DualSense Edge Teardown - Inside Sony's first Pro Controller
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2023
- Launch day for Sony's first Pro Controller, and i've disassembled it to see what tech and engineering went into such an expensive controller. It's pretty impressive, with some impressive engineering and solid parts.
I'm particularly curious about the swapable analog sticks. Is this the end of broken controllers from stick drift?
What swapable parts will Sony and 3rd parties come out with?
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hello friend I wanted to ask you a question in your opinion that I have disassembled everything, will there be a possibility in the future to add 2 more rear buttons? can i become 4 scoops? Thanks in advance
@@luigiesposito2481 Did you watch the video? There's literally no real-estate for them to go. The adaptive triggers take up what space would be needed to include them. And because of the back paddles there's an even more pathetic battery in there.
where can i found the info about gulikit plans on this sticks
@@TheSnowisnow their twitter
@@luigiesposito2481 potentially, if the existing back buttons are removed, and replaced with 4 smaller mechanical buttons.
The engineering in these is absolutely insane
As a person that loves ripping things apart to see how they work. I THOROUGHLY enjoyed this video and appreciate you
After watching this tear down and seeing how much Sony redesigned and added so much more tech and functionality to the already amazing DS, I'm definitely getting one!
Oh, ya ? Do you even know how much that cost to manifact ? Don't forget, tho !! Sony add some Scripts and some Plastic Shit !! I'm a PS Fan and And I Repair consoles, but this pad should max Cost 80 Euro in the market.
And honestly, PlayStation down slowly to the Ring of Death (greed).
By the way !! Did you know that Sony pay Capcom a lot of money to refuse the Idea of letting Xbox adding Resident Evil Games to Gamepass ?
Otherwise, we could play all new Capcom Games inc (SF6) on Game pass, beside the Problem of (Activation Studio) that running very far.
I mean Comeon dude !! a new PS5 game cost 79 Euro !! I guess Sony use fans to build an empire, like making a new console that runs mostly Remake Games.
go Get a Xbox Series S with Elite 2 and Game pass ! (400 Euro) and tell me then who need to be the king in this Days.
@@capobreakonebreak5604 You’re delusional
@@fainted8230 In some ways he is but he's right in the new edge controller is a bit crap, for the price tag you might as well have gotten a scuf and had a better end user experience. If this controller was a game changer I would have considered it because the ps controllers overclock great on pc, it's more of the same with a huge price tag slapped on top, I own a gulikit kingkong 2 and tbh, although in some ways it's inferior to even a normal xbox controller, it didn't cost me £200 for what is basically an incremental upgrade, hell, I thing the elite 2 core is over priced at £110 I think really £90 is acceptable because they don't add that much to a normal controller to charge twice as much, can point to internal battery and new shell but you had to make a shell anyway because you changed the design, the sticks cost an end user £5 each and some time to replace them, the hot swap design here just makes everything else harder to get to and I really don't like the look of the trigger stops.
Was hopeful for this controller but it's going to show it's problems in the not too far off future probably.
@@thespectator2976 The edge controller is in the same price range as other pro controllers
@@fainted8230 I dont know where you find your prices, but Edge controller is over double the price of normal pro controller.
Just happen to bump into your channel.
I'm mechanically minded and therefore a sucker in learning how things work and so used to tear down machines and gadgets at home with minimal tools haha.
But seeing your tear downs is entertaining and educational.
Got yourself a sub!👍
I second that.
@@murph1414Nice one m8!👍
Although I think being around my old man(he was a mechanic) as a kid kind of piqued my interest seeing him disaasemble and reassemble mechanical parts haha. Then again, men are more interested in things anyways.
same my mind want to know how it works and how to put it back together so ill be coming back to this vid for reference in the future
I was just working on a dualsense yesterday and daaaaamn this thing is completely different. I don't see ANY of the same parts as the standard controller so they really went out of their way to redesign it. This did more to convince me it's worth $200 than any marketing has TBH.
