Though I appreciate so much what you are doing and your general viewpoint is stellar, I am interested in THE ORIGINAL FULL LIST OF THE BIBLIOGRAPHY. The patreon link gives YOUR adapted and modified and enhanced list which is wonderful to have. HOW CAN I FIND THE ORIGINAL LIST. The year 1983 happens to be very important to me for many reasons and the list detailing, the full list detailing the recommendations of Harvard for students of literature is deeply invaluable to me. Please can you publish some kind of link to the full, original list? THANK YOU.
@maryangeladouglas ah, sorry. The complete list is under copyright, so I can't just reproduce it. Is there something specific you're looking for? I'm not sure where you could find this list to buy, but here is the bibliographic information for finding a copy: www.google.com/books/edition/Bibliography_for_English_Undergraduate_C/EX47AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0
@@closereadingpoetryYou know, I don't believe a list of works itself is actually protected by copyright, as it's factual in nature, the same as a list of academy award winners isn't something I (or the Academy) can copyright. Commentary, introductions, descriptions etc. is subject to copyright, however.
Do you know about doctrine of discovery??/ I mean, surely you do. How do you think this will shape the future are others become well hearsed in what it did. I find old works take on a varied meaning when you see truthful history played out. On top of this -- the whole King James story... particular attention to the tunnel that left from his bedroom to that of his gay lovers. Religion is losing is value. I am in favor of reclassifying religion, putting it into culture shaping and like so.....changes as we get smarter and aware of evil intended men.
Self-educated working-class bloke here: So happy to have found your channel! I like peering over the shoulder of those who are more educated and have a look-see at what they're reading. Thank you.
Same here only a woman and a lot older:) wonderful to have such knowledgeable people to raise my thinking skills and reach higher to find more beauty and thought and even learn more of God Himself. Thankfully i read my bible, so off to a good start❤
About your "more educated" comment: Harvard College graduate here. I guarantee you are better read than I -- no reflection on Harvard, it was an incredible place, I dream of going back to that time and place. And I got literate in my field there. But "peering over my shoulder" would have shown you a ton of me playing Doom and Quake late into the night. Sadly I haven't read anything on this list. My high school English teacher had us trying to read some Bede and Chaucer and Milton, but I'm horribly read in terms of literature. Congratulations on what I bet is an excellent self-education!
You'd be surprised at how little most academics know outside their field. Also, all geniuses were self-taught, since a breakthrough discovery or an epiphany leading to a paradigm change obviously cannot be taught.
Здравствуйте я тоже парень уже мужик 36 лет из класса инвалидов и пенсионеров которые учились в глубинке России из 90х. Наши поколения считают пропавшими но это всего лишь постсоветская и советская Россия. И её дальние уголки. Я из города Салават с численностью населения около 130-150 тыщ на 2022-202х год. И наша экология это просто ужасно. У нас много чернозёма и выбросов углекислого газа и углеводорода в речку. ТЭЦ и новая ТЭЦ. Хлебзавод и швейная фабрика. Акриловй завод который нас убивает и нефтепереработка. Благодар которой мы живём с газовой промышленностью. Но мы медленно умираем. Мои деды умерли в 50 лет из-за вредности. Папа перенес 3 инфаркта и инсульта у него отнимает ноги иногда. А тетя инвалид с детства которая не росла дальше и лежала в гипсе полжизни. Сейчас ходит на костылях. Я неврастеник с СДВГ которое стало шизофренией хотя возможно ещё и эпилепсия на фоне врождённой расходящихся глаз. Я тоже не вырос выше 182 см а мой брат 195 см и тоже есть признаки жизни в мегаполисе на постоянной основе работы без отпусков только 2 раза в год
@@closereadingpoetry Whenever you seek something to read, remember: Basic Information Before Leaving Earth = B I B L E (KJV) and a search: BIBLE + FREEMASONRY.
I received my B.A. in English over 20 years ago from a small liberal arts school, and I am happy to say we read almost everything you covered in the video. I really enjoyed listening to this list!
I LOVE this I always appreciate people who passionately talk about literature so it can give me real reactions and recommendations for me to read later
00:01 Harvard literature professors' recommended poetry books in 1983 02:21 Understanding the Bible's influence on English literature 06:46 Classical literature's influence on English poetry 09:02 Harvard Literature students in 1983 studied ancient Greek and Roman literature and criticism, including works by Virgil, Aristotle, Hesiod, and Ovid. 13:39 Recommended reading for understanding Old English and Middle English poetry 15:54 Langland's allegory addresses problems leading up to the Protestant Reformation. 20:05 Recommended literature books for Harvard students in 1983. 22:12 Literary works in 1660s England reflect cultural temper and religious anxieties 26:15 Poetic experimentation and innovation in the early 17th century 28:22 Harvard literature students read classical and devotional poetry 32:49 Dryden's essay on dramatic poetry and its influence on English literary criticism 34:47 Classic poetry books forming the foundation of English literary criticism. 38:50 Insight into Samuel Johnson's view of history and humanity. 40:42 Harvard recommends key literature books of the 18th century. 44:47 Harvard Literature students read influential poetry books from the Romantic Period 46:51 Exploration of the idea of imagination through various fields of literature 51:02 Harvard Literature students read and discuss poetry by Ed Gren and Ralph Waldo Emerson. 53:01 Walt Whitman's emergence as a prophetic voice in American poetry 57:31 The Norton anthology of theory in criticism supplements the Harvard list and covers developments in theory and criticism up to contemporary writers. Crafted by Merlin AI.
I'm an Arabic native & I hold a BA English Linguistics & Literature & English poetry & Arabic poetry alike are of interest, but, I struggled to find an English community or communion of poetry just as us Arabs we really value poetry & we're divided to traditionalists & dissenters in poetry & poetics just as hiw Westerners who are divided to conservatives & progressives in politics. I think as a muslim myself & someone who recites Quranic verses, the bible is familiar to me & the biblical allusions in English literary works are not that uncanny, but Greek & Roman mythology & philosophy & overall classics I need to acquaint myself with, I read the Republic by Plato & I have poetics by Aristotle. There are Classical Arabic texts that had assisted me in my journey with English studies ( I'm a grad of the British Open University by tbe way) & they're relevant to literary criticism, poetics & translation. Apologies for the long comment, but you don't know how it is like how shall I express it a hidden gem maybe to find a passionate & energetic & well knowledgeable specialist in poetry like you, so thank you so much your effort is highly appreciated.
You definitely have set for yourself a noble quest. And it is kind of you to share with others your insights and personal reflections on literature, particularly poetry, and its study vis a vis Harvard and beyond Harvard as well.. I especially love your references to out of print materials as I do feel literature being for the ages as well as our own time in its surpassing sense, for each of our unique consciousness as individuals as well, it is good to be situated not only in our own time with regard to bibliographic materials. We are not limited to present day commentaries anymore than we are limited to contemporary literature. Good to have as wide and as deep a study as possible. Thank You and hope all your dreams come true regarding your ongoing goals, mission and sphere of influence for the good. A most worthy effort.
