I'm not sure if it's a team or not, either way the reason the content is so good isnt really impacted by that, it's the fact they take their time and dont rush content. All good things take time.
Stéfen Anders Granemann actually im pretty sure he edits everything himself. I’m fairly sure he researched, writes the script, storyboards, edits and records all by himself as in Q and As he is very very well versed with the topic
They're not a large group but it's just Internet Historian and one other guy helping with creating assets, animation, and additional editing. Still 10/10 video editing quality
Interesting fact: the reason they went to denmark selling the last painting is due to swedish law. Police cant incite a crime here so they had to convince the sellers going to denmark. The sellers kinda knew it was a trap but they were so fed up with the situation they took the risk.
@@Preacher_. Scandanvia's pretty good in general on this. Instead of frontloading a 30 year sentence, it starts with a low sentence which is extended at the end (by a few years, top) if you're still deemed a threat to society, so you're encouraged to change rather than just wait it out. Technically it can be extended an unlimited number of times, but that is unlikely as it'll be years between each sentence, likely with a different judge.
D.C. Gold - The U.S. has laws against entrapment. They just have less idiotic ones and don't have idiots interpreting them, usually, so sting operations, which clearly ARE NOT ENTRAPMENT as a general rule, are perfectly okay.
I'm so done with this "root causes of crime" bullshit. The only goal a system of law needs is to penalize criminals in a fair manner. In Singapore they cane people for the smallest of crimes and it works. Severe penalties deters crime. "Rehabilitation" is a road to nowhere.
@@kingzahhak911 No, Severe punishments only cause people to go even further down the hole If someone steals a low price object and the punishment is severe it just makes them go "Wtf im going to get life for stealing this jar of jam so I might as well steal more expensive shit" Countries with harsh punishments for even small crimes tend HAVE WAY MORE CRIME than most other countries Your example is one of the few that has a low crime rate. But look at N.korea and China, Thailand and most Saudi countries Harsh punishments for even smallest crime and there crime is rate is quite high
To quote a man named Larry Lawton, who used to be an FBI wanted jewel thief, it's far easier to rob and sell off items you know you can get rid of. For example, Larry said that if he had a choice to rob 10 Picasso paintings or a truck full of Apple watches, he'd go for the watches because he knows he can get rid of them easily. Sure, it's less money, but still a lot of money.
Imagine someone robs an museum, just because they like the art and want it for themselves. No monetary gain, just have a good looking painting hanging in your living room.
I swear I watched a video on someone who did just that. He just kept stealing art pieces and collecting them, never selling them. He was eventually caught but a lot later than you might think.
I love how so many of the people who reacted to this video immediately picked up on the fact that it would be difficult to impossible to actually sell these paintings, but the thieves themselves apparently never considered that at any point throughout all of that meticulous planning.
The museum cashes out the insurance policy and the thieves ransom the art to the insurer who gained ownership when they paid out. The insurer pays the ransom because they can likely make a profit putting it up for auction or selling it back to the museum or gallery. These particular thieves were dumb but art theft is common and lucrative
It's not impossible at all, thousands of high end art pieces get stolen every year and disappear into private collections, it's a huge industry. I live in LA and the LAPD has a stolen art squad. Once the thieves steal it they will take it to their fence and from there it will go up the chain and into the network of dealers.
@@Gecko.... Yeah, but that hinges on you actually having contacts and a willing buyer to begin with, these guys had none of that and no way to find and varify a buyer being legit without knowing if it's a set up.
@@Gecko.... I have a strange feeling that those art thieves you speak of aren't giving their real phone numbers out to people they're buying shit from that will only be used for a crime
Man, he should know about the "Helicopter robbery" they robbed a bank a while back, and got away with an insane amount of money. they caught the guys but never recovered the money. And during their prison sentence we (sweden) updated our currency, sooo now they are sitting there, with HEAPS of cash in unusable bills stored safely on the outside hahahahaha :D
@@aproxy7263 Well it is enough to have a decent living for approximately 15 years. It is an insane amounts of money to any normal person. However if you're a rich billionaire then yeah its probably alot less.
Yea and if you think they just dug a hole in the ground and put all the money there you are dumb af. The updated currency did absolutely nothing. Lets say you have 1 million Sek hidden and you know that in 2 years time the currency would be updated would you do nothing?
Thousands of high end art pieces get stolen every year and disappear into private collections, it's a huge industry. I live in LA and the LAPD has a stolen art squad. Once the thieves steal it they will take it to their fence and from there it will go up the chain and into the network of dealers who have the contacts of wealthy private collectors.
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My friend just got out of prison in the UK and it was a catagorey D prison which mean't after a while he got visits home and stuff because he wasn't in for dangerous crimes. By the time he was due release, he was spending 1 week a month a home.
@@itsprivate3061 Nope. Cat D's are designed to prep prisoners who are due to be released within 2 years. We have Cat D, C, B and A. You also only get the option of a cat D if you're in for a non-dangerous crime and have less than 2 years left. Most people get C+ which is basically in your cell all day except 1 hour to walk about. You also don't go straight to Cat D if your sentence in below 2 years, you've got to go serve a minimum of 6 - 12 months in a cat C or higher first to earn it.
One rule of robery is that you only rob what you allready have a handler for. Making the deal ist pretty much the first step in any heist. And you won't be paid the real value. (*edit: Missinformation* I heard it's usually 10% of the value because the handler has to resell it and knows that you can't.) That's why cash is allways the best thing to steal If you have a way to transport the weight.
i know right? Many people seem to think that the black market is some kind of physical space where people buy and sell contraband or stolen goods. The vast majority of heists like these are contract work.
I bet you know that cuz u r swedish and do heists on the weekend, probably got caught once and judge put you up to 16 hours of community service right?
@@Strongest_under_heaven The funny thing is that you laugh about a concept like prison furloughs but probably live in a country with recidivism rates much higher than those of sweden
@MrAlex15can yeah fucked it up. Looked at that Larry Lawton Interview again. He Said that if you don't have a specific client hiring you, you get around 2% of the original value. Not even the numbers were correct.
The only case where "accessory to extortion" would not apply is if the criminals had hostages and sent one of those to negotiate. Then it's "reluctant victim".