Yeah it's a lot more impressive when you see the engineering that went into it
Still, too much money for what you get...
Awesome video! This thing is more complicated than I thought. No wonder it felt heavier in my hands!
Not complicated... if you know things about them... it's cheap af
Great video, enjoy watching your teardowns. Even fixed an old PS4 controller because of your videos. Thanks for these.
That was amazing! It’s no way I could’ve put that back together. Maybe took it apart! Genius!
I haven't even watched the video yet but man I had to say I how much I appreciate that fact you made this video thank you 💚
Wow so much more complex then a phone’s teardown 😮
Absolutely loved it 👍🏼👍🏼
That's what many moving parts will do, they make devices way more complicated just because of that. Smartphones only have the vibration engine, that's literally it.
@@juancarlos131291 and hinges, pop out cameras, etc on some
It's a shame they packed the controller so well, but had to resort to using a smaller battery.
@@plasmaoctopus1728 When you cram so much tech + moving parts in such a confined and odd shape, something's gotta give.
Hopefully, China will come up with a snap-on battery compartment for Eneloop batteries.
You satisfied the inner child in me who always loved to tear things apart screw by tiny screw and then putting it all back together. Dope ending too where everything was put back together too! 😌 satisfaction.
Bro you're a LEGEND.
So literally, battery capacity was sacrificed for the back buttons to keep the controller on the same form factor
Pretty much
@@RestoreTechnique do you think we will see a better battery capacity wise with that size? Is there already one?
@@p1nn1 not that I know of. I think that 3rd party accessory manufacturers (and maybe sony) are going to make battery packs which utilise the usb port locking mechanism. So you could buy a small 1000-5000mAh extra battery pack that locks onto the top of the controller.
It's actually genius having that usb locking mechanism, because people who don't care about weight can add the extra battery on the top if they want.
@@RestoreTechnique I disagree with 1st or even 3rd party making external batteries for the DualSense Edge. Just plug the controller in. It has a 10 foot USB-C cable in the box. It's pointless to make and creates more e-waste.
@@Mr_Battlefield its hard for big tech company take the measurment of e waste for their product , unless it is good for their portfolio. The accesories like the external battery would be profitable, so why not? They sell product for gaining profit
Purposely made it so difficult to self fix a minor problem in this controller.
I'm just going to buy the analog replacement mechanism and add those classic domed sticks on my current Dualsense.
such a shame an expensive controller doesn't come with proper hall effect analog sticks
I really hope GuliKit knocks it out of the park with Hall Effect sensors! That was one of my pipe dreams when they announced replacement analog modules. Nice tear down
Probably they will still use hall effect
Thanks mate
I would really like to get those Hall sensors on my Dualsense.
Awesome teardown first one I've fully watched. I really didn't think there would be so much to it! I've taken endless Dualsense controllers apart as I do lots of stuff for eXtremerate, they said they've got stuff in the pipeline for this controller like digital triggers and god knows what else
I've used your videos before to install digital triggers and back buttons on a few of my PS5 controllers. I reached out on one of ExtremeRate's videos and didn't get a response on this topic so I am glad to hear they are working on digital triggers. Digital triggers are much better feeling for FPS games than the adjustable trigger stops that Sony went with on the Edge. I hope they are working on shell replacements too since I don't like the look of a white controller. I hope to pick up an Edge controller this summer so I hope they have at least the digital triggers out by then.
@DHARMA They're a bit of a hit and miss for getting a reply 😄 I sometimes pop on their channel and see if I can help but most people just come on my channel and ask for advice.
Yeah hopefully anytime soon they drop the DT, I know they said they've been working on stuff for the Edge, the lady who sends me the stuff to remove just sent the Carbon plates for the PS5 but unfortunately you can only buy them in certain country's which sucks
Crazy how complicated sony construct the controller.
Thanks for the Video, very satisfying to watch.