I’m a homeschooling mother. I’m reading so many great books to my children and I’m starting a list for their later years in Highschool. This list was helpful. I am going to have to read many of these books myself and then add them to their list. ❤
@@melindalemmon2149 why would you emulate what harvard students in 1983 had to read? it shows some kind of cheap admiration for harvard, rather than critically thinking about the western canon of literature besides that, homeschooling will make sure no other opinion but the parents' will be considered, clearly
@@jodawgsup "why would you emulate what harvard students in 1983 had to read" ... well, the list mirrors what I read as an undergrad at a state university, contemporaneously. The list is an amazing resource because -- the classics of English poetry are, frankly, timeless. So read away, and enjoy!
Wow! Subscription earned. I’ve been looking for a good poetry channel for years and TH-cam finally sent one that loves the subject as much as I do. I’m going through your back catalogue right now and am loving your Shakespearean sonnet exploration. Thank you for taking the time to make these and I’m wishing you much success as you make plain and enjoyable this wonderful art.
What a treasure trove; thank you for sharing it with such care and detail. For what it’s worth, I like the Seamus Heaney version of Sir Gawain and The Green Knight; we read it each year at Christmas by candlelight (probably the most rarefied thing I’ve ever typed & in no way representative of my day to day life!); my kids will actually listen to it; I think the story is a good one for kids.
Your knowledge and insight is so fascinating, I feel like I could listen to your analysis all day. Academically stimulating and thought provoking without being gatekeepy, great video!
Thank you very much for giving us an insight of literature along history-time. It is very important to understand and appreciate literature the way you expose it for the inexperienced person like me.
Hi. My name is John (João), I'm from Brazil, and maybe that's reason enough to motivate someone to question the claim I'm going to make here, but I do believe that you and Benjamin McEvoy have the best literature channels in the website right now. Congratulations for your journey!
Olá, João. Se me permite, eu gostaria de tomar a liberdade de indicar um brasileiro pouco conhecido e com um trabalho atual muito relevante em arte literária: Paulo Cantarelli.
Today's list includes "Flat Tires" by the BLM advocate and lesbian, Trass Honiree. Also "Bisbee is Strong" and "We's Got Yo Baks," by our Antifa representative, Carlos Sanchez. Personally, "Your God is a Mouse," by Russell Chomsky is a great classic, published in 2014 by Epic House Press.
Sounds good, I'm off to look at some of these. Quick note: for Seamus Heaney, it's pronounced like hee-nee, and his name would even be unrecognisable as hay-nee if said in Ireland. Pronunciation is very important for Irish names, already forcibly Anglicised by our nearest neighbours, and especially important for a poet whose works are often concerned with colonialism.
Thank you for the info! As a native Asian, whose country had to use alphabet from colonisation, I feel that and am genuinely helped with pronunciation of names of other cultures.
finding this channel feels like a gift! I want to get more into poetry, since I do like it but I don't have that much experience with it as I have with novels or short stories 😊I'm looking forward to watching more content from you
I am holding a phd in german literature studies and just stumbled across this channel, and i am so happy to finally have found content on my subject of expertise (sort of) that is intellectually inspiring. Thank you mate!
May I ask what you would recommend reading to learn more about German literature? I recently read 'The Life of Simplicius Simplicissimus' by Hans Jacob Christoffel von Grimmelhausen, and I have also been exploring German poetry. I have fallen in love and want to study more. ❤
@@billiechristine4034 Grimmelshausen for sure is the historic starting point into Neuere Deutsche Literatur, so great choice! I am very happy to recommend you some German writers. Is there an epoch or a topic you are particularly interested in? Do you read the German originals or English translations?
Goethe's Faust is an obligatory read, then everything really becomes more or less a matter of personal preferences and interests. I recommend to also read Schiller's Wilhelm Tell, ETA Hoffmann's der Sandmann, Heinrich Mann's Der Untertan (I do not like his brother Thomas, thus no recommendation here), Erich Kästner's Fabian, Alfred Döblin's Berlin Alexanderplatz, Oskar Maria Graf's Das Leben meiner Mutter and Wir sind Gefangene (everything by Graf is brilliant), Erich Maria Remarque's "Im Westen nichts neues", some stories by Ludwig Thoma If you want to have a good laugh, and if you want to read poetry, on which I am not an expert, you could try Rilke and some expressionists. But reading poetry really depends on your German skills.
Another idea: maybe there are some good contemporary retellings of mediaeval German literature such as Nibelungenlied, Parzival, or Tristan in English available?
@tobiassupercool2833 Thank you so much for your reply! I will definitely look into all of the books you have suggested. I am reading in English translation, my German is poor and comes from what I picked up from my grandparents as a child. There is no specific topic that I am particularly interested in, I do enjoy historical fiction, though, especially if I can learn of the time period it is set in. I currently have copies of Tristan and Parzival in English, and a dual-language copy of Faust. I am just unsure of where to start with those, maybe the oldest first?
Amazing! I studied comp lit at Univerity of Toronto St George and we followed a similar plan of study in 1st year. Funny you should mention Frye, as he was a lecturer at my school. I had the great privilege of perusing some of his library and watched his class on the bible which is archived on DVD and can be rented out at the library. It's refreshing to see a young person such as yourself interested in reading the bible as literature. Sincere bestvwishes
My ears perked up when you mentioned that Marjorie Garber, but especially Walter Jackson Bate, were on the committee. A great teacher and then an even greater biographer! I’ll have to take the list and then bow out. Thank you for this lovely video.
@@blazel462 I'm in grad school in NY and i believe we need to be aware of systemic issues with race and injustice but liberal arts education is dying. It used to be a place of ideas where different schools of thought come together and there was an inevitable benefit to meeting people who didn't think like you or have your background. Now there is this neoliberal left wing orthadoxy that wants to tell you what you have to think and what you're allowed to say and if you don't conform they try to use the pressure of the group to make you. It's disgusting. I'm used to that garbage from the right. This is new and I want no parts of it. I love ideas. I lean classically left and liberal but I'll make my own mind up thank you and I have no tolerance for those who use mobs to shout down dissent left or right. Debate, respond, use your voice to respond but you don't get to silence. We've lost reason. We've tried to use force to drive ideas we don't like underground which only helps them metasticize in their own echo chambers. This is not the way. Additional related book recommendations: The Righteous Mind and The Coddling of the Arnerican Mind by Jonathan Haidt.
