truma or stuff like that.... a person can grow up and be a better person....If they are still being awful they should not get another chance.....But if they seriously has made a change we should consider giving them another chance...
She just seemed fake and people don’t like fakeness. Not a surprise
kind of reminds me of the movie "A Silent Voice" where the guy bullied a deaf girl before and then as he grew older he tried to change but the people around him still reminded him of that past idk it's not totally similar but you get the idea
Oh I saw that movie to lol
I cried a lot after watching the anime
Saddest movie ever
I have watched that anime!!!! 😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I love that movie
Honestly, i've been bullied throughout all of middle school and yes, some people are trash and they continue being trash, others change whilst growing up and become better people and genuinely regret what they did so if she has changed, i don't think she deserves all this slander since she was like what 14-15, however judging by people who claim she still hasn't changed (we have a person giving proof in the comments) she is very manipulative. Everyone gossips and makes mistakes and no one's an angel but if it's in your roots to be a bad person, you can't change that
soy tu daddy I feel the same I also been bullied for through out my life
Still people can change
soy tu daddy Still, one thing people need to understand is that even if they ‘changed’ no one owes them any other chances or forgiveness. I don’t forgive nor forget because I got sick of it. After a suicide attempt I realized nothing would change from being the naive little girl I was.
I don’t forgive you and i used to be victim of bullying that’s why I don’t forgive them
Someone changing doesn't erase what they did and they are not owed forgiveness for it
When you ruined someone life, universe will ruined your life too. I hope these bullies rot in hell...
I'm actually think the worst bullies deserve this. I was bullied hard at school time with some physical harm and the girl had been stolen my stuff and throw it in the river near school with her friends just for fun, they closed the doors in the toilet when i was there, I cried every day for almost a year and was suicidal. And she started this bullying just because the popular boy at school she liked gave me some attention. I changed school and it's been past almost 10 years now. I'm totally fine and living my life but this bitch is a popular tv host and youtuber in my country, every time I see her face I feel disgusted. Idk if she changed maybe she did, but I remember all I've gone through when I was younger when I see her and all the years of fighting insecurity cs I was unable to communicate with people because of her.
If it's this kind of case these people don't deserve the fame and the money. But I do belive some can feel shame for their action. Anyway, if you are that evil that you hurt someone THAT way, it's a very small chance you can magically turn into a good person in the future
Rachel Amber what’s her TH-cam account? I just wanna talk 👀
whats her utube channel
I'm sorry you went through that. I can understand where you're coming from but you just stated that you're "totally fine and living your life" so why don't you do that. Can you not live in the present. I'm just speaking as a person who's been bullied and I think if it was 10 years ago it wouldn't make you any better than her to just say she doesn't deserve something. What goes around comes around and just because you didn't physically see her go through something doesn't mean she didn't get what was coming. She may have struggled too. I'm not meaning to be mean it's just sometimes you have to learn to just move on from the past because that's going to hold you back one day.
If you ever want to talk though just message me. Once again... I'm not trying to be mean.
I’m ganna need that TH-cam channel name
Pls tell me the channel name😤
Having been a victim of bullying myself, I do understand how infuriating it must be for the victims to see these people being successful and praised. But as you said, people make mistakes and people change, so if a bully sincerely apologizes and prove with their actions that they have become a better person, I think people should forgive them. The problem is that in most cases like that, the bullies are not actually sorry for what they did, they’re sorry they got caught.
I've been bullied in 1st year high school. You know the funny story is, the bullied become my best friend and relay on me for many things. But when near to graduate, i said to them directly to their face, " do you guys remember, when you bullied me and laugh about me and shaming me. ??" They just keep quiet. Its like their face show they regret doing it and i said " its ok but for me i'll not forget what yall doing to me", then they keep their distance to me and i feel relief and living its like in their future they will not repeat something like that, and know someone they bullied in any time could help them. And i'am glad now they living in better way.♥️♥️♥️♥️
I don't get it. You became best friends so I thought you already forgave her/him even without any apology?
@@icedkaffe i forgave them doesn't mean i can forget, i almost just let flow. But they will not learn something from it. I dont have a friend for 1 year of 3 years highschool, i relay on myself. So its hurt. But you know, we still have good relation as friend not bestfriend anymore. 🙂 Cause i know who are them.
