Just for full disclosure, the reason I didn't include other frequently reoccuring weapons like Claymore, Uchigatana, etc., is because those are based off of real life weapons for the most part, I wanted to mostly focus on things that are more so Fromsoft's. Similar reason for not including the Guts' adjacent Greatsword, it's mostly a shoutout to one of their influences and not really their thing specifically. Plus something that simply breaks down to *BIG SWORD* leaves a lot of room for interpretation (i.e. would Ludwig's Holy Blade count? It is quite big but also vastly different from what we know as *the* Greatsword. Plus I didn't think there'd be much pre-Demon's.) Music: 0:00 - The Beginning (Demon's Souls OG OST) 1:00 - Old Hero (Demon's Souls OG OST) 2:34 - Seath the Scaleless (Dark Souls OST) 3:19 - The Lost Sinner (Dark Souls II OST) 4:16 - Ludwig, the Holy Blade (Bloodborne: The Old Hunters OST) 5:53 - Halflight, Spear of the Church (Dark Souls III: The Ringed City OST) 7:11 - Divine Dragon (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice OST) 8:49 - Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon (Elden Ring OST) 9:39 - Fires of Rubicon (Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon OST) 11:01 - Remember (Armored Core: For Answer OST) 13:24 - Dark Reality (King's Field IV OST) 16:20 - Maiden in Black (Demon's Souls OG OST)
patches and Lap are 100% the same patches. he is one of the only people to make it to the end of the world. as he never went hollow till he ran out of people to mess with and sorta lost his own self imposed purpose of punishing greedy people. he was only out for himself, so never became crestfallen risking losing himself. which is why lap reverts to kicking people off a ledge once he reverts his hollowing and regains his memories.
Poisonous environments also date back at least to the King's Field series. I'd say the most evil one is the abandoned mine in KF4, it's right at the start of the game when poison is at its most dangerous.
The Divine Dragon's sword unfortunately is not a Moonlight Greatsword reference. It is based on Shichishitō (The Seven-branched Sword), a gift from Korea to a Yamato era ruler. Its a popular historical reference in Japan and appears in tons of anime and manga like Bleach and Demon Slayer. Elden Ring even has a version called the "Death Ritual Spear"
Valid argument. As I said I was pretty on the fence too and I just barely counted it, the main reason I did was because Moonlight in the Armored Core games it's a laser sword thing, in an attempt to make it fit the aesthetic of the respective game. I would say they don't necessarily need to be mutually exclusive but I'm still hung up on the fact that you don't get it yourself either
About the DS3 Patches thing, it's definitely the same Patches, even the summon sign literally has him called "Unbreakable Patches", same as his base game name. He's also the same Patches from DS1 just as Andre is also in DS3 and it's 100% the same Andre as he references the Giant Blacksmith from DS1. If it wasn't the same Patches we would have a similar case as Siegward who is obviously a callback to Siegmeyer but is not the same person. As for killing him in the base game and him still coming back, it's probably just Fromsoft not wanting players to miss all his content if they did kill him before and it's not like it breaks the lore or anything, he is an undead afterall. But with all that considered I'd still count him twice in this case as the dlc does enough with him for it to feel like another unique experience.
Regarding killing him, we as players die and watch our bodies disappear all the time. Who knows how long in-universe it takes for our bodies to regenerate. Time is of no essence to a group of Undeads after all.
The hand of malenia bears a pretty interesting resemblence to hiltless, by having only a small tang to hold, and malenia just holds it by the blade anyway.
I wish you had picked up on the Crescent Axe staple. While not as iconic as Patches or the Moonlight Greatsword, it has appeared in King's Field 1-4, DeS, DS1-3, and ER. It's never been super important or had consistent attributes beyond the name and being an axe of some sort (except for DS3 where it was a halberd), but it's there. The Karasawa gun has been in every single AC game, so it's probally FromSoftware's second most numerous callback. Also, you should play AC6, as well as the other AC games. They're very good.
The Cresent ax isn't a callback, it's an actual type of historical ax. Karasawa is the name of one of the developers who works on the AC series. It's named after him.