Twitch chat: "EU best country" - The EU isn't a country "EU laws" - the justice system of EU member states is not universal, there are a few general rules, but member states break them all the time
@@hirobeez Nah, the British know the difference between EU and Europe because they live in an island nation of Europe and left the EU ( trying to). It's muricah retardation.
It's actually hilarious how they celebrate their amazingly AWFUL justice system and the fact they get life in prison on a daily basis over there.. Or the fcking death penalty. but not with chomo's, no, for stealing from the government.. Seriously braindead people.
In all seriousness thieves that steal artwork THAT high profile are usually being paid to steal it for a client. You dont steal it to then try and sell it because it cant be sold. The clients are usually buying it just to vault it.
Idk why I keep looking at the chat expecting... Hopping... Dreaming that maybe, just maybe, someone out there knows wtf there talking about... And I always get disappointed.
That's why it's always better to rob electronics, jewels, gold, or obviously cash. They can also get away with low security because of it Also don't rob things, it's bad.
I agree if i where to steal stuff i would go after trucks with the things i drive with i mean one day i had 3 pallets with about 100000usd worth off robot vacum cleaners and was just 3 out of 33 pallets total on my truck
love how chat is going of about *Sweden* and so on, haha Its really fun to see Americans who are sent to prison for 30 years for drugs lose their shit when non-violent crime here lands you a handfull of years
@@kennandunn7533 We dont have a crime for that, we have Robbery and then Harsh/serious robbery. It depends on how the criminal in question got the things. Did they harm the person they where robbing or not? Besides, if they didnt, Harsh robbery can land then 6 - 10 years in prison, while robbery lands you 1 - 6.
@@paragonaesir1957 OK, so while the video called it Armed robbery, the CNN page on the event classified it as aggravated robbery. Although since they were armed, that kind of implies that they were threatening death on their victims if they did not comply.
@@kennandunn7533 I thought they didn't have any weapons with them? I know they might have had a crowbar or something, but I don't think a tool like that should count as a weapon, particularly if it was relevant to whatever they were trying to do.
I've watched The Internet Historian's videos so many times, and every time I watch I enjoy it all the same. These videos are timeless. He's honestly a genius! 😂
9:29 LMAO I LOVE THE FACE ASMON MADE BWAHAHA. Ever so slowly getting confused about what he just heard, smile slowly dropping into a “wait what the fuck lmao” face
I mean people in the chat are lauging at the justice system in Europe...but it works. Unlike US justice system which is a broken pile of shit. In Europe, specially scandinavia, has the lowest recidivism rate.
eurotrash "justice" system = just don't charge the kinds of people who commit crime continuously, because not looking racist and being able to pretend their society is still stable in 2020 is more important than actually protecting citizens murica "justice" system = keep criminals in zoos for as long as possible so government can fleece the tax money funding it because bureaucrats' mortgage is more important than dealing with crime everyone should learn from russia and just banish scum to the arctic
You also have like 4 people that live there of which like 90% are from the same ethnic, religious, and cultural backgrounds. It’s much easier to manage that kind of population, especially when all of Scandanavias population is like the size of one or two of the fifty states we have .
@@SaintEaon wait i don't actually know what im talking about but why is it easier managing that smaller populatio? wouldent it just be more police or therapists to deal with them if there was a bigger pop?
vigge cokar litte cola not at all, if you look generally smaller more close knit communities tend to be the safest places to live because everyone knows everyone else. But extending beyond that if everyone in your country is a white, Russian Orthodox Christian that means they’re all going to have similar values and experiences which further means they’re more likely to relate to one another and empathize with them. That also means they lack any benefits that diversity might bring but on the same token racism isn’t a problem. Most people will point at European countries with one ethic type, one main religion , and 10 million citizens and try to compare that to the US where we have 350 million people, a whole rainbow of ethnic groups and religions and 50 different states that all do things differently and say Europe is better, however when you say compare the white only population in America to say the same group in Europe, almost universally America does it better and on larger numbers
2:10 nobody steals paintings in hopes of selling them on the black-market or something. AFAIK such of heist happened because someone hired a crew to steal the painting for them or basically they had a buyer before the heist.
Doesn't matter how much the painting is valued at auction, dude; if you can't sell it, it's worth less than a can of Pepsi to you. The paintings purported value is what you can expect to get in a legitimate manner, but like he said, doing it illigitimate means a ton of risk for a buyer, which gives them negotiating power to lower the price. Things are only worth as much as people are willing to pay for them. And after having gotten nothing for years after a giant job but their gang slowly crumbling around them, were they about to refuse $200K to hold out for a couple million that they were never, ever, EVER going to get? Seriously, this is like Baby's First Economics Concepts here.
All those people in chat were ridiculing the Swedish prison system, but what they don't realize is that they have on of the lowest prison populations and one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world. It's actually fucking insane how good their rehabilitation rate is, and then you look at the US.... -_- ...
@@whatastandupguy3050 Yes, because they actually understand the point of a justice system isn't to punish, it's to get the best outcomes for society. In the US prisons turn people into lifelong criminals, in places like Sweden they turn criminals into functional members of society.
@@TacoGiraffen I mean even people in America try to get into prison for misdemeanors just to get food, a bed, and unlimited free health care. I can't imagine how many people would be trying to get into jail with those added assentives as well
@@Unknown-hb3id well you don't just sit around in prison. You're basically doing public service so you *are* working but you don't get paid. Like yeah, free housing and stuff but you don't really get to buy yourself things you want to and it's pretty hard to find a real job afterwards because of the record. Prison is still prison, exept that this system has the endgoal of integrating criminals back into society without radicalizing them
23:00 it's actually quite disturbing that chat thinks it's the eu that's wrong for having a small.sentwnce and nit america being ridiculous enough to put someone in jail for 30 YEARS because meh drugs
A painting being described as a sheet of paper is the same thing as a game beimg described as a computer archive, is technically true, but it's not right
@MrAlex15can Tell that to the thousands of people in prison for drug possession, a large portion of whom didn't intend to sell it. american courts see repeat offenders caught with drugs for personal use as if they are not worth rehabilitation, while EU courts are getting better at lowering reoffending rates through a softer approach to prison and jail time. It has ruined plenty lives already, if the US keeps pushing for rehab for drug addicts and lesser sentences for people who deserve a second chance your country will be in a better place.
