@@AndrewGold1Isn't this the same interview that I have seen as an Edgehog? 😅 I think so, I liked it a lot. Good thing you've put it here at Heretics aswell though, ppl should see this 🤗
I’ll say it again. Look for an expert in pollutant caused gender dysphoria. Stop just talking to people who say the same thing and who are ignorant of these studies. For the sake of truth.
One of the things I really appreciate about Dawkins is how restrained he is when he doesn't have a firm opinion about something, or doesn't know a lot about it. I understand that can be frustrating for an interviewer, but the lack of bloviating is so honest and refreshing. He's a man who knows a lot about some things, but is perfectly comfortable saying "I don't know", when he doesn't.
@@andrewgoldheretics I think there are a fair number of chatty podcast/er guest types (the usual suspects 🙂) who,if they were honest with themselves and their audience, could probably cut down on the verbiage quite a lot - but that's not as entertaining.
@@andrewgoldhereticsI think it’s fine with people like Dawkins who speak less to allow some awkward silences while you collect your thoughts like Lex Friedman. I appreciate that you don’t *always* do that, and that you keep the conversation flowing and moving. But we’ll be patient through some awkward silences! :) I think Dawkins also has some long silent pauses between questions during his own interviews while he processes or thinking about what to say next.
Have you seen his demonstration on how the eyeball evolved? He spews nonsensical pseudoscience trying to explain the evolution of vision, hes a total God hater and believes in actual magic.
@@pollyparrot9447 I understand that natural skepticism but in areas like this I tend to be guided by the experts on the subject, after all Dawkins has first-hand experience.
While I am happily identifying as a tall and handsome man, some uneducated ruffian called me a fat, short arsed ginger wanker yesterday. It's most perplexing!
Its refreshing how humble Dawkins is. When he says "I dont know enough about physics to talk about that" its funny because I bet he knows much more about physics than the complete layman and if he had massive ego he could talk around the subject and say some key phrases and have people thinking he does in fact know a lot about physics or was even an expert. But he simply doesnt blow smoke and fake it like he easily could. Its a rare quality these days to not want to have the "expert opinion" and be seen as the smartest man in the room.
And then you have people like Trump who acts like he's an expert in everything. A 10 year old Dawkins knew more about everything than Trump has "learned" into his 70s.
Yeah, can you put a timestamp with a long commen that might be interesting? Otherwise, some readers just can’t make progress. Plus I am certain I do know enough physics to evaluate, but I don’t have all day.
@@magnetiktraxyour comment is contradicted by reality. You probably think he said to 💉 bleach? I suppose that’s good for you, as starting with facts that are contradicted by reality can logically lead to beliefs that are.
Dawky once came to talk to us at my university to debate religion at the Cambridge Union. Despite the fact that he was comprehensively demolished by the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Williams, he spoke very well. Afterwards he was signing copies of his book _The Greatest Show On Earth._ I said "Can you address it to my mum Marie please? She's a churchgoer but she likes your stuff." Which was true. Dawky didn't seem very pleased, but politely signed the book anyway.
About the fear of dying: I always find consolation in the thought that i am a ring in the chain of life. I was born, received life, love, education, and during my life i give back to the next generation. I think this is the real meaning, and it's good enough for me.
its a strange one. We dont know anything before we were born, and we seem to know nothing about after we were born. Who's to say 'we' wont happen again. in this amazing universe of life :)
I'm not afraid of dying. I'm afraid of being eternal. What can you do that will occupy you for eternity? When you've done everything that you can do and experienced everything that can be experienced eternity is still going to continue forever. It sounds hellish.
My lack of fear of dying sort of plays off of yours. I’ve come to realize that at 51 years old, I’ve lived longer than many before me (my mom died at 51 and I’m now older than she was), and I’m thankful for that. Sure, I hope to “leave my mark” in some way, but to be honest, I’m happy to have made it this long and if tomorrow were my last day, I’d “be good” with the excess life so many never had a chance to experience. 🤷🏻♂️
@@doctorfunkshock No, you cannot maintain a just and flourishing culture without the belief in Jesus. Atheism and the belief in false gods gives rise to the state without restraint. History is replete with examples like communist China and Nazi Germany in modern times. The atrocities in the 20th century are unsurpassed - a century marked by the west abandoning its Christian heritage and embedding other beliefs like secularism and eastern mysticism. Christianity, whether you like it or not, and for all its mistakes, is the mother of western civilisation and gave us hospitals, universities, the end of slavery, beautiful art, music and architecture. No society can reap the blessings of Christianity, while continuing to deride it and embrace affluence and the worship of the sovereign self as their gods. Richard Dawkins for decades openly mocked Christians and called for other atheists to mock them and their God. God is not mocked, He is judging the west : "Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them." Psalm 2 verses 1 and 2. I grieve over what has been lost including the ability to reason, which is best seen in transgender ideology and the brutality it results in especially on confused children's bodies.
“Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.” ― Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle
I think there’s an important thing often missed when discussing fear of death. I think many people are more afraid of how they’ll die, not of being dead.
I also fear the pain my loved ones will feel when I die. But of course, I can only find that upsetting whilst I'm still alive...when they aren't actually in pain...because I'm not dead yet.😂
Yes very astute and so true. People like dawkins who design thought crimes against christians merely as a stepping stone to designing a totalitarian removal of all free speech do not care about anything & cannot sense shame.
"With Christianity, we feel home." - Richard Dawkins. We are praying you open the door. You have no idea how many people are praying. God bless and keep you❤❤❤
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
@@josepholeary3286They didn't as far as I recall, having just watched it? Great, now my short term memory is going... You're sure you're not confusing a mention of Peter Hitchens or something?
It's not death, itself, that is frightening. It is the business of dying - the pain, the sad ending of being alive and, in many case, the loss of dignity.
The so-called "loss of dignity" is a social problem related to demands that people be independent - able to look after themselves without needing help from other people - able to feed themselves, clothe themselves, use the toilet, and so on - all things that diminish as people become older, or become ill, and things that many disabled people have to live with all their lives. In short, the problem is a society that values selfish individualism over social support, and which harbours nasty prejudices regarding disability, illness, and old age. The result of this social problem is the rise of a death cult - typified by the organisation Dignity in Dying - which actively promotes the killing of people rather than caring for them and solving the social problems and mental health problems that lead people to consider their lives to be "undignified".
@@omp199 What you seem to be saying is because disabled people have no choice but to put up with the indignity of other people having to feed them, clean them, toilet them and so on, previously able-bodied people who find themselves unable to look after themselves should be obliged to endure the same indignity, I’m not a disabled person and I have no concept of what it feels like to be a disabled person. But a disabled person should have the same rights over their body as I have over mine. Most disabled people, as far as I can tell, decide that life is so precious that they are prepared to accept the indignities that are a part of their living experience. I understand that. ‘Dignity in dying’ does not promote the killing of people. That is nonsense. In a civilised society, the individual should have sovereignty over their own body whether they are able-bodied or disabled. Dignity in dying simply puts the case that when an individual no longer thinks that life is worth living, then they should have the right to bring it to an end. The reasons why a particular person makes that judgement will depend on his or her own previous experiences and it is not up to other well-meaning people to make that judgement for them. Many people, especially as they become elderly, do not wish to accept the indignities that disabled people experience throughout their lives. They don’t want other people looking after them. It has nothing to do with social problems or mental health problems. People have to experience these indignities if they are in hospital having an operation. The difference is that people, at the end of their lives, know that their condition is going to get steadily worse and that they would rather have their life ended before that happens. It is a perfectly rational decision to make. I’m in my late seventies and I love life but I don’t know how I’ll feel in ten or twenty-year’s time, if I’m still alive. I may decide to carry on to the very end or I may decide to call it a day and have my life ended for me. But whatever I decide, it will be my decision and not someone else’s.
@@davidclifford5124 No, I am not saying "disabled people have no choice but to put up with the indignity of other people having to feed them, clean them, toilet them and so on". Don't put words in my mouth, especially when I was quite clearly distancing myself from the disgusting view that you are pretending I am espousing. What I am saying is that there is nothing "undignified" about having support with feeding, cleaning, toileting, and so on. Not only are those things not "undignified", they are positively *good things:* they are demonstrations of a decent, caring, supportive society, which is what we should all want. If you call those things "undignified" then you are the problem: you are making people who are old, ill, and disabled feel that they should not be asking for help with the things that we non-disabled people take for granted. You are demeaning those people and trying to make them feel like they are a burden to others. You are using disablist rhetoric to push for the killing of those people. You are no better than those who use racist rhetoric to excuse the killing of minority ethnic people, or who use sexist rhetoric to excuse the killing of women.
@@omp199 I’m not putting words in your mouth. You talk about ‘selfish individualism over social support’ and ‘nasty prejudices regarding disability’. You’re the one who raised the issue of disability, not me. My view, whether you like it or not, is that having to be fed, cleaned and toileted is undignified. Whether disabled people think it undignified is their business. Of course, providing support for people who, for whatever reason, are unable to support themselves is a demonstration of a decent, caring and supportive society. Nobody is arguing against that. Neither am I demeaning the people who try to make them feel valued and not a burden. But you seem to take the view that people have some sort of duty to accept that support. I wouldn’t want to and I don’t care what you think about it. As far as your final two sentences are concerned, they are beneath contempt.
You really keep the conversation moving, which is quite a challenge with Richard, who tends to respond often curtly. A lively and interesting exchange. Thank you, Andrew.
Thats only because he has skeletons in the cupboard from Hell thats hes finding increasingly hard to dodge around without that seeming suspicious seeing as hes going on shows. Dawkins designed the thought crimes that were oppressing christians only at first. Not for long - his evil rogue designs were always going to do more to the people at large - like ALL PEOPLE NOT JUST RELIGIOUS ONES. Thus lead to the essentialist metaphysics that have resulted in misgendering thought crime and the shutting down of everyones free speech. Make no mistake though there were no thought crimes until dawkins et al began there campaigns.
I think the actors, especially, who profited so strongly from J.K.R.'s characters and then turned against her speaks volumes against them. They miss her point, entirely, and are nowhere near the caliber of person they played.
We're all a composite of male and female characteristics. That doesn't mean we're in the wrong bodies. It just means that we have traits of both sexes within us. Boys liking purple and girls liking trucks is perfectly normal.
Dawkins is a good scientist and an excellent writer, but he is certainly not a good human being. He publicly sides with Israel even as it mass-murders children.
@@northernlight8857 I don't see how it's 'anti trans' to say that a man may feel like a woman but the mental exercise of wishing that his body were also female doesn't change their biological sex. It's wishful thinking.
