So, what do you think? Let me know in the comments below! OPEN this comment for answers to some frequently asked questions (FAQs)! + Also, don't forget to check out Ekster as it's running a 35% off Christmas sale with free Gift bags currently! shop.ekster.com/carson-miller 1. Why would you not get the Fly More Coverage on a drone this expensive? Are you crazy? --Crazy, maybe a little. As to why I didn't get the coverage was because I naively made the assumption that this drone would be fine with all of its additional avoidance systems it has to offer compared to everything else I've flown before. With 6 years of drone piloting experience and no major crashes, I just saw the $399 price tag for 2 years of coverage and figured eh, I'm fine with saving the money. Wrong. Don't do that. Get the coverage yourself! Save the money in the long term. 2. Will you make a video talking about your repair experience with DJI? --- Yes, I plan to! Subscribe for that! Could be a while though until that is released with it being the holidays & me not having Fly More express coverage. 3. The Mavic 3 is NOT a SkyDio 2, you know that right? --- Yup, as you can see in the video, I gained too much optimism in the APAS 5.0 system DJI has to offer. Always remain pessimistic about autonomous systems!
Have you asked DJI if they will replace this drone due to the sensors failing to do their job? I personally don't trust any drone around wires or trees without leaves. Not even the Skydio 2.
Gutted for you Carson - Hopefully you get a reasonable price on your repair - I genuinely think DJI will repair your Mavic 3 just at a higher premium due to no Refresh - Thanks for your Great content and good Luck 🤞
I’m amazed by this drone’s image quality and battery life. I’m so sorry it crashed… Don’t give up on it just yet. Looking forward to it getting repaired so we can see and enjoy more content. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Sorry about the mishap. But hey, using your tracking feature around trees with thin branches😮. Yep, what were you thinking. Doesn’t matter if it’s an M3 or Skydio2, thin branches and thin power lines can easily do them in. Never let my Skydio2 get near thin branches, and never had an issue with it avoiding larger objects. I also always have State Farm insurance in place (and I’ve never had to use it so far). Good luck with the repair!
Sorry to hear you crashed (Or that DJI crashed) your new M3. Also, I laughed 😅 when i saw that you actually graphed out your confidence for us. I can tell you poured your heart and soul into this drone and I felt genuinely bad when it crashed and you were talking about it on the bench. Hopefully you've got this resolved already at this point in time. And I don't use the DJI care refresh myself..I have all of my drones ( except all my FPV diy builds) insured by state farm on my personal belongings insurance for camera equipment. I have my MA2 and my Autel Evo 2 fully insured and pay about 60.00 per year for the coverage. Anything goes wrong to the point it costs around what the drone costs, I can turn it in and get the full price of the drone cut in a check sent. After you use that once though, I believe you can't insure drones anymore but it's up to their "discretion". The man told me if I don't turn in more than one per year they might keep letting me insure the drones or they can opt to say no after you turn in 1 incident. Whichever..I love the Fully Autonomous Autel Evo 2 pro. I have never had any issues even near scraggly trees hard to see by camera sensors. I've had a tiny scuff with a power line one time with it but it was after I took over controls when it stopped autonomous flight right in close proximity to about 8 powerlines going in different directions while recordingmy 7 yo son on his electric dirtbike. I tapped an insulated powerline with a tip of my Autel Evo2 prop Thank God. I was a football fieldaway when it occurred and tried to recover myself when I tapped it though. Great video editing 👌 and sound editing Carson. Good job on your review bud!
I don’t trust the obstacle avoidance at all. My DJI Air 2s has crashed into trees three times when tracking, thankfully with no damage apart from broken props. Now I never use the tracking unless in open space with no obstacles
Yeah, which feels like it defeats the purpose, right? It's a shame the obstacle avoidance isn't better than it is in DJI drones, because if they could improve their game there they would most definitely have a one up over brands like SkyDio
I’m so sorry to see this happened to you, 😢 technically you didn’t crash the drone it crashed itself. I agree with you on all points, I bought it and ended up selling my Mavic 2 Pro and I’m wondering if I’m going to eventually end up regretting it. I hope DJI either replaces it or you get a reasonable price for repair. Wishing you all the best Carson.
Thank you Fly Wright! I don't think you'll regret it. Just fly safe and don't trust the APAS 5 systems as much as I did in that moment! The drone overall besides the crash really impressed me. Worth every penny IMO if you're someone who wants one of the best looking camera sensors in the sky
@@carsonmtech you did not crash that, i think DJI should send you a replacement as they can see that it crashed, and it wasn't your fault. I've seen a few of these crashing now, hope they send you a new one.
@@live2walk I just don’t think he did he had obstacle ovidence on so how did it crash? Plus he was even flying it, also you could rely on sensors because it’s the like newest most avandced consumer drone.
I was looking so carefull this awesome video until the point that the drone crashed..wow..i was speechless..so much money for this drone to be crashed so easily..I am so sorry for your loss my friend!Good lucj repairing it!!
Me: "Im so dead. I really should get to bed soon. I have to be up early." TH-cam: *Active Track 5 crashed my dji mavic 3!* Me: "Shit here we go again."
Hi Carson, I'm sorry about the crash. DJI should improve the quality of sensors on thin objects such as tree branches and power lines, so that things like this can be prevented in the future.
My favorite quote of yours “what was i thinking trusting APAS”. Yup! Me too. This video could have easily been me. I also crashed my M3 with $350 in repairs followed by being gone nearly a month. There is a big design problem here: You HAVE TO TRUST ASAP because of advanced RTH. Just like you i hit some whispy leafless tree branches. Fine i can be smart enough to never use active track in a situation where APAS is required, but with the new ARTH capability its going to take some crazy path that could easily hit those same trees. So i guess RTH is no more either. IDK, I’ve lost a ton of confidence right now. Is it a firmware issue? Maybe? I’ve seen Air2S videos with active track do AMAZINGLY well and yet you and i hit tress in minutes causing $100s in damages. Let’s hope it gets better. At least for now I have zero intention of running any of the autonomous modes for quite some time. I just don’t have $3K to keep throwing around! Sorry for the trouble you had.