What the fuck? Next you'll be saying that throwing criminals into a big pit of other criminals, locking the door and forgetting about them, then releasing them 5 years later with no money and extremely restricted job and housing opportunities would lead to undesirable outcomes. Preposterous
Damn dude I really wish the USA had a legal system more focused on rehab and reintegration than punishment. Clearly it is just not working, but we haven't had the change necessary in politics to call for this (even though it would cost far less money).
Yeah, me too. But as you can see from the people in chat, or anywhere else anyone talks about this kind of stuff, Americans don't care about rehab, reintegration, recidivism, how much it costs, etc. They want "justice" they want criminals to live in hell and squalor, they want them to be raped, they don't care if it actually decreases crime or has other positive outcomes. It's all about retribution. You can see the same thing with guns, and so many other topics. It isn't actually about reducing harm.
It would cost less (for the state), the fact that the prison system in the US is privatized, incentivizes keeping recidivism high rather than rehabilitating the inmates.
@@Unknown-hb3id What I mean is that like with the criminal justice system, with the topic of guns/gun law/gun safety/mass shootings/etc, for a lot of people, harm reduction isn't important.
2:01 i think you find a buyer(s) before you do the job. The items are most likely specified before the heist. How you get in contact with crooked wealthy buyers i have a hard time to even imagine 🤷🏼♀️
Long sentences actually increase the chance of committing a crime again, so that's why it's not usual to throw people away for decades. It's not just about punishment, but also rehabilitation and decreasing crime overall
Yeah it's always funny seeing Americans laugh at the justice system of certain EU countries, when those justice systems objectively work better. Much better.
6:11 good ol complacency, it always gets ‘em “Criminals hate this one trick, are you a cop trying to catch a criminal? try this easy trick that criminals despise: “criminal complacency”.
6:11 good ol complacency, it always gets ‘em “Criminals hate this one trick, are you a cop trying to catch a criminal? try this easy trick that criminals despise: ‘criminal complacency’”
In the US they tend to have an inflated ego and treat criminals of any caliber like they're the worse person in the world compared to them, often forgetting they're still human after all and not everything is always as simple as "crime=bad person", things are often more complicated than that. Not always, but can be. But hell these days they treat the average person just minding their own business like they're terrorists over an opinion. Everyone likes to think that they're the self-righteous heroes in their stories, those people need to stop living life like it's a movie.
The whole chat is lauging at how Swedish prisons work, but US prisons have longer sentences, are less effective at rehabilitation, are used for borderline slave-labour, have way higher death and injury rates, have way more inmates living in WAY worse conditions, and you can get in for even minor offences. I sure do wonder in which country people are more willing to cooperate with the police and less afraid of their own society and neighbors.
1:54 I don't know the full story about this heist in particular, but this is a big concern for career criminals, being able to sell the shit you steal. Generally they prefer stealing stuff like fashionwear and TVs that they can sell on the street, rather than one-of-a-kind works of art. Those are extremely difficult to sell, and you'll get less cents on the dollar. When a crew breaks into an art museum and steals three specific paintings, that almost certainly means that they were hired by a wealthy client who wants those specific paintings for their own private collection. In this case, it appears that this supposed client got cold feet after the heist and refused to buy them. That explains why the rest of the story involves the crew desperately trying to sell the paintings for lower and lower prices. Without the original client being willing to buy them, they're almost impossible to liquidate.
American surprised when incarceration is used to reform someone and allow them to give back to society and not a private company that keeps people to make money out of it. America still thinks it's the best country in the world lol
Eu here, but im wondering , would someone actually reform if they had no repercussions to fear? Like why stop , when you can keep doing it and nothing actually bad happens to you?
It's all well and good with these small crimes. But what about real hardcore shit? You gonna reform a serial killer? A child rapist? A MS13 gang member?
@@requiemlul3140 treating someone who deliberately refuses to act like a human, like a human is literally the worst thing anyone could come up with. Just because america is poverity stricken corpse of a country that jails it's own people so they will not have to deal with them , doesn't mean all jails should be based on theirs. What good is a punishment if it is not a punishment? Hypothetically- would you stop stealing if nobody punished you for it? Would your friends?
art like this is only stolen on order, some wealthy drug producer/seller with interest in art or someone like that, that buy it for a fraction of the real price. else they can be stuck with a hot item for years. some that were not sellable are been dumped or they even try to sell it back to the museum. :)
I remember hearing that art theft has some of the shortest statutes of limitations relative to other comparable crimes specifically to encourage the items being returned latter, seeing how these things tend to be sensitive to temperature, humidity, light, and just fragile in general, so they want it back in the hands of professional caretakers as soon as possible, even if it means letting the thieves and/or buyers go free.
@@PlatosPunk It's not exactly a matter of opinion. I'm talking about objective metrics like recidivism rate, crime rate within the prisons and so on. I respect your opinion about a death penalty, tho and I can understand it. It's just that in my opinion having a death penalty is an emotional reaction born out of the human need for revenge. I despise this is in every way because feelings and emotions should not be the basis for any decisions in a justice system, but rationality and facts. And the fact is that while having a death penalty gives a feeling of satisfaction in some cases, all it does is make a wrong conviction irreversible. This is not the middle ages, and it's not some middle Eastern country, we shouldn't have a justice system based on such principles like revenge.
Sure, it might be better in the sense that it rehabilitates and gives more second chances to criminals, but the victims of severe crimes get extremely shafted in Sweden. There are cases where rapists sit in prison for a few months, theres the greek national that has been raping women repeatedly since the 80's and is STILL allowed to walk free. The swedish justice system is garbage and thats fortunately also the general opinion in Sweden today.
@@ProfTydrim That's why your overly empathetic culture is being replaced by the Middle East IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. You think they are "backward", but I think it's you just decadent. "Rehabilitation" it's like you give wife who crossed the line and cheated on you a "second", "third" and so on chance, instead of FOREVER cutting her out of your life.
Get fucked, mate. Our system doesn't rehabilitate, sure, but at least it can detain those criminally charged. Imagine being so fucking Ken Doll'd in the testicle department that your system actively releases convicted criminals on the weekends, lets them steal $30 million in irreplaceable artwork, and then can't even charge the *repeat* criminals when a different country finds and returns the artwork to you.