@@l.binjam1053 The problem is that transpeople don't say that. It's a strawman and unprecise use of language. They don't talk about biological sex at all. No one is claiming to change their chromosomes. There is a difference between sex and gender And definitionaly there is a difference between sex and biological sex. And parts of biological sex is changeable. Hormons and surgery can make biological and physical changes. Not to the degree as having a certain spec of chromosomes does, but there is a lot of things humans does that isnt "the natural thing". Having a pacemaker, operating cleft palates, circumcisions, blood pressure medicines, insulin, color our hair, use glasses/lasic surgery and the list goes on.
The sense of guilt demanded of white people for slavery is weird considering that slavery in one way or another has been almost universal and especially considering that the slavery that was ongoing outside the "white" world long before transatlantic slave trade is still going on.
Also the people that outlawed it and enforced it worldwide. The UK paid for the freedom of all slaves in Africa and the debt wasnt fully paid off until a few years ago.
the word 'slav' comes from slaves. unfortunately the arabs came and enslaved the now called slavic peoples. ppl in europe have been slaving each other CENTURIES before they knew africa existed. they got there and found the africans had their own thriving slave trade. but no, only one race of ppl have ever suffered
A wee man came to my door ....and the first words out of his mouth was ' do you know where your going after you die ? My answer was ' your question is irrelevant to me , when I expire that's it , nothing , zilch and goodbye , don't come back ' . I didn't tell him I was one of the 53 per cent of British citizens who happen to be non-religious .
Why does such stupid irresponsible misanthropic evil constitute 'huge intellect' ? Dawkins modelled the first thought crimes since the witch trials, first shutting down Christian worship in public ( they get arrested now ) - only for the same models to move onto SHUTTING DOWN EVERYONES FREE SPEECH. I cannot understand how so many people fail to observe he did this.
Richard Dawkins is a decent and honest man, if he does not know, he won't pretend to know. What he knows as a scientist and biologist is via education and is factual, he believes in nothing, only knows what he knows. I admire him, he is a righteous person.
He's been told multiple times, from specialists in their fields that his views on gender are scientifically wrong. Yet continues to peddle this willfull ignorance
@@michaelricketson1365 What is ment is believing in the sense of "believing in something without any evidence". Faith is another word for it. If you have evidence, than you know or have trust in it or assume it's right based on some evidence.
@@DavidGraeberWasRightI rather suspect he's been told that publicly by some specialists, but other specialists equally qualified in that field, have privately told him, "Don't listen to them Richard, you're fine."
Much of what he’s spent is life advocating for, i.e., the dissolution of religion, including English Anglicanism, is precisely what has enabled these bizarre and subversive neo-Marxist ideologies to flourish in its vacuum 🤷♂️
Indeed. In search of knowledge. And he doesn't preach. Vast knowledge and a life in education, extremely humble. And hes happy to share his knowledge with us all. Such an eminent man. I put him in the same esteemed category as: Einstein, Asimov, Sagan, Clarke etc. If only the human race consisted of these vast intellects who educate us all and impart knowledge/factual information (instead of the crazy irrational religious types who remain forever deluded in their ignorance). Needless to say I'm an educated Humanist.
The thing where Peterson elevates his language is called code switching by linguists. We all do it, and it’s a linguistic skill we all need to communicate effectively. We should pitch our language appropriately for the audience or interlocutors. Where it might be a problem, is if it is perceived someone is doing it manipulatively, for example when politicians like Tony Blair or George Osborne famously used Estuary English pronunciation while talking to factory workers, it was perceiving as a bit fake, they couldn’t quite pull it off. It’s possible that what you pick up from Peterson is some kind of ‘pissing contest,’ behaviour, where he’s trying to make himself sound more interesting than perceptive intellectual rivals. But to be fair, maybe he’s just pitching his language differently for Fry and Dawkins. Maybe he admires them as equally smart, and enjoys speaking to his perceived peers, or maybe he’s insecure and needs to show off. But these are all maybes. You’d have to ask him.
Atheism has nothing to do with being macho. I'm a female atheist. I agree with Richard Dawkins' statement about Piers Morgan being a fool. I see religion as showing the extent of human egoism.
I don't think there is anything wrong with religion in general. It's just the people who always ruin everything. The Bible contains great information about how to conduct yourself in the world to get the most out of life without hurting others. What do people make of it? "I need to kill you because you said something about the Bible that I interpreted differently". That's not the fault of the Bible.
So why are atheists so smugly sanctimonious and obnoxious? I'm not religious btw... i just find it incredibly arrogant how anyone can just judge millions of people as idiots or egotists....
Atheists just want to emphasize the negative views to justify their stance. Religion is tainted in many ways by many kinds of human characteristics. Egoism by itself isn't bad. Many or even most who appear or try to appear to be altruistic do this of very egoistic motives.
I really admire Richard Dawkins. He speaks the truth and bravely combats delusion. As someone else said, if he doesn’t have a firm opinion or definite knowledge about something, he doesn’t bullshit and say something just for the sake of it.
I'd agree with one exception; his debate with Mehdi Hassan when he refused to stand by his own assertion that indoctrinating children into religions is a form of child abuse. It was cowardly.
@@bladewed you mean the same Mehdi Hassan who conceded that he believes that Mohammed ascended to heaven on a winged horse? Was it that same interview?
I do not know who i admire the most on this interview, Richard Dawkings or the interviewer. What a great set of skills the interviewer has. This was a remarkable interview. New subscriber here.
I love Richard Dawkins... Have read all his books.. Man is an absolute legend and I must say Andrew is starting to gain that status in my mind... I listen to this pod in work and really love how open minded and reasonable Andrew is... It's such a breath of fresh air in this world of narratives.... Appreciate what you do Andrew... Keep it up 💙🙌
So many wonderful topics discussed. I love to hear Richard Dawkins speak on these topics. The interview is a treasure to listen to, both Andrew Gold and Richard Dawkins.
This is not a lie: people need hope, people need to know they are valuable, people need to know they are loved. If this is true then it makes perfect sense that God came in human form as Jesus to bring hope, comfort and love. It IS rational to see that the human condition needs hope to sustain it.
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
@@andrewgoldheretics Just a factual point to clear up about JK Rowling. Because she actually confirmed that her books were based on the New Testament! The fact is that when Harry Potter visits his parents' graves in Chapter 16 of "Deathly Hallows," titled "Godric's Hollow." On his parents' tombstone Harry reads the quote "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death," while on another tombstone (that of Dumbledore's mother and sister) he reads, "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." While Rowling said that "Hogwarts is a multifaith school," these quotes, of course, speak for themselves. The second is a direct quote of Jesus from Matthew 6:19, the first quote is from 1 Corinthians 15:26. Rowling told reporters during a press conference at the beginning of one of her Open Book Tours. It wasn't because she was afraid of inserting religion into a children's story. Rather, she was afraid that introducing religion (specifically Christianity) would give too much away to fans who might then see the parallels. According to Rowling… "To me [the religious parallels have] always been obvious," she said. "But I never wanted to talk too openly about it because I thought it might show people who just wanted the story where we were going."(J.K. Rowling). Indeed, at its most simplistic, Harry's final tale can in some respects be boiled down to a resurrection story, with Harry venturing to a heavenly way station of sorts after getting hit with a killing curse in Chapter 35, only to shortly return. JK Rowling even describes herself as Christian!
@@georgedoyle2487So you accuse JK Rowling for having lack of fantasy and plagiarism? I can't see anything positive with this information..... only that everyone borrows from already existing media so much they can....
I enjoyed a supremely close relationship with my father. I was his favorite person and he was basically mine. I lost him two years ago to a long journey with cancer. As a Christian, I relate to what Dawkins is saying about "missing". My father said when he was dying "to live is Christ and to die is gain ". I hurt for his pain and suffering and my grief is a mix of sadness bc of the man I miss but I receive more joy that he is where he belongs. I have experienced true peace because of my faith. I still think of how I miss him and the comfort and friendship I had in him but that comes as a brief wave and leaves as soon as it came. He was a wonderful father and should, by God's grace, live exactly where he is.
The sad thing about faith is being asked to believe something without the slightest reason to believe that it is true.why would believers be asked to do that?because there have been 7,000 plus gods proposed by humans over time in hundreds of different languages and in hundreds of different countries.and there is not and never has been the slightest evidence that any of them are real.so used car salesman's tactics are used.'Believe because I told you 'the rational position to take is to withhold belief until a God is proven to exist.
@@clarkelaidlaw1678 Seeking comfort is not something to be derogatory about. As you said, believing in a deity(ies) is a human past time of long standing. No sense can be made of the void without something to hang on to. Presumably, your belief is it's all a massive coincidence. That's still a belief
@@clarkelaidlaw1678 Fair comment Clarke. Factual yardsticks help us to guage what we can measure, but if we want to guage dimensions beyond our perception, perhaps a cerebral yardstick is a necessary requisite. You forced me to think about that one (!). Incidentally, I've seen Dawkins struggle with the idea of consciousness
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
Dawkins has a good intellect but has little intelligence. His worldview is atrocious; he praised the warmonger John McCain as a "good man", has "no sympathy for Julian Assange" and worse of all, stands with Israel even as it mass-murders children.
Its absolutely amazing you learned five languages through reading the Harry Potter series. It actually happens to have over a million words in English, and I've also read it to my son practicing voice acting. I love the content. Keep it coming. :)
If you ever doubted whether or not you had the mettle to be a good interviewer, this one has provided the answer! Dawkins, as interesting as he is, did not give you much material to work from within an 'action-reaction' type scenario. You did a fabulous job of keeping the conversation going that highlighted a part of Dawkins we don't often get to see - a contemplative but non-committal version of the galloping 'horseman' we've sometimes characterized him to be. Very well done, Andrew! Thoroughly enjoyed.
Such rational discourse. I thought I came up with the idea that for approximately 4+ Billion years I was not alive and after I die it will be the same for me, all by myself. Perhaps I came up with this idea, independently or I heard/read it somewhere. This actually gives my comfort, nothing much to worry about. I heard this recently, dying is easy, the living after a loved one dies is hard.
Except of course he believes that anyone who voted for brexit (that's a term i have come to hate) is actually not intelligent enough to be ALLOWED to vote on such a matter. He firmly believes that "the Plebs" (ordinary folk) shouldn't have been allowed to vote in the first place, let alone listened too. He's just a well educated snob, who "knows better" how the people should have voted. Like all snobs in this country seem to think. With that one idea of "obvious" superiority of his, he lost ALL credability in my eyes, long ago.
