working at a sports store this definetly helps. I should have done stuff like this in my college days. Thank you so much and i wasnt really shocked by the results. Easton has always made the lightest gear and there sticks are definetly better in durability and feel than Bauer but i had a feeling the 9900 would win. i know what i want on my head. Thanks again and keep doing research.
Waaiit... what exactly does this prove? I mean, cars are built with crumple zones to absorb the impact, the idea is that the collapse absorbs the impact. It's all about minimzing the transmission of force to the head. I still can't find, anywhere on the internet, actual numbers related to hockey helmets
the puck that hits the easton helmet is travelling much faster than the one that hits the bauer helmet. At 32 seconds the puck in the Bauer frame is clearly visible, however has not entered the camera frame yet for the Easton helmet.. At 33 seconds the puck hits the Easton helmet, however hasn't quite reached the Bauer helmet..
@iiExiiLeD ya it almost never happens but i think they r trying to build the helmets so that it can take as much of the impact as possible if it were to happen
I wonder what the difference in forces are from the inside of the helmet. Just because the puck bounces off the Bauer helmet does not mean it is really the safest. If more energy from absorbed by the easton helmet by "being crushed" than the Bauer helmet than that means less impact will be felt by the player. I mean isn't that the whole point, to receive less harm to the head at the expense of the helmet?
@KaaFOFO Agreed. It would be nice if Bauer measured the G forces and showed us those tests. They have the ability to do realistic testing, but at this time only Cascade makes any claims on G-force reduction. I think that's strange. The military is using G-forces as a helmet criteria, so between the FXPP and Poron, you'd think they'd be proud of the results if it worked. Makes you wonder, doesn't it ...
my opinion, the s19 was hit in a vent, which would be slightly weaker than another section of the helmet, with either helmet, you'd get a nasty concussion, however, it is always good to get the 3rd partys opinion
It seems to me that the point proven is Easton has a week spot. Should the have fired it at other spots? Say the front. It would have been the same result. It just says to Me that a helmet with more places to break down sucks.
rather than a puck, they should do drop tests with a simulated head inside to measure GForce. i hit the wall or the ice with my head far more than i take a puck to the head.
When I was a kid I raced motocross. We had cheap helmet when we rode trails and were petitioning my father for a better helmet for racing. He said if we can break the helmet he'd get us new ones. We hit the helmets with a sledge hammer, it scuffed it but didn't break. Dad was no dummy. He saw that the helmet was transferring the blow to the wearer (theoretically as we weren't wearing them) lol That is what I believe happened to the Bauer helmet... it would transmit the impact to the head
That is completely wrong. The helmet cracked because the helmet did not dissipate the force of the puck all the way around the helmet, but instead kept the force of the puck focused in one area cracking the helmet.
i dont think you would get hit in the head with a 62 mph shot. (espessially bc im only major pewee.) but i have the bauer 9900 helmet and its so comfy and well-fitted
@RussianHockeyMaster they only have to meet most of the regulations... not all. Obviously this is true in that with some helmet tests, helmets that become HECC and CSA certified are crushed. Also, I would love to see both helmets hit at the top of the helmet where there is already an opening.
All helmets have their weak points, you just have to aim there. I'm not sure, but it looks like in one of these test, they didn't aim for it, and in the other they did? Hmmm... Interesting....
That's suck shit I've gotten hit with a million picks in the head wearing an Easton s19 z-shock and never got hurt but the first time I ever got hit with my Bauer I was out for 8 weeks on an concussion!
maybe if they didn't hit the s19 at one of the ventilation holes...
Since Bauer owns Easton, are they saying they make crappy products?
+Jay S Video was made in 2010 Bauer didn't start to acquire Easton until 2014 I believe
working at a sports store this definetly helps. I should have done stuff like this in my college days. Thank you so much and i wasnt really shocked by the results. Easton has always made the lightest gear and there sticks are definetly better in durability and feel than Bauer but i had a feeling the 9900 would win. i know what i want on my head. Thanks again and keep doing research.
@snoboardkid122 it still has vents on it.. its just as likely to get hit in the side of the head than in any other place where the Bauer vents are..
Waaiit... what exactly does this prove? I mean, cars are built with crumple zones to absorb the impact, the idea is that the collapse absorbs the impact. It's all about minimzing the transmission of force to the head.
I still can't find, anywhere on the internet, actual numbers related to hockey helmets
It means that the impact on the s19 will hurt you head because it went in further to the helpmate which means it'll hurt your head
the puck that hits the easton helmet is travelling much faster than the one that hits the bauer helmet. At 32 seconds the puck in the Bauer frame is clearly visible, however has not entered the camera frame yet for the Easton helmet.. At 33 seconds the puck hits the Easton helmet, however hasn't quite reached the Bauer helmet..
true, i wonder what will happen if the puck shoot directly to the vent on Bauer.