@@leonardo60813 oh I see. Thanks for clearing that out. 🙂
@Daisy Say good for them. Its ok you dont have to. Because we, human don't have responsibility to make everyone to become a better person. But if you want it to. Its ok too. 🙂🙂😃. ❤️❤️❤️❤️♥️♥️
lpard i did the same thing. And since then, I felt my life has been better than ever. I felt strong and confidence. I still feel the same way today and I hope everyone else who got bullied would feel the same way as I did
you know, its not only the victims who suffers, their family suffers watching them having hard time or attempting suicide, damage is larger and huger
than what you think to say ''they were kids'' , and to think of the victim, the family and friends see the bully enjoy their life with success and happiness this is the worst which sometimes lead to exposing them which is what they deserve.
I have Been bullied for 6 years (middle school) by the Whole class... 24 People hated me. They would do anything to make me feel unwanted, even act like i was not even there. Now that im an adult i still have flashbacks from those years so i underestand these people. I dont want to tell more details but being bullied at school and not be able to do anything, not having support from home and even being helpless because my teachers were telling me that They were sick and tired of me complaining about the other Kids and that i should face them alone, was really bad for me. And im sure for everyone Who has Been through this
I just realized I still remember my 4th grade bullies' names. It's crazy how much that stuff sticks with you.
You're not the only one. I still remember the girl who wanted to isolate me in high school and told people not to be friends with me because im someone from SEA, I have brown skin, and I guess I didn't fit her beauty standards therefore I didn't deserve friends, she's Korean and her name is Jiyeon Park. Yup 😢
hmm, i personally think that if a person really changed, their apologies should be genuine and done before getting caught.
I don't agree sometimes we do stupid things when we are younger that we are too ashamed of it to come out so if it comes out apologizing is the right thing to do and assuring everyone that you have actually changed
This was when they’re in middle school that’s like 11/12 years old . During this time we’re we are the most immature and stupid. Why would she apologise about something in middle school when she’s 27/28? I don’t think I would expect someone to still hate me if I did something to them unknowingly in middle school when we’re already adults prob had a family and kids.
Tear_Tea That is actually the mindset of a lot of bullies. Bullies don't understand why people would hold a grudge on something that happened when they're kids, but they're only thinking of it from THEIR perspective. Their behaviours when they're young will most likely to affect the bullied child as they're growing up. These insecurities don't just stay when they're kids, they stay with them until they grow up, and it will be a terrible memory they have to hold onto for the rest of their lives. The bullied kids will never forget the pain of being bullied, while the bullies will go on in life without ever knowing what trauma or insecurities they've brought to another person. How unfair is that?
If someone has really grown, they need to own up to what they did and apologise for it. Admitting you were a shitty kid and apologising is the best action you could do, not feigning ignorance and saying you 'don't remember' bullying someone. That shows just how insignificant the other person was to them.
@@tear_tea uhm nope. As stupid as you're at the age of 11-14 you will actually aware of what you're doing. It's just you who are fooling yourself by "I was immature because I'm still in my teen age, I know nothing"
I got bullied throughout my elementary years and when i was in middle school i didn't realize i began to bullying one of my friend like how i used to be bullied. My classmates made me aware that I'm bullying this friend verbally and it only took me 2 week to talk to my parents and realized my wrong doing and eventually i apologise to this friend and until this time (12 years passed) I remain as a good friend with her.
The mindset of "I was young and stupid, i didn't realize i bullied them, moreover, it's been years they should've forgive me already" this kind of mindset shows how ignorant a person is and that not much has changed in their attitude.
Some of my bullies from my elementary years already genuinely apologizing to me when we met in a reunion and i mentioned about how nasty their behaviour and them calling me names when we were in 3rd-6th grade.
@@MrChannelforwatching boy i was bullied and i think the same like the people above, if its been such a long time like 11-12 who tf cares get some fucking teraphy, i dont hold anything against the people who bullied me when i was in middle school. People should learn to let go, or theyre only slowing themselfs down.
This reminds me of the Webtoon, Ghost Teller. One of its stories was abt an idol girl who was accused of being a bully in school and she was hated so much she killed herself. It makes me a little skeptical of the issues such as that, so I don't want to point fingers just yet. Also, the "sexy" photoshoot shouldn't really matter too much. Personaly. In the end you don't really know the truth. But like, who knows
Crazy Corgi I KNOWWW I READ THAT WEBTOON TOO
@@sakusakiyoomi8886 y'know that episode I'm talking abt right!? That one really broke my heart
Yeah that episode broke my heart! Makes me aware that I shouldnt assume things so soon since I dont know who's saying the truth
Crazy Corgi I just want to know who to believe in and what I should believe in TT
@@hannahli9045 I totally agree!