Thanks for the honest and concise review and sorry for your "loss". I guess those thin branches without leaves are always a problem. Could you please tell us how much the repair for that damage was as soon as you know it? That would be very interesting.
Ok fine APAS can’t see whispy tree branches. How the heck can the new ARTH work then. I guess that can’t’ be trusted either. Ohh i guess you can fly places without trees, sad i live in Sacramento which is coined the “City of Trees”.
I really hope DJI replace your drone free of charge. Not only have you promoted their drones in the past and no doubt helped sell a load much like myself, but this was NOT your fault, and it should NOT be something that you have to pay for, even if you did have DJI Refresh. This is DJI's fault, and they should step up, the rushed update release for Christmas sales should not be your problem. I am with you on the complaints, such cheap ass moves by a company I've heavily invested in.
Great unboxing and review of the new Mavic 3 drone. But so sorry about your crash during the Active test. Most of the crashes I have seen involving the Mavic 3 have been crashes into bare trees. I hope you able to get it repaired.
I dare say the problem is you expect the drones to avoid thin branches , winter, no leaves .... yep .... too skinny for the sensors to detect ... whatever model you have.
Wow its amazing how many crashes the Mavic 3 is having on all these different channels. Gutted for you hopefully Dji sort it for you and its not too costly. Great review too. Will hopefully watch the end part in the morning.
Hey Carson, Feel better.. Also you're not alone. I once lost a Phantom 4 Pro! Hope DJI can do something for you.. The good thing is you're a smart young man and will figure how to bounce back!
🌞Well again sorry for your loss but shows some things can go wrong Quickly even when u r a VERY EXPERIENCED flyer. U still as u said got the video done and it looked GREAT. Have a BLESSED HOLIDAY. Fly safe.
You can get the coverage after repair. It looks bad, but it's very repairable. I had a busted strut when my Air2S hit a tree. And yes, it doesn't see thin branches and wires. Obstacle avoidance is good, but not 100%.
Sorry for your crash. I always get the flymore (extra batteries and a better charger) and dji refresh with all my DJI drones and i have never had to use it but I get it for a just in case.
Yeah, I will for sure going forward! With 6 years of drone piloting experience, I didn't feel there was a need in the $399 2-year coverage, but clearly there is!
Your review is pretty good. You should send it to DJI so they can see what you were doing. Hopefully they will repair it or just replace it with a new one. Don't give up bro.
The Mavic 3's telephoto sensor surely pulls off the "Vaseline-covered lens" aesthetic, making the Mavic 2 Pro's 4K HQ mode video look sharp. 😄 Maybe it'll catch on in the future and will be coveted. EDIT: It's not my drone, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not feeling second-hand sadness and anxiety at your Mavic 3's demise. I'm surprised it broke so much for not hitting a very hard surface. My M2P auto-landed unexpectedly into a tree, flipping over, hitting a concrete roof and falling from about 20 feet. It only broke a single prop blade and dinged the side of the camera gimbal and a small area of the chin fairing.
Lol, for sure! Also, don’t sweat it! My mistake for sure for trusting the autonomous system too much, I’m very hopeful that DJI will replace the drone as I’m sure it’s not a complete loss, but I wouldn’t wanna risk the crash affecting things in the future. As far as your incident, that is quite the crash there! That’s incredible it didn’t break more. I can’t believe either how much the Mavic 3 broke apart, even with the leaf covered ground absorbing some of the fall. My guess is the majority of the damage occurred within the tree, as it was pretty violent in the tree before the motors shut off.
man … what a disappointment, DJI still hasn't overcome obstacle technology … it's a huge loss for those who trusted … skidio is still ahead in this regard …. big hug my friend, always following the channel
I would hope that DJI would at least partially cover the cost of this repair as it was flying on its autonomous mode, as for the telephoto lens, it is not designed for actually taking photos regularly, its usage is more geared for things like search and rescue and exploring, possibly other uses like surveying buildings and objects and so forth, it is not meant as an actual daily driver, i agree with the stock controller kinda sucking for such a premium drone, as well as not using the go4 app, it was so much more versatile and pro suited especially when paired with the old controllers, they should have redesigned the old controllers to be more playstation like and then put the phone holder and antennas at the top, a cross between the old and new stock controllers
Thanks for sharing, great video but what's the latest? Any updates on your drone meaning repairs and how much $$? You should make another video follow up, a lot of viewers would know what to look for if they crash their Drones imo. Thnx
Those night shots are so amazing. Awesome video and so sorry about your M3. It even hurt me when you said you didn’t have the care refresh. I’ve seen so many M3 crash videos it’s unreal. Hope you get it repaired soon and it doesn’t cost you another $2200.
I remember when I did exactly the same thing with my Mavic 2 zoom when it came out. But at least it managed to save itself somehow and continue flying, I just had to change 2 props
It says right in the user manual that the drones visions system shouldn't be used in areas where there are no texture patterns that can be detected, like small tree branches. 🤷♂️
Thanks Rocco! I sure hope so too. After opening a repair ticket today, it sounds like if they deem it was indeed from Active Track 5 (which, it was, but they have to analyze the data themselves), then they may go ahead and outright replace it without a cost more than shipping potentially!
@@carsonmtech wow! If that's so, then that is great. DJI's customer service is actually what made me switch to Autel... It's good to see that perhaps they are maybe improving on that end. I hope all turns out well for you!
Everybody knows that small trees can be a Problem for the Sensors. This has never changed. Why everybody think that with Active Track 5.0 the Sensors detect also small trees? They never told you that! Active Track 5.0 has 360 degree view at the M3 and it give you a smarter Follow mode etc. This is your fault... not DJI With the M2 or the Air2S everybody knows: don't fly with Follow mode where you have small trees / branches.... why everybody think that this has changed with the M3? The Sensors has the same sensibility.