Another cool thing about Elden Ring is that technically there are 2 Moonlight Greatsword equivalents: The Dark Moon Greatsword and the Golden Order Greatsword! As a part of Carian wedding culture, queens bestow Moon Greatswords upon their spouse to honour tradition. In-game, Ranni gives us the DMGS and her mother before her, Rennala, would have given Radagon a Full Moon Greatsword, which he'd later reforge into the GOGS.
yea, i think the mortal blade is to the chaos blade as the holy moonlight sword is to the moonlight greatsword, it's given a much more important role in the story of the game it's in, while changing some of the elements of its mechanical design to emphasize the unique gameplay of its respective game (trick weapon with an L2 attack for bloodborne, extra weapon in the arsenal that can be used with an L1+R1 combat art input for sekiro)
As peps who got into the Armored Core Series in prep for the release of AC6, and knowing that there's like 16 mainline AC games... yh no the other two options really stood no chance 😭😭😭
I did consider it but it's pretty much only in the Souls games no? Can't think of a direct parallel in BB, Seki and Elden Ring, so if anything i'd be about on par with Chaos Blade
I'll admit it's kind of a stretch, but I think the REDSHIFT is AC6's equivalent to the Chaos Blade. While it doesn't damage your mech, the energy waves it produces are made of Coral, which is stated to be a living consciousness, so the core idea of a sword that burns life force to wield is still there.
Dude the Moonlight greatsword from Otogi: Myth of Demons and Otogi: Immortal warriors was amazing. The moonlight beam could one-shot everything, including all bosses. I would love it if they remastered that game series
The name "Seathe" is also a callback the pale drake from king's field was named Seathe, you needed the moonlight sword to defeat him. That's why you get the moonlight greatsword from seathe the scaleless in ds1.
I have to agree that the Moonlight Greatsword seems to have been heavily inspired by the Master Sword from Zelda. Similar upgrade process in many of the games to its original incarnation. Not to mention it has a very similar color scheme and the same gimmick of launching a beam/slash.
You kind of remind me of OG Vasko Games. Very well researched and high quality content, while being underrated. Also, you kinda sound like him. Excellent video and thank you.
I'm surprised you didn't include Crestfallen in this as its own count. He's in DeS, all three Dark Souls games in some capacity, and he was in Kings Field 4.
In the 1.00 version of Elden ring rivers of blood comes with bloody slash as opposed to corpse piler. Meaning it originally was a health draining katana
Elden Ring hints at the idea that the OG moonlight greatsword did exist as a gift for Radagon, but was reshaped into the golden order greatsword. So if you count the darkmoon, you could argue there are two instances of this weapon in Elden Ring
There’s still a spot for a Chaos Blade in Elden Ring, imagine a katana with faith scaling, deals madness, and applies small amounts of madness to the user with each swing
Makoto is the chaos blade in Demon's souls 😆 Maldron the assassin might also be a Patches incarnation. I asked DS2 dataminer if Gilligan counts but despite selling the black leather set, being hated by other npcs for being a scammer, a callback to Mephistopheles with Navalan, and giving lore if he trusts you enough, he apparently doesn't count.
You failed to mentioned the sword of Moonlight incantation in DS3 ringed city dlc, the description of that spell implies it is an even more real version of the Sword Of Moonlight than the one you can find in the base game.
ds3 patches and ds3 ring city patches is the same person, uhhh its implied that patches was surviving for so long that he started to hollow (similarly how we saw lucatiel and others hollow in ds2, slowly forgetting) he forgot who he was and called himself lapp, but we do his questline to help him remember who he is. he even wears his normal patches armour after you finish his quest when he helps you with a boss. so this would mean that you shouldve counted it as 1 patches instead of 2
In the Dark Souls series, there's a theory that Patches is, in fact, the furtive pygmy who first found the dark soul, which would explain is seemingly undying nature, and why he gives you his blessing to find the dark soul after his last kick in the DLC.