Gotta love all those NA bois in chat making fun of the concept of humane prison sentences, while they have one of the highest rates of prison murder, prison gang violence, recidivism, and highest prison population on earth. That's like Asmon laughing at a normal middle class dude for not having an entire cockroach nation and black mold in his attic.
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Historian: "This is an entirely true story"
Asmongold: "So wait is this like, Real?"
Oh Asmon, never change
Please do change.
I mean to be fair, putting a "based on a true story" type thing at the start of a fictional story as part of a joke happens sometimes.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC true dat.
To be fair, this story is so absurd it's hard to believe it's a true story
@@spiffmalone exept it's sweden and im Sure ONLY Internet historian talks about this.
1:45 the stupid sound of the grape stomp woman just gets me man, i love it
Every fucking time. Legendary
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Never fails to make me laugh lol.
Oh THAT'S what it is? Nice ;).
3 years later im still coming back to this XDDDDDDDDD
internet historian is such a good videoeditor, insane.
Yeah I think there's some people that help him with that
I'm not sure if it's a team or not, either way the reason the content is so good isnt really impacted by that, it's the fact they take their time and dont rush content. All good things take time.
The quality of the channel is great, there's no denying that!
Stéfen Anders Granemann actually im pretty sure he edits everything himself. I’m fairly sure he researched, writes the script, storyboards, edits and records all by himself as in Q and As he is very very well versed with the topic
They're not a large group but it's just Internet Historian and one other guy helping with creating assets, animation, and additional editing. Still 10/10 video editing quality
Interesting fact: the reason they went to denmark selling the last painting is due to swedish law. Police cant incite a crime here so they had to convince the sellers going to denmark. The sellers kinda knew it was a trap but they were so fed up with the situation they took the risk.
@@Preacher_. Scandanvia's pretty good in general on this. Instead of frontloading a 30 year sentence, it starts with a low sentence which is extended at the end (by a few years, top) if you're still deemed a threat to society, so you're encouraged to change rather than just wait it out.
Technically it can be extended an unlimited number of times, but that is unlikely as it'll be years between each sentence, likely with a different judge.
D.C. Gold - The U.S. has laws against entrapment. They just have less idiotic ones and don't have idiots interpreting them, usually, so sting operations, which clearly ARE NOT ENTRAPMENT as a general rule, are perfectly okay.
I'm so done with this "root causes of crime" bullshit. The only goal a system of law needs is to penalize criminals in a fair manner. In Singapore they cane people for the smallest of crimes and it works. Severe penalties deters crime. "Rehabilitation" is a road to nowhere.
@@kingzahhak911 No, Severe punishments only cause people to go even further down the hole
If someone steals a low price object and the punishment is severe it just makes them go "Wtf im going to get life for stealing this jar of jam so I might as well steal more expensive shit"
Countries with harsh punishments for even small crimes tend HAVE WAY MORE CRIME than most other countries
Your example is one of the few that has a low crime rate.
But look at N.korea and China, Thailand and most Saudi countries
Harsh punishments for even smallest crime and there crime is rate is quite high
Because those are autacracies with no regard for rule of law, just what the Despot says goes.
To quote a man named Larry Lawton, who used to be an FBI wanted jewel thief, it's far easier to rob and sell off items you know you can get rid of. For example, Larry said that if he had a choice to rob 10 Picasso paintings or a truck full of Apple watches, he'd go for the watches because he knows he can get rid of them easily. Sure, it's less money, but still a lot of money.
Imagine someone robs an museum, just because they like the art and want it for themselves. No monetary gain, just have a good looking painting hanging in your living room.
i guess that really is a thing.
In sweden this would be allowed
Very classy, but still theft.
I swear I watched a video on someone who did just that. He just kept stealing art pieces and collecting them, never selling them. He was eventually caught but a lot later than you might think.
There is a movie based on this called "The Maiden Heist"
I love how so many of the people who reacted to this video immediately picked up on the fact that it would be difficult to impossible to actually sell these paintings, but the thieves themselves apparently never considered that at any point throughout all of that meticulous planning.
If they were that smart they wouldn't have commited crimes in the first place
The museum cashes out the insurance policy and the thieves ransom the art to the insurer who gained ownership when they paid out. The insurer pays the ransom because they can likely make a profit putting it up for auction or selling it back to the museum or gallery. These particular thieves were dumb but art theft is common and lucrative
It's not impossible at all, thousands of high end art pieces get stolen every year and disappear into private collections, it's a huge industry. I live in LA and the LAPD has a stolen art squad. Once the thieves steal it they will take it to their fence and from there it will go up the chain and into the network of dealers.
@@Gecko.... Yeah, but that hinges on you actually having contacts and a willing buyer to begin with, these guys had none of that and no way to find and varify a buyer being legit without knowing if it's a set up.
@@Gecko.... I have a strange feeling that those art thieves you speak of aren't giving their real phone numbers out to people they're buying shit from that will only be used for a crime
"Black market sounds like a huge pain in the ass man"
Man, as opposed to robbing the museum it sounds like the relaxing part, I dunno.
@@trifontrifonov4297
Well the media made him sound like more of a badass.
10:33 That wait what was so perfectly synced
Yup
Indeed
I just love how they pull off the heist perfectly, only to fail for so completly stupid reasons....
In Bulgaria we say ''1 small pebble on the road can cause a car crash''. Pretty much sums it up.
@@voilvelev6775 In mexico we say estas pendejo, bien pendejo
video: this actually happened
asmon, 0.4s later: is this a real thing?
Historian in some of the videos puts an imagination of the main characters so I think Asmongold thought that this will be heist story that went wrong.
Need to get Asmon to react to some vids on Bitchute instead of YT.
Man, he should know about the "Helicopter robbery"
they robbed a bank a while back, and got away with an insane amount of money. they caught the guys but never recovered the money. And during their prison sentence we (sweden) updated our currency, sooo now they are sitting there, with HEAPS of cash in unusable bills stored safely on the outside hahahahaha :D
Now that’s a galaxy brain move
@@cartman2dk well pewdiepie is from sweeden he seems inteligent enough i guess XD
Well... I wouldn't call 39 million Swedish kronor an "insane amount of money". It's about 3.9 million US dollars.
@@aproxy7263 Well it is enough to have a decent living for approximately 15 years. It is an insane amounts of money to any normal person. However if you're a rich billionaire then yeah its probably alot less.