Even the skydio 2 crashes in those trees… but people lose their mind for nothing. In the teaser, the drone avoid trunks, not branches… it’s not the same 🤷🏻
great review and sorry for the crash. that hurt to watch. I really appreciate what you said about the batteries. I always like to have a fresh charge as I change out. this is a huge turn off for me
Yeah, like the fact I had to spend and additional $80 on a charging dock just so I can charge Mavic 3 batteries separately from the drone is pretty annoying
Well, I have been testing the latest firmware with my Mavic 3 and the RC Pro. It's even more buggy with the RC Pro. There are problems which cause the DJI Fly to think that the Mavic 3 has disconnected when it hasn't. In the previous iteration of the firmware and software, it would just hang there with the video greyed out and the link light showing green. Now, RC Pro cuts off transmission which forces the Mavic 3 to return home. This signal loss bug appears to happen when the amount of data being processed is at a peak level like doing a screen capture while using Active Track 5 when airsense begins chirping out warnings about an aircraft entering your area. Also, I noticed that the Mavic 3 flies more erratically during a screen capture using Active Track 5.0 than not. If it's fully autonomous, it really shouldn't have an effect on flight behavior, so I am at a loss to explain it. Unless of course, the RC Pro starts bombarding the Mavic 3 with incomplete signal packets which would explain all the signal errors that show up in the logs during screen capture. And, it appears that DJI Fly has a memory leak. While this release seems to be more buggy than average for one of DJI's firmware releases, it is not atypical for the early releases of new hardware to be buggy. It's the price you pay for being an early adopter. That being said, I wouldn't take an immature system out of the box and put it in a difficult situation like you did until I was confident that it could be relied on. While APAS 5.0 is good, I am not sure I would trust it to avoid defoliated branches in the treetops while running something else that might be taxing its processing power. There are other videos of Mavic 3 crashes and near misses which proceed yours that show that APAS 5 isn't up to avoiding twigs. After looking closely at your video, I can see that the sensors are picking up the branches, but I can't see that the drone is making any meaningful effort to avoid them like it was with the tree trunks. So, this could have been another information overload situation in which the drone decided to let inertia and gravity take its course. You do have my sympathies though. Crashing is tough, but at least only wallets, pride, and trees were hurt.
I like your video but I certainly disagree with your perspective on the utility of the secondary camera. It is an extra, secondary camera with optical zoom, what is wrong with that?
The 4/3 sensor stands on it's own, most would buy the drone just for that sensor in the same way that people went to the M2Pro for the 1" Hasselblad, the 2nd camera was meant to give the drone some extra utility and was never marketed as anything more than an exploring tool.
my current daily flyer is the Air2s & I carry a mini 2 as a "b" drone. While I had a lust for the "new, new" it is more of a want than a need at this given time
I just bought a Mavic 3 as my first drone, I am terrified it to fly it in the winter because of branches. Also apparently the gimbal on these dies on the lightest crash because of how heavy the camera is. I am thinking of only using this for open area or high elevation shots, and using something cheaper for active track around trees. That being said, I am sorry for your loss man :( I hope they repair it. Try to file a claim with your credit card, AMEX has purchase protection for 90 days, other card have similar programs for accidental damage.
Or just fly the drone yourself! 10's of thousands of the Mavic 3's have been sold, less than 10 crashes documented on youtube by mostly reviewers pushing the drone beyond its limits, do you spot the problem?
Lol I definitely meant to say “skateboard” but because I had been riding my Exway longboard earlier in the day, that was on my mind and I didn’t bother to correct it before uploading as most people wouldn’t care hahah
Buy a skydiol 2 drone on sale The DJI line of drones is not made for trees if it was it would be part of the warranty. The DJI drone is for an open field or the desert
"Active Track crashed my drone!" *flies around trees when it's been noted the side sensors will not avoid trees and other obstacles* Sucks you crashed it, but sometimes you have to use common sense while flying. Good luck with your repair.
Enjoyed that unboxing until.. oops! If this would make you feel better though, my experience with DJI Care Refresh was notably positive and I got a replacement for a Mini 2 I crashed.
Don't trust the onboard obstacle avoidance 100 percent of the time on any drone. No drone can be fully trusted, even the king of self flying SkyDio has its limitations. Always be in control and you'll less likely to crash.
I am not getting the Mavic 3 but if I were to, I would wait around 6 months for DJI to get all of there things together and they buy it, also it might be a bit cheaper idk like $5 cheaper but yea.
Yeah, usually it's best not to purchase a tech product before it is proven to have most of the bugs ironed out! Many people are crashing this drone, so I shoulda been more careful
@@carsonmtech NO, Many people are not crashing this drone, you and a handful of vocal youtubers who for the purpose of review and subscribers, have put the drone in bad situations. 10's of thousands of M3 owners have not crashed their drone. This drone seems to be the clickbait king. I don't blame you for trying to get a free repair by posting this video, but lets call it what it is!
I mean yes, but my point was that older DJI drones technically had a better charging solution since you didn't have to buy a higher up model or an extra charging hub in order to charge extra batteries at the same time as flying the drone!
Hi friend, sorry for your lost. Many people say that the active track is not good yet. I think it should have detected the branches because it was pretty dense.
Yeah, definitely pretty dense, but I've now seen a number of videos where the Mavic 3 didn't detect branches in other circumstances as well...you live ya learn I guess
If it wasn't for a commercial shoot with insurance... I do NEVER DO THIS!! Agreed.... spending this much cash on any drone without "FLY MORE" coverage is very foolish. I'm staying with my AIR 2s until the next generation :) Looks like a shitting controller, they just want to force you to spend another $1000.00 to upgrade to the premium controller. I really liked the old controller as well, the only down side to me was battery life.
DJI has no strong competitors in this market, and by making a sales strategy, it saves many features for the drones it will release in the future. If no one buys the Mavic3, they will release mavic3s with more features . then we can consider buying a drone that is worth the money.