Patrick Seitz who voices Patches in Armored core for answer, also voices handler Walter in fires of rubicon, so patches may not be in rubicon through name, but he is in spirit
Im surprised to learn that it wasn't in another century but i guess armored core only made 1 appearance in that entire series and it was nineball and it wasn't even a version of nineball that would have the moonlight greatsword
Armored Core 6 has TWO moonlights. On your 3rd playthrough you unlock the 'ML-Redshift' aka Moon Light Redshift. Basically identical but red, stronger normal attacks but weaker charged attacks. So they both have their use cases.
"iconic" doesn't make it longer lasting lol. Washing Pole was only in Dark Souls 1 - 3, and I guess you can count it is as Nagakiba in Elden Ring, but that still loses to Chaos Blade variants
I never considered that patches dying in base ds3 and still appearing in the dlc could actually mean that their might just be generations of patches rather than one true patches
Imo the mortal blade should count towards the chaos blade. The only reason Wolf can wield it is because he himself is immortal due to Kuro. Let us also not forget that it LITERALY KILLS HIM. If patches and Lapp gets 2, the mortal blade is similar enough to the chaos blade
The magic sword Makoto is much more similar to the Chaos blade than the Hiltless. The Hiltless hurts the user physically in an obvious way, but the Makoto is cursed, eating away at the wielder's soul instead. it's unknown exactly why the Chaos blade hurts the user, but it's cursed nature is much more in-line with the Makoto.
Surprised you didn't added Patches from Master of Arena. So Patches was in 2 Armored Core games. Master of Arena in the extra arena. And For Answer. Also, fun fact, Patches' VA from For Answer is in AC6 as Walter.
I feel like the only misatributed reference to the MLGS is in Sekiro, since the Divine Dragon's Sword is much more directly a Seven-Branched Sword (七支刀 in Japanese), which is a real sword with no known origin, which lead to speculation.
It probably doesn't count, being just the AC6 version of Moonlight, only in red and with slightly different stats, but i kinda want to count the IA-C01W7: ML-Redshift Coral Oscillator as the Armored Core 6 version of the Chaos Blade.
I would've also added Storm Ruler fights to this list, but I don't think they really have prevalence outside the Soulsborne games Either way, I can count about 4 including Divine Dragon as an inversion (since the boss has the Storm Blade effect)
I think moonveil might be a reference to armored core, in AC 4 one of the rayleonard pilots uses an ac equipped with the moonlight but he has an emblem of a katana cutting open the moon.
BTW, you should definitely play Armored Core. I am NOT a Mecha fan but I really enjoyed it. I think that it's really worth trying even if you're not interested in the genre. I though I was going to hate it but I bought it to show support to From, and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.
Mortal blade does deal damage to you. when you first get it, it straight up kills you, the only think keeping if from killing you is your immortality. Red and black, tries to kill you, its fs a chaos blade ref
shouldn't Armored Core 6 count as 2 for the moonlight greatsword? as there is a 2nd version of it being more powerful and being red colored, called ML-Redshift, works the exact same as the other moonlight sword in ac6
People making Reddit posts about the game being too difficult Then the obligatory “Git Gud” comments are probably one of the longest running FS traditions….
Just to to add on to the Chikage: It also has a passive health drain when in its transformed state, which adds credence to it being a chaos blade callback
If you count the Chaos Blade and Moonlight Greatsword why not include the Guts sword, Zweihänder, Claymore, Bastard Sword, Lucerne, Scimitar and all the rest that appear in more than one Souls game.
Oh I meant to put this in the pinned comments, thanks for reminding me Basically because a vast majority of those types of weapons are based on real life weapons, so its not really *their* staple if that makes sense
Including the chaos blade is such a bizzare decision that comes out of nowhere, you could have picked something generic like the "longsword" or "claymore" or "whip" or "greatshield that restored health" or even "small shield that excells at blocking magic damage" and you'd have way more appearances 💀
So Patches doesn't have to be named Patches in order to be the character, just some loose ties. I saw the one video as well and wasn't sold. Miyazaki himself states when Patches was first introduced in their games, his concept, and that was in Armored Core: For Answer. I think fans want things to be a certain way and overlook things like that.