Yea and if you think they just dug a hole in the ground and put all the money there you are dumb af. The updated currency did absolutely nothing. Lets say you have 1 million Sek hidden and you know that in 2 years time the currency would be updated would you do nothing?
You can't imagine how good it feels to see chat be normal when someone says "suspect" and not just spam sus
Asmon: "isn't that kinda traceable? Like, how could you sell that?"
Everyone but the thieves: "Precisely!"
Thousands of high end art pieces get stolen every year and disappear into private collections, it's a huge industry. I live in LA and the LAPD has a stolen art squad. Once the thieves steal it they will take it to their fence and from there it will go up the chain and into the network of dealers who have the contacts of wealthy private collectors.
@@Gecko.... Indeed, but that requires an already set up network, which these guys did not have.
@@Gecko....but this is something you forgot:
These art pieces are stolen by request.
Read this as soon as he said it lmao
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the Architecture video is amazing
So when does the check for $100k come in Asmon?
lol him wondering how stolen art can be stolen shows how aloof and clueless ppl who spend all day inside really are
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My friend just got out of prison in the UK and it was a catagorey D prison which mean't after a while he got visits home and stuff because he wasn't in for dangerous crimes. By the time he was due release, he was spending 1 week a month a home.
Hope he's doing well mate
@@itsprivate3061 Nope. Cat D's are designed to prep prisoners who are due to be released within 2 years. We have Cat D, C, B and A. You also only get the option of a cat D if you're in for a non-dangerous crime and have less than 2 years left. Most people get C+ which is basically in your cell all day except 1 hour to walk about. You also don't go straight to Cat D if your sentence in below 2 years, you've got to go serve a minimum of 6 - 12 months in a cat C or higher first to earn it.
One rule of robery is that you only rob what you allready have a handler for.
Making the deal ist pretty much the first step in any heist. And you won't be paid the real value. (*edit: Missinformation* I heard it's usually 10% of the value because the handler has to resell it and knows that you can't.)
That's why cash is allways the best thing to steal If you have a way to transport the weight.
i know right? Many people seem to think that the black market is some kind of physical space where people buy and sell contraband or stolen goods. The vast majority of heists like these are contract work.
I bet you know that cuz u r swedish and do heists on the weekend, probably got caught once and judge put you up to 16 hours of community service right?
@@Strongest_under_heaven The funny thing is that you laugh about a concept like prison furloughs but probably live in a country with recidivism rates much higher than those of sweden
@MrAlex15can yeah fucked it up. Looked at that Larry Lawton Interview again.
He Said that if you don't have a specific client hiring you, you get around 2% of the original value. Not even the numbers were correct.
@@FlyingBaNana3000 oh boy you are correct on that one.
"The following is a true story"
7 seconds later
"Is this a real thing?"
Why do i even watch videos when i can just have asmon watch them for me??
A heist of this magnitude does not normally find place unless there's already a buyer lined up before it's executed.
The only case where "accessory to extortion" would not apply is if the criminals had hostages and sent one of those to negotiate. Then it's "reluctant victim".
Twitch chat:
"EU best country" - The EU isn't a country
"EU laws" - the justice system of EU member states is not universal, there are a few general rules, but member states break them all the time
Their british blood can't help them.
@@hirobeez Nah, the British know the difference between EU and Europe because they live in an island nation of Europe and left the EU ( trying to). It's muricah retardation.
Americans...
It's actually hilarious how they celebrate their amazingly AWFUL justice system and the fact they get life in prison on a daily basis over there.. Or the fcking death penalty. but not with chomo's, no, for stealing from the government.. Seriously braindead people.
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This comment always sounds vaguely sexual
The definition of Kreygasm
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If u dont have a set buyer BEFORE the art heist then its prob a good idea to pass.
In all seriousness thieves that steal artwork THAT high profile are usually being paid to steal it for a client. You dont steal it to then try and sell it because it cant be sold. The clients are usually buying it just to vault it.
Im a bulgarian and i can tell the way he represented most of the population of Bulgaria is right
Talking about Sweden jails when its actually one of the best prison systems in the EU for lowering crime rates and prison reform
Turning prisoners into functioning members of society again? Fuck that, let’s kill them instead lmao.
Not necessarily a causal relationship
@nerd Surfer What about the prostitution and human trafficking? At least from what I've heard
rape capital of europe lmao
Sarcasm i live in Sweden and never hears of it
Idk why I keep looking at the chat expecting... Hopping... Dreaming that maybe, just maybe, someone out there knows wtf there talking about... And I always get disappointed.
It's a twitch chat always expect stupidity.
@@terasutube1 Indeed :(
@@chief_exe hoping, is what you're trying to say I was so confused upon first reading, I was like "hopping? Like a rabbit?"
@@suprisedabraham1711 How do you know I didnt mean both? This is Internet Historian were talkin' about.
I’ve seen worse comments on TH-cam tbh
That's why it's always better to rob electronics, jewels, gold, or obviously cash. They can also get away with low security because of it Also don't rob things, it's bad.
cash is registered, so they will find them someday. Also stores scan them if it 50 or up
I agree if i where to steal stuff i would go after trucks with the things i drive with i mean one day i had 3 pallets with about 100000usd worth off robot vacum cleaners and was just 3 out of 33 pallets total on my truck
@@ajaakola2 Stores only scan cash to check if its real, mainly only banks check serial numbers
@@ajaakola2 There is plenty of ways to use stolen cash
16:44 Someone is chat said, "Why is he wearing a KKK hat?"
I love that he ends it with "Nothing happened. Nobody got shot" As if that is a bad thing XD
Yeah well apparently getting shot is par for the course in the good ol' You Ess of Aye, I think he's more surprised about it
asmongold: *sees detective butt*
also asmongold: this is good, this is real good
love how chat is going of about *Sweden* and so on, haha
Its really fun to see Americans who are sent to prison for 30 years for drugs lose their shit when non-violent crime here lands you a handfull of years
lol my thoughts exactly
Is armed robbery a non-violent crime in Sweden?
@@kennandunn7533 We dont have a crime for that, we have Robbery and then Harsh/serious robbery. It depends on how the criminal in question got the things. Did they harm the person they where robbing or not? Besides, if they didnt, Harsh robbery can land then 6 - 10 years in prison, while robbery lands you 1 - 6.
