Finally someone who's actually smart on here. There's too many people that are totally ok with not having a spare. They'll change their tune when they're stuck in the middle of nowhere in rough weather. It happened to me in the New Mexico desert in July out in bumfuck nowheresville....never again.
Roadside assistance is of no use if the car doesn’t have a spare tire. All they can do is call a tow truck to tow your vehicle to your preferred destination whether it’s the nearest tire shop, your home, or to the nearest motel/hotel. When you are driving long distance during long weekends/public holidays and the tire shops are closed, not having a spare tire will be a major headache even with roadside assistance.
I replaced my 14 year old compact spare with a full sized spare on my 2007 Saturn Ion. Salvage yard was my option, $40 steel rim + $30 used tire + $20 balance and install. Spare Jack is only $14 from my local salvage yard. No spare in my opinion is a bad choice as you may not even get a tow truck during bad weather and busy calls. The repair option with the can sealers is a time waster and will mess up the inside of the tire to the point no tech will work on it. A full size spare is the best option. 15 mins to change the tire and you are on your way.
It's crazy that they made a space for a full-size spare tyre, but they didn't provide one. As part of my job, I make custom foam inserts for all sorts of tools and other things. A couple of times I've made custom foam tyre surrounds to fit into people's boots (trunks), because there wasn't even a place for a spare wheel and tyre. Another time or two, I've done an extra layer of foam to raise the area beneath the matting in their boot/trunk, because the wheel well was only made for a narrow space-saver wheel. The extra height allowed them to put in a full-size wheel. They only had to raise the floor by about 5cm (2"). All the jobs came out really great. The foam we use is grey, open-cell polyethylene. It's quite dense and rather firm. It's often found in gun cases (but they usually give cheap, low density foam with the cases).
It's dumb what they're doing with newer cars! I strongly considered a new hybrid, only to find out there's no spare tire! Car companies are absolutely targeting younger buyers who will just call roadside & don't know how to change a tire.
Do you know that in Japan, the 2023 Prius has a spare tire in all their cars but not here in America! This is why you can get the OEM parts to put that spare in your vehicle. The reason they don't put a spare is to get better EPA numbers!
I think it’s because of US laws requiring mpg minimums so they have to save weight somehow. They don’t pass idiotic laws overseas that are inconvenient for the sake of a slight or negligible mileage gain to help the environment while your family languishes for hours in a desert with a flat. Most countries are small so you could walk to help anyway, lol. Our legislators are stupid and so are we for putting up with it!
@mdarks4117 just to let you know that on Japan they have spare tires in the trunk. It's because of the EPA they don't have spares to get better mileage.
I did the same for my 2023 Prius AWD. Seen a video regarding this and I am very happy to have a spare tire in the trunk. Especially since the 19x50 R19 as very hard to find.
Flipping would probably also enable you to secure the spare wheel to the screw hole I believe is still in the bottom of the wheel well even in the hybrid.
Depends on the market - here in thailand, the corolla hybrid ( which is manufactured domestically) comes with a full size spare tire and matching alloy rim
All those who think they are okay with a repair kit or breakdown cover - think again. Being an old timer, I have had several blowouts in my time. None of them could have been repaired and once the blow out even wrecked the wheel. Those who think that a full blowout is uncommon should never own a car with low profile tyres! I never buy a car now that doesn't have a spare wheel or at least a space for one. I don't know why motorists fall for this "no - spare crap today. It is just penny pinching by the manufactures.
I just had my first blowout the other day while driving out in the middle of the desert. It solidified my belief that every car needs a spare tire. That inflation crap isn't going to help you if your tire is shredded... it's just bs. I refuse to get any car without one, although the idea of adding one in when there's a ton of unused space like in the toyota cross or corolla, is a new idea for me and I could definitely see myself doing that. Just didn't realize until today that there's literally a ginormous amount of unused space under everything. Just so subpar of toyota 🤦🏼♀
very nice but it needs to be secured in place. If a wreck was to occur, that tire would fly out and become extremely life threatening to passengers inside the car.
I am going to secure mine with a high tensile strengtg strap fed under the wheel carrier bracket on the bottom as it doesn't line up with my tyre to use a bolt. Tyre fits perfectly under the boot floor so idk why Toyota didn't include at least a space saver spare.
My concern with doing like this video with my 2023 Corolla Cross Hybrid is that I could damage the hybrid high voltage cables which for some reason were placed in the wheel well of the trunk. How do avoid that possibility?
Search on TH-cam “spare tire Prius”. There is a guy who bought parts from Toyota to put a secured and anchored spare tire in his 24 Prius and the spare tire well has a cable going through it. There is a bracket that suspends the compact spare a couple inches up in the air and away from the cable. Maybe the same parts and setup could be used for your Corolla Cross. I think it is ridiculous and crappy that anyone makes a car without a spare tire. Even my tiny Prius C has a spare tire.
