The only bow shop around me for like 4 hours every direction are scamming n taking advantage of people . After taking 2 different bows to them 3 different times each to get tuned . And getting charged for them to not tune it each time.. One bow I biught from them by the way still charged me. I get home my peep off like an inch . Rest timing off..i end up with more problems after then when i went to them.. so i decided I'm just going to buy everything on ebay and work on my own stuff from now on... If I had enough start up money I would open my own archery shop . I can't stand how they're treating people .
Heya Steve, It's Jase. I know who you're referring to and they could be doing it a. without realising, or b. to draw business away from you. I've seen this happen in every industry I've worked in and it's not healthy or good for any industry long-term because it drives profits down for everyone and the customers eventually lose out because the businesses close down. I think you should call them and have a rational chat with them to see if you can come to a compromised agreement whereby you both compliment each other. It may not be possible but at least you'll definitively know where you stand. And who knows, you might raise something they were previously unaware of and in doing so you'll be promoting better awareness and longer-term strategic thinking which will ultimately benefit everyone.
How do you fix Stupid? It is so annoying. I spent years building the PSE brand I had over 300,000 invested in the products and for less than 10 bows of sales you kill a brand and kill stores. I hate seeing stores go out of business. It takes so much time and effort to have a business.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale I know the store Steve, have not been there for 6 months, they dont have much competition in that part of state, just 1 thing ,when you go to their website the bow comes up at 1519$, but when i add that bow into my cart the payment is 1999.95$, could be somebody has made an error, anyway keep up the good work.
Just looked on your competitors website, and the price is $1999.95 firm. Pretty sure we were looking at the same website too (Apex?). Maybe they saw your video and had a good hard look at themselves!
@@thenameiwantedwastaken. Weird. I just had another look at the Apex website. The page that Steven posted has been altered, but on the page that displays all of the bows it shows the sale price. They even jacked up the RRP to $1999.95. If you were to buy from the website right now, you'd be paying 2 grand.
@gangrenous77 I wonder if he listed his "demo bow" I know some retailers get to buy one bow at a lower cost to use as a demo model Then he sold it and the next order is full tilt retail
There are a bunch of dealers across the US that have a similar model. They make their profit off of low margin and high volume of products in other departments, and then run out their competition, only to then reduce the stock they have because they've reduced competition and no longer need to stock products to be competitive.
is it possible that other dealer discounted the Decree because he has a problem dealing with PSE getting product and service ? I owned a PSE Thunderbolt with lightening single cam , nice simple bow .
Do PSE do retrospective discounts? I've seen dealers in my industry dumping stock mid-cycle to hit a particular turnover with a wholesaler. The individual losses on the tasty new discounted items are less than the discount they expect to achieve on their previous month's order. A race to the bottom is never good for anyone though. I refuse to take the bait. I know my service is better than my competitors and I retain my customers.
Ebay is the way.. some good reputable sellers two. Got limbs replaces no questions. Glue let go on a recurve limb after 1500 or more shots in 3 months. They just sent me more..🎉🎉❤
I don't think it's a conspiracy, looking at the website I think they put the discount on the wrong bow. Their page for the PSE Unite has the same prices as your screenshot. Good deal if someone got onto it fast, they probably wouldn't honour it though.
I just paid less than $1300 for my Prime RVX36 in the U.S and it stacks arrows and I get free strings every 2 years, but I was required to buy it in person.
No - please tell me when. I discount items I cant move like the Obsessions are super cheap now. I had Abbey put a store next to me selling at cost for 6 months till he went out of business. Benson sold Supras at cost price for a year to put a local dealer out of business. When every I discount an item I offer shops the items cheaper. So shops can always make a profit. Shops I sell to normally sell at our price.