@@paragonaesir1957 OK, so while the video called it Armed robbery, the CNN page on the event classified it as aggravated robbery. Although since they were armed, that kind of implies that they were threatening death on their victims if they did not comply.
@@kennandunn7533 I thought they didn't have any weapons with them? I know they might have had a crowbar or something, but I don't think a tool like that should count as a weapon, particularly if it was relevant to whatever they were trying to do.
I've watched The Internet Historian's videos so many times, and every time I watch I enjoy it all the same. These videos are timeless. He's honestly a genius! 😂
Saudi princes have loads of stolen paintings
lol, literally just read this comment as Asmon was talking about how can you sell a stolen painting.
ANELE Clap
Not just painting but artifact as well
@@John_Ass and may e humans as well
"3 sheets of paper for $30 million." 1 check for $30 million is 1 sheet.
Asmongold showing some intelligence when he predicted that the painting won’t be easy to sell
Please do more of these, going through this journey with Asmon is such gold
9:29 LMAO I LOVE THE FACE ASMON MADE BWAHAHA. Ever so slowly getting confused about what he just heard, smile slowly dropping into a “wait what the fuck lmao” face
I mean people in the chat are lauging at the justice system in Europe...but it works. Unlike US justice system which is a broken pile of shit. In Europe, specially scandinavia, has the lowest recidivism rate.
yep, i was looking for this comment lmao they are so blind
eurotrash "justice" system = just don't charge the kinds of people who commit crime continuously, because not looking racist and being able to pretend their society is still stable in 2020 is more important than actually protecting citizens
murica "justice" system = keep criminals in zoos for as long as possible so government can fleece the tax money funding it because bureaucrats' mortgage is more important than dealing with crime
everyone should learn from russia and just banish scum to the arctic
You also have like 4 people that live there of which like 90% are from the same ethnic, religious, and cultural backgrounds. It’s much easier to manage that kind of population, especially when all of Scandanavias population is like the size of one or two of the fifty states we have .
@@SaintEaon wait i don't actually know what im talking about but why is it easier managing that smaller populatio? wouldent it just be more police or therapists to deal with them if there was a bigger pop?
vigge cokar litte cola not at all, if you look generally smaller more close knit communities tend to be the safest places to live because everyone knows everyone else. But extending beyond that if everyone in your country is a white, Russian Orthodox Christian that means they’re all going to have similar values and experiences which further means they’re more likely to relate to one another and empathize with them. That also means they lack any benefits that diversity might bring but on the same token racism isn’t a problem. Most people will point at European countries with one ethic type, one main religion , and 10 million citizens and try to compare that to the US where we have 350 million people, a whole rainbow of ethnic groups and religions and 50 different states that all do things differently and say Europe is better, however when you say compare the white only population in America to say the same group in Europe, almost universally America does it better and on larger numbers
2:10 nobody steals paintings in hopes of selling them on the black-market or something. AFAIK such of heist happened because someone hired a crew to steal the painting for them or basically they had a buyer before the heist.
30:15 ragnarokzz 290 in chat "CHANGE VIDEO IS BORIIIIING"
that kid had no class and brain
One does not simply skip an internet historian ad
I like how half of the guys arrested for armed robbery at the beginning of the video were released from prison before the video ended
Doesn't matter how much the painting is valued at auction, dude; if you can't sell it, it's worth less than a can of Pepsi to you. The paintings purported value is what you can expect to get in a legitimate manner, but like he said, doing it illigitimate means a ton of risk for a buyer, which gives them negotiating power to lower the price. Things are only worth as much as people are willing to pay for them. And after having gotten nothing for years after a giant job but their gang slowly crumbling around them, were they about to refuse $200K to hold out for a couple million that they were never, ever, EVER going to get?
Seriously, this is like Baby's First Economics Concepts here.
That Nord VPN commercial is one of the best commercials I've ever seen.
You should see his Raid Shadow Legends ads 😂
All those people in chat were ridiculing the Swedish prison system, but what they don't realize is that they have on of the lowest prison populations and one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world. It's actually fucking insane how good their rehabilitation rate is, and then you look at the US.... -_- ...
yea just dont put anyone in jail then you can say you have "the lowest prison population", great
They have the lowest amount of people in prison because they don’t fucking keep anyone in there lmao
@@whatastandupguy3050 exactly lol
@@whatastandupguy3050 Yes, because they actually understand the point of a justice system isn't to punish, it's to get the best outcomes for society. In the US prisons turn people into lifelong criminals, in places like Sweden they turn criminals into functional members of society.
Nevermind the grooming gangs lmao
"be a criminal in sweden" yeah okay but you will still get caught and end up wasting ur time anyway so.
Unless you don't want a job, want free meals, and want to still go out on weekends.
@@Unknown-hb3id Then go ahead and see how fun it actually is. Im guessing it sounds better on paper than it actually is.
@@TacoGiraffen I mean even people in America try to get into prison for misdemeanors just to get food, a bed, and unlimited free health care. I can't imagine how many people would be trying to get into jail with those added assentives as well
@@Unknown-hb3id well you don't just sit around in prison. You're basically doing public service so you *are* working but you don't get paid. Like yeah, free housing and stuff but you don't really get to buy yourself things you want to and it's pretty hard to find a real job afterwards because of the record.
Prison is still prison, exept that this system has the endgoal of integrating criminals back into society without radicalizing them
You can judge how good a society is by how well they treat their prisoners. Which is why I am moving to Sweden.
23:00 it's actually quite disturbing that chat thinks it's the eu that's wrong for having a small.sentwnce and nit america being ridiculous enough to put someone in jail for 30 YEARS because meh drugs
EU is entirely wrong for their fucked up laws and passive support for criminal behaviour.
Both can be wrong
u will never get the actual price out of a stolen item
it will always be lower no matter what the cost is and the item
what about stolen socks
@@imaginespendingyourtimecom3236 ill pay you top cash for those mate
Robert Witman. Part scholar, Part Daredevil.
Lee and Norris welcomes you to the club
A painting being described as a sheet of paper is the same thing as a game beimg described as a computer archive, is technically true, but it's not right
well a painting is just one frame in a videogame that we gave some insane value, so any videogame has more paintings than all museums combined
Got to love people taking the piss out of EU prison for not keeping people in prison for life because they smoked weed a few times.