I was bullied as a kid. It still makes me sad thinking about it, but what saddens me the most is the fact that there are others who were bullied too.
Not sure about forgiveness, it really depends, but definitely won’t forget bullying.
Bullying leaves scars!✌🏻so watch your mouth.
This reminds me of an anime that’s on Netflix “A Silent Voice “ it was great. I feel like it could help understand things from a different perspective. :)
Koe No Katachi is a masterpiece!
It’s so beautiful yet so sad
Andrea Az ikr! I love it so much
Yes that's true
That's my favourite 🥺
Bullying one person holds more weight than being nice to 10. If someone is genuinely sorry for being mean to someone, they will apologize on their own terms. They will not wait until they are forced to. If you can bully someone in the first place then you have put that negative karma on your back, there is no one to blame but yourself for any criticism you receive for it. Bullying multiple people and being mean repeatedly is unacceptable and there is no remorse in my heart for her. I do NOT think she should be bullied, no one deserves that, but I am happy that people see her for what she is and stopped supporting her.
Also, I was very different in middle school, but I ALWAYS knew right and wrong when it came to how to treat others. 10-11-12 years old, I, and most people, know what bullying is and what affects it can have on those bullied.
Are you referring to Hanseul? Or someone else?
Just confused, because if its someone else you had in mind, there is misinformation, but if Hanseul (or however you spell her name) then sure.
I don’t know why but your voice calms me :(((
IKR her voice is very calming
I'm back watching this coz I slept on her voice yesterday lmao...
I was bullied badly by this girl but as we grew up and left school she asked to meet up. Obviously I was skeptical and brought pepper spray because she did hit me a few times in school and pulled out a chunk of my hair.
She personally apologized sincerely and actually started to cry about it. Now we’re really close friends 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
As someone who was bullied the psychological damage that it does to a person makes it hard for you to forget. Her actions back then were very much inexcusable but if what the ‘employee’ said was true it’s clear as day that she hasn’t changed her ways. I don’t think bullying her or trying to ruin her career will solve anything because she probably has her own insecurities that she has to live with for the rest of her life.
She also appeared in Asian Boss! I remembered her interview about her company.
So that's why she looks familiar to me...
@@aiocsalev oh yeah
Yeah, me too
I'm looking for this comment, now it confirms my speculation. I tried searching the video on asian boss and i couldn't find it anymore. Maybe it was deleted.
Which one? The one where it says she models her own products?
I don't know its a really iffy situation, If she really changed then good for her and I believe in second chances. I was bullied all through out ALL my school years especially by this 1 girl. As I got older though, I just didn't care about her anymore, she has nothing to due with me anymore. I heard she had a successful dance company about 10 years ago and it was like meh whatever, still didn't affect me at all. I would never try to ruin her livelihood over the bullying, however when I heard the dance studio closed due to her own shortcomings, I would be lying if I said I didn't smile a little.
Just try to remember the world isn't black and white, and if you are not the parties involved its hard to say anything concrete on the subject.
The fact that she said she didn’t remember was a mere fact that she was a bully. The way she handled the situation tells you the quality of person she still continues to be. Definitely not a person that I would want to continue watching. People can change but not this one.
The impact bullies leave on victims is everlasting. It doesn't go away. We may forgot what was said to us, or even what was done to us.. but we will never forgot the pain and suffering we went through.
No wayyyyyyyy haneul??!! I used to watch her all the time :(
😭
same.....
same !!
Same
Saame and i saw her apology post but never understood how i was a big fan of her heizle and rose or idk her name
I've also been bullied. I had a strange addiction when I was a kid . Somehow my classmates found out and it was just traumatizing. I was made fun of, People hated me because I was "weird ". People would always judge me .Even teachers would look down on me .And up to now, I have no confidence and i still live in fear. I fear that one day in the future someone would use that childhood addiction to bully, harass or make my life miserable
It's just scary
Do you ever talk to you classmate?