What's crazy man is a simple fact that I could buy a boat a PSE Supra back in the day cheaper from you than I could hear in the US and then come to find out there's certain archery businesses that here in the US make like six or seven hundred dollars per bow
If you ask me there should be like over here there's a rule against that s*** you can't do that unless the manufacturer says hey you guys can drop the price his front door should be shut
Steve I think that price was an accident by an employee or the website manager. This has happen before to me in the U.S with petco. you usually buy the product go to the store to pick it up. two outcomes happen they honor the sale or explain to you website price was wrong and refound your money. I am just saying this could be another possibiliity. I check on your competitor website and the discount price is gone.
Yes he does it from time to time. Sometimes I wonder if he does it to put pressure on dealers - but then because this bow was new and I had not listed it I was this make no sense unless he is going broke.
@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale He is doing it to get you triggered. I doubt he got more than 5 decrees in a shipment. I have been waiting for weeks for 2 mach 33 and I am in the U.S (order them 7 weeks ago)
Usually from another country, the manufacturer doesn't allow to sell the item.. guitars you can't buy from the us to Canada.. something like that... the orange guy is all about that..💁♂️ that shop is a cocktail..maybe that doesn't apply to Australia..✌️🎯♥️🇨🇦
Trump looks at how much USA buys and sells from a country. With Australia we buy alot more than we sell to the USA so the USA budget with Australia is in surplus. So last time Trump was in all Australian goods are exempt. We had a free trade agreement. But when the USA loose like from china and Germany he is looking to add.
That's right, I've run into it a lot with music supplies. I'm in the boonies in Canada and I can't buy for example BOSS/Roland products from anywhere outside canada. The sellers "aren't allowed". Had the same with a guitar from the US.
I do like u Steve, and it is interesting for exchange rates and prices. BUT. A big whinge for just 1 bow in stock on special !!!??? I would understand if there was like 30+ in stock maybe.... But 1. Maybe i missed something about more stock coming.
I think this is interesting so I knock out a video. I had the day off work putting stuff online. You probably see me thinking as I do a video as I think about the topic. I would have put in orders for more Decrees having seen the bow. But now I have to wait and see what the other guy does.
Play Steven my dear brother listen to what you're saying the cost to set up a new business is not there okay and if it's not there guess what there ain't going to be no other business there either before you know it they're all going to be shut down so bro you might want to consider your options I mean you said it yourself you got that building that's worth a million that right there could get you set up here I would say pretty close to it anyway but then that cuts you off from I guess not really because you would be like one of the only ones us companies I think it's a good thing but that's going to put a lot of people under at the same time if they can't afford to get their own products manufactured here in the US because the US manufacturing is so expensive I think they need to start a big round up of money tax money whatever to give some of these businesses to fail to bring their prices down so they can manufacture for people and then new business can open up then people can start selling stuff
I could tell you about the number of stores this has put people out of business. I dont think it is bashing. What I said is I cant stock a product which people are selling at below cost. So I cant order anymore. In the USA it is not allowed for people to discount new items.
What if it's this b******* what if we don't have the bow at all and he's just trying to get people to his website or it's a sample bow and he's trying to sell it off
I love this channel, steve your a boss my friend 💪
The only bow shop around me for like 4 hours every direction are scamming n taking advantage of people . After taking 2 different bows to them 3 different times each to get tuned . And getting charged for them to not tune it each time.. One bow I biught from them by the way still charged me. I get home my peep off like an inch . Rest timing off..i end up with more problems after then when i went to them.. so i decided I'm just going to buy everything on ebay and work on my own stuff from now on... If I had enough start up money I would open my own archery shop . I can't stand how they're treating people .
I'd sooner pay a little more and support my local archery store.
If we don't use our local businesses they vanish.
Heya Steve,
It's Jase. I know who you're referring to and they could be doing it a. without realising, or b. to draw business away from you. I've seen this happen in every industry I've worked in and it's not healthy or good for any industry long-term because it drives profits down for everyone and the customers eventually lose out because the businesses close down.
I think you should call them and have a rational chat with them to see if you can come to a compromised agreement whereby you both compliment each other. It may not be possible but at least you'll definitively know where you stand. And who knows, you might raise something they were previously unaware of and in doing so you'll be promoting better awareness and longer-term strategic thinking which will ultimately benefit everyone.