Dawkins' belief in science and the wonderfulness of the natural world is quite a profound belief system in itself. I'm excited about his podcast based on the title ("The Poetry of Reality") - because I agree, what is is quite beautiful.
The reason why David can recall quotations from memory is because, during his formative education, it was required that you could call to mind and accurately repeat large amounts of quotations from literature.
It is nice to hear your English voice and what you say when I am living in America and miss my own kind of people, Andrew. I love to listen to you all the time.
A member of my church just passed away. He was one of our elders. We are all very sad because we miss him and we miss the loss of him. We are not sad that he is moving on to a better life. That is how most Christians feel.
That’s perfectly understandable. As an atheist, I never understood why one would use that rather weak argument, and frankly I’m a bit disappointed that Dawkins struggles to understand it. It’s only natural for a person who has built a bond or relationship with another human to be sad that this person is no longer part of their world. There is a similar thing that I’ve experienced that seems baffling to me. I’ve known Christians that were on deaths door and spoke of how frightened they were of dying and did absolutely anything they could do to prolong their lives despite having diabetes, amputations and a myriad of other ailments. Seems to me that after spending a lifetime quoting the bible that they would be a bit more willing to go to this place.
Dawkins was just using one of he cheap throw-away lines, typical of his type of athesist. Athesists can be and often are among the nicest people one could meet, but Richard Dawkins isent one of them.
I - as Richard Dawkins - struggle to understand, why the belief in a delusion shall make you feel happy. I do not feel sad for the person, who just passed away. I am sorry for those who lost a loved one. I understand their pain, but I am confident that the one who died does not feel any discomfort.
Well... There's nuance there. Dawkins is saying most Westerners don't seem certain people who've passed are away at a better life: that grief shouldn't manifest in the way it does if it's merely separation anxiety (I.e. 'I buried the love of my life today at age 85, but I can't feel too bad because I'll see him in a couple years, and he's in eternal bliss now anyway', is rarely the attitude that's on display when that happens.) If you believe you are *certain*.
@@dante6985 You can be absolutely certain that you will see your loved one someday and Still miss their currently absent presence. Both things are possible at once. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Hes a gr8 interviewee , just have to ask him relevant ?’s to him, so well done for him for being him, alas interviewer was hunting for scandle… every ? He asked, host didn’t know 🙄
@@geoffwarner8021 idk dude the guy asked for thoughts on a totally non-controversial philosophical question about becoming a clone to go to Mars and Dawkins demanded further notice of that question. Dawkins expressed his interest in this thought experiment, so it was definitely relevant. Dawkins is smart but he's kind of a prick too. You can be both, nobody is a perfect person. His podcast will probably suck cock if he's this bad at casual conversation.
New listener/watcher here. You're absolutely fantastic, Andrew. The questions you ask and the insight you get out of your guests is incredible. I watch a lot of Dawkins and he normally tires easily of interviewers if there isn't any substance to the interviewer and their questions. He really engages with you and that speak volumes about your ability as an interviewer.
Somebody stands up and says, "I'm a woman because I say I'm a woman". Yes, that's an informed understanding about what happens ever (roll eyes). Trans women know they're not cis women. Why are you two talking about this? You're not trans. Why would Andrew encourage RD's ignorance and bigotry on this subject? If you want to call something insane, how about RD and Gold being incapable of understanding that not everyone fits into their gender definitions and calling people insane on that basis is the ugliest of humanity. RD's bigotry spoken in a soft voice is still bigotry. While he's at it, he should shut the eff up about anyi-black racism. He doesn't have a clue.
Imagine if the mainstream media was like this. Great minds discussing interesting things. Instead of vacuous reality tv and divisive politics, with blubbering idiots.
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
For once someone agrees with my view that gender identity ideology is conservative in it's reliance on stereotypes of masculinity and femininity. Thank you Andrew Gold! Also an excellent, fascinating interview.
What would you call the government of I R A N? They are so homophobic that they compel gay men to have the surgeries and take the hormones. This'll be a pro-conservative issue at the drop of a bribe oh I mean a hat
Great discussion, and good to see some good old fashioned commonsense, which is becoming very uncommon in our rush to embrace the new woke religion. I highly recommend John McWhorter’s excellent book: Woke Racism- How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.
I loved this exchange so much! Andrew's got this child like attitude with his excited questions, to which Dawkins responds with the kindly, patient professor role. What a joy to watch! Edited to correct...I used the wrong "to"!! What a faux pas!!
This is the most interesting thing I've watched online for a while. You deffo got a new follower and looking forward to watching you're other interviews.
You're a very good interviewer Mr. Gold. Pure gold. 😆 Thank you for bringing in a man I admire deeply. I'm so glad to see Mr. Dawkins' mind is still sharp and brilliant. I'll definitely keep an eye on your channel for enjoyable and enlightening interviews. Cheers!
Richard Dawkins thinking is steeped in logic and science and does not seek to curry favour from his paymasters by obfuscating an argument in the form of say, Jungian Archetypes or any other word salad as some other pseudo web intellectuals do, or by parroting the woke dogmas du jour to gain social posturing brownie points and avoid cancellation. The man is fearless and I fully respect him for that.
Thank you very much for this. This interview is just so respectful, interesting and entertaining. Great Interviewer.. Richard Dawkins is most brillant of course.
I worked out the Darwin theory on my own as a kid in school. It just seemed so natural that things evolve according to their habitat, health and predators. Of course no species just suddenly appeared. I'm an atheist because I have never seen/heard of one piece of evidence that there is a god. Simply it is therefore impossible for me to imagine there is a god let alone pray to one.
"Physicists say the Physical Constants are fine-tuned for Life".- Dawkins. We have observable evidence for one universe fine-tuned for Life. That, to me, suggests an Intelligence behind the formation of the universe.
It is one theory, only an improbable theory. Contingence is perhaps more cogent. The "Rare Earth" theory is interesting. That "Inteligence" behind is just wishful thinking.
Dawkins, always a pure delight. Gold, a bit simple, but nice to look at. Comments: STATUS is not a human need; speaking differently to different people is called REGISTER; “Is it dangerous?” Have you not been paying attention? WOMEN and GIRLS are endangered by this ideology;
I've seen many interviews with Richard Dawkins but my two favourite ones have been on your podcast - this one and the one you did previously on your other channel. I know you've mentioned that you found this interview quite hard going because he gave short answers but you actually respond and react so naturally you bring out warmth and humour in this discussion. This was so enjoyable, I loved it. I would be interested to see you interview Neil deGrasse Tyson - many have tried but they cant get past his prickliness and he's hard to like (i'm yet to warm to him) - i wonder if you can crack him.
Aw thank you! I need to do batches of episodes in the States at some point so will try him but I agree with you, he seems just too impossible to talk to.
@@andrewgoldheretics I'd also love to see you interview Neil deGrasse Tyson, but yeah what mazoomska said - you need to be very prepared to be able to interview him successfully (?lol). However, I'd add that I seem to have noticed Tyson can be a great interviewee if he likes you, and he likes intelligent people, which you certainly are. So don't be discouraged. I think it would be awesome. 😉 Cheers!
Hmmm the man who purports that we came from apes and studies evolution, but cannot answer that question? It means he WILL NOT get into discussion of that question, OR he knows full well it always narrows to two genders, and anything else is anomaly ... so why not have a more research and intelligent answer on this by this time? Curious if you ask me.
Are there differences in children, adolescents, adults? The difference is hormones. They make the same brain work quite differently. There might be other things as well though.
I actually love all your interviews with Richard Dawkins. He is incredibly intelligent and great viewing. I feel like he has an affinity with you Andrew as an interviewer. I feel that Richard is the sort to not suffer fools gladly. Congratulations to you also Andrew, it’s easy to get viewers on click bait items but Herectics is so good. Not everyone wants that, but I’m loving it. Even if I don’t know the topic, I will still press play on every episode/link. Congratulations you
This same question about what it would be like to die and be nothing ever after used to puzzle me for some time, but I solved it now. I recently had to undergo knee surgery under full anaesthetic and that experience showed me what death will be like. Here’s how I would describe the experience of full anaesthesia: I am lying on the bed and the anaesthesiologist says something to me. He says “I am administering the cocktail now you are done”. Only that the last few words, “you are done” were spoken not by him, but by a nurse in the recovery room. There was literally nothing between the two moments, not even the awareness of nothing. And that is what death is going to be like. Only you will not come to again afterwards. You may hear somebody say something and then - . Quite pleasant actually. If I ever had a fear of death, or an apprehensiveness of the moment of death, I lost it now. Nothing to be afraid of.
@@nelisklarenbeurger4630 well I sure agree with your last point 😀. It seems to me that my comment somehow rubbed you up the wrong way. Apologies if that should have been the case. I wish you well - kindest, Ralph.
Let’s also think about people who choose Medically Assistance in Dying. They get a sedative followed by a heart stopping chemical, and that’s it. Black out.
@@Puzzlesocks No “being dead” is the same feeling as “not being born”. Dying marks a transition from being alive to being dead. I guess it’s the same sensation as the transition from being conscious before the administration of anaesthetic to the state of mind after its administration.
@@ralphhebgen7067 It's effectively the same. If consciousness is acting like the skin of a drum, of which reality interacts with and the resonance of generates our experience, (a simplification but effectively accurate), then the time before birth and the time after death where you have no consciousness for reality to interact with is the same result. No amount of hitting the non-existent skin of the drum will make any noise. Also it's rather rude to tell me no when you are just guessing at the answer. The implications of what we know of science and physics both lead itself towards my answer more than yours, because in your case it's not an elimination of consciousness but rather a temporary stifling of it. Your brain doesn't shut down and stop working just because you got a little sleepy gas. When you die, functions cease.
THAT is the understatement of all time !! You are referring to a man that made christianity a thought crime & where that design in crime is now shutting down EVERYONES FREE SPEECH. 1 - First thought crimes since the Witch Trials 2 - Thought Crime designs are THE most malicious and evil type of gossip that can be inflicted. 3 - Ad Hominem against all humanity 4 - Dawkins has even mocked the dead with that. What he has done could not affect more people nor be more evil. = You could not be more wrong.
I hope he's right about "the first half of your life is spent writing your CV, and the second half writing your eulogy". That would mean, at 67, I haven't lived half my life yet!
Great episode Andrew. I haven’t thought about Saphir-Whorf since uni. This conversation gave me lots of ideas on something’s I have been working on. So thanks for the insights and inspiration. ❤
I'm an atheist, I love being alive, I believe when I die that's gonna be it, and I can't help but admit I feel terrible about the fact that *I'm not gonna get to see the end of this movie!*
Dawkins is a National Treasure. He politely eviscerates everything, including you Andrew, with logic, composure, class, elegance, eloquence and sophistication. He's like a fucking Leonardo Da Vinci for our times!