@@nieni5998 no after I completed
I moved to another city
And I'm scared to see someone from my past😖
@@Nellyty5 please don't be scared. try to talk to them at least hi, if you don't communicate with them they might think you still weird prove that you not you past anymore because people change so please be brave to talk to them. I have friends same situation as you. She had weird hobbies to and our teachers found about and really shook and worried about it but I think it's kinda okay? cuz these day Internet there's alot more worse than she did. Sometimes I try to talk to her and she fine with me but when it's come to my classmate she wouldn't even care and just keep quiet even though she had been bullied. Sometimes I will tell my classmate to stop the bullying her. I think my classmate bullied her because she never talk that why she became a easy target for bullying. I just wish she can stand up for her self
@@nieni5998 aww tnx
I hope she can also stand up for herself soon
I was in a similar situation myself. If you don't get therapy, especially if it just happened, when you reach your mid-20s, all that trauma comes to a head and can screw up your life. It's only the past 5 months I started cleaning up my act and finally understood how to love and take care of myself. If you moving to a new city helped you get rid of those toxic people in your life, then you're in the right direction! Nurture, hit the gym, educate yourself to build self-confidence, and no one will look down on you.
Ive been bullied almost my whole life from kindergarten to freshman year highschool ive thought of ending my life multiple times this type of thing sticks to u your whole life its not easy to forgive and forget
Now i understand that ppl can change and its true but i still think that they should be held accountable for making a persons life a living hell 😐
Why ending your life when u should live more better ?
No one can understand or feel the pain u have feelt , but girl u are strong. In this way make yourself more stronger. Imagine some people wouldn never make till tomorrow, some ppl wished to live one more day, and some sick people wished to be healthy. Give yourself force to walk , give urself peace and walk with your head hight. U are more stronger than u think, all the negative things happend to you, make them in positive way and help others. .When someone see the courage in you would start to belive in themselves. ♥️♥️♥️♥️ Much love.
And sometimes we need to stoo and think about bullies too , why ? bc insted of us, they are the sickes one. 🤗
your outfit is so cute, it reminds me of Red Velvet's Psycho. SO CUTEEEEE !!!
Hyolyn saying she couldn’t remember bullying the victim really rubbed me the wrong way. I stopped supporting her. I think it’s the way the celebs handle these matters //edit: the victim supposedly lied, read below comments for clearer story.
She probably remembered, I can't support her either.
Wht did hyolon did
adam pilget she bullied someone in middle school I think and the victim came out (more than once) but hyolyn said she couldn’t remember
Actually yah, if you think about it, if she never bullied anyone she would’ve denied it even if she didn’t remembered anything when she was younger. But she said “I don’t remembered” I think imma stopping stanning her now... it’s very disappointing to see that ppl we stan were bullies or bad ppl before fame. But as always I don’t want to think of them as bad ppl forever. Hopefully they change for the better good
Stop acting like a bunch of naive children with this little valsetta of "internet justice"
Just because someone *ANONYMOUSLY* (btw that alone should be a HUGE red flag in itself) says a story with no real hard-hitting proof or evidance, you dont just instantly believe it and blow everything out of proportion the way you all are.. It's sad, dishonest and straight up despicable, you're just following a "he said she said" blindly and then ruining someone elses livelihood, someone who very well and highly had a high chance of being innocent and just having to fend off and defend their image.
In this industry there isnt ever just a "oh, they should just say they're innocent and everything will be ok" no.. thats never a thing.. in our fucked up society nowadays a mere baseless profeless accusation can cripple people from stability in work happiness and an image instantly, not even going into it fully.. Theres never any mercy, what should be "innocent until proven guilty" turns the other way around and i find it such a scummy thing.. You people just go around canceling and ending peoples careers over a tweet or an anonymous blogpost on a random internet forum 10-20 years AFTER the incident has happened. Which I think is bullshit. Its bullshit and I hate how everyones falling for it..
I've been bullied too, throughout my life, since I was in KINDERGARDEN, since I was 8!! AND YET I still dont let that cloud my judgement, I still dont let that erase logic. Precognigal biases are awful and most of you should be repenting right now for falling so short for such obvious lies..! 😠
I bullied someone before when I was 6 years old. Looking back at it now, I feel deeply ashamed. I'm not proud of it. The memory of it made me strived to be a better person.
Whenever I tell my friends about this, they'd laugh and think I was joking and say that there is no way I did that before. Somehow, it kinda gives me peace to think of how much I've changed that my friends can't even imagine me bullying someone.