I don't really know how you see the bridge collapse segment in Shadow Tower Abyss and not think it's identical to the Catacombs trick he pulls on you. Even if the character was only fully established as we know it today in Demon's Souls and onward, there's no saying whether another dev recalled that and decided to adapt it into Dark Souls, even if it was without Miyazaki's knowledge. He wasn't even in the company yet so he might've not known or recalled that character either
@@BertoPlease No, Miyazaki says Patches came to be in Armored Core, his concept. You are trying to say a concept is evidence of something being a thing, and not a concept being adapted into what you would be known as Patches. Similarities don't matter, because "Patches" has to be in the name to be Patches. This has been the rule for as long as I can remember, set by the guy that conceived him, but fans want to override this fact for what? It's like saying Sephiroth, Geralt and any other white haired, powerful, ambiguous or anti-hero character is Elric of Melniboné because the concept of that archetype came from him. Miyazaki gave an identity to an idea once used, but that idea is not that notable identity that sprang from it.
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Just for full disclosure, the reason I didn't include other frequently reoccuring weapons like Claymore, Uchigatana, etc., is because those are based off of real life weapons for the most part, I wanted to mostly focus on things that are more so Fromsoft's. Similar reason for not including the Guts' adjacent Greatsword, it's mostly a shoutout to one of their influences and not really their thing specifically. Plus something that simply breaks down to *BIG SWORD* leaves a lot of room for interpretation (i.e. would Ludwig's Holy Blade count? It is quite big but also vastly different from what we know as *the* Greatsword. Plus I didn't think there'd be much pre-Demon's.)
Music:
0:00 - The Beginning (Demon's Souls OG OST)
1:00 - Old Hero (Demon's Souls OG OST)
2:34 - Seath the Scaleless (Dark Souls OST)
3:19 - The Lost Sinner (Dark Souls II OST)
4:16 - Ludwig, the Holy Blade (Bloodborne: The Old Hunters OST)
5:53 - Halflight, Spear of the Church (Dark Souls III: The Ringed City OST)
7:11 - Divine Dragon (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice OST)
8:49 - Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon (Elden Ring OST)
9:39 - Fires of Rubicon (Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon OST)
11:01 - Remember (Armored Core: For Answer OST)
13:24 - Dark Reality (King's Field IV OST)
16:20 - Maiden in Black (Demon's Souls OG OST)
patches and Lap are 100% the same patches. he is one of the only people to make it to the end of the world. as he never went hollow till he ran out of people to mess with and sorta lost his own self imposed purpose of punishing greedy people. he was only out for himself, so never became crestfallen risking losing himself. which is why lap reverts to kicking people off a ledge once he reverts his hollowing and regains his memories.
Patches is the opposite of a pal so the name checks out.
@@EatWave Lapp is also Patch in swedish and norwegian
Why hello there
@@yaxbebbb5555 eyo same image. But the 2 sunglasses upgrade.
The true Fromsoft staple is walking into a room and an enemy jumps you from an unseen corner.
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i habitually check corners before i mindlessly walk into a room with an item laid right out in the middle to entice me
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Even in Armored Core fr
Just had King's Field flashbacks. Walking in, all clear and here comes a hard to see ghost cursing you so it's more hard to see....
If you count the ringed city patches as a second, then the “Old Moonlight” spell from Midir should definitely count as a second MLGS too
Oh holy shit I COMPLETELY forgot about that loool. 41 then :)
Oh man, it was such a missed opportunity to explore poisonous swamps throughout Fromsoftware's history
Poisonous environments also date back at least to the King's Field series.
I'd say the most evil one is the abandoned mine in KF4, it's right at the start of the game when poison is at its most dangerous.