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
What a strange and sort of quirky conversation. It was really fun to watch Richard Dawkins in that environment. But what comes through is that both speakers seem to enjoy the fun of it. I enjoyed it too.
I don;t think Dawkins thinks you are allowed to have any opinions because you are a christian ands he had you shut you down. His thought crime models against christians mean you cannot worship in public because there LAWs against christians being christians out in the open being and thinking like christians and arrests are inevitable as you are expected to do it privately In fact Dawkins might class you even SAYING you are catholic as illegal ? I'm not sure - but definitely all it takes to be under arrest is to perform any kind of christian practice in public - wear a cross - carry a bible & don;t even think about saying a prayer even in mime - christians get nicked for that. If this dawkinsian model don't stop you via religion they'll stop you anyway because you are a Human Being. The thought crimes new atheism et al designed are now SHUTTING DOWN ALL FREE SPEECH.
he's just a man. And the beliefs and opinions of Christians are just as valid, no one is shutting us down. It doesn't matter how big they think they are in their own brain. Doesn't matter how intellectual you are, we're all flawed and Christ paid our sins so we could be forgiven.@@cameroncameron2826
@@northernlight8857 Theres no similarity Northern except for your new atheism religions use of a cartoonistic style of 'empirical statement' you expect to work ! But thats how the typical new atheist follower was taught isn't it ? just be a minion saying the same ridiculous stuff. Don't you feel as though your intelligence is being insulted every time Dawkins has stage management on standby for his silly '' Oh the faries at the bottom of garden with the Gnome & the spaggetti monster '' etc ? You don't know he had film crew & and agency staff entourage put up signs saying LAUGH & they's hahahahaha whoop!!!! whistle !!!! exactly as ordered or they'd not be paid etc etc etc etc etc ??? Are you people under his spell ? Because you are also debunking the same things he did on his enemies of reason series because Dawkins know that HE can debunk & then pull lucrative KOOK since nobody will suspect hes a clever confidence artiste himself Another example of this is with Derren Brown. His audience has been fooled to believe he doesn't pull dodgy stuff off because hes a debunker as well. Debunkers cannot be debunked because they are debunkers therefore are immune from scrutiny is that your logic ? Its a Post Truth Era where they do EXACTLY THAT Northern Well Dawkins et al think it is and so do the fanatics. BUT - this thing works by they being on TV therefore making programs and LYING quite openly as theres nothing to worry about same as when psychics do TV. Derren for instance can legally put up on a program the disclaimer. 'No stooge's or actors were used' then go right ahead and use stooges and actors because its not illegal and HE WILL because the network might charge him costs if the program doesn't make enough money. A rock band is in same debt if they cause a record co to lay out but not enough is made. Because its an entertainment program thats also stated outright its illusionist & hes to state that his 'no stooges' then do it as part of that NO Problem. So Derrens gimmick was be debunker - a role he presented brilliantly. But then FAKE how he catches out his X Y Z KOOKS. Typical instances like stating he can illusionist mind power to cause atheists to convert. Brown sets it up where he is supposed to be a special powers preacher who can cause instant religious devotion in atheists - he claims that this proves anyone can do it ( meaning hes debunked something ) In this program hes has them fainting and converting on the spot blah blah blah. THE TROUBLE IS THEY ARE ALL ACTORS AND THE ENTIRE THING IS STAGE MANAGED. And so this Derren Brown thing is a kind of debink kook then move in and hustle their action in their action place type of scam. EXCEPT its ENTERTAINMENT and he can do what he likes so long as everyone is consenting and his people are because they get PAID !! DAWKINS ? - the same with Dawkins because hes under no real obligation to seek any truth and he doesn't hes an ENTERTAINER. That makes you a religious entertainers stooge but an unpaid minion grade type whose entitled to demand unions rates of pay from him MORALLY. Isn't Dawkins just such a georgeous moral dynamo !@! Dawkins stated and described his mission and then it was carried out i.e HAPPENED NORTHERN !! I mean you've even got Dawkinsian Cartoonous Quotation disease - the condition that makes people think just a childish cartoonist analogy alone proves everyone wrong! Because you are a religious fanatic that does know that because ? -DAWKINS TOLD YOU SO - . Part of the religion HE was able to set forth has a belief that there is no religion without a GOD. Don't you notice something strange about that NORTHERN ? At the same time new atheism claims there are no GODS it = its HUMANS doing the religious attraction right. I believe new atheism in that way yes there are no gods it IS HUMANS AND YOUR RELIGIOUS LEADER IS RICHARD DAWKINS! Religion just means believing something is vital & must thus be done evangelically along with a lot of other people. ( new atheism to a tee ) You copy Dawkins Ideas and take his issues to people like he YOUR MASTER instructed you to thats why your clone his habit of making up silly cartoons. Dry your eyes mate there hundreds of thousands of you Dawkins nutters globally I see you watch Grayling videos. With respect Grayling claims he did a complete search of the universe using metaphysics and confirmed no god was there i.e did psychic remote viewing and just the special powers of his mind. I doubt there is too but not because i can search infinity by psychic energy & you think this is being sensible ?
How to explain the small differences between a fish and a human due to evolution? When someone is born they have the face of a baby, when they are sixty years old they have the face of a sixty year old and they are clearly different faces. There was never a point at which a clear change took place from one face to the next but the face has clearly changed over time. So when someone says you can't see evolution you can point out you can't see a baby aging but is happening, it happens.
That’s the best Richard Dawkins interview Iv ever seen😂 his answers were so short that u panicked and asked him the everyday questions everyone has, keep it up 👍🏼
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@@AndrewGold1Isn't this the same interview that I have seen as an Edgehog? 😅 I think so, I liked it a lot. Good thing you've put it here at Heretics aswell though, ppl should see this 🤗
I can be a lady if I want to!! It’s my right as a man!
@@dustylong It is the same interview. Worth seeing again, and this is the better channel for it, as you say.
I’ll say it again. Look for an expert in pollutant caused gender dysphoria. Stop just talking to people who say the same thing and who are ignorant of these studies. For the sake of truth.
One of the things I really appreciate about Dawkins is how restrained he is when he doesn't have a firm opinion about something, or doesn't know a lot about it. I understand that can be frustrating for an interviewer, but the lack of bloviating is so honest and refreshing. He's a man who knows a lot about some things, but is perfectly comfortable saying "I don't know", when he doesn't.
Not easy for an interviewer though! I run out of things to say! :D
@@andrewgoldheretics I think there are a fair number of chatty podcast/er guest types (the usual suspects 🙂) who,if they were honest with themselves and their audience, could probably cut down on the verbiage quite a lot - but that's not as entertaining.
@@andrewgoldhereticsI think it’s fine with people like Dawkins who speak less to allow some awkward silences while you collect your thoughts like Lex Friedman. I appreciate that you don’t *always* do that, and that you keep the conversation flowing and moving. But we’ll be patient through some awkward silences! :) I think Dawkins also has some long silent pauses between questions during his own interviews while he processes or thinking about what to say next.
@@andrewgoldheretics I think you asked Richard some really interesting questions and I am happy to have been around for the answers
Have you seen his demonstration on how the eyeball evolved?
He spews nonsensical pseudoscience trying to explain the evolution of vision, hes a total God hater and believes in actual magic.
Brilliant quote! 😆
"I think Piers Morgan is a fool, I'm not much interested in what he believes, actually."
- Richard Dawkins -
a thing everyone already knew
I did not know Richard disliked Piers that much - I thought they were casual friends tbh
I don't believe that Piers Morgan is a fool, but it is a demographic he very profitably plays to.
@@pollyparrot9447 I understand that natural skepticism but in areas like this I tend to be guided by the experts on the subject, after all Dawkins has first-hand experience.
@@Jacam781 First hand experience of Piers Morgan's foolishness? To be fair to Morgan, most of us look foolish in comparison with Dawkins 😁
While I am happily identifying as a tall and handsome man, some uneducated ruffian called me a fat, short arsed ginger wanker yesterday. It's most perplexing!
😂😂
Just identify yourself as someone that everyone identifies as tall handsome and rich. Very simple
What a bigot. I hope you had him arrested and his life ruined for mis-identifying you.
I feel your pain 😂😊
Hi Mick....are you reforming Simply Red any time soon?
Its refreshing how humble Dawkins is. When he says "I dont know enough about physics to talk about that" its funny because I bet he knows much more about physics than the complete layman and if he had massive ego he could talk around the subject and say some key phrases and have people thinking he does in fact know a lot about physics or was even an expert. But he simply doesnt blow smoke and fake it like he easily could. Its a rare quality these days to not want to have the "expert opinion" and be seen as the smartest man in the room.
And then you have people like Trump who acts like he's an expert in everything. A 10 year old Dawkins knew more about everything than Trump has "learned" into his 70s.
Yeah, can you put a timestamp with a long commen that might be interesting? Otherwise, some readers just can’t make progress.
Plus I am certain I do know enough physics to evaluate, but I don’t have all day.
@@magnetiktraxyour comment is contradicted by reality. You probably think he said to 💉 bleach?
I suppose that’s good for you, as starting with facts that are contradicted by reality can logically lead to beliefs that are.
Dawky once came to talk to us at my university to debate religion at the Cambridge Union.
Despite the fact that he was comprehensively demolished by the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Williams, he spoke very well.
Afterwards he was signing copies of his book _The Greatest Show On Earth._
I said "Can you address it to my mum Marie please? She's a churchgoer but she likes your stuff." Which was true.
Dawky didn't seem very pleased, but politely signed the book anyway.
@@splinterbyrd Demolished by somebody who uses their "faith" as an argument? Lol hardly.
About the fear of dying: I always find consolation in the thought that i am a ring in the chain of life. I was born, received life, love, education, and during my life i give back to the next generation. I think this is the real meaning, and it's good enough for me.
its a strange one.
We dont know anything before we were born, and we seem to know nothing about after we were born. Who's to say 'we' wont happen again. in this amazing universe of life :)
I'm not afraid of dying.
I'm afraid of being eternal.
What can you do that will occupy you for eternity? When you've done everything that you can do and experienced everything that can be experienced eternity is still going to continue forever.
It sounds hellish.