No worries mate 👍
For anyone else trying to remove the lower rumble cylinders: they are stuck onto the plastic housing with a small piece of sticky tape. Warm up the plastic and pry the cylinders out, releasing them from the tape.
thanks dude, did u remove any other things from it to reduce weight?
Good to know the Thumbstick modules can be opened and cleaned or even replaced like standard controllers :)
Yes true, just keep some super glue on hand
Tear down vids are so educational and entertaining, I must say. 😊
What an engineering feat! To be able to design and fit all that tech in the same space as a regular DS controller. Very imrpessive. Thanks for sharing
Awesome pro controller! + teardown & rebuild
Superb teardown! So many parts and complexity. No wonder this thing is 250 EUR
You guys are getting ripped off, bad. It's only $199 here, $215 after taxes.
@@Lateralas fear price if you compare it to other pro controllers but then again, everything is overprice.
Hahaha in my country it cost 300 us puk
It's not even worth 100$ with that shitty battery and analog based on potentiometers.
@@patrickoae8697 The battery is crap yeah.
I wanted to see a teardown and this video was perfect!
Oddly satisfying.
Is it weird I have just as much fun repairing my own controller when it drifts as when I am playing a game?
😄 cool!
amazing a lot of technology inside the controller
I was ganna say "I would love to see you building the controller back again" But you already did it!
lol
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Finally a teardown video
I’ve been waiting for a teardown for ages 😩 thanks
It just launch dude
No worries mate
Very nice teardown ... Many thanks for sharing the footage
Cheers mate 😄
Fantastic video great work 🎮❤️🔥
I just ordered a PS5 and a DS Edge from PS Direct last night. I'm honestly WAY more excited for the controller than I am the console. I wanted to wait until BB got their stock of controllers so that I get the totaltech protection for it, but after watching this vid and seeing how easy it will be to swap out stick modules I'm glad I made the order.
I plan on using it more for PC gaming than anything else. DSX looks to be a promising steam app that ought to support the Edge for full mapping in the very near future. I imagine that Steam itself will support it soon as well (but likely won't get too much extra functionality from it). I'm excited to see what we can do with this controller once reWASD supports it.
Thank you for your teardown video.
- It takes some courage to open one of these 🥶🥶.
People need to remember These are competition controllers, they will be used wired 90% of the time due to lower latency vs bluetooth so battery size doesn't matter.
If you are clutching your pearls at the smaller battery, is ok, this controller isn't aimed at you.
awesome teardown video
Awesome vid gave me anxiety but ur a pro! ❤
This video is awesome wish it was longer hahah
Amazing ! Can't wait for these 3rd party modules 🤯
I'm so excited to see what they come out as for the analog sticks, and the caps for them as well. The ones included are nice, but 3rd parties are going to go crazy with different designs, colors and textures!
Strike packs gonna be all over this controller prolly already is an are lmao 🤣 😂 🙃
Never going too happen 👍
holy shit, look at all those details and stuff inside it.
Now I understand, why it's that expensive.
Awesome video! Enjoyed watching it a lot. I really like that they kept the form factor the same. I personally use a cable connection 80% of the time anyway.
Relaxing and entertaining to watch!
Greeeeeaaat video!! 👍🏻👍🏻 I plan to get those electromagnetic sticks when they come out.
I wish I had the skill and patience, I’m glad I purchased the insurance, geese! Awesome vid!
Excellent video!
I love it . Thank you so much
Damn, that was intense for a controller lol. Literally broke down into tiny pieces, even the shell lol
Cool video
Thanks mate 😊
click-click-click as it all goes back together, beautiful ASMR
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Good vid, I got mine this morning, it's 🔥🔥🔥
Nice 👌
>standard potentiometer based analog stick
sony PLEASE this is a MULTI HUNDRED DOLLAR CONTROLLER
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thank you for this great teardown video. no music, no annoying commentation. a great watch and very informative!
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So satisfying!
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At this point and especially this price range, I don't see why sony isn't implementing hall effect analog sticks. Great teardown, however, nice job.
One obvious reason. To make sure you always need to replace something, which in turn will make them money.