I will say now that they released the firmware update that included many of the features missing from launch, it is quite an amazing drone. Worth it for $2200 if you only fly a drone here and there? Probably not. But, if you're someone who needs a really fantastic primary sensor on a drone, the DJI Mavic 3 has got you!
Mavic 3 is the drone to skip. I put my Air 2S in active track and walked through heavy woods and tons of small limbs and vine’s and ran to try to lose it and it didn’t crash. As a matter of fact I bought the Air 2S as soon as it came out and I still have never crashed it and I push its limits.
@@kevinryder5246 the reason the Air 2S is not crashing during Active Track is because it has the option to turn off sideways flight. This is key even if the drone is equipped with side sensors you should still disable sideways flight. The price isn’t bad for the Mavic 3 if they fix the issues.
@@flightriot3454 not hard to find videos of A2S crashing into trees even when going forward! Turning off the side sensors and limiting flight is not the answer, but that is what the A2S is capable of. M3 will have firmware updates that will make the APAS more robust as it evolves, A2S is already as good as it is ever going to get on that drone.
@@kevinryder5246 the Air 2S top sensors are turned out a bit and with sideways flight off it can detect far enough to the side it needs to clear the objects. I gave literally tried to let my Air 2S crash with people watching. I have two of them and I have not had either one crash yet.
As they say “Stupid is what stupid does”! And no DJI Care Refresh? What were you thinking???? The new firmware update which came ahead of schedule has cured most of what you’re complaining about!
I mean, the Mavic 3 was in the hands of users as beta testers well over a month prior to release, so there was that, but I'm sure they started mass production before then so there coulda still been issues they wouldn't have been able to fix once production neared. As far as the software, I'm not sure how they do that. I don't believe they have a beta testing group, but they may. Nonetheless, there are surely improvements to make both in hardware as well as software!
APAS and other initial missing features were on the test drones sent out for review. If you dont know when and how the drone was tested, please avoid making silly assumptions. APAS does not work well around small branches, same for all DJI, Autel and Skydio drones
@@kevinryder5246 So why is there so much wrong with it at launch. Oh yeah DJI did a great job. You don't like it because somebody comments about the issues it has. You jumped in thinking it only had a firmware update for Activetrack etc. But it has loads of issues, 2nd camera, etc. Then there is the silence from DJI on the C labelling. MAVIC 3S will no doubt be a more popular choice, as for the Mavic 3 I hope they get it sorted but until the DJI can swivel!
@@motojake1485 See this is the problem, you want "C" labelling done by DJI when the international standard is not finalized or implemented yet! I have no idea what problem you are talking about with the second camera, have never heard anyone say it was not working as intended! There are very few issues with the drone at launch, and DJI was very clear in their media releases that some functionality would not be available at launch. Most of those features are on the drone now with their initial firmware versions. The rest of the features, including revised versions of existing features will be released in january. DJI never considers a product complete and is continually tweaking and making their products better. When/If a A3 or A3's is released it will always be a step behind the latest Mavic version with perhaps some gaps depending on product release cadence. SO if you want to keep buying the mid-range Air lineup, good for you, I will always be looking at the Mavic line for my drones.
Contrary to everyone else's wishful thinking: DJI doesn't owe you anything. If you're not controlling it, it'll hit something, eventually. It relies on sensors, not advanced artificial intelligence...and sensors are easily and definitely fallible.
![My DJI Support Experience: I’m Disappointed. [DJI Mavic 3 Active Track 5 Crash]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qqn_190DIgw/mqdefault.jpg)
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1. Why would you not get the Fly More Coverage on a drone this expensive? Are you crazy?
--Crazy, maybe a little. As to why I didn't get the coverage was because I naively made the assumption that this drone would be fine with all of its additional avoidance systems it has to offer compared to everything else I've flown before. With 6 years of drone piloting experience and no major crashes, I just saw the $399 price tag for 2 years of coverage and figured eh, I'm fine with saving the money. Wrong. Don't do that. Get the coverage yourself! Save the money in the long term.
2. Will you make a video talking about your repair experience with DJI?
--- Yes, I plan to! Subscribe for that! Could be a while though until that is released with it being the holidays & me not having Fly More express coverage.
3. The Mavic 3 is NOT a SkyDio 2, you know that right?
--- Yup, as you can see in the video, I gained too much optimism in the APAS 5.0 system DJI has to offer. Always remain pessimistic about autonomous systems!
Have you asked DJI if they will replace this drone due to the sensors failing to do their job? I personally don't trust any drone around wires or trees without leaves. Not even the Skydio 2.
DJI only can give you 10% for new Drone
Congratulations, Carson! You’re so successful that you have fake giveaway bots in your comment section.
Please do a video on your drone repair experience as to repair parts and labor costs.
Absolutely! I plan to do so, considering there aren't a ton of videos out there about it especially with the Mavic 3!
Gutted for you Carson - Hopefully you get a reasonable price on your repair - I genuinely think DJI will repair your Mavic 3 just at a higher premium due to no Refresh - Thanks for your Great content and good Luck 🤞
Thanks man! I hope so too. Thanks for watching :)
Sorry about your crash.The Mavic 3 is a great drone for anyone that can afford it.
Absolutely! It’s a great drone.
I’m amazed by this drone’s image quality and battery life. I’m so sorry it crashed… Don’t give up on it just yet. Looking forward to it getting repaired so we can see and enjoy more content. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Sorry about the mishap. But hey, using your tracking feature around trees with thin branches😮. Yep, what were you thinking. Doesn’t matter if it’s an M3 or Skydio2, thin branches and thin power lines can easily do them in. Never let my Skydio2 get near thin branches, and never had an issue with it avoiding larger objects. I also always have State Farm insurance in place (and I’ve never had to use it so far). Good luck with the repair!