The Divine Dragon's sword unfortunately is not a Moonlight Greatsword reference. It is based on Shichishitō (The Seven-branched Sword), a gift from Korea to a Yamato era ruler. Its a popular historical reference in Japan and appears in tons of anime and manga like Bleach and Demon Slayer. Elden Ring even has a version called the "Death Ritual Spear"
Valid argument. As I said I was pretty on the fence too and I just barely counted it, the main reason I did was because Moonlight in the Armored Core games it's a laser sword thing, in an attempt to make it fit the aesthetic of the respective game. I would say they don't necessarily need to be mutually exclusive but I'm still hung up on the fact that you don't get it yourself either
About the DS3 Patches thing, it's definitely the same Patches, even the summon sign literally has him called "Unbreakable Patches", same as his base game name. He's also the same Patches from DS1 just as Andre is also in DS3 and it's 100% the same Andre as he references the Giant Blacksmith from DS1. If it wasn't the same Patches we would have a similar case as Siegward who is obviously a callback to Siegmeyer but is not the same person. As for killing him in the base game and him still coming back, it's probably just Fromsoft not wanting players to miss all his content if they did kill him before and it's not like it breaks the lore or anything, he is an undead afterall. But with all that considered I'd still count him twice in this case as the dlc does enough with him for it to feel like another unique experience.
Regarding killing him, we as players die and watch our bodies disappear all the time. Who knows how long in-universe it takes for our bodies to regenerate. Time is of no essence to a group of Undeads after all.
The hand of malenia bears a pretty interesting resemblence to hiltless, by having only a small tang to hold, and malenia just holds it by the blade anyway.
Oh yeah I can see that
I'm pretty the the hand of malenia is literally just part of malenia's hand
And also it doesn't damage you
I wish you had picked up on the Crescent Axe staple. While not as iconic as Patches or the Moonlight Greatsword, it has appeared in King's Field 1-4, DeS, DS1-3, and ER. It's never been super important or had consistent attributes beyond the name and being an axe of some sort (except for DS3 where it was a halberd), but it's there.
The Karasawa gun has been in every single AC game, so it's probally FromSoftware's second most numerous callback.
Also, you should play AC6, as well as the other AC games. They're very good.
Honestly working on this video got me interested in going through a bunch of these games, especially the King's Fields and Armored Cores 😄
The Cresent ax isn't a callback, it's an actual type of historical ax. Karasawa is the name of one of the developers who works on the AC series. It's named after him.
The axe also appeared in the original Shadow Tower.
Another cool thing about Elden Ring is that technically there are 2 Moonlight Greatsword equivalents: The Dark Moon Greatsword and the Golden Order Greatsword! As a part of Carian wedding culture, queens bestow Moon Greatswords upon their spouse to honour tradition. In-game, Ranni gives us the DMGS and her mother before her, Rennala, would have given Radagon a Full Moon Greatsword, which he'd later reforge into the GOGS.
The mortal blade is definitely a chaos blade. It literally just kills you, even though it's a cutscene
.. you might have a point there
yea, i think the mortal blade is to the chaos blade as the holy moonlight sword is to the moonlight greatsword, it's given a much more important role in the story of the game it's in, while changing some of the elements of its mechanical design to emphasize the unique gameplay of its respective game (trick weapon with an L2 attack for bloodborne, extra weapon in the arsenal that can be used with an L1+R1 combat art input for sekiro)
As peps who got into the Armored Core Series in prep for the release of AC6, and knowing that there's like 16 mainline AC games... yh no the other two options really stood no chance 😭😭😭
The longest running callback in my mind is NPC's just saying "Ah..." at the start of every freaking conversation
looool
For me, it's the mysterious chuckling they'd do after the end of every sentence. For some reason, Elden Ring didn't have as much of this though.
I think that a Crestfallen Character would have made more sense in the running instead of a chaos blade
I did consider it but it's pretty much only in the Souls games no? Can't think of a direct parallel in BB, Seki and Elden Ring, so if anything i'd be about on par with Chaos Blade
@@BertoPlease It’s also in Kingsfield
@@BertoPlease In Elden Ring, Hewg refers to Roderika as crestfallen so that would count I think
Yeah, there's a crestfallen guy in multiple King's Field games.
Kingsfield 2 was my intro to fromsoft and I still love it to this day
Someone didn’t complete Satsuki quest in shrine of storms to know he gives you the real chaos blade “Makoto”
imagine telling that to the guy who has a maiden in black pfp
Ninja blade has a chaos blade equivalent. Its your main weapon when fully upgraded deals self damge and can fire red beam attacks
oh snap, I'll have to look into that
I'll admit it's kind of a stretch, but I think the REDSHIFT is AC6's equivalent to the Chaos Blade. While it doesn't damage your mech, the energy waves it produces are made of Coral, which is stated to be a living consciousness, so the core idea of a sword that burns life force to wield is still there.