Oddly satisfying video to watch with all the clicking and screwing sounds.
Good to hear 😄
I got mine this week and so far I really enjoy it. My 2 favorite perks of this are the rear triggers and that you can replace the sticks in the matter of minutes, which only cost $19.99 direct from Sony. I'm on my second controller dule sense controller and needed a new one due to stick drift. I've had my PS5 since Xmas of 21. 2 controllers in a year at $70 each, it will pay for itself. So if you need justification on buying one, there is your reason.
Nice 👌
Lucky only 2 controller I've gone through 6 in 10 months and paid around 320 total have 9 controllers total.. Including now an dualsense edge cause 20 bucks a pop for a easily swapable part with the potential to swap in some hall effects sticks down the road is appealing to me
This video helped me make the wobble paddle go away. Really easy to get the back off that controller 👍
13:22 I absolutely love how modular Sony made this part!
The potentiometer sticks are such a slap in the face from Sony. Thank God Gulikit are planning to make hall effects for it.
I agree, most people will probably disagree with me, but I refuse to buy a more expensive controller until Sony themselves replace the sticks with quality ones, major slap in the face.
good stuff man 🎉🤘💪🙏
I just realize that Gulikit is probably going to sell just the internals and not the entire assembly, still doesn't seem too bad to get it open.
Not sure, I was thinking GuliKit would make a replacement module, the whole module. But idk what they have planned 🤔
@@RestoreTechnique The first thing I thought about when they announced the user replacable modules are that thrid party options will flourish. Even though they didn't use hall effect as standard, this is still better than every other controller that uses potentiometer with no user replacability.
@@RestoreTechnique quoting Ryan George: That would make upgrades “super easy, barely an inconvenience”.
@@fjjwfp7819 very true
My guess is that extremeRate is frantically doing the same thing and scanning parts so they can make custom mods for it. I'm sure they'll figure out a way to add two more back buttons or paddles for those that want them. I'm fine with two. But I can't wait to customize the shell's colors and get some grippy texture on it.
It will be interesting to see what mods they come up with. I use their mouse click digital triggers kits in my DualSense controllers, wasn't a fan of extremeRate's back paddle design with the conversion kit they sell. Personally, I wish the DualSense Edge had mouse click hair triggers with the short pull setting rather than just being a shorter trigger stop setting. Trigger stops just aren't as responsive and satisfying, so I will be holding back on this getting an Edge controller at this price point.
@@dharma9404 thinking about getting extreme rate back paddle mod, what did you not like about the it?
Hopefully
This does habe new gripping textures when first hold it like holding gold ya will love it
@DHARMA it does basically have digital ones of watch.other vids on the ps5edge controller reviews will see there new fully customizable features for this issue it's hold function button with settings button an can adjust where it engages at from just light touch all way to full pull an all kinds other stuff with all 4 top triggers buttons n sticks both am yea seen it om review video on it n sure others show it top cause hiw ya get same if nit hundreds of tenth fast triggers
Damnn... if I were to open this up. It will never go back together... 😂😂
Great video
I just hope they worked on the springs used on the adaptive triggers
So worth the money if you value the amount of work in designing that, quality, workmanship needed to assemble.
great video
Great teardown, but you left me thinking about hal sensing joystick for that controller, that'd be cool
Thanks 😄
😅 opening up my regular dualsense was tough enough, I'm gonna pass on opening up this one myself
Definitely don't wanna ruin a $200 controller lol
It be great if you did photogrammetry on all the parts. Good video.
What are you wanting to do with the data?
Imagine he gave the controller away all torn apart with the full footage of the disassembly.
He has a lot of patience to disarm and assemble that remote 🎮👍🏻
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Why I’m subbed to this channel
Removable sticks!wonderful
Easy to fix and replace ...I hate drifting
I had an edge for about a year now and never knew about the release switch on the back.
The. Again I never needed to replace the sticks.
Thank you!
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I love this controller worth every penny!!