I’ve just purchased an alloy wheel and tyre to fit in the boot of my 2016 Toyota Prius as I wanted 100 percent security that if I had a blowout on the road I could simply replace like for like.
Some of spare wheels have a Styrofoam filling to fit the jack inbetween the wheel. Maybe a visit to the scrap yard maty find something already done for you.
@Terry Kaine: I ended up going the lazy route and just wrapped the jack in bubble wrap and it fits nicely inside of the inner part of the wheel. No vibration or noise coming from it so far.
I will use the old floor mat or a baby blanket to put your scissors Jack where the spare tire is, I have to check out my Honda Civic type-r to see if I can fit a full-size spare in to that it scary driving without spare tire
The ride quality was great with 235 45 r18. When you go wider width then the aspect ratio gets taller and its not as low of a profile tire as you think. It rides smooth and I noticed better cornering because of the grip. As long as you put on good tires, the Yokohama Avid GTs are quiet and not too soft. There is one downside, if you drive over bumps at higher speeds and bottom out your suspension, I did notice some rubbing on the front wheel wells. But it wasn't a big deal and you can do a small modification to fix it.
Probably the high voltage cables are under the car and exposed to water from rain and snow. Toyota had problems with those cables corroding and needed to be replaced. Unfortunately Toyota took the lazy way to fix that by placing the cables in the wheel well leaving not room for a spare tire.
I did the same however locating the proper jack point is not clear... you see hard points seemingly the sub frame but unless you literally identify the spot and the scissor jack does slip off is the key
Just don’t understand why Toyota do not supply spare tire. In last year I blow two low profile tires in potholes and not even one nail. Good I have older car with spare.
No unfortunately, I checked with Toyota, and read through the owners manual. For this version of the Corolla Hybrid LE model there is no scissor jack or spare tire.
Why have a spare Your insurance has tire replacement and or towing I use mine as a secret compartment. Heck when I did have spare I never used it so just took it out . Just don’t see the need when on average you only get a flat every 6-10 years which in that time is to replace the tires
Wow how stupid of Toyota... I agree, it's not like there is no space. Plenty of space. Ridiculous. I'm probably getting old as I want to say this is targeted towards today's youth that don't know how to do or make anything with their own hands other than use an app on their phone to call roadside assistance.
It's to "improve fuel economy" and save on production costs. Got a flat today in my 2019 VW, no spare, jack, tire inflator, or anything. You can get a donut tire from the dealer for around $200, but it's just the rim and a jack for the $200, no tire on said rim. It's to squeeze more money out of people. I called road side assistance and they only will add air to a flat tire or put on a spare tire that YOU already own, so AAA is useless if you have a tire blowout or hole like I did. Over 30% of new vehicles DO NOT come with spare/donut tires.
the last of the, mohicans, can afford cars = spare tires cannot afford = space saver tire followed by repair kit followed by jealousy-maximum manufacturers'-game = F-one
they expect you to = pay them = to DIY = to suffer rules and regulations = ... unfair contract, business law, loaded to one-sided = nothing in it for the buyer(sales contract, contract law) = first year university, business module fail, but claim to be graduate many failed first year modules during their career. cannot apply.
Finally someone who's actually smart on here. There's too many people that are totally ok with not having a spare. They'll change their tune when they're stuck in the middle of nowhere in rough weather. It happened to me in the New Mexico desert in July out in bumfuck nowheresville....never again.
Start driving then.
Roadside assistance is of no use if the car doesn’t have a spare tire. All they can do is call a tow truck to tow your vehicle to your preferred destination whether it’s the nearest tire shop, your home, or to the nearest motel/hotel. When you are driving long distance during long weekends/public holidays and the tire shops are closed, not having a spare tire will be a major headache even with roadside assistance.
I replaced my 14 year old compact spare with a full sized spare on my 2007 Saturn Ion. Salvage yard was my option, $40 steel rim + $30 used tire + $20 balance and install. Spare Jack is only $14 from my local salvage yard. No spare in my opinion is a bad choice as you may not even get a tow truck during bad weather and busy calls. The repair option with the can sealers is a time waster and will mess up the inside of the tire to the point no tech will work on it. A full size spare is the best option. 15 mins to change the tire and you are on your way.
auto or manual, my dad has one, don't let alot of water get into the flloor board because hey put some of the wiring there
It's crazy that they made a space for a full-size spare tyre, but they didn't provide one.
As part of my job, I make custom foam inserts for all sorts of tools and other things. A couple of times I've made custom foam tyre surrounds to fit into people's boots (trunks), because there wasn't even a place for a spare wheel and tyre. Another time or two, I've done an extra layer of foam to raise the area beneath the matting in their boot/trunk, because the wheel well was only made for a narrow space-saver wheel. The extra height allowed them to put in a full-size wheel. They only had to raise the floor by about 5cm (2").