But the person that could really give me that feeling of redemption is the person I hurt the most back then. I haven't seen her since then. I hope I'd be given the chance to say sorry.
I never expected to confess this on TH-cam much less from Grace's channel but I'm thankful I was able to express what I've been feeling all these years.
You were 6. A six year old doesn't think maturely like you today. I don't think what you did as a baby defines who you are now. A
Sameeee 😩 I teased one of my classmates when I was 5 and now I feel guilty about it. She's innocent, didn't even bother me and yet, I called her "frog". 😭😭😭😭 She had moved somewhere (when I was 7 (?)) because of her father's job, and since then, I don't have a chance to meet her. I want to apologise. 😩
Same. I was 12 and there was this new girl who just transferred into our school. I'm not exactly the main bullies, but I've watched my classmates bullied her and I laughed along with it, even though I didn't do the bullying directly. Looking back now, it was really shitty of me and i wish I could have stood up for her 🤧
@@bshrdxxl Damn and i had someone call me frog girl.... Yeah not a good experience 😶
@@masaya3740 did u not read what they said. they regretted it, you're not the one who decides if their self redemption is worth it
I got bullied in school by a girl called Chloe and I still get angry whenever her profile is suggested to me on facebook. However, I'm basically the same age as you and I think about myself when I was younger and I was so immature. I also did horrible things to other people that I'd never do now and I believe the people who did horrible things to me wouldn't do those things now. It's really hard for me to believe these people have just remained bad people and aren't deserving of living their lives because of things they did as teenagers.
you understand bullying is more than just a simple mistake it ruins peoples lives and makes them feel insecure about things they should be just because they were teens doesnt mean it goes away teenagers should know being rude isnt normal
@@yoongi2461 Never said it's just a simple mistake and I do believe it's something that everyone should grow up and realise is wrong. Do I think someone should be punished the rest of their lives because they made a harsh comment towards someone when they were young? No, I don't. I've literally been the victim of relentless online slut shaming by people I knew in my teen years but now I can see one of those bullies struggling with just having a baby and I genuinely feel sorry for her because I'm not petty enough to think that she should suffer her whole life over something that effected me when I was younger.
@@Anabellw0w it wasnt just a harsh comment it was multiple things she did and she also is still rude to her managment and overworked the people around her while she was a full grown adult she doesnt care about other people so why should we care about hwr
@@Anabellw0w You don't have to defend your peace over your feelings to a stranger on the internet. It's correct that we don't HAVE to forgive the people that hurt us, but when we do it is for ourselves, not for them.
I had an embarrassing memory of a moment I was egged into, I contacted that person many years ago online and apologized for my behaviour in that moment. We ended up having a really great laugh and I was grateful to know he had accepted my apology - but I didn't demand it. He didn't need to forgive me, I just wanted to apologise for that moment where I had embarrassed him badly and behaved badly.
Bullying IS cruel, but we aren't talking about murderers here, we are talking about very common social interactions for teenagers. And we cannot learn without making mistakes.
@@yoongi2461 ugh, I'm not going to argue with you. I don't know this girl, never met her in my life and don't know the people who have said these things about her so have no opinion on it. Feel free to be upset about my comment.
I was bullied for MANY years and even if it happened a long time ago I am still suffering the consequences and psichological damage and I probably will have to deal with that for the rest of my life. Hearing how that idol said she doesn't remember what happened in such a condescending way when she literally ruined someone's life was a perfect example of how this kind of people keep living their life without realizing the impact of their actions. Most of them never faced any consequences when they were younger, so what makes you think they have changed? Plus, at 15 years old everyone is already mature enough to know that stealing/being an overall horrible person is wrong. Bullies KNOW what they are doing. They weren't innocent little kids. And they should face consequences because what they did to people it's still chasing their victims up to this day.
Having their careers ruined is a small consequence to face for ruining someone else's LIFE
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That ullzzang show had so many toxic people. Jung joon young was in it too.