100% agree, as well as the Blood ashes of war in Elden Ring
Dude the Moonlight greatsword from Otogi: Myth of Demons and Otogi: Immortal warriors was amazing. The moonlight beam could one-shot everything, including all bosses. I would love it if they remastered that game series
The name "Seathe" is also a callback the pale drake from king's field was named Seathe, you needed the moonlight sword to defeat him. That's why you get the moonlight greatsword from seathe the scaleless in ds1.
Oh snap I forgot about that too, would've mentioned it. Dang
I have to agree that the Moonlight Greatsword seems to have been heavily inspired by the Master Sword from Zelda. Similar upgrade process in many of the games to its original incarnation. Not to mention it has a very similar color scheme and the same gimmick of launching a beam/slash.
Patches can be found in armored core master of arena
I never knew that in KF2 you can get the Moonlight Sword by bypassing the boss. After all, the way here is too far and I don’t want to die.
You kind of remind me of OG Vasko Games. Very well researched and high quality content, while being underrated. Also, you kinda sound like him.
Excellent video and thank you.
I'm surprised you didn't include Crestfallen in this as its own count. He's in DeS, all three Dark Souls games in some capacity, and he was in Kings Field 4.
Seems to me like it'd be roughly on par with Chaos Blade if anything then, but def wasn't aware of KF4
You forgot that Pate shares a duology with Creighton as a callback to Patches. They're like ying and yang
In the 1.00 version of Elden ring rivers of blood comes with bloody slash as opposed to corpse piler. Meaning it originally was a health draining katana
In Sekiro you receive Kusabimaru from Kuro in the Moon Viewing Tower. So it could be argued that Kusabimari is the Moonlight Greatsword.
Elden Ring hints at the idea that the OG moonlight greatsword did exist as a gift for Radagon, but was reshaped into the golden order greatsword. So if you count the darkmoon, you could argue there are two instances of this weapon in Elden Ring
Great list, never realised how many games these concepts make it actoss
There’s still a spot for a Chaos Blade in Elden Ring, imagine a katana with faith scaling, deals madness, and applies small amounts of madness to the user with each swing
Makoto is the chaos blade in Demon's souls 😆
Maldron the assassin might also be a Patches incarnation. I asked DS2 dataminer if Gilligan counts but despite selling the black leather set, being hated by other npcs for being a scammer, a callback to Mephistopheles with Navalan, and giving lore if he trusts you enough, he apparently doesn't count.
You failed to mentioned the sword of Moonlight incantation in DS3 ringed city dlc, the description of that spell implies it is an even more real version of the Sword Of Moonlight than the one you can find in the base game.
Yeah i forgor 😔
ds3 patches and ds3 ring city patches is the same person, uhhh its implied that patches was surviving for so long that he started to hollow (similarly how we saw lucatiel and others hollow in ds2, slowly forgetting) he forgot who he was and called himself lapp, but we do his questline to help him remember who he is. he even wears his normal patches armour after you finish his quest when he helps you with a boss. so this would mean that you shouldve counted it as 1 patches instead of 2
another thing pointing to anayama being patches is the fact that his clothes are made entirely of patches sewn together.
In the Dark Souls series, there's a theory that Patches is, in fact, the furtive pygmy who first found the dark soul, which would explain is seemingly undying nature, and why he gives you his blessing to find the dark soul after his last kick in the DLC.
Lol patches. Myazaki will never stop effing with us through this epic character haha.
Ninja Blade also has one more appearance of the chaos blade, this time aptly being called the ninja blade
Patrick Seitz who voices Patches in Armored core for answer, also voices handler Walter in fires of rubicon, so patches may not be in rubicon through name, but he is in spirit
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I had fun making it 🫸🫷
Lapp???
WHO???
HOW LONG???
literally never heard of this guy. Never seen him. Always missed him. Man that's crazy.