Sorry to hear you crashed (Or that DJI crashed) your new M3. Also, I laughed 😅 when i saw that you actually graphed out your confidence for us. I can tell you poured your heart and soul into this drone and I felt genuinely bad when it crashed and you were talking about it on the bench. Hopefully you've got this resolved already at this point in time. And I don't use the DJI care refresh myself..I have all of my drones ( except all my FPV diy builds) insured by state farm on my personal belongings insurance for camera equipment. I have my MA2 and my Autel Evo 2 fully insured and pay about 60.00 per year for the coverage. Anything goes wrong to the point it costs around what the drone costs, I can turn it in and get the full price of the drone cut in a check sent. After you use that once though, I believe you can't insure drones anymore but it's up to their "discretion". The man told me if I don't turn in more than one per year they might keep letting me insure the drones or they can opt to say no after you turn in 1 incident. Whichever..I love the Fully Autonomous Autel Evo 2 pro. I have never had any issues even near scraggly trees hard to see by camera sensors. I've had a tiny scuff with a power line one time with it but it was after I took over controls when it stopped autonomous flight right in close proximity to about 8 powerlines going in different directions while recordingmy 7 yo son on his electric dirtbike. I tapped an insulated powerline with a tip of my Autel Evo2 prop Thank God. I was a football fieldaway when it occurred and tried to recover myself when I tapped it though. Great video editing 👌 and sound editing Carson. Good job on your review bud!
I don’t trust the obstacle avoidance at all. My DJI Air 2s has crashed into trees three times when tracking, thankfully with no damage apart from broken props. Now I never use the tracking unless in open space with no obstacles
Yeah, which feels like it defeats the purpose, right? It's a shame the obstacle avoidance isn't better than it is in DJI drones, because if they could improve their game there they would most definitely have a one up over brands like SkyDio
Exactly - A2S, M2Pro, M2, all of those drones would fair even worse than the M3
Dang sorry man! All my mavic 2 crashes we're in self fly modes too!
I’m so sorry to see this happened to you, 😢 technically you didn’t crash the drone it crashed itself. I agree with you on all points, I bought it and ended up selling my Mavic 2 Pro and I’m wondering if I’m going to eventually end up regretting it. I hope DJI either replaces it or you get a reasonable price for repair. Wishing you all the best Carson.
Thank you Fly Wright! I don't think you'll regret it. Just fly safe and don't trust the APAS 5 systems as much as I did in that moment! The drone overall besides the crash really impressed me. Worth every penny IMO if you're someone who wants one of the best looking camera sensors in the sky
@@carsonmtech you did not crash that, i think DJI should send you a replacement as they can see that it crashed, and it wasn't your fault. I've seen a few of these crashing now, hope they send you a new one.
I hate to say it, but he did crash it... relying on collision avoidance to avoid those thin leafless twigs is just asking for trouble.
@@live2walk I just don’t think he did he had obstacle ovidence on so how did it crash? Plus he was even flying it, also you could rely on sensors because it’s the like newest most avandced consumer drone.
I was looking so carefull this awesome video until the point that the drone crashed..wow..i was speechless..so much money for this drone to be crashed so easily..I am so sorry for your loss my friend!Good lucj repairing it!!
Me: "Im so dead. I really should get to bed soon. I have to be up early."
TH-cam: *Active Track 5 crashed my dji mavic 3!*
Me: "Shit here we go again."
Thanks Carson!
Happy Flying!
You too and Happy Holidays!
I’m so sorry for your loss. Did you send it out for repairs yet?
Hi Carson, I'm sorry about the crash. DJI should improve the quality of sensors on thin objects such as tree branches and power lines, so that things like this can be prevented in the future.
My favorite quote of yours “what was i thinking trusting APAS”. Yup! Me too. This video could have easily been me. I also crashed my M3 with $350 in repairs followed by being gone nearly a month. There is a big design problem here: You HAVE TO TRUST ASAP because of advanced RTH. Just like you i hit some whispy leafless tree branches. Fine i can be smart enough to never use active track in a situation where APAS is required, but with the new ARTH capability its going to take some crazy path that could easily hit those same trees. So i guess RTH is no more either. IDK, I’ve lost a ton of confidence right now. Is it a firmware issue? Maybe? I’ve seen Air2S videos with active track do AMAZINGLY well and yet you and i hit tress in minutes causing $100s in damages. Let’s hope it gets better. At least for now I have zero intention of running any of the autonomous modes for quite some time. I just don’t have $3K to keep throwing around!
Sorry for the trouble you had.
Thanks for the honest and concise review and sorry for your "loss". I guess those thin branches without leaves are always a problem.
Could you please tell us how much the repair for that damage was as soon as you know it? That would be very interesting.
Ok fine APAS can’t see whispy tree branches. How the heck can the new ARTH work then. I guess that can’t’ be trusted either. Ohh i guess you can fly places without trees, sad i live in Sacramento which is coined the “City of Trees”.
I really hope DJI replace your drone free of charge. Not only have you promoted their drones in the past and no doubt helped sell a load much like myself, but this was NOT your fault, and it should NOT be something that you have to pay for, even if you did have DJI Refresh. This is DJI's fault, and they should step up, the rushed update release for Christmas sales should not be your problem. I am with you on the complaints, such cheap ass moves by a company I've heavily invested in.
Great unboxing and review of the new Mavic 3 drone. But so sorry about your crash during the Active test. Most of the crashes I have seen involving the Mavic 3 have been crashes into bare trees. I hope you able to get it repaired.
I dare say the problem is you expect the drones to avoid thin branches , winter, no leaves .... yep .... too skinny for the sensors to detect ... whatever model you have.
Great review! Sorry for the crash. Hopefully you can get it repaired soon.
Thank you - I hope so as well :-)
Wow its amazing how many crashes the Mavic 3 is having on all these different channels. Gutted for you hopefully Dji sort it for you and its not too costly. Great review too. Will hopefully watch the end part in the morning.
Hey Carson, Feel better.. Also you're not alone. I once lost a Phantom 4 Pro! Hope DJI can do something for you.. The good thing is you're a smart young man and will figure how to bounce back!
Thanks Jazz N B Flat!
Ouch...sorry about your loss and I hope it's cheap to repair.