All the jobs came out really great.
The foam we use is grey, open-cell polyethylene. It's quite dense and rather firm. It's often found in gun cases (but they usually give cheap, low density foam with the cases).
It's dumb what they're doing with newer cars! I strongly considered a new hybrid, only to find out there's no spare tire! Car companies are absolutely targeting younger buyers who will just call roadside & don't know how to change a tire.
Do you know that in Japan, the 2023 Prius has a spare tire in all their cars but not here in America! This is why you can get the OEM parts to put that spare in your vehicle. The reason they don't put a spare is to get better EPA numbers!
I think it’s because of US laws requiring mpg minimums so they have to save weight somehow. They don’t pass idiotic laws overseas that are inconvenient for the sake of a slight or negligible mileage gain to help the environment while your family languishes for hours in a desert with a flat. Most countries are small so you could walk to help anyway, lol. Our legislators are stupid and so are we for putting up with it!
@mdarks4117 just to let you know that on Japan they have spare tires in the trunk. It's because of the EPA they don't have spares to get better mileage.
I did the same for my 2023 Prius AWD. Seen a video regarding this and I am very happy to have a spare tire in the trunk. Especially since the 19x50 R19 as very hard to find.
what about flipping the tire upside down so that you can put the jack inside of it while it's in the trunk?
Flipping would probably also enable you to secure the spare wheel to the screw hole I believe is still in the bottom of the wheel well even in the hybrid.
I did exactly that. The only drawback is that it is not so easy to check the tyre pressure.
@@leoseries Pump up the spare to 50 psi,new cars come that way to keep them from getting flat spots. It will be unlikely it leaks down much.
Depends on the market - here in thailand, the corolla hybrid ( which is manufactured domestically) comes with a full size spare tire and matching alloy rim
All those who think they are okay with a repair kit or breakdown cover - think again. Being an old timer, I have had several blowouts in my time. None of them could have been repaired and once the blow out even wrecked the wheel. Those who think that a full blowout is uncommon should never own a car with low profile tyres! I never buy a car now that doesn't have a spare wheel or at least a space for one. I don't know why motorists fall for this "no - spare crap today. It is just penny pinching by the manufactures.
You want to store your inside the tire. Expand the jack until it's fits snugly inside the rim.
Thats actually what I ended up doing.
Interesting idea, I'll look into it. My only concern then is will the trunk cover (floor) lay flat like it is intended to do.
I just had my first blowout the other day while driving out in the middle of the desert. It solidified my belief that every car needs a spare tire. That inflation crap isn't going to help you if your tire is shredded... it's just bs. I refuse to get any car without one, although the idea of adding one in when there's a ton of unused space like in the toyota cross or corolla, is a new idea for me and I could definitely see myself doing that. Just didn't realize until today that there's literally a ginormous amount of unused space under everything. Just so subpar of toyota 🤦🏼♀
very nice but it needs to be secured in place. If a wreck was to occur, that tire would fly out and become extremely life threatening to passengers inside the car.
I am going to secure mine with a high tensile strengtg strap fed under the wheel carrier bracket on the bottom as it doesn't line up with my tyre to use a bolt.
Tyre fits perfectly under the boot floor so idk why Toyota didn't include at least a space saver spare.
My concern with doing like this video with my 2023 Corolla Cross Hybrid is that I could damage the hybrid high voltage cables which for some reason were placed in the wheel well of the trunk. How do avoid that possibility?
Search on TH-cam “spare tire Prius”. There is a guy who bought parts from Toyota to put a secured and anchored spare tire in his 24 Prius and the spare tire well has a cable going through it. There is a bracket that suspends the compact spare a couple inches up in the air and away from the cable. Maybe the same parts and setup could be used for your Corolla Cross. I think it is ridiculous and crappy that anyone makes a car without a spare tire. Even my tiny Prius C has a spare tire.
jack is under the left side passenger seat, pull out the panel, check your maintenance manual, I have it in my 2020 prius prime
Unfortunately Its not included with the 2020 Corolla Hybrid.
spot on lad fair play
I’ve just purchased an alloy wheel and tyre to fit in the boot of my 2016 Toyota Prius as I wanted 100 percent security that if I had a blowout on the road I could simply replace like for like.
Yeah under the tyre with bubble warp if foam under / by it
Thanks for making me reconsider this car...
this reminds me! I need to order a lower profile jack than what came with my car as it does not fit!
Well, keep in mind your cars weight too. You want something that can handle how ever many tons you need lifted.
The car jack is under the passager front seat.
Some of spare wheels have a Styrofoam filling to fit the jack inbetween the wheel. Maybe a visit to the scrap yard maty find something already done for you.