Im surprised to learn that it wasn't in another century but i guess armored core only made 1 appearance in that entire series and it was nineball and it wasn't even a version of nineball that would have the moonlight greatsword
Armored Core 6 has TWO moonlights. On your 3rd playthrough you unlock the 'ML-Redshift' aka Moon Light Redshift. Basically identical but red, stronger normal attacks but weaker charged attacks. So they both have their use cases.
Wow who would've thought it was the moonlight greatsword.
I didn’t think the chaos blade was more iconic than the washing pole
"iconic" doesn't make it longer lasting lol. Washing Pole was only in Dark Souls 1 - 3, and I guess you can count it is as Nagakiba in Elden Ring, but that still loses to Chaos Blade variants
The finger weapon...
heard it from old AC series being the strongest but its name did a big return to ER and some certain messages lol
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I think poison swamps would've been a good addition to this list
I just noticed this, The Divine Dragons Sword looks really similar to the Death Ritual Spear in Elden Ring, meaning it could be a callback to sekiro.
An indie game called "lunacid" has a moonlight greatsword, and a patches/crestfallen type character
forgot about a woman wielding a large cleaver that is insinuated to be a cannibal
I never considered that patches dying in base ds3 and still appearing in the dlc could actually mean that their might just be generations of patches rather than one true patches
Well, coming in I already knew the answer. I was an Armored Core and Echo Night fan prior to playing Dark Souls.
Crazy to count patches twice for dark souls 3. Even crazier to count anything from Sekiro as one of the 3.
King's field IV is my favourite game of all time.
Dark reality is the best piece of music
id kinda say RoB is chaos blade since its stated to be cursed and is very powerful, and the self dmg just became mental damage for people using it xd
Imo the mortal blade should count towards the chaos blade. The only reason Wolf can wield it is because he himself is immortal due to Kuro. Let us also not forget that it LITERALY KILLS HIM. If patches and Lapp gets 2, the mortal blade is similar enough to the chaos blade
Poison swamps. Legit exists in every game
While patches may not directly by in AC6, his voice actor is! Handler Walter is voiced by the same guy
I started with Armored Core 2. There are 2 weapons that recur in almost every game: Moonlight blade and the Karasawa
The magic sword Makoto is much more similar to the Chaos blade than the Hiltless. The Hiltless hurts the user physically in an obvious way, but the Makoto is cursed, eating away at the wielder's soul instead.
it's unknown exactly why the Chaos blade hurts the user, but it's cursed nature is much more in-line with the Makoto.
Surprised you didn't added Patches from Master of Arena. So Patches was in 2 Armored Core games. Master of Arena in the extra arena. And For Answer.
Also, fun fact, Patches' VA from For Answer is in AC6 as Walter.
It seems the more things change the more they stay the same. I had no idea Walter was Patches
patches has been in the series since kings field and im pretty sure the moonlight great sword was also in kings field
I feel like the only misatributed reference to the MLGS is in Sekiro, since the Divine Dragon's Sword is much more directly a Seven-Branched Sword (七支刀 in Japanese), which is a real sword with no known origin, which lead to speculation.
It probably doesn't count, being just the AC6 version of Moonlight, only in red and with slightly different stats, but i kinda want to count the IA-C01W7: ML-Redshift Coral Oscillator as the Armored Core 6 version of the Chaos Blade.
Anayama felt more like Graverobber Blige to me.
You forgot about Artorias sword in ds2 dlc. The one with Fume knight
Th Icon Shield in Elden Ring is a 1:1 replica to the shield Patches uses in Demon's Souls
I would've also added Storm Ruler fights to this list, but I don't think they really have prevalence outside the Soulsborne games
Either way, I can count about 4 including Divine Dragon as an inversion (since the boss has the Storm Blade effect)
*Cries in Kurosawa*
Imo besides the moonlight the karasawa is ac’s longest returning weapon
the moonveil is kinda a mix of chaos blade and the moonlight greatsword
I think moonveil might be a reference to armored core, in AC 4 one of the rayleonard pilots uses an ac equipped with the moonlight but he has an emblem of a katana cutting open the moon.
armored core 6 actually has a second moonlight with the ml redshift (ml standing for moonlight)
what boss theme was playing during the ds3 segment?