@W0PPY tis not bauer it says in teh description its a thrid party group with testing at the university of ottawa
@iiExiiLeD ya it almost never happens but i think they r trying to build the helmets so that it can take as much of the impact as possible if it were to happen
they shot the same spot on both helmets and the air vent on the s19 happened to be in the spot they were shooting
I wonder what the difference in forces are from the inside of the helmet. Just because the puck bounces off the Bauer helmet does not mean it is really the safest. If more energy from absorbed by the easton helmet by "being crushed" than the Bauer helmet than that means less impact will be felt by the player. I mean isn't that the whole point, to receive less harm to the head at the expense of the helmet?
ok the puck that went at the easton helmet wasn't strait which made it break
did anyone but me notice that they shot the puck DIRECTLY upward into the air vent of the S19 helmet? just sayin...
@lahockeydario93 There is no opening at the top on the S19.Its a one piece helmey
@KaaFOFO Agreed. It would be nice if Bauer measured the G forces and showed us those tests. They have the ability to do realistic testing, but at this time only Cascade makes any claims on G-force reduction. I think that's strange. The military is using G-forces as a helmet criteria, so between the FXPP and Poron, you'd think they'd be proud of the results if it worked. Makes you wonder, doesn't it ...
@flamesfan1417 Actually a lot of player's wrist shots are faster than 62. Probably not at peewee level though.
@NUMBERoneCANIAC yeah exactly, and plus the chance of gettin hit in the head? unless u put yourself in that position, or if u block a shot or somethin
@eebro65 but u dont know if it went farther and hits the head and that logic doesnt make no sense
So what they're saying is if Chara slaps one at your head your 100% dead with Easton
my opinion, the s19 was hit in a vent, which would be slightly weaker than another section of the helmet, with either helmet, you'd get a nasty concussion, however, it is always good to get the 3rd partys opinion
If you have a $10 head get a $10 helmet!
It seems to me that the point proven is Easton has a week spot. Should the have fired it at other spots? Say the front. It would have been the same result. It just says to
Me that a helmet with more places to break down sucks.
add the fact that the s19 weighs about ad much of a feather compared to other helmets
rather than a puck, they should do drop tests with a simulated head inside to measure GForce. i hit the wall or the ice with my head far more than i take a puck to the head.
When I was a kid I raced motocross. We had cheap helmet when we rode trails and were petitioning my father for a better helmet for racing.
He said if we can break the helmet he'd get us new ones.
We hit the helmets with a sledge hammer, it scuffed it but didn't break.
Dad was no dummy. He saw that the helmet was transferring the blow to the wearer (theoretically as we weren't wearing them) lol
That is what I believe happened to the Bauer helmet... it would transmit the impact to the head
That is completely wrong. The helmet cracked because the helmet did not dissipate the force of the puck all the way around the helmet, but instead kept the force of the puck focused in one area cracking the helmet.
i dont think you would get hit in the head with a 62 mph shot. (espessially bc im only major pewee.) but i have the bauer 9900 helmet and its so comfy and well-fitted
@eebro65 not necessarily, if I shot it at normal plastic that shit would crack.
if the helmet breaks it usually means that the helmet absorbed more damage than the head. thumbs up if you agree reply if you dont..
@luckycharms1997 I wouldnt be so sure about that...
@RussianHockeyMaster they only have to meet most of the regulations... not all. Obviously this is true in that with some helmet tests, helmets that become HECC and CSA certified are crushed. Also, I would love to see both helmets hit at the top of the helmet where there is already an opening.
Uhh, no? It means that the helmet doesn't have good shot distribution...
@NUMBERoneCANIAC haha. same... well ive gotten it in the cage before, but never the side of the helmet - but its happened in practice :P
ya too bad rarely you dont get hit in the head with a puck. usually a stick or hit, why dont u show us the impact from boards
why would anyone want the s19 helmet aka the space cadet
ok i love bauer stuff but the S19 helmet passed all safety regulations while all other helmets are yet to do that...
@XxedmontonfanxX You're in the hospital because you have broken ankles from bending them so much.
@cup250p00nyou not really i bet a puck going that fast is gonna beat you when your a player going 20 mph
i saw the exact opposite of this video on the easton website.
i like the bauer helmets the're comfortable and protective
easton and bauer are both very good, dont listen to this vid u cant go wrong with any of these two products
@flamesfan1417 I get hit in the head in practice all the time. haha. never in a game though. I've never gotten more than a puck mark.
easton needs to step up their game
@xAxBeVaNxBx There's more to the helmet than the plastic shell.
good thing i switched my easton helmet for my bauer helmet :)
All helmets have their weak points, you just have to aim there. I'm not sure, but it looks like in one of these test, they didn't aim for it, and in the other they did? Hmmm... Interesting....
haha, for all of you guys saying bauer is making this up... bauer didn't even do the test, some university did
Funny how the angle of the puck is different when it hits the easton helmet......nice try Bauer!
the 9900 wouldve broken too if you wouldve shot a puck right at one of its vents
Give the same speed to the puck , than we will see the diference ...
of course their gonna make fun of Easton! Bauer MADE the vid!
That's suck shit I've gotten hit with a million picks in the head wearing an Easton s19 z-shock and never got hurt but the first time I ever got hit with my Bauer I was out for 8 weeks on an concussion!
i think ill stick with bauer...
@FrederickFuryHockey5 lolol i laughed
Bauer 9900 wins.
9900 is way better
shows how bad easton helmets are thumbs up if you agree
too bad bauer cheated
propaganda.