Pepega Clap NA
That would require people to understand that prison should be more than just punishment.
@MrAlex15can Tell that to the thousands of people in prison for drug possession, a large portion of whom didn't intend to sell it. american courts see repeat offenders caught with drugs for personal use as if they are not worth rehabilitation, while EU courts are getting better at lowering reoffending rates through a softer approach to prison and jail time.
It has ruined plenty lives already, if the US keeps pushing for rehab for drug addicts and lesser sentences for people who deserve a second chance your country will be in a better place.
What the fuck? Next you'll be saying that throwing criminals into a big pit of other criminals, locking the door and forgetting about them, then releasing them 5 years later with no money and extremely restricted job and housing opportunities would lead to undesirable outcomes.
Preposterous
@@CoachDitka The outcomes are not undesirable. They are exactly what the prison industrial complex desires.
OG_Ravioli Dog the US prison system is not meant to rehabilitate. Private prisons want their prisoners to come back so they can profit
Lesson learned: only steal high priced paintings if you already have a buyer.
Damn dude I really wish the USA had a legal system more focused on rehab and reintegration than punishment. Clearly it is just not working, but we haven't had the change necessary in politics to call for this (even though it would cost far less money).
Yeah, me too. But as you can see from the people in chat, or anywhere else anyone talks about this kind of stuff, Americans don't care about rehab, reintegration, recidivism, how much it costs, etc. They want "justice" they want criminals to live in hell and squalor, they want them to be raped, they don't care if it actually decreases crime or has other positive outcomes. It's all about retribution. You can see the same thing with guns, and so many other topics. It isn't actually about reducing harm.
Kevin I like this take.
It would cost less (for the state), the fact that the prison system in the US is privatized, incentivizes keeping recidivism high rather than rehabilitating the inmates.
@@KEVBOYMUSIC What do you mean with the guns part?
@@Unknown-hb3id What I mean is that like with the criminal justice system, with the topic of guns/gun law/gun safety/mass shootings/etc, for a lot of people, harm reduction isn't important.
2:01 i think you find a buyer(s) before you do the job. The items are most likely specified before the heist.
How you get in contact with crooked wealthy buyers i have a hard time to even imagine 🤷🏼♀️
Long sentences actually increase the chance of committing a crime again, so that's why it's not usual to throw people away for decades. It's not just about punishment, but also rehabilitation and decreasing crime overall
Stark difference in Sweden than the US that's for sure
'muricans dont understand the purpose of prison.
yeah but locking someone up for 80% of their live also decreases their crimes by 100% during the time they are locked up
Yeah it's always funny seeing Americans laugh at the justice system of certain EU countries, when those justice systems objectively work better. Much better.
@@therodyman700 And also increases the cost of making that person live by 1000%. While they can't even be productive or do anything.
It's always that one friend you feel bad for so you bring him on the heist but he uses his real cell phone number.
I like how he also used TH-camrs as the faces
1:18 GRAPE LADY!! Lmao
In Norway and Sweden, we don't put people in jail to punish them, but to reform and help them, and it works!
so that means i can live for free in Sweden as long as i keep trying to rob banks?
@@mohamedouhibi5389 Yeah, and yall call USA the country of the free pfff
@@mohamedouhibi5389 It means, you are paid enough at work, not to rob banks. If you are doing it for the kicks, then we have a problem.
@@notalpharius2562 W OMEGALUL RK
@nerd Surfer let my try to immigrate illegally there first, they'll probably keep me in a 5 star hotel lol
6:11 good ol complacency, it always gets ‘em
“Criminals hate this one trick, are you a cop trying to catch a criminal? try this easy trick that criminals despise: “criminal complacency”.
For anyone who doesn’t know: when real art heists occur, there’s already some wealthy buyer lined up, for exactly the reason he mentions at 2:12
25:52 wait, thats chavezz slovakias face... im subscribed to this mans 😂
I can't believe they didn't use a burner phone... All this could have be avoided.
Or if they had used NordVPN
Have to be bought outside the country. All sim cards are linked to personal identification number.
3:33 only one month !!!
Chavezz had me checking to death bro
6:11 good ol complacency, it always gets ‘em
“Criminals hate this one trick, are you a cop trying to catch a criminal? try this easy trick that criminals despise: ‘criminal complacency’”
I love how chat makes fun of swedish jail system, yet it works hundred times better than the american one.
So much better that the criminals just get away lol
it would take too many reaction videos of people explaining why its better for them to understand
Cause most of them are American, and Americans think they're the best at everything
Overall it is a pretty good system with amazing results, but sadly there are too many factors on why wouldn't work in America.
In the US they tend to have an inflated ego and treat criminals of any caliber like they're the worse person in the world compared to them, often forgetting they're still human after all and not everything is always as simple as "crime=bad person", things are often more complicated than that. Not always, but can be. But hell these days they treat the average person just minding their own business like they're terrorists over an opinion. Everyone likes to think that they're the self-righteous heroes in their stories, those people need to stop living life like it's a movie.
They looked up the phone number in the phone book because they were listed.
he missed epstein killer on wall of fame
6:00 When are you about to steal 30 millions dollar but you don't want to steal a 500 dollar to a good civilian
He literally has the sources in the video. That shit happened.
The whole chat is lauging at how Swedish prisons work, but US prisons have longer sentences, are less effective at rehabilitation, are used for borderline slave-labour, have way higher death and injury rates, have way more inmates living in WAY worse conditions, and you can get in for even minor offences. I sure do wonder in which country people are more willing to cooperate with the police and less afraid of their own society and neighbors.
The 🇺🇸 because the prison there is horrible while prison In eu is nowhere near as bad
Everyone in chat makes fun of Sweden when the concept of prison furlough is brought up but the US does it too with low-risk prisoners.
Jeffrey Epstein got weekends off the first time he went to jail in Florida
WhyTF is the Ibuprofen bottle from HEB @6:53??
As a Dane this is how I imagine every swedish heist. Skål!
1:54 I don't know the full story about this heist in particular, but this is a big concern for career criminals, being able to sell the shit you steal. Generally they prefer stealing stuff like fashionwear and TVs that they can sell on the street, rather than one-of-a-kind works of art. Those are extremely difficult to sell, and you'll get less cents on the dollar.