Sincere question - how did you manage to consume all of this?? I studied literature at a far less prestigious university in the UK in 2012, and the reading list was a fraction of the size of this Harvard list. I barely found time to read a third of the required reading, attend lectures, read supplementary critical texts, complete written assignments and have some form of social life. I’m considering jumping into the reading list from this video, but I’m certain to would take me over a decade to complete. Were you able to retain a decent knowledge of each text after finishing? Or did you need to just skim read and hope for the best?
16:49 I think about how, if we zoom out to look at a larger picture of humanity (&/or history), it seems to me that it is almost as if all these great poets and authors and writers and teachers were having a conversation across time, discussing themes and then elaborating upon these concepts through words (especially seen through the written word) to find some sort of answer to the question of "What does it mean to be human". To be... or not to be.
How interesting as I graduated in 1981 from Ripon College. Several years later I had asked my English teacher, Dr. William Shang, to share with me his top 20 novels of all time. Fantastic list. Read some but not enough. There’s never time! Thanks for the video! 😊
I wish I had come across such a channel when I was a literature student. You produce very high quality content and provide people with a great roadmap, thank you. It also would be great if you shared a written list of the books mentioned in the video.
So glad I found this video in my recommendations, lately I have been collecting so many books to read some in here were repeats, but there were a lot of ones I still haven't heard about. Classical literature is so fascinating!! Can't believe I slept on it for so long- well I have been reading some classics like the Bible 😂 here and there so maybe I did not neglect reading them entirely, but only now do I understand this big historical context and the differences between all the eras. I enjoyed reading egzistentialism philosophy by Simone, now I am reading Homeric texts. This channel gives great joy.
also fun fact from a Greek student that LOVES literature probably Homer wasn't just a man it was a team of poets. What we know for sure is that Homer was a nickname. And IF you are going to read "his" work you should know that he uses elements from the time he lived in and not the time in the poems. Also if you ever hear the rumor that Aristotle was a sexist it is an oxymoron lie. You would know it from the way he presents women in his plays, for instance Eleni , who is clearly smarter than her man even though she acts as if she is not . I really hope deeply that you read these and also you MUST read more recent Greek literature .You should look up Alki Zei
Last part of my research there are two literary techniques used often in poetry similes and metaphor. Father of American poetry is Walt Whitman. Types of poetry are narrative, lyric , dramatic. First American poet is Anne Bradstreet, she was also pioneering. Most famous American poets Emily Dickinson, Robert frost , Sylvia Plath, Langston Hughes. Themes of American poetry justice ,war , racism , cultural identity. All of us know Harvard University is one of most prestigious universities in the world. As I read there several poet studied at Harvard University such as Henry brook Adams , Charles Ashbery , Stephen Burt , Rafael campo , Thomas gold Appleton , oni Buchan . I hope I learn a lot from your knowledge. Merry Christmas happy new year. Iam so sorry to be little long but reading and writing both are great ways to improve our English as none native speakers. Good luck to you your dearest ones .
2:35 - "It's difficult to underestimate the importance of the Bible ... " - WHAT??!! NO! It's difficult to OVERESTIMATE the importance, etc. - unless you mean that the Bible is completely insignificant. It's difficult to overestimate the importance of using common phrases correctly.
For anyone feeling overwhelmed at tackling this lot, you might look at the work of Ronald Blythe, particularly his short essays for the publication the Church Times (collected in 'Words from Wormingford'). The essays are arranged around the church year/the seasons, and although always with a Christian message, it's done very lightly and with vast, fascinating reference to a host of writers in the English language. It will send you off to look up many of the writers he quotes. Blythe was also a fascinating man. He died about a year ago, but knew many interesting people in his life. He inherited the ancient yeoman's house he lived in for most of his adult life from his friend the artist John Nash (and because of John was one of our last links with the Bloomsbury Group). He worked with composer Benjamin Britten for the Aldeburgh music festival, and through Britten got to know EM Forster. He even, although a gay man, had a brief relationship with Patricia Highsmith.
I’m a big book nerd and try to read purposefully, thank you for this list. When I went to college, I wish we read books like this. Love thinking deeply and critically. Glad I was able to find you on TH-cam.
I've found your channel tonight and I loved it. This viddeo is great! I can fully understand you! I'll be watching more video to keep practicing my English skills :) Best from Brazil.
On Shakespeare, you, yourself, will enjoy the following three: Carolyn Spurgeon's Shakespeare's Imagery and What It Tells Us, Miriam Joseph's Shakespeare's Use of the Arts of Language, and Wolfang Clement's Shakespeare's Imagery. Of course, there are so many (and more every year) but I cannot not mention them any time we're recommending Shakespeare studies. I hope you do well in the field you choose, but be careful as there are a lot of landmines in front of a graduate in English. Also, I hope you had a chance to study with Paul Cantor, one of my favorites, who almost always has something nice to say about Harold Bloom.
On occasion I read poetry, but the hardest - and longest - poem I have ever read was THE RING AND THE BOOK by Robert Browning. It is Shakesperean in scope - deep and grandiose beyond belief - and twice the length of Milton's PARADISE LOST. It had better be on this list somewhere.
BEST POETRY BOOK OF 2024 Rain, rain, go away And come back when I’m in a cafe Then you can pour, pour, pour While I ponder my future And the Art of War I’ll have no umbrella and no place to go So please miss barista, another cup of jo Crackling of a fire place and some nice acoustic tunes It could only be better, if you were in the same room Stuck in a trap That’s where our cell is Looking outside Wondering where help is But we don’t see How deep our well is It goes from Heaven To down where Hell is We got each other We kings, we Elvis Using your community That’s where wealth is But people be greedy Thinking with their pelvis Hoarding their talent Acting monetarily selfish Just help me get mine And we’ll all eat shellfish But deny me again See what color the belt is If I’m a fire You’re the heat If I’m a song You’re the beat If I’m a dessert You’re the sweet And if I get lost You’re the street That gets me back To where I want to be I could live 100 lives And without you None Complete How do I describe it? I choose you over pie, fries And other good food I got a sweet tooth Just for you Late night cravings And right before lunch Even after Thanksgiving I still eat you by the bunch My gluttony for you Won’t turn off like a faucet So my tombstone will read It was death by chocolate www.amazon.com/dp/B0D8RDCMCF
This sounds like an excellent list. Please print it somewhere, if not on TH-cam. I tried to copy it out from the video, but too often I couldn't make out the authors' names, and the actual book covers weren't shown long enough to get the information.
I will do that shortly and add it for free to my Patreon at www.patreon.com/CloseReadingPoetry I'll also add more to it than I could have in this short video. Thanks for watching, @Janemaskell4038
Really excellent content. This has made me realize that I have neglected poetry. I’m going to use this video as a starting point. Thanks very much. Keep up the good work.
I love physics and it’s my best subject. Honestly, the reason why I’m reading poetry is because I want to sharpen my “other side of the brain”. Don’t worry, it gets easier
Could you please make a list of the best books to read fiction and nonfiction? I like poems, but I prefer detailed reading. Like Harverd list. Older to newer.