🌞Well again sorry for your loss but shows some things can go wrong Quickly even when u r a VERY EXPERIENCED flyer. U still as u said got the video done and it looked GREAT. Have a BLESSED HOLIDAY. Fly safe.
Thanks push broom! You too, happy holidays!
You can get the coverage after repair. It looks bad, but it's very repairable. I had a busted strut when my Air2S hit a tree. And yes, it doesn't see thin branches and wires. Obstacle avoidance is good, but not 100%.
Sorry for your crash. I always get the flymore (extra batteries and a better charger) and dji refresh with all my DJI drones and i have never had to use it but I get it for a just in case.
Yeah, I will for sure going forward! With 6 years of drone piloting experience, I didn't feel there was a need in the $399 2-year coverage, but clearly there is!
Your review is pretty good. You should send it to DJI so they can see what you were doing. Hopefully they will repair it or just replace it with a new one. Don't give up bro.
Thanks Ronald, I just got in contact with them today and plan to ship it off tomorrow!
Gutted to watch it crash 💥 thanks for posting the footage - really hope you get it sorted out quickly
The Mavic 3's telephoto sensor surely pulls off the "Vaseline-covered lens" aesthetic, making the Mavic 2 Pro's 4K HQ mode video look sharp. 😄 Maybe it'll catch on in the future and will be coveted.
EDIT: It's not my drone, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not feeling second-hand sadness and anxiety at your Mavic 3's demise. I'm surprised it broke so much for not hitting a very hard surface.
My M2P auto-landed unexpectedly into a tree, flipping over, hitting a concrete roof and falling from about 20 feet. It only broke a single prop blade and dinged the side of the camera gimbal and a small area of the chin fairing.
Lol, for sure! Also, don’t sweat it! My mistake for sure for trusting the autonomous system too much, I’m very hopeful that DJI will replace the drone as I’m sure it’s not a complete loss, but I wouldn’t wanna risk the crash affecting things in the future. As far as your incident, that is quite the crash there! That’s incredible it didn’t break more. I can’t believe either how much the Mavic 3 broke apart, even with the leaf covered ground absorbing some of the fall. My guess is the majority of the damage occurred within the tree, as it was pretty violent in the tree before the motors shut off.
man … what a disappointment, DJI still hasn't overcome obstacle technology … it's a huge loss for those who trusted … skidio is still ahead in this regard …. big hug my friend, always following the channel
I would hope that DJI would at least partially cover the cost of this repair as it was flying on its autonomous mode, as for the telephoto lens, it is not designed for actually taking photos regularly, its usage is more geared for things like search and rescue and exploring, possibly other uses like surveying buildings and objects and so forth, it is not meant as an actual daily driver, i agree with the stock controller kinda sucking for such a premium drone, as well as not using the go4 app, it was so much more versatile and pro suited especially when paired with the old controllers, they should have redesigned the old controllers to be more playstation like and then put the phone holder and antennas at the top, a cross between the old and new stock controllers
Thanks for sharing, great video but what's the latest? Any updates on your drone meaning repairs and how much $$? You should make another video follow up, a lot of viewers would know what to look for if they crash their Drones imo. Thnx
Those night shots are so amazing. Awesome video and so sorry about your M3. It even hurt me when you said you didn’t have the care refresh. I’ve seen so many M3 crash videos it’s unreal. Hope you get it repaired soon and it doesn’t cost you another $2200.
Every new drone release is followed my about a month of hard pushing reviews and crash videos. ALL Drones!
i am sorry for your loss
cool ... activetrack is better than that of the Skydio 2?
I remember when I did exactly the same thing with my Mavic 2 zoom when it came out. But at least it managed to save itself somehow and continue flying, I just had to change 2 props
Why would you not get the insurance ??? First ting I did with my mavic air 2
It says right in the user manual that the drones visions system shouldn't be used in areas where there are no texture patterns that can be detected, like small tree branches. 🤷♂️
That would require reading and common sense.
Damn glad I got the two year coverage lol I hope you get a new drone or yours fixed bro!!!
Great review Carson! Hopefully they'll give you a decent price for repair...
Thanks Rocco! I sure hope so too. After opening a repair ticket today, it sounds like if they deem it was indeed from Active Track 5 (which, it was, but they have to analyze the data themselves), then they may go ahead and outright replace it without a cost more than shipping potentially!
@@carsonmtech wow! If that's so, then that is great. DJI's customer service is actually what made me switch to Autel... It's good to see that perhaps they are maybe improving on that end. I hope all turns out well for you!
Great video wow very interesting just imagine if your going 20mph on your electric skateboard then what could happened next!
Yeah for sure, I can't imagine if the drone was going faster than 11mph like it was here! Damage woulda been even worse
Everybody knows that small trees can be a Problem for the Sensors. This has never changed. Why everybody think that with Active Track 5.0 the Sensors detect also small trees? They never told you that! Active Track 5.0 has 360 degree view at the M3 and it give you a smarter Follow mode etc.
This is your fault... not DJI
With the M2 or the Air2S everybody knows: don't fly with Follow mode where you have small trees / branches.... why everybody think that this has changed with the M3? The Sensors has the same sensibility.
Even the skydio 2 crashes in those trees… but people lose their mind for nothing. In the teaser, the drone avoid trunks, not branches… it’s not the same 🤷🏻
People who cant afford the M3 love to hate, sad really
Pro tip: ANY autonomous flight, Quickshots, Mastershots etc... Thumb hover over pause/brake button. Always.
🌞 GOOD MORNING Carson 🌞
Good morning :)
Awesome review!! Thanks!
Hopefully you get it repaired 🙏
great review and sorry for the crash. that hurt to watch. I really appreciate what you said about the batteries. I always like to have a fresh charge as I change out. this is a huge turn off for me
Yeah, like the fact I had to spend and additional $80 on a charging dock just so I can charge Mavic 3 batteries separately from the drone is pretty annoying
Well, I have been testing the latest firmware with my Mavic 3 and the RC Pro. It's even more buggy with the RC Pro. There are problems which cause the DJI Fly to think that the Mavic 3 has disconnected when it hasn't. In the previous iteration of the firmware and software, it would just hang there with the video greyed out and the link light showing green. Now, RC Pro cuts off transmission which forces the Mavic 3 to return home. This signal loss bug appears to happen when the amount of data being processed is at a peak level like doing a screen capture while using Active Track 5 when airsense begins chirping out warnings about an aircraft entering your area.