Also i get that people change for the better and i love that but she never addressed it meaning it has never been something she regrets to the point of her not being able to sleep at night. The people who were oppressed by her and were bullied by her would see it as a wound opening every time they see her video in their recommended or even on tv and especially if she is portrayed as this innocent, kind person. I hope she addresses it and tries meeting them in person to apologize
I think the bullies should be held accountable for the harm they have done even if it's been 5 or 6 years ago cause if nobody says anything they will think they can get away with it and just act like there a new person
I been a bully when I was a 6 years old kid and i bullied a 5 years old kid...I mean I was mean to her cause she was really cute and I remember she once cried and from that I stopped. After few days I left my country and also switched to a new school and this time I got bullied verbally. So yeah please don't bully or be mean to anyone for no reason cause one day you will have to taste your own medicine.
I'm happy that you have reflected on your actions💜Have a nice day/night......
Me at 3:14am :*sleeping*
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The Hyorin one surprised me... I didn’t know that
acethreat im not a haters but look at her face, i mean she has those "bully" looks
Same😅😊
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It's kinda difficult to just go one side completely, it depends on how long ago it was and how it is being dealt with now. Without a lot of context it's quite hard to decide, and as a victim of bullying I believe that there should be a proper apology. You see a lot of the celebrity apologies being quite short and don't sound very sincere, they just sound very manufactured and not from the heart.
Hello guys! I was bullied my whole whole grade school life and it made me feel I was worthless and useless being in Earth who doesn't belong anywhere. The bullying I got was more on words, so please to all who loves to write hate comments, please be reminded that words cut deeper and heals longer than bruises from violence. I am better now, I believe because I am starting to know my self worth and loving myself more. Also, there is this poem that my mom told me about when I was having a hard time, "Desiderata". My favourite lines was: "You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here." So always remember everyone that you are worthy and has purpose in this world; hence love yourself more.
I was bullied in my middle school, and that changed my life and my way of seeing myself even after 17 years later.
I'm now trying to let go the grudge, and it's a difficult process.
Give your pain to Jesus.
It's humiliating to be bullied! I was taught that if someone hits you, strike back even harder! My weapon of choice, my loud voice and them being shamed by my words! That pretty much took care of it! But that's me and my personality. Sometimes, you have to be considered a little crazy to keep them away from you! Fight back!!
omg im shookt. i am actually following her in IG since i saw one of her interview and got inspired by her being a successful CEO at such a young age. huhu this is so sad 😢
Sameee
It’s not really when she was younger , as there is speculation that she is a bully at work
right like i don’t care if she’s getting bashed still yeah she was really young but that behavior she had still showed in her work life. she clearly hasn’t grown if she mistreats her employee. i feel bad for the victims. she’s only sorry because she got caught.
It's sad that cruel people thrive better in this world. No viruses can rid of them, and no cure can save them 🙃
"Change is inevitable, but growth is optional."
-John C. Maxwell
be good to people especially if you want to put yourself out there be it a artist or online personality.
we all have had those moments but apologize and move on.
The reason why i didnt revenge on my bullies was because i know that there’ll be a time someday that they’ll receive a bad karma for what they did to me
getting bullied is like a scar. i was bullied for 4 years and it really traumatized me. it gave me anxiety. i can't go out of the house without a mask (even before corona lol) because people said i look like a horse combined with a cookie. just because i had pimples and big teeth. i think the girl don't deserve to be forgiven. she gave someone a hard time and that person is probably suffering because of her now
Oh I also can't go outside without a mask, nice to see that I'm not as weird as my parents say that I am. I'm so sorry that happened to you, but I'm sure that you're beautiful! Do you still wear the masks, though? I know that your comment was posted 2 years ago but stiill.. You know, the feeling of just relating to someone!!
@@haphephobia ever since the government of my country have decided that people are allowed to not wear their masks, i actually don't wear them in school ! i am confident for now, i think i look better than how i used to since i started appreciating my facial features! i don't think i was ugly anyway, i just didn't know how to dress up and get out of my comfort zone. that's all
You look really pretty, Grace 🥰 Love the earrings, both of them.
love u too !!!😘
I think that it's a good thing, I feel like it sends a signal to younger children who look up to these celebrities, that bullying is never okay and that it can ruin your future and that your dark past will always caught up to you
I think they should be forgiven if they are genuinely sorry to their victims. Like you said none of us are perfect, everyone makes mistakes. But if they don't regret their past and are still trying to defend themselves, then I think that's problematic.