No Rupi Kaur? That booklet is more of a tragedy than anything else. (jk) This was so interesting, if only I could find something similar for my personal studies in Spanish and Portuguese literature.
you should look up if there aren't any reading lists from prestigious universities from countries of your target language. University of sao paulo if you're studying brazilian portuguese for example. In spanish, there is UNAM (mexico), UBA (argentina) and some more that i can't quite remember, but ik they were from chile, perú and Colombia. I also don't know any universities from Portugal. I hope this was useful! I wouldn't dare to recommend authors though, those are very personal choices lol.
I mean to point to a certain genre of literature, not to be dismissive. Mythology doesn't necessarily mean fiction, and there are such things as "true myths," or at least myths that contain historical and cultural truths.
this video was beautiful and so insightful!! thank you for sharing. i do have a quandary though. i’ve always wondered about educational lists like this. whether it be for literature or any other kind of subject. humans will keep making things and expanding upon ideas and influences from before their time for hundreds upon thousands of years and there will reach a point in the future where humans at that time will not possibly be able to read, analyze, and study everything that has been canonized as imperative to our culture. so my question is this: where is the threshold in human history/the future where we don’t expect humans to know everything influential that has come before them?
Hmm. That’s a difficult but important question. I may think differently in a few years, but here’s my opinion. Perhaps the threshold is always “now” and goes as far back as the earliest literature - that is, written literature. I think of literary history in terms of traditions rather than canons. As literary values shift, poets of different eras value different poets of the past. According to the neoclassical values of the 18th century, metaphysical poetry was considered gimmicky and artless. The 18th-c readers, on the whole, preferred the values of classical literature. By the Romantic standards of the 19th c, neoclassical poetry of the 18thc was regarded as artificial and passionless. The Romantics preferred Shakespeare and metaphysical poetry for their imaginative energy and extravagance. By early 20th-c tastes, the Romantics were considered naïve and sentimental. Many valued order and realistic representation and turned again to Pope, Dryden, and the classics. Literary tastes change. Poets who were neglected by one age are praised in another; poets who were popular in their lifetimes are forgotten by the future. Some figures like Homer have always been admired; true. But Homer was often admired for different reasons in different periods. The same is true for Shakespeare, whose idolization by readers began in the late eighteenth century. He was never popular in his own time as he is today. But one reason why Homer and Shakespeare will always be “canonical” is because of their enduring presence in the poetry that came after them and in the amount of literature they inspired into being. This Harvard 1983 list seems to choose works which have been most enduringly valued, the most influential to other poets and traditions. I can’t possibly keep up with contemporary poetry, for example, so I don’t try. Even if one excludes contemporary poets, the list of poets who are both neglected and important are so great that no one will ever be able to read, analyze, or study them properly.
Interesting video. Thank you for the suggestions like Reading *Iliad and Odysseus* . I enjoyed watching the French 1979s cartoon _Ulysses 31_ Also *Contemporary Poetry added to music* (even modern *rap music*) is impressive What do you/ TH-camrs think of: Little prince? Or Alice in wonderland? Or huckleberry finn? Keep sharing
Here are my 3 favourite poems - 'Love In Their Little Veins Inspires' by Thomas Shadwell ( c.1642 - 1692 ) 'The Blind Boy' by Colley Cibber ( 1671 - 1757 ) 'Sonnet To England' by Alfred Austin ( 1835 - 1913 )
What a great channel! Thank you very much for your efforts, selflessness and humility to share whatever knowledge you have in the field of English literatre with those who are interested. A great video as are all the other ones published before and after this one. It would be a great gesture to share with us the updated syllabi of such marvellous university as Harvard
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You can find my version of the list here for free: www.patreon.com/posts/95141707
Truly amazing. Thank you so much.
Though I appreciate so much what you are doing and your general viewpoint is stellar, I am interested in THE ORIGINAL FULL LIST OF THE BIBLIOGRAPHY. The patreon link gives YOUR adapted and modified and enhanced list which is wonderful to have. HOW CAN I FIND THE ORIGINAL LIST. The year 1983 happens to be very important to me for many reasons and the list detailing, the full list detailing the recommendations of Harvard for students of literature is deeply invaluable to me. Please can you publish some kind of link to the full, original list? THANK YOU.
@maryangeladouglas ah, sorry. The complete list is under copyright, so I can't just reproduce it. Is there something specific you're looking for? I'm not sure where you could find this list to buy, but here is the bibliographic information for finding a copy: www.google.com/books/edition/Bibliography_for_English_Undergraduate_C/EX47AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0
@@closereadingpoetryYou know, I don't believe a list of works itself is actually protected by copyright, as it's factual in nature, the same as a list of academy award winners isn't something I (or the Academy) can copyright. Commentary, introductions, descriptions etc. is subject to copyright, however.
Do you know about doctrine of discovery??/ I mean, surely you do. How do you think this will shape the future are others become well hearsed in what it did. I find old works take on a varied meaning when you see truthful history played out. On top of this -- the whole King James story... particular attention to the tunnel that left from his bedroom to that of his gay lovers. Religion is losing is value. I am in favor of reclassifying religion, putting it into culture shaping and like so.....changes as we get smarter and aware of evil intended men.
Self-educated working-class bloke here: So happy to have found your channel! I like peering over the shoulder of those who are more educated and have a look-see at what they're reading. Thank you.
How cool
Same here only a woman and a lot older:) wonderful to have such knowledgeable people to raise my thinking skills and reach higher to find more beauty and thought and even learn more of God Himself. Thankfully i read my bible, so off to a good start❤
About your "more educated" comment: Harvard College graduate here. I guarantee you are better read than I -- no reflection on Harvard, it was an incredible place, I dream of going back to that time and place. And I got literate in my field there. But "peering over my shoulder" would have shown you a ton of me playing Doom and Quake late into the night. Sadly I haven't read anything on this list. My high school English teacher had us trying to read some Bede and Chaucer and Milton, but I'm horribly read in terms of literature. Congratulations on what I bet is an excellent self-education!
You'd be surprised at how little most academics know outside their field. Also, all geniuses were self-taught, since a breakthrough discovery or an epiphany leading to a paradigm change obviously cannot be taught.