Also, I noticed that the Mavic 3 flies more erratically during a screen capture using Active Track 5.0 than not. If it's fully autonomous, it really shouldn't have an effect on flight behavior, so I am at a loss to explain it. Unless of course, the RC Pro starts bombarding the Mavic 3 with incomplete signal packets which would explain all the signal errors that show up in the logs during screen capture. And, it appears that DJI Fly has a memory leak.
While this release seems to be more buggy than average for one of DJI's firmware releases, it is not atypical for the early releases of new hardware to be buggy. It's the price you pay for being an early adopter. That being said, I wouldn't take an immature system out of the box and put it in a difficult situation like you did until I was confident that it could be relied on. While APAS 5.0 is good, I am not sure I would trust it to avoid defoliated branches in the treetops while running something else that might be taxing its processing power. There are other videos of Mavic 3 crashes and near misses which proceed yours that show that APAS 5 isn't up to avoiding twigs. After looking closely at your video, I can see that the sensors are picking up the branches, but I can't see that the drone is making any meaningful effort to avoid them like it was with the tree trunks. So, this could have been another information overload situation in which the drone decided to let inertia and gravity take its course.
You do have my sympathies though. Crashing is tough, but at least only wallets, pride, and trees were hurt.
Sorry about the drone. Hope DJI replaces it. On the positive side I really enjoy watch your reviews. Keep up the good work.
I am glad you enjoy them, thank you for watching them!
I like your video but I certainly disagree with your perspective on the utility of the secondary camera. It is an extra, secondary camera with optical zoom, what is wrong with that?
The 4/3 sensor stands on it's own, most would buy the drone just for that sensor in the same way that people went to the M2Pro for the 1" Hasselblad, the 2nd camera was meant to give the drone some extra utility and was never marketed as anything more than an exploring tool.
watching £2200 fall out the sky is painful. I feel your pain
Hey Carson I put the roof on Lucas oil stadium looking good great editing job air2 s army out
Carson, I hope you took all the advice, I think DJI owe you a replacement 👍
Definitely hopefully you can get some sort of replacement so sorry for this!
Thank you!
Hey Carson that looks like Indy!
It sure is! I go to school here.
@@carsonmtech just Purchased the Mavic 3 cine still in the box had it for a couple weeks. Not sure if I’m going to keep it with All the bugs.
my current daily flyer is the Air2s & I carry a mini 2 as a "b" drone. While I had a lust for the "new, new" it is more of a want than a need at this given time
I also have a couple Mavic Pro 2's, Phantoms, & an Inspire. But, the Air2s is the daily bird
I just bought a Mavic 3 as my first drone, I am terrified it to fly it in the winter because of branches. Also apparently the gimbal on these dies on the lightest crash because of how heavy the camera is. I am thinking of only using this for open area or high elevation shots, and using something cheaper for active track around trees. That being said, I am sorry for your loss man :( I hope they repair it. Try to file a claim with your credit card, AMEX has purchase protection for 90 days, other card have similar programs for accidental damage.
Or just fly the drone yourself! 10's of thousands of the Mavic 3's have been sold, less than 10 crashes documented on youtube by mostly reviewers pushing the drone beyond its limits, do you spot the problem?
Ah yes, the best longboard: Boosted Mini X
Lol I definitely meant to say “skateboard” but because I had been riding my Exway longboard earlier in the day, that was on my mind and I didn’t bother to correct it before uploading as most people wouldn’t care hahah
i don't think dji is even close to skydio's tracking and obstacle avoidance technology
Sad news !
Please keep us updated on that repair :D maybe even DJI helps?
Buy a skydiol 2 drone on sale
The DJI line of drones is not made for trees if it was it would be part of the warranty. The DJI drone is for an open field or the desert
DJI should watch this video if they haven't seen the wrecked drone yet. They should get a new drone to replace the old one.
I am so sorry for you ….
Whats fly more coverage?
"Active Track crashed my drone!" *flies around trees when it's been noted the side sensors will not avoid trees and other obstacles* Sucks you crashed it, but sometimes you have to use common sense while flying. Good luck with your repair.
Enjoyed that unboxing until.. oops! If this would make you feel better though, my experience with DJI Care Refresh was notably positive and I got a replacement for a Mini 2 I crashed.
Skydio 2 or 2+ for active track!
If they play cool about it in the trailer, Then they'll need to cover active track crashes in guarantee.
Make sure a smart watch is not on near remote messes up drone control.
I’ve never experienced this affecting a drone flight whatsoever, only drone calibration
Pilot error!!!
Don't trust the onboard obstacle avoidance 100 percent of the time on any drone. No drone can be fully trusted, even the king of self flying SkyDio has its limitations. Always be in control and you'll less likely to crash.
Is it becoming a race with all the TH-camrs, crashing a. Mavic 3!!!! Go out out and do some serious work with that drone!!!!!
You mean refresh care?
Yeah nice try…
Wait till mommy and daddy find out you crashed a 2100 drone...
I am not getting the Mavic 3 but if I were to, I would wait around 6 months for DJI to get all of there things together and they buy it, also it might be a bit cheaper idk like $5 cheaper but yea.
Yeah, usually it's best not to purchase a tech product before it is proven to have most of the bugs ironed out! Many people are crashing this drone, so I shoulda been more careful
@@carsonmtech NO, Many people are not crashing this drone, you and a handful of vocal youtubers who for the purpose of review and subscribers, have put the drone in bad situations. 10's of thousands of M3 owners have not crashed their drone. This drone seems to be the clickbait king. I don't blame you for trying to get a free repair by posting this video, but lets call it what it is!