I love that line Steve, " im not a whinger BUT".
How do you fix Stupid? It is so annoying. I spent years building the PSE brand I had over 300,000 invested in the products and for less than 10 bows of sales you kill a brand and kill stores. I hate seeing stores go out of business. It takes so much time and effort to have a business.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale I know the store Steve, have not been there for 6 months, they dont have much competition in that part of state, just 1 thing ,when you go to their website the bow comes up at 1519$, but when i add that bow into my cart the payment is 1999.95$, could be somebody has made an error, anyway keep up the good work.
Just looked on your competitors website, and the price is $1999.95 firm. Pretty sure we were looking at the same website too (Apex?). Maybe they saw your video and had a good hard look at themselves!
They had a store wide sale on when he made this vid, I think
@@thenameiwantedwastaken. Weird. I just had another look at the Apex website. The page that Steven posted has been altered, but on the page that displays all of the bows it shows the sale price. They even jacked up the RRP to $1999.95. If you were to buy from the website right now, you'd be paying 2 grand.
@@gangrenous77
Maybe it was a typo, then?
@@thenameiwantedwastaken Potentially!?
@gangrenous77
I wonder if he listed his "demo bow"
I know some retailers get to buy one bow at a lower cost to use as a demo model
Then he sold it and the next order is full tilt retail
My PSE decree i bought in 2016 is my favourite my 2015 Stinger is good as well never going to sell them prices are insane at the moment
Pse literally crushed this guys heart. You can feel his pain just from watching his videos
Maybe YOu should buy them from him nd then resalle them in Your shop with Your price :P
There are a bunch of dealers across the US that have a similar model. They make their profit off of low margin and high volume of products in other departments, and then run out their competition, only to then reduce the stock they have because they've reduced competition and no longer need to stock products to be competitive.
is it possible that other dealer discounted the Decree because he has a problem dealing with PSE getting product and service ? I owned a PSE Thunderbolt with lightening single cam , nice simple bow .
He put up the price. So he was either told or someone made a mistake.
Is his a Black market bow he’s selling?
Do PSE do retrospective discounts? I've seen dealers in my industry dumping stock mid-cycle to hit a particular turnover with a wholesaler. The individual losses on the tasty new discounted items are less than the discount they expect to achieve on their previous month's order. A race to the bottom is never good for anyone though. I refuse to take the bait. I know my service is better than my competitors and I retain my customers.
You would think in the USA is the cheapest because it’s made there. Here in Canada this bow sells $1599 CAD, what is $1135 USD.
wtf?? is cheaper in Canada than the U.S. it is 1300 U.S.D in here
That camo is badass
Looks amazing.
Ebay is the way.. some good reputable sellers two. Got limbs replaces no questions. Glue let go on a recurve limb after 1500 or more shots in 3 months. They just sent me more..🎉🎉❤
I don't think it's a conspiracy, looking at the website I think they put the discount on the wrong bow. Their page for the PSE Unite has the same prices as your screenshot. Good deal if someone got onto it fast, they probably wouldn't honour it though.
I just paid less than $1300 for my Prime RVX36 in the U.S and it stacks arrows and I get free strings every 2 years, but I was required to buy it in person.
NOP... my mathews V3X-33 is still going strong and fits like a glove :)
Steven, havent you been lowballing the market for the past 20 years?
No - please tell me when. I discount items I cant move like the Obsessions are super cheap now. I had Abbey put a store next to me selling at cost for 6 months till he went out of business. Benson sold Supras at cost price for a year to put a local dealer out of business.
When every I discount an item I offer shops the items cheaper. So shops can always make a profit.
Shops I sell to normally sell at our price.
What's crazy man is a simple fact that I could buy a boat a PSE Supra back in the day cheaper from you than I could hear in the US and then come to find out there's certain archery businesses that here in the US make like six or seven hundred dollars per bow
For 2g, im buying a custom recurve or longbow and a 45/70...