Здравствуйте я тоже парень уже мужик 36 лет из класса инвалидов и пенсионеров которые учились в глубинке России из 90х. Наши поколения считают пропавшими но это всего лишь постсоветская и советская Россия. И её дальние уголки. Я из города Салават с численностью населения около 130-150 тыщ на 2022-202х год. И наша экология это просто ужасно. У нас много чернозёма и выбросов углекислого газа и углеводорода в речку. ТЭЦ и новая ТЭЦ. Хлебзавод и швейная фабрика. Акриловй завод который нас убивает и нефтепереработка. Благодар которой мы живём с газовой промышленностью. Но мы медленно умираем. Мои деды умерли в 50 лет из-за вредности. Папа перенес 3 инфаркта и инсульта у него отнимает ноги иногда. А тетя инвалид с детства которая не росла дальше и лежала в гипсе полжизни. Сейчас ходит на костылях. Я неврастеник с СДВГ которое стало шизофренией хотя возможно ещё и эпилепсия на фоне врождённой расходящихся глаз. Я тоже не вырос выше 182 см а мой брат 195 см и тоже есть признаки жизни в мегаполисе на постоянной основе работы без отпусков только 2 раза в год
This is honestly a very underrated TH-cam channel. Congratulations, I appreciate your work here and hope you keep improving.
Thank you!
@@closereadingpoetry Whenever you seek something to read, remember:
Basic Information Before Leaving Earth = B I B L E (KJV)
and a search: BIBLE + FREEMASONRY.
Not going to lie, best comment on TH-cam!!!!
No man is friendless who has God and the companionship of good books.
Talk to the cool. Often, books.
What a great saying! Thank you for sharing.
well…i have one of those.
@@fairyfarmsthe fact you typed that makes me doubt you have either
That’s so sad.
I received my B.A. in English over 20 years ago from a small liberal arts school, and I am happy to say we read almost everything you covered in the video. I really enjoyed listening to this list!
I LOVE this I always appreciate people who passionately talk about literature so it can give me real reactions and recommendations for me to read later
00:01 Harvard literature professors' recommended poetry books in 1983
02:21 Understanding the Bible's influence on English literature
06:46 Classical literature's influence on English poetry
09:02 Harvard Literature students in 1983 studied ancient Greek and Roman literature and criticism, including works by Virgil, Aristotle, Hesiod, and Ovid.
13:39 Recommended reading for understanding Old English and Middle English poetry
15:54 Langland's allegory addresses problems leading up to the Protestant Reformation.
20:05 Recommended literature books for Harvard students in 1983.
22:12 Literary works in 1660s England reflect cultural temper and religious anxieties
26:15 Poetic experimentation and innovation in the early 17th century
28:22 Harvard literature students read classical and devotional poetry
32:49 Dryden's essay on dramatic poetry and its influence on English literary criticism
34:47 Classic poetry books forming the foundation of English literary criticism.
38:50 Insight into Samuel Johnson's view of history and humanity.
40:42 Harvard recommends key literature books of the 18th century.
44:47 Harvard Literature students read influential poetry books from the Romantic Period
46:51 Exploration of the idea of imagination through various fields of literature
51:02 Harvard Literature students read and discuss poetry by Ed Gren and Ralph Waldo Emerson.
53:01 Walt Whitman's emergence as a prophetic voice in American poetry
57:31 The Norton anthology of theory in criticism supplements the Harvard list and covers developments in theory and criticism up to contemporary writers.
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I'm an Arabic native & I hold a BA English Linguistics & Literature & English poetry & Arabic poetry alike are of interest, but, I struggled to find an English community or communion of poetry just as us Arabs we really value poetry & we're divided to traditionalists & dissenters in poetry & poetics just as hiw Westerners who are divided to conservatives & progressives in politics.
I think as a muslim myself & someone who recites Quranic verses, the bible is familiar to me & the biblical allusions in English literary works are not that uncanny, but Greek & Roman mythology & philosophy & overall classics I need to acquaint myself with, I read the Republic by Plato & I have poetics by Aristotle.
There are Classical Arabic texts that had assisted me in my journey with English studies ( I'm a grad of the British Open University by tbe way) & they're relevant to literary criticism, poetics & translation.
Apologies for the long comment, but you don't know how it is like how shall I express it a hidden gem maybe to find a passionate & energetic & well knowledgeable specialist in poetry like you, so thank you so much your effort is highly appreciated.
You definitely have set for yourself a noble quest. And it is kind of you to share with others your insights and personal reflections on literature, particularly poetry, and its study vis a vis Harvard and beyond Harvard as well.. I especially love your references to out of print materials as I do feel literature being for the ages as well as our own time in its surpassing sense, for each of our unique consciousness as individuals as well, it is good to be situated not only in our own time with regard to bibliographic materials. We are not limited to present day commentaries anymore than we are limited to contemporary literature. Good to have as wide and as deep a study as possible. Thank You and hope all your dreams come true regarding your ongoing goals, mission and sphere of influence for the good. A most worthy effort.
I’m a homeschooling mother. I’m reading so many great books to my children and I’m starting a list for their later years in Highschool. This list was helpful. I am going to have to read many of these books myself and then add them to their list. ❤
pathetic
How so? @@jodawgsup
@@melindalemmon2149 why would you emulate what harvard students in 1983 had to read? it shows some kind of cheap admiration for harvard, rather than critically thinking about the western canon of literature
besides that, homeschooling will make sure no other opinion but the parents' will be considered, clearly
@@jodawgsup "why would you emulate what harvard students in 1983 had to read" ... well, the list mirrors what I read as an undergrad at a state university, contemporaneously. The list is an amazing resource because -- the classics of English poetry are, frankly, timeless. So read away, and enjoy!
@@TomTermini and at university, you read these pieces of literature through the lense and interpretation of your mother?
Wow! Subscription earned. I’ve been looking for a good poetry channel for years and TH-cam finally sent one that loves the subject as much as I do.
I’m going through your back catalogue right now and am loving your Shakespearean sonnet exploration.
Thank you for taking the time to make these and I’m wishing you much success as you make plain and enjoyable this wonderful art.
any secret britney homies make it?
I just discovered your channel. You’re doing something really meaningful here.
What a treasure trove; thank you for sharing it with such care and detail. For what it’s worth, I like the Seamus Heaney version of Sir Gawain and The Green Knight; we read it each year at Christmas by candlelight (probably the most rarefied thing I’ve ever typed & in no way representative of my day to day life!); my kids will actually listen to it; I think the story is a good one for kids.
Love that - what a great tradition!
Your knowledge and insight is so fascinating, I feel like I could listen to your analysis all day. Academically stimulating and thought provoking without being gatekeepy, great video!
Thank you very much for giving us an insight of literature along history-time. It is very important to understand and appreciate literature the way you expose it for the inexperienced person like me.
Hi. My name is John (João), I'm from Brazil, and maybe that's reason enough to motivate someone to question the claim I'm going to make here, but I do believe that you and Benjamin McEvoy have the best literature channels in the website right now. Congratulations for your journey!
Olá, João. Se me permite, eu gostaria de tomar a liberdade de indicar um brasileiro pouco conhecido e com um trabalho atual muito relevante em arte literária: Paulo Cantarelli.
I’ll take Ben McEvoy and the very great, sublime Harold Bloom - may he rest in peace.