My lack of fear of dying sort of plays off of yours. I’ve come to realize that at 51 years old, I’ve lived longer than many before me (my mom died at 51 and I’m now older than she was), and I’m thankful for that. Sure, I hope to “leave my mark” in some way, but to be honest, I’m happy to have made it this long and if tomorrow were my last day, I’d “be good” with the excess life so many never had a chance to experience. 🤷🏻♂️
Sad. But good for you, I suppose.
" Those who can make you believe absurdities ; can make you commit atrocities " ----- Voltaire
Like the Bible
Like humane slaughter
@@doctorfunkshock No, you cannot maintain a just and flourishing culture without the belief in Jesus. Atheism and the belief in false gods gives rise to the state without restraint. History is replete with examples like communist China and Nazi Germany in modern times. The atrocities in the 20th century are unsurpassed - a century marked by the west abandoning its Christian heritage and embedding other beliefs like secularism and eastern mysticism. Christianity, whether you like it or not, and for all its mistakes, is the mother of western civilisation and gave us hospitals, universities, the end of slavery, beautiful art, music and architecture. No society can reap the blessings of Christianity, while continuing to deride it and embrace affluence and the worship of the sovereign self as their gods. Richard Dawkins for decades openly mocked Christians and called for other atheists to mock them and their God. God is not mocked, He is judging the west : "Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the Lord and against his anointed, saying, “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them." Psalm 2 verses 1 and 2. I grieve over what has been lost including the ability to reason, which is best seen in transgender ideology and the brutality it results in especially on confused children's bodies.
Only if you are a follower? @ unconscious mind!
“Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle
'Man got to tell himself he doesn't understand' might be better. 😂
I think there’s an important thing often missed when discussing fear of death. I think many people are more afraid of how they’ll die, not of being dead.
I also fear the pain my loved ones will feel when I die. But of course, I can only find that upsetting whilst I'm still alive...when they aren't actually in pain...because I'm not dead yet.😂
Yes very astute and so true.
People like dawkins who design thought crimes against christians merely as a stepping stone to designing a totalitarian removal of all free speech do not care about anything & cannot sense shame.
yes
I agree: after you die you are beyond harm. Before you die is when you can still suffer.
@@markwalding8205Also they may not be as upset about it as you may fear. People take deaths in very interesting ways, I've found.
"With Christianity, we feel home." - Richard Dawkins. We are praying you open the door. You have no idea how many people are praying. God bless and keep you❤❤❤
So wonderful to see Richard healthy and sharp! And talking good sense, as always!!
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
but they talk of Christopher Hitchens as still alive, so this must be an old interview
@@josepholeary3286They didn't as far as I recall, having just watched it? Great, now my short term memory is going...
You're sure you're not confusing a mention of Peter Hitchens or something?
It's not death, itself, that is frightening. It is the business of dying - the pain, the sad ending of being alive and, in many case, the loss of dignity.
my thoughts too
The so-called "loss of dignity" is a social problem related to demands that people be independent - able to look after themselves without needing help from other people - able to feed themselves, clothe themselves, use the toilet, and so on - all things that diminish as people become older, or become ill, and things that many disabled people have to live with all their lives. In short, the problem is a society that values selfish individualism over social support, and which harbours nasty prejudices regarding disability, illness, and old age. The result of this social problem is the rise of a death cult - typified by the organisation Dignity in Dying - which actively promotes the killing of people rather than caring for them and solving the social problems and mental health problems that lead people to consider their lives to be "undignified".
@@omp199 What you seem to be saying is because disabled people have no choice but to put up with the indignity of other people having to feed them, clean them, toilet them and so on, previously able-bodied people who find themselves unable to look after themselves should be obliged to endure the same indignity,
I’m not a disabled person and I have no concept of what it feels like to be a disabled person. But a disabled person should have the same rights over their body as I have over mine. Most disabled people, as far as I can tell, decide that life is so precious that they are prepared to accept the indignities that are a part of their living experience. I understand that.
‘Dignity in dying’ does not promote the killing of people. That is nonsense. In a civilised society, the individual should have sovereignty over their own body whether they are able-bodied or disabled. Dignity in dying simply puts the case that when an individual no longer thinks that life is worth living, then they should have the right to bring it to an end. The reasons why a particular person makes that judgement will depend on his or her own previous experiences and it is not up to other well-meaning people to make that judgement for them.
Many people, especially as they become elderly, do not wish to accept the indignities that disabled people experience throughout their lives. They don’t want other people looking after them. It has nothing to do with social problems or mental health problems. People have to experience these indignities if they are in hospital having an operation. The difference is that people, at the end of their lives, know that their condition is going to get steadily worse and that they would rather have their life ended before that happens. It is a perfectly rational decision to make.
I’m in my late seventies and I love life but I don’t know how I’ll feel in ten or twenty-year’s time, if I’m still alive. I may decide to carry on to the very end or I may decide to call it a day and have my life ended for me. But whatever I decide, it will be my decision and not someone else’s.
@@davidclifford5124 No, I am not saying "disabled people have no choice but to put up with the indignity of other people having to feed them, clean them, toilet them and so on". Don't put words in my mouth, especially when I was quite clearly distancing myself from the disgusting view that you are pretending I am espousing.
What I am saying is that there is nothing "undignified" about having support with feeding, cleaning, toileting, and so on. Not only are those things not "undignified", they are positively *good things:* they are demonstrations of a decent, caring, supportive society, which is what we should all want.
If you call those things "undignified" then you are the problem: you are making people who are old, ill, and disabled feel that they should not be asking for help with the things that we non-disabled people take for granted. You are demeaning those people and trying to make them feel like they are a burden to others. You are using disablist rhetoric to push for the killing of those people. You are no better than those who use racist rhetoric to excuse the killing of minority ethnic people, or who use sexist rhetoric to excuse the killing of women.
@@omp199 I’m not putting words in your mouth. You talk about ‘selfish individualism over social support’ and ‘nasty prejudices regarding disability’. You’re the one who raised the issue of disability, not me. My view, whether you like it or not, is that having to be fed, cleaned and toileted is undignified. Whether disabled people think it undignified is their business.
Of course, providing support for people who, for whatever reason, are unable to support themselves is a demonstration of a decent, caring and supportive society. Nobody is arguing against that. Neither am I demeaning the people who try to make them feel valued and not a burden. But you seem to take the view that people have some sort of duty to accept that support. I wouldn’t want to and I don’t care what you think about it.
As far as your final two sentences are concerned, they are beneath contempt.
You really keep the conversation moving, which is quite a challenge with Richard, who tends to respond often curtly. A lively and interesting exchange. Thank you, Andrew.
Maybe asking open questions rather than closed questions would invite answers beyond yes or no.
Richard is a racist skunk! 🦨
Dawkins is probably weary at the stupidity of some. I detect some disgust with you. Nice backhanded slap there Tony rose.
@@peterbraham8657totally agree!!! Basic interview techniques
Thats only because he has skeletons in the cupboard from Hell thats hes finding increasingly hard to dodge around without that seeming suspicious seeing as hes going on shows. Dawkins designed the thought crimes that were oppressing christians only at first. Not for long - his evil rogue designs were always going to do more to the people at large - like ALL PEOPLE NOT JUST RELIGIOUS ONES. Thus lead to the essentialist metaphysics that have resulted in misgendering thought crime and the shutting down of everyones free speech.
Make no mistake though there were no thought crimes until dawkins et al began there campaigns.
I think the actors, especially, who profited so strongly from J.K.R.'s characters and then turned against her speaks volumes against them. They miss her point, entirely, and are nowhere near the caliber of person they played.
We're all a composite of male and female characteristics. That doesn't mean we're in the wrong bodies. It just means that we have traits of both sexes within us. Boys liking purple and girls liking trucks is perfectly normal.
I like purple trucks.
Not The Nine O'Clock News would heartily agree with you 😁 (I Like Trucking)
We are living in an age of complete stupidity. Denying reality for a delusion.
Rather the age where stupidity got a broad audience. People were always stupid.
Mr. Dawkins is a great extraordinary scientist and human being.
Dawkins is a good scientist and an excellent writer, but he is certainly not a good human being. He publicly sides with Israel even as it mass-murders children.
Except the antitrans stuff. He is wrong there but I am guessing its mainly the culture he grew up in.
@@northernlight8857 I don't see how it's 'anti trans' to say that a man may feel like a woman but the mental exercise of wishing that his body were also female doesn't change their biological sex. It's wishful thinking.
@@l.binjam1053 The problem is that transpeople don't say that. It's a strawman and unprecise use of language. They don't talk about biological sex at all. No one is claiming to change their chromosomes. There is a difference between sex and gender And definitionaly there is a difference between sex and biological sex. And parts of biological sex is changeable. Hormons and surgery can make biological and physical changes. Not to the degree as having a certain spec of chromosomes does, but there is a lot of things humans does that isnt "the natural thing". Having a pacemaker, operating cleft palates, circumcisions, blood pressure medicines, insulin, color our hair, use glasses/lasic surgery and the list goes on.
@@northernlight8857He’s not wrong there either. We’re anti-delusion. Call us transphobes, we don’t care.
The sense of guilt demanded of white people for slavery is weird considering that slavery in one way or another has been almost universal and especially considering that the slavery that was ongoing outside the "white" world long before transatlantic slave trade is still going on.
The argument (worth hearing) is that ending intergenerational poverty requires investment. ‘Reparations’ in that sense, makes some sense.
@@mynewcolour
Absolutely. Investments such as affordable education and universal health insurance.
@@mademoiselledusfonctionell1609 Yes.
Also the people that outlawed it and enforced it worldwide. The UK paid for the freedom of all slaves in Africa and the debt wasnt fully paid off until a few years ago.
the word 'slav' comes from slaves. unfortunately the arabs came and enslaved the now called slavic peoples.
ppl in europe have been slaving each other CENTURIES before they knew africa existed.
they got there and found the africans had their own thriving slave trade.
but no, only one race of ppl have ever suffered
It has become taboo to simply tell the truth
It is scary.
I can hurt someones feely 😬
1984
@@shughy1 No it has not. That is a lie.
@@northernlight8857 your statement is a lie
Dawkins is saying almost exactly what I've been saying all my life.
I want to life forever, so I can see what fascinating things comes next.
I guess you'd reconsider if you'd be forced to watch the news every day for 5 minutes
A wee man came to my door ....and the first words out of his mouth was ' do you know where your going after you die ? My answer was ' your question is irrelevant to me , when I expire that's it , nothing , zilch and goodbye , don't come back ' . I didn't tell him I was one of the 53 per cent of British citizens who happen to be non-religious .
A true gentleman. Thank you for your huge intellect sir .