29:20 thats why there is a fly more combo right
I mean yes, but my point was that older DJI drones technically had a better charging solution since you didn't have to buy a higher up model or an extra charging hub in order to charge extra batteries at the same time as flying the drone!
😂😂😂 Did you say drop THE CASH OR CRASH 😂😂😂
I mean, technically I did both! But I think you're referencing 10min in, in which case I said "cash," haha!
I don’t understand why need to fly drone between lot of tree’s, and sorry for your crash
21:05 I guess you’ve never heard of fpv
It's 7k for Australians haha
For the cine
That would REALLY hurt the wallet💰💰
Hi friend, sorry for your lost. Many people say that the active track is not good yet. I think it should have detected the branches because it was pretty dense.
Yeah, definitely pretty dense, but I've now seen a number of videos where the Mavic 3 didn't detect branches in other circumstances as well...you live ya learn I guess
Damn bro I feel your pain
Enjoyed 👍👍
Hi Carson Miller
Hello!
Thanks…. I won’t be buying the dji M3 based on your review… cheers for saving me €2200 in Ireland
If it wasn't for a commercial shoot with insurance... I do NEVER DO THIS!! Agreed.... spending this much cash on any drone without "FLY MORE" coverage is very foolish. I'm staying with my AIR 2s until the next generation :) Looks like a shitting controller, they just want to force you to spend another $1000.00 to upgrade to the premium controller. I really liked the old controller as well, the only down side to me was battery life.
Don't worry dji will give u another unit
the video is amazing
You're amazing for stopping by!
pilot error.
DJI has no strong competitors in this market, and by making a sales strategy, it saves many features for the drones it will release in the future. If no one buys the Mavic3, they will release mavic3s with more features . then we can consider buying a drone that is worth the money.
I will say now that they released the firmware update that included many of the features missing from launch, it is quite an amazing drone. Worth it for $2200 if you only fly a drone here and there? Probably not. But, if you're someone who needs a really fantastic primary sensor on a drone, the DJI Mavic 3 has got you!
Mavic 3 is the drone to skip. I put my Air 2S in active track and walked through heavy woods and tons of small limbs and vine’s and ran to try to lose it and it didn’t crash. As a matter of fact I bought the Air 2S as soon as it came out and I still have never crashed it and I push its limits.
M3 costs way too much too..
How many sensors on the A2S for APAS? People say the dumbest things to suit there limited opinions
@@kevinryder5246 the reason the Air 2S is not crashing during Active Track is because it has the option to turn off sideways flight. This is key even if the drone is equipped with side sensors you should still disable sideways flight. The price isn’t bad for the Mavic 3 if they fix the issues.
@@flightriot3454 not hard to find videos of A2S crashing into trees even when going forward! Turning off the side sensors and limiting flight is not the answer, but that is what the A2S is capable of. M3 will have firmware updates that will make the APAS more robust as it evolves, A2S is already as good as it is ever going to get on that drone.
@@kevinryder5246 the Air 2S top sensors are turned out a bit and with sideways flight off it can detect far enough to the side it needs to clear the objects. I gave literally tried to let my Air 2S crash with people watching. I have two of them and I have not had either one crash yet.
You said you touched it right as it went to the trees. So you might have caused the crash.
As they say “Stupid is what stupid does”! And no DJI Care Refresh? What were you thinking???? The new firmware update which came ahead of schedule has cured most of what you’re complaining about!
Carreful i've issue with blocked motor on mavic 3
Hmmm, from a crash? Or that just randomly happened? Either way, that's no good
@@carsonmtech rondomly happend, chek rotation of Motor before every take off, if you notice some noise and résistance it's no good
How can a firm release a product that is not finished and not even ask people to be beta testers?
I mean, the Mavic 3 was in the hands of users as beta testers well over a month prior to release, so there was that, but I'm sure they started mass production before then so there coulda still been issues they wouldn't have been able to fix once production neared. As far as the software, I'm not sure how they do that. I don't believe they have a beta testing group, but they may. Nonetheless, there are surely improvements to make both in hardware as well as software!
APAS and other initial missing features were on the test drones sent out for review. If you dont know when and how the drone was tested, please avoid making silly assumptions. APAS does not work well around small branches, same for all DJI, Autel and Skydio drones
@@kevinryder5246 So why is there so much wrong with it at launch. Oh yeah DJI did a great job. You don't like it because somebody comments about the issues it has. You jumped in thinking it only had a firmware update for Activetrack etc. But it has loads of issues, 2nd camera, etc. Then there is the silence from DJI on the C labelling. MAVIC 3S will no doubt be a more popular choice, as for the Mavic 3 I hope they get it sorted but until the DJI can swivel!
@@motojake1485 See this is the problem, you want "C" labelling done by DJI when the international standard is not finalized or implemented yet! I have no idea what problem you are talking about with the second camera, have never heard anyone say it was not working as intended! There are very few issues with the drone at launch, and DJI was very clear in their media releases that some functionality would not be available at launch. Most of those features are on the drone now with their initial firmware versions. The rest of the features, including revised versions of existing features will be released in january. DJI never considers a product complete and is continually tweaking and making their products better. When/If a A3 or A3's is released it will always be a step behind the latest Mavic version with perhaps some gaps depending on product release cadence. SO if you want to keep buying the mid-range Air lineup, good for you, I will always be looking at the Mavic line for my drones.
@@kevinryder5246 How can a firm release a product that is not finished and not even ask people to be beta testers?
Contrary to everyone else's wishful thinking: DJI doesn't owe you anything. If you're not controlling it, it'll hit something, eventually. It relies on sensors, not advanced artificial intelligence...and sensors are easily and definitely fallible.
Even the flag behind you is at half mast.🤔
Lol, someone knew this was coming!
you made probably 5% of the cost of that drone for this video... ouch
More around 12ish percent @ $191.23 in Adsense from this video as of 8/23 but lol yeah, yikes overall and the situation sucked to be a part of
@@carsonmtech whoa! Thanks for the response. Great videos btw
Good Reason for Refresh, huh?!