@@otaviow2993 ola, Otávio. Tudo bem, e vc? Obrigado pela indicação; vou procurar AGR msm
Today's list includes "Flat Tires" by the BLM advocate and lesbian, Trass Honiree. Also "Bisbee is Strong" and "We's Got Yo Baks," by our Antifa representative, Carlos Sanchez. Personally, "Your God is a Mouse," by Russell Chomsky is a great classic, published in 2014 by Epic House Press.
Sounds good, I'm off to look at some of these. Quick note: for Seamus Heaney, it's pronounced like hee-nee, and his name would even be unrecognisable as hay-nee if said in Ireland. Pronunciation is very important for Irish names, already forcibly Anglicised by our nearest neighbours, and especially important for a poet whose works are often concerned with colonialism.
Thank you for the info! As a native Asian, whose country had to use alphabet from colonisation, I feel that and am genuinely helped with pronunciation of names of other cultures.
Maith thú a Sheáin.
finding this channel feels like a gift! I want to get more into poetry, since I do like it but I don't have that much experience with it as I have with novels or short stories
😊I'm looking forward to watching more content from you
I am holding a phd in german literature studies and just stumbled across this channel, and i am so happy to finally have found content on my subject of expertise (sort of) that is intellectually inspiring. Thank you mate!
May I ask what you would recommend reading to learn more about German literature?
I recently read 'The Life of Simplicius Simplicissimus' by Hans Jacob Christoffel von Grimmelhausen, and I have also been exploring German poetry. I have fallen in love and want to study more. ❤
@@billiechristine4034 Grimmelshausen for sure is the historic starting point into Neuere Deutsche Literatur, so great choice! I am very happy to recommend you some German writers. Is there an epoch or a topic you are particularly interested in? Do you read the German originals or English translations?
Goethe's Faust is an obligatory read, then everything really becomes more or less a matter of personal preferences and interests. I recommend to also read Schiller's Wilhelm Tell, ETA Hoffmann's der Sandmann, Heinrich Mann's Der Untertan (I do not like his brother Thomas, thus no recommendation here), Erich Kästner's Fabian, Alfred Döblin's Berlin Alexanderplatz, Oskar Maria Graf's Das Leben meiner Mutter and Wir sind Gefangene (everything by Graf is brilliant), Erich Maria Remarque's "Im Westen nichts neues", some stories by Ludwig Thoma If you want to have a good laugh, and if you want to read poetry, on which I am not an expert, you could try Rilke and some expressionists. But reading poetry really depends on your German skills.
Another idea: maybe there are some good contemporary retellings of mediaeval German literature such as Nibelungenlied, Parzival, or Tristan in English available?
@tobiassupercool2833 Thank you so much for your reply! I will definitely look into all of the books you have suggested. I am reading in English translation, my German is poor and comes from what I picked up from my grandparents as a child. There is no specific topic that I am particularly interested in, I do enjoy historical fiction, though, especially if I can learn of the time period it is set in.
I currently have copies of Tristan and Parzival in English, and a dual-language copy of Faust. I am just unsure of where to start with those, maybe the oldest first?
Thank you so much, if it isn’t too much trouble, would there be a way for us to get the entire list? Thanks again, I’m greatly enjoying this.
just pinned the comment with a link to a list!
Amazing! I studied comp lit at Univerity of Toronto St George and we followed a similar plan of study in 1st year. Funny you should mention Frye, as he was a lecturer at my school. I had the great privilege of perusing some of his library and watched his class on the bible which is archived on DVD and can be rented out at the library. It's refreshing to see a young person such as yourself interested in reading the bible as literature. Sincere bestvwishes
My ears perked up when you mentioned that Marjorie Garber, but especially Walter Jackson Bate, were on the committee. A great teacher and then an even greater biographer! I’ll have to take the list and then bow out.
Thank you for this lovely video.
also loved prof bate. spent some time at i tatti with kaiser.
It would be great to find a similar list from Harvard today and compare.
It doesn't carry classics to the same extent. It's why people are questioning education there anymore
@@mgb5170 Maybe because literate people are politically dangerous?
harvard has turned into a woke joke…
@@beninchicago5871you got it
@@blazel462 I'm in grad school in NY and i believe we need to be aware of systemic issues with race and injustice but liberal arts education is dying. It used to be a place of ideas where different schools of thought come together and there was an inevitable benefit to meeting people who didn't think like you or have your background. Now there is this neoliberal left wing orthadoxy that wants to tell you what you have to think and what you're allowed to say and if you don't conform they try to use the pressure of the group to make you. It's disgusting. I'm used to that garbage from the right. This is new and I want no parts of it. I love ideas. I lean classically left and liberal but I'll make my own mind up thank you and I have no tolerance for those who use mobs to shout down dissent left or right.
Debate, respond, use your voice to respond but you don't get to silence. We've lost reason. We've tried to use force to drive ideas we don't like underground which only helps them metasticize in their own echo chambers. This is not the way.
Additional related book recommendations: The Righteous Mind and The Coddling of the Arnerican Mind by Jonathan Haidt.
Really fascinating to re-think the history of the bible and then how that impacts literature. Thanks for your video ❤
I enjoyed this Poetry while studying Poetry at Harvard in 1983. Thank You for the Flashback.
Sincere question - how did you manage to consume all of this?? I studied literature at a far less prestigious university in the UK in 2012, and the reading list was a fraction of the size of this Harvard list. I barely found time to read a third of the required reading, attend lectures, read supplementary critical texts, complete written assignments and have some form of social life. I’m considering jumping into the reading list from this video, but I’m certain to would take me over a decade to complete. Were you able to retain a decent knowledge of each text after finishing? Or did you need to just skim read and hope for the best?
Lovely channel! Subscribed ✨
Thanks! And likewise!
16:49 I think about how, if we zoom out to look at a larger picture of humanity (&/or history), it seems to me that it is almost as if all these great poets and authors and writers and teachers were having a conversation across time, discussing themes and then elaborating upon these concepts through words (especially seen through the written word) to find some sort of answer to the question of "What does it mean to be human". To be... or not to be.
well said!
I am a literature specialist- thank you for verifying what I try to express to my students every day ❤
Well done young lad, and I commend you for the 'Dark Academy' aesthetic...up to and including the brownish grey sweater.
How interesting as I graduated in 1981 from Ripon College. Several years later I had asked my English teacher, Dr. William Shang, to share with me his top 20 novels of all time. Fantastic list. Read some but not enough. There’s never time! Thanks for the video! 😊
Plz do share the list!
I love this channel. It gives genuine literature-scholar feels
I wish I had come across such a channel when I was a literature student. You produce very high quality content and provide people with a great roadmap, thank you. It also would be great if you shared a written list of the books mentioned in the video.