Haneul was one of my fav youtubers that I'll watch when I want to be just relax while having a cup of hot tea, but it's been months since the last time I watch her content and I see this video on my youtube recommendation and I'm *shook*
I still can’t forgive the girls who bullied me they literally ruined my life, I think she should be cancelled and it looks she is still bullying her employees forgiving them is like telling youth it’s okay for you to bully
The only one who can truly ruin your life, is yourself. You have to choose whether you want to let it ruin your life or not. Because I wasn’t even treated like a human being. I was suicidal for years but now I’ve let it all go and ive become a much better person, with a whole bright future ahead of me. Don’t ever let it get to you. Be stronger than that.
AngelBaby A sometimes I just can’t their comments still haunt me to this day I was a bright kid when I was in elementary school and very social but they started bully me from six grade till I graduated high school it is really hard to move on or have confidence in yourself after being Ridiculed for seven years straight esp when you are at a sensitive age I can’t even take any pics now. Recently one of my bullies mom died I was soo happy I know I shouldn’t be like that but I thought she got what she deserved
I’m being bullied as an adult too, but as an adult, I feel I can manage the stress better as compared to my younger self. The hurt is there but I’m thankful for my close friends whom I can confide in. And also knowing people who “bully” have their issues to deal with help me to release those hurt.
And for the bullies, i think for whatever we do, we have to bear the consequences for our actions whether it’s now or in the future. All of us make mistakes, hence learning to rectify the mistakes is part of process of bearing the consequences too. I think if the TH-camr is able to handle this matter well, I think it will gradually get better for her.
Don'tmessupmyeri Aeri Aeri It’s going to take awhile, I know. I’ve been bullied from age 6 until just months ago. It’s a hard process and I’m only 19, Im still just a kid. But I know that we can all become stronger and move on. If you want, I can be your online friend. I’ve helped so many of my friends through their problems and I won’t mind helping once again. And just know that, what you’re thinking, isn’t wrong, it’s just part of the process. You got badly hurt. It’s expected.
i am sorry this happened to you , you deserve better
I swear grace's outfits never disappoint me
Literally grace is literally giving me her beautiful fashion style it’s sooo cute
Honestly I think it really depends if that person have change. I’m always about forgiving but not forgetting. Kids are the most toxic when younger. I can relate because when I was in middle school I was not the nicest and the kids I was in school with were also not the nicest. I’ve never been seriously bullied before so I can’t really say, but I think you shouldn’t really hold someone past against them if they really have changed themself around, especially not what they’ve done as kids because they were just a kid.
I agree with what you say, but i disagree with the statement "they were just a kid." Yes they probably were kids, but most kids get bullied when they're of highschool age, those kids know damn well what they're doing and what the consequences could be. That said, i do agree it shouldn't be held against them in the future if they've truly shown that they've changed.
Nope. I got bullied when I'm in Junior high and its bad. They almost sexually harassing me because puberty hit me earlier and always make sexual jokes whenever I got near them. Until now, I'm still afraid of men because of them and you said that i shouldn't bring that up????
@@hilaholo6822 That's verbal/non-verbal conduct (which can lead to physical conduct), just straight up disgusting🤢 I agree, you shouldn't keep quiet about it if someone hasn't changed.
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@@jolie0921 "you must be fckng kidding me rn"
not ur hyung ahhhhh thank you hahahahaha was confused for like .1 seconds thinking omg what did I say?!
Mikki L Thank you
I def dont think people should be held accountable for things they did in their past (unless its murder or smth lol) AS LONG as they've shown they have changed.
I totally agree with that.
true but at the same time we don’t know the real them we just see them in front of cameras so they might not have changed
Actually for victims of bullys they still live everyday in hell
right?? like we all did dumb things when we were immature. the people here who wants to cancel celebrities who did some dumb mistakes in the past are the very same people who says our past should not define our present and that we should all forgive 🙄. of course unless they did like legit severe stuff like you mentioned. i think people should only be cancelled if theyre very judgemental to other people's past mistakes AND people who did something horrible or theyre still a jerk to this day.
I was bullied in the past..I endured many times, gave warning to them not to do that again. Well, when that got over the line, I fought back..and gave the bully a good beating. And fortunately the parents were aware of the situation. Plz talk to ur parents, and learn self defence. I would have regretted it, if I hadn't fought back.
And..
I don't think most people ever exactly change, they just learn to hide the skeletons in their closets well. period.
"we all did dumb things", yeah true but not mentally and physically harrasing someone. If you call that dumb, then we need to change the meaning of dumb. Like seriously.