If it had no potentiometer analog and better battery yes, right now it it is not the case. I will buy one when I can fit a gullikit hall effect magnet analog.
I love the Nacon revolution pro, cannot go back to ps controller for playstation
Same got mine this morning 🔥🔥
So I have one last concern and question before I plunk down the $200 for this controller.
Sony recently revised the trigger springs,
in the galactic pink/blue/purple controllers.
They are thicker and stiffer springs.
The original white/black/red controllers have the thinner springs.
My question is is what springs does the edge have?
Watch my latest video where I disassemble the adaptive trigger. Near the end of the video I show the springs 😀👍
Is there any third party alternatives for a battery upgrade anyone can suggest? I know there are various alternatives for the standard dualsense I just don't know if they would fit given the different size of the battery.
Great i cant wait to add a couple of extra buttons on this thing
Good luck. Let us know how that goes lol.
No replaceable USB C port, well the base DS5 has the same design, dunno why they changed that from the DS4 with its seperate charging board.
Its cool that you can change the stick wo soldering, but cheap drifting sticks in a 200+ Bucks Controller is weak ngl.
Great teardown, you disassemble it fast and catch every step, nice work!
Yea great video not taking that thing apart never get it back together again lol.
Well done.
Thanks
Wish they would have put mouse clicky buttons on the face buttons hope extremerate makes them soon
very nice 👍
This video makes the $200 price tag look reasonable. Looks very well built. Except the smaller battery, but doesn't look like anything bigger would fit.
Yea the components seem reinforced where they should be. Seems serviceable too, just some extra bits. I hate how expensive the stick modules are with shipping, they should be 10-15 shipped, but I'm guessing Sony is recouping some cost by charging more for them
Like the Nacon before it, it's ideally used wired to combat any lag.
Well, had to pause the video because my Edge arrived while I was watching. So, I went to grab it and set it up so I can finally get back to playing CoD tonight since the right thumbstick in my regular Dualsense crapped out on me a few weeks ago. FYI, it already has a tiny amount of drift in both sticks out of the box so I had to adjust the dead zones slightly. Still worth it since I can swap them out and because of the amazing controller options for it on the system. I'm hopeful but worried that Gulikit won't be able to make Hall effect replacements for this because 1) that's a tiny PCB and 2) I see that there are a couple of chips on it that may be proprietary to Sony. Let's hope they can find a way to get the Edge and PS5 to recognize their replacement. BTW, I think I'm going to prefer the half-dome back buttons since I can rest my fingers right below them and there's less chance of an accidental pull.
Came here to see how the trigger stops work and back button placement, thinking about picking one of these up when a mod to add 2 more back buttons comes out or even better if they can figure out how to add trigger stops to the ds5.
To each their own but in my personal opinion two back buttons are more than enough.
Four is cramped overkill.
If it was really that important in the engineer's would have made it in the original design.
when you said clip city I'm like for real
The electronics look less complicated and messy than the duelsense, but the shell and internal framework look more complicated
Man I feel sorry for the assembly workers
Very expensive but replaceable stick units make me tempted to buy one.
Sony could even release a different stick unit design later i.e. not use standard potentiometers if something better comes along.
They have no reason to use Hall Effects or Rotarys.
Props to Sony for making a pro controller that lets you change sticks if they ever start to drift the sticks will probably be priced at an insane cost, but hey its a step in the right direction
This video could of been 3 hours long and I would of watched the whole thing. Now I know that the 3500mAh batteries I have for my other controllers wont fit in this I wont bother to open it up. Not until there's a battery that fits. Thank you for the info.
5:28 definitely velociraptors lol
Yes! ☺️
wonder if we'll get plug in hall sensored joysticks?
One of my grips is loose. Should I try to remove that back piece and tighten the screws from the other side?
Good video. Thank you! As I see Sony didn’t change the patentiometer)) Hello drifting 😅
Lifesaver
This controller looks light a nightmare to put back together
i hope in the future sony makes hall effect thumb stick available for the edge