So glad I found this video in my recommendations, lately I have been collecting so many books to read some in here were repeats, but there were a lot of ones I still haven't heard about. Classical literature is so fascinating!! Can't believe I slept on it for so long- well I have been reading some classics like the Bible 😂 here and there so maybe I did not neglect reading them entirely, but only now do I understand this big historical context and the differences between all the eras. I enjoyed reading egzistentialism philosophy by Simone, now I am reading Homeric texts.
This channel gives great joy.
also fun fact from a Greek student that LOVES literature probably Homer wasn't just a man it was a team of poets. What we know for sure is that Homer was a nickname. And IF you are going to read "his" work you should know that he uses elements from the time he lived in and not the time in the poems. Also if you ever hear the rumor that Aristotle was a sexist it is an oxymoron lie. You would know it from the way he presents women in his plays, for instance Eleni , who is clearly smarter than her man even though she acts as if she is not .
I really hope deeply that you read these and also you MUST read more recent Greek literature .You should look up Alki Zei
So if this was 1983, what are ya'll reading at Harvard these days?
I major in CS but I just love the way you talk. Super relaxing and interesting.
Last part of my research there are two literary techniques used often in poetry similes and metaphor. Father of American poetry is Walt Whitman. Types of poetry are narrative, lyric , dramatic. First American poet is Anne Bradstreet, she was also pioneering. Most famous American poets Emily Dickinson, Robert frost , Sylvia Plath, Langston Hughes. Themes of American poetry justice ,war , racism , cultural identity. All of us know Harvard University is one of most prestigious universities in the world. As I read there several poet studied at Harvard University such as Henry brook Adams , Charles Ashbery , Stephen Burt , Rafael campo , Thomas gold Appleton , oni Buchan . I hope I learn a lot from your knowledge. Merry Christmas happy new year. Iam so sorry to be little long but reading and writing both are great ways to improve our English as none native speakers. Good luck to you your dearest ones .
eliot,aiken, cummings, frost, etc
@@siamcharm7904I mentioned some of famous poets sir .
2:35 - "It's difficult to underestimate the importance of the Bible ... " - WHAT??!! NO! It's difficult to OVERESTIMATE the importance, etc. - unless you mean that the Bible is completely insignificant. It's difficult to overestimate the importance of using common phrases correctly.
@hilariousname6826 It would be difficult for anyone who has read the Bible to underestimate its importance for English literature.
For anyone feeling overwhelmed at tackling this lot, you might look at the work of Ronald Blythe, particularly his short essays for the publication the Church Times (collected in 'Words from Wormingford'). The essays are arranged around the church year/the seasons, and although always with a Christian message, it's done very lightly and with vast, fascinating reference to a host of writers in the English language. It will send you off to look up many of the writers he quotes.
Blythe was also a fascinating man. He died about a year ago, but knew many interesting people in his life. He inherited the ancient yeoman's house he lived in for most of his adult life from his friend the artist John Nash (and because of John was one of our last links with the Bloomsbury Group). He worked with composer Benjamin Britten for the Aldeburgh music festival, and through Britten got to know EM Forster. He even, although a gay man, had a brief relationship with Patricia Highsmith.
@clairenoon4070 This sounds lovely. Just ordered a copy.
I’m a big book nerd and try to read purposefully, thank you for this list. When I went to college, I wish we read books like this. Love thinking deeply and critically. Glad I was able to find you on TH-cam.
Why does “Dead Poets Society” come to my mind? 😄 Congratulations for the beautiful room in the background.
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No man is friendless who has God and the companionship of good books.
It’s awesome that you’re sharing this, thank you so much!!!!!
This is a gem. So pleased I found it. Thank you.
Gem
Extremely useful video. Thank you from Ann ❤
Shakespeare used the Geneva translation because the KJV wasn't translated 'til 1611
Hmm interesting… but I think you guys over at Harvard read some new “German classics” these days… what a joke of an ‘education’!
I've found your channel tonight and I loved it.
This viddeo is great! I can fully understand you!
I'll be watching more video to keep practicing my English skills :)
Best from Brazil.
Amen on the Authorized Version - unsurpassed beauty of the written word (and it’s true)
Sure ……
You’re so Henry Winters coded
Well done young lad, and I commend you for the 'Dark Academy' aesthetic...up to and including the brownish grey sweater.
Anyone interested in reading my poetry book i wrote ?
Hmmm ok!
On Shakespeare, you, yourself, will enjoy the following three: Carolyn Spurgeon's Shakespeare's Imagery and What It Tells Us, Miriam Joseph's Shakespeare's Use of the Arts of Language, and Wolfang Clement's Shakespeare's Imagery. Of course, there are so many (and more every year) but I cannot not mention them any time we're recommending Shakespeare studies. I hope you do well in the field you choose, but be careful as there are a lot of landmines in front of a graduate in English. Also, I hope you had a chance to study with Paul Cantor, one of my favorites, who almost always has something nice to say about Harold Bloom.
Spurgeon's and Sister Joseph's books are timeless! I will have to track down Clement's. Thanks. Let's keep this list going.
For Clement, Berlin, c. 1938 - about the same time Dr. Spurgeon was publishing at Oxford.
When you’re done making content with it PLEASE upload a scanned pdf of the document
On occasion I read poetry, but the hardest - and longest - poem I have ever read was THE RING AND THE BOOK by Robert Browning. It is Shakesperean in scope - deep and grandiose beyond belief - and twice the length of Milton's PARADISE LOST. It had better be on this list somewhere.
BEST POETRY BOOK OF 2024
Rain, rain, go away
And come back when
I’m in a cafe
Then you can pour, pour, pour
While I ponder my future
And the Art of War
I’ll have no umbrella and no place to go
So please miss barista, another cup of jo
Crackling of a fire place and some nice acoustic tunes
It could only be better, if you were in the same room
Stuck in a trap
That’s where our cell is
Looking outside
Wondering where help is
But we don’t see
How deep our well is
It goes from Heaven
To down where Hell is
We got each other
We kings, we Elvis
Using your community
That’s where wealth is
But people be greedy
Thinking with their pelvis
Hoarding their talent
Acting monetarily selfish
Just help me get mine
And we’ll all eat shellfish
But deny me again
See what color the belt is
If I’m a fire
You’re the heat
If I’m a song
You’re the beat
If I’m a dessert
You’re the sweet
And if I get lost
You’re the street
That gets me back
To where I want to be
I could live 100 lives
And without you
None
Complete
How do I describe it?
I choose you over pie, fries
And other good food
I got a sweet tooth
Just for you
Late night cravings
And right before lunch
Even after Thanksgiving
I still eat you by the bunch
My gluttony for you
Won’t turn off like a faucet
So my tombstone will read
It was death by chocolate
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This sounds like an excellent list. Please print it somewhere, if not on TH-cam. I tried to copy it out from the video, but too often I couldn't make out the authors' names, and the actual book covers weren't shown long enough to get the information.