When a crew breaks into an art museum and steals three specific paintings, that almost certainly means that they were hired by a wealthy client who wants those specific paintings for their own private collection.
In this case, it appears that this supposed client got cold feet after the heist and refused to buy them. That explains why the rest of the story involves the crew desperately trying to sell the paintings for lower and lower prices. Without the original client being willing to buy them, they're almost impossible to liquidate.
I like how the guy who got arrested in America got more jail time than literally everyone else involved combined
@@Mcdude02 Just give him the death penalty cowards. Don't feign self righteousness sentencing a 60 year old to 30 years with a justified heart.
land of the free
@@ogoogo5494 You're right, china just shoots them or puts them in interment camps. What a stupid statement.
@@darthlmr7990 Well in the US you don't even need to be guilty of something to get shot
@@ogoogo5494 Amazing! A country convicts and imprisons its own criminals more than other countries do. Wow. Haha hating America is so cool, right?
Something similar happened in Dresden, where a bunch of jailbirds from Berlin robbed the Green Vault for €114 million in historic jewelry.
Americans being surprised that art theft is less jail time than murder is funny because they value money over lives lol
MURICA: the land of freedom and sch**l sh**ting
6:29 - 'dead on arrival' with OJ lurking, comedically.
If you had a 50k/year job you made the same as selling the painting after 4 years lmaoo that's literally nothing for all that risk
"They used their real phone numbers" GG mates
American surprised when incarceration is used to reform someone and allow them to give back to society and not a private company that keeps people to make money out of it.
America still thinks it's the best country in the world lol
and Americans actually think their prison/justice system is better
Eu here, but im wondering , would someone actually reform if they had no repercussions to fear? Like why stop , when you can keep doing it and nothing actually bad happens to you?
It's all well and good with these small crimes. But what about real hardcore shit? You gonna reform a serial killer? A child rapist? A MS13 gang member?
@@secretname2670
It’s not like jail isn’t bad. It’s still jail, you are just treated like a human being.
@@requiemlul3140 treating someone who deliberately refuses to act like a human, like a human is literally the worst thing anyone could come up with. Just because america is poverity stricken corpse of a country that jails it's own people so they will not have to deal with them , doesn't mean all jails should be based on theirs. What good is a punishment if it is not a punishment?
Hypothetically- would you stop stealing if nobody punished you for it? Would your friends?
by far the best ad plug ive ever seen. i didnt want it to end
Meanwhile in my country woman steals 6 bucks worth of food because she is literally starving and she faces up to 4 years in prison.
Chat keeps shitting on Swedish prison system and yet im sitting here impressed.
Yeah, they think having the biggest prison population makes them better. The irony.
art like this is only stolen on order, some wealthy drug producer/seller with interest in art or someone like that, that buy it for a fraction of the real price. else they can be stuck with a hot item for years.
some that were not sellable are been dumped or they even try to sell it back to the museum. :)
I remember hearing that art theft has some of the shortest statutes of limitations relative to other comparable crimes specifically to encourage the items being returned latter, seeing how these things tend to be sensitive to temperature, humidity, light, and just fragile in general, so they want it back in the hands of professional caretakers as soon as possible, even if it means letting the thieves and/or buyers go free.
that FAK YOU MAIT is killing me
Funny to see the chat laugh about the swedish justice system when the results are far superior to americas justice system :D
Unless you have a death penalty for child molesters and murderers i can't agree with your statement. But I respect your opinion
@@PlatosPunk It's not exactly a matter of opinion. I'm talking about objective metrics like recidivism rate, crime rate within the prisons and so on. I respect your opinion about a death penalty, tho and I can understand it. It's just that in my opinion having a death penalty is an emotional reaction born out of the human need for revenge. I despise this is in every way because feelings and emotions should not be the basis for any decisions in a justice system, but rationality and facts. And the fact is that while having a death penalty gives a feeling of satisfaction in some cases, all it does is make a wrong conviction irreversible. This is not the middle ages, and it's not some middle Eastern country, we shouldn't have a justice system based on such principles like revenge.
Sure, it might be better in the sense that it rehabilitates and gives more second chances to criminals, but the victims of severe crimes get extremely shafted in Sweden. There are cases where rapists sit in prison for a few months, theres the greek national that has been raping women repeatedly since the 80's and is STILL allowed to walk free. The swedish justice system is garbage and thats fortunately also the general opinion in Sweden today.
@@ProfTydrim That's why your overly empathetic culture is being replaced by the Middle East IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. You think they are "backward", but I think it's you just decadent.
"Rehabilitation" it's like you give wife who crossed the line and cheated on you a "second", "third" and so on chance, instead of FOREVER cutting her out of your life.
Swedish Bank heists sound more boring than buying a pack of cigarettes with a counterfeit 20.
Imagine Americans critisizing Sweden's criminal justice system.
And less than a week later, those chat NPCs ate shit real, REAL quick.
Meanwhile, Anders Breivik is right now sittting in a comfortable room playing his PS2 games.
@@urafaget5202 lol do they let him out on the weekends too? We can't be mean to the mass murderer, what if he gets sad?
He's comfortable but there's no way they'll let him go into low security.
Get fucked, mate. Our system doesn't rehabilitate, sure, but at least it can detain those criminally charged.
Imagine being so fucking Ken Doll'd in the testicle department that your system actively releases convicted criminals on the weekends, lets them steal $30 million in irreplaceable artwork, and then can't even charge the *repeat* criminals when a different country finds and returns the artwork to you.
You see all this and then realise they would get away with it if they used a fake phone number, repainted and sunk the boat at the end...
Gotta love all those NA bois in chat making fun of the concept of humane prison sentences, while they have one of the highest rates of prison murder, prison gang violence, recidivism, and highest prison population on earth. That's like Asmon laughing at a normal middle class dude for not having an entire cockroach nation and black mold in his attic.
@MrAlex15can Ah yes, who hasn't heard of the race called "american". Impeccable logic there sir.
Aryan Brotherhood > Decent reoffending rates
Nice one NA
What usually ends up happening is the thieves sell the paintings back to the museum that they just stole it from
Chat mocking Scandinavian justice systems and implying that the American justice system is anywhere near good. Yike
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