Why does such stupid irresponsible misanthropic evil constitute 'huge intellect' ? Dawkins modelled the first thought crimes since the witch trials, first shutting down Christian worship in public ( they get arrested now ) - only for the same models to move onto SHUTTING DOWN EVERYONES FREE SPEECH.
I cannot understand how so many people fail to observe he did this.
Richard Dawkins is a decent and honest man, if he does not know, he won't pretend to know. What he knows as a scientist and biologist is via education and is factual, he believes in nothing, only knows what he knows. I admire him, he is a righteous person.
How does a person believe in nothing?
He's been told multiple times, from specialists in their fields that his views on gender are scientifically wrong. Yet continues to peddle this willfull ignorance
@@michaelricketson1365 What is ment is believing in the sense of "believing in something without any evidence". Faith is another word for it. If you have evidence, than you know or have trust in it or assume it's right based on some evidence.
@@DavidGraeberWasRightI rather suspect he's been told that publicly by some specialists, but other specialists equally qualified in that field, have privately told him, "Don't listen to them Richard, you're fine."
@@Mallarkey care to pluck any more speculation right out of your ass? I can cite studies left and right also, can you?
Mr Dawkins is pure class. A man who has spent his entire life in the search of honest truth. Very few people can be awarded that badge of honour.
He's a homophobe.
He has taken the knowledge and run with it
Much of what he’s spent is life advocating for, i.e., the dissolution of religion, including English Anglicanism, is precisely what has enabled these bizarre and subversive neo-Marxist ideologies to flourish in its vacuum 🤷♂️
And be so humble…
Indeed. In search of knowledge. And he doesn't preach. Vast knowledge and a life in education, extremely humble. And hes happy to share his knowledge with us all. Such an eminent man. I put him in the same esteemed category as: Einstein, Asimov, Sagan, Clarke etc. If only the human race consisted of these vast intellects who educate us all and impart knowledge/factual information (instead of the crazy irrational religious types who remain forever deluded in their ignorance). Needless to say I'm an educated Humanist.
The thing where Peterson elevates his language is called code switching by linguists. We all do it, and it’s a linguistic skill we all need to communicate effectively. We should pitch our language appropriately for the audience or interlocutors. Where it might be a problem, is if it is perceived someone is doing it manipulatively, for example when politicians like Tony Blair or George Osborne famously used Estuary English pronunciation while talking to factory workers, it was perceiving as a bit fake, they couldn’t quite pull it off. It’s possible that what you pick up from Peterson is some kind of ‘pissing contest,’ behaviour, where he’s trying to make himself sound more interesting than perceptive intellectual rivals. But to be fair, maybe he’s just pitching his language differently for Fry and Dawkins. Maybe he admires them as equally smart, and enjoys speaking to his perceived peers, or maybe he’s insecure and needs to show off. But these are all maybes. You’d have to ask him.
Atheism has nothing to do with being macho. I'm a female atheist. I agree with Richard Dawkins' statement about Piers Morgan being a fool. I see religion as showing the extent of human egoism.
I don't think there is anything wrong with religion in general. It's just the people who always ruin everything.
The Bible contains great information about how to conduct yourself in the world to get the most out of life without hurting others. What do people make of it? "I need to kill you because you said something about the Bible that I interpreted differently". That's not the fault of the Bible.
So why are atheists so smugly sanctimonious and obnoxious? I'm not religious btw... i just find it incredibly arrogant how anyone can just judge millions of people as idiots or egotists....
religion is entirely anthropocentric
Atheists just want to emphasize the negative views to justify their stance. Religion is tainted in many ways by many kinds of human characteristics. Egoism by itself isn't bad. Many or even most who appear or try to appear to be altruistic do this of very egoistic motives.
@@MP-uz9xihuman egoism and anthropocentrism aren’t necessarily related
I really admire Richard Dawkins. He speaks the truth and bravely combats delusion. As someone else said, if he doesn’t have a firm opinion or definite knowledge about something, he doesn’t bullshit and say something just for the sake of it.
Who is going to combat his delusion? That is: science belongs to all mankind. A quaint belief that is completely contradicted by observation.
He's fallen for the homophobe delusion.
I'd agree with one exception; his debate with Mehdi Hassan when he refused to stand by his own assertion that indoctrinating children into religions is a form of child abuse. It was cowardly.
@@DrDeuteron how is science quaint or a belief? What observation contradicts science?
@@bladewed you mean the same Mehdi Hassan who conceded that he believes that Mohammed ascended to heaven on a winged horse? Was it that same interview?
OMG Andrew. I'm only halfway through, but you're asking him all the things I've always wanted to. You're a fearless interviewer.
Love to hear that!!
Perfect wording there "fearless interview"
What 😂😂😂😂
Come on. he can't get his head around evolution.
He’s been asked the same questions many times before 😳🙄🙄
I do not know who i admire the most on this interview, Richard Dawkings or the interviewer. What a great set of skills the interviewer has. This was a remarkable interview. New subscriber here.
My god, the politeness and patience that he had with answering some of those questions 😅
I love Richard Dawkins... Have read all his books.. Man is an absolute legend and I must say Andrew is starting to gain that status in my mind... I listen to this pod in work and really love how open minded and reasonable Andrew is... It's such a breath of fresh air in this world of narratives.... Appreciate what you do Andrew... Keep it up 💙🙌
I love this new channel you’ve made, bravo Andrew.
Welcome aboard!
I second that. Love it!
So many wonderful topics discussed. I love to hear Richard Dawkins speak on these topics. The interview is a treasure to listen to, both Andrew Gold and Richard Dawkins.
Aw thanks so much Noel !!
This is not a lie: people need hope, people need to know they are valuable, people need to know they are loved. If this is true then it makes perfect sense that God came in human form as Jesus to bring hope, comfort and love.
It IS rational to see that the human condition needs hope to sustain it.
He's an absolute treasure. Long may Dawkins continue.
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
Love the interview. Richard Dawkins is just incredible. One of my heroes. Thanks for the great interview Andrew. ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Just a factual point to clear up about JK Rowling. Because she actually confirmed that her books were based on the New Testament!
The fact is that when Harry Potter visits his parents' graves in Chapter 16 of "Deathly Hallows," titled "Godric's Hollow." On his parents' tombstone Harry reads the quote "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death," while on another tombstone (that of Dumbledore's mother and sister) he reads, "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." While Rowling said that "Hogwarts is a multifaith school," these quotes, of course, speak for themselves. The second is a direct quote of Jesus from Matthew 6:19, the first quote is from 1 Corinthians 15:26.
Rowling told reporters during a press conference at the beginning of one of her Open Book Tours. It wasn't because she was afraid of inserting religion into a children's story. Rather, she was afraid that introducing religion (specifically Christianity) would give too much away to fans who might then see the parallels. According to Rowling…
"To me [the religious parallels have] always been obvious," she said. "But I never wanted to talk too openly about it because I thought it might show people who just wanted the story where we were going."(J.K. Rowling).
Indeed, at its most simplistic, Harry's final tale can in some respects be boiled down to a resurrection story, with Harry venturing to a heavenly way station of sorts after getting hit with a killing curse in Chapter 35, only to shortly return.
JK Rowling even describes herself as Christian!
@@georgedoyle2487So you accuse JK Rowling for having lack of fantasy and plagiarism? I can't see anything positive with this information..... only that everyone borrows from already existing media so much they can....
I enjoyed a supremely close relationship with my father. I was his favorite person and he was basically mine. I lost him two years ago to a long journey with cancer. As a Christian, I relate to what Dawkins is saying about "missing". My father said when he was dying "to live is Christ and to die is gain ". I hurt for his pain and suffering and my grief is a mix of sadness bc of the man I miss but I receive more joy that he is where he belongs. I have experienced true peace because of my faith. I still think of how I miss him and the comfort and friendship I had in him but that comes as a brief wave and leaves as soon as it came. He was a wonderful father and should, by God's grace, live exactly where he is.
You remind me of a 1950s woman. 🙂 and that's a good thing by the way.
The sad thing about faith is being asked to believe something without the slightest reason to believe that it is true.why would believers be asked to do that?because there have been 7,000 plus gods proposed by humans over time in hundreds of different languages and in hundreds of different countries.and there is not and never has been the slightest evidence that any of them are real.so used car salesman's tactics are used.'Believe because I told you 'the rational position to take is to withhold belief until a God is proven to exist.
@@clarkelaidlaw1678 Seeking comfort is not something to be derogatory about. As you said, believing in a deity(ies) is a human past time of long standing. No sense can be made of the void without something to hang on to. Presumably, your belief is it's all a massive coincidence. That's still a belief
@@MartinParsons-tr6wi ..ok.but surely it's better to hang on to something shown to be factual.
@@clarkelaidlaw1678 Fair comment Clarke. Factual yardsticks help us to guage what we can measure, but if we want to guage dimensions beyond our perception, perhaps a cerebral yardstick is a necessary requisite. You forced me to think about that one (!). Incidentally, I've seen Dawkins struggle with the idea of consciousness
Love Dawkins. One of the most honest humans on the planet.
I am not an atheist but I still greatly admire Dawkin’s intelligence and honesty.
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
That's really clever of you my friend
Why are you atheist? What’s the best reason you have to believe the claim a god is real?
Dawkins has a good intellect but has little intelligence. His worldview is atrocious; he praised the warmonger John McCain as a "good man", has "no sympathy for Julian Assange" and worse of all, stands with Israel even as it mass-murders children.
❤❤❤❤ your Canadian fan that was so informative. I wouldn’t even know where to start. Everything was said and I come here to learn and learn I did.
Its absolutely amazing you learned five languages through reading the Harry Potter series. It actually happens to have over a million words in English, and I've also read it to my son practicing voice acting. I love the content. Keep it coming. :)
A true gentleman and genius. Facts are hard to swallow but you ignore them at your peril.
Dawkins is a Legend of Our Time. Fantastic interview well done!!
If you ever doubted whether or not you had the mettle to be a good interviewer, this one has provided the answer! Dawkins, as interesting as he is, did not give you much material to work from within an 'action-reaction' type scenario. You did a fabulous job of keeping the conversation going that highlighted a part of Dawkins we don't often get to see - a contemplative but non-committal version of the galloping 'horseman' we've sometimes characterized him to be. Very well done, Andrew! Thoroughly enjoyed.
aw thanks so much!
Such rational discourse. I thought I came up with the idea that for approximately 4+ Billion years I was not alive and after I die it will be the same for me, all by myself. Perhaps I came up with this idea, independently or I heard/read it somewhere. This actually gives my comfort, nothing much to worry about. I heard this recently, dying is easy, the living after a loved one dies is hard.