I will do that shortly and add it for free to my Patreon at www.patreon.com/CloseReadingPoetry
I'll also add more to it than I could have in this short video. Thanks for watching, @Janemaskell4038
@@closereadingpoetry is this the entire list in the book or just selections chosen for poetry?
@@gjlgjl just a selection from the poetry. Not even the complete poetry list.
@@closereadingpoetry I would love a scan of the whole book to be honest, or the entire list transcribed.
Hello, Adam! Lovely video! Thanks for sharing with us!
Happy Holidays!
Cheers from Brazil!
Really excellent content. This has made me realize that I have neglected poetry. I’m going to use this video as a starting point. Thanks very much. Keep up the good work.
This made my day!
As for me, it is too hard to understand poems. I feel like that it would be easier to solve physics problems
I love physics and it’s my best subject. Honestly, the reason why I’m reading poetry is because I want to sharpen my “other side of the brain”. Don’t worry, it gets easier
Im watching this video now. Well put together. Thank You
is that outfit a requirement to be a snob reader? seems so cliché
As opposed to a t-shirt or hoodie? He looks very well put together while at the same time casual. I don't see the problem.
Could you please make a list of the best books to read fiction and nonfiction? I like poems, but I prefer detailed reading. Like Harverd list. Older to newer.
Could you also cover the Harvard list for English Literature Post-graduate course?
What a great channel. Thank you for the wonderful information. I am going to the library and look up some of these great pieces!
Me: Bearly memorizing some of the 26 letters.
He: Yep!
Any recommendations for non-English American literature?
Is the 1983 Harvard book still available? I'd love to have a copy.
No Rupi Kaur? That booklet is more of a tragedy than anything else. (jk) This was so interesting, if only I could find something similar for my personal studies in Spanish and Portuguese literature.
you should look up if there aren't any reading lists from prestigious universities from countries of your target language. University of sao paulo if you're studying brazilian portuguese for example. In spanish, there is UNAM (mexico), UBA (argentina) and some more that i can't quite remember, but ik they were from chile, perú and Colombia. I also don't know any universities from Portugal. I hope this was useful! I wouldn't dare to recommend authors though, those are very personal choices lol.
Surprised there’s nothing on Pindar Victory Odes
As a mathematician I find this extremely interesting! Very knowledgeable.
it dont add up, so, whatever. you have a nice day!.
Very interesting and extremely valuable... however... Wot no Oresteia? Oedipus Rex? Plato?
All included in the list but not in my video!
I haven't been this excited for a YT video in years
What an amazing discovery your channel such treasure and delight! Thank you
Ur Adam and I’m Steve because why are you so gorgeous
Judeochristian "mithology" 🤔
I mean to point to a certain genre of literature, not to be dismissive. Mythology doesn't necessarily mean fiction, and there are such things as "true myths," or at least myths that contain historical and cultural truths.
Robinson Barbara Thomas Jose Rodriguez Maria
How do you storyboard a video project like this?
This is amazing , thanks a lot !!! I would love to see you collaborating with Ruby Granger :)
i love vids like this, in an hour i learned more than i could in years of school!!!!!
Ignoring Gary Snyder and Jim Harrison is a big mistake.
Adam, have you ever read Brazilian literature?
this video was beautiful and so insightful!! thank you for sharing. i do have a quandary though. i’ve always wondered about educational lists like this. whether it be for literature or any other kind of subject. humans will keep making things and expanding upon ideas and influences from before their time for hundreds upon thousands of years and there will reach a point in the future where humans at that time will not possibly be able to read, analyze, and study everything that has been canonized as imperative to our culture. so my question is this: where is the threshold in human history/the future where we don’t expect humans to know everything influential that has come before them?
Hmm. That’s a difficult but important question. I may think differently in a few years, but here’s my opinion.
Perhaps the threshold is always “now” and goes as far back as the earliest literature - that is, written literature. I think of literary history in terms of traditions rather than canons. As literary values shift, poets of different eras value different poets of the past. According to the neoclassical values of the 18th century, metaphysical poetry was considered gimmicky and artless. The 18th-c readers, on the whole, preferred the values of classical literature. By the Romantic standards of the 19th c, neoclassical poetry of the 18thc was regarded as artificial and passionless. The Romantics preferred Shakespeare and metaphysical poetry for their imaginative energy and extravagance. By early 20th-c tastes, the Romantics were considered naïve and sentimental. Many valued order and realistic representation and turned again to Pope, Dryden, and the classics.
Literary tastes change. Poets who were neglected by one age are praised in another; poets who were popular in their lifetimes are forgotten by the future. Some figures like Homer have always been admired; true. But Homer was often admired for different reasons in different periods. The same is true for Shakespeare, whose idolization by readers began in the late eighteenth century. He was never popular in his own time as he is today. But one reason why Homer and Shakespeare will always be “canonical” is because of their enduring presence in the poetry that came after them and in the amount of literature they inspired into being.
This Harvard 1983 list seems to choose works which have been most enduringly valued, the most influential to other poets and traditions. I can’t possibly keep up with contemporary poetry, for example, so I don’t try. Even if one excludes contemporary poets, the list of poets who are both neglected and important are so great that no one will ever be able to read, analyze, or study them properly.
Excellent! Yes! Instant subscribe on recommend! More please!
Well within 3 minutes forty eight seconds
Oh my god, how did I not find this earlier?
Hi Adam! I’m glad I ran across this!
Why do they call it "English Literature" if many of those works were not written in English?
Would love your close readings of O'Hara, Snyder, Olson, McClure, Ginsberg, di Prima, Carlos Williams, Whalen, Rexroth, etc. Counting vocals is easy.
I wish that copy of Bewoulf had a key to the old text.
Interesting video.
Thank you for the suggestions like
Reading *Iliad and Odysseus* . I enjoyed watching the French 1979s cartoon _Ulysses 31_
Also
*Contemporary Poetry added to music* (even modern *rap music*) is impressive
What do you/ TH-camrs think of:
Little prince? Or Alice in wonderland? Or huckleberry finn?
Keep sharing
Here are my 3 favourite poems -
'Love In Their Little Veins Inspires' by Thomas Shadwell ( c.1642 - 1692 )
'The Blind Boy' by Colley Cibber ( 1671 - 1757 )
'Sonnet To England' by Alfred Austin ( 1835 - 1913 )
Hello! What a good way to practice english!!!!! You win a new suscriber. Hugs from Argentina.😊
What a great channel! Thank you very much for your efforts, selflessness and humility to share whatever knowledge you have in the field of English literatre with those who are interested. A great video as are all the other ones published before and after this one. It would be a great gesture to share with us the updated syllabi of such marvellous university as Harvard
omg ur the sorted guys doppleganger
Thanks man, great job
And not a drop of Pushkin
The Dead Poets Society vibe
What a gem of a TH-cam channel how this is the first time I've encountered it is strange