Still got change for a set of arrows and a box or ammo😮😮😮😢😢❤
If you ask me there should be like over here there's a rule against that s*** you can't do that unless the manufacturer says hey you guys can drop the price his front door should be shut
Steve I think that price was an accident by an employee or the website manager. This has happen before to me in the U.S with petco. you usually buy the product go to the store to pick it up. two outcomes happen they honor the sale or explain to you website price was wrong and refound your money. I am just saying this could be another possibiliity. I check on your competitor website and the discount price is gone.
Yes he does it from time to time. Sometimes I wonder if he does it to put pressure on dealers - but then because this bow was new and I had not listed it I was this make no sense unless he is going broke.
@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale He is doing it to get you triggered. I doubt he got more than 5 decrees in a shipment. I have been waiting for weeks for 2 mach 33 and I am in the U.S (order them 7 weeks ago)
Usually from another country, the manufacturer doesn't allow to sell the item.. guitars you can't buy from the us to Canada.. something like that... the orange guy is all about that..💁♂️ that shop is a cocktail..maybe that doesn't apply to Australia..✌️🎯♥️🇨🇦
Trump looks at how much USA buys and sells from a country. With Australia we buy alot more than we sell to the USA so the USA budget with Australia is in surplus. So last time Trump was in all Australian goods are exempt. We had a free trade agreement. But when the USA loose like from china and Germany he is looking to add.
Orange guy good 👍🏼
That's right, I've run into it a lot with music supplies. I'm in the boonies in Canada and I can't buy for example BOSS/Roland products from anywhere outside canada. The sellers "aren't allowed". Had the same with a guitar from the US.
I bought an Omnia and having remorse. I'd buy this if I could...
Damn right if it's 900 I'm buying it
I do like u Steve, and it is interesting for exchange rates and prices.
BUT. A big whinge for just 1 bow in stock on special !!!???
I would understand if there was like 30+ in stock maybe.... But 1. Maybe i missed something about more stock coming.
Think it was a mess up cause the price is not that anymore
At the end of the day...
FUCK GLOBALISM 😾😾😾
Sometimes I think you do these videos for cathartic reasons
I think this is interesting so I knock out a video. I had the day off work putting stuff online. You probably see me thinking as I do a video as I think about the topic. I would have put in orders for more Decrees having seen the bow. But now I have to wait and see what the other guy does.
Play Steven my dear brother listen to what you're saying the cost to set up a new business is not there okay and if it's not there guess what there ain't going to be no other business there either before you know it they're all going to be shut down so bro you might want to consider your options I mean you said it yourself you got that building that's worth a million that right there could get you set up here I would say pretty close to it anyway but then that cuts you off from I guess not really because you would be like one of the only ones us companies I think it's a good thing but that's going to put a lot of people under at the same time if they can't afford to get their own products manufactured here in the US because the US manufacturing is so expensive I think they need to start a big round up of money tax money whatever to give some of these businesses to fail to bring their prices down so they can manufacture for people and then new business can open up then people can start selling stuff
Steven, i don't think bashing other folks is good business, just my 2c
I understand your frustration, as I'm a business owner also , not archery , Roofing , an trust me I get it.
I could tell you about the number of stores this has put people out of business. I dont think it is bashing. What I said is I cant stock a product which people are selling at below cost. So I cant order anymore. In the USA it is not allowed for people to discount new items.
I was just saying to myself, hes broke and needs money, So your saying I can buy the bow from you for 300 less?
not me the other store. Im not selling a new bow at below cost. I sell old models which I cant move at below cost.
This is not a good look for you Steven , no sense in talking down to folks
You are talking about the late Lyn Eagles there at the end re selling Mathews, she closed the business down over 5 yrs ago.... get over it Steve.
What if it's this b******* what if we don't have the bow at all and he's just trying to get people to his website or it's a sample bow and he's trying to sell it off
Why so much more money
Just buy it from him and sell it.
The guy is liquidating stock to have a quick punt on bitcoin
Another whining video with no basis in facts. At least this guy is consistent.
Is this clown selling the Mach 33 at these prices?
No he is high on that bow but has none in stock.