Living after a loved one dies is totally fine. I suppose it depends on your viewpoint.
Always a pleasure to listen to Richard Dawkins. 👍
yes to confirm your ear wax is finally out of your ear and can hear properly again ,true good point you make.
A very refreshing interview, lots of respect and great to see Richard in good health!
Except of course he believes that anyone who voted for brexit (that's a term i have come to hate) is actually not intelligent enough to be ALLOWED to vote on such a matter. He firmly believes that "the Plebs" (ordinary folk) shouldn't have been allowed to vote in the first place, let alone listened too. He's just a well educated snob, who "knows better" how the people should have voted. Like all snobs in this country seem to think.
With that one idea of "obvious" superiority of his, he lost ALL credability in my eyes, long ago.
Dawkins' belief in science and the wonderfulness of the natural world is quite a profound belief system in itself. I'm excited about his podcast based on the title ("The Poetry of Reality") - because I agree, what is is quite beautiful.
The reason why David can recall quotations from memory is because, during his formative education, it was required that you could call to mind and accurately repeat large amounts of quotations from literature.
You mean Richard?
Interesting. You should share that with him since that's not what he said.
You mean Rodney?
@@orbojunglistlol..
And it's a waste of time. You should not try to remember things you can look up.
It is nice to hear your English voice and what you say when I am living in America and miss my own kind of people, Andrew. I love to listen to you all the time.
Andrew, discovering your channel has made my day and thank you! You bring the faith in humanity with your absolutely brilliant interviews 👏👏👏
Food for the brain! Thank you for making this and putting it out there. I just love things that make you think.
A member of my church just passed away. He was one of our elders. We are all very sad because we miss him and we miss the loss of him. We are not sad that he is moving on to a better life. That is how most Christians feel.
That’s perfectly understandable. As an atheist, I never understood why one would use that rather weak argument, and frankly I’m a bit disappointed that Dawkins struggles to understand it. It’s only natural for a person who has built a bond or relationship with another human to be sad that this person is no longer part of their world. There is a similar thing that I’ve experienced that seems baffling to me. I’ve known Christians that were on deaths door and spoke of how frightened they were of dying and did absolutely anything they could do to prolong their lives despite having diabetes, amputations and a myriad of other ailments. Seems to me that after spending a lifetime quoting the bible that they would be a bit more willing to go to this place.
Dawkins was just using one of he cheap throw-away lines, typical of his type of athesist. Athesists can be and often are among the nicest people one could meet, but Richard Dawkins isent one of them.
I - as Richard Dawkins - struggle to understand, why the belief in a delusion shall make you feel happy. I do not feel sad for the person, who just passed away. I am sorry for those who lost a loved one. I understand their pain, but I am confident that the one who died does not feel any discomfort.
Well... There's nuance there. Dawkins is saying most Westerners don't seem certain people who've passed are away at a better life: that grief shouldn't manifest in the way it does if it's merely separation anxiety (I.e. 'I buried the love of my life today at age 85, but I can't feel too bad because I'll see him in a couple years, and he's in eternal bliss now anyway', is rarely the attitude that's on display when that happens.) If you believe you are *certain*.
@@dante6985 You can be absolutely certain that you will see your loved one someday and Still miss their currently absent presence. Both things are possible at once. Sorry to burst your bubble.
He is looking good for 82!!
Fascinating. Enjoyed it.
Love the channel… always good to see more discussions with Dawkins.
I never met anyone who has been to heaven and come back to review his visit.
Randy Kay has a TH-cam channel where he interviews people who have been to heaven and returned.
Very enjoyable and its obvious Dawkins is not an easy interviewee, so well done.
Hes a gr8 interviewee , just have to ask him relevant ?’s to him, so well done for him for being him, alas interviewer was hunting for scandle… every ? He asked, host didn’t know 🙄
It was a very very poor interview
I think that's a bit unfair, the two just have different styles of conversation
@@geoffwarner8021 idk dude the guy asked for thoughts on a totally non-controversial philosophical question about becoming a clone to go to Mars and Dawkins demanded further notice of that question.
Dawkins expressed his interest in this thought experiment, so it was definitely relevant.
Dawkins is smart but he's kind of a prick too. You can be both, nobody is a perfect person.
His podcast will probably suck cock if he's this bad at casual conversation.
Brilliant interview thank you both.
New listener/watcher here. You're absolutely fantastic, Andrew. The questions you ask and the insight you get out of your guests is incredible. I watch a lot of Dawkins and he normally tires easily of interviewers if there isn't any substance to the interviewer and their questions. He really engages with you and that speak volumes about your ability as an interviewer.
Two of my favorite people in conversation!
Somebody stands up and says, "I'm a woman because I say I'm a woman". Yes, that's an informed understanding about what happens ever (roll eyes). Trans women know they're not cis women. Why are you two talking about this? You're not trans. Why would Andrew encourage RD's ignorance and bigotry on this subject? If you want to call something insane, how about RD and Gold being incapable of understanding that not everyone fits into their gender definitions and calling people insane on that basis is the ugliest of humanity. RD's bigotry spoken in a soft voice is still bigotry. While he's at it, he should shut the eff up about anyi-black racism. He doesn't have a clue.
Imagine if the mainstream media was like this. Great minds discussing interesting things. Instead of vacuous reality tv and divisive politics, with blubbering idiots.
It'd never happen! Thanks for watching :)
Excellent interview... Subscribed! Hope you get Stephen Fry in for a chat! Well Done! 👍
You must be beyond honored to interview Dawkins!
I'm very pleased to have discovered your channel. An excellent interview. Subscribed.
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
For once someone agrees with my view that gender identity ideology is conservative in it's reliance on stereotypes of masculinity and femininity. Thank you Andrew Gold! Also an excellent, fascinating interview.
@joannayung4578, if this is the first time you've heard that myth, then you are as uninformed as Dawkins is. Let me guess, you're not trans.
What would you call the government of I R A N? They are so homophobic that they compel gay men to have the surgeries and take the hormones. This'll be a pro-conservative issue at the drop of a bribe oh I mean a hat
@@JessBlake2 Can you define a woman without invoking narrow, dated stereotypical notions of how a woman should look and behave?
@@manchegocheese997adult human female
You hit the nail on the head, Gender Identity(TM) is actually Regressive, not Progressive
Just brilliant. Intelligent respectful discourse. Thank you both.
Great discussion, and good to see some good old fashioned commonsense, which is becoming very uncommon in our rush to embrace the new woke religion.
I highly recommend John McWhorter’s excellent book: Woke Racism- How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.
This was a brilliant session- thanks for having this guest.
I loved this exchange so much! Andrew's got this child like attitude with his excited questions, to which Dawkins responds with the kindly, patient professor role. What a joy to watch!
Edited to correct...I used the wrong "to"!! What a faux pas!!
Yes you’ve captured the interaction so accurately. It made the interview engaging
2 late
That was interesting. Just what my brain needed today. 😊
I'm so glad!
Hugh Grant and Dawkins in conversation...what a treat.
ha!
😂😂😂😂
I learned a lot how to be polite and modest without giving up one's true thoughts of something to talk from Mr. Dawkins.
This is the most interesting thing I've watched online for a while. You deffo got a new follower and looking forward to watching you're other interviews.
You're a very good interviewer Mr. Gold. Pure gold. 😆 Thank you for bringing in a man I admire deeply. I'm so glad to see Mr. Dawkins' mind is still sharp and brilliant. I'll definitely keep an eye on your channel for enjoyable and enlightening interviews. Cheers!
Richard Dawkins thinking is steeped in logic and science and does not seek to curry favour from his paymasters by obfuscating an argument in the form of say, Jungian Archetypes or any other word salad as some other pseudo web intellectuals do, or by parroting the woke dogmas du jour to gain social posturing brownie points and avoid cancellation. The man is fearless and I fully respect him for that.
Excellent comment, friend. Very articulate and insightful.
Thank you very much for this. This interview is just so respectful, interesting and entertaining. Great Interviewer.. Richard Dawkins is most brillant of course.
I worked out the Darwin theory on my own as a kid in school. It just seemed so natural that things evolve according to their habitat, health and predators. Of course no species just suddenly appeared.
I'm an atheist because I have never seen/heard of one piece of evidence that there is a god. Simply it is therefore impossible for me to imagine there is a god let alone pray to one.
My train of exactly, loving nature enables me to see real life and death. Its comes and i goes, as we all do x
"Physicists say the Physical Constants are fine-tuned for Life".- Dawkins. We have observable evidence for one universe fine-tuned for Life. That, to me, suggests an Intelligence behind the formation of the universe.
It is one theory, only an improbable theory. Contingence is perhaps more cogent. The "Rare Earth" theory is interesting. That "Inteligence" behind is just wishful thinking.
Dawkins, always a pure delight. Gold, a bit simple, but nice to look at. Comments: STATUS is not a human need; speaking differently to different people is called REGISTER; “Is it dangerous?” Have you not been paying attention? WOMEN and GIRLS are endangered by this ideology;
It’s 1am and my brain hurts but I really enjoyed this!
I've seen many interviews with Richard Dawkins but my two favourite ones have been on your podcast - this one and the one you did previously on your other channel. I know you've mentioned that you found this interview quite hard going because he gave short answers but you actually respond and react so naturally you bring out warmth and humour in this discussion. This was so enjoyable, I loved it. I would be interested to see you interview Neil deGrasse Tyson - many have tried but they cant get past his prickliness and he's hard to like (i'm yet to warm to him) - i wonder if you can crack him.
Haha! The baboon question 37:15 - made me laugh!
Aw thank you! I need to do batches of episodes in the States at some point so will try him but I agree with you, he seems just too impossible to talk to.
@@andrewgoldheretics I'd also love to see you interview Neil deGrasse Tyson, but yeah what mazoomska said - you need to be very prepared to be able to interview him successfully (?lol). However, I'd add that I seem to have noticed Tyson can be a great interviewee if he likes you, and he likes intelligent people, which you certainly are. So don't be discouraged. I think it would be awesome. 😉 Cheers!
Thank God for Richard Dawkins LOL
hallelujah
@@skdfdjkdfjkd Amen brother gobless
Well the Devil must thank thank him LOL
"Are there aspects of our brains that are male or female?"
"Probably, I don't know much about it."
What genius!
Hmmm the man who purports that we came from apes and studies evolution, but cannot answer that question? It means he WILL NOT get into discussion of that question, OR he knows full well it always narrows to two genders, and anything else is anomaly ... so why not have a more research and intelligent answer on this by this time? Curious if you ask me.