Something I think about often from when I was in high school. My friend at the time would always yell qnd say horrible stuff do another girl, (ill call her ten) Ten was asian and I didn't know her at all. I had only rectly moved schools and Lee was among a few girls I knew. Lee would often yell horrible things at Ten and call her gross. I remember once asking Lee why she hated Ten. I thought maybe they had fought in the past before I'd joined their school. Surprisingly Lee answered with "idk because she's asian" with a very brushed off attitude.
I think about Ten pretty often, she was always sweet to me. I had fond memories of Ten until recently when I suddenly remembered how Lee treated her. For a few month now I've always thought of finding Ten and saying sorry for not telling Lee to stop. It's been 10 years and I do still feel guilty when I remember her.
I was bullied by my teachers because I was poor, n the sad thing was when I saw the same teacher bullying my sister in the assembly line in front of everyone standing parallel to me...... N this thought still torment me....
a lot of people in the comments are saying that if idols were “iljins” they should just be cancelled, personally, I don’t think that idols should be cancelled, although some idols might still be iljins some of them have really changed and they shouldn’t be punished and shamed for the rest of their lives over something that they did as a child when their minds still haven’t fully developed, of course bullying is not okay but for fans to bully the idols for the rest of their lives is exactly what the idol did to some kids but what’s worse is that your mind knows that bullying is not okay and that you understand the concept of bullying but you decide to bully an idol and hate on them for bullying people when you’re doing the same thing to them, it’s completely okay to be mad and upset at the idol, we are allowed to talk about why we are upset with the idol and also educate them on why what they did was wrong you don’t have to forgive them, but personally I do think some idols or any sort of celebrity should have a chance to be forgiven, because some of them have changed, and we’ve all bullied someone and been bullied ourselves at least once in our life sometimes we don’t even realise that we are bullying someone. what I’m trying to say here is that some idols and celebrities have generally changed for the better and some of them we can forgive but we shouldn’t just go around either forgiving everyone or cancelling everyone.
SOOOOO YEAHHHHH thats just what i think
TLDR: Let people have a chance to change and you aren't any different from how they were if bully them for their past
Say it louder for the people in the back
Yup exactly !! I will also agree on this....I mean yah bulling is a very bad thing and no body should do that 😔 neither become a victim...but at the end of the day " we should give a 2nd chance " and before I never thought like that I always hated these idols but after watching NCT Taeyong I am sure idols also wish to forget there past and start a new fresh life and totally changed ✌️ and I am not interested in there past mistakes...I will support them for there present and future..
I really agree with, it hurts me to read all of the negatives comments on the comment section of this video..hahh~
She destroyed someone self-esteem, self confidence, self image, self motivation. She ruined someone life mentally, physically, emotionally that's a big deal she a dream crushers
I feel bad her hard work is going to waste because of a pass but she created that pass and the person she bullied won't have the confidence to begin there own life because they're afraid of what evil the world will throw their way bulling is something that affects an individual for life it's permanent damage
Bullies that don’t recognize that they were bullies don’t deserve forgiveness.
They ruin lives, their actions stay with the victims forever.
I wish the worst to my school bullies.
I dont think she's sorry at all, just that she got caught. If a person is truly sorry, id imagine they would apologize before they were caught. If you feel guilty about smt, that feeling will haunt you until you make up for it. If these ppl were able to live with that feeling for so long, i dont think theyre sorry at all.
what I appreciate is that haneul actually told the truth, admitted that in the past she was a bully, that's a something that's hard to achieve as a person
but truly can't believe why bullying is still continued, I hate to know and experience that
Bullies do a lot of harm to those they bully. Mentally especially. Sure, people do change for the better over time. But the pain they caused doesn’t go away. It’s hard to answer if you can fully forgive them or not. It depends on how severe the bullying was.
character development should be a thing in korea by now. a person's past shouldn't define his present if you can see that he really changed. but it's really uncomfortable when you see that person who bullied you before getting a lot of love and support and acting all kind and cute when that person bullied you in school. i'm kinda in the middle of this as well.
I personally feel like if they own up to everything before they get exposed then it shouldn't effect them but if they try move on acting like nothing happened then it should effect them
I say once a bully, always a bully. It can get really extreme and some of these people grow up to be adult bullies as well. They should at least apologize.