Halflight theme
How about the Crestfallen Knight?
BTW, you should definitely play Armored Core. I am NOT a Mecha fan but I really enjoyed it. I think that it's really worth trying even if you're not interested in the genre. I though I was going to hate it but I bought it to show support to From, and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it.
Mortal blade does deal damage to you. when you first get it, it straight up kills you, the only think keeping if from killing you is your immortality. Red and black, tries to kill you, its fs a chaos blade ref
Whats the background songs name used in the ancient times section?
all the music is in the pinned comment 👌
15:11 Scott the Woz?
Thanks, gonna go boot up Elden Ring and kill Patches with the DMGS! B)
Shouldn't the moonlight sword be included twice if you're counting patches twice? There are two separate moonlight swords in DS2
but its literally fake 🤔
shouldn't Armored Core 6 count as 2 for the moonlight greatsword? as there is a 2nd version of it being more powerful and being red colored, called ML-Redshift, works the exact same as the other moonlight sword in ac6
there's a few I might've been able to, there's like 3 variants in the some of the last few ACs, but its okay, Patches is already dead loool
The actual moonlight greatsword is the golden order greatsword
Wait, didnt the er dlc include a chaos blade equivalent or am I going crazy?
Nah, Sword of Night and some Great Katanas, think that's all
Oh and Star Lined Sword
Of course I've heard about Armored Core and King's Field, but wtf is Eternal Ring
funnily enough it's probably up there on the pre-Demon's Souls games people know about, but def not at the same level as KF and AC
It's the MGS.
There are 2 MLGS in Elden Ring
People making Reddit posts about the game being too difficult
Then the obligatory “Git Gud” comments are probably one of the longest running FS traditions….
Just to to add on to the Chikage: It also has a passive health drain when in its transformed state, which adds credence to it being a chaos blade callback
Biggest L in this video was not considering the swamps as a Callback.
Shame on you mah mate. Shame on you.
0/10 video. Do not recommend.
If you count the Chaos Blade and Moonlight Greatsword why not include the Guts sword, Zweihänder, Claymore, Bastard Sword, Lucerne, Scimitar and all the rest that appear in more than one Souls game.
Oh I meant to put this in the pinned comments, thanks for reminding me
Basically because a vast majority of those types of weapons are based on real life weapons, so its not really *their* staple if that makes sense
Oddly enough the flamberge appears In kingsfield and the zweihänder was the greatsword in demon's souls
Dodge
Including the chaos blade is such a bizzare decision that comes out of nowhere, you could have picked something generic like the "longsword" or "claymore" or "whip" or "greatshield that restored health" or even "small shield that excells at blocking magic damage" and you'd have way more appearances 💀
refer to my pinned comment
As an OG Armored Core fanboi, I knew this going into the video 😁
So Patches doesn't have to be named Patches in order to be the character, just some loose ties. I saw the one video as well and wasn't sold. Miyazaki himself states when Patches was first introduced in their games, his concept, and that was in Armored Core: For Answer. I think fans want things to be a certain way and overlook things like that.
I don't really know how you see the bridge collapse segment in Shadow Tower Abyss and not think it's identical to the Catacombs trick he pulls on you. Even if the character was only fully established as we know it today in Demon's Souls and onward, there's no saying whether another dev recalled that and decided to adapt it into Dark Souls, even if it was without Miyazaki's knowledge. He wasn't even in the company yet so he might've not known or recalled that character either
@@BertoPlease No, Miyazaki says Patches came to be in Armored Core, his concept. You are trying to say a concept is evidence of something being a thing, and not a concept being adapted into what you would be known as Patches. Similarities don't matter, because "Patches" has to be in the name to be Patches. This has been the rule for as long as I can remember, set by the guy that conceived him, but fans want to override this fact for what?
It's like saying Sephiroth, Geralt and any other white haired, powerful, ambiguous or anti-hero character is Elric of Melniboné because the concept of that archetype came from him. Miyazaki gave an identity to an idea once used, but that idea is not that notable identity that sprang from it.
Patches may not be in the armoured core 6, but the voice actor for Handler Walter is the same for patches