@patrickrobinson1935 Look up the Dutch research into the Bed Nucleus of the Stria Terminalis.
Hi Patrick Robinson, that’s a really really good point
Are there differences in children, adolescents, adults? The difference is hormones. They make the same brain work quite differently. There might be other things as well though.
I actually love all your interviews with Richard Dawkins. He is incredibly intelligent and great viewing. I feel like he has an affinity with you Andrew as an interviewer. I feel that Richard is the sort to not suffer fools gladly.
Congratulations to you also Andrew, it’s easy to get viewers on click bait items but Herectics is so good. Not everyone wants that, but I’m loving it. Even if I don’t know the topic, I will still press play on every episode/link.
Congratulations you
An interview where the interviewer has to talk more than the interviewee....well done for keeping it going Andrew.
This same question about what it would be like to die and be nothing ever after used to puzzle me for some time, but I solved it now. I recently had to undergo knee surgery under full anaesthetic and that experience showed me what death will be like. Here’s how I would describe the experience of full anaesthesia: I am lying on the bed and the anaesthesiologist says something to me. He says “I am administering the cocktail now you are done”. Only that the last few words, “you are done” were spoken not by him, but by a nurse in the recovery room. There was literally nothing between the two moments, not even the awareness of nothing. And that is what death is going to be like. Only you will not come to again afterwards. You may hear somebody say something and then - . Quite pleasant actually. If I ever had a fear of death, or an apprehensiveness of the moment of death, I lost it now. Nothing to be afraid of.
@@nelisklarenbeurger4630 well I sure agree with your last point 😀. It seems to me that my comment somehow rubbed you up the wrong way. Apologies if that should have been the case. I wish you well - kindest, Ralph.
Let’s also think about people who choose Medically Assistance in Dying. They get a sedative followed by a heart stopping chemical, and that’s it. Black out.
We've all experienced what it's like to die. It's the same feeling as that before we were born.
@@Puzzlesocks No “being dead” is the same feeling as “not being born”. Dying marks a transition from being alive to being dead. I guess it’s the same sensation as the transition from being conscious before the administration of anaesthetic to the state of mind after its administration.
@@ralphhebgen7067 It's effectively the same. If consciousness is acting like the skin of a drum, of which reality interacts with and the resonance of generates our experience, (a simplification but effectively accurate), then the time before birth and the time after death where you have no consciousness for reality to interact with is the same result. No amount of hitting the non-existent skin of the drum will make any noise.
Also it's rather rude to tell me no when you are just guessing at the answer. The implications of what we know of science and physics both lead itself towards my answer more than yours, because in your case it's not an elimination of consciousness but rather a temporary stifling of it. Your brain doesn't shut down and stop working just because you got a little sleepy gas. When you die, functions cease.
I love how well he resists gossiping about anyone
Ironic given that's what andrew is all about
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@@WillyJunior 😺
@@WillyJunior #MeowToo.
THAT is the understatement of all time !!
You are referring to a man that made christianity a thought crime & where that design in crime is now shutting down EVERYONES FREE SPEECH.
1 - First thought crimes since the Witch Trials
2 - Thought Crime designs are THE most malicious and evil type of gossip that can be inflicted.
3 - Ad Hominem against all humanity
4 - Dawkins has even mocked the dead with that.
What he has done could not affect more people nor be more evil.
= You could not be more wrong.
I hope he's right about "the first half of your life is spent writing your CV, and the second half writing your eulogy". That would mean, at 67, I haven't lived half my life yet!
I subscribed just because you got right to the conversation without a long redundant introduction
The thing Fry had said about swearing;
I read an article that said that swearing actually makes the brain lessen the pain.
Great episode Andrew. I haven’t thought about Saphir-Whorf since uni. This conversation gave me lots of ideas on something’s I have been working on. So thanks for the insights and inspiration. ❤
Loved this conversation ❤
I'm an atheist, I love being alive, I believe when I die that's gonna be it, and I can't help but admit I feel terrible about the fact that *I'm not gonna get to see the end of this movie!*
Unnecessary. God said in OT " Why die"
Dawkins is a National Treasure. He politely eviscerates everything, including you Andrew, with logic, composure, class, elegance, eloquence
and sophistication. He's like a fucking Leonardo Da Vinci for our times!
So where is his chopper, tank, flying, machine?
@@DrDeuteronwhere are da Vinci’s? 🤷🏻
So-called 'Gender Insanity' is a by-product of aggressive secularism, which the so-called 'preeminant evolutionary biologist' has consistently promoted in a very discriminatory way!!
The ‘Selfish gene’ is all of those and more.
Love it ❤
How did he remember that Quote from Bertrand Russell, WOW, he read it word for word? THe one that included the word scorn.
What a strange and sort of quirky conversation. It was really fun to watch Richard Dawkins in that environment. But what comes through is that both speakers seem to enjoy the fun of it. I enjoyed it too.
Welcome to Heretics, i hope it all feels that way
I am a spiritual person (Catholic) and found this conversation refreshing. Thank you both!
Me too
I don;t think Dawkins thinks you are allowed to have any opinions because you are a christian ands he had you shut you down. His thought crime models against christians mean you cannot worship in public because there LAWs against christians being christians out in the open being and thinking like christians and arrests are inevitable as you are expected to do it privately In fact Dawkins might class you even SAYING you are catholic as illegal ? I'm not sure - but definitely all it takes to be under arrest is to perform any kind of christian practice in public - wear a cross - carry a bible & don;t even think about saying a prayer even in mime - christians get nicked for that.
If this dawkinsian model don't stop you via religion they'll stop you anyway because you are a Human Being. The thought crimes new atheism et al designed are now SHUTTING DOWN ALL FREE SPEECH.
he's just a man. And the beliefs and opinions of Christians are just as valid, no one is shutting us down. It doesn't matter how big they think they are in their own brain. Doesn't matter how intellectual you are, we're all flawed and Christ paid our sins so we could be forgiven.@@cameroncameron2826
@@cameroncameron2826 You have an incorrect and irrational view of this. You sound like the dude screaming that Napoleon shot JFK.
@@northernlight8857 Theres no similarity Northern except for your new atheism religions use of a cartoonistic style of 'empirical statement' you expect to work ! But thats how the typical new atheist follower was taught isn't it ? just be a minion saying the same ridiculous stuff. Don't you feel as though your intelligence is being insulted every time Dawkins has stage management on standby for his silly '' Oh the faries at the bottom of garden with the Gnome & the spaggetti monster '' etc ? You don't know he had film crew & and agency staff entourage put up signs saying LAUGH & they's hahahahaha whoop!!!! whistle !!!! exactly as ordered or they'd not be paid etc etc etc etc etc ???
Are you people under his spell ? Because you are also debunking the same things he did on his enemies of reason series because Dawkins know that HE can debunk & then pull lucrative KOOK since nobody will suspect hes a clever confidence artiste himself Another example of this is with Derren Brown. His audience has been fooled to believe he doesn't pull dodgy stuff off because hes a debunker as well.
Debunkers cannot be debunked because they are debunkers therefore are immune from scrutiny is that your logic ?
Its a Post Truth Era where they do EXACTLY THAT Northern
Well Dawkins et al think it is and so do the fanatics. BUT - this thing works by they being on TV therefore making programs and LYING quite openly as theres nothing to worry about same as when psychics do TV. Derren for instance can legally put up on a program the disclaimer.
'No stooge's or actors were used' then go right ahead and use stooges and actors because its not illegal and HE WILL because the network might charge him costs if the program doesn't make enough money. A rock band is in same debt if they cause a record co to lay out but not enough is made. Because its an entertainment program thats also stated outright its illusionist & hes to state that his 'no stooges' then do it as part of that NO Problem. So Derrens gimmick was be debunker - a role he presented brilliantly. But then FAKE how he catches out his X Y Z KOOKS. Typical instances like stating he can illusionist mind power to cause atheists to convert. Brown sets it up where he is supposed to be a special powers preacher who can cause instant religious devotion in atheists - he claims that this proves anyone can do it ( meaning hes debunked something ) In this program hes has them fainting and converting on the spot blah blah blah.
THE TROUBLE IS THEY ARE ALL ACTORS AND THE ENTIRE THING IS STAGE MANAGED. And so this Derren Brown thing is a kind of debink kook then move in and hustle their action in their action place type of scam. EXCEPT its ENTERTAINMENT and he can do what he likes so long as everyone is consenting and his people are because they get PAID !! DAWKINS ? - the same with Dawkins because hes under no real obligation to seek any truth and he doesn't hes an ENTERTAINER.
That makes you a religious entertainers stooge but an unpaid minion grade type whose entitled to demand unions rates of pay from him MORALLY.
Isn't Dawkins just such a georgeous moral dynamo !@!
Dawkins stated and described his mission and then it was carried out i.e HAPPENED NORTHERN !! I mean you've even got Dawkinsian Cartoonous Quotation disease - the condition that makes people think just a childish cartoonist analogy alone proves everyone wrong! Because you are a religious fanatic that does know that because ? -DAWKINS TOLD YOU SO - . Part of the religion HE was able to set forth has a belief that there is no religion without a GOD. Don't you notice something strange about that NORTHERN ? At the same time new atheism claims there are no GODS it = its HUMANS doing the religious attraction right. I believe new atheism in that way yes there are no gods it IS HUMANS
AND YOUR RELIGIOUS LEADER IS RICHARD DAWKINS! Religion just means believing something is vital & must thus be done evangelically along with a lot of other people. ( new atheism to a tee ) You copy Dawkins Ideas and take his issues to people like he YOUR MASTER instructed you to thats why your clone his habit of making up silly cartoons.
Dry your eyes mate there hundreds of thousands of you Dawkins nutters globally
I see you watch Grayling videos. With respect Grayling claims he did a complete search of the universe using metaphysics and confirmed no god was there i.e did psychic remote viewing and just the special powers of his mind. I doubt there is too but not because i can search infinity by psychic energy & you think this is being sensible ?
How to explain the small differences between a fish and a human due to evolution? When someone is born they have the face of a baby, when they are sixty years old they have the face of a sixty year old and they are clearly different faces. There was never a point at which a clear change took place from one face to the next but the face has clearly changed over time. So when someone says you can't see evolution you can point out you can't see a baby aging but is happening, it happens.
Good stuff here guys - honest, humble, intellectual inquiry - thanks for the effort and sharing. ✌
That’s the best Richard Dawkins interview Iv ever seen😂 his answers were so short that u panicked and asked him the everyday questions everyone has, keep it up 👍🏼
haha i ran out of Qs! but that's my casual style. hope you enjoy the channel
Lovely interview x