@Terry Kaine: I ended up going the lazy route and just wrapped the jack in bubble wrap and it fits nicely inside of the inner part of the wheel. No vibration or noise coming from it so far.
I will use the old floor mat or a baby blanket to put your scissors Jack where the spare tire is, I have to check out my Honda Civic type-r to see if I can fit a full-size spare in to that it scary driving without spare tire
That's a good idea, you can use the blanket to kneel down on when changing out the tire 👍
How is you ride soft or harsh with slim rubber vs original tires
195 65 15 to 235 45 18 ??? Or your car ??
The ride quality was great with 235 45 r18. When you go wider width then the aspect ratio gets taller and its not as low of a profile tire as you think. It rides smooth and I noticed better cornering because of the grip. As long as you put on good tires, the Yokohama Avid GTs are quiet and not too soft. There is one downside, if you drive over bumps at higher speeds and bottom out your suspension, I did notice some rubbing on the front wheel wells. But it wasn't a big deal and you can do a small modification to fix it.
its really weird that my 2021 corolla hybrid does come with a spare.... its a compact but its there
Wow, well thats good to hear. Maybe enough ppl complained and they made the change?
And the 2022 doesn't... Make up your mind, Toyota!
Probably the high voltage cables are under the car and exposed to water from rain and snow. Toyota had problems with those cables corroding and needed to be replaced. Unfortunately Toyota took the lazy way to fix that by placing the cables in the wheel well leaving not room for a spare tire.
turn the tyre upside down and put the jack in the wheel rim
Thats exactly what I did, but I still wrapped the jack with bubble wrap to keep it from moving/ vibrating. Its a perfect fit.
Thanks that was very helpful
I did the same however locating the proper jack point is not clear... you see hard points seemingly the sub frame but unless you literally identify the spot and the scissor jack does slip off is the key
will older toyota spare tires fit???... ive tried a camary but that didint work
Anybody knows how to do this on a Prius 2022?
Just don’t understand why Toyota do not supply spare tire. In last year I blow two low profile tires in potholes and not even one nail. Good I have older car with spare.
Flip that wheel upside down and store some jumper cables in the wheel.
Someone needs to.come up with a solution for the new prius prime
2:17 what is that device? Starlink?
Do you have anything for a 2021 Prius
At this point and time, no.
After all that hard work you're gonna use a scissor Jack...
Yessir, scissor jacks are light weight and take up little room 😁
I have same car even same color just my tires are 195/65r15 if i put that spare tire size i am afraid it's gonna be lose 🤔
It shouldn't be too loose, the overall diameter of the spare I use isn't that much bigger.
Use a wheel carrier bolt, if your tyre is smaller than the 18inch in the video then you will be able to just secure it like any normal spare tyre.
Here becasue had tyre blowout and stuck for 2 hours in the cold and dark!
Another video showed on a Prius the scissor lift hiding driver side
th-cam.com/video/RychkUALBu4/w-d-xo.html
Is this the same for your model?
No unfortunately, I checked with Toyota, and read through the owners manual. For this version of the Corolla Hybrid LE model there is no scissor jack or spare tire.
Why have a spare
Your insurance has tire replacement and or towing
I use mine as a secret compartment.
Heck when I did have spare I never used it so just took it out .
Just don’t see the need when on average you only get a flat every 6-10 years which in that time is to replace the tires
I want the opposite. I want to remove my spare tire from the trunk
Wow how stupid of Toyota... I agree, it's not like there is no space. Plenty of space. Ridiculous. I'm probably getting old as I want to say this is targeted towards today's youth that don't know how to do or make anything with their own hands other than use an app on their phone to call roadside assistance.
Kids really dont know how to change tires nowadays? Wtf??? That was the first thing my dad taught me when I was like 6
It's to "improve fuel economy" and save on production costs. Got a flat today in my 2019 VW, no spare, jack, tire inflator, or anything. You can get a donut tire from the dealer for around $200, but it's just the rim and a jack for the $200, no tire on said rim. It's to squeeze more money out of people. I called road side assistance and they only will add air to a flat tire or put on a spare tire that YOU already own, so AAA is useless if you have a tire blowout or hole like I did. Over 30% of new vehicles DO NOT come with spare/donut tires.
the last of the, mohicans, can afford cars
= spare tires
cannot afford = space saver tire followed by repair kit followed by jealousy-maximum
manufacturers'-game = F-one
they expect you to
= pay them
= to DIY
= to suffer rules and regulations
= ...
unfair contract, business law, loaded to one-sided
= nothing in it for the buyer(sales contract, contract law)
= first year university, business module fail, but claim to be graduate
many failed first year modules during their career. cannot apply.
Of course its a toyota lmao
Costs $140 to replace the tire repair kit. Works well though. Better to tow it.